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Speaker 1: for those many of you do, you can follow me

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Speaker 1: on social media at John Middlecoff, Twitter, Instagram, you name it.

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Speaker 1: I used to work in the NFL from California, Uh,

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Speaker 1: scouted a little bit, worked in college football. But we'll

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Speaker 1: get to the introductions later for for you new folks.

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Speaker 1: But we're gonna talk about the playoffs Saturday. We got

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Speaker 1: enjoy it while we got it. Because I love the draft,

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Speaker 1: I love free agency, I love all those stories as

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Speaker 1: much as anyone. But there's nothing beats the games. That's

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Speaker 1: actual games. Uh. So we'll dive into that right now. Also,

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Speaker 1: And sometimes I get triggered by people triggered on social media.

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Speaker 1: And it's just it's a good example of the media

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Speaker 1: in pro sports, winning and losing. That's the whole point

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Speaker 1: decent amount of credit for it. Uh. He was a

426
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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVeigh. He was really the first

427
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 1: skinny white guy. Uh. That kind of started this whole trend.

428
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 1: Don't don't get that twisted. It started with him, uh

429
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 1: and Peyton Manning's love for him. Things didn't go great

430
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,360
Speaker 1: in Miami, but in fairness, he didn't pick the players.

431
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,879
Speaker 1: Tanny Hill kept getting hurt. I think he's gonna be

432
00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,560
Speaker 1: a pretty good coach. I mean, I think he is

433
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 1: a good coach. He's a good offensive coach. But he

434
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 1: needs help now. As press conference did not go very well.

435
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 1: It looked like and it had nothing to do with

436
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 1: anything he said, it looked like he was on drugs.

437
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: His eyes were all over the place. Maybe he's just

438
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,640
Speaker 1: a different dude. I don't know. I've never met him,

439
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 1: but it was not ideal, especially with the New York media.

440
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,480
Speaker 1: But I will say this, my big question mark on him,

441
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,960
Speaker 1: and from what I've heard from people that know him,

442
00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,480
Speaker 1: is he's just got a huge ego. He's very headstrong,

443
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: and with players, you get into his doghouse. It's hard

444
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 1: to get out of his doghouse. And I think the

445
00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: best coaches when it ms two good players, are open minded.

446
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 1: You know, you can't just I'm I can't stand Jarvis Landry. No,

447
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: you have to make it work. You know, I'm all

448
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,239
Speaker 1: four fringe players, not wanting to coach them up. I

449
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 1: hate average to below average players as much as any coach,

450
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: so I don't blame you, but when it comes to

451
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: high end starters to really good players, you can get

452
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,239
Speaker 1: mad at him or whatever and be down on him

453
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 1: on a given week, but you have to look to

454
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 1: make it work. That that is a fact, and he

455
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 1: did not do a good job of that in Miami.

456
00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: But I will say this, his ego really big. He

457
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: made an exceptional hire in Greg Williams. Ego really big.

458
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 1: And to me, if you're gonna work with another person

459
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: where both of you think you, you know, invented the

460
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: game or invented whatever you're doing, I think the New

461
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: York media is a good example of that. Chris Russo,

462
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: mad Dog, who I listened to on Series X I'm

463
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,919
Speaker 1: in California. I didn't even know who he was ten

464
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: years ago. I never knew him and Mike for Incessa.

465
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: I didn't know what their show was because when they

466
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 1: were going, streaming didn't even exist. I can imagine if

467
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 1: I lived where their radio station happened to be, I

468
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 1: would have been a huge fan. And anyone that's watched

469
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: the thirty of them know that they didn't even talk

470
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 1: to each other. But they were both so talented that

471
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 1: their egos that it kind of worked. I do think

472
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: that it's it's different because it's a radio show and

473
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 1: it's coaching. But when you're an offensive coach and you

474
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 1: are also the play caller, when you hire a defensive

475
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 1: coach who is really good but has a massive ego

476
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: and a resume of not really listening to many people,

477
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: it actually can work because he just kind of does

478
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: his thing and you just let him be. When you

479
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: look at Gaze's time in Miami, his defensive coordinators were terrible,

480
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 1: His defenses were awful. Check out Greg WILLI him resume.

481
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 1: It's elite, It is awesome, It is sweet. Mike Francesa

482
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: still gets made fun of for falling asleep. Guess who

483
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: it was impossible to fall asleep around Chris Russo Why

484
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 1: he's like a bundle of cocaine. He never stops. When

485
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 1: they were together, they were a powerhouse for a reason.

486
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: They complimented each other perfectly. Now again, I'm not saying

487
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 1: that coaching football is anything like doing a radio show,

488
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: but I've done radio shows other people like it's important

489
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: for the other person to compliment you, And even if

490
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: you have a huge ego or you think you're better

491
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: than the other person, if the other person can bring

492
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 1: something to the table that you don't, you need that person,

493
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: so you just kind of suck it up and deal

494
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: with them. I think a pretty good example right now.

495
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 1: And it's different because his personality is not the same

496
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: as Adam Gates. Is Doug Peterson like is uh? Is

497
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz really Doug Peterson's type guy? Probably not ideally.

498
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: I mean, it was pretty clear that he was bad

499
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: mouthed him last year, you know, through back channels in

500
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: the media. But Doug also knows he kind of needs them.

501
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: You know, he's not a defensive guy. He doesn't know

502
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: what to do. He needs him to call plays. So

503
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 1: it's been a good marriage. I really think that even

504
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 1: if these guys don't even like each other, you know,

505
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 1: that's not important here. Now. You gotta work together. Obviously,

506
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 1: in any business, you've gotta be a quote unquote I

507
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,919
Speaker 1: love this. You gotta be a pro. Yeah. That just

508
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: means you gotta be mature about certain things and suck

509
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 1: it up and deal with it and know when you do.

510
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: But you don't have to be best friends. You don't

511
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: have to sing Kumbaya and hold hands every day. I

512
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: think this is probably the best assistant coach higher of

513
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 1: the entire cycle, just because of how dependent Gaze is

514
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: on this figure in his organization. Greg Williams is not

515
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 1: gonna go anywhere. He's not gonna get a head coaching job,

516
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: at least according to us on the outside. According to him,

517
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: he's got them lined up. But I think this is

518
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: the perfect marriage. And even if these guys are kind

519
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: of crazy and don't tend to listen to many people,

520
00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: they don't really need to listen to each other. They

521
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: just need to coach guys up. And Adam is an

522
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: elite offensive coach, and now he has Sam Donald. The

523
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: Jets defense is not great, but Greg Williams has a

524
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: long history of turning defenses around. He's a big time

525
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: defensive coach. I love the marriage, loved the hire. Actually

526
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: kind of excited for the New York Jets. One thing

527
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: is pretty clear through Jerry Jones's words this week and

528
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett's reiterated that all his coaches are coming back,

529
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: that Dallas not gonna make coaching change. And I think

530
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: we knew that at the moment it became clear that

531
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: Dallas was gonna win the NFC East. But and I

532
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: did a topic maybe in the off season or maybe

533
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: really early on in the season, that at the end

534
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: of the day, Jerry in his late seventies would pay

535
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: an astronomical amount of money to make Jason Garrett work.

536
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: Do you think in a million years that Jerry Jones

537
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: at his age and the amount, how great his life is,

538
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: and just now that this team has signs of life

539
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: that he wants. He wants Jason Garrett to be a

540
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: star coach. So death really so badly, mainly because more

541
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 1: than likely if he gets rid of Jason Garrett, he

542
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: will downgrade, even though Jason is probably just a slightly

543
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 1: above average coach. But here is the problem. Let's say Jerry,

544
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: you know, I hope he lives along. I love Jerry Jones,

545
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 1: but you know he's in his late seven he doesn't

546
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 1: have that many more years left that if he just

547
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: keeps riding this out with Jason Garrett, the outcome is

548
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: already pretty determined. And I've been someone that has defended

549
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett. I almost think he gets a bad rap,

550
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,360
Speaker 1: Like people talk about him like he's Jim tom Seula,

551
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: like he's the village idiot. And I've never thought he

552
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: was that terrible. But here's the issue. The NFC has

553
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: never had, probably top to bottom, brighter minds and brighter

554
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: offensive minds. You just saw Jason Garrett go against a

555
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: top notch coach in Sean McVeigh who's thirty two years old,

556
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: and he kicked his ass. What happens once Jimmy Garoppolo

557
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: gets healthy and Kyle gets humming. We've seen what Matt

558
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: Naggy is doing in Chicago, Doug Peterson and the guy

559
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 1: in his own division. You know, like he's got a

560
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: coach against that guy, he's already that guy has already

561
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: won a super Bowl and as four playoff victories in

562
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: his short three year career as a head coach. Bruce

563
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: Arians is now back in the South Sean Payton, Like,

564
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: look at the offensive coaches in the NFC, Like it

565
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: is so it's going to be so difficult for Jason

566
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: Garrett to ever win the NFC. He's nowhere close to

567
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: And again I don't think he's that terrible, but the

568
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: high end in the NFC with McVeigh, Sean Payton, now

569
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: young Matt Naggy, uh Sean Payton, as I already said, Johan,

570
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: but Bruce Arians is now returned. Everyone views Kyle Shanahan

571
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: as a really good coach. He's four and twenty without Jimmy.

572
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: With Jimmy, he's six and two. So if Jimmy stays healthy,

573
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: they are going to be a competitive uh you know,

574
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: you know, competing for a wild card type team, Like

575
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: how is Jason gonna get over the hill? I understand

576
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: Jerry doesn't want to go down the road of going

577
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: on a coaching search and restarting his organization, but if

578
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: he really wants to win a championship before he's put

579
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: to rest and at the end of the day, I

580
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: know he says it, and I think he believes it,

581
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: but I think more in his life, you know, he

582
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: just wants to keep living because he's so rich, he's

583
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: so powerful, his team so much fun in such a

584
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: big deal that again, I don't think he's lying that

585
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: he wants to win a super Bowl? But is he

586
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,479
Speaker 1: George Steinbrenner, Because if he was, Jason Garrett would probably

587
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: go uh. And he just offered Lincoln Riley a blank check.

588
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: And there's no guarantee that Lincoln Riley would be better

589
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: than Jason Garrett. It could turn out Lincoln Riley might

590
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 1: be a flop. But one thing is clear that Jason

591
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: Garrett has a ceiling. Now, his floor is pretty solid,

592
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: like for the most part, you're gonna be competitive, but

593
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: his ceiling isn't good enough. It just will not beat McVeigh,

594
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: it will not beat Peyton. It it's never gonna be

595
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: as good as Doug Peterson, cause has super Bowl level

596
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: coach like Matt Naggy clearly has a higher ceiling like

597
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 1: this guy's this guy's capped of what he can do.

598
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: Look look, look at his team. They had an elite

599
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 1: pass rush, two dominant linebackers, cover corners everywhere. They had

600
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,719
Speaker 1: Zeke Elliott arguably the first or second best running back

601
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: in the league. Acquired to Mary Cooper, who's really good.

602
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: Gallup pretty solid. Dock's not bad. Even their offensive line

603
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: that everyone's like, you know what, the offensive line is

604
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: not what he used to be, Still pretty damn good.

605
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: You know how many teams in the NFL would have

606
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: taken that offensive line even with the injuries. And I'd

607
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: argue he underachieved. You know, he really did. Now part

608
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: of its doc. I mean, Dock's not exactly Tom Brady,

609
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: but hell, I don't think he's that much different like

610
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: Jared Goff and look at what they did. They just

611
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: get crap out of the Cowboys. So I think at

612
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: the end of the day, Jerry's all in on this.

613
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: He's not gonna change. And I think, you know, whenever,

614
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: as this team continues to come up a little short,

615
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: and it's only gonna get more difficult because I gotta

616
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: pay more guys. It's Jerry's on fault because he should

617
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: have got rid of Jason, you know, a while ago,

618
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: just because like his ceiling is not high enough that

619
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: they're capped before the season even starts, even even if

620
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: they have a super Bowl level roster. He's just not

621
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: a good enough coach to get it done. I'm not

622
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,479
Speaker 1: gonna spend too much time on this because it's kind

623
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: of stupid. But I before I got in the NFL,

624
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: I worked at Fresno State, And when you work for

625
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: a football team, you know, on the coaching staff, as

626
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: a scout, if you travel with the team or whatever,

627
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: there's always a lot of food. And I don't think

628
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: this week in the media when Trump, and this is

629
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: not a political take, when Trump served to McDonald's and

630
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: Chick fil A and pizza, and people are like oh

631
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: my god, how could they? I got news for you.

632
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 1: First off, just men in general, I'm in my early

633
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: I guess mid thirties now, and I am struggling to

634
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: try to eat clean. Most guys I know our dirty eaters,

635
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: especially when they're young football players. We used to feed

636
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: our football team when I was at Fresno State rally Burgers,

637
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: which is like a much much dirtier burger king. Uh.

638
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Speaker 1: Every Sunday night, you get multiple like double cheeseburgers. I'd

639
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Speaker 1: also personally slam a couple too. I actually went and

640
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: go pick them up after Sunday practice. And then when

641
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: we travel this was that this was at President State,

642
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: we would get a snack. So like as a team

643
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: travels in the NFL, is the same way you Let's

644
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: say you know in college, you plan on a Saturday.

645
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Speaker 1: So let's say you leave on a Friday morning. Usually

646
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: have breakfast catered for you wherever you are, if you

647
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Speaker 1: have a walk through whatever breakfast cater Uh. Then you

648
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Speaker 1: go to the plane, they have a meal for you.

649
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: You fly somewhere, let's say it a couple hour flight.

650
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Speaker 1: You land, you go to the hotel. Then with you

651
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Speaker 1: go to your hotel room check in. You know, now

652
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: it's three or four dinners at five, So you eat dinner,

653
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: and then you always get a snack after night meetings

654
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: and the team meeting, and then you go to position

655
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: group and there's usually a snack in our snack at

656
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: Frezo State was like grilled chicken sandwiches from Burger King

657
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: or McDonald's, Like that's what we would get. And and

658
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: guys didn't just eat them. People would grab two or three.

659
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: I mean they slammed them. When I got to Andy

660
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 1: Reid in Philadelphia, we had this thing called Fast Food Friday.

661
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 1: Every Friday there was fast food served. Now it was

662
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: a little different. It wasn't like McDonald's or Burger King,

663
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 1: but it was like ribs, it was even like sushi, burgers,

664
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 1: all sorts of stuff. Guys, including the staff, including myself,

665
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 1: look forward to every Friday Fast Food Friday. So this

666
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: notion that these players would have been at years old,

667
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: I get the media elites that make six and seven

668
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: figures that eat at Flemings and Ruth Chris and who

669
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Speaker 1: knows where the majority of nights, most people don't and

670
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: most young people don't, especially athletes. College athletes will eat anything,

671
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: you know, and don't get it twisted. You find a

672
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: lot of fast food rappers when you get to the

673
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: NFL players in the NFL, theo's making millions. People like

674
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: fast food. There's a reason there are a lot of

675
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: fast food restaurants. Everywhere people go, people eat it. So

676
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: this notion that like the players would have been offended,

677
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: I would imagine. I never saw an after picture, but

678
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: I saw some of the linemen taking pictures with multiple

679
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: Big Max. Uh, definitely. Most coaches are not exactly the

680
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: pillar of health, the Big Max, the Chick fil a, sandwiches,

681
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: the fries, you name it. We're getting slammed anyone's saying.

682
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,240
Speaker 1: And I know someone on Molly queer Um on ESPN

683
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: called it racist, which is you could argue that common

684
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 1: is offensive, it's absurd, it's moronic. But these all these

685
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: commentators and people in the media claiming like, how how

686
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: could you do that? Do you know how excited you've

687
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 1: got kids are? And just guys in general, especially young guys,

688
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: when you get free food, like your free food can

689
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: be pizza, it can be Ruth Chris, it can be Flemings,

690
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: it can be uh, you know, Big Max, it can

691
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Speaker 1: be in and outberg, No one cares. We eat it.

692
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: Guys eat food when they're young. You put it in

693
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: front of us, we will consume it. At football players,

694
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: they will eat anything, and then you serve them more,

695
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 1: they'll eat more of it. So this notion that they

696
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: were like look down upon it. Their Twitter pictures showed

697
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,280
Speaker 1: it all. They were loving it. Why because guys like food.

698
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: Football players like food even more so. Don't don't let

699
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: the Twitter uh you know, group think an echo chamber

700
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: make you think that those guys didn't love the meal.

701
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,959
Speaker 1: Because hell, if you put a big mac in front

702
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: of me right now, I'd slam it. Okay, let's get

703
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: to uh my guys on the Middlecoff mail back. You

704
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: can always slide up into my d M s on

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00:36:55,200 --> 00:37:02,800
Speaker 1: Instagram at John Middlecoff. That's my name, and uh holler

706
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: at me. You know you can hit me up on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: Slide up in my d M s ask questions. My

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Speaker 1: d M s are dudes asking football questions, so slide

709
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: up in them, John, you didn't answer my question last time.

710
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 1: My bad al Shan and falls are getting a lot

711
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: of slack from Eagles fans. I'm a die hard fan

712
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: and knew the game was over when Foals through the

713
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: pick in the first half. Damn our our fans and

714
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: Philly getting too soft and trying to prove they're not

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00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 1: as bad as people. Say, No to me, you won

716
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl last year. The team Phillies an elite

717
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: sports team town. They have, you know, there are pro

718
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 1: sports town and the Eagles are in their own stratosphere

719
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: in terms of interest, and the Phillies and now the

720
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: Sixers are definitely a big deal. When I lived in Philly,

721
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,720
Speaker 1: the the Phillies were good. Actually the Flyers were good too,

722
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: but the Phillies were really good. They just won a

723
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: World See Series. They were competing to get to another

724
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,919
Speaker 1: World Series. They played the Giants in the NLCS, which

725
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: is pretty sweet watching. The Giants kicked their ass, but

726
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: they were sweet Halliday, Ryan Howard. The six are sucked.

727
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: But the overall point of this is the Eagles are

728
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: by far the number one team in that area. Be

729
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: the equivalent of like the Yankees in New York or

730
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 1: the Lakers in l A. It's the Eagles in Philly.

731
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: So they want to I mean, you guys want a

732
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: Super Bowl with your backup quarterback. It literally is one

733
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: of the great all time sports stories. Like if we're

734
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: just telling all time great sports stories, right, miracle on ice, Uh,

735
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: Jim Valvano win in the n C Double A Championship. Uh,

736
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: what's his name? Dude Gonzales on the Diamondbacks getting the

737
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: hit off Mariano Rivera, and like two thousand one for

738
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,919
Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks. Yeah, I mean there's a small handful of

739
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: just all time just like storybook uh sports stories, not

740
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 1: like Shock and Kobe wouldn't I'm talking like, wow, you

741
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: could make a movie on that. Nick Foles is one

742
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: of those. It mean, it's probably a top five when

743
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: you factor in the importance of football. I mean in

744
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: this country in society. I mean you could argue it's

745
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: like top three. It's it's uh, it's you couldn't write

746
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,839
Speaker 1: it in a movie. So, you know, if fans don't

747
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: want to be mad about this loss, I you were

748
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 1: an eight and a half point underdog, Nick Foles was

749
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: starting again and you had a chance to win in

750
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: the last five minutes or at least just make it

751
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: a game. That's that's incredible. Um. At the end of

752
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: the day, the Eagles, you know, these last twelve months,

753
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: you know, somewhat defined the NFL. Nick Foles somewhat defines

754
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: the NFL. Doug Peterson established himself as a great coach.

755
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: Like I I think this is the one year where

756
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 1: you can just kind of go, you know what, that

757
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: was badass, that was sweet. We were the defending champs.

758
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: Everyone counted us out. Carson Wentz can't stay health. They

759
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: just save his life. Uh, and we still found a

760
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: way with Nick Foles to to go to dip back

761
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: into the magic. That's we're never gonna see that again.

762
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: Sometimes you see a backup quarterback, I mean win a

763
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: game in the regular season, When does the backup quarterback

764
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: ever win a playoff game? When did they ever win

765
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 1: a playoff game? Just think off the top of your head,

766
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: when a backup quarterback wins a playoff game. I'm not

767
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: saying that comes in with the lead when the guy

768
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: gets injured, but the backup quarterback has to start a

769
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: playoff game. Just thinking off the top of my head,

770
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: not doing any research on this one. It's sure as

771
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: hell feels like every time the backup quarterback starts a

772
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 1: playoff game in recent memory, Remember when Carson Palmer got

773
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: hurt and the Cardinals rolled out and got their ass

774
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: kicked against the Carolina Panthers that were seven and nine. Uh.

775
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 1: Connor Cook had to start when Derek Carr broke his

776
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: ankled no chance. So the Nick Foles magic. To me,

777
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: it's like it's real, it's unheard of, It's just it's

778
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: just an awesome story. I think I might have already

779
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: answered this question, but I'll fly through it again. Giants

780
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: obviously have a huge need at quarterback, although Dwayne Haskins

781
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 1: is a protypical quarterback and likely to have more longevity

782
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: in his professional career. How would the how much would

783
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: the Giants consider drafting Kyler Murray if they decided to

784
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: go quarterback at six? Yeah, I think I did answer

785
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: this question last week, but I think you're starting to

786
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 1: see more and more of it. And listen, I'm a

787
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray guy. But I think we've jumped the shark

788
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: a little bit about him going super super high at

789
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: five ft nine. Uh. The the s I d at

790
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 1: Oklahoma has already admitted, like in socks, he's a shade

791
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: over five ft nine. I think at the end of

792
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 1: the day, he probably goes fifteen to thirty two, not

793
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: in the top fifteen. If I I much rather take

794
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins over over Kyler Murray. If I had the choice,

795
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: you just bet on the bigger player, Like you said,

796
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 1: much more prototypical. They already have a great running back

797
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: now as a fan, uh if I was in high

798
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: school and still, I mean, I know a lot of

799
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: older people, so I'm not pigeonholing the young people play

800
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: video games. If I just still played Madden, that would

801
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: be sweet. You give me Kyler Murray, you give me

802
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: Sae Kwan Barkley, and you give me Odell Beckham. They

803
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 1: would be my go to Madden team. But it might

804
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 1: be one of those things that sounds a little better

805
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: in theory than it actually would be in reality. I'd

806
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 1: be shocked Gettleman still runs the team. Pat Shermer's history

807
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: with quarterbacks, if they would be a Kyler Murray destination.

808
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: And here's the other thing, like they already have such

809
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: strong star power with sa Kwan and O'Dell that they

810
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: just need to get a quarterback one that would probably

811
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: work in the NFL. To me, Kyler is a little

812
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: bit more swing for the fences, and I'm not against

813
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: swinging for the fences, but if you have the option.

814
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: I would just take the guy with the with the

815
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: higher floor because I already have a pretty high flooriss

816
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: and offense because I have Hall of Fame talent at

817
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: twenty two years old playing running back. And I, oh,

818
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 1: it feels like a lot of people on Twitter or

819
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: shipping on Odell. I still think O'Dell sweet. Now, he's

820
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: gotta stay healthy, but he he's an elite player. So

821
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: you got those two guys with a good quarterback, you

822
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: should be really good for the mail bag. Another Giant's question,

823
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: I can't, for the life of me understand why Gettleman

824
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 1: chose Kwan over the quarterbacks last year. Can you explain

825
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: what you think his reasoning for this was. I'm a

826
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: big Giants fan and I'm pissed that they chose Kwan

827
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: over Donald Well. I think his reasoning is twofold one.

828
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 1: I don't think it's all his decision. I think there's

829
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: an ownership level, and I think you have This happens

830
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 1: in in pro sports, probably more than us in the media. Definitely,

831
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 1: U as fans ever realized that the general manager has

832
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 1: gotta say ship because the owner wants to do something

833
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: and he's got to take the hits. For it, So

834
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: I think the owner. I should hope the owner because

835
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 1: if give Gettleman thought that Eli can still play, I

836
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: think he's an idiot. So, you know, I think they

837
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: thought that Eli could still play. I think they have

838
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: this like kinship to Eli for the Super Bowl the

839
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: once seven years ago, even though he hasn't been good

840
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: for a couple of years. And even if you do

841
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: believe he still can play, he can't move in your

842
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 1: offensive line sucks. So to keep them to roll it back,

843
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: I thought that was crazy. And I also think that

844
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: they just saw se Kwan Barkley as a generational player,

845
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: which he might be. You know, it's just an all

846
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: time great potential running back as a guy that's going

847
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 1: to change the league. And he showed flashes that definitely

848
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: as a rookie. But I almost feel they undervalue the quarterback,

849
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: you know, and I think they'd tell you historically in

850
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: the organization. You know, I grew up a Niner fan.

851
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: So if you grew up a Niner fan, and I'm

852
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 1: in my mid thirties, I watched Montana, not really Montana

853
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: more young, but your quarterbacks are really important. If you

854
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: grow up a Packer fan or work in the Packer organization.

855
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: It's a quarterback centric league. The Giants aren't. The Giants

856
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: won super Bowls with parcels on defense. They won super

857
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 1: Bowls with Coughlin with a defensive line. Now Eli got hot,

858
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: But think about their star players, Brandon Jacobs, Uh, Jeremy Shocky,

859
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: and I think Jeremy was gone even Tikey Barber had

860
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: just retired when they won the one in OH seven,

861
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: manning Ham, Steve Smith. Like they won with that front

862
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 1: with stray hand O c Tuck human eura, I guess

863
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 1: o c is uman your I met kiwa nuka kiwa

864
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: nuka human your You know what I'm saying. Like that

865
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: was that's defined them. Their front was an unreal It

866
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,959
Speaker 1: was a dominant force. And I think they view other

867
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: positions as equally as important. I don't, and most of

868
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: the NFL doesn't. It's a quarterback league. But I think

869
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: the Mara's and you know, John Marra's brother is you know,

870
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: runs part of the personnel department. And I think Gettleman

871
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: has worked for the Giants forever. They have an old

872
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: school of view of football. They view it more parcels

873
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: the in where the quarterback. I bet even this year, Like,

874
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 1: are are they really going to take a quarterback number six? Overall?

875
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: I know the fans want him to. I know on

876
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: this podcast, i'd say to do it. I doubt they

877
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: do it. They'd go, hell, we'll just take for Shawn

878
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: Gary and we'll take a guy in the third. We'll

879
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 1: take you know, Will Greer in the third. You know

880
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: that's and we'll make him a good player. You know,

881
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: we'll dominate on defense. Right that. That's just that's how

882
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: they think. And again I don't agree with it, and

883
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: I agree. If I were you, i'd be piste off

884
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: now the bet. You know, if you want to go

885
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,840
Speaker 1: glass half full on this, it's one thing to pass

886
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: up a quarterback and the guy you take sucks. At

887
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 1: least you did get an unreal player. So it sucks

888
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 1: on having a quarterback because you're probably gonna win that

889
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: many games, but at least you get to watch sa

890
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: Kwan Barkley. You know. I was talking to uh helped

891
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 1: a guy the works for the athletic to an article

892
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: for the Buffalo, their Buffalo site, and we were talking

893
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 1: about like the Buffalo team when they traded up from

894
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 1: nine to four in two thousand and fourteen, took Sammy Watkins.

895
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: Like it's one thing to take Sammy Watkins and it

896
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: doesn't work out, it's another thing to pass on Khalil

897
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: Mack especially that went to school in Buffalo. So it's like,

898
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: I mean, taking like a baseball bat to your face

899
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: if if you're if you're a Bills fan, but you know,

900
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: at least at the end of the day you get

901
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: se Juan Barkley. Okay, last question. You had a segment

902
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: about how meat head head coaches don't work, specifically John Harbaugh.

903
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: The next segment you talked about how hard it is

904
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: to win playoff games and how Andy Reid has ten victories.

905
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: Now he had ten victories in Philly. He has a

906
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 1: couple of cans. He has twelve. Pretty sure Harbor has more.

907
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: I think John has ten. Here's the thing, and meat

908
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,439
Speaker 1: head head coaches have always worked in the NFL since

909
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 1: about They stopped working about three or four years ago

910
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: as the rules changed and quarterbacks became twenty times more

911
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: important than they already were and they already were import

912
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 1: and you can't really play defense like toughness isn't quite

913
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: you know, you don't have to worry about getting decleted

914
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: over the middle of the field. You can't jam anyone

915
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: at the at the line of scrimmage. There's a reason

916
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: since John Harball won the Super Bowl he has one

917
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 1: playoff victory over the last like six years. It's because

918
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: his greatest drank like John Harbaugh. If this was John

919
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: Harbaugh would be an elite coach. But his what he

920
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: brings the table. He knows nothing about offense. He's just

921
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: a motivational guy. When the rules used to be much

922
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: more physical. Oh, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, that's when he

923
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: was winning all his playoff games. He can't, he can't.

924
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: He can struggles to make it to the playoffs. Now

925
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: this is the first time he made the playoffs this

926
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: year in like four years because the rules changed on him. Again,

927
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: I'm not saying John Harbaugh. John Harball is the highest

928
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: highest end of meat head coaches. And he's really not.

929
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: I mean he's a smart guy. When I when I

930
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: say that, I I mean there there's two two sides

931
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: to the meat head coach. One is just the meat

932
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 1: head all all like motivation, which is kind of hardball

933
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:03,880
Speaker 1: because he doesn't have a side of the ball, but

934
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: he's smart. The other is like Mike Zimmer who coaches

935
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: the side of the ball, and he's good at it

936
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: on defense, but his mentality is still living in like

937
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: the eighties or the nineties, like run the ball. It's like, hey, coach,

938
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 1: they can't jam our receivers. Our quarterback makes thirty million dollars,

939
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 1: how about throw the rock? How about our two receivers

940
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 1: are borderline all pros? And I think that those guys

941
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: have struggled with the changing of the rules, not that

942
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: that their mindset. I'm not some that the old school

943
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: guy is always wrong, but when rules change on you.

944
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: It's like in any business, if regulation happens, you better

945
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: adapt or you will lose. You'll go out of business.

946
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: Like unless John Hardback can just spend the entire offseason

947
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: studying offense and learning how to coach it, he's capped

948
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: on what he can do. Andy's strength just in this

949
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: NFL in two thousand and eighteen is the most important thing.

950
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: It's why he has the number one seed because he

951
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: can coach offense, and he can coach a quarterback. John can't.

952
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: They have Lamar Jackson who can't throw. I think it's

953
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 1: crazy that John would even want to coach him. But

954
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: he does, and defense is still important. It's why the

955
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 1: Ravens are gonna be competitive. But they got no chance

956
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: to win the playoffs. And I'm not a huge Flacco guy,

957
00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: and I think they made the right move. But at

958
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: least Flacco five six years ago when he was playing well,

959
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: gave you a chance in the playoffs. They got no chance. Now.

960
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: They could have the best defense in the league next year,

961
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: and they might. I mean they beside Chicago they were

962
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: this year. I think, uh scoring defense, they might have

963
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: been one. But it doesn't matter. You gotta be able

964
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: to score points. We just saw it this last round

965
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,720
Speaker 1: in the second round. You score points, you go home.

966
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking like you're not winning games like

967
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: fift You know, you gotta score mid to high twenties.

968
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: Patriots had thirty five points in the first half. You know,

969
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 1: you gotta beat Andy Reid. Hell, look at his division.

970
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to Roethlisberger is still around and he's

971
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 1: gonna have to beat Baker. You know, It's it's just

972
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 1: not easy. That that's I don't think John Harbus and

973
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: he's a he's a high level guy. I like John Harbor.

974
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: I love the hard Bus, but I just think his

975
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: greatest strength is like five or six years outdated. And

976
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: I could say the same thing about his brother. And

977
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 1: you see it when he plays Ohio State sometimes, that

978
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 1: old school offense. He kind of you know, you run

979
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: into a brick wall against certain teams that are more

980
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:32,479
Speaker 1: progressive and have equal talent or more talent. It's crazy

981
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 1: about Belichick. He wins all these games. He doesn't even

982
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 1: have this much talent, but he's out scheming you. Belichick

983
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 1: can tell you every player's role on every snap of

984
00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: the game, offense, defense, special teams, every single player or

985
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: what their responsibility is. Now he's an outlier. John canned

986
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,280
Speaker 1: now and he can't tell you that much about defense.

987
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter. If defense was the most important

988
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,799
Speaker 1: thing in football, I'd say, you know what, Andy's gonna

989
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: have some problems. It's not hell. He'd just say our

990
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: defense sucks. Were the number one seat. It's way more

991
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 1: important to understand offense. That's why the all these guys

992
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: got hired as offensive coaches. Now, I'm not saying all

993
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: of them are good. They're not. I think La Fleur

994
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: is gonna fail, you know, I think Cliff Kingsbury it's

995
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: gonna be difficult, but like what they do in their

996
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: ability to coach the quarterback. Again, I don't know if

997
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 1: the floor can coach, but I know Cliff can coach quarterback,

998
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: so at least I'll have a chance, you know. I

999
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: mean if if he's losing shootouts like he did in

1000
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: Texas Tech, I mean, it's could be worse. That was

1001
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: ultimately my point. Appreciate everyone listening. You can always get

1002
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 1: in the Middlecoff mail bag at Middlecoff at John Middlecoff

1003
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: slide up in those d m s. I'll answer your

1004
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: questions here and if I didn't get to your question,

1005
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: I'll answer it on Monday. And just keep it flowing. Uh,

1006
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 1: I'm just tweeting the back of emoji to the guy

1007
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: who just answered asked this question about John Harbaugh. But

1008
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 1: have a good weekend, enjoy these games. Thanks for listening,

1009
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, man, enjoy. We got three games left

1010
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: to Sunday, soak it all in because they're almost gone.

1011
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: It's gonna make me really sad. Thanks again for listening,

1012
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: and I'll see you Monday.