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Speaker 1: This is what happens when the fourth Turning meets fifth

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Speaker 2: A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran.

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Speaker 1: This is Human Events with your host Jack Posovic. Christ

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Speaker 1: is King.

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Speaker 3: Nicholas Maduro had his chance, just like Iran had their chance.

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Speaker 3: Until they didn't, and until he didn't left.

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Speaker 4: Around and he found out.

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Speaker 3: President Trump is deadly serious about stopping the flow of

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Speaker 3: gangs and violence to our country, deadly serious about stopping

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Speaker 3: the flow of drugs and poison to our people.

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Speaker 5: Takeover of Venezuela's oil industry. President Trump is aiming to

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Speaker 5: Tampa to that country's vast oil reserves, the largest in

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Speaker 2: With Sident Maduto out, President Trump wants American oil companies in,

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Speaker 2: saying the runway is now clear for US corporations to

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Speaker 2: revitalize a quote badly broken oil industry they once dominated,

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Speaker 2: but tonight some questioning if that plan is realistic.

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Speaker 6: The oil companies are going to go in, They're going

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Speaker 6: to spend money, We're going to take back the oil.

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Speaker 7: And just look at what we did this past year

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Speaker 7: under President Trump's leadership, we seized enough fentanyl to kill

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Speaker 7: one hundred and seventy five million American citizens. That is

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Speaker 7: an increase in fentanyl caesars by over thirty percent as well.

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Speaker 6: That is very sect Columbia is very sect to run

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Speaker 6: by the sixth Man. He likes making cocaine and selling

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Speaker 6: it to the United States, and he's not going to.

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Speaker 4: Be doing it very long here.

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Speaker 6: One of the things that is happening that I think

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Speaker 6: you see it. You see it all the time, Howard,

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Speaker 6: You've seen it that Cuba is ready to fall. Yes,

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Speaker 6: Cuba looks like it's ready to fall. I don't know

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Speaker 6: how if they're can hold out. But Cuba now has

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Speaker 6: any Cuban literally is ready to fall.

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Speaker 4: Head.

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Speaker 6: You have a lot of great Cuban Americans, and I'm

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Speaker 4: Good night, Hoping you.

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Speaker 1: Well, ladies and gentle and welcome on board today's edition

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Speaker 1: of Human Events Daily. Today is January fifth, twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Anno Domini and we are back here, first live show

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Speaker 1: of the year, and of course, the first show after

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Speaker 1: the stunning operation the United States military took this weekend

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Speaker 1: in Caracas, Venezuela, the capture, extraction and now putting on

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Speaker 1: trial of Nicholas Maduro, the former I suppose he could say,

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Speaker 5: What's this all really about?

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Speaker 1: What's going on here? Is this a full on regime change.

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Speaker 1: I've been on war room a couple of times since then.

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Speaker 5: Is full on regime change.

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Speaker 1: We just did the entire We spent weeks working on

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Speaker 1: We put it up the four parts Iraq, Afghanistan, Ukraine, Syria.

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Speaker 1: We dug down deep in all of them. But what

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Speaker 1: takes place. Because the opposition wanted Machado to get in there.

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Speaker 4: I'm doing well. Thanks for having me on. Jack.

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Speaker 9: Right, And you know, sorry to keep doing the history

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Speaker 1: We're going to get into that coming up next. Jack

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Speaker 1: with Sovic Dan Caldwell. Human Events Daily continues.

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Speaker 6: Talk about influences. These are influences and.

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Speaker 4: They're friends of mine. Jack, Jack.

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Speaker 5: Break down, All.

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Speaker 1: Right, Jack Pazevik, we're back live Human Events Daily and

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Speaker 1: we're talking all things Venezuela.

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Speaker 5: We've got Dan Caldwell on.

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Speaker 1: He's a senior fellow on Foreign policy from American Moment. Dan,

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Speaker 1: when we look at this scenario, one of the things

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Speaker 1: I mentioned before, how I don't know if that requires

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Speaker 9: So I don't think you can call this a regime

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Speaker 9: And the President and his administration, in my view, have

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Speaker 9: So in that case, the administration has really limited options.

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Speaker 1: That's right, And in fact, I remember saying this back

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Speaker 5: We just don't need it. We don't need an Iraq

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Speaker 1: What do we always say here on Human Events Daily,

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Speaker 1: if you want to understand world geopolitics, cherche la petrol.

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Speaker 1: The French have a phrase se lafem look for the girl.

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Speaker 1: And over here we say surche la petrol, look for

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Speaker 1: larger than Saut, the Saudia's larger than Iran, larger than

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Speaker 1: the Canadian oil sands, although there's some dispute about whether

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Speaker 1: Canada has more larger than Iraq, Uae, Kuwait, Russia, the

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Speaker 1: United States, Libya, larger than all of them. This is

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Speaker 1: one of the keys here. And yes, the economics of

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Speaker 1: extracting Venezuelan oil are kind of tricky because it's a

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Speaker 1: heavy oil, it's a dirty oil, the crude, so it

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Speaker 1: needs it requires much more refining, and what better refineries

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Speaker 1: And so of course you know you're going to see

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Speaker 1: the Texas oil barons looking down saying, wow, what better

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Speaker 1: spot to refine that than right here in the Gulf

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Speaker 1: of America. So clearly there are economic interests at play,

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Speaker 1: and we're not going to you know, we're not going

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Speaker 1: to sit here and say this isn't about that, but

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Speaker 1: if you want that to make sense, which, by the way,

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Speaker 1: and Dan, just in the final minute here before the break,

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Speaker 1: we had a relationship with Venezuela for years prior to

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Speaker 1: the current embargo, correct.

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Speaker 9: In a military relationship. They are still flying American F sixteens.

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Speaker 9: And if you look at some of the post raid

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Speaker 9: We had a very close relationship with their military for

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Speaker 9: years up until the two thousand and two coup. That

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Speaker 9: was an attempt to overthrow Javes and it failed. So

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Speaker 9: we had a long economic and military relationship with Venezuela

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Speaker 9: really until the election of Hugo Chavez in the late

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Speaker 9: nineteen nineties.

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Speaker 5: And so there it is, folks.

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Speaker 1: The idea is turn that on sit Goo going to

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Speaker 1: be expanding in the US.

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Speaker 5: We will see our Chevron, I should say Chevron expanding

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Speaker 5: in the US.

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Speaker 8: We'll see come back next to me, an sale.

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Speaker 5: Where's Jack?

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Speaker 1: Where is he? Jack?

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Speaker 4: I want to see you.

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Speaker 6: Great job, Jack, Thank you, what a job you do.

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Speaker 6: You know, we have an incredible thing.

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Speaker 4: We're always talking about.

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Speaker 1: The fake news and the band, but we have guys

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Speaker 1: and these are the guys you're forgetting Pulasushki.

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Speaker 5: All right, Jack, Pisobick.

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Speaker 1: We are back live Human Events Daily, getting some emails

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Speaker 1: in now on on our question of the day, what

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Speaker 1: do you think of the US policy in Venezuela some people.

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Speaker 1: First one in from Jeff, he says terrible slippery slope

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Speaker 1: to forever war. Then I'm also seeing Then we got

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Speaker 1: another one in from Mongoose. Well, it's not okay for

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Speaker 1: Cuba a proxy for China Russia to control Venezuela.

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Speaker 5: But it was wrong for the US to do.

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Speaker 1: But you think, but people think it was wrong to

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Speaker 1: do anything about it.

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Speaker 5: And let's go back from.

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Speaker 1: Forth here from from Paul overthrow Annexit, as they like

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Speaker 1: to say, encourage our Latin population to go and establish

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Speaker 1: a new American colony. We're accused of it. Maybe we

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Speaker 1: should actually do it Venezuelica.

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Speaker 5: Jeff. Another Jeff, we should put a long straw straight

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Speaker 5: into the ground.

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Speaker 1: That sucks the oil right out of the grounds and

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Speaker 1: brings it straight.

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Speaker 5: To the US.

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Speaker 1: So that's a reference to there will be blood.

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Speaker 5: Email from Tony.

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Speaker 1: I think any war that lessens the likelihood my kid

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Speaker 1: will overdose on fentanyl is a fight worth fighting. So

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Speaker 1: talking about these, you know, the fentanyl trafficking that was

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Speaker 1: coming in from DN twenty five years ago. The CIA

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Speaker 1: would have done this as a covered action, but that's

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Speaker 1: not Trump's style.

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Speaker 5: I like that.

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Speaker 1: Whoever so long as the CIA is actively trafficking drugs,

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Speaker 1: I don't see how it changes anything. Many countries are

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Speaker 1: responsible for trafficking drugs into the US. Email from Schiffhead

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Speaker 1: If we can get Maduro, why are Shift and Pelosi

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Speaker 1: walking around?

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Speaker 5: Another does like the third Jef? What's up with all these.

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Speaker 1: Jeffs Venezuela the new US territory? Let them vote for statehood. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm totally against that.

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Speaker 5: I want to get Dan Callwell back in here. So Dan,

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Speaker 5: we're hearing.

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Speaker 1: You know, just just in my own you know, kind

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Speaker 1: of like you know, ab testing there. You know, it

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Speaker 1: seems that it seems that conservatives are somewhat divided on this.

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Speaker 1: Some people saying they're totally for it, they like it,

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Speaker 1: they like the oil extraction. Other people saying that they

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Speaker 1: like it because they believe it's going to reduce bentanol

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Speaker 1: in the United States, stop the drug trafficking, or at least,

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Speaker 1: you know, partially, and others saying, of course that you

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Speaker 1: know that this is great shut down the strategic elements

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Speaker 1: of China of Russia coming into the area. Another person

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing mentioned Lake and Riley, of course, and others

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Speaker 1: who have been affected by trendy Arragua and other illegal

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Speaker 1: aliens and these gangs carte.

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Speaker 5: Coming out of Venezuela.

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Speaker 1: So when we look at all of this, when we

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Speaker 1: look at all of this, what's the big picture for

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Speaker 1: the American people and American interests in these operations?

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Speaker 9: Look, I think what those emails lay out and what

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Speaker 9: a lot of your listeners and viewers are saying and

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Speaker 9: working through is actually healthy, because look, I think that

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Speaker 9: it is good to be inherently skeptical at the outset

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Speaker 9: of any type of offensive military action, particularly considering the

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Speaker 9: history of the last thirty years. However, that doesn't mean

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Speaker 9: that military action military options should always be off the table.

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Speaker 9: And when we're talking about our own hemisphere, the stakes

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Speaker 9: are fundamentally different and I would say higher than in

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Speaker 9: places like Iraq, Afghanistan, Eastern Europe, Ukraine. Is that what

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Speaker 9: matters here is absolutely critical to our safety and our prosperity.

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Speaker 9: And so what was going on in Venezuela when it

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Speaker 9: comes to the degradation of the Venezuelan government and the

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Speaker 9: miseration of the Venezuelan people and the refugee flows that

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Speaker 9: that created, and the emergence of more and more drug

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Speaker 9: organizations in Venezuela that had a negative impact on the

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Speaker 9: United States that needed to be acknowledged and ultimately in

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Speaker 9: some way dealt with. And so when you're looking at Venezuela,

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Speaker 9: I would say is that absolutely immediately when you see

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Speaker 9: a military operation is first and foremost you should pray

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Speaker 9: for the safety of our troops in the mill of

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Speaker 9: that operation. But it is not a bad thing to

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Speaker 9: be skeptical. However, it needs to be acknowledged that not

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Speaker 9: every part of the world means the same thing to

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Speaker 9: the United States, and when it comes to our own hemisphere,

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Speaker 9: we have more interest at stake, and whether it's ensuring

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Speaker 9: that foreign powers can't use our own hemisphere to hurt

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Speaker 9: American safety, to degrade our economic prosperity, or use it

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Speaker 9: as a way to undermine our society through things like

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Speaker 9: drugs or immigration or other types of criminal enterprises. So

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Speaker 9: when you're looking at the situation of Venezuela, you should

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Speaker 9: apply the lessons from Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya. But

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Speaker 9: there's not a perfect apples to apples comparison, and you

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Speaker 9: need to take each situation differently. And I just finally say,

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Speaker 9: is that if you go back to our founding and

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Speaker 9: really the first one hundred and fifty years of our

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Speaker 9: foreign policy. Almost the sole focus of our foreign policy

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Speaker 9: up until World War One was what happened in our

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Speaker 9: western hemisphere, because our founding fathers knew that it was

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Speaker 9: important that the United States be the dominant power in

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Speaker 9: our own hemisphere and that it is not used by

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Speaker 9: foreign powers or ultimately non state actors to undermine our security.

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Speaker 9: So this is part of a long tradition of American

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Speaker 9: foreign policy, and it's really a return to the foreign

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Speaker 9: policy that made Americans America is successful and helped us

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Speaker 9: become strong. So that's how I would encourage people to

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Speaker 9: look at it now. Again, we don't know what the

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Speaker 9: future holds for Venezuela. We should all hope that the

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Speaker 9: Trump administration successful. Even if you disagreed with the operation,

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Speaker 9: you should be rooting for its success and talking about

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Speaker 9: what the administration should be doing to be successful. And

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Speaker 9: there's a lot of mistakes that could be made, but

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Speaker 9: we have to acknowledge that that are What happens here

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Speaker 9: in our own hemisphere is different, is fundamentally important, and

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Speaker 9: should be looked at differently than other parts of the world.

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Speaker 5: No I certainly agree.

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Speaker 1: And that's why when people have talked about when President

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Speaker 1: Trump gave it one of his first.

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Speaker 5: Speeches at the end of the campaign.

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Speaker 1: So he wins, the campaign, flies out to Arizona and

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Speaker 1: he speaks on stage at turning Point at the America

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Speaker 1: Fest out there, and he comes up and I'm sitting there.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, probably like row two, row three. I

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Speaker 1: got my family, and I got producer Fiz next to me.

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Speaker 1: And for the first time all year, in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: President Trump starts talking about the Panama Canal, and I

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Speaker 1: just got up out of my seat, put up two

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Speaker 1: put up two arms, and started clapping and said, yes,

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Speaker 1: that is our canal, and it deserves it is ours

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Speaker 1: by right. It is ours by right of creation. We

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Speaker 1: are the ones who made it. It is ridiculous. It

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Speaker 1: is a national embarrassment that the United States does not

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Speaker 1: maintain full control of the Panama Canal, and as such

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Speaker 1: should be ours. And I've said for years, just parking

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Speaker 1: aircraft carrier one in the Atlantic, one in the Pacific

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Speaker 1: until it is turned back over.

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Speaker 5: It's really as simple as that. In addition, Greenland.

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Speaker 1: Greenland is something that has now been talked about again,

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Speaker 1: these are key for our hemispheric defense. So hemispheric defense

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Speaker 1: does give us the direct control of our own safety

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Speaker 1: and security. By the way, the United States bought a

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Speaker 1: massive war with the Spanish, with the Spanish Kingdom, the

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Speaker 1: Spanish Empire to kick them out of Cuba, kick them

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Speaker 1: out of the Caribbean. This is what sort of bequeathed

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Speaker 1: us Guantanamo Bay, if you will, eighteen ninety eight, our

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Speaker 1: longest over our oldest overseas based longest running for since

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighteen ninety eight on the Philippines as well, which

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Speaker 1: could have been a US colony, but instead we gave

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Speaker 1: them their independence.

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Speaker 5: Same with Cuba. Of course, we saw how that turned out.

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Speaker 1: So when we look at the history of the United

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Speaker 1: States in this region, does make direct sense for the

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Speaker 1: US to be the great power of the Western Hemisphere,

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Speaker 1: and as such it must act like the great power

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Speaker 1: of the Western Hemisphere. Certainly, you certainly see the Russians

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Speaker 1: in the Chinese doing this. We certainly see other countries

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Speaker 1: acting in their own interests. There's no question that the

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Speaker 1: United States should do the same. Dan, last minute and

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Speaker 1: a half to you give us your coordinates and then

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Speaker 1: give us a wrap up on just what do you

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Speaker 1: think we'll see next in the next coming you know,

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Speaker 1: the coming days and weeks.

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Speaker 9: So the best place to find my work is on

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Speaker 9: x at dand Caldwell and of course at americanmoment dot org.

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Speaker 9: So I think the big question over the next coming

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Speaker 9: weeks and months is how the president chooses to proceed

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Speaker 9: with the existing Venezuelan regime and how deferential they are

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Speaker 9: to us, and then ultimately what the transition away from

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Speaker 9: Maduro looks like. Are there going to be elections very rapidly?

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Speaker 9: I don't think so, based on President Trump's remarks about

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Speaker 9: the need to have law and order instability before that happens.

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Speaker 9: Is there going to be an effort to ensure that

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Speaker 9: the foreign actors from adversarial countries like Iran and China

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Speaker 9: and Russia, that they're removed from Venezuela or they leave

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Speaker 9: as part of a deal.

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Speaker 4: I think those are things to be watching.

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Speaker 9: I think finally is what how do other countries in

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Speaker 9: the region respond. Does tensions increase with countries like Columbia

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Speaker 9: that's been very vocally against what we did in Venezuela,

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Speaker 9: or is there a lot of public you know, gnashing

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Speaker 9: of the teeth and pounding of the table. But is

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Speaker 9: there a lot of stuff behind the scenes that we

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Speaker 9: don't see that is actually smoothing away or smoothing the

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Speaker 9: way to them actually supporting what we do in Venezuela.

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Speaker 9: I wouldn't be surprised if that's already happening behind the scenes.

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't surprise me it all, Dan Calwell, American moment.

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Speaker 1: Give them a followed, folks, right back, take you to

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Speaker 1: the ground, New York City, rom Maduro was on trial.

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Speaker 1: Jack is a great guy. He's rich, that fantastic look

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Speaker 1: and everybody's.

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Speaker 4: Talking about it. Go get it that. He's been my

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Speaker 4: friend right from the.

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Speaker 1: Beginning of this whole beautiful event, and we're going to

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Speaker 1: turn her around and make her guntry way to get

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Speaker 1: new Am. All right, folks, JACKI Sebek are back here

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Speaker 1: Live Human Events Daily.

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Speaker 5: Want to go now to the ground.

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Speaker 1: We've got David Zeer, Rap correspondent who's there in Manhattan

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Speaker 1: at the courthouse, just outside the courthouse where I'm told

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Speaker 1: Meduro has just finished being processed. Was made his way

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Speaker 1: back to the correction facility. David's ear, How are you.

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Speaker 4: Hi?

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Speaker 10: Good afternoon, Jack, y'all. An incredible day here, historic day

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Speaker 10: in Lower Manhattan. And as you know, Meduro and his

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Speaker 10: wife Cecilia were flown from the Metropolitan Detention Center in

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Speaker 10: Brooklyn to the courthouse this morning, but left by convoy,

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Speaker 10: and I think they came by helicopter this morning to

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Speaker 10: avoid logistics snares and rush hour traffic first day back

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Speaker 10: from the New Year holiday right for workers here in

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Speaker 10: New York City and other but he was taken by truck.

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Speaker 10: There was some drama in the courtroom at the end.

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Speaker 10: Now I was in the overflow room next door because

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Speaker 10: there was one hundreds of media trying to get in there.

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Speaker 10: But we heard at the end someone in the audience

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Speaker 10: shouted out, You're going to pay for what you've done.

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Speaker 10: I believe that person was escorted out, and on his

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Speaker 10: way out, Medua was saying, you know, I was I'm

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Speaker 10: a prisoner of war and I could give you a

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Speaker 10: little bit of the summary of what happened in the

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Speaker 10: arrangement if you want, and other.

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Speaker 1: Well, sure, we do want to hear that, because I

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Speaker 1: think in general people want to know what exactly are

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Speaker 1: the charges that he is facing and what essentially the

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Speaker 1: penalties will be if he's if he's convicted.

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Speaker 10: Yes, And Nicholas Medoro was flanked by Barry Pollock of

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Speaker 10: Julian Assange. You know, he represented him along with Marty Tankleff,

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Speaker 10: who's accused of killing his parents in the eighties, and

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Speaker 10: high end lawyer. And he said that Meduro was a

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Speaker 10: victim of a military abduction during the arraignment, and you know,

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Speaker 10: Judge Hellerstein is in there, and he's the judge that

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Speaker 10: denied Trump to move the trial from state to federal

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Speaker 10: for the hush money. He also blocked the Alien Enemies

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Speaker 10: Act seventeen ninety eight to the portal ledger Trenda at Agua.

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Speaker 10: But this indictment has been going on for about fourteen

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Speaker 10: fifteen years in New York City with the Southern District here,

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Speaker 10: and it's just something to note that the judge asked

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Speaker 10: Nicholas Medoro and his wife if they wanted bail, and

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Speaker 10: Meduro said no, not at this time. They may put

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Speaker 10: an application in writing for that. Also a lot of

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Speaker 10: other things would discuss. He was informed of his rights

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Speaker 10: that he should know he can talk to his consulate

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Speaker 10: and others for communication purposes. The prosecution agreed to that,

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Speaker 10: but there's bigger issues here. This is part of the

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Speaker 10: twenty eleven Southern District case that Hellestine presided over. They

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Speaker 10: just convicted General Armando Caraval Barrios, right from the known

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Speaker 10: as El Poyo the Chicken. He worked with Hugo Chavez

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Speaker 10: and he was indicted and I don't know if he

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Speaker 10: cut a deal or not, but he might get life

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Speaker 10: in prison. But his sentencing is going to be next week.

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Speaker 10: And it's similar charges to Madora. Now, this was a

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Speaker 10: superseding indictment to the original indictment from Medora from twenty twenty,

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Speaker 10: which added charges. Added people into this, including Mado's son

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Speaker 10: and known as Nicolasito, and former Minister of Interior Justice

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Speaker 10: Ramon Madriguez Chequin and Hector Flores, who said that he

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Speaker 10: was a leader of Trendi a Agua. And I guess

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Speaker 10: they're trying to make the connection the prosecution here between

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Speaker 10: actual kidnappings and murder and human rights and all kinds

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Speaker 10: of other stuff, maybe even expanding the superseding and going forward.

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Speaker 10: I'm not sure, but they're trying to make that connection here.

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Speaker 1: And I remember that when the D and I put

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Speaker 1: out their report a while back.

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Speaker 5: Joe Kent.

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Speaker 1: This became a huge point of contention in the media

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Speaker 1: as to whether or not Maduro was directly operating and

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Speaker 1: executing trend de Iraqua's missions was you know, were they

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Speaker 1: acting on behalf of the regime or were they acting

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Speaker 1: with the support of the regime or simply with the

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Speaker 1: blessing of the regime. All of this of course, so

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Speaker 1: we see the charges narco terrorism, conspiracy, cocaine importation, conspiracy,

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Speaker 1: the weapons charges. So whether or not they're able to

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Speaker 1: prevent provide the evidence on this, we'll probably get back

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Speaker 1: to the heart of what Joe Kent was saying back

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Speaker 1: in that ode and I report to say that we

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Speaker 1: do have this connection.

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Speaker 5: Now the dj is going to have to put that together.

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Speaker 1: The Southern District of New York, of course, would be

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Speaker 1: able to do that as well. And you know, and

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Speaker 1: it certainly looks like you would be facing decades in

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Speaker 1: prison at the very least should he be should he

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Speaker 1: be found guilty on all this. David, do you know

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Speaker 1: when is the next When is their next hearing, when's

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Speaker 1: their next raiment?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, they're going to reconvene on March seventeenth. There's about

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Speaker 10: a sixty day reprieve here. I think they're going to

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Speaker 10: start the discovery process. We probably won't see trial date

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Speaker 10: for some time. Within that time, he may ask for bail.

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Speaker 10: I'm not sure. And just to note Jack that corruption

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Speaker 10: and violence, including selling of diplomatic passports to cartels and ordery,

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Speaker 10: kidnappings and murders are part of this indictment. Like you said, now,

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Speaker 10: they've got.

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Speaker 6: To prove it.

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Speaker 10: But a dramatic day in court here and Celia Flora's

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Speaker 10: claiming she received injuries and her lawyer saying she might

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Speaker 10: have a fracture during the arrest and that he needs

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Speaker 10: some help, Nicholas Madoro, he may have underlying medical conditions.

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Speaker 10: A lot going on inside the courthouse. Patrick moynihan courthouse here,

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Speaker 10: five hundred Pearl Street in Lower Manhattan.

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Speaker 1: All right, David Zier, thank you very much for your

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Speaker 1: intrepid reporting on.

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Speaker 5: A day that I know is a little bit chilly

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Speaker 5: up there in New York.

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Speaker 2: It's freezing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I could see your rosie che I know that Rob

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Speaker 1: Seke wasn't paying the makeup department to get those rosy

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Speaker 1: cheeks on. You know, that's the real thing. Baby. Thanks David,

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Man, I really appreciate it. So, folks, we

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Speaker 1: have to look at where we're at. We're in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the fourth turning. This is going on. This

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Speaker 1: is happening, whether you like it or not. The question

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Speaker 1: is there. We are a lot of people and I see

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Speaker 1: these emails and I'm gonna go back to them because

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Speaker 1: I want to pull this up a little bit. More

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Speaker 1: people saying, here's another one from Leon, I voted for

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Speaker 1: Trump three times. I want cheaper groceries, cheaper affordable housing,

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Speaker 1: closed borders, deep state arrests, no new wars.

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Speaker 5: It's that simple. So you're seeing this split.

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Speaker 1: You're seeing this disparity between people saying they like it,

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Speaker 1: they're not against it, but other people saying they don't

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Speaker 1: know whether or not this is direct in the direct

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Speaker 1: support of the American people. They want to know, what

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Speaker 1: do we get out of this? How does this help me?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 1: By the way, one thing I can certainly point you

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Speaker 1: to is that this is absolutely something that is going

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Speaker 1: to lead to lower gas prices. Should it all work right,

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Speaker 1: should it all work out, should it all take place?

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Speaker 1: And that dude over a gas buddy who always loses

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Speaker 1: his mind on me because he's such he's got such

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Speaker 1: bad Trump arrangement syndrome. So the guy, I don't if

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Speaker 1: you guys know gas Buddy the site. I've been in

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Speaker 1: this like Twitter war with this guy for like a year.

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Speaker 5: Now because every time because.

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Speaker 1: He went full panicing over the tariffs and he said

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Speaker 1: price increase alert, and gas Buddy pinned it to their site,

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Speaker 1: is all price increase alert.

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Speaker 5: You gotta be careful.

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Speaker 1: The gas prices are going to go way way up

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Speaker 1: because the tariffs is about a year ago now, right,

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Speaker 1: I think it was.

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Speaker 5: It was March.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it was March of five, and and I put

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Speaker 1: out I said, I don't think the gas prices are

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Speaker 1: going to rise, only you don't understand what you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: Because I'm the one who understands this. I'm the gas Buddy.

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Speaker 1: I'm the leader of the gas pace of like okay,

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Speaker 1: well we'll see what happens, man.

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Speaker 5: And what happened. Gas prices went down.

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Speaker 1: Everyone who was panicking over the tariffs was proven completely wrong.

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Speaker 1: Gas prices are currently down, I believe, under three dollars

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Speaker 1: across the country nationwide average, which by the way, you

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Speaker 1: can check on gas Buddy.

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Speaker 5: They'll do right now. Gas Buddy national average. Let's do it, boom.

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Speaker 1: Let's just see gas buddy national average, and we are

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Speaker 1: looking at two dollars eighty two cents, and that's the

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Speaker 1: highest two dollars eighty two cents. Two dollars seventy seven

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Speaker 1: cents is the lowest average we've seen that just over

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Speaker 1: the last couple of days.

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Speaker 5: It's sort of fluctuating, folks. Here's what it happens.

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Speaker 1: If that Venezuela and oil floods back onto the market,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna see gas prices go down again.

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Speaker 5: That'll help you directly, and that's going to lead to lower.

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Speaker 1: Groceries plus lower prices for housing because anything that's carried transport, lumber,

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Speaker 1: construction equipment, the building materials for houses, that's all going

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Speaker 1: to come down as well.

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Speaker 5: Now, none of this means.

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Speaker 1: That we should stop our focus on domestic policy and

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Speaker 1: be very clear about that. Main quest stay main quests.

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Speaker 1: Clean up the United States, Get the illegals out of here,

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Speaker 1: Get the people that are here on that are paper

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Speaker 1: Americans on these ridiculous visas, get them out as well.

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Speaker 1: America will be made great again, Ladies and gentlemen. As always,

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Speaker 1: you have my permission to lay sure