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Speaker 1: start to finish. Welcome back to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas and

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Speaker 1: I'm joined by Roof Feld with some heroes, Mark Cesler

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Speaker 1: and Greg rose Athal. What's up boys, Hey, now I

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Speaker 1: don't need that sound clip coming back into my life. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: not looking for that unwelcome unwelcome the Yes, the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast, presented of course by Head and Shoulders.

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Speaker 1: This is our week eight recap episode, the flagship program

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Speaker 1: of the Around the NFL Podcast, And what a what

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Speaker 1: a week indeed, well, yeah, it's good week with a

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Speaker 1: couple of great games, including maybe the game of the

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Speaker 1: holding off the Shawn Wats. We needed that game this week,

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Speaker 1: we didn't. They had a little juice and we got

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Speaker 1: get to uh so every Sunday matchup, and then of

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Speaker 1: the Steelers and Lions. Um, you know, we're just holding

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Speaker 1: We're trying to hold things together here in the NFL

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Speaker 1: media universe. After one of the most stunning, stunning lunch

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Speaker 1: orders ever chili dogs ordered for the entire media group.

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Speaker 1: How does that even? How does that even happen? Who

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Speaker 1: entire newsroom would want that? And who and this is

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Speaker 1: want to be feeding a group chili dogs three hours

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Speaker 1: a good thing. Well, these these it's very nice of

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Speaker 1: But they typically come very clearly from an area restaurant

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Speaker 1: I thought you were talking about the absence of Chris Westling,

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Speaker 1: But now you're bringing it back to the Chili Dogs. Well,

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Speaker 1: the bigger See the Chili dog fiasco of a Sunday weekend.

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Speaker 1: the Sunday games. Starting Yes at the clink, tight formation,

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Speaker 1: Seattle trying to take the lead. Wilson roll into his right,

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Speaker 1: Greg skinn of your teeth. Congratulations ends the losing streak.

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Speaker 1: it is a major subplot. Sitting near Greg every Sunday,

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Speaker 1: today was bottled up. You gotta give Chicago a little

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Speaker 1: bit of credit. Keem Hicks is playing some steps from Trabinsky,

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Speaker 1: a nice deep shot down field, a big run at

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Speaker 1: the end. I mean, are they used They use him

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Speaker 1: in a in a different through the ball thirty two times.

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Speaker 1: They're not doing much with him, by the way. I

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Speaker 1: know he doesn't have a lot of stuff around it,

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Speaker 1: but there's a lot of big talk about him in

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Speaker 1: his first game. Uh, he's not really moving the ball

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Speaker 1: with him, is he? Well, I mean, this is a

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Speaker 1: team that just had to make a move for a

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Speaker 1: receiver this week and a receiver that right, if they're

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Speaker 1: in a weird spot, I did right very early, Like,

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Speaker 1: how are they going to respond to being down to

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Speaker 1: nothing or they going to kind of get out of

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Speaker 1: what they do? They didn't. They didn't really. They stayed

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Speaker 1: pretty run heavy, and I think we partly saw why. Ultimately,

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Speaker 1: he completed less than half of his passes. I think

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Speaker 1: he's and this is true of almost every rookie quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I think he's just a beat or too slow getting

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Speaker 1: the ball out of his hands, and and that's that's

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Speaker 1: something get better at as he plays. Yeah, I definitely

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Speaker 1: agree with that. However, there were some moments, um adam

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Speaker 1: or excuse me, Zach Miller went down with an unfortunate

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Speaker 1: leg injury that was really gruesome. But it was a

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Speaker 1: great ball, a great pass from Trawhisky to him that

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Speaker 1: would have been a touchdown if we could have the

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Speaker 1: game might have been little What it catches? Is this

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Speaker 1: a catch fiasco? Fiasco? Yeah? You know. Basically what happened

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Speaker 1: was Zach Miller catches the ball, he proceeds to dislocate

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Speaker 1: his knee, and then as he goes down to the ground,

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Speaker 1: feels the pain, realizes something's wrong with his leg, drops

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Speaker 1: the ball, and that right there is not complete the

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Speaker 1: process of the catch. And it was well after it

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Speaker 1: really felt like there was nothing that you saw I was.

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Speaker 1: I was really surprised, and I shouldn't be surprised anymore.

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Speaker 1: I was surprised by that one. Yeah, every week you

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Speaker 1: get one of these, let's move on shot, got all

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Speaker 1: the tight end, back goes both he fires and I

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Speaker 1: tells the moves tell the love song. He cucks buck

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Speaker 1: at the fifteen he was undering across the fields. He

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Speaker 1: cuts the pluck, he puck back, he carett moves W

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Speaker 1: I P on the call. There, Carson Wentz through two

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Speaker 1: touchdown passes h including that one to Jalen Mills of

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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles, glided past the San Francisco forty Niners

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Speaker 1: thirty three to ten. Shook. The Eagles were fully expected

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Speaker 1: to take care take care of business here, and that's

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Speaker 1: what they did. Yeah. Uh. And you know, here's the

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Speaker 1: weird thing about this game. And much like I've given

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Speaker 1: the Browns credit in the past, and I've given the

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Speaker 1: Bears some credit recently for their defense, the Niners defense

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Speaker 1: kept this a game until the last two minutes of

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Speaker 1: the first half, and everything just fell apart. I mean,

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Speaker 1: in a in a world when there was that pick six,

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Speaker 1: and then there was right before that, there was a

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Speaker 1: touchdown pass from Wentz to zach Ertz which completed like

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Speaker 1: a six or seven play drive, and it went from

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Speaker 1: being an Eagles three nothing lead in another rainy game

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Speaker 1: to suddenly being, you know, seventeen to nothing and the

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Speaker 1: Eagles in complete control. I mean they they brought the

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Speaker 1: house at Wentz with the Jason Peters industry and injury

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Speaker 1: and and they got seven hits, they got three sacks.

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Speaker 1: But it's it's c J. Beathard and Dan, that's your boy.

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Speaker 1: C J. Beat Hard. He week after week is taking

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Speaker 1: a beating and I don't understand he's taking a hard

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Speaker 1: beating big time. If you're Kyle Shanahan, you need to

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Speaker 1: get a wind. Yes, I did, Dan, and it was

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Speaker 1: mildly humorous. So why are you sticking? Are you going

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Speaker 1: to stick with that for the rest of the year.

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Speaker 1: This is not the quarterback of the future. This is

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Speaker 1: not the humor that I like. Well, I'm mox Cla Mark.

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Speaker 1: Dan's not gonna hear any of our points for the

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Speaker 1: rest of the shows are just going to be mildly, mildly,

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Speaker 1: mildly impossible a possible show to make a point. How

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Speaker 1: about die? There you go, That's what I was looking for.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing with Beth beat Hard. Is Brian Hoyers

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Speaker 1: worse than him still And it's not necessarily his fault.

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Speaker 1: When he's protected, he makes some good throws. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about the Niners here, We're not talking about

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Speaker 1: He's not a franchise quarterback. You're right, they need to

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Speaker 1: find somebody else in the future, but right now it's

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Speaker 1: gotta be Bethard over Hoyer. Their problem again, much like

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Speaker 1: the Redskins in the last game, is they can't protect him.

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Speaker 1: The thing. The thing though, with a rebuilding team that's

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Speaker 1: oh and eight with a new coach, you want to

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Speaker 1: be excited about identifying some players for the future, and

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Speaker 1: I don't see that at all with this forty Niners team.

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Speaker 1: I see their best running back as Carlos Heider is

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Speaker 1: not gonna be on the team. Uh you know they're

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Speaker 1: leading receivers today was a running back Mark Matt Brita,

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Speaker 1: who which was You got Trent Taylor and Garrett Selling

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Speaker 1: And these are guys are just here and they're not

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Speaker 1: gonna be If the forty Niners ever get good again

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Speaker 1: on offense, it's not gonna be with any of these guys.

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Speaker 1: So it's hard to get excited. Yeah, no, I feel

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Speaker 1: I think the one point maybe is that maybe Trent

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Speaker 1: Taylor could stick like your fourth or Fisher that kind

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Speaker 1: of thing. But Yeah, from especially on the this offense

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Speaker 1: mostly two thousand seventeen, you've identified your fourth or fifth

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Speaker 1: target on offense, nailed it, moving on, checks out, takes

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Speaker 1: the snap, drops back to pass, has a little bit

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Speaker 1: of time, steps up with the pocket bros for the

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Speaker 1: back of the ENDZ So for Rudolph, He's got it

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Speaker 1: high in the air and comes down two feet in.

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Speaker 1: It's a four yard touchdown pass to Kyle Rudolph KF

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Speaker 1: xcent with the call case Keenum throw two touchdown passes,

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Speaker 1: including that victory ensuring toss to Kyle Rudolph and Kai

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Speaker 1: for Bath Guys, Kai Guys gonna be Kai made four

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Speaker 1: field goals. The Vikings beat the Browns thirty three to

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Speaker 1: sixteen at Twickers. That's the final game that will be

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Speaker 1: held in Britain this year. We cannot We just couldn't

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Speaker 1: get him one couldn't get him a game. And we

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Speaker 1: were at sky him Bath. We got him Kai. Kai

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Speaker 1: is gonna be Kai. We were on Sky Sports with

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Speaker 1: Neil Reynolds earlier today, Greg and I and we promised

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Speaker 1: him any game they wanted next year. Yeah, better, he

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Speaker 1: requested Tom Brady, Carson Wentz and we've got the type

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Speaker 1: of polls, which is we're going to you certainly have

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Speaker 1: the power to make that happen. I mean, case Keenum

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Speaker 1: has played in I believe two thirds of the games

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Speaker 1: ever played at Twickenham Stadium. Half they got goose bumps. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: greg Um, this is your classic take care of business

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Speaker 1: game for the Vikings. But you know, the probs, they

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Speaker 1: made him earn it. It was a good game for

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Speaker 1: two and a half quarters, or at least a competitive game.

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Speaker 1: I just saw the Browns do things that bad teams

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Speaker 1: do though. I mean they gave They gave away about

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Speaker 1: ten free points when the game was actually close, with

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Speaker 1: a missed field goal with Hugh Jackson totally botching the

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Speaker 1: time out situation at the end of the first half,

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Speaker 1: and then another penalty which led to fumbling the first

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Speaker 1: play the second half, which led the three more pas.

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Speaker 1: Just like here, here's ten points for you, and it's

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Speaker 1: tough to win. They on the flip side of Kai

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Speaker 1: for Bath to Zane Gonzales, Cleveland's rookie kick or that's had.

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Speaker 1: He's had a tough season and you know he's not along.

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Speaker 1: Greg greg you witnessed my deep passion for this Browns

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Speaker 1: team this morning and before our early England hit. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's that's true. Like Mark, Mark in the past has

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Speaker 1: said that he's let go of the Browns a little bit,

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Speaker 1: I think in this in this case he really is

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Speaker 1: pretty pretty tuned out on this team. Smart Nick, on

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Speaker 1: the other hand, still still has that in his I

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Speaker 1: do engage with people on Twitter after the Browns of

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Speaker 1: Austin's game this morning about why they don't need to

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Speaker 1: fire everybody right now and how it's going to set

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Speaker 1: them back. It's week eight. I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't want them to fire everyone either, but I

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Speaker 1: think the takeaway here is more the Vikings that they

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Speaker 1: this is a game that if they were lesser Vikings

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Speaker 1: team or last year's Vikings team that started out five

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Speaker 1: and oh and then crumbled, they're doing the opposite things

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Speaker 1: this year. They they got stuck in a tough first

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Speaker 1: half and mind their way out of it. What do

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Speaker 1: you want them to do? Nick Shook? Then if if

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Speaker 1: like are you saying now is not too early, this

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Speaker 1: aren't making some change, I think you retain your coaching

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Speaker 1: staff and you consider some front office changes just because

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Speaker 1: they don't seem like they're necessarily on the same page

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Speaker 1: in the long run. But bringing you back to the Vikings,

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Speaker 1: I also had to defend Case Keenum on Twitter today.

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Speaker 1: He's had a pretty solid season, talked about that is

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Speaker 1: this idn't you're doing. I didn't wake up this morning

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Speaker 1: and think I'm gonna have to defend Hugh Jackson and

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Speaker 1: Case Keenum in the same conversation. He made some plays

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Speaker 1: on his own, but Adam feel and makes him look good.

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Speaker 1: And I feel for Keenum because he's been in a

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Speaker 1: lot of different situations. And I could be wrong about this,

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Speaker 1: but if you read Mike zimmers quotes after the game

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Speaker 1: when they asked about Teddy Bridgewater and he said, I

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Speaker 1: hope I have a decision to make. You know, Cases

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Speaker 1: played well, but we'll see what happens there. I I

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Speaker 1: really just just it's just the guess. I really think

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Speaker 1: Teddy bridge Road is going to be the starter after

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Speaker 1: the bye, and he's going to be the one that

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Speaker 1: possibly takes this team into the playoff. Here's the thing,

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Speaker 1: you know, they're winning games, so this is a good

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Speaker 1: position to be regardless unless you make the change in

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Speaker 1: the wheels fall off. Wait, so what's the same Bradford

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00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: situation where are we now? That is so strange. Right

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Speaker 1: now he's in the Maleys, he's sort of he's a

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Speaker 1: bit disinterested, and I think they're just not his injury.

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Speaker 1: Seems like he has no timetable. It's something where he's

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Speaker 1: kind of cleared where he can do football activities, but

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Speaker 1: he clearly just the most important football to be playing

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Speaker 1: on SUN. I think there's something serious going on there

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Speaker 1: where like you're worried about his long term future playing

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Speaker 1: the sport. I think that's the vibes that is he football,

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Speaker 1: Brandon Roy degenerative needs is this? It could be that situation.

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Speaker 1: I was about to say, bro, have a timetable, but

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Speaker 1: now you're making me think, wait, he could be facing

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Speaker 1: a career threatening situations. You read between the line a

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Speaker 1: dash of sensitivity, if you're between the lines of what

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Speaker 1: the insiders and what the medical people there have said.

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Speaker 1: Like that's sort of the vibe you're getting on Bradford

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Speaker 1: that they don't know about his future at all. Interesting,

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Speaker 1: all right, Nick, one of these days we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: you on the show and you're gonna talk about a

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Speaker 1: Brown's win that is not today. It's funny. I did

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Speaker 1: a preview, um so another Twitter um with somebody in

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Speaker 1: London and Twitter bit he goes, He goes, what's the

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Speaker 1: goal for the Browns? And I was just like, win

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Speaker 1: a game, any game, it doesn't matter, just one would

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Speaker 1: be perfectly fine. Perhaps all right there he goes, Shook

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Speaker 1: off to now defend Manuel Noriega on Twitter this seven

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Speaker 1: and a nice doesn't know who there he goes off

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Speaker 1: to the gym. Get that pump in? Is that a

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Speaker 1: Taska soapo refer in a big spot back and buy

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Speaker 1: his day? What if after all this time Shooks actually

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Speaker 1: just been wearing one of those gigantic like halloween asque

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Speaker 1: like bodies that you blow up and he has his

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Speaker 1: actual body. Is like Mike Lennon esk, sure that would

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Speaker 1: be awesome. I wouldn't say it would be like the

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00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 1: biggest NFL scandal of the year, but it would be

642
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: up there. It would rock the news room. Maybe the

643
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: thing is NFL scandal of this room for sure. Let's

644
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: move on, mat Bosher to pump, right to left, Jeremy

645
00:31:56,280 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: curly return, Aman staff shot in the air, directionally wobbling

646
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: to the far side, hard backpedal, retreating and losing the football.

647
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: The fift eight Falcons falling upon it currently lost the ball,

648
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: the Falcons pounds a yard line a giant special team

649
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: staff food. Alright, that was w ZG with the call.

650
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: Jeremy Curly's fourth quarter fumble sucked the light out of

651
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: the medal ends and led to the insurance points. The

652
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: Falcons needed U twenty win for Atlanta, which snapped a

653
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: three game losing streak. The Jets, meanwhile, they've lost for

654
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: the third time in as many weeks. And um, we'll

655
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: start with the Falcons. They are the winners, and uh,

656
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: not a perfect effort by any stretch, and the only

657
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: reason they won this game, and it was this game

658
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: also in a very soggy day across the east coast

659
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: of this country, reigning the entire game, pouring for for

660
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: large swats of the game. But I will say this, Um,

661
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: of the swats of the game, Um, Matt Ryan lost

662
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: three fumble in this game, two turnovers, a failed two

663
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,959
Speaker 1: point conversion attempt. And I don't want to be too negative,

664
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: but Austin Cooper dropped a short touchdown. They had six

665
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: red zone trips and had two touchdowns. They had a

666
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: punt return touchdown wiped out by a penalty still they

667
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: were good enough to beat the Jets because the Jets

668
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: are uh just good enough to lose every week. I

669
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: think the Jets are the um best bad team in

670
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: the league and the Falcons are the worst good team

671
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: in the league. When those two teams square off, what

672
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: happens and narrow win for the worst good team. That's

673
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: what happened today. I couldn't have said it any better.

674
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: The announcer used the term snaffhoo, and I'm sure you

675
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: guys know what it stands for, but it reminds me

676
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: when I once was at a wedding and quiz. My

677
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: friend and I quizzed roughly a hundred and twenty people

678
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: if they knew what IBM stood for. I thought nine

679
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: would know, and roughly maybe thirty people knew what IBM

680
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: stood for, which was stunning. I b M is not

681
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: I've been moved a old IBM Dad's would use back

682
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: in the day. Your dad is an IBM and they

683
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: would move you all around the country all the time.

684
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: So your dad worked there he did for a stretch.

685
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: Is it like integrated business movements or something? I'm not

686
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: telling you. I don't, I don't care, but like I'm

687
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: wrong yes or no, I'm not gonna say so anyway, Yeah,

688
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,959
Speaker 1: the Falcons were sloppy, but they were good enough. In fact,

689
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: this is the first international business machine, which is I

690
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: didn't know, which is a clunky name for a company clunky.

691
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: Uh so the Yeah, the Falcon's inn play a perfect game.

692
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: That the Jets are they'll just drive you nuts. I

693
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 1: mean at one point in the game you were like,

694
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: this is my favorite bad Jets team ever. I feel

695
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: like they have got even though you're you're at peace

696
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: with like, Okay, they're not going to be a playoff

697
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: team this year. Necessarily, they keep getting your hopes that

698
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: the fact that they're losing from a head each week

699
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: is frustrating. Yeah, it's certainly frustrating. It has reached the

700
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: point though where you kind of feel it coming because

701
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: they've now take can leads in four straight games and

702
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: lost the last three and had a gift to win

703
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: in overtime against Jacksonville. Uh so they just had there's

704
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: something going on. Um, I think our boy um Johnny

705
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: Morton has done a nice job on balance as their

706
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. They've scored a touchdown for the third straight

707
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: week in their first possession, which speaks to, you know,

708
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: the scripted plays and and they're doing something right in

709
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 1: terms of studying their opponents and and finding the right plays.

710
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: Josh McCown continues to look very good in spurts, but

711
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: in the second half for the third straight week. And

712
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: now why their season is essentially close to over now

713
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: is they have no idea how to close out a game.

714
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: The defense is what it is. The defense can have moments,

715
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 1: but is not not a great unit by any stretch

716
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: um despite there being some players that can that are

717
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: really promising. The offense is dying out in the second half.

718
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 1: And Matt and Forte, he was not a guy that's

719
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: known to complain, Uh, did complain after this game. He

720
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: only had four carries. Uh, And he said, in a

721
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: pouring rainstorm, why am I only getting four carries? Which

722
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 1: is a fair thing to say, saying that the plan

723
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 1: was to to run the ball more and they went

724
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: away from it. They did a lot of passing in

725
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: that in those conditions, and and that's that's the struggle

726
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: with the Jets right now, closing games. They still can't

727
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: do it. I'm not giving up on the Falcons, though

728
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: they needed a game like this. I know It's not

729
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 1: like a huge comeback win, but they were down. It's

730
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: on the road, it's bad weather, They're not They're not

731
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: great right now, but they have a running game and

732
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: they have a roster. I think that if a few

733
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: things can go right, that their season can turn around.

734
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: But they got to find a way to win some

735
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 1: of these ugly games in the middle, and well, until

736
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: they do, they have the Panthers, the Cowboys, and the

737
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: Seahawks next, I mean the Falcons. Something just has seemed

738
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 1: off from the start. And yet you're exactly right in

739
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: that division in the NFC, they have time to fix it.

740
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: And as for as great as the Jets, But like

741
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: in all these games where they blow the lead, they

742
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: get outgained significantly. Not in in all of these games

743
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: the other team has outgained them, and it's probably deserved

744
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: to win. It's not. It's not like that that they've

745
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: had bad luck or anything. That's why I've never been

746
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: sucked in if you watched them on a snap a

747
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: snap base, as they are a very flawed team. And

748
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: he's shot to beat the Bills on Thursday night, where's

749
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: the game it is in New York? I have a shot, sure,

750
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: is New York big home field advantage for the Jets

751
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: right now, I'm just asking. I don't yes, compared to

752
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: their road I don't think they have a home problem,

753
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: Like there's nothing going on there just isn't his you know.

754
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: So let's let's see what Keith Hans has had to

755
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: say about this Jets loss. Keith a very hopeful Jet fan,

756
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: my dad. But the losses and the manner of the losses,

757
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: it's gonna start grinding on my old man. I know

758
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 1: it now. His name is Keith. He's danced. He'll doubt

759
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 1: about it. He's a big Jets fan. Well does he

760
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: go to say game? To say? Well, does he go

761
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: to Jeff Falcon's game? Today? Another frustrating loss as a

762
00:37:56,120 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: Jet fan to watch the Jets come out and be

763
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: very strong offensively again and then just fade again totally. Um.

764
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: It was just just another example of the team that

765
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 1: shows that it can win, but then in a long run,

766
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: when it comes down to making the big plays at

767
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: the end, the biggest thing that comes down is that

768
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: they just cannot finish, which is frustrating watching this team. Uh.

769
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: I know they're young, but still it's another game that

770
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 1: was winnable and another tough loss. It's a weird season,

771
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 1: but at least they're making the games entertaining. They're not

772
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: embarrassing themselves. But it could be fresh. There were weeks

773
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,320
Speaker 1: that we were a little shorthanded on the on the

774
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,720
Speaker 1: news side downstairs, Would your dad be interested in maybe

775
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: writing a few Jets recaps. I really enjoy his his analysis.

776
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: He's retired, and I think one of the things about

777
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: being retired that's really beneficial is you don't have to

778
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: work anymore. So I don't think he's gonna do that.

779
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: That doesn't but that's very kind of you to reach

780
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: out to Keith, and I will talk to him privately.

781
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: Let's move on. Alan angles the punt right and left

782
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 1: for the sideline drop by back returns for the end.

783
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: On the Patriots call, it appears is rolling that he

784
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 1: got out sence as Brandon Kang and Matthews layer, we're down.

785
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: Benjamin curling to the right side, dropped the poll and

786
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: he circled back and he's tackled for a safety. Stupid

787
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: is what stupid does. What the hell just happened? The

788
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: well that that was stupid is what stupid does. I

789
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 1: guess if if you have a punt return that's returned

790
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: into the end zone for a safety, you're gonna have

791
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: a weird call. That does happened too often in the NFL.

792
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: The whole thing was bizarre is that Zolak was. He's

793
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: popping off, failing himself. It sounds like Bernie Kozar during

794
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 1: a preseason No, no, no, he is much more organized

795
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: than Scott Zolak. Hey Zolak pulled together? Stupid is you know,

796
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: calm down, buddy, that's on my radar. That was That

797
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: was maybe one of the the ugliest special teams plays

798
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 1: of the right. I'm not It's not too often you

799
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: see a punt returner run backwards ten yards and take

800
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: a safety. That's a that's that's experience I have never

801
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: I would like to see the stats on that, but

802
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that's that's happened too often in NFL history.

803
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: He might have set the record for running backwards on

804
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: a punt return before experienced pun returner too. I mean,

805
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: he he really must trust his ability to have you know,

806
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: escaped that jam and it didn't happen. You know what

807
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,720
Speaker 1: else doesn't happen often? A professional broadcaster calling a player stupid.

808
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: I hear you. Stupid is what stupid does. Where's the

809
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: race as I need my radar back where as stupid

810
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: does he's officially eleven yards. He that he ran backwards.

811
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: Give me my radar, lindsay you're on the radar. It

812
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: shows some respects, like he's been on your radar for

813
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: like roughly half a decade. But on balance, I liked

814
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 1: all actypically. But you know, anyway, Tom Brady through for

815
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: three and thirty three yards and a touchdown. Uh. And

816
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: the Patriots, with the help of uh Travis Benjamin, Uh,

817
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: they got win over the Chargers at Foxboro Mark. The

818
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: Pats offense was not instellar form on Sunday, but again

819
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: the defense rose to the occasion. Yeah, the defense played

820
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: a nice game. And I had to give the Chargers

821
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 1: defense credit to because there were multiple moments, especially towards

822
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: the end of the first half, where I thought they

823
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: had fifteen points in the second quarter, New England are

824
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 1: up fifteen and seven, that they're gonna blow this game

825
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: wide open, and Los Angeles found a way to hold

826
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: them to field goals down the stretch. Only six points

827
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: in the second half for the Patriots and Stephen Donkowski

828
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: so reliable, typically kept this thing close with two botched

829
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: field goals of his own the start of last season.

830
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,959
Speaker 1: He's a heath an average. His career is essentially about

831
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 1: to end. I think, is what what what we're trying

832
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: to tell you? But no, I mean it's it's this

833
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: was just the Patriots scramble recovery. No. No, I'm just

834
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: saying I'm pff on this guy's kicker kicking this season.

835
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know, he's Yeah, he's been not

836
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: too good. I'm just saying he's he's on Patriots fans radars.

837
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 1: To put it a different way, I like what New

838
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: England did in this game. Yeah, they had a nice

839
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: game today, It really did so. But this reminded me

840
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: a little bit of how New England attacks Seattle and

841
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: their pass rush out of the gate in the Super

842
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: Bowl two Super bowls ago, when they three Super Bowls ago,

843
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: when they basically used their running backs to a high

844
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: degree on quick release things to to to kind of

845
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: offset Joey Bosa and Melvin Ingram who did there. Brady

846
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: was under a lot of heat, but he showed once

847
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: again with his footwork and he kind of can obviously

848
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: just sort of see stuff coming from behind him. He

849
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: evaded what I think another quarterback would have taken a

850
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: lot more punishment than he did well this game. And

851
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: really this trend for the Patriots is now not just

852
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: one week. I think they're trying to play complementary football

853
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: by controlling the ball. They had what fifty plays in

854
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: the first half something like that can end up with

855
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: over eighty plays, and they're trying to play complementary football

856
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,280
Speaker 1: where you where you keep that defense off the field.

857
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: And it kind of reminded me of the a f

858
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 1: C Championship game with the Chargers where it felt like

859
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: it was really one sided and that the Patriots should

860
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: have control. It was almost the exact same final score,

861
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 1: but in the end, the Chargers are in that game

862
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: to the very end, and Philip Rivers, you know, gets

863
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 1: the ball with a chance to try to win it. Yeah,

864
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: one difference for me because I think last few weeks

865
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: we've seen that was two thousand eight a f C Championship.

866
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: For your young listeners, way back, we get that ever

867
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 1: existed Hunter Henry who has been so involved in late

868
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: two catches for eleven yards, like that to me when

869
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: they when without him being sort of an integral part

870
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: of the game. They lost out through the air. But

871
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: Melvin Gordon had the best game of his of his

872
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: whole season today when you know eight it was eight

873
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: seven yard touchdown right out of the gate, which is

874
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 1: a franchise heard in a career long for him. But

875
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: they this offense to just I don't know. This has

876
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 1: got to be another You want to talk about Jets

877
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: losing in a way, the Jets lose. This is another

878
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: Los Angeles defeat where they could have pulled this thing

879
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: off had things been a little bit different on the stretch.

880
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 1: I am that this was well, this was a lock

881
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: that I lost, But I don't feel I'm proud that

882
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: I picked I went this way because it almost happened.

883
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 1: Are you proud? You know they didn't even cover here?

884
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: Look at they didn't cover What do you mean coming

885
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: I don't remember themselves in glory? Yeah, according to the league,

886
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: I don't operate on that front. Slipping back into the abyss,

887
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: I could feel it. We need to talk to after

888
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 1: the show, um, one guy. I want to just mention

889
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: real quick they get saved for Thursday. I want to

890
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about Keenan Allen not having a

891
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 1: big impact on this team this year, who was basically

892
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: uncoverable when he wasn't injured, finally healthy now for half

893
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: the season and is not putting up near the same

894
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 1: production with a healthy Philip Rivers. I'm just so surprised

895
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 1: about It's interesting. And they're a team I expected to

896
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: have so many different ways to attack you that they

897
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: could be different, you know, each and every week, and

898
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: they're not. They're not really a dangerous offense. And whereas

899
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: the Patriots, you know, I know they're not quite at

900
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: two thousand, seventeen or sixteen levels, but it's like some

901
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 1: weeks they can come out like this and James White

902
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: and Rex Burkhead can combine for twelve catches in a

903
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: hundred and forty yards and that's their offense, and it's

904
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: like they can hit you different ways. The twenty seven

905
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 1: first downs that is kind of vinage Patriots in terms

906
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: of moving it up and down the field. Uh, let's

907
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: move on empty backfield, shotgun, snap upa or and he

908
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: runs it in for a Cincinnati touchdown and w E

909
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: b N with amazing play. Can I just hear the

910
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: color guys are actually get that? Guys the master of

911
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: his domain line. That lineman Carlos dune Lap, he knocked

912
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: Jake Briskets passing there, grabbed it, took it to the

913
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: end zone sixteen yards. Uh and it was a game

914
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: changing touchdown just being that guy rally rallying the Bengals

915
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 1: to win over the Indianapolis Cults. Mark Uh. Cincinnati averted

916
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: disaster at home to keep themselves in the a f

917
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: C playoff picture at the midway point. I can't quite

918
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: understand what those those commentators are so excited about watching

919
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: this Bengals team, because, well, that was a great play

920
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: the micro level, that's fine to win the game in

921
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: the fourth. I'm just saying, this Bengals team, to me,

922
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: barely outlasted a dead on arrival Cults operation. And I

923
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: cannot take Andy Dalton and the Bengals seriously anymore this season.

924
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 1: They go on the road for the next three weeks

925
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: and they're gonna come back out of the playoff picture entirely.

926
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 1: This was a game that simply was about which quarterback

927
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton or Jacobe Prisette is going to make the

928
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: key era at the end of the game. That's all

929
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: I came down to. This was a. This was not

930
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: an inspiring win for the Bengals. I don't care what

931
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 1: anyone says. Mark is the sport of footballs on your

932
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 1: radar right now. Football did some good things today the Bengals.

933
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: You know, as you were, you were really hoping the

934
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: Bengals were gonna lose. You wanted to bury them their

935
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,359
Speaker 1: division rival, and you wanted to just say, hey, let's

936
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: cross them. Offers not a division rival. It's we're at

937
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 1: the time of year where if you're a pretender, get

938
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: out I can't deal with. And had they lost this game,

939
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 1: it would have been one another another nail in the grave.

940
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: This is to this team is not this team is

941
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: going nowhere. I love mid season Mark, because the league

942
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: is it is a tad water down and this Bengals

943
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: team that's still mathematically hanging around their three and four

944
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: I will not tolerate them again. Does that mean I

945
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: will not cover them again this season? You're not putting them.

946
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: It was this game that I had to watch on

947
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 1: the background while the Patriots Chargers game was on, and

948
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: it was an eyesore. Alex uh Wow. It's it's troubling

949
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: that they could that they were out gained and maybe

950
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: out played for both of the game by the Colts

951
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: and and surprising they are in a position where who

952
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 1: knows if they can play better. But Joe mix and

953
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: eleven carries eighteen yards is kind of an answer. And

954
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: he had a huge catch and made a big difference

955
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: as a receiver. That was play right, That was a

956
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: terrific play. But it kind of is an answer to

957
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 1: the people who have been saying, like you just got

958
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: to hand it over to to Mixing, like their their

959
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: problems on offense, start up front, whether it's the running

960
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 1: game or the passing game, like those are the problems.

961
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 1: And I thought it was very fitting that this game

962
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 1: essentially ended with Jake Briskett, you know who I love,

963
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 1: but holding the ball a little too long on a

964
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 1: fourth down, you know, play before getting rid of it,

965
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: you know, And because that that has been the problem

966
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: for him, and and I do wonder if this team

967
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: is gonna be a little different next week. The Colts

968
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 1: think they could be a team that could be trading

969
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: one last thing, your boy, Frank Gore, nice game, Frankie,

970
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: He's he's, he's he's close to five yards to carry

971
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: over the last month, Mark and Mark, I believe you

972
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: have one more common about Cincinnati. Well, Marvin Lewis, who

973
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: is an idiot. Let's move on Stewart in the backfield,

974
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: tight line splits. Newton turns hands to Stewart, who leaps touchdown.

975
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,359
Speaker 1: Yes he did, Yes he did. Indeed, Cam Newton three

976
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: through for a hundred fifty four yards UH touchdown to

977
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: Calvin Benjamin. Jonathan Stewart had a touchdown. The Panthers defense

978
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: did the rest a seven team three win over the

979
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: sleepwalking Tampa Bay Buccaneers on Sunday in Tampa. Gentlemen, I

980
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,919
Speaker 1: don't know, you know, Let's let the Tampa Bay Bucks.

981
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: We'll get to the Panthers in a second. Let the

982
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers be the latest and perhaps strongest reminder

983
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 1: not to fall for the hard knocks team. And I'm

984
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 1: not saying the season's over, but at the midway point

985
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 1: for them, they're three games bad of the Saints. Yeah,

986
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: at the midway point of the season. I know they

987
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: played seven games because they had the week went by. Um,

988
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 1: they got a big fat f from me in terms

989
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: of UH expectations. Uh, in terms of everything we thought

990
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: we knew about kind of the the chemistry and the

991
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: vibe around that team and hard knocks. It was all

992
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: kumbai yah in August, and now everybody's upset about something.

993
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston had a really bad game, uh today and

994
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: and and what was an important game? I thought, Greg

995
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: because and I'll point to one one sequence that happened

996
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: in the second half. Um, the Bucks have their backs

997
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: against the wall. I wish I could tell you the

998
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,240
Speaker 1: exact score, but I could tell you that, Uh, Winston

999
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 1: missus an open Mike Evans streaking down the sideline would

1000
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: have been a touchdown. This is that pass, and then

1001
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 1: the next play throws it over the middle, sales it

1002
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 1: over his intended receiver. Luke Kickley intercepts it. And I

1003
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,800
Speaker 1: remember thinking myself, that was the most important possession of

1004
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: the season for Tampa and the quarterback could not have

1005
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 1: come up any more small. Uh. And that's kind of

1006
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: the state of the Bucks right now, a team with

1007
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: a lot of potential but not even coming close to

1008
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: reaching that potential. And the standings tell the story well.

1009
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: Kurt Dirk Cutter had an interesting week where he insisted

1010
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: to the media that Jamis Winston suffered no setback despite

1011
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: sitting him for the first two practices. The week this

1012
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: week where then he was on a serious show on

1013
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: Friday night and he admitted that Jamis Winston reinjured his

1014
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: shoulder against the Bill. So I'm not saying that is

1015
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: explains away the Bucks season obviously doesn't. Winston played great

1016
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: last week, but his shoulder, I don't know if today

1017
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: was a problem. He certainly wasn't throwing it very accurately today.

1018
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: And this was the type of game where the thing

1019
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: that stuck out to me was Mike Evans after the

1020
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: game saying we're not as good as we thought, Like

1021
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: this is what we keep hearing about the books, like

1022
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's two thousand seventeen, Like our team

1023
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: is really falling for the their own like preseason hype

1024
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: that much. The Giants have been saying this too, that

1025
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 1: like we're not as good as we thought we were.

1026
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: We thought we were great. We thought all the preseason

1027
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: height meant something. By the way, when we say the

1028
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: Bucks may not be done well, they have a long

1029
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,040
Speaker 1: way to go. There's only one team, and that's the

1030
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: Giants in the NFC with fewer wins right, and there's

1031
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: three teams in their division that are above five hundred,

1032
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: including a five and two Saints teams, so it's a

1033
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: long it's a long climb out And on the Panthers side,

1034
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 1: they had a nice drive early in the game. Didn't

1035
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: do a ton on offense, but didn't really need to.

1036
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 1: And you know, shout out to their defense, who once

1037
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,919
Speaker 1: again are looking good. Yes, they lost seventeen three last week,

1038
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: they won seventeen three this week, but they only gave

1039
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 1: up three points on defense last week. There were two

1040
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: defensive scores that that submarine them in that game. So

1041
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: the defense is playing great. Um, so that's not what

1042
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: their problem is. And they still seem to be Carolina

1043
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: despite them being up and down. The team with to

1044
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 1: me that has the highest ceiling in that division. I

1045
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 1: think New Orleans agamma run for their money, but we're

1046
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: just not used to seeing that from the Saints. But

1047
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: the Panthers, like, I mean, they've had some they've had

1048
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: some rough weeks, and somehow they sit at five and

1049
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 1: three right now, so they're totally in the picture. And

1050
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 1: Jonathan Stewart didn't really run like they still didn't have

1051
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 1: a running game like that. The second they have a

1052
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: running game, then I'll start buying them. Is that going

1053
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: to happen. I don't know. I mean, you never know.

1054
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 1: It doesn't look like it's gonna happen, not right now anyway. Um,

1055
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 1: all right, Mark, Um, you have some dad work to do,

1056
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 1: that's correct? Yes, is daddy ever coming back? Yeah? It

1057
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: is my child Luke's seventh birthday. Did celebrate it a

1058
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 1: bit yesterday? Seven years old old? Where does the time go? Mark? Well,

1059
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, it goes quickly. I don't even if

1060
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 1: I could answer that question I could. What did you

1061
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: do to celebrate? On Saturday? Went out to brunch, opened

1062
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Speaker 1: uh cake and lots of sweets and so what this

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Speaker 1: was in a situation because your son's I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: which one actually pressed the button. They famously once ordered

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Speaker 1: click ordering. It was amazing. Yes, they had credible iPad

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Speaker 1: up at our house and We were totally stunned. They

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Speaker 1: almost pulled it off. They almost did it. Who is

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Speaker 1: parts like criminal parts. It's Ebb and flow scenario. Very interesting.

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Speaker 1: All right, Mark, Well, you do your dad? Thank you?

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Speaker 1: Prioritized family over the podcast again for the final eight

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Speaker 1: All right, before we get to the last game, I

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Speaker 1: have a question, Greg, Wow waiting to hear this one.

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Speaker 1: Was it a comeback? Is that the question? That's what Mark? No,

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Speaker 1: I got no bits with you in the comeback realm.

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Speaker 1: like the product, use it. We support it. Let's move

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00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: to Sunday night football Sunday Night. Then in the shotgun

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00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: stands in the sam zone. We're two projectives. He's back,

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00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: he works, he fires down the field, and it's time

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00:56:55,120 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 1: to run. Sir foot Price thirty five thirty Steelers touchdown

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00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: yards officially nineties seven yards. Jujuice Smith Schuster with the

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00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: play of the game. His touchdown in the third quarter

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00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: gave the Pittsburgh Steelers all the points they would need

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Speaker 1: on Sunday in Detroit, a win over the Lions, who

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00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 1: just have to be sick uh in the locker room

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00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: right now, Greg Rosenthal, because they had five opportunities in

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Speaker 1: the red zone against the Steelers, Uh tonight in their

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00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: building in a very important game, and scored zero count

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Speaker 1: of zero touchdowns. They had four hundred and eighty two

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00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: yards in this game that when you see a number

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00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: like that, you're thinking teams in the thirties, maybe the forties.

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Speaker 1: You only end up with fifteen points. That's the third

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00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: most yards by an offense in NFL history without a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: And this dying season would be so different if they

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00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 1: could pick up a second one or a third and one.

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Speaker 1: This is not a one game problem. This has been

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00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: a season long problem. They'd have two or three more

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00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: wins if they could do it. Oh my goodness. I

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00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: mean Matthew Stafford, He's now done this twice in his career,

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00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: which is insane. He's thrown for four hundred yards and

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Speaker 1: not a touchdown. Four hundred and twenty three yards. He

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00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: averaged nine point four yards per attempt. Uh, he did

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Speaker 1: not throw an interception, drop some dimes tonight, some very

1140
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: nice passage. He was certainly not the problem. But you know,

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00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: and the thing I was thinking Greg, and we talked

1142
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: about it while we're watching this game. There's you could

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00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: point to any of those red zone possessions that were

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00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: kind of a mess. And the one while I'll go

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00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: with here is the last one where they had a

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00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: chance to take the lead late in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: It's first and ten from I believe, either eleven or twelve,

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Speaker 1: and they get it down, you know, inside the five,

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Speaker 1: and then it's third down, and then it's fourth down,

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00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,080
Speaker 1: and you're looking at you're looking at that roster and

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00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: you're saying, all right, who's gonna step up and make

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00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: the play. They have some nice players on that roster,

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00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: skill player, but there's nobody that I really trust in

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Speaker 1: that spot. And as much as the running games a

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00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: problem to me, a true lack of a number one receiver,

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00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: that's a big issue too. That that's a huge problem.

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Speaker 1: Cal friend Kevin Patra, you know, famous Lions fan. He

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Speaker 1: says they lost because Jim Bob called the horrific game

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Speaker 1: in the red zone. I think that's part of it,

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Speaker 1: but a lot of it is they can't run the

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Speaker 1: ball straight ahead to pick up a yard or two,

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Speaker 1: and you just need to be able to do that

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Speaker 1: as a team. And you gotta give some love to

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Speaker 1: the Steelers. For instance, on that last fourth down, they

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Speaker 1: only rushed three and Shazir I believe it was rushing

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Speaker 1: up the middle and dupri on the left side made

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Speaker 1: Stafford get rid of the ball. And when when you're

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Speaker 1: dropping eight like that, the best you're hoping for is

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00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: just to waste a lot of time and kind of

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Speaker 1: improvise and someone gets open late, and they made sure

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Speaker 1: that didn't happen. So on a bad day in theory

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Speaker 1: for the Steelers defense, they made all the big place.

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Speaker 1: And there's been some talk out there that perhaps the

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00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: Steelers are too reliant on uh they're two big playmakers,

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Speaker 1: Antonio Brown and Levy on Bell. Uh. So consider this

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Speaker 1: a good sign that not a great left Bell game,

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Speaker 1: who had seven more touches but didn't really do much,

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Speaker 1: did score a touchdown. But Juju Smith Schuster, the guy

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Speaker 1: that just seems to be in the middle of everything.

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Speaker 1: And you know, Martavis Bryant, uh inactive in this game,

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01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: is sick watching Juju go for ninety seven yards and

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Speaker 1: a touchdown. And then I have a whole choreographed act

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Speaker 1: on the sideline which I loved with putting the chain

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Speaker 1: on the bike and having having fun all all of

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Speaker 1: the teammates. He locked it up in a big spot.

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Speaker 1: Smith Schuster first seven he sure did so. Juju Smith

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Speaker 1: Schuster going seven for one? How about that? Um so? Uh?

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01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: He almost he almost doubled this total yard is for

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Speaker 1: the season. It feels like Juju Smith Schuster has been

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Speaker 1: everywhere because we were you know, he's gotten a lot

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Speaker 1: of run here with this bike routine, with the mark

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Speaker 1: Tavis Bryant back and forth. It's like Juju Smith Schuster,

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Speaker 1: it's all about him right now in Pittsburgh. And the

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Speaker 1: only ad about two yards going into this game. He's

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Speaker 1: a fun player to watch. And Antonio Brown, you know

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01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: that's getting at him too, He's like, how much? How

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01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,360
Speaker 1: come my bits aren't getting traction like that? And one

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Speaker 1: one last note from me, greg Um, I have I

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Speaker 1: had a legitimate Sessler. Sometimes we we joke around on

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Speaker 1: the show about having Sessler's or we don't actually have

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Speaker 1: I had a legitimate Sessler. A vision even of Juju

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Speaker 1: Smith Schuster that first Sunday in February in Minneapolis, right

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Speaker 1: in that now famous bike on the field with confetti everywhere,

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01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 1: and his team or teammates all wearing white T shirts

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01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 1: and caps, and all the NFL film crew following Juju

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Speaker 1: on his bike. After of course he has a nice

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01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 1: game there, two scores, a touchdown, and a Steelers super

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Speaker 1: Bowl win. Just just a Sessler had checks out for me.

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Speaker 1: You've been telling me all season, Oh well, I even

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01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: play out the season the Patriots will end up there. Well.

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01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,959
Speaker 1: I had the Steelers in the super Bowl going into

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01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: this season, and their previous two games I thought were

1213
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Speaker 1: the most impressive two games by any a f C

1214
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: team all season, back to back. And they're not gonna

1215
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,440
Speaker 1: be that good every week. In the end, they get

1216
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: a road win here to put them at six and two.

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01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: They're in a great, great position right now in the

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Speaker 1: f C. I didn't believe until I have that vision everything.

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Speaker 1: Now you're on board. All right. That's it for the

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Speaker 1: Sunday edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back on Tuesday with our next show. And as we

1222
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 1: teased or revealed in our mail bag last Tuesday, we

1223
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: are gonna stick a fork in some teams and that's

1224
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: gonna be tough. Greg, It's not gonna be I know

1225
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: you're not looking forward to because it's a tough assignment,

1226
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: especially in a strange, topsy turvy season such as this. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm all about you know, unpredictable, unpredictability raining. You know that,

1228
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: you know you never count out anything. I'm not counting

1229
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: out this Lions team just because they're three and four. Alright,

1230
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: I like it. So Mark will be back, Uh, Connie

1231
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: Fox will be with us, and we'll have a good time.

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01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 1: So thank you everybody for listening. Uh. That is it

1233
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: for today's show, And with that, the stand hands signing

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01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 1: off for Mark Sesler, the Sizzler in absentia, Uh, the

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01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: old Boss Lindsay Foulton behind the glass. We will see

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Speaker 1: you Tuesday, m