1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: Well, hello, Hey, what's up man? 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 2: Dude? 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 3: I just wanted to say, like, I remember you used 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 3: to do our morning announcements. 5 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: Dude, you met, You sent me a text and you 6 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: said I wanted to talk about how you used to 7 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: do the morning announcements at our school. Yeah, yeah, you're 8 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: a gecko. Uh yeah, I went to Franklin High School. 9 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 3: Uh back in weren't you used to dude, they used 10 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 3: to do our morning announcements. 11 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: Yeah it was. 12 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I used to do the morning announcements of Franklin 13 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: High School back in two thousand, shit those ten years ago. Yeah, 14 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen. 15 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 3: That's fucking crazy, dude. 16 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: Now you're a gecko, now, my gecko. 17 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 2: That's insane. 18 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 3: That's so inspirational, and you could be anything you ever 19 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 3: want to. 20 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: I thought, what did you say? Did you think I 21 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: was good at the morning announcements? 22 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: Yeah? 23 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 3: I thought you were pretty solid at it. I thought 24 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 3: you going to like a new station or something, but 25 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 3: you did it your own way. 26 00:00:59,560 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 4: What. 27 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: I don't don't give you your last name, but what's 28 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: your first name? I don't know who you are? 29 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 2: Dan? Daniel? 30 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: Fuck, I actually actually have no idea who you are. 31 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: Dan. 32 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, you were you graduated like I think a year 33 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 3: or two before I did. I graduated twenty eighteen. 34 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: Wait, do we know each other? 35 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 3: You probably know my older cousin. 36 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: What's your older cousin's first name? 37 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 2: Alan? 38 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: Did your older cousin once throw a huge party? Dude? 39 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 3: That was he did once? 40 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 1: Were you were you there? 41 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 2: I was not. He actually dicked me. He didn't invite me. 42 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: He didn't fucking invite you. I don't think he invited me. 43 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: I think I just showed up. 44 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 3: He just dicked me. I live right down the street too. 45 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 3: I kind of touched off. 46 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: That was a legend. That was a legendary party. I 47 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: remember showing up at that party and feeling like it's 48 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: maybe the weirdest I've felt in my whole Some of 49 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: the weirdest I've ever felt in my whole life is 50 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: like being at like a college party where I can 51 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: not a cost the high school party, where like I 52 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 1: could see other people like who were good at socializing 53 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: and like being whatever. I was so nervous. I was 54 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: just like standing in I remember, just like I was 55 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: at the party. I was just standing in one spot, 56 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,399 Speaker 1: just trying really hard to like get through the night 57 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: or find someone that I knew that I could talk 58 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: to just to like get through the night. I used 59 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: to be really bad. I used to be a little bit. Yeah, 60 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: I used to just like not know how to just 61 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: inhabit space. I had so much social anxiety. And then 62 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: what happens is, over the course of the next ten years, 63 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: I slowly realized that uh uh, nothing and no one 64 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: matters at all, And now I have and now I 65 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: don't have enough social anxiety. I actually need more to 66 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: prevent myself from uh uh, annoying someone by talking to them. Yeah, 67 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: that's not true. I actually I do. I do still 68 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: have social anxiety in some situations, but less of in 69 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: less of a like, No, that's not true. I have 70 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: social anxiety in some situations. I was recently in a 71 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: situation where I had some social anxiety. But I also 72 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: I don't social this is I don't. I've kind of 73 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: come to the conclusion. I've come to the conclusion that 74 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: I am correct in all of my social interactions, not 75 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: in the sense of like I'm like right about everything, 76 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: but that as long as I'm not being a dick, like, 77 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: however our interaction goes is fine. Like if I'm a 78 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: little awkward or if I'm a little cringey or whatever, like, 79 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: that's fine. I'm still I'm valid in my own existence 80 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: as a human being, and so I don't there's no 81 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: way for me to embarrass myself in front of someone. 82 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: There's only like, there's only like I like, if I'm 83 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: like being a dick or if I'm being rude, that's different. 84 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: But there's no way for me to like be annoying. 85 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I could, you could be annoying, but you're 86 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: still if you're annoying, you can still be correct and 87 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: valid in your existence. Do you know what I do? 88 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying? 89 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 3: I do get what you're saying. It's it's deep. It's 90 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 3: like if you're if you're trying to just speak your arm, 91 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 3: you know, and like you're not being disrespectful, Like there's 92 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 3: no way you could be wrong technically. 93 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: Exactly right, exactly because the social anxiety comes from like, oh, 94 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 1: people are judging me, and it's like, well, judging you 95 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: on what you know, what the. 96 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 3: Dress up as a get go for the first time? 97 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 3: What inspired that? 98 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: Wait? 99 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: What are you doing now, Daniel? What do you what 100 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: do you what did you grow up to be? 101 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm accounting, but I just got fired. 102 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: So, oh, you get why'd you get fired? 103 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,559 Speaker 3: I said it was performance related, but it was really 104 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 3: I think because I took. 105 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 2: Some time off work. 106 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 3: Okay, well, yeah, they probably weren't happy about it around this. 107 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: What did you take? What did you take time off 108 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: to do? 109 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 2: Uh? 110 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 3: How do I explain the how do you I spent 111 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: some I spent some time in jail. Let's just let's 112 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 3: just say that. 113 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: Oh, okay, is that related to why you got fired? 114 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 3: Probably they said it was performance related, but I mean 115 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 3: you take some time off and uh, you know you're 116 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 3: performance really in it. 117 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: I mean when you say you took some time off, 118 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: did you like call out of work for personal reasons 119 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: and not explain why? Like how long were you in 120 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: jail for? 121 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 3: No? Yeah, like I told him, Hey, I got some 122 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 3: personal stuff going on, like I had to messag, jump 123 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 3: off my laptop. 124 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So how long were you in jail for? For? 125 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 3: Like ten days? 126 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 2: It was a fun experience at all. 127 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 3: I highly recommend that not be a good experience and 128 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 3: not to go there. 129 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: What hap what happens? 130 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: What happened? 131 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 3: I don't I really don't want to talk about the 132 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 3: details because the storm. 133 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: I'm going, well, you don't have to, but like can 134 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: I what what? What can we hear? Because I'm so 135 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: we I feel like I gotta know some I. 136 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 3: Mean, like long story short, like a domestic situation where 137 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 3: my ex started breaking things and called the cops and 138 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 3: I was when I got in trouble. 139 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: Okay, all right. I thought I thought I would have 140 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: thought I would I I knowing, I thought you were. 141 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: I thought you were trapping. 142 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I did 143 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 3: that back in the day. 144 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,679 Speaker 1: Yeah that runs of the family. 145 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 3: Not in the family, No, just just the mind, dumb 146 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 3: ass on. 147 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: I thought your cousin trapped? 148 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 3: No, no, what were you? 149 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: Were you trapping? In high school? 150 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 2: A little bit? 151 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? Here and there Ermin and German? 152 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: Did I ever buy weed? Did I ever buy weed 153 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: for you in high school? 154 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: I don't remember. I really don't it. 155 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: Maybe who who did you sell weed to? In high school? 156 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: Give me their full name. Don't give me their full name, 157 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: give me their first name. 158 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 3: There was a lot of people that were like, I don't, 159 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 3: I don't know, like I don't, I don't even like 160 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 3: it's so long ago, I don't even remember. Like everyone 161 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 3: it was a lot of different random people from all 162 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 3: took me really to the random at parts of Maryland, 163 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 3: a farm where I myself in like Prell County. 164 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: Can I be? Can I actually be honest with you? 165 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 3: Be something? 166 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: So when I was in high school, I had a 167 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: lot of friends who trapped, and it always that was 168 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: kind of that actually might still to this day be 169 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: one of my great aspiration. I mean, it's never gonna 170 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: come to It's another lifetime, right, But like selling, we 171 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: like being, you know, being twenty, Like Okay, what am 172 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: I gonna say? Like the lifestyle of trapping while you're 173 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: in high school, it always looked so fun to me. 174 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: It wouldn't be fun to do. 175 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 3: I remember this guy named Sasha, I tell tell me more, bro, 176 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 3: He's mean, he's just gotten himself in like the craziest 177 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 3: situations I've ever heard of. 178 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, like like the like all the guys who would 179 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: like and I was friends with some of them, like 180 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: the dude, the drug dealer guys. They always seemed like 181 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: they were having like I'm sure it was like it 182 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: was stressful. There was like a ton of like obviously 183 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: you know you're uh. This was like ten years ago 184 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: before weed was like fucking legal everywhere, but like there 185 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: was always like like obviously it's a lot of stress, 186 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: like you can get caught, you go to jail for 187 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: a long time, but it just looked fun like some 188 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: like like one of the things I love about like 189 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: my life right now is like I love running around, 190 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: you know, like I like being able to like travel 191 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: running around. They would always be running around. They're always 192 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: running around, like they're alway, They're always getting a text 193 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: from some guy. They're always like they seemed like it 194 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: seemed like they had a lot of friends and like 195 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: they had a lot of places to be. And yes, 196 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: I know, of course it's like, well they're only friends 197 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: with them for their weed or you know this anything, 198 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: but it just seemed like a fun way to like, yes, 199 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: it just seems like a fun way to like connect 200 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: with a bunch of people. Now, listen, I don't want 201 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: to do it now. If I were twenty eight and 202 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: selling weed the high schoolers, I that does not sound 203 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: like a fun experience. But being sixteen and just like 204 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: driving around like you would smoke everyone up, you know, 205 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: like because everyone knew that you were fucking uh, that 206 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: you were packing right, and you kind of felt like 207 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: the man. You kind of felt like an alpha provider. 208 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: You know, you were like packing everyone's bowl, Like I 209 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: just the kids, the kids who did that. I just 210 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: was like I always envied that lifestyle. I was wondering 211 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: how they got it. 212 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 3: Do you remember do you remember there used to be 213 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 3: a lifestyle where people used to buy like glass and 214 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 3: bongs for like thousands of dollars, and like you would 215 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 3: walk into the plug's house and he would have like 216 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 3: a bong or like a fucking y rig that he's like, 217 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 3: you know, this thing is made by. 218 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 2: Some wook on. 219 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 3: Top of a mountain with the lightning stright, and he 220 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 3: carves his. 221 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 2: Name into it. 222 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 3: You can see, like with a lead pencil. He carves 223 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 3: his name into it. And yes, it's the most rare 224 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 3: thing on earth. If you smoke out of this thing, 225 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 3: if she smoked this hash out of this, it will 226 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 3: cure cancer. 227 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely. 228 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: No. You can't use tap. 229 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 3: Water in my bong. It'll leave a mark. You have 230 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 3: to distilled water. 231 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely no. I remember like there was a certain 232 00:10:55,880 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: level of Again, I like, everything is like there's so 233 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: many there's so many pros and cons to like the 234 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: ten year experience of realizing that like, none of none, 235 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: none of the fucking shit matters, because I kind of 236 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: miss back in the day when uh, like, social status 237 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: was so easily pronounced by just like who had the 238 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: coolest and most expensive rig. You'd go to the plugs 239 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: house and you'd have, yeah, like a fucking Rick and 240 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: Morty bong that was worth like one thousand dollars, and 241 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: you'd be like, holy shit, how did this guy get 242 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: a thousand dollars piece? And now if you go to 243 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: if you go to your friend's house and he has 244 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: like a thousand dollars bong, You're like, dude, what are 245 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: you doing with your life? 246 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: Hey? 247 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 3: Man, I got to bounce off the phone in a second. 248 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 3: But it was good chatting with you. 249 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, it was a good chat. 250 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 3: Definitely good Ermin and German on the phone and like 251 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 3: reminiscent a little bit about the path. 252 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: Well yeah, maybe in another life I'll sell way to 253 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 1: you in high school, in whatever the next universe we 254 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: we inhabit is. 255 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, man, come buy Riser Tound sometime. 256 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: All right, wait, what's going on over there? Absolutely nothing 257 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: sounds fun. It's all right, man, Well good luck, I'll 258 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: see I'll see you around the universe. Wait, what do 259 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: you wait? What are you gonna go do? What are 260 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: you doing right now? 261 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 2: I'm actually about to go buy a car. 262 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: At a car Okay, car two. 263 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 3: Thousand and four Mercedes Benz E five hundred. 264 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: Well who you buying it from? 265 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 2: Uh? 266 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 3: Somebody in the city. I'm actually sending my friends to 267 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 3: buy it because I think it's just a better idea. 268 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: Wait, so why do you have to leave if your 269 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: friends are going to go buy it? 270 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 3: I'm not They're here to like pick like pick up 271 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 3: some stuff and go do that for me. But I'm 272 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 3: on hoom detention, so I can't wait. 273 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: If you're okay, I was gonna ask why you couldn't 274 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: go that you have. That's nice of your friends to 275 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: do that. 276 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, I got to bounce off the phone man. 277 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 3: All right, another time. 278 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: I'll see you around the universe. See you, Dan. God 279 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: the party that that guy's cousin through was I was 280 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: an awful night in my life, so racked with anxiety 281 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: and I know how to even do anything. Fucking Dan, dude. Well, 282 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: I'm glad to see he turned out. Okay, glad to 283 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: see you turned out. Well, everything works out in the end. 284 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 3: To accept press one to send a voicemail. 285 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: Hello. 286 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 2: Oh hey, what's that man? 287 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: What's your name? 288 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 2: Dude? Uh? You can call me beat b B. 289 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 1: What's going on? B? How's life? 290 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 2: Life is life? And you know I been going through 291 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 2: a rough patch, but just closed on a house the 292 00:13:58,600 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: other day, and you know, chilling? 293 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: What's been rough? How about this this here patch? 294 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 5: Uh? 295 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 2: So went through a bit of depression after I stopped 296 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 2: drinking alcohol sober now? And then I cheated on my 297 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 2: wife with her sister. 298 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: Oh okay, why why I keep going? 299 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? No, just poor decisions and very bad mental health. 300 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: So you're so, I actually find this fascinating because I'm 301 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: so quitting drinking made you more depressed? 302 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, because I had coped with like depression for like 303 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 2: eight or nine years with alcohol and alcohol alone. So 304 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 2: once I stopped drinking, I didn't have that coping any 305 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 2: coping skills. 306 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: So what how are you? When did you quit drinking? 307 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: When did you quit drinking? 308 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: Uh? A little over two years ago? 309 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: Ah, So what do you How do you cope now? 310 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 3: Uh? 311 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 2: Spend a lot of time with my kid and smoke 312 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 2: some weed, okay, and play Little Stardy Valley whenever I'm 313 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 2: not working on my house now, so. 314 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: You swapped alcohol with like weed and video games and 315 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: hanging out with your kid. 316 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 2: Kind of been spending as much time as I can 317 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: with my kid. 318 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: Are you depressed? 319 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I would say so. Still on medications, trying 320 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 2: to find the right one. But you know, getting a 321 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 2: house is a big step in the right direction for me. 322 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: Pretty good, Pretty good, I've been you. 323 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 2: Know, I'm thirty and I've been living with my parents 324 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: for like seven months. 325 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: How many kids do you have? 326 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: I only have the one? 327 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: Okay, how old are they? 328 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 2: He is four years old, and luckily my ex wife 329 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: and I we are able to co parent very well. 330 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: Less in that scenario. 331 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: Is she like still is she still pissed off of 332 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: you for cheating on her with your sister? With her, 333 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: not with if she if you cheat on her with 334 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: your sister, she'd probably be like, you know what, I'm 335 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: not even mad. Just keep them. 336 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, she would have. It probably would have been better. Yeah, 337 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 2: but yeah, that's where my life has been. Uh, just 338 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: trying to fix the uh wreckage I caused and me 339 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: and her sister are no contact because once everything blew up, 340 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 2: I was like, yo, I fucked up, and then I 341 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 2: stopped talking to her. 342 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: Hm hm, why did you have some form of like 343 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: actual like romantic relation, Like were you involved with the sister? 344 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 2: Like it got into like a romantic kind of thing. Uh. 345 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 2: She I realized, well, well too late and after everything 346 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 2: blew up that she's like a really good manipulator and 347 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 2: she took advantage of my depression and where I was mentally. Whoa, 348 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 2: So I noticed that after I didn't know that that 349 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: was happening at the time. She was feeding me information, 350 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:26,880 Speaker 2: telling me like how her sister, my wife at the time, 351 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 2: was wanting to leave me and all this stuff, you know, 352 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 2: making me even more depressed, and then basically pulled me 353 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: into her to comfort me with that. And then it 354 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 2: led to more. 355 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: Whoa, dude, how does something like that even start? Like 356 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: you're at a family dinner and you're like, let me 357 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: get your number. 358 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 2: I have known both of them for like twelve years. 359 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 2: So her sister actually introduced me to my now ex 360 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 2: wife because we worked at the same place back in 361 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 2: the day. Ah. 362 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: She knew the sister first. 363 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 3: Yes, okay, and. 364 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 2: She is married with three kids. And I don't even 365 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 2: know what that scenario is, Like, I stay out of that, 366 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 2: stay away from that I'm cleaning up my own mess. 367 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 1: So how often do you have the kids? 368 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 2: I have him? You know, three or four times a week? 369 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, And that it's just the one right like 370 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: you're I mean, I know you said, just hope. Does 371 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: your like wife have ur ex wife have any other kids? 372 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 2: Nope, just the one. 373 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: And so you and your ex wife co parent pretty decently. 374 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 2: We do an excellent job, to the point that we 375 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 2: both like get pissed off at me for fucking things 376 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 2: up because we get along so well. 377 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: Interesting. Interesting When did this all go down? 378 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 3: Uh? 379 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 2: She found out about everything like the end of August 380 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 2: last year. Then I had sort of a little mental break, 381 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 2: spent a few days in a not so great psych ward, 382 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 2: spent about five days there, and then was released to 383 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: go sign my divorce papers. 384 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: Damn the exit paper combo. She picked up from the hospital. 385 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, she picked me up from the psych ward and 386 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 2: drove me. It was like an hour drive. She was 387 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 2: her choice to do that. Strangely enough, we even stopped 388 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 2: at Red Lobster and had lunch together on the way home. 389 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: So did you enter a psych ward right after she 390 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: found out? 391 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? It was everything finally just cracked and boiled over 392 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 2: for me to where like, you know, I had been 393 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: hiding a secret. I had been living alive for a 394 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 2: long time, and once it was exposed, I just cracked. 395 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 2: And there's kind of a fear I live with of 396 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 2: like what if one day I do want to hurt myself? 397 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 2: And it's never of like oh I want to hurt myself. 398 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 2: But I felt weak that day and I just checked 399 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 2: myself into a hospital. Who wait? 400 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, so what's that like? Like you just are like, 401 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: oh I can't handle this and you check yourself into 402 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:24,920 Speaker 1: a psych word. 403 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 2: I was on my way to work and I could 404 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 2: either take the left to go to work or right 405 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 2: to go to the emergency room and check myself in. 406 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 2: And I just ended up taking it right and went 407 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 2: to the hospital. 408 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: Whoa. And what do you do? You just say, you 409 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: just go in and you're like, yo, I think I'm 410 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: gonna think I'm gonna Yeah. 411 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 2: I was like yo, like I don't feel super safe, 412 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:47,800 Speaker 2: just want to check myself in. 413 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: Whoa. 414 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 2: And then you know I had to like get a 415 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 2: hold of work to be like, hey, I'm not gonna 416 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 2: be a work for a grip. And then you know, 417 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 2: I had to get a hold of my parents, let 418 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 2: them know what was going on on. 419 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,479 Speaker 1: So what so what do you do? Like, what are 420 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: you doing there? You like read books? 421 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I read a book. They encourage you to do 422 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 2: like art. I have never been an artistic person, so 423 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 2: I fucking hated it. But it was like the more 424 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 2: you participate in their programs, uh, the quicker they release you. 425 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: But you check yourself out get out of there anytime. Uh. 426 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 2: They they were gonna hold me to three days, which 427 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 2: is like their normal amount they'd do. And then my 428 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: wife at the time came to visit and was like, hey, 429 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 2: by the way, I'm filing for divorce. And then they 430 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 2: claimed that was grounds enough that I might leave and 431 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 2: hurt myself, so they kept me an extra two days. 432 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: Fucked damn wait. 433 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 2: I was like, you couldn't have Like when I got out, 434 00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 2: I was like, you couldn't have waited until I got 435 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 2: back to the telling that's been another two days in there. 436 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: So you're in the psych world and then your wife 437 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: comes and serves you divorce papers and then the doctors 438 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: or the staff is like, yeah, we're gonna keep you 439 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: in here for a little bit longer. 440 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. They were just like we're gonna They even told, 441 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 2: like specifically, were like, hey, the reason is is because 442 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 2: your ex wife said she's going to divorce you. That 443 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 2: was kind of a bogus call because I'm like, hey, 444 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 2: like I already knew that one coming. 445 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair, that's fair. That is the I think 446 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 1: if you are if you're like I already knew that 447 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: this might happen, they should be like all right, well no, 448 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 1: they were, hey, go, so what's what's why are you depressed? 449 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 3: Now? 450 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 1: I mean there's a cog. I mean, there's eighty billion 451 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: ways to questions, but what's why you depressed? 452 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: You know that's been trying to figure out, you know, uh, 453 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,719 Speaker 2: what really is the root of my depression? And I 454 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 2: have not found it therapist yet to be able to 455 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 2: help me quite answer that question if there is a 456 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 2: root cause or if there is just a chemical imbalance. 457 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: I mean, what do you like your life? 458 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 2: I'm in the process of trying to get a new 459 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 2: job because to make things even more interesting, I still 460 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 2: work with the said sister. Oh no, yeah, it's fuck, 461 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 2: it's fucking shitty. 462 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: You guys still wait you're no contact but you don't 463 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: but you work together? 464 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I don't. I just don't speak to her 465 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 2: at work. 466 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: I okay, you're like no eye contact. 467 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a keep my head down around her. I'm 468 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 2: not like, I don't want anyone to ever be like, hey, 469 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 2: he was talking to her and get back to my 470 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 2: ex wife because then she's she would take the kid away, 471 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 2: and I choose my child over anyone else. 472 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: So yo, what the fuck that's crazy? 473 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 2: But yeah, working on getting a new job. 474 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 1: That's good. What else is going on? 475 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 2: Bought a house other day, been working on that and 476 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 2: that's about it. 477 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: Okay, hmmm. 478 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 2: Hmm. 479 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: I mean, do you have friends? 480 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 2: Uh not? I mean I do, but nobody I speak 481 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 2: to the past few days. One of my friends has 482 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 2: been helped me help me work on like electrical stuff 483 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 2: at the house. But like, that's the most I've interacted 484 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 2: with another human being in a long time. 485 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 1: Listen, I'm not a real therapist, but I mean, yeah, dude, 486 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: the most depressed, the most depressed I have been in 487 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: my life is always when I'm like fucking alone, you know. 488 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I try to plan things and then I 489 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 2: like back out last minute, you know, just the energy 490 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 2: of doing it. Do you like when I am planning Michigan. 491 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 2: So I am, I'm going to follow through with that 492 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 2: and I'm going up there with some friends. 493 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: Okay, that's pretty good. 494 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 2: What what other? 495 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: What things have you been like planning? Like your friend's 496 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 1: text you like, yo, let's go out to the thing, 497 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: and then you say yes, but you know, show up. 498 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 2: Like yeah, we'll make plans to do something, and then 499 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 2: last minute I'm like, hey, like, I can't do it. 500 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 2: I got to do this instead, you know, like or whatever, bullshit, 501 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 2: excuse I want to make up. 502 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: And that's because you're just like exhausted. 503 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 2: Exhausted even if I haven't done anything. Yeah hmm. 504 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 1: Okay, So what do you do when you get home 505 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:44,120 Speaker 1: from work? 506 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 2: Typically I will hang out with my kid for a 507 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 2: little while if he's going to be going back to 508 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: his mom's house. If not, I am either just trying 509 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 2: to pick up time at work or I am playing 510 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 2: video games. 511 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:09,919 Speaker 1: Have you thought about doing something that is gets you 512 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: around like other people? 513 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 2: You know? 514 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: Because that's the thing about Plack. That's the thing about plans. 515 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 1: I don't know like plans are. Actually I think plans 516 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 1: are a bad plan. I say, I mean this is 517 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: the I've repeat this on like every episode of the 518 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: podcast by now. But like you have to find some 519 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: activity or community where like it's the antithesis of plans. 520 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: It's something where you just show up and life happens, 521 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. 522 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I am from a small town, like small area 523 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 2: in general, there's no like big towns around, so it 524 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,400 Speaker 2: is hard to find like a group of people too. 525 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's what I mean in places like that, 526 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: that's what that's what like churches for I don't know if. 527 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 2: It really just I damn NERO went to church just 528 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 2: to try it out. 529 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, that No, that means seriously, that is like what 530 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: like the main reason for like it's just church in 531 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:14,440 Speaker 1: a small town is just like something where you can 532 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: like show up and there's just like people you know there. 533 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,119 Speaker 2: I tried doing AA for the same kind of reason, 534 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 2: just to yeah there we go, you know. But those 535 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 2: are all like church based and it's hard to get 536 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 2: into whenever they're like preaching instead of just like talking 537 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 2: about life and it's more of just a church session I. 538 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: Guess, sorry, talking about when they talk about like the 539 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: higher power. 540 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, like the ones I've been to, I've been to 541 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: two or three different ones, and each one They're all like, 542 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 2: the only way you can do this is with God. Like, well, 543 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 2: I've been doing it two years without them. 544 00:27:54,840 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: Well God, well God and like higher power. Uh aren't 545 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: necessarily the same thing, you know what I mean? 546 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they but they definitely are like pushing God. 547 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't know what's God mean to you, 548 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: like a like a physical. 549 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 2: Anything floating around in the universe, you know. Yeah, yeah, 550 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 2: different to you than he is to me and to 551 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 2: the next person. 552 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, well church is side. The only reason I mentioned 553 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: church is because it's the only thing I didn't think of. 554 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: That's like in a small town, I would say you 555 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: should move, but you have a child and you want 556 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: to child, and he just bought a house. Uh, it 557 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: can't be that. I mean, dude, you there's gotta be 558 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: something right, like you just need you just you just 559 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: you need something where you're like out and around people, 560 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: like I do think that is everyone's wired differently, but 561 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: that at least just in my own life, that that 562 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: to me is like one of the just the power 563 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: players against you know, depression. 564 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 2: If I could get past uh the bars being you 565 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 2: know bars and serving alcohol and just being around at a bunch, 566 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 2: I do enjoy playing pool. That's the setting is wrong. 567 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, interesting. Oh that's fucking sucks. Yeah, damn because pool, 568 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: because that's a good that's a good, that's a good 569 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: thing like doing like a pool. Are you at a 570 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: point where you can be Yeah, that sucks right because 571 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: pool is like a good like legit ass like a 572 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: community hobby thing like they have like tournaments and it's 573 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: very social, but like it is inherently always around alcohol. 574 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I I'm good around alcohol. I just realized I 575 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 2: don't really like being around it too much. It does 576 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,479 Speaker 2: like trigger a little bit like wanting it. But I 577 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 2: do kind of fight that off with when I get 578 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 2: like an urge, I'll drink a THHC. 579 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: Drink oh really like you know mix. 580 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 2: It was kind of like bubbly and. 581 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: That's pretty good. 582 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 2: So like that kind of fights the it or like 583 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 2: itches the scratch there a little bit. 584 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: So why don't you go to more and you start 585 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: like going to more pool halls? 586 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 2: Coming back to depression again, just not bringing myself to 587 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 2: do it, not holding myself accountable. 588 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I get you, man, I get you. I get you. 589 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: I get you. I uh no, I don't know. It's 590 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 1: like I have I have Yeah, I have friends who 591 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: when they get depressed, they just like cut everyone off 592 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: and they like don't want to do shit or talk 593 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: to anyone. I feel the opposite where I'm like, I 594 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: feel like, I like, if I'm depressed, I need to. 595 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 3: Be around out of it. 596 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And so at a certain point, against your 597 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: own will, because that's the thing, where is it some 598 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 1: part like against your own will? You have to do 599 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 1: these things because it's not gonna feel because you for whatever, 600 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: like our bodies are designed so stupidly, you know, because 601 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 1: like you don't know how you're gonna feel in any 602 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: given situation until you're actually there. But you have to 603 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: like physically bring yourself to the thing before you realize 604 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: that the thing is going to make you feel better 605 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: than you would just sit around not doing shit. 606 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 2: No, that totally makes sense. I did you know. A 607 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 2: couple months ago, I finally brought myself to go to 608 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 2: a reptile show. 609 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: Well, why did sucks? Why did it suck? Why did 610 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: it suck? 611 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 2: They had so much packed into a tiny They had 612 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 2: like a three story building and put it in one 613 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 2: tiny room, and it was just like too much in 614 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 2: one little room to like try to be able to 615 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 2: see anything. So all the animals were cool. Uh, but 616 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 2: I did find like the most authentic, like Mexican restaurant 617 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 2: I could sign by just walking into a random place and. 618 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: There we go. 619 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 2: See that. 620 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the did you live your life? 621 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 2: Non English or only English speaking person in there, And 622 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 2: I was like, this is to be the best goddamn 623 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 2: food I ever had. 624 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:33,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go. See that's fucking see. I listen, 625 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: I'm no expert on solving depression, but I like, I've 626 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: I have it, and I know what the fucking like. 627 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,959 Speaker 1: Depression just it goes it goes away as a result 628 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: of like actually living your life, and it comes to 629 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: you as a result of like stewing about your life, 630 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: and so situations like that where you're like, oh, I'm 631 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited by walking into a new restaurant. Oh 632 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm in the moment of being with my kid. This 633 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: that The other thing is whatever you can do to 634 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: like be in your fucking life is is really like 635 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: the only cure for it. No, you're absolutely right, And 636 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: that's why alcohol. That's why alcohol is so Yeah, I 637 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: mean that's why people that's why alcohol is so addicting. 638 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: Is because that's why addictions are addicting, is because they're 639 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: people are just looking for ways to, you know, get 640 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: into the present. Whether it's like sex or weed or 641 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: food or whatever. We just want some dopamine hit that 642 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: brings you into the present moment. 643 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 2: And I do believe that's probably a part of the 644 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 2: reason that, like, you know, coming back to the cheating, 645 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 2: I needed that dopamine of someone I don't know, I 646 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 2: guess showing affection in a way. 647 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that's the That's a device 648 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: for sure. 649 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 650 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: I know you can get addicted to it, for sure, 651 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: but but that good news is you can also get 652 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: addicted to pro social things like playing pool or hanging 653 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: out with your friends or your kid or whatever. 654 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,719 Speaker 2: You know. No, you're right, I I do need to 655 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 2: get out and try something. 656 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: What's your name again, man? 657 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 2: Uh, you can call me b B. 658 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: But I'm glad we got to talk. This was this 659 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: was nice, man. 660 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 2: I'm glad I listened to you almost every day. 661 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks man, I appreciate I'm honored to be part 662 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:28,760 Speaker 1: of your routine. 663 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 2: But it was a pleasure talking to you. Man. 664 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: Anything else you want to say to the people of 665 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: the computer before we go. 666 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 2: I just talk to your spouse as if you're having 667 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 2: issues your significant others than you, and that is. 668 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 1: All it was. Either it was either B or D, 669 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: but whichever one was, have a good rest of your 670 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 1: entire life. 671 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:55,879 Speaker 2: You too, See you around. 672 00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: See you man, pool hall. Maybe I'll go to a 673 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 1: pool hall, be a cool guy at the pool holl, 674 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 1: smoke a cigarette, get addicted to cigarettes. You know what, 675 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: Fuck the pool hall. I'll just stay home and smoke cigarettes. 676 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 1: Hello is this Lyle? 677 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:16,879 Speaker 2: Yeah? 678 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: What's up man? What's your name? 679 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 2: My name is Jacob? 680 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 3: And you called me eating some purple Doritos? 681 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,800 Speaker 1: What? What flavor is the purple dorito? Is that? What 682 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: the doritos? The doritos themselves aren't purple? 683 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:28,759 Speaker 2: Right? 684 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: You're eating the purple The bag is purple. That's the 685 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: sweet and spicy chili flavor. 686 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's yeah. 687 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 3: I know my put them away. 688 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: Now that's out. I keep them out. Who cares? Live 689 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: your life anyway? What's up? 690 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 2: Man? 691 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: What's up with you? How are you? Who are you? 692 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 1: What's your name again? 693 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:46,760 Speaker 2: Jacob? 694 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: Jacob? What did you do today? 695 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 3: I worked most of the day. I worked as a 696 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,680 Speaker 3: pool tech. I clean pools and work on filters and 697 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 3: palm and systems and all that. So that took up 698 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 3: most of my day. I thought I was supposed to 699 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 3: go do something for the county uh, and then I 700 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 3: checked my email and realized that I was wrong as 701 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 3: I was on my way there. So I had dinner 702 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 3: with some friends and then I came home to work 703 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 3: on my uh little a little side hustle. 704 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: What's your side hustle? 705 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 2: Well, I do. 706 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 3: A concert photography and videography, and I worked with a 707 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 3: bunch of artists and do like music videos and stuff 708 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 3: like that in every spare minute that I have though, Wait. 709 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: You have a you have a pretty cool life. Actually, 710 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,000 Speaker 1: do you like your life? 711 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a lot of fun. 712 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,760 Speaker 3: I get to uh get to go to concerts for free. 713 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 3: I might be shooting a band at a soccer game 714 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 3: tomorrow in DC. I'm also uh a Maryland resident. I 715 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 3: know you come from the land of Maryland. So shout 716 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:04,720 Speaker 3: out Maryland. 717 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: Shout out, shout out Maryland. What part I shit? I 718 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: want to ask you, like where specifically in Maryland you are, 719 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: but I don't want to dos you. But also if 720 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 1: you don't care, I don't care. 721 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 3: I know. 722 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: Well, it's up to you. 723 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 3: I mean, I live in like the northern part of Maryland. 724 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 3: I can tell you if you want to, I could 725 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,280 Speaker 3: tell you, like roughly, I don't know where in Maryland 726 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,040 Speaker 3: you're exactly from. I could tell you where I'm from 727 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 3: if you want to bleep it. 728 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:36,880 Speaker 1: Out, dude. I I today, someone swatted me like five 729 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: years ago. Have I ever told this story? Somebody fucking 730 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: uh like found where I live and they like, they 731 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: found where I live, and they called the police and 732 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: they were like, hey, I live at and then they 733 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 1: gave my address, like pretending they lived at my place, 734 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: and they were like, I live at you know such 735 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 1: and such a dress, and a man has broken into 736 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: my house wearing a and he's wearing a gecko costume 737 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,399 Speaker 1: and he has a gun. And the idea of being 738 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: they were trying to get the cops to come to 739 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,360 Speaker 1: my house and think I had a gun so they 740 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 1: would kill me. Isn't that crazy? 741 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 2: Yeah? 742 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 3: Where I don't know what scale you were at five 743 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 3: years ago to And I feel like I see it 744 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 3: happening to like these giant streamers, but like, were you 745 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 3: streaming at the time or did it just happen? 746 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? 747 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 1: The question is whether or not I had enough clout 748 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 1: to be uh, to be to be swatted. All that's 749 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: to say, I don't want that to happen to you. 750 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 1: You know, I don't want that to I don't want 751 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:47,879 Speaker 1: somebody to say, you know, I clean pool filters and 752 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:56,439 Speaker 1: I have a gun whatever? Uh anyway, ah fuck you're 753 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 1: uh your name one more time? Jacob, Jacob, Jacob. It's 754 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: it's genuinely, it's completely okay if not. I'm trying to 755 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: be a little more loose today. Sometimes, you know what's 756 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 1: funny for the past. For a lot of times on 757 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,560 Speaker 1: this podcast, I say to someone it's okay if not, 758 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: but do you have something you want to talk about? 759 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: And a lot of times I don't actually mean it 760 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,160 Speaker 1: when I say it's okay if not, I mean that 761 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 1: about fifty percent of the time depends on what mood 762 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: I'm in today. I'm I could take her to leave it. 763 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 1: We could talk about pools for an hour, But do 764 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: you have something you want to talk about today? 765 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,440 Speaker 3: Do you call me because I called you? Or did 766 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 3: you call me because I texted you. 767 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,320 Speaker 1: We're on the phone together right now. That's all that matters. 768 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,800 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, because I left you at text, 769 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 3: but I saw you might find interesting didn't read it. Okay, well, 770 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 3: I can reiterate if you'd like. 771 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: To please, please please. 772 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 3: I have this kind of conglomerate that I call the 773 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 3: Mysterious that is really a embodiment of all the failed 774 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 3: relationships and situationships I had in like middle school, high school, 775 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 3: you know, like kind of those early I don't know 776 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 3: what I'm doing, I don't know how to talk to girls, 777 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,360 Speaker 3: made a lot of mistakes. Yeah, and I call it 778 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 3: the Mysterious X because I like, I was kind of 779 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 3: the first of my friend group to really like start dating, 780 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 3: and me and my buddies weren't really like public with 781 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,720 Speaker 3: like we didn't talk too much about like the girls 782 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 3: we were talking to. It was kind of weird, like 783 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 3: the anount. We didn't talk about it, but when it 784 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 3: would be brought up, it's like, oh, I just kind 785 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 3: of you know, it's a conglomerate of multiple different females, 786 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 3: but it's like, oh, that is was just an experience 787 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,319 Speaker 3: I had with the mysterious X. 788 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 1: Okay, I have multiple questions. I'm also looking at your 789 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: text now. You said, dear GEK, life has been good, 790 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 1: but the conglomerate. That is, the mysterious X haunts me 791 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 1: too often. I also long for the nomadic lifestyle because 792 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 1: the housing market sucks and I do not dream the 793 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: American dream, but I feel held down by my girlfriend 794 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,879 Speaker 1: and current situation. Okay, those are two things. Let's start 795 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,359 Speaker 1: with the first thing. What Okay, when you say the 796 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 1: mysterious X. Ex. By the way, it's not like a 797 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 1: chemical or whatever. When you say the mysterious X. This 798 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 1: is a conglomerate. This is multiple people that you are 799 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:46,919 Speaker 1: referring to as one person. Correct, Yeah, okay, and these 800 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: are okay. So the mysterious X is a force that 801 00:41:53,320 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: is created by the traumas endured you at the hands 802 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: of all of your previous ex girlfriends. 803 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 2: Girl, yeah, pretty much? 804 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,319 Speaker 1: Okay, how many of how many ex girlfriends make up 805 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: this force that is the combination of all your ex girlfriends? 806 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 3: It was it was really like middle school high school situationships. 807 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 3: There was only like one or two that was like 808 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,359 Speaker 3: we were kind of dating but not really, but it's 809 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 3: essentially like. 810 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 1: Middle school. These are middle school situationships. 811 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,600 Speaker 3: It was like people I was talking to as like 812 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 3: you know, getting through puberty, like learning how to talk 813 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 3: to and like, you know, lots of you know, emotional 814 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 3: mistakes made. It's like just growing up learning how to. 815 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,760 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm only I'm only nineteen now. 816 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 1: Okay, I was gonna ask how old you are? Because yeah, 817 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 1: I mean, dude, do you guys, I you're nineteen? How 818 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 1: are in what way? Is your your middle school relationship 819 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 1: still haunting you? 820 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:19,320 Speaker 3: Unfortunately? It's like people that I still see every once 821 00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 3: in a while and like randomly come across them at 822 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 3: the gym or like there is still kind of in 823 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 3: friend circles. So it's like I get reminded of like, oh, 824 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,239 Speaker 3: you know, me and that person used to talk and 825 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 3: we're like a thing for a while, and now we're not. 826 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:35,080 Speaker 3: It's just awkward. 827 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 1: But dude, it's like, why is that? Why is that awkward? 828 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:40,960 Speaker 1: It's middle school, man. 829 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 3: It's it's really not awkward. It's just me stuck in 830 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 3: my head making it awkward. Like exactly full conversations with them, 831 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 3: like nothing happens, but like in my head it's like, oh, 832 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 3: I got reminded of that one text I sent to 833 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:57,839 Speaker 3: them that one time. 834 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: You know, dude, yeah, I listen, my friend, you have 835 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 1: a free listen. You have a free pass to be 836 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,880 Speaker 1: as cringy and stupid as you want in middle school 837 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: and high school. Man, you're your knight to Why are you? 838 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:11,960 Speaker 1: What are you doing with your life? 839 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 2: Now? 840 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: Are you in college? 841 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 2: So? 842 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 3: I was in college. I dropped out of community college, okay, 843 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 3: because I've been doing all this like concert media stuff 844 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 3: and ended up kind of getting successful with it and 845 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 3: making decent money with it. And I was taking classes 846 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,839 Speaker 3: for it just because I was interested in it. And 847 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 3: then I like didn't learn anything from my classes, and 848 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,280 Speaker 3: I was learning way more by just being a doer 849 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 3: and going out and actually getting stuff done and networking 850 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 3: and meeting people and you know, going to do stuff 851 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 3: that I was like, this is kind of dumb. I'm 852 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 3: just gonna stop paying for classes and just go do 853 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:57,000 Speaker 3: what I enjoy doing. 854 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:03,919 Speaker 1: Cool, Okay, all right? So, uh you have a girlfriend now, 855 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,839 Speaker 1: I do, well, So why and you're happy in that relationship? 856 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:10,359 Speaker 2: Yeah? 857 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, very much. We've been together, uh a little over 858 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 3: three years now. 859 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,719 Speaker 1: Okay, So dude, what I mean, I don't know if 860 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,520 Speaker 1: you're I don't know how serious you are about any 861 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:25,840 Speaker 1: of the ship. But like the conglomerate known is the 862 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:31,040 Speaker 1: Mysterious ex I mean is that Is that really a thing? 863 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,560 Speaker 1: That's like, you're in a you have a successful business 864 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,600 Speaker 1: and you're in a successful relationship. Why do you give 865 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 1: a shit about anything that happened to middle school? 866 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 3: I really don't. I'm really like past them ultimately. But 867 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,879 Speaker 3: then it's like, you know those late night thoughts where 868 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 3: I'm up too late, you know, working on stuff I 869 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 3: just like get reminded. It's like, oh, you know, I 870 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 3: gotta reminded that person or like one of them randomly 871 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 3: added me on Snapchat like semi recently. Is like all 872 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 3: this just like brings back weird, awkward memories, you know, 873 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 3: throw my mood off for a day or two. And 874 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 3: then it's like, you know, when I'm back to like 875 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 3: normal life and I completely forget about it. And then 876 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,360 Speaker 3: a couple of months later, it's like, oh, you know, 877 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 3: I'm reminded of them again. 878 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 1: You know what I'm gonna do, Actually, I'm gonna make it. 879 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,839 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make this worse. You want to hear something 880 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 1: that that will actually make you feel worse, go for it. 881 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:29,440 Speaker 1: You know how You're like you're uplate at night and 882 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 1: you start ruminating about like, uh, cringey stuff that you 883 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: did in middle school. Right, I'm gonna make it worse 884 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:42,360 Speaker 1: for you. And in just a few years you're gonna 885 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 1: be up late at night ruminating about cringey stuff that 886 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 1: you are doing right now. 887 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,719 Speaker 3: Cringy stuff that I'm telling a get go. 888 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,000 Speaker 1: On the phone exactly exactly. This is the kind of 889 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,480 Speaker 1: thing that you're It's like a cycle. You're gonna be 890 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 1: reminist saying on how cringey it was to cringe over 891 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,840 Speaker 1: your middle school ex girlfriend. 892 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 3: I just remembered, can I go on like a slight 893 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 3: side tangent, I have a little story that kind of 894 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:15,799 Speaker 3: pertains to you. 895 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sure, sure, Wait you have a story about story. 896 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:27,919 Speaker 3: So you had an episode recently about a woman who 897 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 3: worked with rats, and you talked about like, oh, what 898 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,680 Speaker 3: if one of the rats became sentient, and like would 899 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 3: you let the rat free? 900 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:38,839 Speaker 2: Yeah? 901 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:39,680 Speaker 1: Yeah I remember that. 902 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:40,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 903 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 3: Well, like the next night, I had the most vivid dream. 904 00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 3: I haven't had like vivid dreams in a while. I 905 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:52,399 Speaker 3: had the most vivid dream about a sentient rat that 906 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,320 Speaker 3: like came out of a pool and was like talking 907 00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 3: to me. I was like in my dream, I was 908 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 3: like I heard about this somewhere, and then I was like, 909 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 3: thinking about you in my dream talking to this sentient rat? 910 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 2: Is that weird? 911 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,400 Speaker 1: So you had had a dream about me? 912 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 3: Well, I had a dream about a sentient rat, and 913 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 3: then it kind of came like a lucid dreamer, I 914 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 3: kind of realized I was dreaming, and then I like 915 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:26,839 Speaker 3: was consciously like. 916 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,840 Speaker 2: Oh, this is what Lyle talked about. 917 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 3: This is like it's like that trained situation where you 918 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 3: like you can either hit five people or you change 919 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,000 Speaker 3: the track and it hits you know, one person and 920 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:40,399 Speaker 3: you're responsible for their death. 921 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,120 Speaker 2: It's like what am i? 922 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 3: Am I gonna let the sentient rat go? Or am 923 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 3: I gonna like turn it? 924 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,320 Speaker 1: Having the dream itself is like the train situation. 925 00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 3: No. Well, in the in the episode, when you were 926 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 3: talking to a woman, she like raises rats to be 927 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 3: sped to like cats and snakes and stuff, And the 928 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,080 Speaker 3: situation you posed to her was like, if you found 929 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,400 Speaker 3: the sentient rat, would you just let him go or 930 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 3: would you keep him there to be fed to the snakes? 931 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,439 Speaker 3: And I was like faced with that same situation of like, oh, 932 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,359 Speaker 3: do I like talk to the rat and let him 933 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 3: go free and just let him like live a ratitudy life, 934 00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,879 Speaker 3: or do I like turn him into a lab and 935 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 3: like let people do science on him and find cures 936 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:27,240 Speaker 3: to cancer or something. 937 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:45,240 Speaker 1: What's your name again, Jacob? I don't think it's weird, Jacob. 938 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:46,480 Speaker 1: Is there anything you want to say to the people 939 00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:47,440 Speaker 1: of the computer before we go? 940 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say, just just be a go getter. 941 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:57,640 Speaker 3: Do things. It doesn't matter what you do, as long 942 00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:02,359 Speaker 3: as you're doing something. That's been my one of my biggest. 943 00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 2: Things in life. 944 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,000 Speaker 3: I've gotten to do some really cool stuff I got 945 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 3: I've gotten to shoe for a bunch of cool bands 946 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 3: and meet a bunch of cool people and do all 947 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,279 Speaker 3: these cool things with you know, a hobby and an 948 00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 3: art that I never thought i'd be doing, only just 949 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 3: because I thought it was fun, and then I went 950 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,040 Speaker 3: and did it. And now I get to, you know, 951 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 3: you do what I love doing and make money from it. 952 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,359 Speaker 3: And it's a lot of fun and I love it 953 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 3: every single day. So just go do just don't don't 954 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 3: sit still. Just go do something. 955 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:33,120 Speaker 1: Thank you, Jacob. 956 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 3: Awesome, Well, thank you, Lyle. Have a good night. 957 00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:38,799 Speaker 1: Hey you too, man, good luck, good luck with the 958 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 1: mysterious X. 959 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:42,399 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. 960 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 2: No, no, I'm thank you. 961 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:56,440 Speaker 1: See Jacob. That was Jacob. Hello, Hi, Hello? 962 00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:58,200 Speaker 5: Oh is this the Get Go? 963 00:50:58,880 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 2: Yes? 964 00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:04,880 Speaker 1: Who is this? My name's Riley, Riley have do you 965 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,719 Speaker 1: ever see this show? This is fucking Nickelodeon show. It's 966 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,799 Speaker 1: called The Replacements. 967 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:12,279 Speaker 5: Oh, I haven't heard of it. 968 00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,279 Speaker 1: Ah, there's a character in the name, right the show 969 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:21,719 Speaker 1: goes Todd and Riley were oh so sad. Then they 970 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,160 Speaker 1: replaced all the people in their life. You know. 971 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 3: That's that. 972 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,319 Speaker 1: It's about these two kids and they can point at 973 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,440 Speaker 1: someone and press a button and they replaces them with 974 00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:35,480 Speaker 1: a different guy. Uh huh. 975 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 2: I one thing I ever watched. 976 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 5: Oh, we just looked familiar. 977 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,359 Speaker 1: Oh you looked it up. Okay, I'm looking it up too. 978 00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:54,440 Speaker 1: This is definitely something that uh what years is from? 979 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:54,799 Speaker 2: What? 980 00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 1: Who created it? Wonder what they're doing? Now? Wow's let's 981 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,480 Speaker 1: see created by Dan Santat. What's he up to? 982 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,240 Speaker 5: What did he get my text? 983 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,719 Speaker 1: Dan Satat was born in nineteen seventy five to Thai 984 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,160 Speaker 1: immigrants in Brooklyn before moving to California when he was three. 985 00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,240 Speaker 1: What's he doing right now? Hold on, he's a commercial illustrator. 986 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 1: Well he's doing pretty good. He's like put you always. 987 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:23,040 Speaker 1: He's making books. 988 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 5: Now like children's books. 989 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, he made a book called a fish boy named Sashimi. 990 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:34,240 Speaker 5: But did he get my text? 991 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,719 Speaker 1: Are you hold on? Hold on, Riley, hold on, hold 992 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,320 Speaker 1: your horses, Riley, Jesus Christ? 993 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 5: Can't we on talking to the get go? 994 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:48,520 Speaker 2: Well? 995 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:55,279 Speaker 1: Interesting? He was a commercial illustrator for GQ Russia. Oh uh, 996 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,799 Speaker 1: he's got two sons, a bird, three dogs, and a cat. 997 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 1: This guy is cool. Imagine you just make like a 998 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 1: like if you just have three years where you make 999 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,360 Speaker 1: a Disney Channel show and then you write children's books 1000 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,760 Speaker 1: and you have a and then you buy a bird? 1001 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:13,880 Speaker 5: Is it like a parrot? 1002 00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 1: It doesn't say what kind of birdie? He just says 1003 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:24,279 Speaker 1: he has a just says a bird, three dogs and 1004 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:29,760 Speaker 1: two cats. All right, what did you want to talk about? 1005 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:34,359 Speaker 5: I was going to ask your opinion on what you 1006 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:40,920 Speaker 5: think about if smut books h are equivalent to porn? 1007 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 1: Are smut books equivalent to porn? Well, smut books have 1008 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 1: from what I understand, I from what I understand, smut 1009 00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:58,560 Speaker 1: books kind of vary in their level of graphicness. Correct. 1010 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, and uh. 1011 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,560 Speaker 1: Do you I mean do you read smut books? 1012 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:13,200 Speaker 5: Yeah? I mean there's like that really popular one it's uh, like, 1013 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,680 Speaker 5: the really popular one is a Court of Thorns and Roses. 1014 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:18,640 Speaker 1: And who does that? 1015 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 5: Oh, let me check. I have the book, but I 1016 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,759 Speaker 5: haven't read it yet. It's by Sarah J. 1017 00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:31,120 Speaker 3: Moss. 1018 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 1: Wait okay, so you have you have the book, but 1019 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 1: you haven't read it yet. 1020 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:36,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1021 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:43,640 Speaker 1: But uh but okay, but you read books of this genre. 1022 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,280 Speaker 5: Like romantic fantasy books. 1023 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:55,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah. And do you I mean, do you 1024 00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 1: think that they are on the same level as porn? 1025 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,399 Speaker 5: I don't think so. But obviously a lot of men 1026 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:10,279 Speaker 5: like and like the Manisphere saying that, like it's equivalent 1027 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,600 Speaker 5: kind of but I disagree. 1028 00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,040 Speaker 1: Okay, well, so what so these guys from the manisphere 1029 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,600 Speaker 1: are saying their equivalent? What what's what's their arguments? 1030 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 5: I mean, none of the men in like the Manisphere 1031 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,400 Speaker 5: really have good arguments, to be honest. 1032 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,200 Speaker 1: So well, I didn't ask if it was a good argument. 1033 00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:36,279 Speaker 1: I just what is the argument of uh that it's 1034 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:37,080 Speaker 1: that it's porn. 1035 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:45,880 Speaker 5: Well, but you're like reading it versus seeing the actual 1036 00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 5: videos of porn, you know, uh huh, So I don't really, 1037 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,200 Speaker 5: I don't know. I can kind of see it a 1038 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:59,120 Speaker 5: little bit of being equivalent, but not to the extent 1039 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,040 Speaker 5: that men's I think it is. 1040 00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:05,520 Speaker 1: Do like the men in your real life, do they 1041 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 1: do they believe that they're they're equivalent? 1042 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,120 Speaker 5: Uh in my own personal life. 1043 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:18,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there is an aspect of okay, and 1044 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:20,360 Speaker 1: there is an aspect of it where it is like 1045 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:25,280 Speaker 1: genuinely for the plot correct like that, Like the plot 1046 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:31,160 Speaker 1: lines of these books are meant to be engaging. You 1047 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,400 Speaker 1: don't watch poor and for any sort of like engaging 1048 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,800 Speaker 1: plot line exactly. 1049 00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, And honestly, a lot of the smut books that 1050 00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:45,359 Speaker 5: are popular are more it's like eighty no, like even 1051 00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,759 Speaker 5: like ninety percent of it is just storyline, and there's 1052 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 5: like ten percent of smutt you know. 1053 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 1: I mean, are you jacking off to this stuff? That's 1054 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:58,040 Speaker 1: another big thing. No, if you're not jacking off to 1055 00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,279 Speaker 1: the star, then it's not even on the same and 1056 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:06,280 Speaker 1: it's not even in the same universe, right, Yeah, Okay, 1057 00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:06,960 Speaker 1: have you. 1058 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,640 Speaker 5: Ever read any spot books? 1059 00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:14,600 Speaker 1: When I was younger, I was like fourteen, I there 1060 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,440 Speaker 1: was I actually actually think I've talked about this on 1061 00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:20,160 Speaker 1: the podcast before, but there was this like website called 1062 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:24,240 Speaker 1: my first Time dot com where people would like tell 1063 00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,160 Speaker 1: stories about like losing their virginity and whatnot. I think 1064 00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:28,919 Speaker 1: there was just people, but a lot it was probably fake, 1065 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,400 Speaker 1: but like people would just tell like stories about like 1066 00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,400 Speaker 1: meeting someone and then like having sex with them for 1067 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,120 Speaker 1: the first time. And I used to jack off to 1068 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 1: that when I was like fourteen, But since then I 1069 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:39,480 Speaker 1: haven't really. 1070 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:44,720 Speaker 5: Been like, how did you even like come upon that? 1071 00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:47,640 Speaker 5: Because like when I was fourteen, I didn't even think 1072 00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,400 Speaker 5: of looking for something like that, Okay. 1073 00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:53,000 Speaker 1: But when you were But when you were fourteen, you 1074 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,800 Speaker 1: don't look for these things. They just they find you, 1075 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,280 Speaker 1: you know, like when you were fourteen exactly, like you're like, 1076 00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 1: you're listen, you're you read smell you're former Tumblr person? Correct, 1077 00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:04,360 Speaker 1: I'm not? 1078 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:05,600 Speaker 2: Actually no? 1079 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 1: I mean no, yeah, what was your site? What was 1080 00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,760 Speaker 1: your thing for? 1081 00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:12,920 Speaker 3: What? 1082 00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:14,760 Speaker 1: For the Internet? 1083 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 5: I mean it was really just Instagram and Snapchat. You know. 1084 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:22,439 Speaker 1: How how old are you? 1085 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:23,960 Speaker 5: Twenty two? 1086 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:29,360 Speaker 1: Okay? Uh, that's that's so that's a that's about that's 1087 00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:34,760 Speaker 1: enough of a generational gap. Uh. 1088 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:35,480 Speaker 5: How old are you? 1089 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,440 Speaker 1: Uh? Forty seven? 1090 00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:40,600 Speaker 3: You're forty seven. 1091 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,520 Speaker 5: You're like you were young. 1092 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,800 Speaker 1: I'm not forty seven. I am not forty seven years old. 1093 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:56,520 Speaker 1: I'm I'm who cares? Okay, so, I mean, what can 1094 00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 1: I say you? Why did you want to ask me this? 1095 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:03,400 Speaker 5: I don't know, because I feel like it's like a 1096 00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:07,560 Speaker 5: controversial question, and I've gotten like mixed reviews as to 1097 00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:12,000 Speaker 5: like other people's responses and everything. So I was curious 1098 00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:16,800 Speaker 5: to see your stance on smut books versus porn. 1099 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:25,640 Speaker 1: Does if I search up Rouge the Bat from Sonic Nude, 1100 00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:31,160 Speaker 1: that's not smut, right, that's like what does that count as? 1101 00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:31,400 Speaker 2: What? 1102 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:35,080 Speaker 1: That's what would you? What category would you put that under? 1103 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,560 Speaker 1: If I wanted to read stories about Rouge the Bat 1104 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:46,040 Speaker 1: engaged in in a tryst with Shadow or perhaps on 1105 00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:50,040 Speaker 1: on one regardable evening the Eggman, that would that would 1106 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:53,040 Speaker 1: be under a under smut? 1107 00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:56,240 Speaker 5: I guess I would. Yeah, that would be under smut. 1108 00:59:56,280 --> 01:00:00,960 Speaker 5: And it's probably gonna be on. 1109 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,960 Speaker 1: On what what bad? 1110 01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:03,680 Speaker 5: You don't know what good? 1111 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:11,160 Speaker 1: What wet pad? Yeah? W A T TPA D it 1112 01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:16,880 Speaker 1: does this is a porn fan fiction? No? No, no no. 1113 01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,960 Speaker 5: It was just like a like an app that you 1114 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:24,920 Speaker 5: could uh pretty much upload your own stories, like you 1115 01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,480 Speaker 5: don't have to be like a published off like a 1116 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,760 Speaker 5: like author or whatever. But some of the stories on 1117 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:34,520 Speaker 5: there actually did get published because they were super popular, 1118 01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:40,920 Speaker 5: but watpad was like a big thing when I grew up. 1119 01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:46,800 Speaker 1: At least, what was the most intriguing thing that you 1120 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:47,840 Speaker 1: have read on? What ped? 1121 01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 5: Oh it's been forever, but man, that I don't remember. Actually, 1122 01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:05,680 Speaker 5: I haven't been on it in years, Riley. 1123 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:10,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you should check out that show the replacements. It's 1124 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:15,080 Speaker 1: pretty it's I want I'm gonna rewatch this guy Dan 1125 01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,680 Speaker 1: Okay's so I'm inspired by this guy. He's had a 1126 01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:23,160 Speaker 1: really long and good career. Man, he's fifty. How old 1127 01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:24,880 Speaker 1: was he when he made the replacements? He was like, 1128 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:29,120 Speaker 1: my damn, he was like, what year was he born? 1129 01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:33,000 Speaker 1: Nineteen seventy five? He's thirty one? 1130 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,560 Speaker 5: Okay, so he was thirty one. 1131 01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,080 Speaker 1: Yeah that's pretty good. I feel like I'm almost thirty one. 1132 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:42,360 Speaker 5: How old are you? 1133 01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:47,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm almost thirty one, Riley? Is there anything else 1134 01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:48,240 Speaker 1: you want to say to the people of the computer 1135 01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:48,840 Speaker 1: before we go? 1136 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:56,400 Speaker 5: No, I still didn't really get your opinion on if 1137 01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:56,960 Speaker 5: you think. 1138 01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:58,480 Speaker 1: What do you mean and give what do you mean? 1139 01:01:58,560 --> 01:01:59,960 Speaker 1: And give my opinion? Well, what do you mean? 1140 01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:00,360 Speaker 2: Give? 1141 01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,800 Speaker 1: I totally? I absolutely gave my opinion. 1142 01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,280 Speaker 5: Do you think it's actually like equivalent? 1143 01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:08,360 Speaker 3: Yes? 1144 01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:10,560 Speaker 1: Well, I gave you my opinion. I said, it's not 1145 01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:12,480 Speaker 1: they were not even in the same universe. 1146 01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:18,360 Speaker 5: Okay, okay, perfect, thank you, that's perfect. 1147 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,680 Speaker 1: You came in here with some kind of I don't 1148 01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:23,760 Speaker 1: do you feel like you got what you wanted out 1149 01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:32,240 Speaker 1: of this interaction. I don't know I can handle whatever 1150 01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,440 Speaker 1: the truth full answer is. 1151 01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,840 Speaker 5: I mean to be honest, I'm kind of drunk. 1152 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:44,840 Speaker 4: Okay, and I didn't even think that I was ever 1153 01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:48,360 Speaker 4: gonna be able to talk to you, so I was 1154 01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:49,560 Speaker 4: kind of caught off guard. 1155 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,840 Speaker 5: I thought it was, you know, shot in the dark. 1156 01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,920 Speaker 1: You know, what do you do? What do you It's 1157 01:02:56,000 --> 01:03:05,200 Speaker 1: Tuesday night? What do you are you celebrating something? No, well, 1158 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,480 Speaker 1: every day is a day to celebrate. 1159 01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:13,120 Speaker 5: That's true. It's a you know, every day you should celebrate. 1160 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:15,200 Speaker 1: I'll see you around the universe. 1161 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,440 Speaker 5: Riley, all right, I'll see you. 1162 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,400 Speaker 3: Get go, dude. 1163 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:27,480 Speaker 1: Please tell me if someone else knows remembers this show. Uh, 1164 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:33,040 Speaker 1: it's a little strange that they can just like, oh fuck. 1165 01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:41,920 Speaker 1: Nancy Cartwright played the main kid. Gray de Leslie played 1166 01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,560 Speaker 1: the other kid. Why do I know who this woman is? 1167 01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:50,440 Speaker 1: She's like a super famous uh voice actress person who 1168 01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:53,040 Speaker 1: she played she played uh oh, she played Vicky, the 1169 01:03:53,040 --> 01:04:01,400 Speaker 1: babysitter on the line every nine nos Id just teaching 1170 01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:04,120 Speaker 1: you to how to have your life, but he's not 1171 01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:05,560 Speaker 1: really an expert.