Speaker 1: Welcome in What's Right with Nick Wright Episode three forty three,
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Speaker 1: we got as good of a postseason as one could
Speaker 1: have asked for, as compelling of a finals as one
Speaker 1: could have asked for. And shout out to America for
Speaker 1: reminding the really the Charlotte Tins on social media, the
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Speaker 1: the NBA Finals. If it's a game seven, people are
Speaker 1: gonna watch. Sixteen million people watched Game seven of the
Speaker 1: Finals on average, peaking near twenty million. I don't actually
Speaker 1: care that much about the rating stuff. I do care
Speaker 1: about some of the worst people on the internet being
Speaker 1: proven wrong. So I do enjoy that the highest rated
Speaker 1: Finals since twenty nineteen, the last pre COVID final. So
Speaker 1: great for the league, great for the thunder, tragic but
Speaker 1: in a somewhat sports heroic way for Tyrese Halliburton and
Speaker 1: the Indiana Pacers. We will get to all of that
Speaker 1: in just a moment. Also, Kevin Durant has been traded.
Speaker 1: The NBA Draft is tomorrow night. Programming. Note, we are
Speaker 1: going to be doing a live draft show during the
Speaker 1: at least the lottery portion of the NBA Draft. It
Speaker 1: will be somewhat on the prospects, more about with the
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Speaker 1: who have tell me he is quite funny. Okay, that's
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Speaker 1: see you. I like that shirt. You look great. The
Speaker 1: NBA season is over and the best team all year
Speaker 1: won the championship. Go right ahead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the thundered and up winning that game. It
Speaker 2: was It was a little weird, though weird game seven.
Speaker 2: Is this more about okay See winning or is this
Speaker 2: more about Halliburton getting getting injured?
Speaker 3: There so looked a certain type of way.
Speaker 1: What do you mean like in the beginning, in the beginning.
Speaker 1: But so here's why the Halliburton story will resonate for years.
Speaker 1: Halliburton will become the new go to name for a
Speaker 1: guy who plays through injury. And and this is and
Speaker 1: we'll get to this more when we talk about I
Speaker 1: do want to mostly talk about Okay See off the top,
Speaker 1: but there's what I will say about Halliburton. Quickly, risk
Speaker 1: means risk, and like if they're the if you are
Speaker 1: tightrope walking on a harness with a net beneath you,
Speaker 1: you're not tightrope walking. And for Tyrese Haliburton. One of
Speaker 1: the reasons what he did was so admirable from a
Speaker 1: sports perspective and from a team perspective was because this
Speaker 1: was possible and he now and I thought brew made
Speaker 1: a really good point, which is what it People are
Speaker 1: looking at it from what this injury could mean for
Speaker 1: the rest of his career, and Bru's point was what
Speaker 1: not playing in those games could have meant for him
Speaker 1: psychologically for the rest of his career could be a
Speaker 1: totally different type of career altering incident. And so Tyrese
Speaker 1: Haliburton took a major risk. We'll talk, and you know
Speaker 1: obviously paid the price for it. We will talk for right.
Speaker 1: It will always be an iconic image in a terrible way,
Speaker 1: but his name will be synonymous with putting it all
Speaker 1: on the line for your team for a chance at
Speaker 1: the ultimate glory. Where I do not necessarily agree with
Speaker 1: what it seems like demand's a you were I don't
Speaker 1: want to say implying but hinting at is just because
Speaker 1: the Pacers looked really good early and just because they
Speaker 1: were up one at halftime despite Haliburton's injury. I am
Speaker 1: not ready to say that that means oh, clearly, had
Speaker 1: he not gotten hurt, they would have won. Now it
Speaker 1: is clear had he not gotten hurt, they could have won.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, even with him hurt, they could
Speaker 1: have won. They were down, they were up one at halftime,
Speaker 1: and they were down four with three and a half
Speaker 1: minutes left in the third quarter. They had stayed attached.
Speaker 1: And then the reason that I'm going to say for
Speaker 1: the today, for the moment, not for the long term,
Speaker 1: the story is OKC winning is because OKC won the
Speaker 1: way they won all year, which is in a very
Speaker 1: similar but totally different way that the Warriors even pre KD.
Speaker 1: But certainly with KD you would feel like you were close.
Speaker 1: It would you might even be leading at halftime, and
Speaker 1: then you just knew there is going to be a
Speaker 1: moment in the third quarter where in ninety seconds the
Speaker 1: Warriors hit four threes, it's a twelve to two run,
Speaker 1: and the game has flipped. OKC all year long had
Speaker 1: an air of inevitability that they were going to do
Speaker 1: something similar with their defense, and that is exactly what
Speaker 1: they did from the end of the third quarter through
Speaker 1: a few minutes into the fourth quarter, when they turned
Speaker 1: a four point lead into a twenty one point lead
Speaker 1: thanks to a nineteen to two run. It might have
Speaker 1: been twenty one to four. Whatever it was, they outscored
Speaker 1: him by seventeen over seven minute stretch. Through defense, they
Speaker 1: had four steals and blocks. The Pacers were one of
Speaker 1: eleven from the field. OKC won that game through their defense.
Speaker 1: My favorite stat of game seven of the finals demonse.
Speaker 1: OKC shot forty percent, Indiana shot forty one percent. OKC
Speaker 1: made eleven threes. Indiana made eleven threes. OKC made twenty
Speaker 1: two free throws. Indiana made twenty two free throws. OKAC
Speaker 1: had thirteen rebounds, Indiana offensive rebounds. Indiana had twelve offensive rebounds.
Speaker 1: So how in the world, given the field goal percentage,
Speaker 1: threes made, free throws made, offensive rebounds being dead even
Speaker 1: was that game a twelve point margin. OKC took seventeen
Speaker 1: more shots than Indiana because they had fourteen fewer turnovers.
Speaker 1: It was the defense and their possession game that won
Speaker 1: them a championship, and that is also it. There were
Speaker 1: two through lines of okac's brilliance this year, Shay's consistent
Speaker 1: offensive performance and the team's overall relentlessness on defense, and
Speaker 1: that is why they won the championship. Go ahead, It
Speaker 1: seemed like you want to say something.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean, well, on the on the defense,
Speaker 2: go ahead. Do you think the teams will model their
Speaker 2: teams how OKAC has and kind of harp on a
Speaker 2: good defense.
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's easier said than done. I think
Speaker 1: everybody that knows the league knows you go through all
Speaker 1: NBA champions and it is a very, very very short
Speaker 1: list of teams that didn't have a great defense. By
Speaker 1: the way, Victor, I can hear you in at least
Speaker 1: in my ear piece in the in the control room
Speaker 1: that didn't So it's a very short list of teams
Speaker 1: that didn't have a great defense. And it's almost a
Speaker 1: non existent list of teams that didn't have a good
Speaker 1: defense now modeling, So it's one thing to prioritize defense,
Speaker 1: another thing to have those bodies and have you know,
Speaker 1: that personnel. So that part is I think easier said
Speaker 1: than done. Right, Exactly, what I do think is this
Speaker 1: OKC team is going to be the standard, not just
Speaker 1: because they won the championship, but in large part every
Speaker 1: team that thinks they are building a contender is going
Speaker 1: to ask themselves, how do we match up against this
Speaker 1: specific team, and by the way, that does happen all
Speaker 1: the time. It's happened with the last three champions. Specifically,
Speaker 1: when the Nuggets won, everyone's question was, Okay, we have
Speaker 1: to build our team as best as we possibly can,
Speaker 1: and then we also have to make sure if we
Speaker 1: face Nikola Jokic, what is our plan, like, what is
Speaker 1: our plan for him? Specifically? Last year the Celtics won,
Speaker 1: and the Knicks in the conference said, you know what,
Speaker 1: what if we just try to build a team to
Speaker 1: beat Boston, which they did, by the way, shout out
Speaker 1: to them. And now I think teams, particularly in the West,
Speaker 1: but are going to say what are we going to
Speaker 1: do to deal with Oklahoma City? And I do want
Speaker 1: to this is I think sometimes or some folks, I
Speaker 1: should say, might be hearing this and saying, Nick, you're
Speaker 1: paying all this respect to Okase. Now you picked the
Speaker 1: Lakers to win the conference, the Lakers to beat them
Speaker 1: in the conference finals. And I actually think now the
Speaker 1: Lakers were flawed for a bunch of different reasons, right,
Speaker 1: most notably you know, the lack of a center. And
Speaker 1: I think as good of a job as JJ did
Speaker 1: over the course of the year, rookie head coach in
Speaker 1: the playoffs, he had some issues, so maybe it wouldn't
Speaker 1: have mattered. But the reason the Lakers, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: actually were a tough ish matchup for Oklahoma City. I
Speaker 1: think you saw throughout these playoffs. And here's why Demant say,
Speaker 1: when the ball is going to be handled for forty
Speaker 1: eight minutes essentially by either Luca or Lebron, when those
Speaker 1: two guys are going to be pulling the trigger on
Speaker 1: your offense and your decision maker, you're just not going
Speaker 1: to have those twelve turnover halves that OKC forced on
Speaker 1: everyone else. Like you saw their guys on the perimeter,
Speaker 1: their Dort and Caruso and Wallace and all those guys.
Speaker 1: Their physicality, their strength, JDB, their length, bother everybody. Poor
Speaker 1: TJ McConnell was in hell once he had to play,
Speaker 1: you know, a full stretch. Haliburton was struggling really throughout
Speaker 1: the series. You saw what they did to Aunt. They
Speaker 1: made all these guys look like, what's wrong with them?
Speaker 1: Why aren't they being more aggressive? And just because of
Speaker 1: the size Luke and Lebron both being six' eight and the,
Speaker 1: strength it wasn't at The lakers were not going to
Speaker 1: have these repeated twenty plus turnover. Games and that Was
Speaker 1: okac's cheek. Code, now flipside might have been even without,
Speaker 1: that The lakers didn't have anyone who could Guard shay
Speaker 1: or you, know consistently Guard jadab Or chad or, whatever
Speaker 1: and they would have lost because of. That but it.
Speaker 1: Wasn't when you look back and you, Say okac just
Speaker 1: rolled through, everybody and at the end of the regular,
Speaker 1: season in games they seemed to take, seriously The lakers
Speaker 1: blew them out one and then we're in position to
Speaker 1: beat them. Another why was? That my answer is flatly
Speaker 1: because they weren't going, to you, know be able to
Speaker 1: be as piranha ish When luke And lebron are handling
Speaker 1: the decision making for the entirety of the. Game but didn't.
Speaker 1: Matter The lakers couldn't get Past minnesota the. Thunder, meanwhile
Speaker 1: very very unique postseason demons in that rounds one in
Speaker 1: rounds three FOR, okc no resistance, whatsoever and then rounds
Speaker 1: two in rounds, four lose game, one Lose game, three
Speaker 1: lose game, six face a game, seven and then kind
Speaker 1: of control the majority of that game. Seven all, RIGHT
Speaker 1: i know you have a bunch MORE okc, questions so
Speaker 1: let's let's roll through.
Speaker 2: Them do you think that they're in a position to
Speaker 2: keep winning or will this be more of like a
Speaker 2: one and done type of?
Speaker 3: Situation SO i, MEAN i go.
Speaker 2: AHEAD i WAS i was gonna lead into the other follow,
Speaker 2: up especially with do you think that they're gonna ref
Speaker 2: shade differently next?
Speaker 3: Year as far as the free, Throws, like how how that?
Speaker 3: Work do you? Think?
Speaker 1: NO i listen, NOW i Think shay will probably get
Speaker 1: an even friendlier. Whistle, okay now that you are a
Speaker 1: truly minted super duper, star like if he was getting
Speaker 1: a friendly whistle. Before?
Speaker 2: Braun, okay fair, Enough braun never got a friendly whistle
Speaker 2: to begin with?
Speaker 1: This, Correct, yeah like the and by the Like, yeah
Speaker 1: here's the. Thing the only super duper stars of my
Speaker 1: lifetime who haven't gotten a great whistle are the guys
Speaker 1: who refs think, ah it's a little Unfair, shaq like
Speaker 1: for Real, Shaq Broun, giannis the guys where it's, like
Speaker 1: well they can deal with the. Contact and those guys
Speaker 1: are not. Right and Again i'm not trying TO i
Speaker 1: Know lebron gets killed for what people call flopping when
Speaker 1: it's really like he if he it's hit on, this.
Speaker 3: He's not gonna hit it like he's, well.
Speaker 1: No he's he is going to at times once a
Speaker 1: foul's been, called or like make it seem like he got.
Speaker 1: Sniped but what he doesn't, do and What giannis doesn't,
Speaker 1: know what What shack didn't, do is oh there's, contact let
Speaker 1: me sell the contact and fall off. Balance it's not
Speaker 1: how they, play and it's not how they should play
Speaker 1: because they can play through. It but all the other.
Speaker 1: Soup once you're a super, superstar unless you are just this,
Speaker 1: overwhelming physically imposing, force you get a better. Whistle SO
Speaker 1: i don't. THINK i think the whistle at least stays
Speaker 1: the same For, shay if not gets. Better BUT i
Speaker 1: WHAT i will say is as far as the one
Speaker 1: and done trend dating back to twenty, nineteen not only
Speaker 1: has no one, repeated no one has made it past
Speaker 1: round two up to thus far in their title. Defense
Speaker 1: the only team demanz since twenty nineteen to at any
Speaker 1: point after winning the title even make another conference finals
Speaker 1: is The. LAKERS a couple years, ago everybody Thought denver
Speaker 1: was going to reel off a bunch everyone, thought including
Speaker 1: and here is the reason THAT i really would, say
Speaker 1: just pump the brakes a touch On. Okac long, term
Speaker 1: there were a lot of people demanse that right now
Speaker 1: today are Saying okac's gonna you, know this is the
Speaker 1: beginning of a dynasty that six weeks ago thought we
Speaker 1: were in the midst of a dynasty for a different.
Speaker 1: Team six weeks, ago they were, like, well, Listen boston
Speaker 1: is the team to. Beat boston is set. Up the
Speaker 1: only thing that's gonna Stop boston is, uh you, know
Speaker 1: the the newest de facto hard cap and Second apron
Speaker 1: and all. That and by the, WAY i didn't even
Speaker 1: tease off top of the. Show Obviously Drew holiday traded this.
Speaker 1: Morning we'll get to that. Shortly SO I i do
Speaker 1: THINK okac has real staying. Power they have, topitch you,
Speaker 1: know who was a lottery you, know maybe a top
Speaker 1: five caliber pick who hasn't played for them, yet who'll
Speaker 1: play for him next. Year they have all these draft.
Speaker 1: Assets they but they what prevents you from Repeating sometimes
Speaker 1: team gets. Old well that's not gonna. Happen, Okay, see
Speaker 1: they're incredibly. Young sometimes bad, luck bad, matchup certainly on the.
Speaker 1: Board you know WHAT i mean that that what happened
Speaker 1: To denver last year happens To. Oka see where it's,
Speaker 1: like all of a, sudden you just run into the
Speaker 1: wrong tea early in the playoffs and they clip. You
Speaker 1: Rudy gobert hits a turnaround twelve footer and all of a,
Speaker 1: sudden your season's. Over what happened To boston this, year
Speaker 1: sadly can get. You the, injuries you know WHAT i?
Speaker 1: Mean LIKE, okc while dealing with injuries in the regular,
Speaker 1: season had perfect health in the. Playoffs the other thing
Speaker 1: that can get you is and this is a Point
Speaker 1: wild's has been, making AND i think it's a smart.
Speaker 1: One ownership more than the. Players ownership relaxes because they got.
Speaker 1: One it's, like well we got, one so do you,
Speaker 1: know do we need to go deep into the? Tax
Speaker 1: do we need to do these? Things so all of
Speaker 1: those THINGS i think are in. Play and the other
Speaker 1: THING i would say is, this let's just look at
Speaker 1: The Western conference over the next five. Years if you
Speaker 1: THINK okac is about to go on a real dominant
Speaker 1: run and say win the conference three of the next five,
Speaker 1: years that's not even win the, title just win the
Speaker 1: conference three of the next five. Years so that means
Speaker 1: in the next five years just for finals, appearances there
Speaker 1: would only be too available For jokics through the rest
Speaker 1: of his, Prime luca in his entirety of his prime
Speaker 1: essentially with The, lakers Whatever wimby. Becomes This rockets team
Speaker 1: THAT i think is spectacular aunt With, Minnesota Stephen jimmy
Speaker 1: together like there is an element of there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of people left without a seat in the
Speaker 1: musical chairs of just trying to make a, finals much
Speaker 1: less win a. Championship so DO i think That thunder
Speaker 1: are built like to have the runway similar to The
Speaker 1: spurs With, duncan, who by the, Way presty was part
Speaker 1: of building that. Team we're from nine to two thousand and,
Speaker 1: seven that team won four. CHAMPIONSHIPS i do think they
Speaker 1: are built. SIMILARLY i also think we have to adjust
Speaker 1: our eyes for what dominance can be in THE. Nba
Speaker 1: somebody tweeted this demands and THEN i know you have
Speaker 1: a bunch of follow ups that we still need to get.
Speaker 1: To BUT i thought this was such a unique way
Speaker 1: to look at, it and it. Was this was actually
Speaker 1: being tweeted in the midst of like A Jordan lebron,
Speaker 1: argument but separate that part from, it and it's just
Speaker 1: kind of A i think interesting. Perspective and it was
Speaker 1: a very simplistic timeline of as time goes on in THE,
Speaker 1: nba the hurdle or the maximum championships possible gets lower and.
Speaker 1: Lower so the person's point was, this THE nba basically,
Speaker 1: starts what's the most you can? Win, WELL i don't.
Speaker 1: Know Russell celtics won, eleven so that's the you know
Speaker 1: WHAT i, mean there's eight teams for most of that
Speaker 1: the most you can win is basically all of. Them then,
Speaker 1: next you, know kind of era of iconic top ten
Speaker 1: with a bullet in the goat debate Players kareem And
Speaker 1: Michael kareem the seventies through the. Eighties michael the eighties
Speaker 1: through the, nineties what's the most you can? Win six?
Speaker 3: Each?
Speaker 1: Okay? Interesting then the next iconic Guys kobe And, duncan
Speaker 1: what's the most you can? Win they both won? Five
Speaker 1: and then the next iconic Guys lebron And steph what's
Speaker 1: the most you can? Win they both won? Four so
Speaker 1: is you, know so again it's it's probably a little too.
Speaker 1: Simplistic but the point being is For wimby in TODAY'S,
Speaker 1: nba is like the maximum going to be actually, three you,
Speaker 1: know like that's realistically possible to? Do or is it
Speaker 1: gonna be reset again or is it just going to For,
Speaker 1: Jokic Jannis, Tatum Shay, luca, who by the, way is
Speaker 1: the one man of that young top five that's you
Speaker 1: know without One ant as, well but and has also
Speaker 1: hasn't even been to a, finals AND i think people
Speaker 1: Think luke is better Than. Ant is it a race
Speaker 1: right now who can get two? First because that's what
Speaker 1: it feels like to. Me it feels like For, Joker Jannis,
Speaker 1: tatum who sadly is gonna have to miss the, Year
Speaker 1: shaye And, luca And luca's behind in that. Race, obviously
Speaker 1: it's who can get their second and kind of take
Speaker 1: control of. This all, right let's keep going with these follow. Ups.
Speaker 2: Uh was there a signature moment in these finals outside
Speaker 2: of or that Wasn't Ala burton's injury to?
Speaker 1: You, YES i think. SO i Think shay's performance at
Speaker 1: the end Of game four that was the fulcrum of the.
Speaker 1: Series Where indiana's up to, one they're up seven and
Speaker 1: uh and seven going into the fourth And shay's three
Speaker 1: to cut it to, one and then The jordan esque
Speaker 1: push off. JUMPER i, THOUGHT i thought that's THE i
Speaker 1: thought that was the swing moment of the. Series by the,
Speaker 1: WAY i was In miami for, that because that was
Speaker 1: That friday. Night first Things, first was In, miami AND
Speaker 1: i THE tv in my hotel room was all messed,
Speaker 1: up LIKE i could only like watch, movies like the
Speaker 1: actual channels wouldn't, work AND i didn't want to watch
Speaker 1: it on my. Computer SO i go down to the
Speaker 1: hotel bar Forgett For game four of The, FINALS i
Speaker 1: watched the first half in my room on my. Computer
Speaker 1: for the second, HALF i go down to the hotel.
Speaker 1: Bar there's two guys at the. Bar ONE tv is
Speaker 1: on sports that aren't the. Finals the OTHER tv is
Speaker 1: on a movie with, captions And i'm, like this stresses me,
Speaker 1: out even though.
Speaker 2: LIKE i go down there was a.
Speaker 1: Group of guys playing. Pool they had they didn't care at,
Speaker 1: All and SO i say to the, bartender this nice older,
Speaker 1: Lady i'm, like, hey can you put THE Nba finals?
Speaker 1: On she's, like, yeah of, Course so she changes THE
Speaker 1: tv that is sports on it the OTHER. Tv the,
Speaker 1: guy the guy at the bar is like intently watching
Speaker 1: this movie with, aptions and it's, like do you? Mind
Speaker 1: do you mind if we put the finals? On and
Speaker 1: he gave it like AN i GUESS.
Speaker 3: I i snapped on.
Speaker 1: IT i was, LIKE i just want to, leave BUT
Speaker 1: i didn't want to mis so. Whatever so they put
Speaker 1: the game the games, on and then the lady the
Speaker 1: bartender was. Great she was, LIKE i could put the sound.
Speaker 1: On would you like? That i'm, like, yes, please like
Speaker 1: put the sound. On and then the guy to my,
Speaker 1: right WHO i think was A canadian guy who's in ye,
Speaker 1: NOT i think he said he was in From. Canada
Speaker 1: he starts talking to. Me he's, like, oh what like
Speaker 1: and he's talking to me with he doesn't know, me
Speaker 1: which is totally. FINE i actually prefer, that but it
Speaker 1: was like what game is? It? Like How's it was,
Speaker 1: like he's not the.
Speaker 3: Situation yeah.
Speaker 1: Exactly he hasn't been paying, attention so totally yeah, Exactly
Speaker 1: and demand say WHEN i tell. You this guy asked
Speaker 1: ME i think four questions in a, row AND i
Speaker 1: answered all of. THEM i answered all of. Them NEVER
Speaker 1: i never looked at, him SO i So i'm watching the,
Speaker 1: game and he's he's right, here two seeds over asking me,
Speaker 1: questions And i'm, Like Tyrese, Halliburton uh, yeah he's kind of,
Speaker 1: yeah this big, questions like, buddy and he kept and
Speaker 1: by the, way the question not just about, basketball it's
Speaker 1: like where are you? From like this type of, stuff
Speaker 1: And i'm, Like, Oh i'm in From New york for.
Speaker 1: Work what type of work do you? DO i was, like,
Speaker 1: Oh i'm In i'm in SPORTS Tv, leo what do
Speaker 1: you do in SPORTS tv? Sales Because i'm not like,
Speaker 1: that which is, yeah it's a whole and, eventually and
Speaker 1: so that's WHERE i, was and SO i the.
Speaker 3: You watched the whole game, there he stayed the.
Speaker 1: It's watched the whole game, there and by the in that,
Speaker 1: game by the by the fourth, quarter the guys stopped playing,
Speaker 1: pool and all of a sudden there was a whole
Speaker 1: capal event of watching It's game four of the. Finals
Speaker 1: so that at least was the iconic moment for. Me all,
Speaker 1: right let's keep going with.
Speaker 2: These, so, yeah you are really a big check guy
Speaker 2: throughout the playoffs or you've never really been a big check?
Speaker 2: Guy did His game seven performance change your mind at.
Speaker 1: All, LISTEN i think that. CHET i think defensively he
Speaker 1: was awesome in that. GAME i think he's a valuable.
Speaker 1: PLAYER i think that he's Obviously i'm gonna Do king
Speaker 1: of The hill on first things first, TODAY i think
Speaker 1: we're doing like the top forty five players in the
Speaker 1: league or. Whatever he's obviously on. There BUT i. DON'T
Speaker 1: i when you, know people thought he maybe should go
Speaker 1: number one in this, draft he profiled as a potential future,
Speaker 1: superstar AND i. DON'T i don't see that for. Him
Speaker 1: that's all so. Like but, listen that defensive performance In
Speaker 1: game seven of the, finals and now being a champion
Speaker 1: at that, age he's minted forever in that. Regard BUT
Speaker 1: i you, KNOW i worry about his ability to stay,
Speaker 1: healthy AND i worry about how he can be pushed.
Speaker 1: Around all, Right, uh let's let's go To georgie's, question
Speaker 1: real Or georgie And.
Speaker 2: Alex, Yeah georgie, said Is Sam presty the best in his?
Speaker 3: Position? Uh in the past twenty?
Speaker 1: YEARS i think Pat riley's got to keep that claim
Speaker 1: right now as the best kind of team. Builder now
Speaker 1: you can say he had some built in advantages and
Speaker 1: it's ALL i get, That but in the past twenty
Speaker 1: years Pat, riley you know a little more than twenty years.
Speaker 1: Ago he drafts, weight he trades For. Shack they win a.
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Speaker 1: does he stay.
Speaker 3: Demonse what they got too good for the? Team, well,
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Speaker 1: Number what is?
Speaker 3: It?
Speaker 1: So and if You're. Presty is that a fun new?
Speaker 1: Challenge SO i think that that IS i think that
Speaker 1: that is A now then he would have you done
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Speaker 1: there's The there is a history of guys doing, it proving,
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Speaker 1: is a very unique thing to watch over the not
Speaker 1: the next few, months but over the next few. Years all,
Speaker 1: right let's Do alex's comment and then keep.
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Speaker 1: Audio all, Right, demante let's Talk.
Speaker 2: Shay so the season has, ENDED sga has gotten the
Speaker 2: scoring title of THE, mvp the title and FINALS. Mvp So,
Speaker 2: KAREEM mj And shack are the only folks that have done.
Speaker 3: That where does this PUT sga?
Speaker 2: Statistically would you say that he has a case of
Speaker 2: being the best ever or having the best?
Speaker 1: Season, sorry, yeah, NO i knew what you, meant the
Speaker 1: best season. Ever, no it's it's not to be, HONEST i.
Speaker 1: DON'T i don't think this is as far as individual
Speaker 1: seasons guys have. HAD i don't think this is one
Speaker 1: of the ten best individual SEASONS us any, player any
Speaker 1: single player has. HAD i think that that that stat
Speaker 1: that you just read gets warped a bit by the
Speaker 1: scoring title piece of. It so because the reason it
Speaker 1: is so kind of unique or difficult or hard to
Speaker 1: do everything you just listed was because typically the scoring
Speaker 1: title the guy who scores the most. Points is not
Speaker 1: on the best, team or you, know is not isn't
Speaker 1: his team's not the. Champ but there have been plenty
Speaker 1: of guys that have had unbelievable, SEASONS i, think better
Speaker 1: seasons THAN sga this year that just didn't win the scoring, title,
Speaker 1: Right SO i would argue That steph in twenty, fifteen
Speaker 1: even THOUGH i think he only averaged twenty four points a,
Speaker 1: game that was a more impressive individual season Than shay this.
Speaker 1: YEAR i think there have been a bunch of lebron,
Speaker 1: seasons notably the two championship seasons In, miami both of
Speaker 1: which he Won LEAGUE, mvp won The title One FINALS,
Speaker 1: mvp that were more impressive Than shae this. YEAR i
Speaker 1: think That joker two years ago had a better season
Speaker 1: Than shae this. Year and SO i now Again i'm
Speaker 1: not trying to like blow Out shay's, candle but the
Speaker 1: the scoring, TITLE, Mvp Title, FINALS, mvp you, know quad
Speaker 1: fecta and it only being done By kareem in seventy,
Speaker 1: One shack in either two thousand or two thousand and,
Speaker 1: One jordan four, times shout OUT mj AND sga is,
Speaker 1: noteworthy but maybe a little. Misleading when you talk about
Speaker 1: the most impressive seasons IN nba, history WHAT i will
Speaker 1: say is, THIS i do think best seasons start to
Speaker 1: finish by a guard IN nba. HISTORY i think Only
Speaker 1: Michael magic And steph have, definitively without a, doubt had
Speaker 1: better ones Than shay this. Year there's an argument For
Speaker 1: KOBY o. Nine there is an argument For isaiah eighty.
Speaker 1: Eight i'm, sorry eighty. Nine there is.
Speaker 3: An.
Speaker 1: Argument is there Anyone i'm leaving out WHEN i, SAY
Speaker 1: i mean there's Again Michael, Magic steph def there's an, argument, sorry,
Speaker 1: folks For koozy fifty? Seven there is look it?
Speaker 3: Up and.
Speaker 1: Is there any recent guard That i'm? Forgetting i'm at
Speaker 1: What i'm trying to. Do there is the the box
Speaker 1: that has to be. Checked is led your team to
Speaker 1: a championship as the, clear, uncut unquestioned best player team
Speaker 1: was awesome start to. Finish you put up great numbers
Speaker 1: on your. Own he's not a. Guard he's not A
Speaker 1: he's not a. Guard And tatum last year wasn't better
Speaker 1: Than shay this. YEAR i don't think you think.
Speaker 3: That.
Speaker 1: No the but the so that's the, thing that's why
Speaker 1: it's most of The guys who lead teams to championships
Speaker 1: are wings or bigs over the course OF nba, History
Speaker 1: they're not true. Guards So nash obviously never did. It
Speaker 1: kid never did. It the, argument here's the six things
Speaker 1: About Wade. No. SIX i think this year was definitively
Speaker 1: better Than Wade. No six Because Wade. No six was.
Speaker 3: He was.
Speaker 1: NOT i don't think he was Definitively maybe the was
Speaker 1: he definitively the best player on the heat in the
Speaker 1: regular season that. Year that's the QUESTION i. Have i'm
Speaker 1: gonna and maybe he. Was shack had been the best
Speaker 1: player of the year before that. Year He, yeah D
Speaker 1: wade was. TWENTY i just looked it up D. Wade it's, weird,
Speaker 1: though D wade was twenty seven a game And shaq
Speaker 1: was just. Twenty but ALL Nba shaq was first team
Speaker 1: in D wade a second. Team so who were the
Speaker 1: guards for ALL? Nba, Oh kobe And Nash. Okay so,
Speaker 1: no this was better than D wade oh? Six like,
Speaker 1: so but the only guys who Again steph, fifteen and
Speaker 1: people can argue with me about. Stuff they're, like he
Speaker 1: didn't even win FINALS. Mvp what he did with That
Speaker 1: warriors team was so incredibly. Unique steph, Fifteen JORDAN a
Speaker 1: handful of, Times MAGIC a handful of times are the
Speaker 1: Only guard years THAT i can say are hands down
Speaker 1: better than This shay. Year KOBE o nine you can,
Speaker 1: argue And Bob cousey nineteen fifty seven you can argue
Speaker 1: were better than This shay year and any Other guard
Speaker 1: year INCLUDE i guess you can argue Sixty, wade but
Speaker 1: it's tough when one guy Wins LEAGUE mvp and the
Speaker 1: other guy is second Team ALL, nba it's hard to
Speaker 1: Argue wade had a better year that. Year and so that,
Speaker 1: that to me is where it ranks kind of. Historically
Speaker 1: uh and so so, four go, ahead yea, Four let's
Speaker 1: go to the The What max said?
Speaker 2: Here, yeah he said IF sga wins FINALS, mvp he
Speaker 2: should be ranked higher all the time Than.
Speaker 3: Yannis his career is almost. Over it's downhill for him from.
Speaker 1: Here so that was a comment from our Previous.
Speaker 3: Uh good looks. FAMILIAR i think that's.
Speaker 1: So first of, All giannis is, thirty so a career almost,
Speaker 1: OVER i think is? Bananas four more good, years?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: FO i Mean Yannis shae turns twenty seven in two.
Speaker 1: Weeks jannie is, thirty So shay obviously is younger than.
Speaker 1: Yannest but it's not A it's Not steph Versus shae age,
Speaker 1: wise much Less lebron Versus shaye age. Wise SO i
Speaker 1: think that's. Crazy if what you're saying is you Think
Speaker 1: shae ultimately will finish higher Than janice in the all time,
Speaker 1: RANKINGS I i suppose that's. Possible if what you're saying
Speaker 1: Is shae already is Above giannie in the all times
Speaker 1: rank time, RANKINGS i would, say you don't know what
Speaker 1: the hell you're talking. About that's not even. Close, okay
Speaker 1: well he's, wrong it's.
Speaker 3: Definitely that's.
Speaker 1: Fine you can say. That but people say a lot of.
Speaker 1: Things it's not even it's not even the, debate and
Speaker 1: it's not even. Close, uh and it's not even something
Speaker 1: to be, honest like it's worth. What so you Think
Speaker 1: shae right now this moment is the fifteenth player IN nba,
Speaker 1: History like give me a, Break like that's the that's just.
Speaker 1: Stupid but now if you think they're about to reel
Speaker 1: off a bunch and that he's going to keep this
Speaker 1: level up and three straight First Team All NBA's and
Speaker 1: three straight years scoring thirty plus and three straight years
Speaker 1: being in THE mvp conversation, fine LIKE i, Can I'm
Speaker 1: i'm fine with. That but the rest of it.
Speaker 3: Is, WAIT i, mean go. Ahead did you Say luke
Speaker 3: was top? Twenty he, said that?
Speaker 1: Is he said, Again so the. PRODUCERS i need the
Speaker 1: producers to do a better job of figuring out when
Speaker 1: one of those tangents makes, sense or when we're forty
Speaker 1: five minutes into the show and we're on the second.
Speaker 1: Topic but WHEN i did My top fifty players of
Speaker 1: the last fifty, YEARS i put as a placeholder at
Speaker 1: Twenty luca for the same reason THAT i had THAT
Speaker 1: i thought when the original list came, out they Put
Speaker 1: shack in despite all he had done was make and
Speaker 1: lose a finals up to that, point because they knew
Speaker 1: he's clearly going to be a top twenty, player top
Speaker 1: fifty player of all, time so let's put him in.
Speaker 1: THERE i then went back a year later and years
Speaker 1: ago and, Said i'm GLAD i Put luca there BECAUSE
Speaker 1: i don't have to reorder the list to just replace
Speaker 1: him With, joker who had earned that actual spot of
Speaker 1: at the time right around. Twentieth now he has moved. Up, so,
Speaker 1: yes all of those things did. Happen does that have
Speaker 1: anything at all in any possible world relation to If
Speaker 1: Shay Gilges alexander is better Than? Yannis it does, Not
Speaker 1: and it's, uh it's a louted again to be, clear
Speaker 1: if you Think shay's better Than yannis right, NOW i
Speaker 1: actually don't think. THAT i think the best players in
Speaker 1: the world Go joker, One jannis, Two shay, Three luca.
Speaker 1: FOUR i think that's the fair ranking of, it With
Speaker 1: tatum being off the board due to The. Achilles but
Speaker 1: to say Yannestly luca's had Or shay's had a better
Speaker 1: career Than jannis is is an. Absurdity all, Right let's Talk.
Speaker 3: Caliburton Tyree's haliburton try to play through that.
Speaker 2: Injury obviously Towards, achilles you committed him on first things
Speaker 2: first or playing through that is his injury in game
Speaker 2: seven the single biggest story of the finals or the playoffs, Included.
Speaker 1: NO i don't think. So the story has to be the.
Speaker 1: Champion but the most memorable piece of this is his.
Speaker 1: Injury and SO i said almost all of this ON,
Speaker 1: tv BUT i want to reiterate it. Here it's two.
Speaker 1: Things one is you, KNOW i am not going to
Speaker 1: run from or pretend. That After game, SIX i didn't
Speaker 1: have real, questions SO i definitely hold on that that didn't.
Speaker 1: HAPPEN i. Did at no point DID i call him.
Speaker 2: Saw, no you didn't get but you were, like if
Speaker 2: you're if you're moving around like you you got to play.
Speaker 1: Well AND i WHAT i said was he didn't look.
Speaker 1: Hurt that it seemed like like it. WAS i said
Speaker 1: that for a guy to have a calf strain and
Speaker 1: supposed to be out a month or a few, weeks
Speaker 1: which is what the reporting was right to injure it
Speaker 1: and then play after the injury and game in game
Speaker 1: five played twenty seven minutes after the, injury and then
Speaker 1: in game six was. AWESOME i, said, like is unlike
Speaker 1: any calf Strain i've ever. Seen. NOW i actually was
Speaker 1: watching game seven with some ACTIVE nba, players and when it,
Speaker 1: happened everybody all reacted the. Same BUT i just, SAID
Speaker 1: i was, like HOW i was, like if it was
Speaker 1: that close to, tearing how did he move like? That
Speaker 1: in game? Six and what one player in particular said
Speaker 1: to me was said two things THAT i thought were.
Speaker 1: Fascinating he, said in our, league the calf strains the
Speaker 1: new torn mcl a scary precursor of a potential devastating.
Speaker 1: Injury and the other thing they said was the calf,
Speaker 1: strain it's not it's not like a hamstring where it
Speaker 1: be when it, happens you just simply can't stay as, well, right, right,
Speaker 1: Right but it's it's that he's like with a hamstring
Speaker 1: or a, groin you can see that impact it has
Speaker 1: because of HOW nba players, move they can't move as.
Speaker 1: Well they're like with a calf you can move a
Speaker 1: lot of times like, okay and you won't see. It
Speaker 1: but the only way to get it to heal it
Speaker 1: is to stay off. It, Right he, was, like it
Speaker 1: has if you get a calf, strain it's gotta be
Speaker 1: WHAT i was he told, me was three or four
Speaker 1: weeks of, nothing of just flatly staying off it or
Speaker 1: else you risk. That and SO i. LISTEN i didn't know.
Speaker 1: That and so WHEN i Saw hallie moving around like
Speaker 1: he was in game, six like the timeline of My
Speaker 1: haliburton takes where game FIVE i In demon's disagreed with
Speaker 1: me on. IT i didn't really cut him a lot
Speaker 1: of slack for a zero field goal zero for six
Speaker 1: performance because he was playing and in game six he
Speaker 1: was so fluid and so. GOOD i, thought, okay like
Speaker 1: he's you, know dodge the bullet. Here of course he's
Speaker 1: gonna play game. Seven of course he was gonna play game.
Speaker 1: Six and then in game seven minutes and he tears his.
Speaker 1: Achilles so all that, happened, right and people can judge
Speaker 1: it however they, want like that's. Fair is? Fair the
Speaker 1: here is my updated if you will opinion that maybe
Speaker 1: people will judge this as. Well it's good that he.
Speaker 1: Played he was supposed to, play he wanted to, play
Speaker 1: and he took a risk that he was supposed to.
Speaker 1: Take when you and people were, like well it cost.
Speaker 1: Them it cost him and them all of next. Year
Speaker 1: if the goal of team sports is to win a,
Speaker 1: championship games six and seven of THESE Nba, Finals demons
Speaker 1: had more championship equity attached to him the next season
Speaker 1: in its entirety for The Indiana, pacers like when you
Speaker 1: are that, close like those games are worth more in
Speaker 1: your chance to win a, championship then the entirety of
Speaker 1: next season they just are and the goal your, mindset
Speaker 1: and also just for your, teams like for The. Pacers
Speaker 1: the What halliburton's performance In game six and even just
Speaker 1: the five minutes Of game seven added more to The
Speaker 1: pacers championship probability than him having a full ALL nba
Speaker 1: season next, year because even if that, happens like you
Speaker 1: still have to get through the whole tournament and get,
Speaker 1: there and so they were. There so the only and
Speaker 1: QUALIFIER i think that one would put on it Is,
Speaker 1: yes that's all. True the goal of team sports to
Speaker 1: win a. Championship with the goal of anyone in what
Speaker 1: they do for a living is to make a living
Speaker 1: for them and their. Family so If Tyrese haliburton were
Speaker 1: in the final year of a rookie contract and hadn't
Speaker 1: been you, know re, signed then you do have to
Speaker 1: do some personal math on what this means for me
Speaker 1: and the PEOPLE i care about and all of. That
Speaker 1: but when you Are Tyrese haliburton and you are in
Speaker 1: the first year of a five, year two hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty million dollar contract and you can play and play
Speaker 1: well through the injury while risking, catastrophe which is what,
Speaker 1: happened playing is the right. Thing he made the right.
Speaker 1: Call it went terribly for, him but he made the right.
Speaker 1: Call and by the, WAY i said this ON tv
Speaker 1: yesterday and then he today or last night tweeted this,
Speaker 1: well tweeted a, lot but one of the things he
Speaker 1: wrote is the, Following i'll just read you the whole.
Speaker 4: Thing.
Speaker 1: Man don't know how to explain it other than. Shock
Speaker 1: words cannot express the pain of this. Letdown the frustration is.
Speaker 1: Unfathomable i've worked my whole life to get to this,
Speaker 1: moment and this is how it. Ends makes no. Sense
Speaker 1: your heart breaks like for real now That i've gotten the.
Speaker 1: SURGERY i wish you could count the number of times
Speaker 1: people will tell Me i'm going to quote come back.
Speaker 1: Stronger what a? Cliche. Lol this shit. Sucks my foot
Speaker 1: feels like dead, weight Fam but what's hurting, MOST i
Speaker 1: think is my. Mind feel Like i'm. Rambling BUT i
Speaker 1: know this is Something i'll look back on When i'm
Speaker 1: through this as Something i'm PROUD i fought. Through it
Speaker 1: feels good to let this shit out without y'all seeing
Speaker 1: the kid ugly cry. At i've already learned That god
Speaker 1: never gives us more than we can. HANDLE i know
Speaker 1: all come out better on the other side of, this
Speaker 1: a better man and a better, player and this is
Speaker 1: the part THAT i speaks to WHAT i was, saying and,
Speaker 1: honestly right now Torn achilles and, ALL i don't regret.
Speaker 1: IT i do it again and again after that to
Speaker 1: fight for this city and my brothers for the chance
Speaker 1: to do something. Special and he goes on from there
Speaker 1: and everybody like people can check it out On. Twitter that's,
Speaker 1: right that's. Right and the POINT i made at the
Speaker 1: top of the show That brew made yesterday THAT i
Speaker 1: think was worth revisiting IS i always go back to
Speaker 1: that quote and it's. Guy it's from the guy who
Speaker 1: Wrote The. Road never under who wrote The. Road the
Speaker 1: road author Uh cormack, McCarthy and the quote, is, uh
Speaker 1: never underestimate the awful luck that your bad luck saved you.
Speaker 1: From and that HAS I that to me is like
Speaker 1: a very from like a mental wellbeing, standpoint a very
Speaker 1: useful quote THAT i and for me as a, PARENT
Speaker 1: I i it has helped me a. Ton the only
Speaker 1: really tough instance in my life Since i've started really
Speaker 1: kind of leaning on that kind of mind frame that
Speaker 1: that didn't help at all with was last year when
Speaker 1: our friend. Passed because there's no there's no like silver
Speaker 1: lining to that there's not, like oh, well because it's
Speaker 1: the sudden death of a, friend is you, know it's
Speaker 1: as rough as it. Gets BUT i had some you,
Speaker 1: know anything bad that's happened to a loved, One i've,
Speaker 1: Thought i've tried to use that as a silver lining
Speaker 1: or bad that's happened to. Me and WHEN i When
Speaker 1: i'm bringing up With, halliburn is this the the the
Speaker 1: road not taken For halliburton is don't play keep the
Speaker 1: achilles intact and for the rest of your, career wonder
Speaker 1: what if and did you let your teammates? Down did
Speaker 1: you let the city? Down did you was that your
Speaker 1: what would you have gotten through it without getting? Hurt
Speaker 1: what did you leave your championship on the? Board and
Speaker 1: WHEN i, say never under estimate the awful luck your
Speaker 1: bad luck saved you. From would that demonse have changed
Speaker 1: him fundamentally as a, player a guy whose rep for
Speaker 1: this postseason was the most cold blooded assassin at the
Speaker 1: end of? Games would that decision tree have altered? Him
Speaker 1: and while his achilles would have been, intact would have
Speaker 1: changed him? Forever? Maybe? Absolutely maybe? SO i SO i
Speaker 1: think that he clearly made the right, decision even though
Speaker 1: it was a tragic decision and we can. Listen remind
Speaker 1: me BECAUSE i want to get to The katie and
Speaker 1: The drew holiday. Stuff remind me For thursday's, show we
Speaker 1: need to discuss The Eastern conference next, year now that
Speaker 1: you have so many of these teams just removed from,
Speaker 1: contention and we need to discuss why The achilles injury
Speaker 1: has become what it. Is so we'll do that On
Speaker 1: thursday show real quick before we get To durant And Drew.
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Speaker 3: Years is that? Correct thirteen?
Speaker 2: Thirteen, sorry third team The, rockets even they brought your
Speaker 2: strategy the landam that you pitched on your, SHOW i.
Speaker 1: Mean my exact. Trade just just be clear everybody who's
Speaker 1: throwing out do they have to Include Jabari? Smith do
Speaker 1: they have to Include? Tarise and the trade THAT i
Speaker 1: put out On First Things first that was roundly mocked
Speaker 1: Was Jalen, Green Dylan brooks And phoenix's twenty twenty seven
Speaker 1: first going back To. Phoenix the trade that just happened
Speaker 1: Was Jalen, Green Dylan brooks And phoenix's twenty twenty five
Speaker 1: first going back To phoenix plus some second. Rounders it
Speaker 1: was the exact. Trade and for the, record the trade
Speaker 1: THAT i put out there for The timberwolves to offer Was,
Speaker 1: Gobert deevincenzo And dillingham For Kevin. Durant what was reported
Speaker 1: today was the trade The timberwolves offered Was Gobart Deevincenzo
Speaker 1: dillingham and one first round pick For. DURANT i, Listen
Speaker 1: i'm not trying To i'm not trying to infringe On
Speaker 1: Bill simmons' territory of The picasso of the trade. Machine
Speaker 1: but you, know some are saying the torch has been.
Speaker 1: Passed some are saying it like you just go go
Speaker 1: and check the archives of what the actual teams were
Speaker 1: offering and compare them to all the TRADES i came
Speaker 1: up with on first things, first and see what other
Speaker 1: people were describing on their, platforms and just you, know
Speaker 1: let history be the, judge all, right but go, Ahead
Speaker 1: sorry about.
Speaker 3: That since it's.
Speaker 2: Injured in twenty, nineteen he's won a grand total of
Speaker 2: two playoff. Series do you think The rockets does sound
Speaker 2: like you think The rockets are real? Contender or do
Speaker 2: you think they'll end up like previous teams that he's
Speaker 2: ended up winning, on Like nets of The.
Speaker 1: Suns so, listen it's different, situations right The. Nets he
Speaker 1: was unbelievable in twenty twenty one postseason with The, nets
Speaker 1: unbelievable lost a historic series To jannisianis goes on to
Speaker 1: win the. Title since, then thing's gone, right and The
Speaker 1: suns never were going to be a. Contender it was
Speaker 1: a terribly built. Team it was him And booker And
Speaker 1: beale never made. Sense and, Listen katie is, Older he's
Speaker 1: not the defender he once, was and his injuries concerns are.
Speaker 1: Real with that, Said, DEMONSE i think, that, UH i
Speaker 1: think that right, now this, Moment i'd pick The rockets
Speaker 1: to win The. West now that might, change most notably
Speaker 1: if The lakers are able to handle their center. Situation
Speaker 1: but your starting five is going to Be fred Van,
Speaker 1: Vliet i'm In, Thompson Kevin, Durant Jabari, smith Al pernshinghun
Speaker 1: off the. Bench you are going to Have, Terror Steven,
Speaker 1: adams who we Saw adams And shingoon play really well
Speaker 1: in that two big, Lineup Cam, whitmore And Reed, shepherd
Speaker 1: who was a top five pick last. Year that is
Speaker 1: a sniper from three and That udoka just didn't play
Speaker 1: because he couldn't defend and was a. Rookie so now
Speaker 1: you go from a team that didn't have shot making
Speaker 1: that Has kevin Freaking durant and Potentially Read shepherd getting.
Speaker 1: Minutes they are, deep they are well, Coached they are great.
Speaker 1: Defensively Jalen green was an abomination in the. Playoffs wait
Speaker 1: and Now Kevin durant steps in for.
Speaker 2: Him there was a. Trend it Was. HALLIBURTON i CAN'T i.
Speaker 2: REMEMBER i forget the other. Guy BUT i, mean what
Speaker 2: if what If Jalen green turns out to be a,
Speaker 2: star like you, know if he just needed a little
Speaker 2: bit of a little bit of a trackway and he
Speaker 2: just ends up BEING i, Mean, katie what do you
Speaker 2: say thirty six years?
Speaker 1: Old he's thirty. SEVEN i am not A Jalen, green
Speaker 1: believe and so THE i.
Speaker 3: Am oh it WAS.
Speaker 2: Sga it Was Halli burdon AND. Sga those are the
Speaker 2: two players because they traded him for old.
Speaker 3: Stars As Paul, GEORGE i, think.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, YEAH i got. You. Yeah SO I i
Speaker 1: Think Jalen green is a bit of an empty calories.
Speaker 1: Guy he's a decent, shooter not a great. Shooter from
Speaker 1: threes thirty five percent last, year thirty four percent for his,
Speaker 1: Career he's not that. Efficient outside of his, Threes he's
Speaker 1: forty two percent last year and the year before and
Speaker 1: the year before. That AND i don't love when my
Speaker 1: young players aren't showing market. Improvement he year, Two Jalen
Speaker 1: green twenty two a, game year, three twenty a, game year,
Speaker 1: four twenty one a. Game SO i AND i certainly
Speaker 1: don't see What phoenix is. Like phoenix is just like
Speaker 1: they have one hundred yards and nothing, else but they
Speaker 1: don't know what they're. Doing that's. Fine it is a
Speaker 1: short term bet for, sure, demanse but it's a short
Speaker 1: term bet THAT i think could net them a. Finals
Speaker 1: now For, Durant, durant his last six years In Oklahoma
Speaker 1: city made four conference finals and ONE nba. Finals his
Speaker 1: three years In Golden state obviously made all three conference,
Speaker 1: finals made all THREE nba. Finals he then leaves there
Speaker 1: and as you, mentioned has won two series total and
Speaker 1: not been out around. TWO i would love to See
Speaker 1: Kevin durant with one more deep playoff. RUN i would
Speaker 1: love to See durant remind people how grat he still
Speaker 1: is because he is.
Speaker 2: Man AND i love that he went to The, rockets
Speaker 2: the team that The Golden you, know The rockets couldn't
Speaker 2: get Over Golden.
Speaker 3: State katie's, Like i'm good and help you.
Speaker 1: Guys, well and here's the other. Thing The rockets couldn't
Speaker 1: get Over Golden, state and who are The rockets trying
Speaker 1: to get over Now Oklahoma? City katie's old, Team and
Speaker 1: so there is some nice kind of storylines. THERE i
Speaker 1: think it's a perfect. Fit and they didn't give up too.
Speaker 1: Much they kept their, depth they kept their. FLEXIBILITY i
Speaker 1: think oddly they actually still if he were to come
Speaker 1: available mid, season might have the ability to still trade
Speaker 1: For giannis and.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 1: THAT i don't think that's off the. Board the who
Speaker 1: were you, saying trade for your honest The Rocket. Rockets,
Speaker 1: yeah let ME i can try to do this on
Speaker 1: the fly real, quick and then we're gonna have to move.
Speaker 1: On BUT i think we can make the salaries work
Speaker 1: because you so let me turn this. Off fred Van
Speaker 1: vliet is forty four, Million giannis is fifty. Four so
Speaker 1: if you if if you were to, send for, Instance
Speaker 1: fred Van vliet Read, shepherd let me just see if
Speaker 1: that if that, Works so the SALARIES i Believe fred
Speaker 1: Van vliet And shepherd, work and Then houston would have
Speaker 1: to include all The phoenix picks that they have twenty
Speaker 1: twenty nine and twenty twenty, seven The brooklyn pick that
Speaker 1: they have in twenty Twenty, like you could make a,
Speaker 1: trade that, is if you are if you're The rockets
Speaker 1: where you are sending Out fred Van vliet Read shepherd
Speaker 1: and the following, picks you could send them the what
Speaker 1: picks would they probably? Want, yeah there we. Go you
Speaker 1: could send them If i'm reading this, Properly fred Van
Speaker 1: vliet Read shepherd And brooklyn's first in twenty twenty, Seven
Speaker 1: phoenix is first in twenty twenty, Seven dallas is first
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, Nine phoenix is first in twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: nine And houston's first their own first in Two those
Speaker 1: are valuable prime first round. Picks and you so my point,
Speaker 1: IS i don't think they're gonna do. That but the
Speaker 1: point is it's not like by going For durant they
Speaker 1: hunted on any chance At. Yiannis AND i think that's very.
Speaker 1: Useful all, Right, demonse let's Do drew Rut, oh tell
Speaker 1: me What danny said before we move. On.
Speaker 2: Uh danny, asked since you have ties To, houston are
Speaker 2: you gonna take A broussard like? Approach he, Claimed houston
Speaker 2: as a team you're rooting for the. Season definitely WILL
Speaker 2: i did.
Speaker 1: Not even think of, that but you're, Right brew does
Speaker 1: the WHOLE i lived, THERE i did. THIS i lived
Speaker 1: In houston for LONGER i bet Than bru lived In.
Speaker 1: INDIANAPOLIS i lived In houston for five. Years demonse considers
Speaker 1: himself From. Houston my daughter was born In. Houston LIKE,
Speaker 1: i maybe that's an INTERESTING.
Speaker 2: I definitely think you will end up rooting for them
Speaker 2: actively throughout the. SEASON i mean it'll Be lakers and
Speaker 2: then it'll Be.
Speaker 3: Rockets THE i like the.
Speaker 1: Idea all, right let's Do Drew.
Speaker 2: Holiday celtics traded Away Drew holliday For Anthony Anthrony. Simon
Speaker 2: sorry in two second. Rounders what do you think this
Speaker 2: signal is About boston and the?
Speaker 1: State, listen THE i think other people Like simons more
Speaker 1: THAN i. Do he is to me in a Similar
Speaker 1: jalen Green mold kind of an empty calories, player except
Speaker 1: he is a much BETTER i. THINK i think he's
Speaker 1: a much better. Shooter oh, no, no, NO i don't
Speaker 1: think he's a defender at. All but the let me
Speaker 1: check his three point. Percentage he's not. Much he's thirty
Speaker 1: eight percent for his. Career but that's a big difference
Speaker 1: thirty four to thirty. Eight but he shoots a ton of,
Speaker 1: them and you Know boston wants to shoot. Threes but
Speaker 1: this was a salary. Move The drew had three years
Speaker 1: left on his. Deal simons has one year left on his,
Speaker 1: deal who also makes five million dollars, more which actually
Speaker 1: costs The celtics forty million dollars in. Tax so. Older
Speaker 1: this was the first of, yeah and he's obviously much.
Speaker 1: OLDER i don't totally understand the move For, portland my,
Speaker 1: guess is part of the value they, see And drew
Speaker 1: is kind of Teaching scoot what his best version of
Speaker 1: himself can be and how to be a pro and all.
Speaker 1: That and for The, celtics we knew they were going
Speaker 1: to have to slowly but surely get off, salary and
Speaker 1: now they're doing. That AND i don't think they're done.
Speaker 1: NOW i don't Think Jalen brown is getting. TRADED i
Speaker 1: do think they are going to try to Move Chris
Speaker 1: STAPs and kind of treat next year as a bit
Speaker 1: of a reset. Year and you won't Miss Chris, STEPS
Speaker 1: i know you'll Miss.
Speaker 3: DREW i Like Chris STAPs a, lot AND i Like.
Speaker 2: Drew miss Him chris, said we should try to get
Speaker 2: whatever assets we possibly can and.
Speaker 1: Right and to reset the money and do all that
Speaker 1: in the year that's probably gonna be a lost. Year and,
Speaker 1: listen The holiday trade was an all time great trade For.
Speaker 1: Boston they don't win the championship last year if they
Speaker 1: don't Have Drew. Holliday in my, opinion he's a two
Speaker 1: times he's a two time. Champion he's a great. Player
Speaker 1: the only two time champions of the post kind Of
Speaker 1: Katie warriors are now contavious Called Will, Pope Alex cruso
Speaker 1: And Drew. Holliday how about? That isn't that unbelievable guys
Speaker 1: who were considered expendable by their initial teams and then
Speaker 1: went on and won another. CHAMPIONSHIP i don't think it's
Speaker 1: this is a groundbreaking, trade BUT i think it's What
Speaker 1: boston had to. Do AND i think Getting, simons who's
Speaker 1: young and cheaper and will bomb threes next, year you,
Speaker 1: know for a team and then they'll probably just let
Speaker 1: him walk for nothing to help reset their books is
Speaker 1: about as good as you could. Do All, RIGHT Nba
Speaker 1: draft real quick before we get some, Question but, listen.
Speaker 3: Question the draft is tomorrow very.
Speaker 2: Hasty it sounds like it's gonna Be Flag harper And,
Speaker 2: edgecomb but we'll see on that or are you excited
Speaker 2: to see?
Speaker 1: Tomorrow how far Does A's bailey? Drop? Is the draft
Speaker 1: starts at three with my Guy Darryl morey and The?
Speaker 1: Sixers and are they gonna Take? Edgecomb are they gonna
Speaker 1: consider including that third pick in a? Trade and on the?
Speaker 1: Draft we will be live on YouTube during the, draft
Speaker 1: kind of a second screen thing if you guys would
Speaker 1: potentially like to join. US a reminder for everybody to, like, rate,
Speaker 1: subscribe review all of, that and now let's do some
Speaker 1: listener questions To, monsey.
Speaker 2: Let's see a good game bro a YouTube collabing with
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Speaker 3: Teamers say, Less nick, h that's.
Speaker 1: A YouTube evidently that's a youtubeer of two hundred and fifty thousand. Followers,
Speaker 1: Interesting all, Right adam To adam to the potential list with,
Speaker 1: AGAIN i don't really know exactly How i'm gonna do,
Speaker 1: it But i'm gonna figure something. Out all, right let's, Go,
Speaker 1: yeah let's go through some.
Speaker 2: More diego, asked did you chase your losses On better
Speaker 2: The year by betting?
Speaker 1: On?
Speaker 3: Okay see game.
Speaker 1: SEVEN i did, not BUT i LUCKILY i was in
Speaker 1: a very very good not even a variant of. POKER
Speaker 1: i suppose game this weekend and it covered a lot
Speaker 1: of My vegas and better the year. Losses and in,
Speaker 1: FACT i probably should say just Because demands knows WHAT i,
Speaker 1: Won and IF i say it just covered a lot
Speaker 1: of the, losses then he might wonder how much did you?
Speaker 1: Lose it covered all the. Losses, now it doesn't put, me,
Speaker 1: like you, know way ahead over the line, month but
Speaker 1: it puts me comfortably. Ahead and so that was.
Speaker 3: Good? Uh all?
Speaker 2: Right Next scott, asked given how badly things have gone To,
Speaker 2: phoenix will THE nba create an ish be a, rule
Speaker 2: maybe trade restrictions and an owner and an owner's first full?
Speaker 1: Season, well, YEAH i MEAN I i said. It that's.
Speaker 1: FUNNY i said that on THE tv show a year
Speaker 1: ago THAT i thought there was potentially going to be
Speaker 1: some type of his legacy is going to be a,
Speaker 1: rule is going to be named after, Him Like Ted,
Speaker 1: steppian you have to, prevent you, know save owners from.
Speaker 1: Themselves all, right demon's A eric is giving us a
Speaker 1: rec league? Update you guys?
Speaker 2: Lost, YEAH i was hoping we.
Speaker 3: Could, yeah we we.
Speaker 2: Don't we lost in the First we lost in the
Speaker 2: first game of the. Playoffs it was one of the
Speaker 2: better days of this. Month but, yeah one of the
Speaker 2: BETTER i JUST i love you. Know it was, awesome
Speaker 2: the cardio and. Everything, uh, everybody we all need to
Speaker 2: go our separate ways and we need to come back
Speaker 2: after the next. Season it just seemed like these other
Speaker 2: teams have played together for so long and uh but,
Speaker 2: uh but all the games are, close like we're never
Speaker 2: getting blown.
Speaker 3: Out it was just like late.
Speaker 2: Game, SITUATION i think because at the most we had two.
Speaker 2: Subs so but, yeah we, uh we were out of the.
Speaker 2: Playoffs but we will see you In What's What's? Summer
Speaker 2: we'll see in fall eric and hopefully we're getting mixedy
Speaker 2: in it and we'll.
Speaker 3: Be there in the. Postseason but, okay all, right sounds.
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Speaker 1: at the bar In. Miami so that's. Interesting i'm curious
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Speaker 3: That all?
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