WEBVTT - Rerun: We Are Still Not Okay

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, a production

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<v Speaker 1>of iHeartRadio. Hi, y'all, I'm Julie.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the

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<v Speaker 2>Other Side.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, y'all need to know that we are obsessed with

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<v Speaker 1>everything on the other side.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we are, because once you learn to navigate the energetic,

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<v Speaker 2>or to some the invisible world, life is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be more fun and much more serene.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh heck, yes it can, because, let's be honest, for

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<v Speaker 1>in Earth school is hard. In fact, you taught me.

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<v Speaker 2>That let's crush Earth School together.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, hello, my witchy food. I would ask how are you,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have a feeling your answer would be, we're

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<v Speaker 1>still not okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly It's exactly right, my elf, my yodeling elf. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>lots of talents, endless, endless, Yes, yes, yes, And how

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<v Speaker 2>are you?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? I'm actually doing pretty good. Like I'm actually okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I like, yeah, I'm actually okay. Mostly, I mean we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to get into some details.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're going to get into it people.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going but I think mostly, you know, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think mostly I'm doing pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, good, I'm glad to do I'm glad to hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you mostly okay?

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<v Speaker 2>I am?

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<v Speaker 3>I am?

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<v Speaker 2>I am doing okay. If I stay in my very

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<v Speaker 2>narrow bandwidth, which is where I like the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm in my house with my dog, I'm okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I truly understand that.

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<v Speaker 2>When I venture out into the world, it is sometimes stunning,

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<v Speaker 2>like I am so shocked and caught by surprise and

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<v Speaker 2>like wow, I mean from people driving crazy to aggression

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<v Speaker 2>at the grocery store.

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<v Speaker 1>I was taking this same thing. I swear hand to

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<v Speaker 1>my mama that that I was thinking I was. I

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<v Speaker 1>was had a scenario in my head when I went

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<v Speaker 1>to our one of our grocery stores is called Smith's here,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was a guy who was getting ready to

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<v Speaker 1>run a stop sign and hit me as I was

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<v Speaker 1>walking across the whatever parking lot to go into the

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<v Speaker 1>grocery store. And I'm like, no, what's your hurry? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still going to be there. Do you need to

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<v Speaker 1>kill somebody? And so it's weird. I was just saying

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<v Speaker 1>in my head, grocery store, what is what the grocery store?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember when there was a big push to

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<v Speaker 2>not text and drive where people like had to be

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<v Speaker 2>told not to text and drive, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And they they still do f YI, but continue you.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in the grocery store and I was I

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<v Speaker 2>turned a corner and I actually stood still as I'm

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<v Speaker 2>watching a guy pushing a cart texting and he was

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<v Speaker 2>going to hit me direct. I wasn't moving, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't moving and I wasn't going to move and say,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to see what this guy's gonna do. He

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<v Speaker 2>swerved at the last second, and like we now need

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<v Speaker 2>to not drive grocery carts and text at the same time.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, And that wasn't even the worst or what I saw.

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<v Speaker 2>Like my so when so my point all this is

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<v Speaker 2>like just reflecting back to me. You know this this

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<v Speaker 2>caused me to reflect back when we first did an

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<v Speaker 2>episode that said, you know, people aren't okay. Right now,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not okay. And that was almost three years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>just into the barely into the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably three four months or three months max. And to

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<v Speaker 1>the pandemic, we were like, oh, people are not okay, and.

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<v Speaker 3>It was weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything turned upside down, Like you know, for a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks, you can be shut down and like okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>this is extraordinary and we're all stepping up. But three

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<v Speaker 2>month a month in two and a month and halfened

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<v Speaker 2>like what is going on? The isolation, the freak out factor.

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<v Speaker 2>Going out felt dangerous and threatening, like we were not okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you know, being out in the world, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>we're still not okay.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we are still not okay.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's just there's it's we're on a different space

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<v Speaker 2>of the spectrum of not okay, but it's still not okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And I even think there's aspects of it that are

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<v Speaker 1>still fear based. But I think that we're getting far

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<v Speaker 1>more complex. I think one of the big reasons that

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<v Speaker 1>we weren't okay three years ago was there was fear.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you had to give it a percentage,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be pretty high. Right. It was the unknown.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, none of the people alone for the most part,

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<v Speaker 1>had ever lived through a pandemic. We didn't know what

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<v Speaker 1>this was going to do. We saw people getting sick,

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<v Speaker 1>we saw people and heard of people dying. We didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know why, you know, all those things. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was very fear. I think now it's different.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it is different because we understand there's a virus.

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<v Speaker 2>We understand how it's spread, We understand how to prevent it,

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<v Speaker 2>even though there are different ideas about that, but we

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<v Speaker 2>understand different ways.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a lot of good idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Cancel clinic.

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<v Speaker 1>It was sarcastic. I'm sarcastic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, And you know, so now

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<v Speaker 2>we're re engaging. So I think, like, you know, my

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<v Speaker 2>gap in reality is, you know, I expect people to

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<v Speaker 2>re emerge with a little more maybe just a little

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<v Speaker 2>more awareness, maybe a little more compassion with celebration. And

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<v Speaker 2>you do see that a little bit, but you also

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<v Speaker 2>see other behavior that's kind of intense, kind of feral.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of I think is a good word.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's and I get there is an element where

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<v Speaker 2>some people are less practiced at being out in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>I consider myself one of those, which is why I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, trying, why I'm so aware of these patterns

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<v Speaker 2>that other people may have adjusted to more than me.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm like, do we really want to adjust to

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<v Speaker 2>these kind of patterns, this kind of aggress aggression that's

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<v Speaker 2>in the world. And and like you said, maybe it's

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<v Speaker 2>still fear, but what what are we afraid of? That's

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<v Speaker 2>that's kind of what's what's rolling.

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<v Speaker 1>Around in exactly On that note, I think we should

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<v Speaker 1>take a quick break and come back and let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about what we're afraid of, because I think that's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of.

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<v Speaker 3>Things I want to hear. I want to hear what

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<v Speaker 3>you think, So.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I all right, We'll be back.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody, and welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I just we should actually be recording

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<v Speaker 1>the video part or not really my hair looks like shit,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's like, if people can see, it's hilarious. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry for the giggling coming into this segment or

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not really sorry, but my witch is insane. So

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<v Speaker 1>here's what I think. I think that we're afraid of.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's several things, but there's other aspects added

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<v Speaker 1>to it. But if you think about it, the way

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<v Speaker 1>people got sick was from other people, yes, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think we figured out how to be that way again.

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<v Speaker 1>That a person is not my enemy. You know. I

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<v Speaker 1>talked a lot about this when we talked about Suzanne's

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<v Speaker 1>cancer and how I completely overreacted to people getting in

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<v Speaker 1>my space or did I I don't know, if I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to judge my actions quite yet. But these

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<v Speaker 1>these people without masks, these people that were in my

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<v Speaker 1>space when I'm caring for my wife that at the

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<v Speaker 1>time we didn't know could very well have a deadly disease,

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<v Speaker 1>they were my enemy. And I also let them know

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<v Speaker 1>that in the moment. So have we for those who

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<v Speaker 1>actually believe that COVID is a real thing, because there's

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<v Speaker 1>still those that don't. But for the reasonable humans, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>have we been able to shed that, Have we been

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<v Speaker 1>able to shed that other humans are actually not our

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<v Speaker 1>enemy anymore?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that might still be in the nervous system,

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<v Speaker 2>that might still be in the nervous skins. For me personally,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't have like threatening situations.

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<v Speaker 1>That the whole time.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't leave your house hash take real.

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<v Speaker 1>But and you loved it. I mean, it's right, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>loved it.

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<v Speaker 3>Not untrue.

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<v Speaker 2>I was, but I'm not obviously not happy about the

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<v Speaker 2>reason why I was home all the time. But so today,

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<v Speaker 2>like like I said, my bandwidth is once I'm out

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<v Speaker 2>in the world, is my my tolerance is still low

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<v Speaker 2>for engagements like if something goes off the rails, I'm like, WHOA,

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<v Speaker 2>I got to step away because I am not a

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<v Speaker 2>place to navigate this, or I maybe maybe I don't

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<v Speaker 2>feel safe because I don't know what's going to happen

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<v Speaker 2>on the end of the navigation, like there's might be

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<v Speaker 2>tension that I'm not even consciously aware of in the

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<v Speaker 2>dialogue with whoever I'm in, Or maybe my capacity is

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<v Speaker 2>just so diminished because everything feels hard, like you have,

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<v Speaker 2>you know that we're still experiencing supply chain shortages and

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<v Speaker 2>things like, it's just.

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<v Speaker 3>Harder than we're used to.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, maybe I'm just spoiled or entitled in this

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<v Speaker 2>way that it's like I just not used to it's

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<v Speaker 2>got to be.

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<v Speaker 3>We got to find an easier way.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm aware that my tolerance is lower than normal

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<v Speaker 2>for things not going according to you know, my sanctioned

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<v Speaker 2>plan that no one else has sanctioned, you know, no

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<v Speaker 2>one else is aware of. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think there's also that term faral. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I said farrel earlier on the show, but you actually

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<v Speaker 1>said it we weren't recording, and I and I just

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<v Speaker 1>really was drawn to that because if you think of

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<v Speaker 1>what the difference between feral and domesticated is, right, it's

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<v Speaker 1>about socialization, right, And that's what I think we've lost.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do actually think feral is probably the best word.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also probably then this word we could use in

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<v Speaker 1>this is we need to redomesticate, redomesticate ourselves with other

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<v Speaker 1>humans because I actually firmly believe that we have forgotten

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<v Speaker 1>that we are here all together.

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<v Speaker 2>Because Yep, when when you think about what makes society,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like agreed upon interactions or politeness or practices or boundaries,

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<v Speaker 2>like we agree, and a lot of times those agreements

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<v Speaker 2>are silent. They're just reinforced with regular repeated exposure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we have social we have unspoken social agreements for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and so when you take away the gathering, do

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<v Speaker 2>those agreements disintegrate? Right? This is is this what's happened?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I really feel the feral part that

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<v Speaker 1>I really feel that I feel that like a feral

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<v Speaker 1>cat or any feral animal. But we always talk about

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<v Speaker 1>feral cats. You know, their goal is to stay alive

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<v Speaker 1>and to find food and water. Right, that's the goal.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how you say, for anything, that's how you stay alive.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're domesticated, you are looking for community connection, affection, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like you move up.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, and because food and water is provided.

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<v Speaker 1>It's because you already have it exactly right. And if

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<v Speaker 1>you think about a feral cat, they will fight another

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<v Speaker 1>animal for that scrap of food, right and don't care

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<v Speaker 1>what happens to that other creature because that's what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how we're acting well.

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<v Speaker 2>And the domestic cat, the domestic cat loses, right because

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<v Speaker 2>the domestic doesn't doesn't know how to fight like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It knows how to fight because it's instinctual, but doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>know like I've practiced this over and over.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and humans, I think what we've ended up and

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<v Speaker 1>in a place, and we see it play out sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>in households, neighborhoods, cities, you know, towns, different institutions. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we see it in government right now more than

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<v Speaker 1>we've ever seen it. We're not going to turn this political.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I would like to, but I won't. But

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<v Speaker 1>but but you see it like around the world, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's literally insanity because we forgot we're all here.

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<v Speaker 1>We forgot that we're domesticated.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think in a lot of cases that's what's happened.

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<v Speaker 1>The way that people talk to one another, you know, well.

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<v Speaker 2>And nobody's listening, oh faith right, and of course when

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<v Speaker 2>someone's screaming, you can't hear them, right, when someone's attacking,

0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:46.480
<v Speaker 2>you don't actually hear them. So we have to Like

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<v Speaker 2>so for me, when I'm in a situation like hmm,

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<v Speaker 2>now what I expected, you know, like literally this goes

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<v Speaker 2>through my head. This is not what I expected. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I have to make sure for me, I have to

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<v Speaker 2>slow down how I speak because I tend to speak

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<v Speaker 2>very quickly, which can feel when if you don't know me,

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<v Speaker 2>could feel very aggressive, right, it could feel what you

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<v Speaker 2>know now it's not pleasant, And so I have I

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<v Speaker 2>slow down how I speak, like, let me see how

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<v Speaker 2>can we do this? You know, I try and invite

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<v Speaker 2>them into a you know, co solving situation, like we're

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<v Speaker 2>in this together, because this is not what I thought

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<v Speaker 2>I was getting. I understand it is what you thought

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<v Speaker 2>you were providing, But you know, how can we renegotiate

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<v Speaker 2>this and find something that works for everybody?

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<v Speaker 3>You know? Like that's but.

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<v Speaker 2>I I really have to downshift into RENDI spaciousness and connection,

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<v Speaker 2>like this is what I'm trying to create in the

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<v Speaker 2>situation because my goal isn't to make anyone wrong or

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<v Speaker 2>feel bad about themselves like it or attack when people

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<v Speaker 2>are so sensitive right now because I'm I'm feeling like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm conscious that my bandwidth is narrow and my tolerance

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<v Speaker 2>and capacity at are lower to deal with things outside

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the norm, but I assume the same is

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<v Speaker 2>for them.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's you know, So.

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<v Speaker 1>I totally agree with you. I totally I think that

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<v Speaker 1>there is that ultra sensitivity, right. And I also think

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<v Speaker 1>it's really interesting is I've had more strange encounters with strangers.

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<v Speaker 1>How we are with people that we actually don't know

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<v Speaker 1>or haven't met prior to as I think we're reckless,

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<v Speaker 1>and whether it's the grocery store like we talked about,

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<v Speaker 1>like the confrontation that people do now they come in

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<v Speaker 1>hot and so my practice has been to stop, drop

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<v Speaker 1>and roll. That's what you do when you're on fire, right, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and again, since I am fire and if I have

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<v Speaker 1>fire coming at me, right, I needed to stop, drop

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<v Speaker 1>and roll.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's funny because I can. Again, my my engagement

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<v Speaker 2>in the world is still small, but I can think

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<v Speaker 2>of three occasions where strangers did something for like one

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<v Speaker 2>held open the door, one picked up something that dropped

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<v Speaker 2>when my arms were full like and one woman and

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<v Speaker 2>I had this little giggle fest as the checkout, like

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<v Speaker 2>just little like really kind human moments together. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's just interesting, right, It's just interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe I attract the assholes, is what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, no, no, it's not. Well, I'm just I'm just noticing.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm also again, I'm I'm trying to very consciously

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<v Speaker 2>navigate when I'm out in the world, even though I've

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<v Speaker 2>got lots of moving through and you know, just like

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<v Speaker 2>everyone else, right, like I've got to keep these things moving,

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<v Speaker 2>but trying to create those human moments, trying to plant

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<v Speaker 2>those seeds of like, hey, remember our humanity, because I

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<v Speaker 2>do think we've forgotten some of our socialization and some

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<v Speaker 2>of our socialization standards have have dropped.

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<v Speaker 1>Through the through the floor, they've dropped, you know. So

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<v Speaker 1>I so by tactic that I use when it's a

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<v Speaker 1>stranger kind of situation because I have sadly had multiple

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<v Speaker 1>run ins that I've never experienced in my life prior

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<v Speaker 1>to this, and and it's usually somebody coming in hot

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<v Speaker 1>and and I'll stop, this is my stop, drop and roll.

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<v Speaker 1>And what I will do is replay the moment that

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<v Speaker 1>just happened with some editorial and I'll say, so, we've

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<v Speaker 1>just met and you just said X, Y and Z.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that's okay? Like you don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>who I am. Like I tried it. It's like a

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a reflection. It's like a mirror. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to turn it so they can see

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<v Speaker 1>how they're acting because it's that absurd.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the reaction you get?

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<v Speaker 1>They kind of dumbfounded, because I the those that actually

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<v Speaker 1>bother the look, I think they're dumbfounded. I've had a

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<v Speaker 1>few apologies. I've had one guy who just kept going

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<v Speaker 1>on with it. I'm like, oh, dude, I just like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm walking away from you. You're an asshole. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>like that's what that's what I feel I can offer

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<v Speaker 1>them in that moment because I actually don't mind it

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<v Speaker 1>when somebody does it to me. I really don't, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's me so but I try to offer it so

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<v Speaker 1>they can actually see. Because the moment that somebody's able

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<v Speaker 1>to see and I don't do it like an asshole.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like this, you know, because I can't go asshole

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<v Speaker 1>real fast.

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<v Speaker 3>But you can also be playful really fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I can't. I can't, but I try to acknowledge

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<v Speaker 1>the environment and world we're in and the feralness of

0:18:45.800 --> 0:18:50.120
<v Speaker 1>who we are to just let them see, right, because

0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:52.600
<v Speaker 1>if they can see, a lot of them will.

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<v Speaker 3>Be like, oh, okay, yeah I did that. Yeah whoops, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like and then I'll look at them and for

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<v Speaker 1>the ones who kind of get like, do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to start again, I'll even tell you my name now.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's what a stranger I am like, right, It's

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<v Speaker 1>like how we want to lash out. And I think

0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:13.760
<v Speaker 1>it's the lashing out that is the part that is

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<v Speaker 1>so concerning that because when you lash out, like you know,

0:19:18.560 --> 0:19:20.760
<v Speaker 1>we've talked before, the one there's a few things I

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<v Speaker 1>really believe are absolutes in the world. And what I

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<v Speaker 1>do believe is that we treat people how we feel

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<v Speaker 1>about ourselves. So if this is an indication of how

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<v Speaker 1>the inner workings are of our citizens, the world population,

0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:38.960
<v Speaker 1>we feel pretty fucking shitty the way we're acting.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is what I'm saying. We're not okay.

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<v Speaker 2>People are not okay, and I just think, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I feel like that's kind of my mantra. No

0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:51.080
<v Speaker 2>one's at their best right now, So I've got to

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<v Speaker 2>be I have to be a plus in their day,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever our exchange is, because people are like dying by

0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:01.880
<v Speaker 2>ten thousand paper cuts. So I was in line someplace

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<v Speaker 2>and the person in front was just going in front

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<v Speaker 2>of me, was going off on the clerk, and when

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<v Speaker 2>I got up there, I just said, I'm so sorry

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<v Speaker 2>that happened. You know that their day is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a lot worse than yours. I'm so sorry, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And like you could just see like she's like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, you're not going to attack me to you know,

0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:20.359
<v Speaker 2>like she was just relieved, right, I mean, because you can't.

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<v Speaker 2>They can't hold all that, and no one can and

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<v Speaker 2>no one should have to.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Brenda, by the way, everybody needs to think

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<v Speaker 1>that if you continually treat people like that. I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 1>as a woman who is a clerk some show, was

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<v Speaker 1>it a man or a woman woman that don't be

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<v Speaker 1>surprised when nobody wants those jobs. Don't be surprised when

0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:51.000
<v Speaker 1>nobody wants to take care of you or or service

0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:54.640
<v Speaker 1>you or whatever. If that's it. Don't be surprised if

0:20:54.680 --> 0:21:00.360
<v Speaker 1>you're standing there and nobody's there to help you. Don't

0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:04.440
<v Speaker 1>that happened in the in the thick of In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we talked about it years ago, how people

0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:14.040
<v Speaker 1>were treating delivery drivers like those that were uh clerks

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<v Speaker 1>that at registers, waiters, they were all wanting they were

0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:24.520
<v Speaker 1>all quitting because they were being treated so horribly. It's

0:21:24.560 --> 0:21:27.960
<v Speaker 1>in the continuation of that, right, It's like, for the

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<v Speaker 1>love fuck, just be nice. It's not hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and it's it's all karmic. It's all coming back

0:21:35.320 --> 0:21:39.399
<v Speaker 2>to you, right. I have a friend who's uh, you

0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:44.560
<v Speaker 2>know father in law is very ill and in the

0:21:44.600 --> 0:21:49.320
<v Speaker 2>hospital and you know, refuse to go to was yelling

0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:53.440
<v Speaker 2>at the doctors who saved his life and uh, refused

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<v Speaker 2>to go to rehab and doesn't have any friends to

0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:58.399
<v Speaker 2>come to care. Like it's you know, people are like,

0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:00.399
<v Speaker 2>I've I've done ten rounds with him. I'm not doing

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<v Speaker 2>another one, you know, like people you know, yeah, well

0:22:03.480 --> 0:22:06.800
<v Speaker 2>we lay in the bed, we make right, yeah, literally,

0:22:06.960 --> 0:22:09.760
<v Speaker 2>And it's it's so conically, it's just really interesting. So

0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:13.399
<v Speaker 2>and remember these people, whether they're not nice or not,

0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:16.840
<v Speaker 2>they're in pain. So you yelling at them is not

0:22:16.840 --> 0:22:20.000
<v Speaker 2>going to help bringing attention to it. Like, hey, let's

0:22:20.080 --> 0:22:22.160
<v Speaker 2>let's dance let's try and do this again because I'm

0:22:22.200 --> 0:22:24.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, I may have misspoken, you know, or whatever,

0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:25.800
<v Speaker 2>like you can role model for them what it's like

0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:28.920
<v Speaker 2>to reset. But leading with compassion, I think is always

0:22:28.920 --> 0:22:31.200
<v Speaker 2>a good idea. So let's take a break, and when

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<v Speaker 2>we come back, we're going to talk about some ways

0:22:34.480 --> 0:22:45.320
<v Speaker 2>to reset and keep in mind our humanity. And welcome

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<v Speaker 2>back break, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Brenda took a nap to serve what he knows? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it quickie? It was like a disco nap back in

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<v Speaker 1>the day. Do you ever take disco naps? No?

0:22:58.040 --> 0:22:59.600
<v Speaker 2>I was thinking I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>She was napping, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>So we are going to talk about ways to reclaim, reactivate, remember,

0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:12.520
<v Speaker 2>reconnect to your humanity at this time when things can

0:23:12.560 --> 0:23:14.639
<v Speaker 2>feel very edgy.

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<v Speaker 1>So my health, yeah, I have, I will I you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I it's interesting because just everybody knows this was a

0:23:25.240 --> 0:23:28.600
<v Speaker 1>topic that you're like, hey, we need to talk about this.

0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:31.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, okay, like following along, like you get a

0:23:31.200 --> 0:23:36.359
<v Speaker 1>little elf sometimes, and and I was, and as we

0:23:36.359 --> 0:23:38.760
<v Speaker 1>were kind of doing our pre talk, I just said,

0:23:38.760 --> 0:23:42.400
<v Speaker 1>I go, it's so strange. And of course Berni are like, well,

0:23:42.400 --> 0:23:46.240
<v Speaker 1>what's strange? What's new actually, And I'm like, just yesterday

0:23:46.440 --> 0:23:50.359
<v Speaker 1>I was actually giving gratitude to the universe that I

0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:55.760
<v Speaker 1>was still alive. And it wasn't gratitude about you know,

0:23:55.800 --> 0:23:59.040
<v Speaker 1>a new pair of tennis shoes or like, it was

0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:03.439
<v Speaker 1>literally my life because I'm so glad to be here,

0:24:04.000 --> 0:24:07.400
<v Speaker 1>even when it's hard. I'm glad to be here. I'm

0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:11.600
<v Speaker 1>glad that I can learn. I'm glad that I can

0:24:12.080 --> 0:24:16.000
<v Speaker 1>spread my little elf in love wherever, whatever adience might

0:24:16.000 --> 0:24:22.440
<v Speaker 1>want it. Oh, I've hugged strangers, of course I am.

0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:24.399
<v Speaker 1>I should be a little bit more of a germaphobe,

0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:29.359
<v Speaker 1>but that's beside the point. But I am so grateful

0:24:29.400 --> 0:24:34.480
<v Speaker 1>to just be here. And that is probably the first

0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:40.119
<v Speaker 1>time that my gratitude because I've practiced gratitude for years

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:43.199
<v Speaker 1>and I mean it and I feel it, and but

0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:46.280
<v Speaker 1>this is the first time it was ever just to

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:49.719
<v Speaker 1>be alive and it was full stop. That was the end, Like,

0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:52.720
<v Speaker 1>I am so happy to be here. Thank you for

0:24:52.800 --> 0:24:59.880
<v Speaker 1>letting me be here. And that helps navigating I think

0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:04.959
<v Speaker 1>for me a lot of the feralness of our fellow

0:25:05.080 --> 0:25:09.879
<v Speaker 1>mankind humankind. So that was just that's one thing that

0:25:10.080 --> 0:25:13.800
<v Speaker 1>I just started doing literally okay yesterday.

0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:17.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just just instinctively right. And we know that gratitude

0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:23.360
<v Speaker 2>will raise your frequency. And so even if you are

0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:27.359
<v Speaker 2>in a situation that's hard, Like I've had this prayer

0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:29.760
<v Speaker 2>looking at my calendar the other day, my schedule, I

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:33.760
<v Speaker 2>was like, I am so lucky to have all these appointments,

0:25:34.200 --> 0:25:37.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, like affirming this is hard in the physical,

0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:40.720
<v Speaker 2>but my spirit is so happy to be engaged in

0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:44.040
<v Speaker 2>this way. Thank you for this privilege right in this

0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:47.639
<v Speaker 2>this honor of doing this work. And both can be true.

0:25:47.800 --> 0:25:51.520
<v Speaker 2>So it's not like gratitude makes all the hard go away.

0:25:52.560 --> 0:26:00.720
<v Speaker 2>We need the challenge to grow, to expand, to expand

0:26:00.720 --> 0:26:04.479
<v Speaker 2>our spirit, to meet our spiritual agreements we have, Like

0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:10.040
<v Speaker 2>that's why the challenge is helpful, So be grateful for it.

0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:12.200
<v Speaker 2>How am I going to meet this challenge with grace?

0:26:12.400 --> 0:26:13.920
<v Speaker 2>How am I going to meet this challenge and bring

0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:17.560
<v Speaker 2>my best forward? And like search for it, work for it.

0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:20.680
<v Speaker 2>That's what it's all about, in the best way, right,

0:26:20.840 --> 0:26:22.960
<v Speaker 2>in the best way, So much to be grateful.

0:26:22.520 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 1>For well, And I think that too. I think an

0:26:25.640 --> 0:26:28.840
<v Speaker 1>earlier point is you use the word I think you

0:26:28.920 --> 0:26:32.959
<v Speaker 1>use the word spoiled, Like are we too spoiled. And

0:26:33.040 --> 0:26:36.880
<v Speaker 1>I think that again things instinctive part of just being

0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:42.480
<v Speaker 1>grateful to be alive is the opposite of being spoiled,

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:46.399
<v Speaker 1>and I think that is a big part of it.

0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:50.879
<v Speaker 1>I think that there's a lot of well, I have

0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:53.840
<v Speaker 1>the right to do this, I have the right to

0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:55.879
<v Speaker 1>tell you what. I have the right and because you

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:58.440
<v Speaker 1>get a lot of that shit, I don't get that much, don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get that much here in Santa Fe, to

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<v Speaker 1>tell the truth. But there's a lot of that that

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<v Speaker 1>goes out there, and that goes on out there, and

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<v Speaker 1>because they forgot right, I think so much of what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening now is that we've forgotten, you know, we are spoiled.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that, you know, you use an example again,

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<v Speaker 1>pre talk about, you know, somebody who hasn't been able

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<v Speaker 1>to travel for two years, that they will leave a

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<v Speaker 1>trail of destruction to everybody else for them to go

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<v Speaker 1>do their trip because they haven't been able to and

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<v Speaker 1>two whole years. But let me leave my destruction for

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<v Speaker 1>everybody else to clean the fuck up.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like, really, yeah, who said that you were

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<v Speaker 2>entitled to travel every year?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Who? Exactly?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? I mean it's just it's just interesting and to

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<v Speaker 2>catch yourself in these stories like oh I thought that

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<v Speaker 2>that should be ready when the email said it was ready. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's a different world. I have to embrace what

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<v Speaker 2>is not what was promised or what was expected, like so.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh we do have to wait more than we have before,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that that's it. So that patience.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is where a mindfulness practice is really helpful.

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<v Speaker 2>And mindfulness is just noticing what is in the present

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<v Speaker 2>right It checks your expectations, It checks your your hidden agendas,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like, oh, I didn't even know I expected

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<v Speaker 2>that until I didn't get it sort of thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like oh that when you get surprised, just check in

0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:39.840
<v Speaker 2>and go, oh what was I expecting? And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>people who are really embracing a mindfulness practice will set

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<v Speaker 2>a timer that goes off every fifteen minutes. Notice what

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<v Speaker 2>you notice in this moment. Look around, what gets you

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<v Speaker 2>in the room in the present right now? What's under

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<v Speaker 2>your feet, what's on your feet, where's your attention, what

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:56.800
<v Speaker 2>are you touching? What's the temperature, where's your breath? Where's

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<v Speaker 2>your mind? Fifty minutes later, the time goes off, you

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<v Speaker 2>do the same thing. Like it keeps you so present,

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:09.160
<v Speaker 2>we get so caught, especially when we were disconnected from people.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't have to be present, we didn't have to

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<v Speaker 2>be accountable.

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<v Speaker 1>For our thoughts, none of it.

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<v Speaker 3>We just we just spun.

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<v Speaker 1>We watched a lot of television.

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<v Speaker 2>We numbed out, alcohol consumption, we consumption all went through

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<v Speaker 2>the roof, right, And so it's almost like we are detoxing,

0:29:28.520 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Like there's a there's a huge societal detoxing going on time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a good word too. Feral and detoxing are two

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<v Speaker 1>of the words of this show.

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<v Speaker 2>Which means I gotta hydrate, gotta move your bodies. People

0:29:41.320 --> 0:29:44.480
<v Speaker 2>like if we need right, we need more awareness of

0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 2>what we consume, media, alcohol, water, food, conversations, all of it,

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<v Speaker 2>Like what are we consuming? And you know, just try

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:57.440
<v Speaker 2>and make conscious choices the best you can. No one's perfect,

0:29:57.440 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 2>and we're not asking for perfection, but we can do better.

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<v Speaker 2>All these practices that will help you feel better about you,

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<v Speaker 2>in your body, how you're engaging, We'll just raise the

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<v Speaker 2>frequency of whatever you're engaging, whatever you're practicing. And then

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<v Speaker 2>of course there's always meditation and working with crystals. And

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<v Speaker 2>you've heard me talk about that a thousand times.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's part of the about the the the boundaries

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<v Speaker 1>that we need for ourselves, right and and routine, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because those are those things that can keep you grounded,

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<v Speaker 1>keep you calmer.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, well, it just it keeps it keeps you,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, saying you're you're in that safe zone. Those

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<v Speaker 2>are your guardrails to keep you in the safe zone.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love guardrails. I know you never get to

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<v Speaker 1>say that I love guard rails. I love them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you actually are.

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<v Speaker 2>You get you get devoted to them, whether it's swimming

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 2>or like you you're so devoted to them, it's brilliant.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, after my multiple concussions, I am even

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<v Speaker 2>more committed to like understanding where.

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<v Speaker 1>The wearing a helmet?

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<v Speaker 3>Do we're wearing a big bubble suit. Yeah, that full body.

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<v Speaker 1>Bubblesuity the witch and the bubble.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice.

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<v Speaker 2>But I feel like, you know, part of my consciousness

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<v Speaker 2>is aware of what I'm getting close to the line.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm close to the line, but I'm good.

0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm close to the line, but I'm good.

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<v Speaker 2>But now my commitment is don't get anywhere near the line.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't get anywhere near the line. So I'm saying no

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<v Speaker 2>to a lot more, which is humbling, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Not pushing that, not pushing the line. Not It's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna just have a I'm gonna have some nice,

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<v Speaker 1>healthy spatialness between me and that line.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that a lot.

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 3>I was going to see how this goes. It's my

0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 3>new practice. We'll see how.

0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:53.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna practice it too, then because and then we

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 1>can compare. I really like it a lot. I do.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know it's interesting too in this phase of

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<v Speaker 1>my life. I mean, I've gone through different phases where

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<v Speaker 1>I like to drink. Tequila was my thing back in

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:10.680
<v Speaker 1>my forties, and I'm just kind of a I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a drinker I think, which is is a choice too,

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:18.360
<v Speaker 1>by the way. But it wasn't like I was an alcoholic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like just doesn't make me feel good, you know.

0:32:21.440 --> 0:32:24.200
<v Speaker 1>I just I don't want anything that actually takes me

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<v Speaker 1>out of who I am. And so it's it's interesting

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 1>that I've even said it's like, yeah, I don't mind

0:32:31.800 --> 0:32:33.600
<v Speaker 1>a drink here or there. Can't have the last time

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<v Speaker 1>I've had a drink, I don't know. That's how long

0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:39.800
<v Speaker 1>it's been, and that is I think that's part of

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<v Speaker 1>the line. It's like, why would I, Wow, I just

0:32:42.520 --> 0:32:44.880
<v Speaker 1>don't need to do that. I don't. And again that's

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<v Speaker 1>just for me. Everybody can make their own damn decisions.

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to lecture holier than now crap, because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the farthest lem holier than now. But it's just

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<v Speaker 1>one of those example. I just want to give an

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<v Speaker 1>example of the line of I'm not even the line

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<v Speaker 1>I first had. I'm not even close to it.

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't even find it if I had to.

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't find the line because I'm just so far

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<v Speaker 1>away from it and that respect, And so I was

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to give some context to I think what

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<v Speaker 1>you mean by the line, because that's how I do,

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and for me, my my line is around over

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<v Speaker 2>committing right, over committing to work.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's yeah, yeah, to teach me yoda, because I

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<v Speaker 1>taught myself. I have more things to do, more responsibilities.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it's also kind of the gas that

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<v Speaker 1>keeps my engine going.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and everyone's got their own thing, right, Everyone's got

0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:41.480
<v Speaker 2>their own thing. So but again, if so, if you

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<v Speaker 2>feel like a mindfulness practice would be fun for you,

0:33:43.960 --> 0:33:47.240
<v Speaker 2>awesome that you can find all kinds of beautiful things

0:33:47.240 --> 0:33:52.480
<v Speaker 2>about it online. And also I strongly encourage people to

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<v Speaker 2>play with a boundary of three to five minutes of

0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:59.360
<v Speaker 2>meditation every day, just to reset, just to breathe deeply

0:33:59.360 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 2>into your body and know that you are perfect, that

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:06.040
<v Speaker 2>you are enough. Let that be the case, and let

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:09.000
<v Speaker 2>your like every aspect of you know it mind, body, spirit.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's again just say I am enough for three

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<v Speaker 2>to five minutes a day. It's a game changer.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop dropping roll people, No, it's a principle though. What

0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:26.120
<v Speaker 1>that really is it is like, you know, take a

0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 1>minute before responding to something. So I think like hopefully

0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 1>if people can do this mindfulness practice daily, they don't

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:36.360
<v Speaker 1>have to stop dropping roll. But if you do, just

0:34:36.520 --> 0:34:41.719
<v Speaker 1>like take that moment, because odds are you'll regret what

0:34:41.760 --> 0:34:43.560
<v Speaker 1>you're going to do and what you're going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, and again just taking that beat. What mindfulness does,

0:34:48.200 --> 0:34:50.560
<v Speaker 2>when meditation does, what stop drop and roll does?

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<v Speaker 3>It takes a beat.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm not adding fuel to the fire. I'm creating

0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:58.480
<v Speaker 2>space for the grace and and just you know, remembering

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 2>my compassion and my humanity and you know, creating an

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:06.320
<v Speaker 2>energetic opening for this engagement to shift into a space

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<v Speaker 2>of compassion.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start a movement, people, because you know what part

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:16.480
<v Speaker 1>of how things start is people will follow you. I

0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:20.359
<v Speaker 1>know if you are not behaving in the same way

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:22.920
<v Speaker 1>everybody else is. And let's say your behavior is healthier

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:26.600
<v Speaker 1>than the other, they'll notice well.

0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:29.800
<v Speaker 2>And remember at a high A low vibration can't exist

0:35:29.840 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 2>in a high in the presence of a high vibration.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, it will, It will entrain to you.

0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:37.560
<v Speaker 2>Right, it'll literally you create the spaciousness you roll model,

0:35:37.640 --> 0:35:40.440
<v Speaker 2>you beam it out. You're safe here, You're not judging you.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to connect with you, like Yeah, it can

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<v Speaker 2>be a powerful experience.

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<v Speaker 3>So report back to us. Let it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let us know what works for you. What do you find,

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<v Speaker 2>what you've tried, What do you find work for you.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd love to hear and walk away if you have to, Yeah,

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:56.439
<v Speaker 2>walk away, it's completely fine.

0:35:56.440 --> 0:35:57.239
<v Speaker 3>Oh I'm going to come back.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta know, you gotta know when to hold them

0:35:59.280 --> 0:36:01.520
<v Speaker 1>and know when to full know when to walk away,

0:36:01.600 --> 0:36:07.160
<v Speaker 1>and know when to run money. There'll be time enough

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<v Speaker 1>for counting when the dealing is done.

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<v Speaker 2>On that note, Her school is.

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