Speaker 1: We should have shame as like a monthly holiday. I
Speaker 1: celebrate shame every day in my personal life. I don't
Speaker 1: know about you. For me, shame is three, six or
Speaker 1: five days a year. Honey, Please never say honey like
Speaker 1: that again. Honey. No. Actually, though, there should be Pride
Speaker 1: month in June and then shame for the month of July,
Speaker 1: because I feel like, honestly, with all the ship that
Speaker 1: I do, I do need like some shame to process,
Speaker 1: like you know what exactly happened. Shame is a very
Speaker 1: useful emotion. Oh you found Yeah, well, shame is one
Speaker 1: of those well okay, I guess. Like, on the one hand,
Speaker 1: shame is kind of like a landfill emotion. On the
Speaker 1: other hand, I think shame, like embarrassment, in a way,
Speaker 1: is like social caution take or like a social bumper.
Speaker 1: It's like it's the same way that like pain lets
Speaker 1: you know to not stop doing something. Like pain is
Speaker 1: like your body being like, don't do that, that's bad
Speaker 1: for you. I think shame is kind of like that,
Speaker 1: but about your behavior so you don't do it again.
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's as like cut and dry,
Speaker 1: because it's not always yes, because shame can be very
Speaker 1: extremely valid, and there are things that you should to
Speaker 1: be ashamed of, But then there's also shame that is
Speaker 1: totally grafted onto us by society, by other people. What
Speaker 1: have you right? For example, tonight, when I go to
Speaker 1: a party at the Boom Hoom Room and inevitably get
Speaker 1: monkey pocks, I will experience cham I what I don't want.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to ask. This is not that podcast.
Speaker 1: This is not that kind of podcast. But what we
Speaker 1: will discuss is the Boom Boom Room. Let me tell you,
Speaker 1: do you like or do you dislike the Boom Bom Room.
Speaker 1: I've had fun there me too. I feel like it's
Speaker 1: it is a completely overrated I've had fun there, and
Speaker 1: I've also found it extremely lame. Yes, I think it's
Speaker 1: an extremely overrated New York institution that is also iconic,
Speaker 1: and you can't help but feel a type of way
Speaker 1: when you're at it. The last time I was at
Speaker 1: the Boom Bom Room was with you Um for the
Speaker 1: after party for the out Pride dinner, at which I
Speaker 1: had a hundred and two degree fever. Oh wait, but
Speaker 1: do you stay for little Kim? I didn't stay for
Speaker 1: Little Kim, but I went up briefly to the Boom
Speaker 1: Boom Room. Wait was that the Yeah, that was the
Speaker 1: last time I was there. I was there, I was
Speaker 1: there some other time before that. I will say that
Speaker 1: around there that I can't remember. That party is very
Speaker 1: easily the best party I have ever thrown. And I
Speaker 1: can take like a lot of credit for how well
Speaker 1: that party went, and to the queens that I booked
Speaker 1: to do back up for a little Kim and like,
Speaker 1: I feel like I hauled ass, as did the out
Speaker 1: Events team. Did you ever see content from the Madonna
Speaker 1: party at the Boomoom Room, the one that was like
Speaker 1: the Boom Boom Room is back. Unfortunately, I I have
Speaker 1: that was one of what truly some of the worst
Speaker 1: things I've ever seen in my life. And everyone knows
Speaker 1: how much I love Madonna, but that was she should
Speaker 1: have stayed home that night. Getting into that party was
Speaker 1: actually the most difficult party I've ever gotten into. And
Speaker 1: I have gotten into a lot of crazy parties, but
Speaker 1: like that was like a labyrinth of gay nonsense. And
Speaker 1: you know, the Boom Boom Room for those that are
Speaker 1: the virgins at home who don't know, it's like a
Speaker 1: truly like multiple elevators and like a labyrinth of like
Speaker 1: halls and mirrors and staircases that kind of lead to
Speaker 1: the same places, but it's still really difficult to navigate
Speaker 1: sometimes if you're like you know, drunk or cooked out.
Speaker 1: And I basically got into the party by like sneaking
Speaker 1: in through one of like the back elevators, by following
Speaker 1: a group of people that I thought was V I
Speaker 1: P or whatever. But like every corner of this party
Speaker 1: was like crammed with like B and C list like
Speaker 1: gay celebrities or whatever. Like I was like elbow to
Speaker 1: elbow with like Andy Cohen and Anderson Cooper who were
Speaker 1: like yanking each other by the arm to get through
Speaker 1: this like sardines crowd of people. And like Adam Lambert
Speaker 1: had like his like shoulder pads with like studs on them,
Speaker 1: like muscling through this like crowd of Madonna fagets. And
Speaker 1: let me tell you you probably know this already. Madonna
Speaker 1: fans are the worst class of people. That's you know,
Speaker 1: we're speaking of people who stand pop stars. I think
Speaker 1: it's very hard to call any of them the worst. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true, that's that's sure. It's like Madonna stands are
Speaker 1: like I would say generally like in the context you're
Speaker 1: talking about like a sort of older white man, white
Speaker 1: gay man. Oh yeah, I get what you're saying, but
Speaker 1: I think there are you know, worse stands out there,
Speaker 1: and yeah, true, true, true, there are you know. It
Speaker 1: was it was too flippant to say the worst. There
Speaker 1: are so many stand bases um to take that title.
Speaker 1: But um, Madonna, you know, obviously she did like I
Speaker 1: think four songs which were actually like she was great,
Speaker 1: but like after her performance, she was like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna bring up my friend Zachary Quinto and we're gonna
Speaker 1: raise some money for LGBTQ homeless youth. It's like two
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning and this this venue is like,
Speaker 1: I mean, the booming Room is like so so illegally
Speaker 1: packed with like Madonna bags that are like coked out
Speaker 1: of their minds and have been waiting for hours for
Speaker 1: Madonna and don't want to be there for the fundraising portion.
Speaker 1: It was insane. The thing about Madonna is that Madonna
Speaker 1: does still think it is at the at the latest
Speaker 1: two thousand three, maybe a dozen six, So that is
Speaker 1: that is truly the setting of any um, you know,
Speaker 1: interaction with her I have also had my own Pride
Speaker 1: experiences with Madonna positive So is this turning into a
Speaker 1: Madonna episode? I mean, it's Pride, after all, it is Pride.
Speaker 1: So the fiftieth anniversary of Stonewall, you know, Pride fifty,
Speaker 1: I interviewed Madonna for out and that was crazy to
Speaker 1: talk to Madonna for ten minutes and then saw her.
Speaker 1: It was the first time I'd ever seen her live.
Speaker 1: Saw her concert after when she performed at the Pier
Speaker 1: Um truly incredible. She did four songs and it was amazing. UM.
Speaker 1: And then I saw her again that year when she
Speaker 1: was touring. Um, madam X. I love Madonna. I don't
Speaker 1: love Pride as much, you know, I guess because we
Speaker 1: are people whose works Center's queerness three sixty five days
Speaker 1: a year, twelve months, fifty two weeks, and by the
Speaker 1: time that this month rolls around every year, it's exhausting.
Speaker 1: We also, both you know, have worked places where we
Speaker 1: had to lean into the very you know, like corporate ties,
Speaker 1: Hello fellow gays. Kind of pride. We have cynical outlook
Speaker 1: on the state of pride and LGBTQ and LGBTQ media
Speaker 1: in general. I think, I mean I haven't. I haven't
Speaker 1: not worked during Pride since I was I don't know,
Speaker 1: like twenty four saying maybe, you know, like my whole
Speaker 1: adult life, Pride has been a thing where I was
Speaker 1: either working parties, working as a journalist, working as like
Speaker 1: a corporate queer. And then this year even we're still
Speaker 1: kind of working during Pride because we're making this podcast
Speaker 1: and we're doing our show in New York. So I
Speaker 1: mean it's great because, like, you know, the girls get
Speaker 1: their coins during Pride and that's fab. But also it's
Speaker 1: just not something that I care about or have any
Speaker 1: real stakes in. It's just like we are, you know,
Speaker 1: cynical queers who know that this is a good time
Speaker 1: to get like attention and money because it's unfortunately the
Speaker 1: only time of the year that you know, culture at
Speaker 1: large is willing to give us those things. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I feel like that the way you feel is kind
Speaker 1: of how a lot of people feel, right Like, I
Speaker 1: think that there's just like a cultural exhaustion around the
Speaker 1: Pride industrial complex, and like, you know, the June one memes,
Speaker 1: like we see it in that right Like, but I
Speaker 1: I don't know, it kind of bums me out sometimes
Speaker 1: because capitalism really has ruined it for every on like
Speaker 1: capitalism and police and all the other things that make
Speaker 1: pride something very icky, and it doesn't feel like it
Speaker 1: belongs to us anymore. But like, really like pride in
Speaker 1: its best form or the best version of pride is
Speaker 1: like when you do it on your own, and it
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with like the parties you go
Speaker 1: to or the programming that you figure out, or like,
Speaker 1: you know, the coin that you make. It's about finding
Speaker 1: excuses to take off work. That's literally, it's just like
Speaker 1: figuring out how to avoid work and doing something dumb
Speaker 1: and gay and slutty instead. I do feel kind of
Speaker 1: haunted by pride, and there was actually a summer where
Speaker 1: I was hunted by Pride. One summer that I spent
Speaker 1: in Europe. I was traveling a bunch and every city
Speaker 1: I went to, it would be Pride in that city
Speaker 1: that weekend. And I had left New York at the
Speaker 1: end of June, so I left Pride and then went
Speaker 1: to Europe, and like every new city I went to,
Speaker 1: they were like, oh, this weekend is our big Pride Pride,
Speaker 1: And I was like, no, I'm being punch across across
Speaker 1: the continent by Pride international haunting this and people would
Speaker 1: be like, do you want to go do a Pride
Speaker 1: thing this weekend? It's like, please, no, don't take me
Speaker 1: to a club and give me some speed. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I I mean I love International Prides. I've been to
Speaker 1: a lot of different kinds of prides. I unfortunately the
Speaker 1: opposite of you, I slash. I'm like the opposite of everyone.
Speaker 1: Like I really love Pride and I are disgusting. I
Speaker 1: love this month and it enlivens me and makes me happy.
Speaker 1: I do, yes, love this month. Yes, because babe, like
Speaker 1: you're so pure, friend, But this is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't love the month because I'm gonna go to
Speaker 1: the fucking parade, you know what I mean. Like I
Speaker 1: don't love this month because like I'm gonna go to
Speaker 1: thinking Harry's shaving companies like Cocktail Party or whatever, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like we're like we're like cock sucking,
Speaker 1: you know, Like I don't care about the Spahn con.
Speaker 1: Like I'm telling you that when I'll give you a
Speaker 1: cocktail when the clock strikes June one, I will not
Speaker 1: do anything that I don't want to do, period, Like
Speaker 1: I will not do it, and that I think is
Speaker 1: the mentality that everyone should have around this month because
Speaker 1: you know, it depends on what your job looks like,
Speaker 1: but like you really can maneuver your way into like
Speaker 1: really not doing things that you don't want to do,
Speaker 1: you know. And I want to validate that because we
Speaker 1: have had to have some annoying conversations with people this month,
Speaker 1: and I love that you're taking no ship from straight people.
Speaker 1: Attitude is on a thousand this month, and it is
Speaker 1: great because I like, I have, you know, sort of
Speaker 1: like a low level um like apathy about all things
Speaker 1: three six or five days a year. Um, but you,
Speaker 1: I think, especially during this month, just absolutely we have
Speaker 1: no time for this had her own nonsense. No. I
Speaker 1: love that I have gotten to benefit from the roses
Speaker 1: referring to a very specific incident that we can't talk
Speaker 1: about on the camera, but um, I did choose someone
Speaker 1: out recently. Well, we're only on camera for each other,
Speaker 1: We're not on camera for the listeners. Look, look, mama,
Speaker 1: I come camera. We are camera ready. You look stunning.
Speaker 1: You have beautiful blonde hair, luscious locks. The virgins should
Speaker 1: know you like You're You're back to blonde baby, and
Speaker 1: you need to stay. The color did not change at all.
Speaker 1: I just got a trim and a blowout. I know,
Speaker 1: but it looks just that my hair looks disgusting all
Speaker 1: the time. Wait, do you want to know, but your
Speaker 1: hair looks more blonde? Do you want to know why
Speaker 1: I got my hair trimmed? Why? Because yes, cover they
Speaker 1: come yes, no, um, but still sex related. Yesterday I
Speaker 1: was hooking up with someone and they very sexily were like,
Speaker 1: I love your hair, like you know, the blonde is
Speaker 1: so hot um, and then went to tenderly um you know, uh,
Speaker 1: run their fingers through my hair and couldn't because it
Speaker 1: was so tangled and dry and nodded at the ends,
Speaker 1: and I thought, well, I'm getting a haircut tomorrow. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's that's pretty. Did he notice or were you able to? Like?
Speaker 1: Kind of he kind of like? Um, he was nice.
Speaker 1: He didn't recoil, He did not recoil. He you know,
Speaker 1: um gracefully pulled out my hair um, and did not
Speaker 1: try that move again. Um. But it was a nice
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes sometimes the universe calls you in and says, honey,
Speaker 1: it's time, it's time. So do you have like a
Speaker 1: favorite pride memory? Yeah, I was actually just talking to
Speaker 1: our friends Coco and Mars about this. Um. I my
Speaker 1: first year in New York. I you know, didn't really
Speaker 1: think I was going to live in New York. I
Speaker 1: thought I was going to just be here for a
Speaker 1: graduate certificate program and then like you know, moved to
Speaker 1: the mountains or some ship. And I experienced basically my
Speaker 1: first like big city pride and had never seen so
Speaker 1: many queer people in my life. And that was the
Speaker 1: year that Domo was struck down, and so Pride was
Speaker 1: particularly lovely. And that was also the year that Gaga
Speaker 1: gave a surprise speech at the New York like opening
Speaker 1: rally or whatever. And I remember lining up like waiting
Speaker 1: and since like noon to go see Gaga speak because
Speaker 1: I had literally never seen a celebrity before in my
Speaker 1: entire life. And her speech was beautiful. By the way,
Speaker 1: it made me cry. It's like on YouTube somewhere, but
Speaker 1: she talked about I hate that I'm recounting this, but
Speaker 1: it really was beautiful. She talked about how she said
Speaker 1: love winds No, I mean that too, but she said, um.
Speaker 1: She was like, you know a lot of people like
Speaker 1: to say to me, Gaga, I knew you when like
Speaker 1: I knew you when you were, you know, playing at
Speaker 1: piano dive bars, and like I knew you when you
Speaker 1: had like you know, no social media followers or whatever
Speaker 1: she was saying. And she was like, and now I
Speaker 1: get to say to you, I knew you when you
Speaker 1: didn't have rights in this country, and like I knew
Speaker 1: you when you couldn't get married, and like, like it
Speaker 1: was it was really beautiful. She She's delivered in a
Speaker 1: much better way that I'm doing. Um, and then she
Speaker 1: like transitioned. She was like, um, I would like to
Speaker 1: think Mark who does my hair, and I would like
Speaker 1: to thank John who does my makeup. And it's like
Speaker 1: she was just thinking all of her gay friends is
Speaker 1: so beautiful. And then she's saying the Star Spangled banner,
Speaker 1: but instead of saying that flag was still there, she
Speaker 1: said that Pride flag was still and she pulled out
Speaker 1: a bride flag. Um, anyways, we are really discovering that
Speaker 1: friend is like a yes, God, no, like a chase.
Speaker 1: It's literally it's literally the only time I've gone into
Speaker 1: gone to like you know, a sanctioned rally or whatever.
Speaker 1: But like you have to know that, like I was
Speaker 1: coming here from corn fields in Indiana. I was coming
Speaker 1: from a place where you could scroll grew then you
Speaker 1: got corn Holds and Williamsburg. I wish I was coming
Speaker 1: from a place where you could scroll through the entire
Speaker 1: Grinder roll in like two minutes. And that was all
Speaker 1: the gay people in your like you know, square my radius,
Speaker 1: like all the people grinder on grinder, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And I just like, I had just felt
Speaker 1: so overwhelmed by that feeling of being surrounded by queerness.
Speaker 1: And the next day I accidentally her into the Dike March,
Speaker 1: and Edie Windsor was like, is the moment the moment
Speaker 1: if you also do love the Drag March, which is oh,
Speaker 1: I've never seen that. Actually, march is great. It starts
Speaker 1: in the East Village in Tompkins Square Park. I believe
Speaker 1: um and and that stonewall and everyone sings over the rainbow.
Speaker 1: Of course, that's very sweet. Although I had a really
Speaker 1: horrible dysphoric experience the last time I went to the
Speaker 1: Drag March. Oh no, I'm sorry, that sucks. Well. It
Speaker 1: was the year that Pearl put me in drag for
Speaker 1: her YouTube channel. Oh god, that would make me feel insane,
Speaker 1: and it was really cool. But then I went to
Speaker 1: the Drag March and just felt like everyone thought I
Speaker 1: was a drag queen and that I was a dude,
Speaker 1: and it was like the most psychotic I've ever felt
Speaker 1: in public. It was really crazy. See. And then I
Speaker 1: went to a lady fag party afterwards and my friend
Speaker 1: and I were like, we can't deal with this right
Speaker 1: now and went back to his apartment and just railed
Speaker 1: a lot of ketamine. Oh that's nice. So that was
Speaker 1: not my favorite Pride memory. Oh um. At the Dike March,
Speaker 1: there was like a surprise. Basically. I was like, I
Speaker 1: wandered out of an hnm into the Dike March on accident,
Speaker 1: and I was kind of a metaphor it really is,
Speaker 1: it really is. And I was like, what is the spirit? Like,
Speaker 1: you know, just like lesbians like drumming with their tops
Speaker 1: off and I'm like, wow, I'm home, mama. And then
Speaker 1: there were these saundered out of a and m into
Speaker 1: the Dike March. So beautiful. That should be on Love Victor.
Speaker 1: And there were all these lesbians holding up this huge
Speaker 1: Dike March banner and they lifted up the banner and
Speaker 1: from underneath the banner crawls out, you know, five ft
Speaker 1: five Eady Windsor back when she was alive the year
Speaker 1: that Dolma was struck down. So she is the literal
Speaker 1: superhero of this moment. It And she comes out from
Speaker 1: under the banner and she's wearing a T shirt that
Speaker 1: says nobody knows I'm a lesbian, And I was just
Speaker 1: immediately started crying. Like I just looked at her. I
Speaker 1: was brought to tears. And that was like a really
Speaker 1: crystallizing moment. Like that weekend, I was just like, I've
Speaker 1: never experienced so many kind of like queer magical things
Speaker 1: in a row. There was more that happened that weekend,
Speaker 1: and I just kind of got addicted to that feeling,
Speaker 1: I guess. But like I mean, obviously those things were
Speaker 1: like very pride e but like pride sanctioned events aside,
Speaker 1: like that magic happens all the time. Um, a horrible
Speaker 1: pride memory that I have. Well, this is actually kind
Speaker 1: of dark, but it's also was. I was writing about
Speaker 1: it yesterday and infuriated me. Um. Remember the year that
Speaker 1: Nick Jonas was like gay bating out the wazoo, So
Speaker 1: that was also the year which you support I mean,
Speaker 1: his thighs were incredible. Um, there's actually a BuzzFeed video
Speaker 1: of him reading a tweet of mine about his thighs.
Speaker 1: But this is, unfortunately the year of the Pulse nightclub shooting,
Speaker 1: and he came to the fucking vigil in New York
Speaker 1: for Pulse and gave us speech and I was like,
Speaker 1: that was It was so disgusting. And I remember being
Speaker 1: in the crowd and being like, what the fuck is happening?
Speaker 1: And everyone in the crowd was confused. But that just
Speaker 1: goes to show it's like girls, like celebrities, like get
Speaker 1: your ship together, like what are you doing? Like know
Speaker 1: what space is yours? And what isn't you know? I
Speaker 1: think that my favorite Pride memory. I mean, I'm sure
Speaker 1: there's some like more ephemeral moments that are maybe like truer,
Speaker 1: but I do think that watched so Um one year
Speaker 1: I threw when I was still working in nightlife, I
Speaker 1: threw this Pride rave called Oasis, and um, Charlene performed
Speaker 1: because she was kind of like our She was like
Speaker 1: the settine of our parties, like Allah Mulah rouge, and
Speaker 1: she took her first shot of estrogen when she started
Speaker 1: transitioning on stage at this rave full of like a
Speaker 1: thousand people did. Yeah, I didn't know that. While she
Speaker 1: while she performed Fruit by Marina I love Fruit and
Speaker 1: it was like, truly one of the most transcendent communal
Speaker 1: experiences I've ever had. I started sobbing. It was like incandescent.
Speaker 1: It was amazing. Also, one year threw a party where
Speaker 1: we had drag queen mud wrestling, which was pretty fun.
Speaker 1: That's fun in New York. That was a good Pride Yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: I love that chick. It was very messy. I have
Speaker 1: so many good memories of like going to Rease. I'm
Speaker 1: going to Rease this Sunday, skipping all the Pride things,
Speaker 1: all the marches, like couldn't be me. I'm going to
Speaker 1: go to the beach. Let's go to the beach. Beach
Speaker 1: each let's go get away. I never want to go
Speaker 1: to Reese again. Ever. I hate it. What, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: want to go to a nice beach. Ah rees is
Speaker 1: the best beach in the world. No, it's not. It's
Speaker 1: really not, just because it's covered in garbage in the
Speaker 1: in the water looks like sewage, like what and it
Speaker 1: takes like seven hours to get to Yeah, so what's
Speaker 1: but that's what you might as well just go to
Speaker 1: Fire Island. It takes the same amount of time. It
Speaker 1: doesn't take the same amount of time, first of all.
Speaker 1: Second of all, I mean the Fire Island beaches are amazing,
Speaker 1: but the experience of Fire Island is kind of horrible
Speaker 1: compared to like Reese. I feel like, just just we're
Speaker 1: different girls, and wow, really I feel like Reese is
Speaker 1: like crunchy queer core, like I've never seen so many
Speaker 1: top surgery cars like and I like that part of it,
Speaker 1: but like it's just the whole Like Reese is giving
Speaker 1: like Queer Exchange Facebook group vibes, and that is not
Speaker 1: that is kind of the vibe. But I don't know,
Speaker 1: I just think it's so brief. Speach is someone posting
Speaker 1: I have half a Margarita pizza in my fridge, does
Speaker 1: anyone want it? And the first comment is a gluten
Speaker 1: freeze that is exactly it, which is an actual post
Speaker 1: that I've seen on Queer Exchange. Is it really? Yes?
Speaker 1: One time I saw not on Queer Exchange, but one
Speaker 1: sometime I saw a post on Facebook that was like,
Speaker 1: does any want to come over and help me eat
Speaker 1: this gluten free brownie? Penis that I have from a
Speaker 1: bachelorette party and it was like the biggest, ugliest, gnarliest
Speaker 1: looking penis made of brownie mix that I had ever
Speaker 1: seen in my entire life. Okay, well, let's wrap up
Speaker 1: our final Pride Phone this episode by looking back on
Speaker 1: this Pride season, which has both flown by and dragged on,
Speaker 1: and let's do this housewives style, or, as producer Phoebe said,
Speaker 1: queer commune style, queer commune house meeting style, queer commune
Speaker 1: nose meaning yeah, is there something we can hold to
Speaker 1: show who's supposed to be speaking? Dildo we pass around? Well,
Speaker 1: I actually hold on one second, I'll get your Rose
Speaker 1: Cords dildo. I'll go get my Just kidding, I don't
Speaker 1: have one. I have a little bottle of the lube,
Speaker 1: the Dakota Johnson lube I actually had drying in my
Speaker 1: in my sink, my my crystal butt plug which I
Speaker 1: used yesterday that's very stunning, um, and which I cleaned
Speaker 1: off after I used to clean your sex toys. Very
Speaker 1: smart um. So I'm holding it. So I'm what we're
Speaker 1: now going to reveal to each other is our rose
Speaker 1: which is appropriate because my dildo, my Crystal Dildo has
Speaker 1: a rose on the end. Um complimented. But I'm not
Speaker 1: allowed to speak our rose and our thorn of Pride season.
Speaker 1: So here's mine. My rose of Pride season is that
Speaker 1: I got a literary agent and and making really great
Speaker 1: progress in my book, which is like not Pride related
Speaker 1: or anything, but like whatever it is, what it is.
Speaker 1: The and the thorn of my Pride season is I
Speaker 1: could do my rose and then come back to you. Okay, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm handing you the plug. Um, so now
Speaker 1: you tell me what the rose of your Pride season? Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, I feel like you know, you said, oh,
Speaker 1: that's not Pride related, but it is. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: It's like, if you're doing something for yourself, that's pride. Right.
Speaker 1: Also because probably if and when I sell it, I'm
Speaker 1: sure they'll give it a Pride release date. No, really
Speaker 1: like it'll be coming out June to money or something. God,
Speaker 1: that's probably true. I mean maybe not. Actually, Detransition Baby
Speaker 1: didn't come out um during Pride, I don't think um,
Speaker 1: So that's I mean it is. Unfortunately, yeah, there are
Speaker 1: no other trans novels like, I mean, no I mean
Speaker 1: there's like what Nevada and like that never did not
Speaker 1: get anywhere near as close in popularity as like Detransition
Speaker 1: maybe although the Republication maybe, I don't know. Um. Anyways,
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, for me, pride is we
Speaker 1: all have this icky memory association with ugly asked rainbows. Yes,
Speaker 1: the rainbow is ugly, and we are admitting that here
Speaker 1: on this podcast, and the updated rainbow is even uglier,
Speaker 1: and like, I don't know, we can be as cynical
Speaker 1: as we want. But like, for me, like the things
Speaker 1: that defined pride and my rose for pride was seeing
Speaker 1: Hole picks Um, which is Mother Teresa's drag show here
Speaker 1: in New York where she curates just an exquisite panel
Speaker 1: of drag talent, and the show is a true like
Speaker 1: piece of theater, like all of the songs bleed into
Speaker 1: each other. There's no time between songs. They're like little
Speaker 1: sketches throughout. There's an overture, but she calls in an
Speaker 1: overture and she'll just like play a song, like she'll
Speaker 1: like blast a Sophie song and you'll sit there and
Speaker 1: wait and then the drag will start or whatever. Um.
Speaker 1: But it was like one of the best drag performances
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Props everyone that was involved in that show.
Speaker 1: And then afterwards just like hanging out with everyone ordering
Speaker 1: chicken sandwiches. I did katamine with my ex and then
Speaker 1: like smoking cigarettes and talking to everybody. And at the
Speaker 1: end of the night, it was like two am and
Speaker 1: I like never go home that late ever, And my
Speaker 1: friend Cheeky was like, oh, do you want to like
Speaker 1: bike home together because we both had to get city
Speaker 1: bikes and bike home, and like it was a full moon,
Speaker 1: and I like lit up a joint and we just
Speaker 1: like biked down the empty streets of Brooklyn on the
Speaker 1: way home together just talking about like how much we
Speaker 1: love Drag and how good that show was and like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's so like cinematic and beautiful and
Speaker 1: like I don't know, moments like that like just like
Speaker 1: make me so happy. Like literally, like the stuff of
Speaker 1: life is like all that you need. During Pride season, honey, uh,
Speaker 1: that that sounds lovely. We need thorns, Okay, So my
Speaker 1: thorn this Pride season has been well that thing that
Speaker 1: we can't talk about on the mic, that thing that
Speaker 1: we can't talk about. But if I'm being sappy my thorn.
Speaker 1: This Pride season was being so far away from you
Speaker 1: all month. But that's why these special Pride Bonus catchup
Speaker 1: episodes have been so nice because it's an extra you know,
Speaker 1: um court appointed time that I get to see your
Speaker 1: face every week. It is has been really nice to
Speaker 1: to show up and just catch up and key. But
Speaker 1: also I'm so glad I get to see your face.
Speaker 1: I r L so soon. Wait then, on the day
Speaker 1: that this podcast is being released, I will be in
Speaker 1: your arms. Yes that's true. Okay, what is I'm throwing
Speaker 1: the dildo the butt plug in your face? Um, I
Speaker 1: haven't had that much sex. To be honest, I should
Speaker 1: probably say, oh, it's been so sad not seeing you
Speaker 1: two Rose, but that would kind of feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of cheap, but that I wouldn't. I would not
Speaker 1: accept it. I feel like you would. I feel like
Speaker 1: I mean, but that that is true, Like it has
Speaker 1: been really shitty to be far away from you, because
Speaker 1: like Ashes here and so like. Otherwise it would be
Speaker 1: like I'm so far away from you and Ash oh
Speaker 1: and Channi's here too. Um, but it's so it's just you.
Speaker 1: You're You're literally all alone. I know I'm aware soon
Speaker 1: you will not be. Um, I guess yeah. My thorn
Speaker 1: is that I haven't really had that much sex, and
Speaker 1: I kind of thought I was going to come here
Speaker 1: and like clean up, But I'm having sex tomorrow. Um. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm very excited about that for you. And thank you
Speaker 1: everyone for listening to all of our Pride Bonus episodes.
Speaker 1: And as we said the day this airs, as you
Speaker 1: are listening right now, if it is still Tuesday, j
Speaker 1: tonight is our first ever live show, Like a Virgin
Speaker 1: live at three dollar Bill in Brooklyn. Tickets are probably
Speaker 1: still available. We have merch. We have a merch. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, we revealed it online. We have three crazy,
Speaker 1: sexy cool hats that you can buy exclusively at our
Speaker 1: live show. You do not want to miss it, so
Speaker 1: if you want more information, if you want to buy tickets, um,
Speaker 1: please buy them in advance because they are cheaper in
Speaker 1: advance than they are at the door. You can go
Speaker 1: to either of our instagrams, or you can go to
Speaker 1: our burner insta at Like a Virgin and follow the
Speaker 1: link to buy tickets and come see us. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be so much fun see you there. Thank you so much,
Speaker 1: to our producer Phoebe unter Light of our life, fire
Speaker 1: of our loins, and to our whole team. At my heart,
Speaker 1: happy pride, Happy pride. You can't break, so you can't
Speaker 1: break your cock outside, but you went that outside, release
Speaker 1: your academy,