WEBVTT - “I MAY HAVE SOLD YOU DRUGS IN HIGH SCHOOL” 

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<v Speaker 1>Well, hello, Hey, what's up man?

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<v Speaker 2>Dude?

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<v Speaker 3>I just wanted to say, like, I remember you used

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<v Speaker 3>to do our morning announcements.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, you met, You sent me a text and you

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<v Speaker 1>said I wanted to talk about how you used to

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<v Speaker 1>do the morning announcements at our school. Yeah, yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>a gecko. Uh yeah, I went to Franklin High School.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh back in weren't you used to dude, they used

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<v Speaker 3>to do our morning announcements.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I used to do the morning announcements of Franklin

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<v Speaker 1>High School back in two thousand, shit those ten years ago. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fucking crazy, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you're a gecko, now, my gecko.

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<v Speaker 2>That's insane.

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<v Speaker 3>That's so inspirational, and you could be anything you ever

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<v Speaker 3>want to.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, what did you say? Did you think I

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<v Speaker 1>was good at the morning announcements?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I thought you were pretty solid at it. I thought

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<v Speaker 3>you going to like a new station or something, but

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<v Speaker 3>you did it your own way.

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<v Speaker 4>What.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't don't give you your last name, but what's

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<v Speaker 1>your first name? I don't know who you are?

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<v Speaker 2>Dan? Daniel?

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck, I actually actually have no idea who you are.

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<v Speaker 2>Dan.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you were you graduated like I think a year

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<v Speaker 3>or two before I did. I graduated twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, do we know each other?

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<v Speaker 3>You probably know my older cousin.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your older cousin's first name?

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<v Speaker 2>Alan?

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<v Speaker 1>Did your older cousin once throw a huge party? Dude?

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<v Speaker 3>That was he did once?

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<v Speaker 1>Were you were you there?

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<v Speaker 2>I was not. He actually dicked me. He didn't invite me.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't fucking invite you. I don't think he invited me.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I just showed up.

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<v Speaker 3>He just dicked me. I live right down the street too.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of touched off.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a legend. That was a legendary party. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember showing up at that party and feeling like it's

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the weirdest I've felt in my whole Some of

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<v Speaker 1>the weirdest I've ever felt in my whole life is

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<v Speaker 1>like being at like a college party where I can

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<v Speaker 1>not a cost the high school party, where like I

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<v Speaker 1>could see other people like who were good at socializing

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<v Speaker 1>and like being whatever. I was so nervous. I was

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<v Speaker 1>just like standing in I remember, just like I was

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<v Speaker 1>at the party. I was just standing in one spot,

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<v Speaker 1>just trying really hard to like get through the night

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<v Speaker 1>or find someone that I knew that I could talk

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<v Speaker 1>to just to like get through the night. I used

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<v Speaker 1>to be really bad. I used to be a little bit. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I used to just like not know how to just

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<v Speaker 1>inhabit space. I had so much social anxiety. And then

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<v Speaker 1>what happens is, over the course of the next ten years,

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<v Speaker 1>I slowly realized that uh uh, nothing and no one

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<v Speaker 1>matters at all, And now I have and now I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have enough social anxiety. I actually need more to

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<v Speaker 1>prevent myself from uh uh, annoying someone by talking to them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not true. I actually I do. I do still

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<v Speaker 1>have social anxiety in some situations, but less of in

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<v Speaker 1>less of a like, No, that's not true. I have

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<v Speaker 1>social anxiety in some situations. I was recently in a

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<v Speaker 1>situation where I had some social anxiety. But I also

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<v Speaker 1>I don't social this is I don't. I've kind of

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<v Speaker 1>come to the conclusion. I've come to the conclusion that

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<v Speaker 1>I am correct in all of my social interactions, not

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<v Speaker 1>in the sense of like I'm like right about everything,

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<v Speaker 1>but that as long as I'm not being a dick, like,

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<v Speaker 1>however our interaction goes is fine. Like if I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>little awkward or if I'm a little cringey or whatever, like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine. I'm still I'm valid in my own existence

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<v Speaker 1>as a human being, and so I don't there's no

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<v Speaker 1>way for me to embarrass myself in front of someone.

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<v Speaker 1>There's only like, there's only like I like, if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like being a dick or if I'm being rude, that's different.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's no way for me to like be annoying.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I could, you could be annoying, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>still if you're annoying, you can still be correct and

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<v Speaker 1>valid in your existence. Do you know what I do?

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<v Speaker 1>You get what I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 3>I do get what you're saying. It's it's deep. It's

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<v Speaker 3>like if you're if you're trying to just speak your arm,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and like you're not being disrespectful, Like there's

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<v Speaker 3>no way you could be wrong technically.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly right, exactly because the social anxiety comes from like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>people are judging me, and it's like, well, judging you

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<v Speaker 1>on what you know, what the.

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<v Speaker 3>Dress up as a get go for the first time?

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<v Speaker 3>What inspired that?

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<v Speaker 2>Wait?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you doing now, Daniel? What do you what

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<v Speaker 1>do you what did you grow up to be?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I'm accounting, but I just got fired.

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<v Speaker 1>So, oh, you get why'd you get fired?

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<v Speaker 3>I said it was performance related, but it was really

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<v Speaker 3>I think because I took.

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<v Speaker 2>Some time off work.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, well, yeah, they probably weren't happy about it around this.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you take? What did you take time off

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<v Speaker 1>to do?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>How do I explain the how do you I spent

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<v Speaker 3>some I spent some time in jail. Let's just let's

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<v Speaker 3>just say that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, okay, is that related to why you got fired?

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<v Speaker 3>Probably they said it was performance related, but I mean

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<v Speaker 3>you take some time off and uh, you know you're

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<v Speaker 3>performance really in it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean when you say you took some time off,

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<v Speaker 1>did you like call out of work for personal reasons

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<v Speaker 1>and not explain why? Like how long were you in

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<v Speaker 1>jail for?

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<v Speaker 3>No? Yeah, like I told him, Hey, I got some

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<v Speaker 3>personal stuff going on, like I had to messag, jump

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<v Speaker 3>off my laptop.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, So how long were you in jail for? For?

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<v Speaker 3>Like ten days?

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<v Speaker 2>It was a fun experience at all.

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<v Speaker 3>I highly recommend that not be a good experience and

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<v Speaker 3>not to go there.

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<v Speaker 1>What hap what happens?

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<v Speaker 2>What happened?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I really don't want to talk about the

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<v Speaker 3>details because the storm.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going, well, you don't have to, but like can

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<v Speaker 1>I what what? What can we hear? Because I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>we I feel like I gotta know some I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean, like long story short, like a domestic situation where

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<v Speaker 3>my ex started breaking things and called the cops and

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<v Speaker 3>I was when I got in trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right. I thought I thought I would have

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<v Speaker 1>thought I would I I knowing, I thought you were.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you were trapping.

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<v Speaker 3>No no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I did

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<v Speaker 3>that back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that runs of the family.

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<v Speaker 3>Not in the family, No, just just the mind, dumb

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<v Speaker 3>ass on.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought your cousin trapped?

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, what were you?

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<v Speaker 1>Were you trapping? In high school?

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Here and there Ermin and German?

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<v Speaker 1>Did I ever buy weed? Did I ever buy weed

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<v Speaker 1>for you in high school?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember. I really don't it.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe who who did you sell weed to? In high school?

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<v Speaker 1>Give me their full name. Don't give me their full name,

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<v Speaker 1>give me their first name.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a lot of people that were like, I don't,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, like I don't, I don't even like

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<v Speaker 3>it's so long ago, I don't even remember. Like everyone

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<v Speaker 3>it was a lot of different random people from all

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<v Speaker 3>took me really to the random at parts of Maryland,

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<v Speaker 3>a farm where I myself in like Prell County.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I be? Can I actually be honest with you?

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<v Speaker 3>Be something?

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<v Speaker 1>So when I was in high school, I had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of friends who trapped, and it always that was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of that actually might still to this day be

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<v Speaker 1>one of my great aspiration. I mean, it's never gonna

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<v Speaker 1>come to It's another lifetime, right, But like selling, we

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<v Speaker 1>like being, you know, being twenty, Like Okay, what am

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<v Speaker 1>I gonna say? Like the lifestyle of trapping while you're

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<v Speaker 1>in high school, it always looked so fun to me.

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<v Speaker 1>It wouldn't be fun to do.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember this guy named Sasha, I tell tell me more, bro,

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<v Speaker 3>He's mean, he's just gotten himself in like the craziest

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<v Speaker 3>situations I've ever heard of.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like like the like all the guys who would

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<v Speaker 1>like and I was friends with some of them, like

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<v Speaker 1>the dude, the drug dealer guys. They always seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>they were having like I'm sure it was like it

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<v Speaker 1>was stressful. There was like a ton of like obviously

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<v Speaker 1>you know you're uh. This was like ten years ago

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<v Speaker 1>before weed was like fucking legal everywhere, but like there

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<v Speaker 1>was always like like obviously it's a lot of stress,

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<v Speaker 1>like you can get caught, you go to jail for

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<v Speaker 1>a long time, but it just looked fun like some

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<v Speaker 1>like like one of the things I love about like

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<v Speaker 1>my life right now is like I love running around,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like I like being able to like travel

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<v Speaker 1>running around. They would always be running around. They're always

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<v Speaker 1>running around, like they're alway, They're always getting a text

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<v Speaker 1>from some guy. They're always like they seemed like it

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like they had a lot of friends and like

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<v Speaker 1>they had a lot of places to be. And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, of course it's like, well they're only friends

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<v Speaker 1>with them for their weed or you know this anything,

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<v Speaker 1>but it just seemed like a fun way to like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it just seems like a fun way to like connect

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<v Speaker 1>with a bunch of people. Now, listen, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to do it now. If I were twenty eight and

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<v Speaker 1>selling weed the high schoolers, I that does not sound

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<v Speaker 1>like a fun experience. But being sixteen and just like

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<v Speaker 1>driving around like you would smoke everyone up, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like because everyone knew that you were fucking uh, that

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<v Speaker 1>you were packing right, and you kind of felt like

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<v Speaker 1>the man. You kind of felt like an alpha provider.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you were like packing everyone's bowl, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>just the kids, the kids who did that. I just

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<v Speaker 1>was like I always envied that lifestyle. I was wondering

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<v Speaker 1>how they got it.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you remember do you remember there used to be

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<v Speaker 3>a lifestyle where people used to buy like glass and

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<v Speaker 3>bongs for like thousands of dollars, and like you would

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<v Speaker 3>walk into the plug's house and he would have like

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<v Speaker 3>a bong or like a fucking y rig that he's like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, this thing is made by.

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<v Speaker 2>Some wook on.

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<v Speaker 3>Top of a mountain with the lightning stright, and he

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<v Speaker 3>carves his.

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<v Speaker 2>Name into it.

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<v Speaker 3>You can see, like with a lead pencil. He carves

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<v Speaker 3>his name into it. And yes, it's the most rare

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<v Speaker 3>thing on earth. If you smoke out of this thing,

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<v Speaker 3>if she smoked this hash out of this, it will

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<v Speaker 3>cure cancer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>No. You can't use tap.

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<v Speaker 3>Water in my bong. It'll leave a mark. You have

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<v Speaker 3>to distilled water.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, absolutely no. I remember like there was a certain

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<v Speaker 1>level of Again, I like, everything is like there's so

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<v Speaker 1>many there's so many pros and cons to like the

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<v Speaker 1>ten year experience of realizing that like, none of none,

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<v Speaker 1>none of the fucking shit matters, because I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>miss back in the day when uh, like, social status

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<v Speaker 1>was so easily pronounced by just like who had the

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<v Speaker 1>coolest and most expensive rig. You'd go to the plugs

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<v Speaker 1>house and you'd have, yeah, like a fucking Rick and

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<v Speaker 1>Morty bong that was worth like one thousand dollars, and

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<v Speaker 1>you'd be like, holy shit, how did this guy get

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand dollars piece? And now if you go to

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<v Speaker 1>if you go to your friend's house and he has

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<v Speaker 1>like a thousand dollars bong, You're like, dude, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing with your life?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey?

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<v Speaker 3>Man, I got to bounce off the phone in a second.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was good chatting with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, Yeah, it was a good chat.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely good Ermin and German on the phone and like

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<v Speaker 3>reminiscent a little bit about the path.

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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, maybe in another life I'll sell way to

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<v Speaker 1>you in high school, in whatever the next universe we

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<v Speaker 1>we inhabit is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, man, come buy Riser Tound sometime.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, wait, what's going on over there? Absolutely nothing

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<v Speaker 1>sounds fun. It's all right, man, Well good luck, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>see I'll see you around the universe. Wait, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you wait? What are you gonna go do? What are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing right now?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm actually about to go buy a car.

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<v Speaker 1>At a car Okay, car two.

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<v Speaker 3>Thousand and four Mercedes Benz E five hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>Well who you buying it from?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody in the city. I'm actually sending my friends to

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<v Speaker 3>buy it because I think it's just a better idea.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, so why do you have to leave if your

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<v Speaker 1>friends are going to go buy it?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not They're here to like pick like pick up

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<v Speaker 3>some stuff and go do that for me. But I'm

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<v Speaker 3>on hoom detention, so I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're okay, I was gonna ask why you couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>go that you have. That's nice of your friends to

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<v Speaker 1>do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, anyway, I got to bounce off the phone man.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, another time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll see you around the universe. See you, Dan. God

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<v Speaker 1>the party that that guy's cousin through was I was

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<v Speaker 1>an awful night in my life, so racked with anxiety

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<v Speaker 1>and I know how to even do anything. Fucking Dan, dude. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad to see he turned out. Okay, glad to

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<v Speaker 1>see you turned out. Well, everything works out in the end.

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<v Speaker 3>To accept press one to send a voicemail.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh hey, what's that man?

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<v Speaker 1>What's your name?

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<v Speaker 2>Dude? Uh? You can call me beat b B.

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on? B? How's life?

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<v Speaker 2>Life is life? And you know I been going through

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<v Speaker 2>a rough patch, but just closed on a house the

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<v Speaker 2>other day, and you know, chilling?

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<v Speaker 1>What's been rough? How about this this here patch?

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<v Speaker 5>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>So went through a bit of depression after I stopped

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<v Speaker 2>drinking alcohol sober now? And then I cheated on my

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<v Speaker 2>wife with her sister.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, why why I keep going?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? No, just poor decisions and very bad mental health.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're so, I actually find this fascinating because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so quitting drinking made you more depressed?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because I had coped with like depression for like

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<v Speaker 2>eight or nine years with alcohol and alcohol alone. So

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<v Speaker 2>once I stopped drinking, I didn't have that coping any

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<v Speaker 2>coping skills.

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<v Speaker 1>So what how are you? When did you quit drinking?

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<v Speaker 1>When did you quit drinking?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? A little over two years ago?

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, So what do you How do you cope now?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Spend a lot of time with my kid and smoke

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<v Speaker 2>some weed, okay, and play Little Stardy Valley whenever I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not working on my house now, so.

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<v Speaker 1>You swapped alcohol with like weed and video games and

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out with your kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of been spending as much time as I can

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<v Speaker 2>with my kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you depressed?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I would say so. Still on medications, trying

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<v Speaker 2>to find the right one. But you know, getting a

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<v Speaker 2>house is a big step in the right direction for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty good, Pretty good, I've been you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, I'm thirty and I've been living with my parents

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<v Speaker 2>for like seven months.

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<v Speaker 1>How many kids do you have?

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<v Speaker 2>I only have the one?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, how old are they?

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<v Speaker 2>He is four years old, and luckily my ex wife

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<v Speaker 2>and I we are able to co parent very well.

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<v Speaker 2>Less in that scenario.

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<v Speaker 1>Is she like still is she still pissed off of

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<v Speaker 1>you for cheating on her with your sister? With her,

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<v Speaker 1>not with if she if you cheat on her with

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<v Speaker 1>your sister, she'd probably be like, you know what, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not even mad. Just keep them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she would have. It probably would have been better. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, that's where my life has been. Uh, just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to fix the uh wreckage I caused and me

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<v Speaker 2>and her sister are no contact because once everything blew up,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, yo, I fucked up, and then I

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<v Speaker 2>stopped talking to her.

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<v Speaker 1>Hm hm, why did you have some form of like

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<v Speaker 1>actual like romantic relation, Like were you involved with the sister?

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<v Speaker 2>Like it got into like a romantic kind of thing. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>She I realized, well, well too late and after everything

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<v Speaker 2>blew up that she's like a really good manipulator and

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<v Speaker 2>she took advantage of my depression and where I was mentally. Whoa,

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<v Speaker 2>So I noticed that after I didn't know that that

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<v Speaker 2>was happening at the time. She was feeding me information,

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<v Speaker 2>telling me like how her sister, my wife at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>was wanting to leave me and all this stuff, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>making me even more depressed, and then basically pulled me

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<v Speaker 2>into her to comfort me with that. And then it

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<v Speaker 2>led to more.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa, dude, how does something like that even start? Like

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<v Speaker 1>you're at a family dinner and you're like, let me

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<v Speaker 1>get your number.

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<v Speaker 2>I have known both of them for like twelve years.

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<v Speaker 2>So her sister actually introduced me to my now ex

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<v Speaker 2>wife because we worked at the same place back in

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<v Speaker 2>the day. Ah.

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<v Speaker 1>She knew the sister first.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, okay, and.

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<v Speaker 2>She is married with three kids. And I don't even

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<v Speaker 2>know what that scenario is, Like, I stay out of that,

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<v Speaker 2>stay away from that I'm cleaning up my own mess.

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<v Speaker 1>So how often do you have the kids?

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<v Speaker 2>I have him? You know, three or four times a week?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, And that it's just the one right like

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<v Speaker 1>you're I mean, I know you said, just hope. Does

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<v Speaker 1>your like wife have ur ex wife have any other kids?

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<v Speaker 2>Nope, just the one.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you and your ex wife co parent pretty decently.

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<v Speaker 2>We do an excellent job, to the point that we

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<v Speaker 2>both like get pissed off at me for fucking things

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<v Speaker 2>up because we get along so well.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting. Interesting When did this all go down?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>She found out about everything like the end of August

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<v Speaker 2>last year. Then I had sort of a little mental break,

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<v Speaker 2>spent a few days in a not so great psych ward,

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<v Speaker 2>spent about five days there, and then was released to

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<v Speaker 2>go sign my divorce papers.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn the exit paper combo. She picked up from the hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she picked me up from the psych ward and

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<v Speaker 2>drove me. It was like an hour drive. She was

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<v Speaker 2>her choice to do that. Strangely enough, we even stopped

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<v Speaker 2>at Red Lobster and had lunch together on the way home.

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<v Speaker 1>So did you enter a psych ward right after she

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<v Speaker 1>found out?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? It was everything finally just cracked and boiled over

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<v Speaker 2>for me to where like, you know, I had been

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<v Speaker 2>hiding a secret. I had been living alive for a

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<v Speaker 2>long time, and once it was exposed, I just cracked.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's kind of a fear I live with of

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<v Speaker 2>like what if one day I do want to hurt myself?

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<v Speaker 2>And it's never of like oh I want to hurt myself.

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<v Speaker 2>But I felt weak that day and I just checked

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<v Speaker 2>myself into a hospital. Who wait?

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so what's that like? Like you just are like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh I can't handle this and you check yourself into

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<v Speaker 1>a psych word.

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<v Speaker 2>I was on my way to work and I could

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<v Speaker 2>either take the left to go to work or right

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<v Speaker 2>to go to the emergency room and check myself in.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just ended up taking it right and went

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<v Speaker 2>to the hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa. And what do you do? You just say, you

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<v Speaker 1>just go in and you're like, yo, I think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna think I'm gonna Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like yo, like I don't feel super safe,

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<v Speaker 2>just want to check myself in.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you know I had to like get a

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<v Speaker 2>hold of work to be like, hey, I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be a work for a grip. And then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I had to get a hold of my parents, let

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<v Speaker 2>them know what was going on on.

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<v Speaker 1>So what so what do you do? Like, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing there? You like read books?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I read a book. They encourage you to do

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<v Speaker 2>like art. I have never been an artistic person, so

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<v Speaker 2>I fucking hated it. But it was like the more

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<v Speaker 2>you participate in their programs, uh, the quicker they release you.

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<v Speaker 1>But you check yourself out get out of there anytime. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>They they were gonna hold me to three days, which

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<v Speaker 2>is like their normal amount they'd do. And then my

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<v Speaker 2>wife at the time came to visit and was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, I'm filing for divorce. And then they

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<v Speaker 2>claimed that was grounds enough that I might leave and

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<v Speaker 2>hurt myself, so they kept me an extra two days.

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<v Speaker 1>Fucked damn wait.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, you couldn't have Like when I got out,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, you couldn't have waited until I got

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<v Speaker 2>back to the telling that's been another two days in there.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're in the psych world and then your wife

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<v Speaker 1>comes and serves you divorce papers and then the doctors

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<v Speaker 1>or the staff is like, yeah, we're gonna keep you

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<v Speaker 1>in here for a little bit longer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. They were just like we're gonna They even told,

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<v Speaker 2>like specifically, were like, hey, the reason is is because

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<v Speaker 2>your ex wife said she's going to divorce you. That

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of a bogus call because I'm like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>like I already knew that one coming.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's fair, that's fair. That is the I think

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<v Speaker 1>if you are if you're like I already knew that

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<v Speaker 1>this might happen, they should be like all right, well no,

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<v Speaker 1>they were, hey, go, so what's what's why are you depressed?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there's a cog. I mean, there's eighty billion

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<v Speaker 1>ways to questions, but what's why you depressed?

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<v Speaker 2>You know that's been trying to figure out, you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>what really is the root of my depression? And I

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<v Speaker 2>have not found it therapist yet to be able to

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<v Speaker 2>help me quite answer that question if there is a

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<v Speaker 2>root cause or if there is just a chemical imbalance.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what do you like your life?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in the process of trying to get a new

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<v Speaker 2>job because to make things even more interesting, I still

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<v Speaker 2>work with the said sister. Oh no, yeah, it's fuck,

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<v Speaker 2>it's fucking shitty.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys still wait you're no contact but you don't

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<v Speaker 1>but you work together?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like I don't. I just don't speak to her

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<v Speaker 2>at work.

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<v Speaker 1>I okay, you're like no eye contact.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a keep my head down around her. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not like, I don't want anyone to ever be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>he was talking to her and get back to my

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<v Speaker 2>ex wife because then she's she would take the kid away,

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<v Speaker 2>and I choose my child over anyone else.

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<v Speaker 1>So yo, what the fuck that's crazy?

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, working on getting a new job.

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<v Speaker 1>That's good. What else is going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Bought a house other day, been working on that and

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<v Speaker 2>that's about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, hmmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, do you have friends?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh not? I mean I do, but nobody I speak

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<v Speaker 2>to the past few days. One of my friends has

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<v Speaker 2>been helped me help me work on like electrical stuff

0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:30.760
<v Speaker 2>at the house. But like, that's the most I've interacted

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<v Speaker 2>with another human being in a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, I'm not a real therapist, but I mean, yeah, dude,

0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:44.520
<v Speaker 1>the most depressed, the most depressed I have been in

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<v Speaker 1>my life is always when I'm like fucking alone, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I try to plan things and then I

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<v Speaker 2>like back out last minute, you know, just the energy

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<v Speaker 2>of doing it. Do you like when I am planning Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>So I am, I'm going to follow through with that

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm going up there with some friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's pretty good.

0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:09.320
<v Speaker 2>What what other?

0:25:09.600 --> 0:25:11.680
<v Speaker 1>What things have you been like planning? Like your friend's

0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:13.360
<v Speaker 1>text you like, yo, let's go out to the thing,

0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:15.200
<v Speaker 1>and then you say yes, but you know, show up.

0:25:15.880 --> 0:25:18.199
<v Speaker 2>Like yeah, we'll make plans to do something, and then

0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:19.960
<v Speaker 2>last minute I'm like, hey, like, I can't do it.

0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:23.920
<v Speaker 2>I got to do this instead, you know, like or whatever, bullshit,

0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:25.640
<v Speaker 2>excuse I want to make up.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's because you're just like exhausted.

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:37.280
<v Speaker 2>Exhausted even if I haven't done anything. Yeah hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So what do you do when you get home

0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:44.120
<v Speaker 1>from work?

0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Typically I will hang out with my kid for a

0:25:49.320 --> 0:25:51.960
<v Speaker 2>little while if he's going to be going back to

0:25:52.000 --> 0:25:57.000
<v Speaker 2>his mom's house. If not, I am either just trying

0:25:57.000 --> 0:26:01.200
<v Speaker 2>to pick up time at work or I am playing

0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:02.200
<v Speaker 2>video games.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you thought about doing something that is gets you

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<v Speaker 1>around like other people?

0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:12.560
<v Speaker 2>You know?

0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Because that's the thing about Plack. That's the thing about plans.

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:19.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know like plans are. Actually I think plans

0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:23.119
<v Speaker 1>are a bad plan. I say, I mean this is

0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:25.280
<v Speaker 1>the I've repeat this on like every episode of the

0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:28.760
<v Speaker 1>podcast by now. But like you have to find some

0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:33.840
<v Speaker 1>activity or community where like it's the antithesis of plans.

0:26:33.840 --> 0:26:37.320
<v Speaker 1>It's something where you just show up and life happens,

0:26:37.880 --> 0:26:38.560
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I am from a small town, like small area

0:26:45.560 --> 0:26:49.320
<v Speaker 2>in general, there's no like big towns around, so it

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:51.400
<v Speaker 2>is hard to find like a group of people too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that's what I mean in places like that,

0:26:54.440 --> 0:26:58.240
<v Speaker 1>that's what that's what like churches for I don't know if.

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<v Speaker 2>It really just I damn NERO went to church just

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<v Speaker 2>to try it out.

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:06.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that No, that means seriously, that is like what

0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:10.320
<v Speaker 1>like the main reason for like it's just church in

0:27:10.359 --> 0:27:14.440
<v Speaker 1>a small town is just like something where you can

0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:16.720
<v Speaker 1>like show up and there's just like people you know there.

0:27:19.200 --> 0:27:22.119
<v Speaker 2>I tried doing AA for the same kind of reason,

0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:26.360
<v Speaker 2>just to yeah there we go, you know. But those

0:27:26.359 --> 0:27:28.120
<v Speaker 2>are all like church based and it's hard to get

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<v Speaker 2>into whenever they're like preaching instead of just like talking

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 2>about life and it's more of just a church session I.

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<v Speaker 1>Guess, sorry, talking about when they talk about like the

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<v Speaker 1>higher power.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like the ones I've been to, I've been to

0:27:45.600 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 2>two or three different ones, and each one They're all like,

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:51.119
<v Speaker 2>the only way you can do this is with God. Like, well,

0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:53.520
<v Speaker 2>I've been doing it two years without them.

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<v Speaker 1>Well God, well God and like higher power. Uh aren't

0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:07.720
<v Speaker 1>necessarily the same thing, you know what I mean?

0:28:08.760 --> 0:28:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, they but they definitely are like pushing God.

0:28:13.560 --> 0:28:15.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I don't know what's God mean to you,

0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:18.680
<v Speaker 1>like a like a physical.

0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:23.439
<v Speaker 2>Anything floating around in the universe, you know. Yeah, yeah,

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:28.159
<v Speaker 2>different to you than he is to me and to

0:28:28.240 --> 0:28:28.919
<v Speaker 2>the next person.

0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well church is side. The only reason I mentioned

0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:35.639
<v Speaker 1>church is because it's the only thing I didn't think of.

0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 1>That's like in a small town, I would say you

0:28:38.560 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 1>should move, but you have a child and you want

0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 1>to child, and he just bought a house. Uh, it

0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:48.040
<v Speaker 1>can't be that. I mean, dude, you there's gotta be

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:51.360
<v Speaker 1>something right, like you just need you just you just

0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:54.400
<v Speaker 1>you need something where you're like out and around people,

0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 1>like I do think that is everyone's wired differently, but

0:28:57.680 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 1>that at least just in my own life, that that

0:28:59.560 --> 0:29:01.080
<v Speaker 1>to me is like one of the just the power

0:29:01.160 --> 0:29:05.760
<v Speaker 1>players against you know, depression.

0:29:06.720 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 2>If I could get past uh the bars being you

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:13.400
<v Speaker 2>know bars and serving alcohol and just being around at a bunch,

0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:21.200
<v Speaker 2>I do enjoy playing pool. That's the setting is wrong.

0:29:23.480 --> 0:29:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, interesting. Oh that's fucking sucks. Yeah, damn because pool,

0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:31.960
<v Speaker 1>because that's a good that's a good, that's a good

0:29:31.960 --> 0:29:34.800
<v Speaker 1>thing like doing like a pool. Are you at a

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 1>point where you can be Yeah, that sucks right because

0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 1>pool is like a good like legit ass like a

0:29:41.880 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 1>community hobby thing like they have like tournaments and it's

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:49.640
<v Speaker 1>very social, but like it is inherently always around alcohol.

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I I'm good around alcohol. I just realized I

0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:56.720
<v Speaker 2>don't really like being around it too much. It does

0:29:56.760 --> 0:30:00.479
<v Speaker 2>like trigger a little bit like wanting it. But I

0:30:00.520 --> 0:30:03.200
<v Speaker 2>do kind of fight that off with when I get

0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:05.560
<v Speaker 2>like an urge, I'll drink a THHC.

0:30:05.360 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 1>Drink oh really like you know mix.

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:13.680
<v Speaker 2>It was kind of like bubbly and.

0:30:14.600 --> 0:30:15.280
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty good.

0:30:15.320 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 2>So like that kind of fights the it or like

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 2>itches the scratch there a little bit.

0:30:20.560 --> 0:30:21.880
<v Speaker 1>So why don't you go to more and you start

0:30:21.960 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 1>like going to more pool halls?

0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 2>Coming back to depression again, just not bringing myself to

0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:30.000
<v Speaker 2>do it, not holding myself accountable.

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I get you, man, I get you. I get you.

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>I get you. I uh no, I don't know. It's

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:42.040
<v Speaker 1>like I have I have Yeah, I have friends who

0:30:42.040 --> 0:30:44.280
<v Speaker 1>when they get depressed, they just like cut everyone off

0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 1>and they like don't want to do shit or talk

0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 1>to anyone. I feel the opposite where I'm like, I

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 1>feel like, I like, if I'm depressed, I need to.

0:30:54.440 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 3>Be around out of it.

0:30:57.000 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, And so at a certain point, against your

0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 1>own will, because that's the thing, where is it some

0:31:03.400 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 1>part like against your own will? You have to do

0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 1>these things because it's not gonna feel because you for whatever,

0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:14.800
<v Speaker 1>like our bodies are designed so stupidly, you know, because

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:18.800
<v Speaker 1>like you don't know how you're gonna feel in any

0:31:18.880 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 1>given situation until you're actually there. But you have to

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:28.200
<v Speaker 1>like physically bring yourself to the thing before you realize

0:31:28.200 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 1>that the thing is going to make you feel better

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 1>than you would just sit around not doing shit.

0:31:36.280 --> 0:31:40.400
<v Speaker 2>No, that totally makes sense. I did you know. A

0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:43.960
<v Speaker 2>couple months ago, I finally brought myself to go to

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:45.040
<v Speaker 2>a reptile show.

0:31:47.560 --> 0:31:50.400
<v Speaker 1>Well, why did sucks? Why did it suck? Why did

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 1>it suck?

0:31:51.960 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 2>They had so much packed into a tiny They had

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:57.080
<v Speaker 2>like a three story building and put it in one

0:31:57.120 --> 0:32:00.880
<v Speaker 2>tiny room, and it was just like too much in

0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:03.160
<v Speaker 2>one little room to like try to be able to

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 2>see anything. So all the animals were cool. Uh, but

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 2>I did find like the most authentic, like Mexican restaurant

0:32:12.280 --> 0:32:15.240
<v Speaker 2>I could sign by just walking into a random place and.

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:17.000
<v Speaker 1>There we go.

0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 2>See that.

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:21.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the did you live your life?

0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:25.160
<v Speaker 2>Non English or only English speaking person in there, And

0:32:25.160 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 2>I was like, this is to be the best goddamn

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 2>food I ever had.

0:32:28.560 --> 0:32:33.479
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there we go. See that's fucking see. I listen,

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm no expert on solving depression, but I like, I've

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 1>I have it, and I know what the fucking like.

0:32:40.320 --> 0:32:42.959
<v Speaker 1>Depression just it goes it goes away as a result

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 1>of like actually living your life, and it comes to

0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 1>you as a result of like stewing about your life,

0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>and so situations like that where you're like, oh, I'm

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:59.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm excited by walking into a new restaurant. Oh

0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm in the moment of being with my kid. This

0:33:02.040 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 1>that The other thing is whatever you can do to

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:06.800
<v Speaker 1>like be in your fucking life is is really like

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:11.280
<v Speaker 1>the only cure for it. No, you're absolutely right, And

0:33:11.280 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 1>that's why alcohol. That's why alcohol is so Yeah, I

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 1>mean that's why people that's why alcohol is so addicting.

0:33:16.840 --> 0:33:19.800
<v Speaker 1>Is because that's why addictions are addicting, is because they're

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:22.640
<v Speaker 1>people are just looking for ways to, you know, get

0:33:22.640 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 1>into the present. Whether it's like sex or weed or

0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:28.000
<v Speaker 1>food or whatever. We just want some dopamine hit that

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 1>brings you into the present moment.

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:36.360
<v Speaker 2>And I do believe that's probably a part of the

0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:38.960
<v Speaker 2>reason that, like, you know, coming back to the cheating,

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:44.960
<v Speaker 2>I needed that dopamine of someone I don't know, I

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:46.960
<v Speaker 2>guess showing affection in a way.

0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:49.959
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's the That's a device

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:50.320
<v Speaker 1>for sure.

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:52.600
<v Speaker 1>I know you can get addicted to it, for sure,

0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 1>but but that good news is you can also get

0:33:58.640 --> 0:34:03.320
<v Speaker 1>addicted to pro social things like playing pool or hanging

0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:06.160
<v Speaker 1>out with your friends or your kid or whatever.

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:10.719
<v Speaker 2>You know. No, you're right, I I do need to

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:11.800
<v Speaker 2>get out and try something.

0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:13.960
<v Speaker 1>What's your name again, man?

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:17.319
<v Speaker 2>Uh, you can call me b B.

0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 1>But I'm glad we got to talk. This was this

0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:22.560
<v Speaker 1>was nice, man.

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:25.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad I listened to you almost every day.

0:34:25.920 --> 0:34:28.120
<v Speaker 1>Hey, thanks man, I appreciate I'm honored to be part

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:28.760
<v Speaker 1>of your routine.

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:35.279
<v Speaker 2>But it was a pleasure talking to you. Man.

0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:37.160
<v Speaker 1>Anything else you want to say to the people of

0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:38.080
<v Speaker 1>the computer before we go.

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:41.680
<v Speaker 2>I just talk to your spouse as if you're having

0:34:41.719 --> 0:34:48.120
<v Speaker 2>issues your significant others than you, and that is.

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:50.520
<v Speaker 1>All it was. Either it was either B or D,

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:52.719
<v Speaker 1>but whichever one was, have a good rest of your

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:53.319
<v Speaker 1>entire life.

0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:55.879
<v Speaker 2>You too, See you around.

0:34:55.960 --> 0:35:00.319
<v Speaker 1>See you man, pool hall. Maybe I'll go to a

0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:03.839
<v Speaker 1>pool hall, be a cool guy at the pool holl,

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:09.360
<v Speaker 1>smoke a cigarette, get addicted to cigarettes. You know what,

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Fuck the pool hall. I'll just stay home and smoke cigarettes.

0:35:14.920 --> 0:35:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Hello is this Lyle?

0:35:16.640 --> 0:35:16.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:35:16.880 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 1>What's up man? What's your name?

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:19.360
<v Speaker 2>My name is Jacob?

0:35:19.440 --> 0:35:22.120
<v Speaker 3>And you called me eating some purple Doritos?

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:25.800
<v Speaker 1>What? What flavor is the purple dorito? Is that? What

0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 1>the doritos? The doritos themselves aren't purple?

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:28.759
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:35:28.760 --> 0:35:30.920
<v Speaker 1>You're eating the purple The bag is purple. That's the

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 1>sweet and spicy chili flavor.

0:35:34.360 --> 0:35:36.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's yeah.

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 3>I know my put them away.

0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Now that's out. I keep them out. Who cares? Live

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:42.440
<v Speaker 1>your life anyway? What's up?

0:35:42.480 --> 0:35:42.680
<v Speaker 2>Man?

0:35:42.760 --> 0:35:44.759
<v Speaker 1>What's up with you? How are you? Who are you?

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:45.800
<v Speaker 1>What's your name again?

0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Jacob?

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Jacob? What did you do today?

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:56.120
<v Speaker 3>I worked most of the day. I worked as a

0:35:56.160 --> 0:35:59.680
<v Speaker 3>pool tech. I clean pools and work on filters and

0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 3>palm and systems and all that. So that took up

0:36:02.600 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 3>most of my day. I thought I was supposed to

0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:08.880
<v Speaker 3>go do something for the county uh, and then I

0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:11.600
<v Speaker 3>checked my email and realized that I was wrong as

0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:14.480
<v Speaker 3>I was on my way there. So I had dinner

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:19.720
<v Speaker 3>with some friends and then I came home to work

0:36:19.760 --> 0:36:23.640
<v Speaker 3>on my uh little a little side hustle.

0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:26.200
<v Speaker 1>What's your side hustle?

0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:28.799
<v Speaker 2>Well, I do.

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:32.360
<v Speaker 3>A concert photography and videography, and I worked with a

0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:35.480
<v Speaker 3>bunch of artists and do like music videos and stuff

0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 3>like that in every spare minute that I have though, Wait.

0:36:41.360 --> 0:36:44.200
<v Speaker 1>You have a you have a pretty cool life. Actually,

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:46.000
<v Speaker 1>do you like your life?

0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:47.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a lot of fun.

0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:51.760
<v Speaker 3>I get to uh get to go to concerts for free.

0:36:52.200 --> 0:36:54.719
<v Speaker 3>I might be shooting a band at a soccer game

0:36:54.760 --> 0:36:59.920
<v Speaker 3>tomorrow in DC. I'm also uh a Maryland resident. I

0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:03.440
<v Speaker 3>know you come from the land of Maryland. So shout

0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:04.720
<v Speaker 3>out Maryland.

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:07.799
<v Speaker 1>Shout out, shout out Maryland. What part I shit? I

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:10.640
<v Speaker 1>want to ask you, like where specifically in Maryland you are,

0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:12.799
<v Speaker 1>but I don't want to dos you. But also if

0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:13.799
<v Speaker 1>you don't care, I don't care.

0:37:13.840 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 3>I know.

0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:15.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's up to you.

0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:20.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I live in like the northern part of Maryland.

0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 3>I can tell you if you want to, I could

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:26.280
<v Speaker 3>tell you, like roughly, I don't know where in Maryland

0:37:26.400 --> 0:37:29.040
<v Speaker 3>you're exactly from. I could tell you where I'm from

0:37:29.040 --> 0:37:30.040
<v Speaker 3>if you want to bleep it.

0:37:30.000 --> 0:37:36.880
<v Speaker 1>Out, dude. I I today, someone swatted me like five

0:37:37.000 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 1>years ago. Have I ever told this story? Somebody fucking

0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 1>uh like found where I live and they like, they

0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:48.239
<v Speaker 1>found where I live, and they called the police and

0:37:48.280 --> 0:37:51.759
<v Speaker 1>they were like, hey, I live at and then they

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:54.880
<v Speaker 1>gave my address, like pretending they lived at my place,

0:37:55.440 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Speaker 1>and they were like, I live at you know such

0:37:57.640 --> 0:38:00.880
<v Speaker 1>and such a dress, and a man has broken into

0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:04.759
<v Speaker 1>my house wearing a and he's wearing a gecko costume

0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:08.399
<v Speaker 1>and he has a gun. And the idea of being

0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:10.520
<v Speaker 1>they were trying to get the cops to come to

0:38:10.600 --> 0:38:13.360
<v Speaker 1>my house and think I had a gun so they

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:15.840
<v Speaker 1>would kill me. Isn't that crazy?

0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:18.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:21.440
<v Speaker 3>Where I don't know what scale you were at five

0:38:21.520 --> 0:38:24.520
<v Speaker 3>years ago to And I feel like I see it

0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:28.600
<v Speaker 3>happening to like these giant streamers, but like, were you

0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:30.680
<v Speaker 3>streaming at the time or did it just happen?

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:33.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:38:33.160 --> 0:38:35.200
<v Speaker 1>The question is whether or not I had enough clout

0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:38.839
<v Speaker 1>to be uh, to be to be swatted. All that's

0:38:38.880 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 1>to say, I don't want that to happen to you.

0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:42.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't want that to I don't want

0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:47.879
<v Speaker 1>somebody to say, you know, I clean pool filters and

0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:56.439
<v Speaker 1>I have a gun whatever? Uh anyway, ah fuck you're

0:38:56.560 --> 0:39:04.279
<v Speaker 1>uh your name one more time? Jacob, Jacob, Jacob. It's

0:39:04.760 --> 0:39:07.000
<v Speaker 1>it's genuinely, it's completely okay if not. I'm trying to

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:11.239
<v Speaker 1>be a little more loose today. Sometimes, you know what's

0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:14.440
<v Speaker 1>funny for the past. For a lot of times on

0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:16.560
<v Speaker 1>this podcast, I say to someone it's okay if not,

0:39:16.560 --> 0:39:17.719
<v Speaker 1>but do you have something you want to talk about?

0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:19.480
<v Speaker 1>And a lot of times I don't actually mean it

0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:22.160
<v Speaker 1>when I say it's okay if not, I mean that

0:39:22.160 --> 0:39:24.799
<v Speaker 1>about fifty percent of the time depends on what mood

0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:27.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm in today. I'm I could take her to leave it.

0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:32.319
<v Speaker 1>We could talk about pools for an hour, But do

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:35.080
<v Speaker 1>you have something you want to talk about today?

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:37.440
<v Speaker 3>Do you call me because I called you? Or did

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:39.000
<v Speaker 3>you call me because I texted you.

0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:43.320
<v Speaker 1>We're on the phone together right now. That's all that matters.

0:39:43.760 --> 0:39:45.800
<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say, because I left you at text,

0:39:46.200 --> 0:39:51.160
<v Speaker 3>but I saw you might find interesting didn't read it. Okay, well,

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:52.640
<v Speaker 3>I can reiterate if you'd like.

0:39:52.600 --> 0:39:54.040
<v Speaker 1>To please, please please.

0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:58.880
<v Speaker 3>I have this kind of conglomerate that I call the

0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:07.200
<v Speaker 3>Mysterious that is really a embodiment of all the failed

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:13.120
<v Speaker 3>relationships and situationships I had in like middle school, high school,

0:40:14.880 --> 0:40:17.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, like kind of those early I don't know

0:40:17.520 --> 0:40:19.600
<v Speaker 3>what I'm doing, I don't know how to talk to girls,

0:40:20.360 --> 0:40:23.360
<v Speaker 3>made a lot of mistakes. Yeah, and I call it

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:28.160
<v Speaker 3>the Mysterious X because I like, I was kind of

0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:32.440
<v Speaker 3>the first of my friend group to really like start dating,

0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 3>and me and my buddies weren't really like public with

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:38.720
<v Speaker 3>like we didn't talk too much about like the girls

0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:40.719
<v Speaker 3>we were talking to. It was kind of weird, like

0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:44.200
<v Speaker 3>the anount. We didn't talk about it, but when it

0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:46.279
<v Speaker 3>would be brought up, it's like, oh, I just kind

0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:50.600
<v Speaker 3>of you know, it's a conglomerate of multiple different females,

0:40:50.640 --> 0:40:53.480
<v Speaker 3>but it's like, oh, that is was just an experience

0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:55.319
<v Speaker 3>I had with the mysterious X.

0:40:55.760 --> 0:40:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I have multiple questions. I'm also looking at your

0:40:57.920 --> 0:41:01.040
<v Speaker 1>text now. You said, dear GEK, life has been good,

0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 1>but the conglomerate. That is, the mysterious X haunts me

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 1>too often. I also long for the nomadic lifestyle because

0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:12.319
<v Speaker 1>the housing market sucks and I do not dream the

0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:16.440
<v Speaker 1>American dream, but I feel held down by my girlfriend

0:41:16.800 --> 0:41:19.879
<v Speaker 1>and current situation. Okay, those are two things. Let's start

0:41:19.880 --> 0:41:23.359
<v Speaker 1>with the first thing. What Okay, when you say the

0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:27.440
<v Speaker 1>mysterious X. Ex. By the way, it's not like a

0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:32.719
<v Speaker 1>chemical or whatever. When you say the mysterious X. This

0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:36.799
<v Speaker 1>is a conglomerate. This is multiple people that you are

0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:46.919
<v Speaker 1>referring to as one person. Correct, Yeah, okay, and these

0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:53.120
<v Speaker 1>are okay. So the mysterious X is a force that

0:41:53.320 --> 0:42:01.040
<v Speaker 1>is created by the traumas endured you at the hands

0:42:01.080 --> 0:42:03.600
<v Speaker 1>of all of your previous ex girlfriends.

0:42:03.920 --> 0:42:07.040
<v Speaker 2>Girl, yeah, pretty much?

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:11.319
<v Speaker 1>Okay, how many of how many ex girlfriends make up

0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:16.560
<v Speaker 1>this force that is the combination of all your ex girlfriends?

0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:22.560
<v Speaker 3>It was it was really like middle school high school situationships.

0:42:23.239 --> 0:42:25.520
<v Speaker 3>There was only like one or two that was like

0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:28.359
<v Speaker 3>we were kind of dating but not really, but it's

0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:29.400
<v Speaker 3>essentially like.

0:42:32.719 --> 0:42:35.360
<v Speaker 1>Middle school. These are middle school situationships.

0:42:36.760 --> 0:42:39.600
<v Speaker 3>It was like people I was talking to as like

0:42:40.360 --> 0:42:43.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, getting through puberty, like learning how to talk

0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:49.319
<v Speaker 3>to and like, you know, lots of you know, emotional

0:42:49.360 --> 0:42:52.200
<v Speaker 3>mistakes made. It's like just growing up learning how to.

0:42:52.760 --> 0:42:55.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm only I'm only nineteen now.

0:42:56.040 --> 0:42:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I was gonna ask how old you are? Because yeah,

0:42:59.080 --> 0:43:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, dude, do you guys, I you're nineteen? How

0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:08.120
<v Speaker 1>are in what way? Is your your middle school relationship

0:43:08.719 --> 0:43:09.560
<v Speaker 1>still haunting you?

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:19.320
<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately? It's like people that I still see every once

0:43:19.360 --> 0:43:21.759
<v Speaker 3>in a while and like randomly come across them at

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:24.319
<v Speaker 3>the gym or like there is still kind of in

0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:28.960
<v Speaker 3>friend circles. So it's like I get reminded of like, oh,

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:32.239
<v Speaker 3>you know, me and that person used to talk and

0:43:32.239 --> 0:43:34.080
<v Speaker 3>we're like a thing for a while, and now we're not.

0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:35.080
<v Speaker 3>It's just awkward.

0:43:35.600 --> 0:43:39.600
<v Speaker 1>But dude, it's like, why is that? Why is that awkward?

0:43:39.680 --> 0:43:40.960
<v Speaker 1>It's middle school, man.

0:43:43.480 --> 0:43:45.960
<v Speaker 3>It's it's really not awkward. It's just me stuck in

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:49.520
<v Speaker 3>my head making it awkward. Like exactly full conversations with them,

0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:53.759
<v Speaker 3>like nothing happens, but like in my head it's like, oh,

0:43:53.880 --> 0:43:56.960
<v Speaker 3>I got reminded of that one text I sent to

0:43:57.000 --> 0:43:57.839
<v Speaker 3>them that one time.

0:43:57.920 --> 0:44:01.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, dude, yeah, I listen, my friend, you have

0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:03.080
<v Speaker 1>a free listen. You have a free pass to be

0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:07.880
<v Speaker 1>as cringy and stupid as you want in middle school

0:44:07.920 --> 0:44:10.640
<v Speaker 1>and high school. Man, you're your knight to Why are you?

0:44:11.000 --> 0:44:11.960
<v Speaker 1>What are you doing with your life?

0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:12.080
<v Speaker 2>Now?

0:44:12.120 --> 0:44:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Are you in college?

0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 2>So?

0:44:15.719 --> 0:44:19.680
<v Speaker 3>I was in college. I dropped out of community college, okay,

0:44:20.480 --> 0:44:25.640
<v Speaker 3>because I've been doing all this like concert media stuff

0:44:25.840 --> 0:44:31.000
<v Speaker 3>and ended up kind of getting successful with it and

0:44:31.080 --> 0:44:36.080
<v Speaker 3>making decent money with it. And I was taking classes

0:44:36.120 --> 0:44:38.839
<v Speaker 3>for it just because I was interested in it. And

0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 3>then I like didn't learn anything from my classes, and

0:44:41.640 --> 0:44:44.280
<v Speaker 3>I was learning way more by just being a doer

0:44:44.719 --> 0:44:47.520
<v Speaker 3>and going out and actually getting stuff done and networking

0:44:47.560 --> 0:44:50.080
<v Speaker 3>and meeting people and you know, going to do stuff

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:52.759
<v Speaker 3>that I was like, this is kind of dumb. I'm

0:44:52.800 --> 0:44:56.040
<v Speaker 3>just gonna stop paying for classes and just go do

0:44:56.120 --> 0:44:57.000
<v Speaker 3>what I enjoy doing.

0:44:57.520 --> 0:45:03.919
<v Speaker 1>Cool, Okay, all right? So, uh you have a girlfriend now,

0:45:05.440 --> 0:45:08.839
<v Speaker 1>I do, well, So why and you're happy in that relationship?

0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:10.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:13.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, very much. We've been together, uh a little over

0:45:13.920 --> 0:45:14.799
<v Speaker 3>three years now.

0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So dude, what I mean, I don't know if

0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:21.520
<v Speaker 1>you're I don't know how serious you are about any

0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:25.840
<v Speaker 1>of the ship. But like the conglomerate known is the

0:45:25.920 --> 0:45:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Mysterious ex I mean is that Is that really a thing?

0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:33.560
<v Speaker 1>That's like, you're in a you have a successful business

0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:36.600
<v Speaker 1>and you're in a successful relationship. Why do you give

0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:38.680
<v Speaker 1>a shit about anything that happened to middle school?

0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:46.400
<v Speaker 3>I really don't. I'm really like past them ultimately. But

0:45:46.480 --> 0:45:48.879
<v Speaker 3>then it's like, you know those late night thoughts where

0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:51.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm up too late, you know, working on stuff I

0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:55.000
<v Speaker 3>just like get reminded. It's like, oh, you know, I

0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:57.480
<v Speaker 3>gotta reminded that person or like one of them randomly

0:45:57.520 --> 0:46:02.440
<v Speaker 3>added me on Snapchat like semi recently. Is like all

0:46:02.520 --> 0:46:06.040
<v Speaker 3>this just like brings back weird, awkward memories, you know,

0:46:06.160 --> 0:46:08.480
<v Speaker 3>throw my mood off for a day or two. And

0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:09.920
<v Speaker 3>then it's like, you know, when I'm back to like

0:46:10.000 --> 0:46:12.960
<v Speaker 3>normal life and I completely forget about it. And then

0:46:13.440 --> 0:46:15.360
<v Speaker 3>a couple of months later, it's like, oh, you know,

0:46:15.400 --> 0:46:16.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm reminded of them again.

0:46:17.280 --> 0:46:18.680
<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm gonna do, Actually, I'm gonna make it.

0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:20.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna make this worse. You want to hear something

0:46:20.840 --> 0:46:23.960
<v Speaker 1>that that will actually make you feel worse, go for it.

0:46:24.480 --> 0:46:29.440
<v Speaker 1>You know how You're like you're uplate at night and

0:46:29.480 --> 0:46:34.200
<v Speaker 1>you start ruminating about like, uh, cringey stuff that you

0:46:34.239 --> 0:46:37.640
<v Speaker 1>did in middle school. Right, I'm gonna make it worse

0:46:37.640 --> 0:46:42.360
<v Speaker 1>for you. And in just a few years you're gonna

0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:45.960
<v Speaker 1>be up late at night ruminating about cringey stuff that

0:46:46.040 --> 0:46:48.239
<v Speaker 1>you are doing right now.

0:46:49.760 --> 0:46:51.719
<v Speaker 3>Cringy stuff that I'm telling a get go.

0:46:51.760 --> 0:46:55.000
<v Speaker 1>On the phone exactly exactly. This is the kind of

0:46:55.080 --> 0:46:58.480
<v Speaker 1>thing that you're It's like a cycle. You're gonna be

0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:03.520
<v Speaker 1>reminist saying on how cringey it was to cringe over

0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:06.840
<v Speaker 1>your middle school ex girlfriend.

0:47:09.520 --> 0:47:12.040
<v Speaker 3>I just remembered, can I go on like a slight

0:47:12.200 --> 0:47:14.640
<v Speaker 3>side tangent, I have a little story that kind of

0:47:14.680 --> 0:47:15.799
<v Speaker 3>pertains to you.

0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, sure, sure, Wait you have a story about story.

0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:27.919
<v Speaker 3>So you had an episode recently about a woman who

0:47:29.200 --> 0:47:33.719
<v Speaker 3>worked with rats, and you talked about like, oh, what

0:47:33.800 --> 0:47:36.680
<v Speaker 3>if one of the rats became sentient, and like would

0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:38.120
<v Speaker 3>you let the rat free?

0:47:38.600 --> 0:47:38.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:47:38.920 --> 0:47:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah I remember that.

0:47:39.760 --> 0:47:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:47:41.040 --> 0:47:44.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, like the next night, I had the most vivid dream.

0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:47.279
<v Speaker 3>I haven't had like vivid dreams in a while. I

0:47:47.320 --> 0:47:52.399
<v Speaker 3>had the most vivid dream about a sentient rat that

0:47:52.520 --> 0:47:55.320
<v Speaker 3>like came out of a pool and was like talking

0:47:55.360 --> 0:47:57.960
<v Speaker 3>to me. I was like in my dream, I was

0:47:58.000 --> 0:48:00.600
<v Speaker 3>like I heard about this somewhere, and then I was like,

0:48:00.680 --> 0:48:09.520
<v Speaker 3>thinking about you in my dream talking to this sentient rat?

0:48:10.960 --> 0:48:11.600
<v Speaker 2>Is that weird?

0:48:13.640 --> 0:48:15.400
<v Speaker 1>So you had had a dream about me?

0:48:17.440 --> 0:48:20.080
<v Speaker 3>Well, I had a dream about a sentient rat, and

0:48:20.120 --> 0:48:23.000
<v Speaker 3>then it kind of came like a lucid dreamer, I

0:48:23.080 --> 0:48:25.120
<v Speaker 3>kind of realized I was dreaming, and then I like

0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:26.839
<v Speaker 3>was consciously like.

0:48:26.800 --> 0:48:28.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh, this is what Lyle talked about.

0:48:29.160 --> 0:48:32.160
<v Speaker 3>This is like it's like that trained situation where you

0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:36.200
<v Speaker 3>like you can either hit five people or you change

0:48:36.200 --> 0:48:39.000
<v Speaker 3>the track and it hits you know, one person and

0:48:39.080 --> 0:48:40.399
<v Speaker 3>you're responsible for their death.

0:48:40.440 --> 0:48:41.120
<v Speaker 2>It's like what am i?

0:48:41.200 --> 0:48:43.960
<v Speaker 3>Am I gonna let the sentient rat go? Or am

0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:45.759
<v Speaker 3>I gonna like turn it?

0:48:47.560 --> 0:48:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Having the dream itself is like the train situation.

0:48:52.719 --> 0:48:55.680
<v Speaker 3>No. Well, in the in the episode, when you were

0:48:55.680 --> 0:48:58.520
<v Speaker 3>talking to a woman, she like raises rats to be

0:48:58.640 --> 0:49:02.520
<v Speaker 3>sped to like cats and snakes and stuff, And the

0:49:02.600 --> 0:49:05.080
<v Speaker 3>situation you posed to her was like, if you found

0:49:05.080 --> 0:49:07.400
<v Speaker 3>the sentient rat, would you just let him go or

0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:11.120
<v Speaker 3>would you keep him there to be fed to the snakes?

0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:15.439
<v Speaker 3>And I was like faced with that same situation of like, oh,

0:49:15.520 --> 0:49:17.359
<v Speaker 3>do I like talk to the rat and let him

0:49:17.400 --> 0:49:20.600
<v Speaker 3>go free and just let him like live a ratitudy life,

0:49:20.719 --> 0:49:22.879
<v Speaker 3>or do I like turn him into a lab and

0:49:22.960 --> 0:49:26.200
<v Speaker 3>like let people do science on him and find cures

0:49:26.200 --> 0:49:27.240
<v Speaker 3>to cancer or something.

0:49:29.760 --> 0:49:45.240
<v Speaker 1>What's your name again, Jacob? I don't think it's weird, Jacob.

0:49:45.280 --> 0:49:46.480
<v Speaker 1>Is there anything you want to say to the people

0:49:46.480 --> 0:49:47.440
<v Speaker 1>of the computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would say, just just be a go getter.

0:49:55.520 --> 0:49:57.640
<v Speaker 3>Do things. It doesn't matter what you do, as long

0:49:57.680 --> 0:50:02.359
<v Speaker 3>as you're doing something. That's been my one of my biggest.

0:50:02.000 --> 0:50:02.520
<v Speaker 2>Things in life.

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<v Speaker 3>I've gotten to do some really cool stuff I got

0:50:05.080 --> 0:50:07.080
<v Speaker 3>I've gotten to shoe for a bunch of cool bands

0:50:07.280 --> 0:50:10.160
<v Speaker 3>and meet a bunch of cool people and do all

0:50:10.160 --> 0:50:13.279
<v Speaker 3>these cool things with you know, a hobby and an

0:50:13.360 --> 0:50:16.120
<v Speaker 3>art that I never thought i'd be doing, only just

0:50:16.160 --> 0:50:17.960
<v Speaker 3>because I thought it was fun, and then I went

0:50:18.000 --> 0:50:20.040
<v Speaker 3>and did it. And now I get to, you know,

0:50:20.480 --> 0:50:24.120
<v Speaker 3>you do what I love doing and make money from it.

0:50:24.160 --> 0:50:26.359
<v Speaker 3>And it's a lot of fun and I love it

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<v Speaker 3>every single day. So just go do just don't don't

0:50:29.800 --> 0:50:31.160
<v Speaker 3>sit still. Just go do something.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Jacob.

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<v Speaker 3>Awesome, Well, thank you, Lyle. Have a good night.

0:50:36.920 --> 0:50:38.799
<v Speaker 1>Hey you too, man, good luck, good luck with the

0:50:38.840 --> 0:50:39.759
<v Speaker 1>mysterious X.

0:50:41.360 --> 0:50:42.399
<v Speaker 3>I appreciate it.

0:50:43.000 --> 0:50:44.560
<v Speaker 2>No, no, I'm thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>See Jacob. That was Jacob. Hello, Hi, Hello?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh is this the Get Go?

0:50:58.880 --> 0:50:59.120
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

0:50:59.239 --> 0:51:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Who is this? My name's Riley, Riley have do you

0:51:04.880 --> 0:51:07.719
<v Speaker 1>ever see this show? This is fucking Nickelodeon show. It's

0:51:07.760 --> 0:51:10.799
<v Speaker 1>called The Replacements.

0:51:11.160 --> 0:51:12.279
<v Speaker 5>Oh, I haven't heard of it.

0:51:12.680 --> 0:51:15.279
<v Speaker 1>Ah, there's a character in the name, right the show

0:51:15.320 --> 0:51:21.719
<v Speaker 1>goes Todd and Riley were oh so sad. Then they

0:51:21.840 --> 0:51:24.160
<v Speaker 1>replaced all the people in their life. You know.

0:51:24.200 --> 0:51:24.560
<v Speaker 3>That's that.

0:51:24.719 --> 0:51:28.319
<v Speaker 1>It's about these two kids and they can point at

0:51:28.320 --> 0:51:31.440
<v Speaker 1>someone and press a button and they replaces them with

0:51:31.480 --> 0:51:35.480
<v Speaker 1>a different guy. Uh huh.

0:51:37.680 --> 0:51:39.600
<v Speaker 2>I one thing I ever watched.

0:51:39.719 --> 0:51:41.640
<v Speaker 5>Oh, we just looked familiar.

0:51:42.080 --> 0:51:44.359
<v Speaker 1>Oh you looked it up. Okay, I'm looking it up too.

0:51:45.239 --> 0:51:54.440
<v Speaker 1>This is definitely something that uh what years is from?

0:51:54.719 --> 0:51:54.799
<v Speaker 2>What?

0:51:55.040 --> 0:51:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Who created it? Wonder what they're doing? Now? Wow's let's

0:51:59.719 --> 0:52:03.480
<v Speaker 1>see created by Dan Santat. What's he up to?

0:52:04.680 --> 0:52:07.240
<v Speaker 5>What did he get my text?

0:52:07.920 --> 0:52:10.719
<v Speaker 1>Dan Satat was born in nineteen seventy five to Thai

0:52:10.840 --> 0:52:14.160
<v Speaker 1>immigrants in Brooklyn before moving to California when he was three.

0:52:15.880 --> 0:52:19.240
<v Speaker 1>What's he doing right now? Hold on, he's a commercial illustrator.

0:52:20.400 --> 0:52:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Well he's doing pretty good. He's like put you always.

0:52:22.160 --> 0:52:23.040
<v Speaker 1>He's making books.

0:52:23.840 --> 0:52:26.160
<v Speaker 5>Now like children's books.

0:52:26.800 --> 0:52:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he made a book called a fish boy named Sashimi.

0:52:33.239 --> 0:52:34.240
<v Speaker 5>But did he get my text?

0:52:34.600 --> 0:52:37.719
<v Speaker 1>Are you hold on? Hold on, Riley, hold on, hold

0:52:37.719 --> 0:52:41.320
<v Speaker 1>your horses, Riley, Jesus Christ?

0:52:43.280 --> 0:52:44.640
<v Speaker 5>Can't we on talking to the get go?

0:52:48.320 --> 0:52:48.520
<v Speaker 2>Well?

0:52:48.600 --> 0:52:55.279
<v Speaker 1>Interesting? He was a commercial illustrator for GQ Russia. Oh uh,

0:52:55.920 --> 0:52:59.799
<v Speaker 1>he's got two sons, a bird, three dogs, and a cat.

0:53:00.400 --> 0:53:02.640
<v Speaker 1>This guy is cool. Imagine you just make like a

0:53:03.560 --> 0:53:05.640
<v Speaker 1>like if you just have three years where you make

0:53:05.680 --> 0:53:08.360
<v Speaker 1>a Disney Channel show and then you write children's books

0:53:09.280 --> 0:53:11.760
<v Speaker 1>and you have a and then you buy a bird?

0:53:12.920 --> 0:53:13.880
<v Speaker 5>Is it like a parrot?

0:53:15.600 --> 0:53:20.520
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't say what kind of birdie? He just says

0:53:20.560 --> 0:53:24.279
<v Speaker 1>he has a just says a bird, three dogs and

0:53:24.320 --> 0:53:29.760
<v Speaker 1>two cats. All right, what did you want to talk about?

0:53:31.239 --> 0:53:34.359
<v Speaker 5>I was going to ask your opinion on what you

0:53:34.400 --> 0:53:40.920
<v Speaker 5>think about if smut books h are equivalent to porn?

0:53:43.560 --> 0:53:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Are smut books equivalent to porn? Well, smut books have

0:53:47.400 --> 0:53:50.200
<v Speaker 1>from what I understand, I from what I understand, smut

0:53:50.239 --> 0:53:58.560
<v Speaker 1>books kind of vary in their level of graphicness. Correct.

0:53:59.000 --> 0:54:02.760
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you I mean do you read smut books?

0:54:07.239 --> 0:54:13.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah? I mean there's like that really popular one it's uh, like,

0:54:13.280 --> 0:54:16.680
<v Speaker 5>the really popular one is a Court of Thorns and Roses.

0:54:17.920 --> 0:54:18.640
<v Speaker 1>And who does that?

0:54:20.840 --> 0:54:26.960
<v Speaker 5>Oh, let me check. I have the book, but I

0:54:26.960 --> 0:54:29.759
<v Speaker 5>haven't read it yet. It's by Sarah J.

0:54:30.520 --> 0:54:31.120
<v Speaker 3>Moss.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait okay, so you have you have the book, but

0:54:34.200 --> 0:54:35.120
<v Speaker 1>you haven't read it yet.

0:54:36.360 --> 0:54:36.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:54:37.680 --> 0:54:43.640
<v Speaker 1>But uh but okay, but you read books of this genre.

0:54:46.520 --> 0:54:49.280
<v Speaker 5>Like romantic fantasy books.

0:54:49.800 --> 0:54:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, yeah. And do you I mean, do you

0:54:56.000 --> 0:54:59.520
<v Speaker 1>think that they are on the same level as porn?

0:55:00.960 --> 0:55:04.399
<v Speaker 5>I don't think so. But obviously a lot of men

0:55:04.760 --> 0:55:10.279
<v Speaker 5>like and like the Manisphere saying that, like it's equivalent

0:55:10.400 --> 0:55:12.600
<v Speaker 5>kind of but I disagree.

0:55:13.000 --> 0:55:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, so what so these guys from the manisphere

0:55:15.120 --> 0:55:18.600
<v Speaker 1>are saying their equivalent? What what's what's their arguments?

0:55:23.880 --> 0:55:26.600
<v Speaker 5>I mean, none of the men in like the Manisphere

0:55:26.600 --> 0:55:28.400
<v Speaker 5>really have good arguments, to be honest.

0:55:28.760 --> 0:55:32.200
<v Speaker 1>So well, I didn't ask if it was a good argument.

0:55:32.200 --> 0:55:36.279
<v Speaker 1>I just what is the argument of uh that it's

0:55:36.360 --> 0:55:37.080
<v Speaker 1>that it's porn.

0:55:38.719 --> 0:55:45.880
<v Speaker 5>Well, but you're like reading it versus seeing the actual

0:55:45.960 --> 0:55:50.160
<v Speaker 5>videos of porn, you know, uh huh, So I don't really,

0:55:51.960 --> 0:55:55.200
<v Speaker 5>I don't know. I can kind of see it a

0:55:55.200 --> 0:55:59.120
<v Speaker 5>little bit of being equivalent, but not to the extent

0:55:59.200 --> 0:56:01.040
<v Speaker 5>that men's I think it is.

0:56:02.160 --> 0:56:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Do like the men in your real life, do they

0:56:05.760 --> 0:56:07.560
<v Speaker 1>do they believe that they're they're equivalent?

0:56:08.400 --> 0:56:10.120
<v Speaker 5>Uh in my own personal life.

0:56:10.600 --> 0:56:18.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean there is an aspect of okay, and

0:56:18.320 --> 0:56:20.360
<v Speaker 1>there is an aspect of it where it is like

0:56:21.800 --> 0:56:25.280
<v Speaker 1>genuinely for the plot correct like that, Like the plot

0:56:25.360 --> 0:56:31.160
<v Speaker 1>lines of these books are meant to be engaging. You

0:56:31.160 --> 0:56:33.400
<v Speaker 1>don't watch poor and for any sort of like engaging

0:56:33.440 --> 0:56:35.800
<v Speaker 1>plot line exactly.

0:56:36.080 --> 0:56:39.120
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And honestly, a lot of the smut books that

0:56:39.239 --> 0:56:45.359
<v Speaker 5>are popular are more it's like eighty no, like even

0:56:45.480 --> 0:56:49.759
<v Speaker 5>like ninety percent of it is just storyline, and there's

0:56:49.760 --> 0:56:51.680
<v Speaker 5>like ten percent of smutt you know.

0:56:52.320 --> 0:56:54.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, are you jacking off to this stuff? That's

0:56:54.560 --> 0:56:58.040
<v Speaker 1>another big thing. No, if you're not jacking off to

0:56:58.080 --> 0:57:01.279
<v Speaker 1>the star, then it's not even on the same and

0:57:01.360 --> 0:57:06.280
<v Speaker 1>it's not even in the same universe, right, Yeah, Okay,

0:57:06.560 --> 0:57:06.960
<v Speaker 1>have you.

0:57:06.920 --> 0:57:08.640
<v Speaker 5>Ever read any spot books?

0:57:09.080 --> 0:57:14.600
<v Speaker 1>When I was younger, I was like fourteen, I there

0:57:14.680 --> 0:57:16.440
<v Speaker 1>was I actually actually think I've talked about this on

0:57:16.440 --> 0:57:20.160
<v Speaker 1>the podcast before, but there was this like website called

0:57:20.360 --> 0:57:24.240
<v Speaker 1>my first Time dot com where people would like tell

0:57:24.400 --> 0:57:27.160
<v Speaker 1>stories about like losing their virginity and whatnot. I think

0:57:27.160 --> 0:57:28.919
<v Speaker 1>there was just people, but a lot it was probably fake,

0:57:29.000 --> 0:57:31.400
<v Speaker 1>but like people would just tell like stories about like

0:57:31.520 --> 0:57:34.400
<v Speaker 1>meeting someone and then like having sex with them for

0:57:34.400 --> 0:57:36.120
<v Speaker 1>the first time. And I used to jack off to

0:57:36.160 --> 0:57:38.640
<v Speaker 1>that when I was like fourteen, But since then I

0:57:38.680 --> 0:57:39.480
<v Speaker 1>haven't really.

0:57:39.280 --> 0:57:44.720
<v Speaker 5>Been like, how did you even like come upon that?

0:57:44.920 --> 0:57:47.640
<v Speaker 5>Because like when I was fourteen, I didn't even think

0:57:47.680 --> 0:57:50.400
<v Speaker 5>of looking for something like that, Okay.

0:57:50.120 --> 0:57:53.000
<v Speaker 1>But when you were But when you were fourteen, you

0:57:53.040 --> 0:57:55.800
<v Speaker 1>don't look for these things. They just they find you,

0:57:55.800 --> 0:57:58.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, like when you were fourteen exactly, like you're like,

0:57:58.320 --> 0:58:03.280
<v Speaker 1>you're listen, you're you read smell you're former Tumblr person? Correct,

0:58:04.080 --> 0:58:04.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not?

0:58:04.520 --> 0:58:05.600
<v Speaker 2>Actually no?

0:58:06.360 --> 0:58:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean no, yeah, what was your site? What was

0:58:09.720 --> 0:58:12.760
<v Speaker 1>your thing for?

0:58:12.840 --> 0:58:12.920
<v Speaker 3>What?

0:58:14.040 --> 0:58:14.760
<v Speaker 1>For the Internet?

0:58:16.680 --> 0:58:21.160
<v Speaker 5>I mean it was really just Instagram and Snapchat. You know.

0:58:21.320 --> 0:58:22.439
<v Speaker 1>How how old are you?

0:58:23.440 --> 0:58:23.960
<v Speaker 5>Twenty two?

0:58:24.840 --> 0:58:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay? Uh, that's that's so that's a that's about that's

0:58:29.440 --> 0:58:34.760
<v Speaker 1>enough of a generational gap. Uh.

0:58:34.800 --> 0:58:35.480
<v Speaker 5>How old are you?

0:58:36.600 --> 0:58:38.440
<v Speaker 1>Uh? Forty seven?

0:58:39.760 --> 0:58:40.600
<v Speaker 3>You're forty seven.

0:58:40.720 --> 0:58:42.520
<v Speaker 5>You're like you were young.

0:58:43.160 --> 0:58:45.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm not forty seven. I am not forty seven years old.

0:58:46.000 --> 0:58:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm who cares? Okay, so, I mean, what can

0:58:56.560 --> 0:58:59.080
<v Speaker 1>I say you? Why did you want to ask me this?

0:59:01.240 --> 0:59:03.400
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, because I feel like it's like a

0:59:03.440 --> 0:59:07.560
<v Speaker 5>controversial question, and I've gotten like mixed reviews as to

0:59:07.680 --> 0:59:12.000
<v Speaker 5>like other people's responses and everything. So I was curious

0:59:12.040 --> 0:59:16.800
<v Speaker 5>to see your stance on smut books versus porn.

0:59:17.920 --> 0:59:25.640
<v Speaker 1>Does if I search up Rouge the Bat from Sonic Nude,

0:59:25.960 --> 0:59:31.160
<v Speaker 1>that's not smut, right, that's like what does that count as?

0:59:31.240 --> 0:59:31.400
<v Speaker 2>What?

0:59:31.520 --> 0:59:35.080
<v Speaker 1>That's what would you? What category would you put that under?

0:59:35.280 --> 0:59:38.560
<v Speaker 1>If I wanted to read stories about Rouge the Bat

0:59:39.720 --> 0:59:46.040
<v Speaker 1>engaged in in a tryst with Shadow or perhaps on

0:59:46.040 --> 0:59:50.040
<v Speaker 1>on one regardable evening the Eggman, that would that would

0:59:50.120 --> 0:59:53.040
<v Speaker 1>be under a under smut?

0:59:53.800 --> 0:59:56.240
<v Speaker 5>I guess I would. Yeah, that would be under smut.

0:59:56.280 --> 1:00:00.960
<v Speaker 5>And it's probably gonna be on.

0:59:59.160 --> 1:00:01.960
<v Speaker 1>On what what bad?

1:00:02.880 --> 1:00:03.680
<v Speaker 5>You don't know what good?

1:00:04.680 --> 1:00:11.160
<v Speaker 1>What wet pad? Yeah? W A T TPA D it

1:00:11.320 --> 1:00:16.880
<v Speaker 1>does this is a porn fan fiction? No? No, no no.

1:00:17.240 --> 1:00:20.960
<v Speaker 5>It was just like a like an app that you

1:00:21.000 --> 1:00:24.920
<v Speaker 5>could uh pretty much upload your own stories, like you

1:00:24.920 --> 1:00:27.480
<v Speaker 5>don't have to be like a published off like a

1:00:27.760 --> 1:00:30.760
<v Speaker 5>like author or whatever. But some of the stories on

1:00:30.880 --> 1:00:34.520
<v Speaker 5>there actually did get published because they were super popular,

1:00:36.520 --> 1:00:40.920
<v Speaker 5>but watpad was like a big thing when I grew up.

1:00:40.920 --> 1:00:46.800
<v Speaker 1>At least, what was the most intriguing thing that you

1:00:46.800 --> 1:00:47.840
<v Speaker 1>have read on? What ped?

1:00:48.920 --> 1:00:57.040
<v Speaker 5>Oh it's been forever, but man, that I don't remember. Actually,

1:00:57.120 --> 1:01:05.680
<v Speaker 5>I haven't been on it in years, Riley.

1:01:05.880 --> 1:01:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you should check out that show the replacements. It's

1:01:10.000 --> 1:01:15.080
<v Speaker 1>pretty it's I want I'm gonna rewatch this guy Dan

1:01:15.240 --> 1:01:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Okay's so I'm inspired by this guy. He's had a

1:01:17.720 --> 1:01:23.160
<v Speaker 1>really long and good career. Man, he's fifty. How old

1:01:23.200 --> 1:01:24.880
<v Speaker 1>was he when he made the replacements? He was like,

1:01:24.960 --> 1:01:29.120
<v Speaker 1>my damn, he was like, what year was he born?

1:01:29.760 --> 1:01:33.000
<v Speaker 1>Nineteen seventy five? He's thirty one?

1:01:33.080 --> 1:01:34.560
<v Speaker 5>Okay, so he was thirty one.

1:01:35.360 --> 1:01:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's pretty good. I feel like I'm almost thirty one.

1:01:41.680 --> 1:01:42.360
<v Speaker 5>How old are you?

1:01:43.200 --> 1:01:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm almost thirty one, Riley? Is there anything else

1:01:47.000 --> 1:01:48.240
<v Speaker 1>you want to say to the people of the computer

1:01:48.280 --> 1:01:48.840
<v Speaker 1>before we go?

1:01:52.880 --> 1:01:56.400
<v Speaker 5>No, I still didn't really get your opinion on if

1:01:56.440 --> 1:01:56.960
<v Speaker 5>you think.

1:01:56.920 --> 1:01:58.480
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean and give what do you mean?

1:01:58.560 --> 1:01:59.960
<v Speaker 1>And give my opinion? Well, what do you mean?

1:02:00.200 --> 1:02:00.360
<v Speaker 2>Give?

1:02:00.880 --> 1:02:03.800
<v Speaker 1>I totally? I absolutely gave my opinion.

1:02:05.440 --> 1:02:07.280
<v Speaker 5>Do you think it's actually like equivalent?

1:02:08.200 --> 1:02:08.360
<v Speaker 3>Yes?

1:02:08.600 --> 1:02:10.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, I gave you my opinion. I said, it's not

1:02:10.800 --> 1:02:12.480
<v Speaker 1>they were not even in the same universe.

1:02:13.400 --> 1:02:18.360
<v Speaker 5>Okay, okay, perfect, thank you, that's perfect.

1:02:18.680 --> 1:02:21.680
<v Speaker 1>You came in here with some kind of I don't

1:02:22.160 --> 1:02:23.760
<v Speaker 1>do you feel like you got what you wanted out

1:02:23.800 --> 1:02:32.240
<v Speaker 1>of this interaction. I don't know I can handle whatever

1:02:32.320 --> 1:02:34.440
<v Speaker 1>the truth full answer is.

1:02:36.080 --> 1:02:39.840
<v Speaker 5>I mean to be honest, I'm kind of drunk.

1:02:40.760 --> 1:02:44.840
<v Speaker 4>Okay, and I didn't even think that I was ever

1:02:44.880 --> 1:02:48.360
<v Speaker 4>gonna be able to talk to you, so I was

1:02:48.560 --> 1:02:49.560
<v Speaker 4>kind of caught off guard.

1:02:50.280 --> 1:02:52.840
<v Speaker 5>I thought it was, you know, shot in the dark.

1:02:53.320 --> 1:02:55.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, what do you do? What do you It's

1:02:56.000 --> 1:03:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Tuesday night? What do you are you celebrating something? No, well,

1:03:06.440 --> 1:03:08.480
<v Speaker 1>every day is a day to celebrate.

1:03:09.720 --> 1:03:13.120
<v Speaker 5>That's true. It's a you know, every day you should celebrate.

1:03:14.160 --> 1:03:15.200
<v Speaker 1>I'll see you around the universe.

1:03:15.320 --> 1:03:17.440
<v Speaker 5>Riley, all right, I'll see you.

1:03:17.520 --> 1:03:20.400
<v Speaker 3>Get go, dude.

1:03:20.400 --> 1:03:27.480
<v Speaker 1>Please tell me if someone else knows remembers this show. Uh,

1:03:28.560 --> 1:03:33.040
<v Speaker 1>it's a little strange that they can just like, oh fuck.

1:03:33.160 --> 1:03:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Nancy Cartwright played the main kid. Gray de Leslie played

1:03:41.920 --> 1:03:44.560
<v Speaker 1>the other kid. Why do I know who this woman is?

1:03:44.680 --> 1:03:50.440
<v Speaker 1>She's like a super famous uh voice actress person who

1:03:50.520 --> 1:03:53.040
<v Speaker 1>she played she played uh oh, she played Vicky, the

1:03:53.040 --> 1:04:01.400
<v Speaker 1>babysitter on the line every nine nos Id just teaching

1:04:01.440 --> 1:04:04.120
<v Speaker 1>you to how to have your life, but he's not

1:04:04.200 --> 1:04:05.560
<v Speaker 1>really an expert.