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Speaker 1: This is the Bloomberg Business of Sports show, where we

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Speaker 1: explore the big money issues in the world of sports.

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Speaker 1: I'm Scarlett Film and I'm Mike Lynch. Michael Barrow is

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Speaker 1: off today, He'll be back with us later this week.

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Speaker 1: Coming up today, the NFL scandal over John Gruden's emails

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Speaker 1: baseball because the stage is set for the World Series.

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Speaker 1: There's a shot to dancey, he sives to it, He's

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Speaker 1: got it, throws over. There's a new Janian. The National

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Speaker 1: League and a Bridge. They have won one National League

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Speaker 1: World Series. Lynchy, I gotta admit, it's been a while

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Speaker 1: since I watched uh the Houston Astros, and I know

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Speaker 1: they moved to Houston over the American League to make

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Speaker 1: it fifteen and fifteen. Uh. This is the fifth straight

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Speaker 1: third time they're in the World Series. And a lot

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Speaker 1: of people haven't seen them since their cheating scandal, which

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of concern about the ratings in this

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Speaker 1: such a thing as a bad World Series matchup. I mean,

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Speaker 1: game of baseball itself and the two participants in the

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Speaker 1: which has a broad reach across the United States because

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Speaker 1: of their all their games. Most of the games are

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Speaker 1: There won't be going head to head with football, so

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Speaker 1: you go ahead to have a college football that's a

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Speaker 1: tough task. And Sunday night Sunday Night football this week

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