1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:03,119 Speaker 1: This is the Bloomberg Business of Sports show. We explored 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: the big money issues in the world of sports on 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Michael barn and I'm Scarlett Film. For today's show, we 4 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: are going to bring you a conversation that Scarlett had 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: the pleasure of having with a few soccer champions. They're 6 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: really soccer superstars because these are World Cup champions, Ashlyn 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: Harris and Alan Krieger. They are veterans of the U 8 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: S women's national soccer team. They now play locally YEA 9 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: for Gotham Football Club in the National Women's Soccer League. 10 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: And of course they also got married in December. They 11 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: adopted their daughter, Sloan. It's been a busy couple of 12 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: years and they now advocate for maternal health equity, and 13 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: we got a chance to sit down and speak candidly 14 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: about their experiences as adopted mothers and advocacy work. We 15 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: spoke in twenty nineteen, but that was like a lifetime 16 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: ago because you two have since gotten married, you became parents. 17 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: Sione is one and a half. You moved to the 18 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: Tri State area. But one thing that's been consistent throughout 19 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: is your advocacy for quality for women. For the LGBTQ 20 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: community for underrepresented communities at large. So there's been a 21 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: lot of change over the last couple of months. What 22 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: is your sense of urgency right now? Given all these 23 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: major events? The Supreme Court with Rob Wade um, Florida's 24 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: Don't Say Gay law, the detention of Britney Grinder in Russia, 25 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: all that, where do you stand? I mean, I think 26 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: with I feel that the lgbt Q plus community is 27 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: under attack and our trans youth is being targeted, and 28 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: um Ali and I have been advocating and pushing for 29 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: change and protection and fighting for safe spaces that we 30 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: can create. UM for all of us, I think that's 31 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: really really important. I think that's what makes this country 32 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: so special is the freedom to be who you always 33 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: thought you could be in live your truth. And we 34 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: need to have that available to all for us to 35 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: all be successful. And I think right now that is 36 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: our biggest fight. UM. As a child, I was able 37 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: to play soccer freely, and I was able as a 38 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: kid to find comfort in those weird times where you know, 39 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: either my parents were going through a divorce, there was 40 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: like turbulent times in school. I always felt comfort in 41 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: my soccer teams and I don't think we should be 42 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: taking that away from children. So UM that is my 43 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: biggest like fight at this point, is creating a safe 44 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: space for trans youth, especially in sport. I think for us, sorry, 45 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: I think for us, UM, we want to continue to 46 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: use our platform and speak up for for those who 47 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: don't have that voice. And I think if we don't 48 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: do it, who will. So we're going to continue that fight. 49 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: And I think there's a sense of responsibility for us 50 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: not only as athletes, but as women in the industry 51 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: UM fighting for other women, and I think across all industries, 52 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: and I think that it's really important for us to 53 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: kind of take on that role and UM use our 54 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: platform for good. And that's why we constantly UM try 55 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: to you know, share our views and beliefs and and 56 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: fight for I want to dig into that a little bit, 57 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 1: using our platform to share your views and to really 58 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: you know, broaden your message out. At the same time, 59 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: we've seen this big shift in the prevailing mood and 60 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: UM priorities nationally right UM spiking inflation, war abroad in 61 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: Ukraine and at home through these UM mass shootings. You've 62 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: also got a stolen economy. They all take center stage 63 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: and kind of people's priorities seem to have shifted. So 64 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: given all that, how are you adapting your messaging to 65 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: this shift in public mood? It is it through how 66 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: you frame that conversation, or or is it through the 67 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: language that you might choose use, or is it through 68 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: maybe deployment of humor. I'm just wondering how you're adapting 69 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: as well. I think you'll see something different from both 70 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: Al and I. I'm very blunt, emotional and harsh when 71 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: it comes to the way I feel about something. Um, 72 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: I'm very fired up about a lot of things going. 73 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: I love this country so much. I've represented it on 74 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: the U S team for twelve years now, and I 75 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: just it is so hard. I'm sure for all of us, 76 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: we all have different views and ideals and we want 77 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: to fight for different things. But um, I'm scared for 78 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: my child and in this current state, and I just 79 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: I just by sheltering her and protecting her and living 80 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: a privileged life isn't going to help the mass. So 81 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: Ali and I have to sit at night when we 82 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: put her to bed, and we always have these checkens 83 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: of how can we make this a better place, not 84 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: only for where we are currently, but what we're leaving 85 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: behind for our children, and I'm disappointed and where we're at. 86 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: So I have to continue to do the things that 87 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: make me tired, that push buttons, you know, you always 88 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: here in sports and anytime we speak up, it's like, oh, 89 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: stay in your lane, just play soccer. Well that's not 90 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: going to happen. And I'm more fired up about these 91 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: views and gun control and how we're protecting not only 92 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: the LGBTQ community but all of us. Um. So that 93 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: is what's important right now for Ali and I And 94 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: there is no right way, and I don't have this 95 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: you know, certain potion of how I do things. It's 96 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: when I really believe in something, I fight for it, 97 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: and by doing nothing, I'm just a part of the problem. 98 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: So I'm just constantly trying to take these moments like 99 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: sitting here with you today to try to drive and 100 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: move people to help change this world for the better, 101 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: for our children, for climate change, for inclusion, for you know, 102 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: pay equity, for women's rights, all of the things that 103 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: are being stripped away, um that we're mad about. But 104 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: we have to use that anger and put it into action. 105 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: And I think no matter what approach we take. Whether 106 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: it's you know, the same or different, the common goal 107 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: is to continue to fight and continue to have these 108 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: tough conversations and bring things to the table that make 109 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: people uncomfortable, because that's like when you grow the most 110 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: and um, you know your true character and colors show. 111 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: And I think that if we continue conversations not only 112 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: just in our small space within our home, but within 113 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: our family, our friends and really just have you know, 114 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: good conversation about how we can take next the next steps, 115 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: and how we can continue to fight to really create 116 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: this action and change that we want to see. So 117 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: I'm curious about the relationship and the dynamic to performance 118 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: and I want to bring up a question that are 119 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: one of our engineers, Kusha Maharshi has posed, Hi, you 120 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: go ahead, We love you too. So it has been 121 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 1: a research that group performance anxiety UM impacts historically disadvantaged groups, 122 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: and this is something that I feel people don't talk 123 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: about nearly enough. And I mean both of you have 124 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: been like key advocates for many causes including pre equity, 125 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: maternal health, LGBTQ plus rights, and in your years of 126 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: experience fighting for this, how have you dealt with the 127 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: ad its scrutiny about your performance and while knowing your 128 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: actions may be used to represent those of the communities 129 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: you belong to. Great question. That is a great question. 130 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: I think when you play at the highest level for 131 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: so long, UM, it's really easy to kind of get 132 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: in this this mode of I have to be my 133 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: best every single day, UM. And yes that is true 134 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: half the time in our profession and the environment that 135 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: we are in, in in what the coaches and the 136 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: staff members and in that organization kind of create. So 137 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: it is tough that when you do make mistakes not 138 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: to get immediately UM down about that and frustrated and discouraged. Um. 139 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: But you have to think that you know, it's okay 140 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: to make mistakes. That's when I learned the most. So 141 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: make them in the training environment as much as possible 142 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: as that in the game, I can be great and 143 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: I can, um, you know, show my best. I feel 144 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 1: like we have this conversation with one of our teammates 145 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: who called us, who was in that environment, UM, now 146 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: who's called us for a little bit of advice on this, 147 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: because it is difficult to be your best and stay 148 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: at this level because you're human, right, and you do 149 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: make mistakes, and so I think, um, having that performance anxiety, 150 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 1: UM of really going to work and knowing that if 151 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: you don't perform while that someone else could easily take 152 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: your job. But or human beings, and we have to 153 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: make mistakes, and for us specifically in our profession, you 154 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:00,719 Speaker 1: should make all the miss stakes you can in the 155 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: training pitch so that when it comes to the game 156 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: and you have to perform on a World Cup final, 157 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: that you are ready and that you are prepared um, 158 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: and that you've grown through that process. And I think, UM, 159 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: when a coach is constantly talking to giving you information, UM, 160 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: that's that's something that's really healthy and good. When the 161 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: coach or the staff member isn't talking to you and 162 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,079 Speaker 1: ignoring you, I think that's you know, when the worry 163 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 1: kind of sets in. But for us as individuals, you 164 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 1: have to think what can I control? Which is my 165 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: work ethic and my attitude. It's it's really tough to sometimes, um, 166 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: take information and apply it um directly, so you have 167 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: to kind of let that process work itself out. And 168 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: so for us, I think, um, you know, we are 169 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 1: great at what we do, But that next thought is 170 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 1: how can I be elite and being elite means that 171 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: you're allowed to make mistakes because you're a human. That's 172 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 1: clearly something you've learned from being a leader, from being 173 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: someone who's been around for a while. I'm cre used 174 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: to get both of your takes on team building and 175 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: team culture, because who cares about strategy If you don't 176 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: have the right team culture right, you don't. You need 177 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: a rock solid culture to be able to execute on anything. 178 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: You guys have played on some of the greatest teams 179 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: in history, two time World Cup champions, are now building 180 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: a team culture, winning culture at Gotham s C. How 181 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: do your roles differ based on what you do for 182 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: the club when building that culture as a goalkeeper versus 183 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 1: as a defender. I think the interesting part in a 184 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: group dynamic is actually understanding your role, and that role 185 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: is constantly going to be changing. You know, sometimes you're 186 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: the best, sometimes you're the leader, sometimes you're the follower. 187 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: Sometimes you're just waiting for your opportunity and you're driving 188 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: the standard for everyone else. So I think it gets 189 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: complicated on teams when everyone is trying to um fall 190 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: into a particular role, Like everyone wants to be the best, 191 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: everyone wants to be the starter. Everyone wants to do 192 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: all these things, but that's not what's going to create 193 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: a good environment, a functioning environment. UM. So I really 194 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: think understanding your role and being able to a be 195 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: okay with it, and sometimes that means taking a step 196 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: back and lifting other people and then when your time 197 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: is ready, when your time comes, UM, then you step 198 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: up into that role. And I think that is the 199 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: key thing for all the successful teams Ali and I 200 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: have been on is everyone understands their role. And when 201 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: you get to that point, it's magic because it's just 202 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: like this beautifully greased system functioning and all of its 203 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:46,599 Speaker 1: proper parts. It's it's just it creates magic. But it 204 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: is not always easy to do that. When you're talking 205 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: about everyone being at the best of something, I definitely 206 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: see that there's some conflicts in there because everyone's striving 207 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: at the same time. Can you be both generous and 208 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: ambitious at the same time when building this team culture. 209 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: Do you think that the two can go hand in 210 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: hand or are they inherently at odds? I would probably 211 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: say we could be supportive, very supportive, yet demanding um 212 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: because we want to win. We're winners and at the 213 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: end of the day. We all have to have the 214 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: common goal of how can we win individually but all 215 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: and be successful individually, but also how can we be 216 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: then successful as a team. And that is UM. I 217 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: think for us kind of being this experience. It doesn't 218 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: mean we know everything. Trust me, I'm thirty seven years 219 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 1: old and I have a lot to learn. Still. I've 220 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,679 Speaker 1: won a lot in my career, but that doesn't mean, UM, 221 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: I don't have enough more to learn, and I do, 222 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: and I can say that, UM. Every day I'm learning 223 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: something new. So I think from our perspective, we're older 224 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: veteran players who are very supportive and want to teach 225 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: how to be a professional UM to the younger rookies. UM. 226 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: But we're also winners, so we need to be demanding 227 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,599 Speaker 1: and we need to say, Okay, you need to be 228 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: able to do the simple things, because then the bigger 229 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,839 Speaker 1: things will be able to take care of themselves. Makes 230 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: total sense. Let's talk about your stature as business women, UM, entrepreneurs. 231 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 1: Tell me about the ongoing momentum and the moment that 232 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: you're having right now, UM and over the last few years, 233 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: because I feel like once upon a time it was 234 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 1: very much tied to the World Cup calendar, like you know, 235 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 1: there'll be a lot of attention every two years or so, 236 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: but it seems less cyclical now more sustainable. What did 237 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 1: you do to break that pattern? Or was it just 238 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: the passage of time and things changing overall in society. 239 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: I think that Ali and I want to branch out. 240 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: We want to constantly um you know, people like us 241 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,599 Speaker 1: sitting in the room. We want to be challenged. And 242 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: we were just having this conversation with Mike and Scott. 243 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: I think as a kid, we had all these things. 244 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: We wanted to be successful. We wanted to be the 245 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 1: best in the world. We wanted to be an Olympic 246 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: gold medalist, a world champion. We've ticked all those boxes. 247 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: So now we're just so hungry for life and more. 248 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: And that's what constantly inspires us every day is let's 249 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: branch out and do this, or let's knock on this door, 250 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 1: let's break through this wall. And I think constantly trying 251 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 1: to stay out of the lane. I just don't think 252 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: you create change staying in your lane. So and Aliana 253 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: are not scared to fail like I failed. My whole 254 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: life was the most recent failure. Most recent failure for 255 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: me would be um, probably not going to the last 256 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: Olympics last year. It would be like my biggest, biggest 257 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: failure because I felt like it was my moment um 258 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: and it I just felt short. And that's okay, and 259 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: we all do it. But I'm never scared of it, 260 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: like I'm not. I'm not scared of challenges. I'm not 261 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: scared of not being picked. I'm not scared of not 262 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: being liked. Um. I'm year to be the best version 263 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 1: of myself every single day and I find comfort in that. 264 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: And no matter what people say about me and all 265 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: these critics or you know, performances like we were talking about, no, 266 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: no one's harder on me than myself, And I find 267 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: comfort in that. There's nothing anyone can say to me 268 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: in this room that would hurt me more than how 269 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: much pressure I put on myself to be the best 270 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: version of myself every day, to be the entrepreneur, to 271 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: break ceilings for women and people in my community, to 272 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: be the absolute best partner, to be the absolute best mom. 273 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: I really feel in my life, I hold tight to 274 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: this of how how you do anything is how you 275 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: do everything. If I'm washing my car, I'm out there 276 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: for two and a half hours and you won't see seriously, 277 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: and I there is not a but that is the 278 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 1: way I agree. It is listen. Like, honestly, when you 279 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: talk about teamwork and you talk about all these things 280 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: and these people you know in this room, it's so 281 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: interesting to me because what people don't see is what 282 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: I do behind closed doors. I'm cut corners and anything 283 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: I do. So it's when life looks elaborate and beautiful 284 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: and I'm winning gold medals like that's great. I don't 285 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: work hard when people are looking at me, when the 286 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: spotlights on me. My preparation I take like the question 287 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: you asked, Preparation is everything if you if you're not 288 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: prepared in your moment, you will fall short. But you 289 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: have to own that. So to me, I hold tight 290 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: and all the work I do when no one's watching, 291 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: that's my that's my anchor in life. The success is 292 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: being successful is what you do every single day. So 293 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: success is what you do every single day. The little things. 294 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: We're always thinking about how to serve the modern leader. 295 00:16:55,960 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: Um and I'm curious, as someone who's building teams, building culture, 296 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: representing leadership on your respective teams, how do you stay informed? 297 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: How do you stay ahead of the curve. How do 298 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: you make sure you're leading and not following trends or 299 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: whatever else is happening following the conversation. You want to 300 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: be leading the conversation. Yeah, having good communication and great awareness. 301 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: I feel like UM, specifically within our job, UM, I 302 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: think that we can do really well connecting with individuals 303 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: and UM having great communication and conversations and making sure 304 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,440 Speaker 1: everyone's okay and has everything they need in order to 305 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: be successful. I think that is what a team is 306 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: all about. UM. If we see a teammate maybe struggling 307 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: that day, UM, you know, you you go and you 308 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: check in and you have those conversations to make sure 309 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: that individuals have what they need, because ultimately you want 310 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: the team to win. And so I think we try 311 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 1: to do anything in our power to really elevate UM 312 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: the environment by connecting with individuals, making sure that people 313 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: know we care UM, and then you know that's awarenes 314 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: us and then also just yeah, the communication is a 315 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: huge piece I think, both on and off the field. UM. 316 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: That's how I think we've our leadership qualities really shine 317 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: UM in those moments and then making sure yeah, people 318 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: know that you care. UM. We're not just footballers. We're 319 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: not defined just by playing soccer. I think we're much 320 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: more than that. And I think being in a team environment, 321 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: you really need to make sure that your teammates know 322 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: that you care about them and that um you will 323 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: do anything to help lift them and create a safe 324 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: space in order to win. And part of that is 325 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: owning who you are in public as well. I know 326 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 1: for years you both kept a relationship kind of private 327 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: and quiet for fear that perhaps it would jeopardize some 328 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: endorsement opportunities. UM limited in any way, now that that's 329 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: no longer the case at all, has publicly celebrating a 330 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: relationship thinking back costs you financially in any way? Well, 331 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: I think, honestly, what do you say, it might have 332 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: enhanced it? Yeah, it's honestly. The truth is, as soon 333 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: as Ali and I started genuinely living our truth, our 334 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: life changed because so many people saw something in themselves 335 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 1: in us, and it allowed them this space to live 336 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: their truth to come out. You know, I just played 337 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: in Louisville this weekend and this lady came up to 338 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: me and she said, I'm fifty seven years old and 339 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: I adore you guys, you helped me come out Like 340 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: I was married and I had children, and I was 341 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: living this life that I thought I was supposed to 342 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: and it didn't necessarily make me happy, and hearing your story, 343 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: I just knew it was never too late for me. 344 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:43,719 Speaker 1: And like that type of impact is so much more 345 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: important than the gold medals. Sitting at the house collecting 346 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: dust on my shelf. You know, they're they're nice, they're nice, 347 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: but truthfully, I mean to be able to just openly 348 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 1: live my truth and you know, with my wife and 349 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: my child, if I can impact someone in a really 350 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,159 Speaker 1: small way to get the best version of themselves, Like 351 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: I'm doing my job, and that's what we're all here 352 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: to do. We're here to show up for each other. 353 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: You know, we battle and work. We all want to 354 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: be the best at what we do. That's what drives us. 355 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you know, we 356 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: have to there's a human element to everything, and um, 357 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: I've taken that part of my career very very seriously 358 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: lately because I want to impact as many people as 359 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: I can while I still have the juice, if you 360 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I'm like getting old, My knees 361 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: are getting old. But I, like I wanted, how are 362 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: people to live the life they imagined? And sometimes they 363 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: just need a few tools to figure out how that 364 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: works and how to operate in that space. And first, 365 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: it's just being okay with who you are, genuinely, like, 366 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: there's no smoke in mirrors with me. I'm always going 367 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: to to tell you you know who I am and 368 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: and why that is. But it took me a long 369 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: time to get there. So I'm enjoying the process of 370 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: being open um with my family and open with my 371 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: wife and my career because it's inspiring other people to 372 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: do so. Clearly, you're in a new city, it's a 373 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 1: new phase in your life. You're focusing on your new family, 374 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: on your new club. What does this next phase as 375 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: businesswomen as entrepreneurs look like? Are you investing in other businesses? 376 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: Are you building something else? Could Scott interest you in 377 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: a show on Quick Take for instance, And we were 378 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: trying to get in there. We did talk about it, 379 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: We did talk about it. We're going to have to 380 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 1: schedule another meeting, Yeah, yeah, we would. Um, you know, 381 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: like I said before, football doesn't define us. We're much 382 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: more than that. And um, I think what attracts us 383 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: is the connection with human beings and people UM, who 384 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: are also um, you know, wanting to be the best 385 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: in their industry and in their field. UM. And I 386 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 1: think you know we've discussed this before, just having that 387 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: connection with people, UM, kind of peeling off the layers 388 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: and not just having the surface conversations. I think it's 389 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: important to to find out what drives everyone to want 390 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: to be the best and want to be successful. And UM, 391 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: we've talked about that, having good discussions over you know, 392 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: through culture and fashion and athletics and just kind of 393 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: digging a little deeper. We might um, you know, we 394 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: have a few ideas of what we want to do. UM. 395 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: So it might not be the place. Yeah, that might 396 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: not got a place right now to this guys it, 397 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: but no, we UM want to stay. We were talking 398 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: to Mike and Scott earlier and also Brian about you know, 399 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: we've we've tried to perfect this craft for over thirty 400 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: years now, so you know, we don't want to just 401 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: go and be like a plumber. Right. Nothing against plumbers, 402 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: I think that's that's a that's great, very smart and 403 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: you know that's they're good at what they do. But 404 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: something for us is like we want to stay within 405 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: the games somehow, um, in some way, shape or form. 406 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: So we don't really know, um, how to navigate that. 407 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: Yet we have very great ideas and we're very passionate 408 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: about certain projects, UM that we want to work on. 409 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, we we want to connect with people, and 410 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: we want to continue to impact people's lives and we 411 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: want to continue to push people to want to be 412 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: their best and so we have to kind of figure 413 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: out how we're going to do that in the next phase. 414 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: But you know, we're really enjoying playing right now with 415 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,400 Speaker 1: Gotham FC, and we want to win a championship. That's 416 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: why I played this long. I'm like, okay, can we 417 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: you know, like hang up the boots and some of 418 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: my my body is like going through it, but um, 419 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: it's been really enjoyable and you can't play forever. So 420 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 1: we want to, you know, play as much as we 421 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: can and really enjoy our time with the team and 422 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: in that environment. UM because we've built lifelong friendships to 423 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: within that environment and so we're very grateful for that 424 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: and want to give as much to the game as 425 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: we can while we're able to. UM. But yeah, that 426 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: the next step UM for us is to continue to 427 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: connect with people and and figure out how we can 428 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: impact and continue to stay visible. That was my conversation 429 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 1: with World Cup champions Ashlyn Harris and Ali Krieger. Cool 430 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: that does it. For the Bloomberg Business of Sports podcast, 431 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 1: I'm Michael Barr along with Scarlet Foo. Catch us here 432 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: each and every Monday, Wednesday and Thursday exploring the world 433 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: of money in sports, and catch me on Twitter at 434 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 1: Big Bar Sports and of course I'm on Twitter at 435 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: Scarlett Fool. 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