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Speaker 1: The Big Bets on Campus Podcast podcast Poda.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we.

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Speaker 3: Go fifteen twenty twenty five, thirty thirty five, forty forty

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Speaker 4: The kicks block the college football world stundus, Oh.

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Speaker 5: My goodness, please stumbled and football the lateral turn, the

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Speaker 1: Don't you believe Notna came them up the field?

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Speaker 3: The Knights go. It's not the size of the dog

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Speaker 3: in the fight.

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Speaker 1: It's the size of the fight in the dog.

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Speaker 3: What's up the general nation? Welcome to the New VCS

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Speaker 3: as part of the Big Bets on Campus Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 3: stucky in joining me as they do each and every

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Speaker 3: Monday afternoon. The other parts of the New BCS Brett McMurphy,

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Speaker 3: Colin Wilson. Of course, as I said, I'm stucky. Gentlemen,

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Speaker 3: we are about to enter the month of October, one

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Speaker 3: of the best betting months of the entire year. Just

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Speaker 3: throwing some playoff baseball. Just got done watching that insane

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Speaker 3: Mets Brave game. I mean, I can't recall a bigger

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Speaker 3: roller coaster in a regular season baseball game. College football

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Speaker 3: too that it's just gonna be an amazing month of games.

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Speaker 3: This weekend good matchups. There's good matchups every weekend from

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Speaker 3: now until we crown a national champion. But next weekend, man,

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Speaker 3: you want to talk about a slate that's sexy next Saturday?

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Speaker 3: Is it? So as we do turn the page to October,

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Speaker 3: key takeaways is what I'm looking for here. Maybe just

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Speaker 3: one key takeaway of the season. I bet I'll start

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Speaker 3: with you.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Dock.

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Speaker 4: Before the season, I thought that the champion of the

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Speaker 4: SEC and the Big Ten would not go undefeated. I

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Speaker 4: still feel that way. I think maybe you could even

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Speaker 4: have two lost champs from both leagues. I mean, other

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Speaker 4: than Texas, nobody has really looked unbeatable, and Texas really

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Speaker 4: hasn't played anybody. Yeah, they beat Michigan, but I still

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Speaker 4: think Michigan's a seven eight win team. So that's I guess.

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Speaker 4: I'm waiting to see if that happens. And like you said,

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Speaker 4: I think we'll find out more that when we finally

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Speaker 4: get to October, once some of these teams start facing

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Speaker 4: each other and beating up on each other. Like you said,

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Speaker 4: next week, we have a lot of massive matchups, and

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Speaker 4: then I think we'll see some cannibabization, if you will.

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Speaker 4: Between we've already seen it in the Big twelve and

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Speaker 1: Extent the ACC.

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Speaker 4: But then I think we'll start seeing it in the

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Speaker 4: Big ten in the SEC as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Brat, you said Texas hasn't played anyone, the disrespect

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Speaker 3: to not Michigan but Monroe. You Monroe has not lost

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Speaker 3: another game besides Texas. They even won this past weekend

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Speaker 3: throwing for I don't know, fifty total yards with three quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: So my apologies to the to the Minros.

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Speaker 3: I think I think they already went over their window,

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Speaker 3: right you Monroe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad that we didn't have an under there,

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Speaker 1: but I mean there have been signs with ULM that

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Speaker 1: they were improving, and we liked their coach before another stop.

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Speaker 1: So and the Sun Belt's wild. We know, it's absolutely wild.

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Speaker 1: I mean even Sam Houston beating Texas State, did anybody

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Speaker 1: else have that on their radar? I was a number

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Speaker 1: that steamed and everyone wants Texas State to win the

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Speaker 1: far as it was the favorite.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's a favorite in the Sun Belt now.

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Speaker 1: You know, No, I don't. I haven't leaved the OS board. Yet.

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Speaker 3: Uh, that would be I mean double check. Yeah, James

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Speaker 3: Madison Dukes who I think. Yeah, my I can't get

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Speaker 3: very unlucky on some wind totals, but I never panic

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Speaker 3: about win totals. The first month end, you're there's a

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Speaker 3: start as far as conference futures, Iowa State way down.

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Speaker 3: Clemson is in a good spot. And Jam you we'll

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Speaker 3: talk each and every episode and you're not. We're going

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Speaker 3: to talk futures. We'll go through conferences, Heisman National Championship,

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Speaker 3: up just as a teaser. But Colin, uh, what do

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Speaker 1: Alabama eight to one is looking pretty good for the

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Speaker 3: Think, and you Brettni's trip. Yeah, I would like Georgia

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Speaker 1: way that we grade teams in the off season is broken.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one of my big takeaways too. I'm definitely

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Speaker 1: Arkansas Razorbacks, Eleven of the twelve guys on the roster

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Speaker 1: when these old misses pop up in college football, how

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Speaker 3: That only took Colin ten minutes to mention Arkansas basketball

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Speaker 4: Stucky, we've cashed our ticket. It's not even October yet.

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Speaker 4: Colin's done talking Arkansas football and he's already talking Arkansas basketball.

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Speaker 3: That's what happens when Tennessee on deck. By the way, Conn,

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Speaker 3: I might, I'm a stubborn man. I might be back

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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna play first half. I think I know,

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Speaker 3: He is the most profitable coach in NCAA history against

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Speaker 3: the spread in the first half. I think Brett played

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Speaker 3: first half already did Yeah, yeah, yeah, he is the most.

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Speaker 3: for sure. So, uh, now you're hearing rumblings of Kiffin

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Speaker 4: I don't think any quote talks are picking up. I mean,

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Speaker 4: he is, without question the number one, number two, number

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Speaker 4: three candidate that the big big boner, big big donors,

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Speaker 4: Big big boner, big boners on campus and maybe more people.

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Speaker 1: Listen to that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the big donors on campus, that's who they want.

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Speaker 4: They want Kiffin and the challenge was going to be

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Speaker 4: if ole Miss is in the playoff, you know, do

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Speaker 4: if you have assurances from Kiffin in his camp that

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Speaker 4: he will take the job. But yes, Stack, I don't

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Speaker 1: Something to keep an eye on.

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Speaker 4: You know, it was just a couple of years ago

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Speaker 4: that Kiffin, back in twenty twenty two was mentioned very

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Speaker 4: I don't know if he necessarily let it slip. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see that for sure. The Auburn does

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Speaker 3: But where again, go? Do you want to anything?

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Speaker 1: What happened last year?

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Speaker 1: I want to go ahead finish with you because I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because there's a there's a cap here if you

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. I just said I don't

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Speaker 1: So Peyton Thorne drilled the Georgia defense on outside zone,

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Speaker 3: Which they just saw with Milroe and adjusted.

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Speaker 3: That's the roller coaster that is Peyton Thorn. It's a

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Speaker 1: I think both teams are flat.

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Speaker 4: I mean Auburn's coming off the devastating lost Oklahoma and

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Speaker 4: You know, all the narratives, you know, all the touts

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Speaker 4: I think it's going to be a hard game to

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Speaker 4: I already took Auburn plus twenty four to twenty four

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Speaker 1: Just by simple.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's plus five point fifty. Now this might

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Speaker 3: The rest of their schedule. I mean they also host tennis,

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, that's important. I mean there's a million scenarios.

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Speaker 4: That gets them in. It's like something we talked about,

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Speaker 1: But stuck.

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Speaker 4: I really think you look at the rest of the landscape.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 4: You got the Group five and then the Big ten.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I would agree with that. I think the

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Speaker 4: Mean that's possibility, but you know.

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Speaker 3: Very unlikely.

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Speaker 4: I think that's less likely to happen than Georgia missing

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Speaker 1: Yeah, b Yu two and oher in Conference five and

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Speaker 3: How about Colorado?

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Speaker 3: I don't mind taking Georgia right now. I still think

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Speaker 3: they lose another game. It's not that that's are gonna

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Speaker 3: great bat by me this weekend. They got destroyed by Tulane,

437
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 3: so you know that USF doesn't look as strong as

438
00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 3: maybe some thought. Florida has obviously been disappointing this year,

439
00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:01,639
Speaker 3: and then Virginia Tech. Virginia Tech all this sudden looks

440
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 3: like the team everyone thought once they played Miami, they

441
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 3: didn't look like that against Old Dominion or Marshall or Vandy.

442
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 3: They against Miami they did, so hasn't really aged that well.

443
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 3: We saw the bad side of cam Ward and Clemson's

444
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 3: defensive line could potentially bring that out. So I like

445
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 3: Clemson in the a CC store. I think that there's

446
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 3: some value Big Ten. I mean maybe Penn State at

447
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 3: like six to one is interesting to win the Big Ten.

448
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 3: Ohio State and Oregon play each other, Penn State host

449
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 3: Ohio State. I think Penn State has been super impressive.

450
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 3: They didn't cover against Illinois. They should have. It was

451
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 3: the number one net success rate difference of the entire weekend.

452
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 3: There was a lot of games and a lot of

453
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,680
Speaker 3: good teams played bad teams. They dominated that game cold

454
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,040
Speaker 3: on Nicky's a huge upgrade. So because they host it,

455
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 3: like there's a chance Ohio State loses to Oregon and

456
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 3: Penn State and they're out of the Big Ten Championship,

457
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 3: theyre probably still going to the Kachwall playoff. They don't

458
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 3: drop another game, but that puts Ohio State into the

459
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 3: Big Ten Championship, and I don't see any other team

460
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 3: like Michigan. No, I don't think UFC is quite there yet.

461
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 3: So I think this is a three team race and

462
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,159
Speaker 3: Penn State close to six to one. It's not like

463
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 3: Ohio State and Oregon have been completely dominant before. I

464
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 3: give out a couple others calling any thoughts on either

465
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:31,640
Speaker 3: one of those two.

466
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Speaker 1: Well, I love Penn State because I don't think we've

467
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 1: seen the ceiling. I don't think we've seen the offensive ceiling.

468
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 1: I would venture to say that they have probably kept

469
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,239
Speaker 1: a couple of things under wraps. They do every year.

470
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: James Fraklin's always keeping stuff back, including Drew Aler's arm

471
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 1: last year. And when I look at their remaining schedule,

472
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: I've got six games they'll be favored by at least

473
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: two touchdowns. Toss up against Ohio State hosting, and they'll

474
00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 1: be favored out of USC a short, you know, a

475
00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 1: little bit over a field goal out there at USC,

476
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 1: maybe up to seven depends. They're also twenty to one

477
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 1: to win the national time. But you're going from six

478
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 1: to one in the conference twenty one in the national title.

479
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,040
Speaker 1: You need to get that buy you need to win

480
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: the championship. So you know, I have to do a

481
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: little bit of math and figure out which one is

482
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 1: more profitable. But I can't see a way that they

483
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: are not playing in the Big Ten Championship game. If

484
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 1: they do win that, twenty to one is sitting pretty nice.

485
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,640
Speaker 1: But I don't think we've seen the ceiling on Penn State.

486
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: ULM is ninety to one. They're one to oh in

487
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 1: the West. I get it, they're gonna be like twelve

488
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 1: point underdogs do a lot of teams over there in

489
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: the West. But they're ninety to one and they're sitting

490
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: one to oh right now in the standings.

491
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 3: Oh god, they can't throw. They can't throw the ball.

492
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 3: They literally can't complete a four pass. Brett, any any

493
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 3: thoughts there and any future thoughts you have.

494
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 4: I have one future thought. Matt Mitchell will have a

495
00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 4: coronary when I say this. You guys may also we're

496
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 4: not even in October yet. I already know who's going

497
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:02,959
Speaker 4: to win the Heisman.

498
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 3: Oh god, you want me to share it with you? Well,

499
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 3: of course, are you allowed to do that as a

500
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 3: Heisman voter.

501
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: Vote?

502
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:16,360
Speaker 4: I don't have one thousand and forty two votes. Call

503
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 4: me crazy, you know, racket, you know, save it whatever.

504
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 4: Travis Hunter of Colorado.

505
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 1: Will win the Heisman Trophy.

506
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 4: I believe that everyone else will cancel each other out.

507
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 1: I know what mill Road just did.

508
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 4: Travis Hunter by basically every talking head out there is

509
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 4: the best all around player in the history of college football,

510
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 4: plays two hundred plays a game, whatever the number is,

511
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 4: best defensive back, top five or ten receiver. You guys,

512
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 4: tell me that. And now the key ingredient Colorado's actually

513
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 4: looks like they can get to eight wins possibly. I

514
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,239
Speaker 4: think that's enough. I think there's going to be an

515
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 4: outcry that why does the best why does the most

516
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 4: outstanding player have to be on a team that's going

517
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 4: to the playoff? And I just think because of the

518
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,639
Speaker 4: publicity machine, the narrative, you know, I know we're going

519
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 4: to talk about Genti of Boise State coming up in

520
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 4: a little bit. I think that people will want a

521
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 4: zig instead of zag and for once give it to

522
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 4: someone that's not in the playoff. Obviously we did that

523
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 4: last week, excuse me last year with with Daniels. But yeah,

524
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 4: so call me crazy. Hopefully I'll be a little bit

525
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 4: more accurate than my stats and Bennett Heisman long shot

526
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 4: before the season, But yeah, guys, I really think I

527
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 4: really think he's going to win it. And it's just

528
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 4: simply based on the narrative that's already starting to build

529
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 4: from people out there about him and the Heisman, And unfortunately,

530
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,239
Speaker 4: that's what determines a lot of the Heisman winners, is

531
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 4: the narrative. And I think that snowball has started down

532
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 4: the mountain.

533
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,159
Speaker 1: Well, if you look at their if you look at

534
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: their remaining schedule, stuck, they will be greater than a

535
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: six point underdog only once the rest of the season,

536
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: and that should be about seven and a half to

537
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: Kansas State in that big spot. So I don't know

538
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 1: if you wait to see if they win that Kansasate game,

539
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: because I just have the opinion like they've got to

540
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 1: win eight. He's already he's.

541
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 4: Already second, like second favorite. Now his number, his number

542
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 4: is only going to get smaller. You know they're off

543
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 4: this week. It's just it's only going to get smaller.

544
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 4: I wish I would have had this thought when he

545
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 4: was twenty to one before the UCF game, But the

546
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 4: UCF game just really crystallized it for me that that

547
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 4: I I think he's gonna win it. Well, I mean,

548
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 4: we'll see. I could be way off but still two

549
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 4: months ago.

550
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I guess the Utah the Kansas State games,

551
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 3: if they win one of those, could really make it.

552
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 3: Because my problem with it is that like they play Arizona, Sinci,

553
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 3: Texas Tech, Kansas Oak State. Sorry bro, but like none

554
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 3: of those games are huge needle movers, where.

555
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:13,200
Speaker 4: Colorado, Colorado and Dion are huge neil movers. So I

556
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 4: get that, but I'm saying, like that offset exactly what

557
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 4: you're saying.

558
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like mill Road did that against Georgia, there's

559
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 3: gonna be so many there's gonna be a bunch of

560
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 3: like maybe not in the Big ten this year, but

561
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 3: it would be some of the Big ten, but a

562
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 3: ton in the SEC. Like take the the Georgia Texas game.

563
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 3: There's gonna be where you'll see someone a quarterback have

564
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 3: an amazing performance and then leap up and then late

565
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 3: those teams are playing more.

566
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 4: I agree, Yeah, I agree with that one thousand percent.

567
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 4: I just think I think those guys will kind of

568
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 4: beat each other up a little bit. I mean, Viewers,

569
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 4: or and or Manning. Nobody's won the Heisman since nineteen

570
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 4: ninety one that did not play every game. I think

571
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 4: that eliminates those guys. Whether that's fair or not, we'll see.

572
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 4: But you know, Alabama doesn't go twelve and zero. I

573
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 4: think that that would hurt Milroe a little bit. Plus

574
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 4: Ryan Williams, I mean Jesus, I mean he may take

575
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 4: half the Alabama votes.

576
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bay, we can't get him on the board. Yeah, well,

577
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:19,959
Speaker 1: I'm sure somebody will put him up.

578
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 3: He's not the best receiver in the country. That's not

579
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 3: on the board. That's Nick Nash. I think I would take.

580
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 3: I would put a couple of hours of Nicknash just

581
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 3: for fun. I don't think he can win, but we

582
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 3: might as well talk Gentsy right now and then we'll

583
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 3: circle back to other futures. I think genty has a shot. Now,

584
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 3: it's not a great shot. You're probably buying the very

585
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 3: peak of the market right now. But here's his current

586
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 3: twelve game pace two forty six for twenty five thirty

587
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 3: five over ten yards per carrying thirty nine touchdowns. And

588
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 3: you might say, hey, they played Portland State. He didn't

589
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 3: do any damage against port They pulled him in the

590
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 3: first half in that game cause they could have. He

591
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:04,959
Speaker 3: could have put up three under in that game. So

592
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 3: he's on pace for twenty five hundred yards and thirty

593
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 3: nine touchdowns. Barry Sanders has the record single season record

594
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 3: twenty six twenty eight, so twenty six hundred, twenty eight

595
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 3: yards and thirty seven touchdowns. I think if he breaks

596
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 3: one or both of those, he's got a real shot.

597
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 3: I think he's going to New York if he stays healthy.

598
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 3: Poise States probably got to go ten into it, worse

599
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 3: eleven and one would really help. But he's got a

600
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 3: shot there. For what it's worth. Nick Nash's twelve game

601
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 3: pace is one hundred and fifty catches for nineteen hundred

602
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 3: yards and twenty four touchdowns. The single season records receptions,

603
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 3: he guys, we'll get the sources of stomper later. You

604
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 3: want to put a number out there, who do you

605
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 3: think is the most What do you think the number

606
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 3: of the most receptions in a season is? FBS Colin

607
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 3: twenty Crabtree, No, right, do you have a number?

608
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: Uh?

609
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 3: One oh five, one fifty eight? But Zay jones e

610
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 3: c U twenty sixteen.

611
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: He's gonna made a kid from U mass A few

612
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: years ago.

613
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 3: There was a kid Insley from Nevada who has the

614
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 3: yards record he's the only only guy who's ever gone

615
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 3: over two thousand yards and Nick Nase on pace for

616
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 3: one fifty nineteen eleven and twenty four touchdowns. Troy Edwards

617
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 3: has the record touchdown record of twenty seven. He also

618
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 3: has the single game receiving yards record of four h

619
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 3: five at LA Tech back in the late nineties. So

620
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 3: I mean, if Nick nat I think Nicknatch if he

621
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 3: beats those records, if he has if he has one

622
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty catches in two thousand yards, unlikely. But

623
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 3: it's not like they've played nobody yet. I think he

624
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 3: should get an invity, but stuck stuck.

625
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: The problem.

626
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 4: The problem is, I'm I'm serious. I'll bet you half

627
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 4: of the Heisman voters don't even know who is.

628
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 3: Yes, is no chance.

629
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: That's the sad truth to it.

630
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 3: You know, gent does I think gens so about I'll

631
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 3: ask you for that out. If genty breaks one of Sanders.

632
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 4: Barras records, No, I don't think he can win because

633
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 4: the reason that you said that that Hunter would get

634
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 4: dinged at Colorado. The remaining schedule Colorado has. Colorado's schedule

635
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 4: is a light years ahead of Boise schedule, So breaking

636
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 4: Sanders record would help him. I think he would get

637
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 4: a lot of third place votes, second place votes, he'd

638
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 4: get some first place votes out West. But because he's

639
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 4: not going to be on national television that frequently, or

640
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 4: if he is, it's going to be ten thirty Eastern,

641
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 4: I don't think he's got a shot to win it.

642
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: I don't.

643
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 3: Crazy thing is Barry Sanders records did in eleven games.

644
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 1: Crazier he came out.

645
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 4: He came out at half of those games in the

646
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 4: third quarter, and the coaches tried to put him back

647
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 4: in the game, and he wouldn't do it. He'd say, no,

648
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 4: I pulled my hammy on it. Let the young kids.

649
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 3: Play insane season elsewhere. Future maybe NIU and the Mac

650
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 3: nine to one ish. I know they already lost to Buffalo,

651
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 3: which is why you're getting this number. But this is

652
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 3: a team that I think has real chops. And I'm

653
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 3: not a believer in Tweedo, not a believe in this

654
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 3: Mine Ohio team. I like Bowling Green Seal, but they're

655
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 3: at plus two to fifty, so I don't like them

656
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 3: in that price range. And they did just lose at

657
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 3: home to Old Dominion. Northern Illinois has beat Notre Dame

658
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 3: went on the road against NC State and loss. Yes,

659
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 3: how many yards in NC State having that game? One

660
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 3: hundred and forty, So that defense is real. So that's

661
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 3: another one I'll throw out. Kylin, I ask you UNLV

662
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 3: plus two twenty, is this the wrong time to buy

663
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 3: or because it looks like they might have upgraded a quarterback.

664
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, they did upgrade at quarterback. But you have to

665
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: look at their remaining schedule to see if that plus

666
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 1: two twenty. If you want to dip in the schedule,

667
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: the game against Boise where Boys is going to be

668
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: a favored by about three, you do have a tighter

669
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: game with San Jose State. Boise State. UNLV is a

670
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: lot like Georgia Alabama, and you probably want to buy

671
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 1: the loser of that game to win the Mountain West

672
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: because I don't see the way that who else is

673
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: jumping in in the Mountain West for the Boys and

674
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: UNLV train that's going on right now.

675
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody, I'm.

676
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: Looking at the numbers, but James Madison to make the

677
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 1: playoff at seven to one this remaining schedule, their hardest game,

678
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: their hardest game, I mean, they're least minus twelve against

679
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 1: everybody on their remaining schedule. Schedule is beautiful for a perfect.

680
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 3: Season, Colenston should be favored in the rest of their games, right,

681
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:26,839
Speaker 3: do you have that?

682
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me look it up, you know, and I'm

683
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: looking at my power rates. I'm looking at spplus. But

684
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: I mean there's nothing on here like like uh pitt ten.

685
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: So you get that team you saw that game is

686
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: seven and a half. So I just don't see it.

687
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: I mean, Clemson's got a clear path to face Miami

688
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: in the championship.

689
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 3: I mean some belt you know, it might be interesting

690
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 3: if you're looking at the Sunbolt is is Texas State

691
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 3: JMU are the co favorites now and haven't been impressed

692
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 3: with Texas State, right. Louisiana and South Alabama are next

693
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 3: on that list.

694
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 1: In Texas State and Louisian enter a coin flip game, Yeah.

695
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 3: I could see Louisiana. Louisiana's impressed me.

696
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: You know.

697
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 3: They they actually like outplayed Tulane, who then went and

698
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 3: dominated the USF.

699
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: They won that game as Woodbridge had to pick six.

700
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if kick returned for touchdown right after me.

701
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 3: But they just went one at week. So that's probably

702
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 3: who I would target in the Sunbelt. But yeah, we'll

703
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 3: do this every week because things change every weekend in

704
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 3: the beautiful world of college football.

705
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: I thought it.

706
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 4: Thought of two teams that would be tremendous because it

707
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 4: would be chaos for the college football playoff, and that

708
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 4: is Army Navy. They both have to play Notre Dame.

709
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 4: If somehow they get through the American undefeated, they play

710
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 4: each other. They would play each other in the conference

711
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 4: championship game, and then they would play their annual Army

712
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 4: Navy game the week after, which would not count towards

713
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 4: the playoff or the American Conference. So you could have

714
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 4: that's crazy, the winner of the Army Navy Conference championship

715
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 4: game lose the rematch, but they would still already be

716
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 4: set into the playoff because the playoff burst will be

717
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 4: awarded six days before they play their annual quote non

718
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 4: conference game. Wow, that will be chaos if that happens.

719
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 3: That's insane. I never mean I didn't even think of

720
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 3: that kind of rooting for that now.

721
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, Tommy Wilson isn't rooting for that.

722
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 3: But you and I, Tommy Wilson, and uh big boners

723
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 3: on campus, all right.

724
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: I found James Madison twelve to one. So let's make

725
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 1: that the official stamp of the I'm going to put

726
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 1: in the app after the pod.

727
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 3: All right, it's time for source the stuffer.

728
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 2: There I go. I don't claim to be No. Thirty

729
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 2: six az T.

730
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 4: Now, so Stucky leads ten to five against Colin. Colin,

731
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 4: you can continue to go first since you're behind. Uh

732
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 4: name the four schools that have never trailed this season.

733
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: Texas, That is correct, Stuck. I don't know where I'm

734
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: going after this. Uh Army, that is correct. Alright, we

735
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: gotta go James Madison, right, NOPEO Indiana that is correct. Yeah,

736
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: Colin got one more, considering the schedule was so poor

737
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 1: before they beat the pants off UAB. I'll say the Navy.

738
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 3: No, I think they were down seven noth in the

739
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 3: Memphis right yeah, UNLV Nope, Liberty, No, man, who is

740
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 3: this fourteen Tennessee?

741
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 1: Oh that's where I wanted to Tennessee.

742
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, mister first half, game three one, twelve to thirteen.

743
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 3: To six, have a bonus, BROT, you said, Oh my bad.

744
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for remindment.

745
00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 4: Uh name the only school that has started four to

746
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 4: oh in each of the past four seasons.

747
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: I mean you don't put any qualifications on it. So

748
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: I'll say, James Madison, No, yeah, there's no it's and

749
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 1: it's an FBS school, right, Okay, Stuck, what.

750
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 3: Was I watching this weekend?

751
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: I heard this, you're watching serior Lives of Mormon wife, I.

752
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 3: Said, I was watching the actual Mormons. Take my money

753
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 3: in Waco, uh, Penn State.

754
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: Yes?

755
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, then stay fourteen to say.

756
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 3: A good one. One more for the road before we go.

757
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 3: This week, compet two Esday kicks off their midweek schedule

758
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 3: two games on Thursday night. Next week they'll play Tuesday,

759
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 3: Wednesday and Thursday. Before you know it, we'll have Maction two,

760
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 3: which we'll always cover here on the show.

761
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: Why wait for the weekend, Strap in your fun belts

762
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: and get ready for Maction. It's midweek madness.

763
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 3: Calling it any Thursday leans here. I kind of like

764
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 3: uta Minor Nation, what a spot. I mean, you got

765
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 3: to get over ten Sam Houston's legit. But coming off

766
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 3: that crazy win short week, you tip off a bye,

767
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 3: which I think is really important for them. They made

768
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 3: that I think prudent quarterback change winless on the year

769
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 3: Minor Nations show out. For me, I'm probably back in

770
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 3: the miners here. If Sam Houston at UTEP and Texas

771
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 3: State at Troy, oh Man, I think I saw you

772
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 3: put a bed in on Troy. Godspeed. I'm gonna You're

773
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 3: gonna find advocate for Troy and I'm advocated for UTAP.

774
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: Good lord. Well, the number is too high, right, And

775
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: I know that that ULM Troy box score was horrific.

776
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: And I can't remember how many quarterbacks were in that game.

777
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 3: Six each team used three not because of injuries.

778
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the number, the number is way too

779
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: big for what Texas State has been so far. There

780
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: are a couple of things Troy does that can that

781
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: can limit this. So the number is just way too high.

782
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 1: And you know, the same thing goes for Sam Houston UTEP.

783
00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: I think the number is way too low. I mean,

784
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: I make it thirteen. I think Sagarin's at fourteen. I

785
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: don't know what you make the number, but when you

786
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: look at it like I mean, Sam Houston's is more

787
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: complete team, obviously, but they've had the same strength of schedule.

788
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: And you know, I again, UTEP's numbers are not near

789
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: as good because it's been a complete wipe. But at

790
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: the same time, you know there are certain things they

791
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: are doing defensively that as far as stiffening up at

792
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: the red zone. They have a good lineyard's number defensively,

793
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: Sam Houston runs sixty seven percent of the time, So

794
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: I mean, if there's an avenue, it's the fact that

795
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: UTEP is top seventy in line yards and stuff, right,

796
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 1: So you're gonna need all of that against sam Houston.

797
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll take it a little more. I just have

798
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 3: the spot circled and wanted more than ten was basically

799
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 3: the logic there, Troy. I think try only actually used

800
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 3: I thought that they used three. They might have just

801
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,720
Speaker 3: had a quarterback comeing and hand it off. Their quarterbacks

802
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 3: were seven of twelve for seventy one yards against ULM. Right,

803
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 3: Ulm's quarterbacks were six of eleven for one hundred and

804
00:40:55,280 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 3: thirty five yards. Just a disgusting game, the entire thing.

805
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: Somehow, I think I think you tip's live in the

806
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 1: first half after that. That win for Sam Houston beating

807
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 1: Texas State is a really really big deal to that program.

808
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, an emotional win too, like training, a quick quick turnaround.

809
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 1: Going to pass. So it's not close.

810
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, at Texas State coming off at in State rivalry.

811
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: They're gonna they're gonna be flat yep.

812
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 4: I like Troy and of course our our longtime listeners

813
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 4: from last year know what UTEP stands for. I agree

814
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 4: with it. This week, you take them points go Minor Nation, love.

815
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: It all right? Oh wait, before we go, did you

816
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: see that cal in Miami's being called woke versus Coke.

817
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: That's the most That's the funniest thing I've seen. I've

818
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: already asked for a T shirt. I like Cal, I

819
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: do like cal. I'm actually writing that up and uh,

820
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: there's gonna be some Havoc flavored narrative in there.

821
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 3: That'll do it for us. Before we get out of here,

822
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 3: let's toss it to mister Johnny Manziel and an excerpt

823
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 3: from a condo that Colin had with him earlier today.

824
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 3: That's up, that's space, that's up Tony football.

825
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: All right, Johnny. But we're gonna check in on a

826
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 1: couple of rookie quarterbacks inside the NFL and Jade Daniels

827
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: has been awesome for the Commanders through the first four weeks.

828
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: What ha stood out most to you about Jamee Daniels,

829
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: the current Heisman winner, and how high is his upside here.

830
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the thing that stood out the most

831
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 5: is obviously his completion percentage. Just I mean, he's not

832
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 5: the ball is not hitting the ground very much. You know,

833
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 5: he has every single bit of command in this offense.

834
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 5: Right now, He's made some you know, two weeks ago,

835
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 5: he made some unbelievable plays against zero coverage, you know,

836
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 5: just really really seeing the field. Well, I think him

837
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 5: and Cliff Kingsbury are an absolutely amazing match. You know,

838
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 5: Cliff is obviously the guy I've been very close with

839
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 5: for many years, an unbelievable coach, and I knew going

840
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 5: into the draft process that this was going to be

841
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 5: his guy. So to see this relationship developed to the

842
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 5: first early part of the season has to feel amazing

843
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 5: for him.

844
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 2: Because Jade Daniels is playing is go to football.

845
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 5: Not only has any rookie in the NFL, but it's

846
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 5: probably as any quarterback throughout the entire league.

847
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: Better QB number one right now and in the future.

848
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: Jadan Daniels or Caleb Williams.

849
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 5: I think Caleb Williams will continue to develop it and

850
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 5: grow as the season goes on. But where these guys

851
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 5: are right now and the way that you know this

852
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 5: season is played out in the ball that has been

853
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 5: played so far, it's Jadan Daniels and it's not even close.

854
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 2: And I really think if there was an.

855
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 5: MVP race for the NFL, I think Jayden Daniels would

856
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 5: be very, very highly up on that list.

857
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: Through the first four weeks of the season.

858
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 5: He's playing incredible football, seeing the field well, and they're

859
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 5: obviously off to a great start.

860
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: So very happy for him, Very happy for my guy.

861
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 5: Cliff, especially going back into a you know, Arizona setting,

862
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 5: in Arizona situation this week, who they played and get

863
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 5: in a win against a former team that you know

864
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 5: didn't want them there. I think anytime you get a

865
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 5: chance to do that and go against somebody that obviously

866
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 5: gave you the boot, to come out and have a

867
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 5: day like that and score as many points as they

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