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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 2: Friday edition of Clay and Buck kicks off right now.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for being here with us, Clay and I in NYC.

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Speaker 1: Kind of a rainy day.

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Speaker 2: Here, but we're going to try to bring some sunshine

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Speaker 2: via the airwaves to anybody who's out there listening in

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Speaker 2: this vicinity. Thanks for being with us from all across

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Speaker 2: the country. It's Friday, so we'll be taking some calls

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Speaker 2: for sure, eight hundred two two to eight eight two.

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Speaker 2: To give you a sense, a little roadmap of where

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Speaker 2: we're going here. We have Professor Dershowitz. Alan Dershwitz be

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Speaker 2: joining us in the second hour of the program. Talk

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Speaker 2: about trump legal situation right now. The Special Council, this

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Speaker 2: is CNN's breaking news as of this morning, is giving

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Speaker 2: the electors, which she had interfers to was the fake electors,

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Speaker 2: limited immunity in exchange for testimony, so essentially trying to

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Speaker 2: build a stronger election Jan six case against Trump. We're

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Speaker 2: watching that closely. We will ask Professor Dershowitz about that

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Speaker 2: over on It's interesting you've got that on seeing that

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Speaker 2: over on Fox on the screens here whistleblowers from the

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Speaker 2: IRS alleging interference in the Hunter Biden case. We will

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Speaker 2: have Congressman Jason Smith with us also second hour of

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Speaker 2: the Program of Missouri. He's running the oversight hearing into

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Speaker 2: this and he's gonna tell us what we need to

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Speaker 2: know about, what these whistleblowers have said, what the evidence

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Speaker 2: looks like so far. So that's all coming up in

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Speaker 2: terms of guests. We've also so we've got updates on

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Speaker 2: the Hunter Biden situation, which you will bring to you

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Speaker 2: lab grown meat approved for sale in the US. We

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Speaker 2: are definitely going to discuss that, Clay. I don't want

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Speaker 2: to get into this one now. I want to hold

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Speaker 2: this one. Did you see that the American Medical Association

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Speaker 2: now says b m I is racist.

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Speaker 1: I did see that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So that is a discussion that we will have

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Speaker 2: and some other things that will get thrown into the mix,

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Speaker 2: for sure, but I want to start with this. You

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Speaker 2: know a lot of people have concerns about, oh, can

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Speaker 2: you trust the media, can you trust the government? And

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Speaker 2: now I can understand what the arguments would be around this,

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Speaker 2: but let's just lay this out. We know that the

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Speaker 2: Titan five are no longer with us. They are gone.

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Speaker 2: The submarine that they were in, the submersible exploded, crushed, imploded.

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Speaker 2: We now also have been told, and this is even

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Speaker 2: from Wall Street Journal, New York Times, that the Navy

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Speaker 2: pretty much new on Sunday that this happened, that they

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Speaker 2: picked up in explosion what seemed like an undersea explosion,

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Speaker 2: and that this technology that they use, which I don't

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Speaker 2: picking up, you know, an explosion that would involve Saya submarine, right,

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Speaker 2: so you could know what's going on in that undersea battle.

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Speaker 2: But I think a lot of people look around them

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Speaker 2: they say, so, we spent days with thoughts and prayers

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Speaker 2: been told that the Navy picked up an explosion from

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Speaker 1: Yes, I think so. And let's take it outside of.

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Speaker 3: What you and I should be told, Buck, unless the

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Speaker 3: reporting has changed. They didn't tell the family about potentially

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Speaker 3: picking up an explosion until Thursday. Let's pretend that you

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Speaker 3: we think that there has been an explosion. We are

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Speaker 3: Rather than be told for five days, there's ninety six

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Speaker 3: And I would say this buck in fact, let's play

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Speaker 4: The senior Navy official tells us that the Navy picked

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Speaker 1: Okay, let me just start here.

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Speaker 3: You heard all that Buck if this were family or

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Speaker 3: last five days not being given the full information. Wouldn't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think if you're the family, you want to

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Speaker 2: even if it's not definitive. But you know James Cameron,

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Speaker 2: the director, he's actually directed some great, some great movies,

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Speaker 2: the second deepest dive ever I believe in a submersible

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Speaker 1: So he knows this stuff really well.

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Speaker 2: And actually some of that technology came out of or

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Speaker 2: it means the sub exploded. Yeah, And that was why

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Speaker 2: But what that would mean is that you didn't have

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Speaker 2: So James Cameron is sitting here saying, not only did

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Speaker 1: Was almost zero.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they treated it buck For people out there

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Speaker 2: I talked about this the movie, Yeah, it was actually

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Speaker 3: And there's also been a few times where miners have

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Speaker 3: The media treated this, based on the ninety six hours,

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Speaker 3: like the Navy allowed the narrative that was fundamentally untrue

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Speaker 1: That it was fundamentally untrue.

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Speaker 3: And again, the families, I think have the biggest gripe

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Speaker 1: But it felt like all week long, this is a

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Speaker 3: Feels like the media got played here by the Navy

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Speaker 1: It's another thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we heard an explosion, but we're going to go

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Speaker 2: send people down there anyway as fast as we can

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Speaker 2: and but why couldn't the submariners answer the question about

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Speaker 2: because it wasn't an issue of comm's or jailocation the

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Speaker 3: I know there's a lot of discussion about this. Do

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Speaker 5: close the same kind of strict, strict rules. That's why

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Speaker 5: I never talked with my son, or my brother or

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Speaker 5: anyone else, even distant family about their business interests.

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Speaker 2: Period.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Buck, it may you may be right. They may

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Speaker 3: try to wall off Joe and say he didn't commit

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Speaker 3: a criminal offense. But all of these comments about I

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Speaker 3: never talked with my son about the business interest are

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Speaker 3: going to blow up in his face if this twenty

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Speaker 3: seventeen WhatsApp message can be can be fully in some

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Speaker 3: way verified. Now, now, I wonder, Buck, Remember Barack Obama

448
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Speaker 3: never endorsed Joe Biden. In fact, he said in twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 3: I'm endorsing Hillary, and.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to do this, Joe what he wanted

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Speaker 2: to run the next time, Remember he told him not

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Speaker 2: to run.

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Speaker 3: And it did not endorse Joe Biden until Biden was

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Speaker 3: the nominee.

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Speaker 1: Don't you think that.

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Speaker 3: Obama would have been aware of how shady Hunter was

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Speaker 3: behaving all throughout the end of his tenure as president

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Speaker 3: talking about Obama? And certainly he would have been aware

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Speaker 3: when Joe Biden, who never had any money, Remember Joe,

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Speaker 3: how many houses does Joe Biden have now? Buck, He's

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Speaker 3: got the beach house. Not insubstantial, He's got a multimillion

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Speaker 3: dollar house. I think think in Wilmington, how many of

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Speaker 3: you out there who have been government employees?

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Speaker 2: Is it Rohobath by the way, robot Beach yancy? I

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Speaker 2: think if he's on the beach, we're talking that's four

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Speaker 2: five six mill territory. That's kind of like table stakes

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Speaker 2: in Rehoboth Beach.

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Speaker 3: So my point on this is how many people out

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Speaker 3: there listening to us who worked their entire life in government? Right,

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Speaker 3: Let's say you worked as a teacher. Let's say you

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Speaker 3: worked in state government. Both of my parents' buck were

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Speaker 3: State of Tennessee government employees. Never made fifty k a year.

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Speaker 3: We never had a beach house. How many people out

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Speaker 3: there who were government employees have beach houses?

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Speaker 2: Not a ton of them. I mean, Fauci probably does

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Speaker 2: because he was getting paid like nine hundred k a year.

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Speaker 3: But by and large, my point on this is Obama

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Speaker 3: and lots of other people in Democrat circles had to

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Speaker 3: become aware of Joe Biden turning on that money spigot

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Speaker 3: and recognizing that because it was connected to Hunter.

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Speaker 1: And remember, I think this is always work.

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Speaker 3: People say, oh, well he was a drug add to me,

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Speaker 3: that actually becomes super clear that Joe Biden had to

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Speaker 3: be involved, right, because if Hunter Biden was just, let's

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Speaker 3: be honest, a lot of you out there, you hope

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Speaker 3: that you're gonna have a son or daughter who's way

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Speaker 3: sharper and way more successful than you are. My twelve

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Speaker 3: year olds in the studio right now, I would love

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Speaker 3: it if you told me in thirty years he's gonna

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Speaker 3: dwarf everything that I've ever done in my life. That's

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Speaker 3: the goal of being a parent. So if Hunter Biden

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Speaker 3: was just super sharp, super successful, and you said, Okay,

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Speaker 3: this kid just happened to be really good, then maybe

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Speaker 3: you could say, Okay, some of this would be justified

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Speaker 3: to pay him, he's a crackhead. The only reason anybody

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Speaker 3: would have ever paid Hunter the drug thing actually works

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Speaker 3: against him.

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Speaker 2: And goes to the recklessness of how sloppy this was too,

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Speaker 2: because the only way you're not getting caught if you're

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Speaker 2: Hunter is if you think the system is going to

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Speaker 2: protect you because of daddy. And the fundamental question continues

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Speaker 2: to be why would anyone pay Hunter Biden a million

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Speaker 2: dollars for anything.

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Speaker 1: Correct, much less not right?

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Speaker 2: That was not an effort to buy influence with his dad.

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Speaker 2: And you know, you start to you start to have

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Speaker 2: to get into some some very interesting questions here. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I think this is the kind of thing. You know,

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Speaker 2: courts have had to weigh on this in the past.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned the Bob McDonald. Oh you know who was

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Speaker 2: prosecuting Bob McDonald, Yeah, Jack Smith, Jack Smith. This is

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Speaker 2: that interesting. Wow, it's such a coincidence. The guy goes

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Speaker 2: after the Republican for having a wife even as part

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Speaker 2: of this, who was accepting gifts no quid pro quo.

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Speaker 2: They threatened to send the wife of Bob McDonald when

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Speaker 2: he was governor of Virginia a prison for I think

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Speaker 2: two or three years federal prison in addition to the

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Speaker 2: eleven years they wanted to send him to prison. Clay

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Speaker 2: there was never even an allegation that he did anything.

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Speaker 2: He just accepted gifts, yep, trips, watch things like that.

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Speaker 1: That's all yep.

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Speaker 2: And they said, well that was enough because it creates

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Speaker 2: a perception. Oh okay, that's the way that is. But

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Speaker 2: the son of the sitting president now then the former

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Speaker 2: vice president or vice president, depending on which specific cash

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Speaker 2: transfusion we're talking about, there's not a buy off there.

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Speaker 2: There's not a payoff there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's important because the entire goal of having

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Speaker 3: limits on how much people can donate to campaigns is

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Speaker 3: to try to eliminate not only impropriety, right, impropriety. I

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Speaker 3: think most of you out there would say, well, getting bribed,

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Speaker 3: which appears may well have happened with Hunter Biden, that's

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Speaker 3: clearly wrong, right, That is improper.

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Speaker 1: That is impropriety.

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Speaker 3: But our limits on donations are directly connected to not

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Speaker 3: only impropriety, but merely the appearance of impropriety, because if

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Speaker 3: you just think, oh, that guy might be dirty, it

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Speaker 3: creates distrust in our entire government. This is both I

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Speaker 3: believe improper and illegal, but it certainly at a minimum

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Speaker 3: would create the appearance of impropriety. And so Buck New

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Speaker 3: York Times not covering this, we need to have a

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Speaker 3: discussion about that, because what does Jason Smith need to do,

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Speaker 3: the chairman of the House Committee on Ways and Means.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk with him here in about twenty minutes, but

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Speaker 3: larger context, this is such a seismic story. This is Buck,

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Speaker 3: I think, the first time where you can look at

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Speaker 3: some of the evidence that's being marshaled, if it can

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Speaker 3: be authenticated, where in some way Joe Biden's ability to

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Speaker 3: run in twenty twenty four as a member of the

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Speaker 3: Democrat Party in good standing could and stress could be undersea.

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Speaker 2: I think that they've stretched the political discourse overton window

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Speaker 2: by charging Trump so many times. We can't even keep

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Speaker 2: track of all the different prosecutions, and so they'll just

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Speaker 2: fall back on well, at least Joe Biden's not a criminal,

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Speaker 2: and you know, he just loves his son. And I

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Speaker 2: could hear all the ways they're going to try to

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Speaker 2: circle the wagons around this despite the situation unfolding before us.

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Speaker 2: Right now, we'll continue to get into this one. Oh,

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Speaker 2: we've got a bunch of calls and we've got some lawyers.

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Speaker 3: CNN is actually covering stunningly the IRS allegations that came

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Speaker 3: out of the House Committee on Ways and Means investigation

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Speaker 3: of Chairman Jason Smith. Jason Smith is going to be

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Speaker 3: with us to start the next hour. We will discuss this.

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Speaker 3: The New York Times Buck is not covering it at all.

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Speaker 3: But I wanted to for you to be able to

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Speaker 3: hear studying CNN Dana Bash actually reading the Hunter Biden

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Speaker 3: WhatsApp message to the CNN audience.

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Speaker 1: Listen.

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Speaker 6: So what we've been talking about is a DOJ problem,

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Speaker 6: not a Hunter Biden problem, per se, something that happened

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Speaker 6: within the investigation. In addition to that, the whistleblowers produced

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Speaker 6: what they say is a Hunter Biden what's apped a

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Speaker 6: message saying I'm sitting here with my father, Joe Biden,

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Speaker 6: and we would like to understand why the commitment made

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Speaker 6: has not been fulfilled. I will make certain between the

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Speaker 6: man sitting next to me and every person he knows,

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Speaker 6: and my ability to forever hold a grudge, that you

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Speaker 6: will regret not following my direction. I'm sitting here waiting

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Speaker 6: for the call with my father that looks very damning.

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Speaker 6: I should also note the date there, July twentieth, twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 6: and what Hunter Biden has said over and over again

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Speaker 6: is that at that time he had a very serious

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Speaker 6: crack addiction.

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Speaker 3: And then Buck while we were watching. To be fair,

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Speaker 3: she said this also. She said, this is the exact

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Speaker 3: opposite of what Joe Biden said, which is that he

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Speaker 3: has never been involved with his son or his brother

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Speaker 3: when it comes to their business dealing. So again, I

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Speaker 3: don't know what the MSNBC has said. If you guys

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Speaker 3: have clips of MSNBC discussing it, I would be fascinated

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Speaker 3: by it. I went through Buck because I would like

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Speaker 3: to see. As we have said to our audience for

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Speaker 3: a long time, the power of the media is deciding

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Speaker 3: what to cover. To CNN's credit, they are covering this

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Speaker 3: right now. New York Times I scrolled through on their app,

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Speaker 3: not a single story about it. The Washington Post has

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Speaker 3: it buried of probably the twenty fifth big story on

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Speaker 3: their website, but at least they have something about it.

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Speaker 3: What does it say to you that that audio they're

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Speaker 3: covering the WhatsApp message? I think both you and I

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Speaker 3: are surprised, because that's the first that just happened in

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Speaker 3: the last twenty minutes. CNN actually acknowledging what are allegations

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Speaker 3: that are so significant, to be fair, that Joe Biden

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Speaker 3: would deserve to be impeached and removed from office. I

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Speaker 3: think it's fair to say that you would agree buck

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Speaker 3: if it were true, and covering it in a way

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Speaker 3: that demonstrates that they do think the allegations are serious.

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Speaker 2: Well, if they could, if they could just claim that

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Speaker 2: all of this was fake, there's all the hallmarks of

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Speaker 2: Russian disinformation, they would. I think they know that we

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Speaker 2: are past that now, So that means that we get

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Speaker 2: into the realm of what is their messaging going to be.

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Speaker 2: How do they try to convince people that this isn't

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Speaker 2: as dirty as it actually is? And I think if

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Speaker 2: you're sitting across the table on the Democrat side, If

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Speaker 2: you're the Democrat pr machete on this, you're just going

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Speaker 2: to say this was happening when Joe. Now we have

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Speaker 2: to look at the timeline of all this. But they're

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Speaker 2: going to say he wasn't a public official. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: they're going to say that he didn't know, even if

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Speaker 2: his son said he knew and it wasn't criminal. I

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Speaker 2: think that's the only line of defense they have. The

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Speaker 2: problem with that is that really the only check on

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Speaker 2: this kind of thing. We're talking about a sitting president

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Speaker 2: right now. The only check on this is political, and

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Speaker 2: even that defense comes at the political cost of Okay,

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Speaker 2: the bidens are gross.

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Speaker 1: Like now, the whole Biden thing is a sleazy influence peddling.

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Speaker 2: Scam, just like all those bad Republicans on talk radio

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Speaker 2: and Fox News they've been saying for you know, years now.

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Speaker 2: But they'll just put their heads down and push forward

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Speaker 2: and say, well, the other guy is facing federal indictment,

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Speaker 2: and you know, it's just going to turn into a

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Speaker 2: massive bout of what about ism. You know, they're gonna say, well,

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Speaker 2: maybe our guy's not great, but your guy's worse. Because

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Speaker 2: it's indefensible Clay. Ultimately, what are they gonna say. I mean,

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Speaker 2: no one believes that anyone was paying Hunter Biden. Brisno's

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Speaker 2: paying him at one point eighty grand a month. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's a lot of money to not do anything.

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Speaker 3: And sometimes the money involved in politics buck. Remember when

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Speaker 3: they came after Ronda Santis and they were like, oh,

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Speaker 3: Ronda Santis got I'm just spitballing here. I don't remember

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Speaker 3: the exact figure, but it's like one hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 3: from publics and now see I think this was sixty minutes,

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Speaker 3: and and that was why he chose to allow publics

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Speaker 3: to give the COVID shot. They were like, this is

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Speaker 3: a buy off. And I think a lot of people

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Speaker 3: out there said, oh, one hundred thousand dollars to a

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Speaker 3: politician is really in the grand scheme of things, not

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Speaker 3: that much money, and it wasn't to him directly, and

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Speaker 3: a lot of people said, this is just a laughable story.

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Speaker 3: I think when you hear as you just said that

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Speaker 3: an individual is getting eighty thousand dollars a month from

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Speaker 3: Barisma when you're talking about I believe they said eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Million total to this venture. And to be clear, so

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Speaker 2: everyone understands that money was gathered under the premise at

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Speaker 2: least in the Chinese CFC and the chairman Z and

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Speaker 2: all that not yet determined business ventures.

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Speaker 1: Think about that.

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Speaker 2: Imagine if I sat down and I wasn't selling influence

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Speaker 2: to pops, and I said, hey, guys, give me some

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Speaker 2: you know, give me let's call it ten million, give

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Speaker 2: me ten million bucks, we're going to do business together

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Speaker 2: in the future, and just wire it to my account.

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Speaker 3: Nobody would that the money is so substantial buck that

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Speaker 3: I think it's almost impossible to explain. Like if Hunter

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Speaker 3: Biden was a great athlete and he was making eighteen

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Speaker 3: million dollars a year, or he was one of the

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Speaker 3: greatest hedge fund investors of his of his generation, I

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Speaker 3: think people would say, Okay, I can understand that when

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Speaker 3: you're a crack addict and people are giving you that

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Speaker 3: kind of money, that is impossible to explain.

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Speaker 2: We got Congressman Jason Smith up next. We're going to

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Speaker 2: take him on this Hunter Biden whistle blower issue. But

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Speaker 2: we have some really good calls on the legal side

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Speaker 2: of this. You guys can either hold him, be patient,

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Speaker 2: or call back in. We will get to some calls

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Speaker 2: in the second hour. So are we blew through that

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Speaker 2: now Clint I got fired up. Congressman Jason Smith up next.