1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: I kind of feel like I had a hard time 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: picking like the analogy for this one because it fits 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,719 Speaker 1: in so many different ways in our world and even 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: in our childhood, whether we're talking sports, religion, politics, gang banging, 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: hip hop music, mainstream versus indie and underground. This thing 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: that we're all existing in in our politics right now. 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: That again, as the premise of this show is, it's 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: like you actually understand this more than you do. It 9 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: is because when the op is the op, that's just 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: the op. That's the opt. The you're gonna be the op. 11 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: They're gonna always be the op. Now'll never want to 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: be a part of that, and they do. But oftentimes, 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: if you were blessed enough to not have to move 14 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: a lot, you know, or or stay in a particular 15 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: side of town from for you know, the most part 16 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,599 Speaker 1: of your childhood, most likely the kid on the other 17 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: side of the gun, on the other side of the 18 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: you know, robbery or whatever the case may be, like 19 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 1: you kind of know them. Y'all was in the same 20 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: head Start program, y'all played the same little little league 21 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: baseball if he was from South Central, like you know, 22 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: we was looking at the same even if he was 23 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: across town. It was like, yeah, they're like Sunday like 24 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: little track meets, you know, all the little stuff that 25 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: they would do that after school, the summer camps, the 26 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: vacation Bible schools. You kind of know these kids, you 27 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. They made not to be the 28 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: ones from YO block, but you kind of know. And 29 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: then middle school happens and he recruited you. You join 30 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: your thing. I can say specifically, like I remember specifically 31 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: school ending in the summer coming back and I could 32 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: think of two particular dudes that were like all of 33 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: the sudden looked out in my mind. It was all 34 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: of a sudden, now we couldn't kick it no more. 35 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: And now he's trying to like he always got something 36 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: to say every time I walk around, you know, And 37 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: it took me a second to like really like, because 38 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: you know, we're kids, to really understand, like, man, when 39 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: did I become the opp And even though like when 40 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: nobody around, sometimes we walk over school together giggling, laughing, 41 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because like fam like we 42 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: grew up together. You know. Now I happened that since 43 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: I happened to move a lot by the time we 44 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: was finally settled. Is is around this this time of 45 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: my life, you know, so I was able to know 46 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: someone a little longer. You know, my story is like 47 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people's stories where your your time was 48 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: split between whether it was divorced parents or my grandmother 49 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: you know, essentially like watched me and my cousins for 50 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: a lot of our child So like there's kids that 51 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: I grew up with that were in my grandma's hood, 52 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: who I would see them weekends or whatever. Right, but 53 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, like there was this time where 54 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: it was like, Okay, things have actually changed. You know, 55 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: we are now at war no matter how we feel 56 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 1: about each other. Where I war, and sometimes that's a 57 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: cold war. Sometimes that's a peaceful war. Sometimes there are beautiful, 58 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: fleeting moments of agreement. Like I said, like when I 59 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: was walking home, you know, talking basketball or just cracking 60 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: jokes about like Ms Williams, you know what I mean, 61 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: in fifth grade, like just whatever it was. But when 62 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: lgs come around, everything changes. You know. I go to 63 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: my side, You go to your side, and that's just it. 64 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: You You you pick your heill you die on and 65 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: you just die on that hill. And the point I'm 66 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: making is even if it don't make sense, even if 67 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: you know the person on the other side of that 68 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. That's the ay. Even if it's actually detrimental 69 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: to all of us, don't matter. That's the OP. When 70 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: I got into hip hop, which was my kind of 71 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: exit out of this sort of you know, sort of 72 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: gang situation, is like you was either mainstream or underground. 73 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: You know when people talk Biggie Tupac, We was like 74 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: boot camping Wou Tang. We was like k her as 75 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: One Snoops our favorite rapper. We were like far side, 76 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: Common Souls a mischief. We were backpacking. We didn't listen 77 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: to the radio. You know what I'm saying. You weren't 78 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: allowed to. Like jay Z, you weren't allowed to even 79 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: if a song come on. He was just like, I 80 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: don't no, man, he's kind of spitting up. You know. 81 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: The lines were very clear. Jiggy rap, radio rap, commercial rap, 82 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: was like, you don't they're the ops. They're destroying hip hop. 83 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: He we talked about mass P, mass P and Puff 84 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: Daddy destroyed hip hop. That's that was. We're backpackers, you 85 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like you just close minded backpackers. 86 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: They always dips where at war to save hip hop 87 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: with our rapidi raps, you know, save it from the money, 88 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying the mainstreamers. I was a 89 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: true believer, you know what I'm saying. Then along comes 90 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: somebody like a Kanye West who was like, well, I 91 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: came from backpacker. I don't know, like he was his 92 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if you watched his his documentary, but 93 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: Rouckess records with like most and quality and Pharaoh maage 94 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: and just like these like spiders, like he was kind 95 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: of came from that, but he was also he was 96 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,119 Speaker 1: also Imphan's bleak. You know. Jay Z is also jiggy, 97 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like commercial rep like he 98 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: liked fashion, you know. So he was this first like 99 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: hybrid at the time that we had never seen, which 100 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: gives birth to somebody like a Kendrick Lamar who can 101 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: do uh. And now, like it's it's such a stupid 102 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: thing to talk about now because at least hip hop, 103 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: in my mind, has gotten over it. We all see 104 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: it all as beautiful. Unfortunately our politics have not. Let's 105 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,239 Speaker 1: talk about what it means to be in a culture 106 00:05:34,279 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: war hood politics. All right, that was a long intro 107 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:09,239 Speaker 1: for this, But politics, y'all, I want you to understand 108 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: some of the stuff that's like happening, especially again going 109 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: into this election season. These are things that like some 110 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: terms you're gonna hear that my desires that you really 111 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: understand what that is and you can draw your own conclusions. 112 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: I plan on for the most part, holding my opinions 113 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: about these things to myself unless I think that it's 114 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: like absolutely necessary to express them for the context of 115 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: the show. I've never wanted to develop a show that 116 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: is that is to kind of chew your food for 117 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: you and say, hey, this is what it tastes like, 118 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: but more like, let me give you the ingredients that 119 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: you cook your own meal. Because sometimes we may feel 120 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: like people are talking over our heads and I just 121 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: want again, I keep coming back to this, like nobody 122 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,119 Speaker 1: is talking over your head. You actually understand this stuff, 123 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: you know. So this is one of those episodes because like, okay, 124 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: make it makes sense. Republican Congressman Glenn Thompson, right, goes 125 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: to his son's gay marriage three days after voting against 126 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: federal protection of said gay marriage. Make it make sense? 127 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: Is there a cognitive dissonance there. Well maybe maybe it's 128 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: like I said, some people ain't true believers, they just 129 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: playing the game. Others are like, well, how like, how 130 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: does this work? Tell you how? Because we're in a 131 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: culture war. Culture wars, politicians will say stuff like the 132 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: soul of our nation is at stake, the single most 133 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: important issue of our time. You know, these grandiose statements 134 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: that are designed to be exaggerated. You know, they're they're 135 00:07:54,040 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: they're hyperbole, hyperbole. I love that word, hyperbole, hyperbolic, hyper believe. 136 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: I digress they are because they're they're they're trying to 137 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: get your attention. They you know, they want to get 138 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: you on edge. And being on edge, you know, ignites 139 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: a certain part of your brain that flight or flight 140 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: you're you're amygdala, you know, the part of your brain 141 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: that says, I have to make a decision right now. 142 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: You know, I have to feel this. I'm convincing you 143 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: that your life is in danger, your very futures in 144 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: that your children they in danger, you know, And who's 145 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: the danger? Them fools? The the OP is always coming 146 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 1: to get everything You've got, dao problem you feel, I'm saying, look, 147 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: try it like this. Basically, if you want to translate it. 148 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 1: It's very simple. We are at war for what the 149 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: culture ought to be. Now, let's do some history and 150 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: some animalogy about the term culture and where we got 151 00:08:53,400 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: culture war from. All right, okay, we're back now. Culture. 152 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: I honestly believe most of us don't even know what 153 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: that actually means. Like when you say, well, what is culture? 154 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: You know what it? What it? It's such a large question. 155 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: Now I feel like, you know, especially among like you know, 156 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: urban communities, we were like, yo, we did this for 157 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: the culture. Uh, it's the culture. You know, you gotta 158 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: wrap the culture. No, man, like you gotta do this 159 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: for the culture, Like, well, what do we mean by that? What? What? 160 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: Here's what's crazy? We we know what we mean. Yeah, 161 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like, you know exactly, we know what 162 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: we mean. But it's very you know, tricky to put 163 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: words to it. So this woman helped, y'all do Let's 164 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: put words to a culture at its very most simple 165 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: academic definition. It's too humans trying to figure out how 166 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 1: to survive. We are the one species on the planet, 167 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: you know, due to our large frontal lobes. I don't 168 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: know that aren't necessarily born with everything we need. I mean, 169 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: if you leave a baby in the woods right after 170 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: it was born, it dies. We we don't have all 171 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,719 Speaker 1: the faculties already. We don't have everything we need already. 172 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: You could look at I'm gonna give you a couple 173 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: of books on this one if you're ready to do 174 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: some reading. This is from his book called Sacred Canopy. 175 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: When I was writing my terraform book, also I got 176 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: telephone coffee, you know what, telephone cobrew dot com. But 177 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: when I was writing the book, this was some of 178 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: the source material I used for research. And it talks 179 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: about how culture is made, what is culture, how it's made, 180 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 1: and then how it makes us, you know, like deers, horses, 181 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: like other mammals, fish like whales. See what I'm saying, 182 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: Like a whale is born swimming, but he already know 183 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: how to swim. You know. You see horses and cows 184 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: and they give birth that baby walking in an hour, 185 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: like just within the hour, it's already walking. They got 186 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: everything you need you already in the pack. It already noticed. 187 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: Stay in the pack, you know what I'm saying. And 188 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: of course you got the motherly you know, fatherly instincts 189 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: that we see all across the animal kingdom. Whatever quote 190 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: unquote air quote culture they have is us imprinting our 191 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: experience on them. Won't know what they're doing. It just 192 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: looks like what we're doing humans. However, we had to 193 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: create language. We built, shelters, we built cities. Are familiar units, 194 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:03,719 Speaker 1: are family ties? Like for example, what is your mama's 195 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: brother to you? Your uncle? I guess why? I mean, 196 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: what that fool got to do with you? That's just 197 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: your mama's brother. Like what what do you care? What 198 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: about your mom's brother's children? Those are your cousins. Why 199 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: as far as sir, cousins is always trouble? You know 200 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, We didn't all we're all getting troven 201 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: day around. What difference does it make what they are 202 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: to you? Well, when we was traveling to African Savannah, 203 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: trying to like not get eaten by a tiger, the 204 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: thought was, I need to make sure that the people 205 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: around me are going to not give me a poisoned berry, 206 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: that you somehow care about who I am as a person. 207 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: That so you're you're developing safety when you have to 208 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: travel in pacts. I gotta understand that this track, this 209 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: pack is safe, and then I need to know that 210 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: when I meet another pack, there's a way to communicate 211 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: with them. That's the language I gotta be able to 212 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: communicate with this. This is just we're just trying to 213 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: survive here, you feel me. And then we create aided 214 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: art to express ourselves the motions that we have that 215 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: we can't necessarily put into words. And then if I 216 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: need to communicate across time and space, we developed language. 217 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: These are all ultimately culture, the collection of all this stuff, 218 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: the rules for which are rules of engagement are familiar 219 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: ties are our our our languages. They're all listen and 220 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: they don't exist in nature. We made them up like you, 221 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: like you, I can't stress us enough. Culture is made up. 222 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: It's all in our heads. The American culture, you know, 223 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: it didn't always exist. We made it up collectively us. Yeah, 224 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: nobody wrote ap wrote it down on a piece of paper, 225 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: but we That's how culture is made, right. And then 226 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: what's crazy about how culture works is what's this stuff 227 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: is made and enough time goes by, then it starts 228 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: making us. What do I mean by that? When I 229 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: gave you the example of you know, uncle and cousin, 230 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: the thought I'm sure, the thought never crossed your mind 231 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: that wait, there was. It wasn't always like that, Like, 232 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: that's just what it is. Were you're talking about, That's 233 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: just what it is. There's no way for you to 234 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: look at your uncle and not see him as your uncle, 235 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: because it's made us now, right, even if you've never 236 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: met him, You're like, well, that's my uncle. You ever 237 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: thought about the fact that, like, there are people with 238 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: no uncles and cousins because both their parents were only children. 239 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: Yet of course there are millions of people that do this, 240 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: but like, it's just a weird thought to me. But yeah, 241 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: or you form cousins from friends auntie's and uncles from 242 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: family friends. If you brown folks, half of your cousins 243 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: ain't your cousins, you stand, I'm saying that was your 244 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: mama's friends kids. Half of your aunties and uncles ain't 245 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: your aunties and uncles? There your family friends and they 246 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: or they just people you went to church with. Are 247 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: you following me? We made them up, you know what 248 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying? Like, yeah, And I dare I dare you 249 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: to run up on somebody to be like, that's not 250 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: your real cousin. You're like, oh, word. It's not my 251 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: real cousin. Okay, that's my cousin. It's just it is 252 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: what it is because we make them up, and then 253 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: they make us because we had to find a word 254 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: for that person. These this, these extended family members that 255 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: ain't really blood family, Well what else do I call them? 256 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: Except for family? Culture made us. Cultures also include an 257 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: origin story, who we are, why we understand who we are? 258 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: That's all culture. We made that up. Like I can't 259 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: stress us enough. The American origin story of our pure meritocracy, 260 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: that if you stand up for what's right, if you 261 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: work hard, you'll succeed. Now we all know that that 262 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: is a fairy tale, you know what I'm saying, Like 263 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: who already now? Who who's sitting right now listening to 264 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: this podcast at work, whether you in the office or 265 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: you're working from home, and it's somebody you got an 266 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: email right now who might be making more money than you, 267 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: that you know is dumb as a bag of rocks 268 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: that only got that job because they know somebody they 269 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: earned that. You're telling me, the person that show up 270 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: on your street, if you're from l A, the person 271 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: that show up on your street, the hard working toughest nails. 272 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: Mexican man. I'm just look, I'm not trying to be 273 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: y'all understand what I'm saying. That's just how the city work. 274 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: The person that comes cutting your grass, that's a Mexican man. 275 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: He working four times harder than you. But you you're 276 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: sitting down working from home. The it's a it's just 277 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: a story we told ourselves. You know what I'm saying. 278 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: It's not right or wrong. It's just a creation, myth. 279 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: We formed our identity by it. We have to believe that, 280 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: like our nose is better than anybody else's nose. That's 281 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: why when gas prices change, we think it's an American 282 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: president doing it. Like as you crazy gas prices, that's 283 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: a global commodity foods thinking. It's like it's an entire 284 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: planetary conspiracy to keep Trump out of office. You think 285 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: the whole planet care. It's because of what we tell 286 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: ourselves that's formed our identities. I know some old g's 287 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: my whole girl's dad like a triple O G. Right, 288 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: we man who's going somewhere? And he was like immediately 289 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: he was like, oh where you live now? And I 290 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, I'm over here. I live on 291 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: this street in the street and he names the hood 292 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: immediately he's like, oh, yeah, no, I don't go over 293 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:51,679 Speaker 1: there no more. And I'm like, bro, it's like hundreds 294 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: tens of thousands of other people here that don't care 295 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: at all about any of these politics, any of that, 296 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: like literalhood politics. They don't care. But that's like, that's 297 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 1: your world. When you're in that world, that's it shape 298 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: your whole identity. It's grocery stories. You don't go too 299 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: because you got enemies over there, like bet oh no, 300 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,399 Speaker 1: I got Opts over there. And I'm like, man, yo 301 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: Op is picking up their child from eighth grade right now, 302 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm trying to tell you right now, 303 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: like you're good. But that's your world. That's us in America. 304 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: We think everybody care, everybody watching, you know what what I'm saying, Like, 305 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: and people care in the sense that you are on 306 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: the planet. But like fam, we don't control the gas 307 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: prices Spain, like no, we you know what I'm saying. 308 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,719 Speaker 1: You can't even tell me nothing about their history, but 309 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: you expect when you go to Spain that they all 310 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: know our history. That's just because we loud, we make culture. 311 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: The culture make us. But the origin stories, you know 312 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, and most and what happens is like 313 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: if you don't, you don't understand the origin story or 314 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 1: how this stuff works. A lots on don't even notice 315 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: it's happening. He has his motif where he says, look, 316 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: if you were to ask a tropical fish like, yo, 317 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: what do you think of the cold waters of the 318 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: deep that fishes answer, if it could talk, would be like, uh, 319 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: what's water? Because you're just in it, you know, I'm saying, like, 320 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'll point at it. I'm just just 321 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: in it. So that is culture that makes sense. Now 322 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: culture war. Oh this is ah a motif that kind 323 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: of came from twenties thirties. You could say John Birch 324 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: society and then I think you know kinda got It's 325 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: coined its phrase from dudes like James Dobson, Chuck Coulson, 326 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: these like elder statesmen that are like really at towards 327 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: the end of their life. Now you know what I'm saying. 328 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: Like Chuck Coulson was involved in like Watergate. He was 329 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 1: one of the guys that kind of had to go 330 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: to jail. He took. He took the fall. You know 331 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, somebody had it. They needed blood. You know, 332 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 1: I'm saying somebody had to go. He kind of ended 333 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: up taking the fall. He went to prison. He started 334 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 1: this thing called prison Fellowship. You got somebody like James Dobson, 335 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: which is, you know, you come from like American evangelicalism, 336 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: that man walk on water. Uh. He started a thing 337 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 1: called Focus on the Family, you know, and it was 338 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: kind of became like a a hammer for that Western 339 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: evangelical zeal to get into politics. That's saying this sweeping 340 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: you know, lean towards liberalism and not American values is 341 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: destroying our families and the way that we raise our kids. 342 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: They believe that the pinnacle of how society stays well 343 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: is a healthy family, which is of course a marriage 344 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: between a man and a woman who's raising their children. Purity, culture, 345 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: all this stuff, like a lot of this stuff came from, 346 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: which means it would follow that the problem with the 347 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 1: black community is that there's not enough fathers. The fathers 348 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: aren't in the city. If the fathers were in place, 349 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: it's not the police, it's that the fathers aren't in place. 350 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: You following me, James Dobson, focus on the family. You 351 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, so and and and the premise 352 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 1: is we are at war for the soul of the nation, 353 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: and the war is waged with our children, you know, 354 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 1: so like and you could get you could you can 355 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: trace all these seeds back to like, you know, desegregating, 356 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 1: taking prayer out of school, like all this stuff, you know, abortion, 357 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: like all this stuff for them was mission drift to 358 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: say that, like, we need to fight to bring America 359 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: back to something. So if you're against that, you're the 360 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: app Flip it on its other end with more of 361 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: the sort of liberal leaning progressive movements, which are like, 362 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 1: are y'all crazy? We need to adapt and change and 363 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 1: get rid of these demons or we're never gonna go 364 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: forward right there, Like, look, I'm trying to exercise these demons, 365 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,479 Speaker 1: like these are things that like and anybody that speaks 366 00:21:55,480 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: to any ideal that feels to us regressive is the 367 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: op We all know that progressive you can't even talk to, like, 368 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: don't it just we can't even have a regular conversation 369 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: because like it's just all war. Nothing anyone else has 370 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: to say, even you who might agree with him makes 371 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: sense and can ever be repeatable. Nothing y'all saying makes sense. 372 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: And we are in the same culture at war with 373 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 1: each other for the soul of that is a culture war. Now, 374 00:22:44,480 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: how do you interpret your place in this? Coming up next? Yea, 375 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: all right, here's another book recommendation. This guy's name is 376 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: Michael Sandow. He's from I think it's Harvard. He wrote 377 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: a book called What Is Justice? I absolutely recommend this. 378 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: I think I've mentioned like pieces of this and informer episodes, 379 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 1: but like I want to give like a full thing 380 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: on it for you. He explains this idea of when 381 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: we talk about what is justice and what is just work, 382 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: oftentimes we find that there are, at least in America, 383 00:23:55,920 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: three different definitions of what we mean when we say justice. 384 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: Depending on what you mean by that will a lot 385 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: of times tell you where you are in this quote 386 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: unquote culture war. And then I'm gonna, I think at 387 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: the end of this episode, uh, blow up the whole 388 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: motif of like the war. This is one of episodes 389 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: I'm an actually tell you my opinion. So he would say, 390 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: there's three basic motifs here. If what you mean by 391 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 1: justice is the greatest amount of good for the most 392 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: amount of people, Right, what is the best thing we 393 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: can do for everyone, which may not be actually everyone, 394 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: but the but if it's the best we can do 395 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: for the most amount, then we've done the right thing. 396 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: So those things usually tend to be left leaning in 397 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: liberal universal health care, you know, free public education, free 398 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: college tuition, eliminating debt, because that's doing the best we 399 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: can do for the most of it. There are people 400 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: that can afford to these things, so if we could 401 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: provide ways for them to get to then it's the 402 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: greatest amount of good for every just you know, wealth redistribution, 403 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: like like spread the wealth around, like it shouldn't all 404 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: be sitting in one place, because now only a few 405 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: of us in our world are actually getting the things 406 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,959 Speaker 1: that we need. And how can society go forward? How 407 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 1: can culture be healthy if all the resources are focused 408 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: is only on a few people. And a lot of 409 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: times that you know, your perception is those few people 410 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: that got on the research, they ain't get them. Honestly, 411 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: they got them by stepping on the people that ain't 412 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: got the resources. Does that make sense? Like you didn't 413 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: get rich on your own again, meritocracy, you got rich 414 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: standing on the poor, So like that can't be this. 415 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: We we can't survive like this. So the greatest amount 416 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: of good for the most amount of people is one 417 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: one sort of motif. It's usually liberally, And a second 418 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 1: motif is justice is the ability and freedom to flourish 419 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: without any hindrances. Right, So it's like, just leave me alone. 420 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the right thing because I understand that 421 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: if I'm succeeding, if I'm doing what I got to do, 422 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: if I got all the tools I need to do 423 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: what I gotta do, and you got all the tools 424 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: you need to do what you gotta do, just leave 425 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,679 Speaker 1: us alone, and if it works, it works. If it fails, 426 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: it's my fault. But don't get in my way. Let 427 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: me make that decision, you know what I'm saying. Look, 428 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: if if it ain't no school for me, let me 429 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: figure out how to do it, and I'll make it succeed. 430 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: I don't need you all to do it. Like, look, 431 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: if I need to put more money into my local school, 432 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: I'll put my money. You don't make me put my 433 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: money in my school. I'll do it. Usually, now this 434 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: is your more libertarian approach, and to be honest, with 435 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: you libertarian? Is this idea of like, look, I got 436 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: sense it, don't it don't do me no good for 437 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: me to have a seven bedroom house on a block 438 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: when everybody else is starving. That just don't do me 439 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 1: no good. Like I'm of course I'm gonna like, Look, 440 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: my neighbor's kids is hungry. I'm a feed him, Like, 441 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: I don't need you to tell me this because you know, 442 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't have them disease written. You know why, 443 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: because that's gonna get my kids sick. So it just 444 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: makes sense. If we're out in the forest, you know 445 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. If I'm chopping wood you need what? 446 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: Of course I'm gonna give you wood, I like and 447 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: dove you need water, you'll give it to me, right, 448 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I just gave you wood. I need some water, 449 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 1: Like I don't understand, don't we both want to survive. 450 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: I don't everybody tell me that. I don't need a 451 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: government to tell me this. I don't need you to 452 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: take the wood from me, Like I got sense, And 453 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: if I fail, I failed. I've always said to that, Like, 454 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: if it wasn't for racism, I'd probably be a libertarian. 455 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: I'd be like, y'all leave me alone. I got sense, 456 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: I figure it out. But because racism, I can't trust 457 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 1: my neighbor to do the right thing. Like people like, 458 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: here's here's the The official misunderstanding of affirmative action is 459 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: this is people feel like in race called is people 460 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: feel like, Okay, you got in just because of the 461 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: color of your skin. And I'm like, are you serious 462 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: if a black man got into Yale University. I didn't 463 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: get into Yale. I'm black, I don't got the grades. 464 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: It ain't got nothing to do with It doesn't mean 465 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: that you're not capable. What it means is I don't 466 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: care how capable you are. They wasn't gonna let you in. 467 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: So what the government is coming in and saying it's like, yo, 468 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,479 Speaker 1: I'm compelling you because they would have never chose you 469 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: no matter how qualified you are. It don't mean you 470 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: not qualified. It means they was never gonna choose you, 471 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: whether you was qualified or not. That's how affermative action were. Now. 472 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: I remember our first time, like triving to through Memphis, Memphis, 473 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: Tennessee and really trying to understand like why y'all act 474 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: like this? And one of the os was like listening. 475 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. It's like he was like, Yo, my 476 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: dad worked at the electric company thirty years, never got 477 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: promoted the manager. Why he was like, because none of 478 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: them white boys would listen to him. They would never 479 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: accept no matter how much more skilled he was. They 480 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: would never take directions from a black man. He's like 481 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: in the and and it and the bosses was like, dog, 482 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: you're right, like you are more qualified. I just can't 483 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: make them listen to you. He explained other situations where 484 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: it's like, again, I don't qualify. I don't care how 485 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: qualified you are. We just don't promote black people. I'll 486 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: be like, Danny, don't you all want to get to 487 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: the money? They're like not like this, which is why 488 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: you needed laws against discrimination. I know, I got I 489 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: know the college I went to is because they had 490 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: race quotas. I get it. It would but listen, I 491 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: still applied. So they had the grades. You know what 492 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying. My cousin ain't go. He ain't got the grades. 493 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: So it's like, don't like, don't conflict this. But anyway 494 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: that that like freedom to flourish is usually the like 495 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: the libertarian approach. And then there's a third approach. That's um, 496 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: what things ought to be is the ideal. Now, this 497 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: is the stuff you hear Jordan Peterson and them say, 498 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: the ideal what things should be, That there is a right, 499 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: a right way for things to work, and it is 500 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: outside of us. It is fixed, and it is eternal. 501 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: And what we are to do, no matter what any 502 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: of us think, is to bend our will to what 503 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: is right. Yeah, and sometimes I may not like it, 504 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: but that's what that's what, that's what's right. This appeals 505 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 1: to the conservative and I mean clearly if you say 506 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: that the those that are staunchly religious, is because it's 507 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: appealing to this ideal of a divine rightness that is 508 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: outside of us, and it is our job, no matter 509 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: how we feel about something, to conform to that. And 510 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: this is why when you look at the culture wars, 511 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: we end as far as like things like gay marriage. 512 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: Right now we're really getting into the meats here, abortion, 513 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: gay marriage, trans rights. These people are gonna tell you, 514 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: well know, I'm just saying like they're gonna try to 515 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: come with the like libertarian approach where it's like, well no, 516 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: I'm just saying that, like I don't think government should 517 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: be involved in any of our relationship. No, it's because 518 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: that's not really the way you feel. You don't think 519 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: these things should exist in a perfect world. According to 520 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: this world, everybody's hetero because that's the way, according to you, 521 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: we were made, that's the way we ought to be. 522 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: Into them. It's like full dune, like I don't understand, 523 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,480 Speaker 1: look at our genitals, Like what are you talking about? 524 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:24,719 Speaker 1: Like this any sort of deviation from what is the norm? 525 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: You know, subtexts middle class white like if you don't succeed, 526 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: it's because you're the malady, You're the the the variance. 527 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: So there must be something wrong with you, because in 528 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: a proper society, you would be over there and we 529 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: would be. It just it just feeds so much naturally, 530 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: fitting perfectly with the racist white supremacists, homophobic for some reason, 531 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: it just fits so well because of their definition of 532 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: how things ought to be, and they feel like, well, 533 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: they're letting go of things too. It's like why I 534 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: wish everybody was wealthy. I wish I didn't have to 535 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 1: pay taxes. But you know, things fall apart. We live 536 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: in a fallen world. Some things go wrong, and yeah, 537 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: I mean, but look everybody's got to take You know, 538 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: this isn't a perfect world, but if it was, it 539 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: would look like this, which but what ends up happening 540 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: is now we're not even arguing like the merits of 541 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: the right, the argument the worldview. It's like it ends 542 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: up being where you're arguing my right for existence. You 543 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,719 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like it's not the only thing 544 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: I should have rights. You think I shouldn't exist, yo, 545 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: But since my non existence is not an option, you 546 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:00,239 Speaker 1: just try to minimize my presence in your world. Right. 547 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: But with that worldview again like putting yourself in their shoes, 548 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: they're like, look, I ain't make the rules, do you 549 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. I just like, I'm just it's 550 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: just this is just you know, when you try to 551 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: explain to somebody like sort of some of these these 552 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: these views that we're at, we're just like, I but 553 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: I don't look, man, if you don't have corn, plant corn, 554 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: I just why should I have to give you corn 555 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: that I plan it if you ain't go outside and 556 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: plant your oh corn. This is just how it works. 557 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: That's why they begets so far it But now you 558 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: got stuff like trans people in community and rights. That's 559 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: just a brain breaker. It's not that y'all shouldn't have rights, 560 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 1: is that y'all shouldn't exist. This shouldn't be so in 561 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: their mind, it's like, well, if I can make the 562 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: culture like form itself to what things ought to be 563 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: in this world. Again, because you're talking about what it 564 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: ought to be. If you're a boy and you don't 565 00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: think you're a boy, something wrong with your thoughts according 566 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: to them, because that's not how things ought to be. 567 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 1: But here's the problem. What they do exist. You you're 568 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: trying to end gay marriage, it's not because you don't 569 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,479 Speaker 1: believe in marriage. Equality is not because you don't believe 570 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 1: in marriage. It's because you believe in marriage. Only like this, 571 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: it's actually homophobic. Now again if we're talking culture will 572 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: now getting no way, let me finish this. So that 573 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: is the third way of what you mean by justice. 574 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: Justice is what things ought to be right, And you 575 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: might find yourself somewhere in some of these places. Now, 576 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: what a culture war does is says that anybody in 577 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: these other motifs don't get it. So that if like 578 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: like let youse, let use the gay marriage thing as 579 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: an example, right, if in this election cycle. The conservative 580 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,240 Speaker 1: movement is gonna take this on because they they've floating 581 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: on this Roe v. Wade victory. Right, And then Clarence 582 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,399 Speaker 1: Thomas was like, well, let's look at this stuff, let's 583 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: look at birth control, let's look at this right, Whereas 584 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,919 Speaker 1: the majority of like the populace is like, well, I mean, 585 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: if we're if we're talking conservative populace like following me, 586 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: they're like, well, we think it's weird. Weren't reel with 587 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: it religiously, But like, I mean, what what do I care? Like, 588 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: get the taxes, you know what I'm saying, It's fine 589 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: if this is an institution that you believe. Again, a 590 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: loving family is like the cornerstone of our society, and 591 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,720 Speaker 1: why would you take it away from people that agree 592 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: with you, Like you have these LGBTQ couples that are like, yeah, 593 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: you're right, a healthy family. I'm in love with this person. 594 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: I want to solidify it, pledge my love, and I 595 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: want to bring some children into this place. There's a 596 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 1: lot of people, well there's a lot of kids out 597 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: there ain't got families. We agree, but we can't because 598 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: you're the eyes. It took me a long time to 599 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: get to this part of this pot. I hope y'all 600 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: stuck through me. But like, this is where I was saying, 601 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: But what if the makes sense what they're kind of 602 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: saying the same thing. This is the perfect example of that, right, 603 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 1: Or let's go back to universal healthcare. You know you're like, 604 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 1: well it sounds like socialism. Well, I mean like maybe, 605 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 1: but you know, if you think that this is just 606 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: like a black brown like a minority issue, It's like 607 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: man talked to that toughest nail, you know, sawmill logging. 608 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: He ain't got no insurance, can't afford no healthcare. That 609 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: company showl ain't giving him nothing. Y'a don't see all 610 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: them commercials about Mezzo Theaoma from working in them cold mines. Bro, 611 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 1: you think your company care about you? Don't You wouldn't 612 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: you like, don't you think? Don't you think it'd be 613 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,760 Speaker 1: kind of cool? It's like, you ain't have to rely 614 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: on this company that don't care about you anyway for 615 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,839 Speaker 1: your safety. It's crazy to me to have to rely 616 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: on somebody that I know don't care about me for 617 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: my security. That's ridiculous to me. I don't trust you. 618 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: You don't trust me? Why the hell would I trust 619 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: you for the health of my children? Now I need 620 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: to talk to somebody else. And then somebody else's argument 621 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: might be like, woll, why would I trust the government 622 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,280 Speaker 1: for you for the health of my children? My argument 623 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:42,399 Speaker 1: would be because the government needs you, that company don't 624 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: need you. The problem is I also agree with them 625 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 1: by saying, well, what government program work? Well that's what 626 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: Look you see how the options making sense to each other. 627 00:37:54,719 --> 00:38:20,800 Speaker 1: But I can't because you're the eye culture awards. Now. Lastly, 628 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: as you'll go into these voting boosts, as you'll think 629 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:30,280 Speaker 1: about where you want to go next, I would suggest 630 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 1: to you to not let yourself. I don't care where 631 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,040 Speaker 1: you fall on the spectrum, not let yourself fall into 632 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: this motif. Let me tell you why, because these people 633 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: are talking as if culture is something separate from us, 634 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 1: like as it's its own entity that we're fighting to save. 635 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: When culture is us, We made it. It's not separate 636 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,760 Speaker 1: from us. We are it. If you're trying to save culture, 637 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: I can't consider half of you my enemy because you're 638 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 1: making it and the fact that we're fighting is why 639 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: our cultures. Wait, is you know what I'm saying now, 640 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: I'm not saying stop fighting. What I'm saying is fight 641 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: for the right things. You get in there, you do 642 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 1: your homework of your local elections, you put the right 643 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,600 Speaker 1: people in office, you know what I'm saying, and you 644 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 1: apply to pressure on them. And of course this is 645 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: like Pie in the Sky talking. I'm just trying to 646 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: tell you, man, don't let these listen again. Don't get 647 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: into this motif where the op is always the op, 648 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 1: because I don't know if any of us, like mainstream media, 649 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 1: like you got a point now, I know some things 650 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,240 Speaker 1: are non negotiable, like my right to exist. You feel 651 00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 1: me like, that's not nothing. I'm willing to be and don't. 652 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 1: But if I drop a disk track on Trump, you 653 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, don't be like well Biden and 654 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I know, yeah, what is Cupcake like? Now? 655 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 1: I'm cool. I'm cool on on old Brandon. You know 656 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That boy is beige Saint a Biden. 657 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:02,359 Speaker 1: Stand Come on, fan, don't fall into the motif because 658 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 1: culture not separate from us. Culture is us. So if 659 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: you had war with culture, Loki, you at war with yourself. 660 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: Little politics. 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