1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We're rolling 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: into the second hour, Thursday edition of the program. Encourage 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: you to go subscribe to the Clay and Buck podcast. 6 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 1: Also if you want to watch us on video, which 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: I'm told a lot of people do and do a 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: radio show on video. We are looking at you right now. 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: We are waving at you right now. 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We have been 17 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: talking about the OJ Simpson death at the age of 18 00:00:54,920 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: seventy six, discussing that era nineteen nine, nineteen ninety five, 19 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: when basically the OJ Simpson trial for the space of 20 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: about a year, took over everything. June sixteen, nineteen ninety four, 21 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: the White Bronco Chase. The next year, I believe sometime 22 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: in October nineteen ninety five, trial verdict O. J. Simpson 23 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: not guilty. He later goes to prison for seven years 24 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: for stealing back memorabilia, and he has died at the 25 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: age of seventy six. So so all of that is 26 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: underway big picture politically, We'll allow you, by the way, 27 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: to continue to call in eight hundred and two to 28 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 1: two eight A two. We'll take some of your calls 29 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: throughout the rest of the show. We're going to be 30 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: joined by Eric Hovdy from Wisconsin, who is running for 31 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: the Republican Senate seat there, the seat that is currently 32 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: held by Democrats. We'll talk with him at one point 33 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: thirty about thirty minutes from now, I believe on the 34 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: East coast time. But Arizona's a mess, buck, and let's 35 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: talk about the mess that is Arizona right now. I 36 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: think that Georgia Trump was yesterday as we talked about 37 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: and in a Chick fil A he was raising money 38 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 1: in Atlanta. I think Georgia is going to flip back red, 39 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: and I think Trump's gonna end up. You guys all 40 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: need to go vote but I think Trump is going 41 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: to end up winning Georgia comfortably in twenty twenty four. 42 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: I really do. 43 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: If that happens, that he needs to win basically two 44 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: more states. Arizona is a must win state. It's hard 45 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: to see how Trump can be elected president in twenty 46 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: twenty four without winning Arizona. Two days ago, in the 47 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: late afternoon, news came down that the Arizona Supreme Court, 48 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: in a four to two ruling, had said that there 49 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: is an eighteen sixty four Arizona law that will be 50 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: in effect that basically doesn't allow abortion except for life 51 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: of the mother. That is on hold presently. Other judges 52 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: are reviewing that. But in the present moment, things have 53 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: started to spiral a little bit out of control. And 54 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: I think we have some audio yesterday of what happened 55 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: in the Arizona legislature as things just completely fell apart, 56 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: and in particular, Joe Biden is already using this as 57 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: one of the full crumbs of his campaign. Here is 58 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: a new ad I want to play this for you 59 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: from Joe Biden, specifically focused on abortion, directly related to 60 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: the Arizona Supreme Court ruling. 61 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 2: Play cut one. 62 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: Because of Donald Trump millions of women lost the fundamental 63 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 3: freedom to control their own bodies, and now women's lives 64 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 3: are in danger because of that. 65 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: The question is, if Donald. 66 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: Trump gets back in power, what freedom will you lose next? 67 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 3: Your body and your decisions belong to you, not the government, 68 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 3: not Donald Trump. I will fight like hell to get 69 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 3: your freedom him back. I'm Joe Biden, and I approve. 70 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: This message. 71 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 4: That catholic and UH and super abortionist apparently all nine 72 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 4: months of a pregnancy federal funding for it. 73 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 5: Uh. 74 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 4: Forget about any efforts to even segregate funds from abortion 75 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 4: that come from federal dollars come from you, the taxpayer, 76 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 4: Joe Biden, the devout Catholic. It's it's you say it, 77 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 4: and you almost almost want to spit or laugh. I 78 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 4: don't know, but Clay, I think that the challenge in 79 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 4: Arizona is I think it's short term in so far 80 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 4: as once people see how the law shakes out will 81 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 4: be a very different you know, they'll they'll they'll know, right. 82 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 2: But in the meantime, there'll be a lot of fear mongering. 83 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: There'll be a lot of oh my. 84 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 4: Gosh, this is going to be an extreme Look Arizona, right, 85 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 4: now at the state level is not going to be 86 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 4: conducive to the laws that you have in say Tennessee 87 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 4: or or Texas when it comes to abortion right, that's 88 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,919 Speaker 4: just not going to happen. But in the meantime, based 89 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 4: on the population that votes in Arizona, maybe that will 90 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 4: change over time. In the meantime, it's an opportunity for 91 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 4: Democrats to write the narrative and to do so in 92 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 4: an extremely aggressive and dishonest way. And it's going to 93 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 4: be a challenge for Kerry Lake, who they've already attacked 94 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 4: for being on different sides. We'll have carry on next 95 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 4: week to be clear, We've already reached out to or 96 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 4: we want to talk to her about this, but she's 97 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 4: being attacked for being on multiple sides, specifically of the 98 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 4: eighteen sixty four law issue and where she draws the 99 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 4: line on all this. And you know, Clay, I talked 100 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 4: to my advisor from Sorry, my college advisor, Hadley Arkis 101 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 4: on the Buck Brief podcast that we put in the 102 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 4: podcast Network. Talked to him a couple of weeks ago, 103 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,799 Speaker 4: and he was involved in the early days in something 104 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 4: called the Born Alive Infants Protection Act, which protected the 105 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 4: life of a baby that survived a botched abortion, which 106 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 4: is a real thing, and people pretend it is not 107 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 4: a real thing because they don't want to deal with 108 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 4: that reality. But it is very much a real thing. 109 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 4: I think Republicans are way too much on the back 110 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 4: foot on this issue. They're just saying, look, we're not 111 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 4: going to do the extreme thing on our side. We're 112 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 4: not going to do the extreme thing in some of 113 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 4: these states, right or whatever it's considered the extreme thing. 114 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 4: Where's the counter messaging for? You know, the other side 115 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 4: thinks that a baby in the ninth month is not. 116 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 2: A baby, right. They argue that they believe that they 117 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 2: pass laws to that effect. 118 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: And my concern is just that Democrats don't want to 119 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: actually get this situation resolved and that there will be 120 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: this is my This is my concern. 121 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 2: There will be no resolution to this even Yeah, and 122 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 2: so if they. 123 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: Can run again, I think you have to think strategically 124 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: if you are Joe Biden. Bidenomics has fallen on its 125 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: face the border. He's going to try, potentially, i'm sure 126 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: you've been reading to maybe he's going to try to 127 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: say that he's executed some sort of executive authority that 128 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: he could have used years ago. He's not going to 129 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: solve anything at the border. Crime rates are at twenty 130 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: first century highs, and violent crime is at all time 131 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: highs in many different cities, and if it's not in 132 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: an all time high, it's down a minuscule amount. 133 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: It's up substantially everywhere. 134 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,119 Speaker 1: Since twenty twenty, we got double wars in the Middle 135 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: East and in Europe that are unlikely to be totally resolved. 136 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: So he's gonna run on abortion. 137 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: I think he's kind of cut his legs out from 138 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: underneath him on the democracy as at stake. That might 139 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: still motivate some people, but I think what you saw 140 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: and what you just heard from that advertisement, this is 141 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: ultimately going to be all he's got. And so my 142 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: concern is in a state like Arizona, that might be 143 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: enough for him to win Arizona, and if he does, 144 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: he's probably gonna win the presidency in twenty four I 145 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: don't see the map working out very well where Trump 146 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: can lose Arizona and win the election. That's where people 147 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: is like, oh, you're suddenly pessimistic. Yeah, this is a 148 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: big deal, and I think people need to recognize it 149 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: as a big deal. The math becomes very difficult for 150 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: Trump if he doesn't weigh Arizona. 151 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 4: The legislature is lively in the state of Arizona over 152 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 4: this issue. We have a clip from it. This is 153 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 4: cut twenty nine. Play This is Arizona State legislature on 154 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 4: this abortion issue. Play so you get the idea they're 155 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 4: shouting shame is this issue is very is very contentious. 156 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 4: You know, there's a part of me that just feels 157 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 4: sad for a country that's even in a place where 158 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 4: what the presidency could theoretically be delivered to Joe Biden 159 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 4: for four more years because so many basically because so 160 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 4: many young women or you know, women of child bearing age, 161 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 4: have been convinced that the right to abort their baby 162 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 4: is more important than safety on the streets, the economy, 163 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 4: the price of groceries, immigration, you know, you know, it's 164 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 4: it's a very tragic place for the country to be. 165 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 4: It is where the country unfortunately sits right now. I 166 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 4: agree with you that at Arizona there's going to be 167 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 4: a problem Democrats, don't they They don't want to fix 168 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 4: this because what would that even mean. I think that also, 169 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 4: this is going to be a long This is going 170 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 4: to be a long battle. And that's why the people 171 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 4: that are advocating for this, like like I do, and 172 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 4: have been and Ran Paul. At the state level, the 173 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 4: goal is the twenty one states that are more restrictive 174 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 4: than row people foster a culture of life, and in 175 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 4: other states they see that. It turns out, you know, 176 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 4: the Tennessee approach is better than the California approach that 177 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 4: you know, preserving life to the greatest degree, to the 178 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 4: greatest degree possible on whatever that's going to mean in 179 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 4: some of these states will be interesting. You know, is 180 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 4: it life of the mother at rape incest only? Is there? 181 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 2: Is it six weeks? Is it twelve? It was six 182 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 2: weeks in Florida? 183 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 4: Right, This will play out the ideas that over time 184 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 4: time more and more of the country will embrace a 185 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 4: culture of life. And that's why I trying to come 186 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 4: over the top politically with the federal law. This is 187 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 4: what Ran Paul was saying yesterday. It's it's problematic politically, 188 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 4: and I think it's also problematic constitutionally. And then what 189 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 4: you just create is okay, well, we're gonna have a 190 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 4: seesaw back and forth. The federal law says twelve months 191 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 4: twelve weeks. The federal law says six weeks. The federal 192 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 4: know that's that's going to be where the fight is. 193 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 4: And I think that it's better left to the states 194 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 4: over the long term. Now, in the short term, I 195 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 4: think this puts Arizona in a very precarre. Two things 196 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 4: make Arizona difficult, by the way, the Republicans who did 197 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 4: not vote for Carrie Lake the last time around because 198 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 4: of the John McCain yep, you know, respect for Trump 199 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 4: as well for Trump. And this is just folks, this 200 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 4: is just a reality. We can see the party registrations, 201 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 4: we can see how the vote, we can see how 202 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 4: the votes piled up. They did not react well to 203 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 4: Carry Lake saying if you voted for John McCain, I 204 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 4: don't care if you've for me. 205 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: That was not a smart thing. She knows that. 206 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 4: Now she's she's trying to make amends with McCain camp, 207 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 4: so to speak. And now the abortion iss you play 208 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 4: this is I'm with you. I'm not worried about Georgia 209 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 4: for Trump or for the Republicans in general. Arizona. This 210 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 4: is concerning right now. 211 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,839 Speaker 1: This is a challenge, yeah, and it needs to get 212 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: resolved and The other part of this that's the challenge 213 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: is I don't think Democrats want to fix it. I 214 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: also think there are some Republicans that don't want to 215 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: fix it either. And by fixing, I mean they're so 216 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: committed to they agree with the eighteen sixty four policy. 217 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: And so that becomes a challenge too, because there are 218 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: some I don't want. 219 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 4: To see the if they think the law is the 220 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 4: right law, it's tough to get them to say. And 221 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 4: from their perspective, it's how many lives will be saved 222 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 4: in the state of Arizona if we dig in on this, 223 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 4: and what's the value, what's the value of that versus 224 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 4: the value politically. Look, these are very tough, contentious because 225 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 4: you are you're blending. You know, you're you're doing a 226 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 4: balancing act of saving life in me idiately versus having 227 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 4: the political power to save more life in the long run. 228 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 2: And you know this is not easy. 229 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 4: This is why you have Republicans are split on the 230 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 4: best way to approach this. 231 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why I think it's going to be 232 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: a complicated factor. And again I would just say basic math, 233 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: it's almost impossible for Trump to be elected president if 234 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: he doesn't win Arizona, and. 235 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 2: You can sketch sketch one together, right. 236 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: I mean he could sweep Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin, or 237 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: win two out of those three in Nevada and Georgia. Look, 238 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: the math can be messed with. I think in the 239 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: challenge becomes very very You're fighting a massive uphill battle 240 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: if you don't win Arizona, because I think the likelihood 241 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: is if you can't win Arizona, it's unlikely you're going 242 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: to do that well in the Midwest either, because there 243 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: are and is some connection in terms of how the 244 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: percentages vote nationwide. 245 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 2: We'll discuss that. 246 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 1: We'll continue to break down the fallout OJ Simpson dying 247 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: and many people wanting to react to that at breaking 248 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,599 Speaker 1: news about forty five minutes before we came on the 249 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: air today. 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Ruben Diego Representative Gyego, who's running 287 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 4: against our friend Carrie Lake, is trying to capitalize on this. 288 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 4: CNN of course, providing the platform right away to try 289 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 4: to get ahead of the messaging on this one. This 290 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 4: is cut four. It's Ruben Diego setting the narrative as 291 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 4: quickly as he can for Arizona. 292 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: Here play it. 293 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: Do you believe Donald Trump when he says that he 294 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: won't sign a federal abortion ban? 295 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 5: Oh? 296 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely not. 297 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 6: You can't trust any of them. 298 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 7: Can't trust Carry Lake, who's already flip flop twice and 299 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 7: lied about supporting a band that would you know, Jill 300 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 7: nurses and doctors provided abortions and let alone all the 301 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 7: other things they can do, such as stopping abortion pills, 302 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 7: which are also used by sixty. 303 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 2: Percent of women. 304 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 7: We cannot trust them, cannot take our chances. We did 305 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 7: take our chances, and that's how I ended up getting 306 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 7: these Supreme Court justices that ended up banning abortion play. 307 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 4: You know, individual states are being left to determine this 308 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 4: based on or That's that's what Trump is saying, That's 309 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 4: what Center Round Paul said yesterday. But I would add 310 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 4: a part of this, and I think You've been focused 311 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 4: on for a while, and my old friend, Professor Arcis 312 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 4: is focused on too, which is it shouldn't just be 313 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 4: what I've been saying, which is, okay, the states are 314 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 4: where they should be decided. It should be the states 315 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 4: or where they should be decided. And Democrats are extreme lunatics. 316 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 2: On this issue. Nowhere else. 317 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 4: The only other countries in the world that have the 318 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 4: same kind of abortion regimes as the Democrat Party in 319 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 4: America are China and North Korea. 320 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, nowhere else. 321 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,240 Speaker 4: Nowhere else would an abortion in the third term even 322 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 4: be considered. Republicans are running scared on this issue. They 323 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 4: have to turn this around, even if they're going to 324 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 4: go with the States issue. Yeah, it's a real failure 325 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 4: of communication. And I talked about this because I think 326 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 4: it is eye opening to a lot of people. France, 327 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 4: who I think many people out there would say France 328 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 4: varied libertine country, very left leading, admitting respects. France has 329 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 4: a abortion law that they just put on their books 330 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 4: which allows abortion in the first fourteen or fifteen weeks. 331 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,879 Speaker 4: Our blue states allow nine month abortion. 332 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: So you think of and I think of France and say, okay, 333 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: like that's a very sort of lase fair to use 334 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: a French phrase, libertine to get a French phrase a lot. 335 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: They're way more restrictive on your abortion than California or 336 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: New York are. And so the inability to pivot on 337 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: this and go from Look, states can decide where they 338 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: want the line to be drawn. 339 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 4: The radical position is the Democrat one. Republicans are being 340 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 4: run into a corner on this one by people who 341 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 4: are advocating for infanticide as a legal regime. They want 342 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 4: to be able to abort a baby in the third Crimus, 343 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 4: this isn't even in the conversation. How is this not 344 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 4: in the conversation? No, I agree, And Arizona has got 345 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:55,719 Speaker 4: to figure this out. 346 00:17:55,800 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: It's a Republican controlled legislature, Democrat governor will see whether 347 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,479 Speaker 1: anything can get resolved there. New movie coming to theaters tomorrow, 348 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: Civil War. It's a fictional portrayal of our country in 349 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: real turmoil. One you'd want to see in theaters. 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He could be one of 367 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: the seats that flips to give Republicans control of the Senate. 368 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: He is a fourth generation Wisconsin height is that the 369 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: right phrase? We'll find out. And he lives right now 370 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 1: in Madison. By the way, I think I'm gonna try 371 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: to get up to watch the Alabama Wisconsin game in 372 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: Madison in September. It should be a pretty awesome scene. 373 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: I bet you will be there as part of the campaign. 374 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: Eric Hovedy joins us, Now, what is it going to be? 375 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 6: Like? 376 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 2: What do you think? 377 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: And when Alabama rolls into your hometown of Madison, that's 378 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: a pretty big game. 379 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 6: It's gonna be rocky. Camp Randall is one of the 380 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 6: best spots to watch a college football game. And I'm 381 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 6: being totally serious about that. I'm not just talking my 382 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 6: school up. But it's in a community instead of surrounded 383 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 6: by a giant parking lot. You've got Regent Street, all 384 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 6: the bars, You've got people that set up selling bratwurst 385 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 6: and beer. I've had season tickets there for geez thirty 386 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 6: plus years, right on the forty five yard line. My 387 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 6: dad had them before me, since the early sixties. It's 388 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 6: a ball and when Alabama comes running out, people will 389 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 6: be screaming and yelling. It's gonna be a hell of 390 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 6: a great game. 391 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: All right, I agree with you. 392 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: I'm actually curious though, So you had the season tickets 393 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 1: for years and years, You're right there near midfield. 394 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 2: You're going to be all in on the Badgers. 395 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: How do you balance campaigning when you also really really 396 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: care about the game that's going on. 397 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 6: That's gonna be tough. But there's no way I'm going 398 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 6: to miss Alabama running out on the Camp Randle Stadium 399 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 6: onto the field. So and there's gonna be some great 400 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 6: Packer games because I'm so hyped up about the Packers 401 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 6: this year. You know, we're the favorite right now in 402 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 6: Vegas odds to win the Super Bowl. So look, I'm 403 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 6: just gonna have to schedule around it. Will I be 404 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 6: able to go to every game? No, But you know 405 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 6: there's a couple I just gotta you know, X out 406 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 6: and you know I'll be shaking hands and seeing people 407 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 6: and all the rest, and having a couple of Bruskis 408 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 6: along with it, No doubt. 409 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 2: Sounds awesome already. Hey Eric, it's it's Buck. Tell us. 410 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 4: Why you're going to be able to beat Tammy Baldwin, 411 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 4: the incumbent Democrat this time around, and just give us 412 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 4: a sense as to how you'll represent the great people 413 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 4: of Wisconsin differently from what she has aligned herself with. 414 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 6: Look, Kemmy Baldwin is a career politician, thirty eight years 415 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 6: in politics. He literally came out of school, ran for 416 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 6: not city council, county council, then went on to the Assembly, 417 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 6: then the Congress, and then the Senate. Everything she votes 418 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 6: for is wrong. You know, she voted for everything that 419 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 6: Joe Biden wanted. She infects you votes with them ninety 420 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 6: five point five percent of the time. Think of how 421 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 6: crazy that is. You know, I love my wife, We've 422 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 6: been together for over thirty years. We don't agree on 423 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 6: everything ninety five point five percent of the time. And 424 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 6: they sure couldn't see how ebod he would even agree 425 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 6: with Joe Biden ten percent at the time. So I'm 426 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 6: just going to point out the facts of you know, 427 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 6: she voted for you know, four point seven trillion dollars 428 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 6: of additional government spending that helped ignite inflation. You know, 429 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 6: she has been wrong on the border. I have an 430 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 6: add up right now on the border, and our state 431 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 6: is really being affected now by what's happening over the 432 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 6: border on multiple different levels. She actually not only supported 433 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 6: Obama when he did is Iranian deal, but when Joe 434 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 6: Biden went to double down on a really bad thing, 435 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 6: because we know the negative consequences of that first deal, 436 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 6: how isis and all the proism that exploded after he 437 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 6: gave Iran all that catch, Biden goes doubles down on 438 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 6: that same thing as Cammy Baldwin's there to support that. 439 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 6: So she's a career politician. She knows nothing about the economy, 440 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 6: how the economy works. She's totally bought off by special interests. 441 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 6: Her Senate office as a revolving door of lobbyists, and 442 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 6: she takes all the special interest money. She actually earmark 443 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 6: in the last budget four hundred thousand dollars for a 444 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 6: transgender affirming clinic that doesn't even tell parents that they're 445 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 6: doing that with their own kids. Now, think of that. 446 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 6: I mean, this is how far out there she is. Now. 447 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,239 Speaker 6: She runs in our status you know, I'm moderate and 448 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 6: tries to position herself that way. But she's one of 449 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 6: the three most progressive senators. And if I can win 450 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 6: this seat. Not only will that assure that, you know, 451 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 6: the Senate will flip for the next two years, but 452 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 6: it's really the next four to six years because the 453 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 6: next couple election cycles are more difficult for Republicans. So 454 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 6: this is such a critical seat to pull back for 455 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 6: you know, common sense approach to government. 456 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: What do you Your race is not the same as 457 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's race, but you are going to be connected 458 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: to a certain extent. Ron Johnson won in twenty twenty two, 459 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,199 Speaker 1: six years more as a senator, so certainly people are 460 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: receptive to what he argues. How do you see a 461 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 1: presidential election year, Certainly turnout is going to be up, 462 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,959 Speaker 1: impacting the overall pathway for you to take back the 463 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 1: Senate through this win. 464 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, right now, Well, let's back up. In twenty twenty, 465 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 6: Donald Trump lost the election by twenty thousand vote out, 466 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 6: if we'll call it, three million voters that will show 467 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 6: off them vote So it was a hair by a hair. 468 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 6: But we have six of our eight congressional seats are Republican. 469 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 6: Our state Senate's the supermajority Republican. Our state Assembly is 470 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 6: almost a supermajority. So there is about sixty thousand voters 471 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 6: that would vote for a Republican state senator or congressional 472 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 6: officer assemblyman that didn't vote for Donald Trump. Two thirds 473 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 6: of more women, a third of mar college educated men. 474 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 6: So you know, look, I'm going to be talking to 475 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 6: everybody in our state because I believe in Ronald Reagan's 476 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 6: broad end strategy. But I will also be messaging to 477 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,239 Speaker 6: those people and you know, talking about the issues that 478 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 6: hopefully matter to them to get them to vote for 479 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 6: me like they did for other Republican congressional and state 480 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 6: senate races. The other thing I'm doing is a lot 481 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 6: of times Republicans just go about, you know, turning out 482 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 6: their own base. I believe we got to push the 483 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 6: map like Reagan did. I've been in the minority community 484 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 6: these both the Black community and the Hispanic community, talking 485 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 6: to them. I'm telling you there's a major shift going 486 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 6: on there because these people had been hammered by the 487 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 6: inflation and the open borders and immigration and what's happening there. 488 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 6: I'm taking by in Madison. You know, I was born there, 489 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 6: raised there, had a business there for twenty five years. 490 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 6: You know, that is my home, That's where I live, 491 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 6: and I've given to more charities than all but a 492 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 6: handful of people in the Madison market. So I'm going 493 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,719 Speaker 6: to compete there, but I'm going to talk to everybody 494 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 6: across the state because our country is in trouble. Look, 495 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 6: we're losing the American dream for far too many people, 496 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 6: and it's scary how much damage the Left has done 497 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 6: to our country in such a short amount of time. 498 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 6: And we're speaking and we have to take back this country. 499 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 4: We're speaking to Eric Hovedy. He's running for the US 500 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,400 Speaker 4: Senate seat that is currently held by Tammy Baldwin and Wisconsin. 501 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 2: It's going to be a very important race. Just one 502 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 2: more for you, Eric. 503 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 4: My understanding is, you know, when you think of Wisconsin 504 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 4: as a border state, most people would think, well, yeah, 505 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 4: I guess you know Canada. But you are a border 506 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 4: state in more ways too, because there are people that 507 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 4: are being these elite immigrants that are coming into the 508 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 4: country are being moved by the federal government of your state, 509 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 4: including into some small towns. Can you tell us what's 510 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 4: going on with that. 511 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 6: It's happening in small towns all over. I'll give you 512 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 6: an example. Whitewater, Wisconsin's a town of about thirteen thousand citizens, 513 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 6: They dropped a thousand illegal immigrants overnight there, So what's happened. 514 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 6: Where do you house these people? They don't have the 515 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 6: housing for them, so they're putting them all over the place. 516 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 6: Access to healthcare, This is a real crisis in our country. 517 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 6: People are struggling to get access to healthcare even before 518 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 6: this immigration wave, and now it's made it really acute. 519 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 6: It's blown up the Whitewater's budget. I mean almost immediately. 520 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 6: How does the city that now has to take care 521 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 6: of another thousand people that isn't generating revenue for them 522 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 6: any taxes. It's just a big cought. So their budgets 523 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 6: upside down literally immediately, where before their budget it's in 524 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 6: a good position. But this is happening in small towns 525 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 6: all over. I was just talking to somebody who said 526 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,959 Speaker 6: this was happening in another even smaller town in northern 527 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 6: Wisconsin where all these Nicaraguans came in. Nobody knows how 528 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 6: to speak to them. They don't where to put housing, 529 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 6: Where do you get them into schools? You don't even 530 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 6: have the teachers to the school of them. So we've 531 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 6: got a crisis on our hand. And you know the 532 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 6: other thing Wisconsin has been very impacted, like all over 533 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,719 Speaker 6: our country about the fentanyl and opiate crisis. You know, 534 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 6: we lost what is it, one hundred and twelve thousand 535 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 6: Americans last year to this crisis. Most of them are young. 536 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 6: It's the leading cause of death for Americans between the 537 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 6: ages of eighteen and forty five. And all those drugs 538 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 6: pour over our southern quarter. So on every single level, 539 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 6: this has been negative to our country, to the people 540 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 6: of Wisconsin, and it needs to be shut down and stopped. 541 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 2: Eric Hovedy everybody, Eric, what's your website? 542 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 4: Because you're gonna need some help to beat Tammy Tammy Baldwin. 543 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 6: Eric e Ric pubbdhov is In, Victory d Is and 544 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 6: David e Is and Edwards ericobde dot com. I appreciate 545 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 6: anybody and everybody's involvement because look, we got to take 546 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 6: back our country. We got to save America. So thank 547 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 6: you both of you guys. It's great being on your show. 548 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 2: Thanks, Eric, appreciate it. 549 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 5: You. 550 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 4: We're gonna be rooting for you and talking to you 551 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 4: more as it gets closer. You know, we discuss here 552 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 4: because it's in the news. It's so important. Right now, 553 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 4: people are getting behind on their credit card bills. It's 554 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 4: a big problem because groceries are what thirty percent more expensive? 555 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 4: Thanks Biden, Well, what can you do about it? Yeah, sure, 556 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 4: we have to be aware of this and we want 557 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 4: to change things politically. 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And you know, Clay, 584 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 2: I don't even think you've seen this yet. 585 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 4: We've just got our first mock up, the Crocket Coffee 586 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 4: T shirt. There you go, show my face a little bit. 587 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 4: There we go, Crocket Coffee. I'm gonna be wearing this 588 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,719 Speaker 4: the next one. I just got it in the box 589 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 4: in the mail. 590 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 2: We got our mugs. 591 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 4: Crocketcoffee dot Com. Join the Crockett Revolution, my friends. We 592 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 4: are getting it going here for history, for frontier spirit, 593 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 4: for America. A lot a lot to discuss with all that. 594 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 4: And please, if you do a bigger order, you get 595 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 4: free shipping. If you subscribe, you get fifteen percent off, 596 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 4: So get yourself a nice big order. The coffee is amazing. 597 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 4: Everyone's like, oh my god, it tastes so good. I'm like, yes, 598 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 4: because we would only sell We're only selling great stuff. 599 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 4: That's one of our baseline rules here. Anything that we're 600 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 4: involved in as a commercial venture, we want to be 601 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 4: the highest quality. So again, go to Crockett Coffee dot 602 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 4: Com and get that going. And Clay and I are 603 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 4: both drinking it right here. It's fantastic. 604 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: If you want, I would off your mourning loving America, 605 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: you should be starting it off drinking Crockett coffee. 606 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 2: Like we did. 607 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I just if people want to go to the 608 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 4: grocery store and put their dollars into the machinery of communism. 609 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 4: That's some of these multinational conglomerates or you know Starbucks 610 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 4: these days is basically a left wing enterprise that's funding 611 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 4: a lot of the Democrat policies and Democrat ideas. 612 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 2: Our books is donating. 613 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: Look, I understand, you go to Starbucks, you go, you're 614 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: driving down the road or whatever. They're sending money from 615 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: their profits to fund the gender reassignment surgeries yep, for teenagers. 616 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: So I understand, like you like the coffee, but they're 617 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: using money they make from you to have teenagers have 618 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: gender reassignment surgery. If you think that's wrong, would you 619 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: want your money to go to that? 620 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 2: I wouldn't. 621 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: I would like my money to go to companies that 622 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: actually love Amerage share your values yet. 623 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, because remember we're also in partnership with Tunnel that 624 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 4: Towers Foundation, so a portion of our proceeds goes to 625 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 4: Tunnel to Towers and so you know, we want to 626 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 4: build this up to be a company that's doing millions 627 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 4: and millions of dollars in coffee sales, and we want 628 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 4: to be giving millions and millions of dollars over time 629 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 4: to Tunnel to Towers Foundation. That is our plan. So 630 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 4: we're looking forward to getting all that stuff going. We 631 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 4: also have a bunch of calls that I wanted us 632 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 4: to get to and some vip emails. Clay, what have 633 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 4: you got in front of you? Because my window just froze. 634 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 2: Let's go to Uh yeah, let's see here. I threw Clay. 635 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 4: Usually one of us has all the calls screened up, 636 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 4: but we do the back and forth. I threw him 637 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 4: on the spot. So domin two different people, Dominic and Fresno. 638 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 4: Let's get one of us has to have the com dominic. 639 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 2: What do you got Hello? 640 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 5: Can you hear me? 641 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? I gotcha? 642 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 5: Okay, cool I you said there were too dominant, So 643 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 5: I just want to make sure with me you're talking 644 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 5: to you, uh, Faith, I thanks for get my call. 645 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 5: First time list I mean first time call her a 646 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 5: long time listener. I just I know earlier in the 647 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 5: show you were talking about the OJ Simpson case, and 648 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 5: I just was sharing with your screen caller that at 649 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 5: that particular time, I was working for the law firm 650 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 5: that had the evidence for OJ Simpson case. So we 651 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 5: had all the evidence and we knew from the evidence 652 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 5: he killed her. I mean, it was conclusive, there was 653 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 5: no doubt that he killed her. But we knew in 654 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 5: the system he wasn't going to be voted guilty. We 655 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,960 Speaker 5: knew he was going to be voted not guilty. And 656 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 5: so when that happened that it was just like our 657 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 5: hearts kind of thing because it was just it was 658 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 5: just it was there was no argument. The evidence was 659 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 5: too concrete that he did kill her, you know, and 660 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 5: it was just I think I was in my twenties. 661 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 5: I was in my twenties at that time, so it 662 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 5: was just heartbreaking to see our justice system not be 663 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 5: about truth and justice. Yeah, it was about I guess 664 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 5: who's ever popular, whoever's got the most money or something, 665 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 5: because it was just how could you, that's to say, 666 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,720 Speaker 5: follow the evidence, and the evidence proved beyond a shadow 667 00:34:58,719 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 5: of a doubt he did. 668 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 2: Look. Yeah, thank you for the call. I appreciate it. 669 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 1: Oj had celebrity privilege, he had black privilege, he had 670 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: wealth privilege, and all of those things worked in his 671 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: favor to allow him to avoid responsibility for his actions. 672 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 4: I honestly think that the jury should feel a deep 673 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 4: and abiding shame. I mean, I'm sorry, it's just it's 674 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 4: how I feel. I think that anyone who was on 675 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 4: that jury who acquitted him should feel absolutely ashamed of 676 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:29,280 Speaker 4: that decision. 677 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 2: That should carry that. 678 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: Do you remember the jury foreband. I believe it was 679 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 1: the jury forebid one of the jurors, but I think 680 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: it was a jury foreman. As they read the verdict, 681 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: gave the black power hand salute. 682 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean it was. It was appalling. 683 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 4: The whole thing was the whole thing was an appalling display. 684 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 4: The acquittal were the arguments about how this was a 685 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 4: you know, makeup call for Rodney King, and it was 686 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 4: all he murdered two people, one of them he didn't 687 00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 4: even know, and the other was the mother of his 688 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 4: childre if you're not going to put somebody like that 689 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 4: in prison, you have no sense of morality whatsoever. Absolutely 690 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,439 Speaker 4: not so kase anyone's wondering how I feel about this well, 691 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 4: And he also never requested any forgiveness. 692 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: Redemption took responsibility for his actions. Remember, once he was 693 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: not guilty, he could never be tried again. He could 694 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 1: have come out and said, you know what I did it, 695 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 1: I got away with it. May God have mercy on 696 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,120 Speaker 1: my soul. They couldn't have put him in prison for 697 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,560 Speaker 1: that because of double jeopardy. He never said it. And 698 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 1: again we were talking about it early in the first hour. 699 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 1: We'll take some of your calls probably on this and 700 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: other issues in the third hour. To my knowledge, again, 701 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 1: he died in a hospice care. He had months to 702 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: recon you know, think through the process by which he 703 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: was going to pass. And it doesn't seem that he 704 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 1: ever sought forgiveness for his crimes.