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Speaker 1: nose meaning yeah, is there something we can hold to

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Speaker 1: show who's supposed to be speaking? Dildo we pass around? Well,

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Speaker 1: smart um. So I'm holding it. So I'm what we're

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Speaker 1: So here's mine. My rose of Pride season is that

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Speaker 1: The and the thorn of my Pride season is I

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Speaker 1: It's like, if you're doing something for yourself, that's pride. Right.

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Speaker 1: sure they'll give it a Pride release date. No, really

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Speaker 1: like it'll be coming out June to money or something. God,

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Speaker 1: that's probably true. I mean maybe not. Actually, Detransition Baby

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Speaker 1: didn't come out um during Pride, I don't think um,

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Speaker 1: So that's I mean it is. Unfortunately, yeah, there are

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Speaker 1: no other trans novels like, I mean, no I mean

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Speaker 1: there's like what Nevada and like that never did not

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Speaker 1: get anywhere near as close in popularity as like Detransition

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Speaker 1: maybe although the Republication maybe, I don't know. Um. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, for me, pride is we

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Speaker 1: all have this icky memory association with ugly asked rainbows. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the rainbow is ugly, and we are admitting that here

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Speaker 1: on this podcast, and the updated rainbow is even uglier,

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Speaker 1: and like, I don't know, we can be as cynical

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Speaker 1: as we want. But like, for me, like the things

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Speaker 1: that defined pride and my rose for pride was seeing

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Speaker 1: Hole picks Um, which is Mother Teresa's drag show here

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00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: in New York where she curates just an exquisite panel

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Speaker 1: of drag talent, and the show is a true like

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Speaker 1: piece of theater, like all of the songs bleed into

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Speaker 1: each other. There's no time between songs. They're like little

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Speaker 1: sketches throughout. There's an overture, but she calls in an

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00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: overture and she'll just like play a song, like she'll

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Speaker 1: like blast a Sophie song and you'll sit there and

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Speaker 1: wait and then the drag will start or whatever. Um.

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Speaker 1: But it was like one of the best drag performances

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Props everyone that was involved in that show.

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Speaker 1: And then afterwards just like hanging out with everyone ordering

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Speaker 1: chicken sandwiches. I did katamine with my ex and then

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00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: like smoking cigarettes and talking to everybody. And at the

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Speaker 1: end of the night, it was like two am and

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Speaker 1: I like never go home that late ever, And my

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00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: friend Cheeky was like, oh, do you want to like

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00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: bike home together because we both had to get city

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00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: bikes and bike home, and like it was a full moon,

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Speaker 1: and I like lit up a joint and we just

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00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 1: like biked down the empty streets of Brooklyn on the

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Speaker 1: way home together just talking about like how much we

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Speaker 1: love Drag and how good that show was and like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it's so like cinematic and beautiful and

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Speaker 1: like I don't know, moments like that like just like

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Speaker 1: make me so happy. Like literally, like the stuff of

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Speaker 1: life is like all that you need. During Pride season, honey, uh,

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00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: that that sounds lovely. We need thorns, Okay, So my

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00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,479
Speaker 1: thorn this Pride season has been well that thing that

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Speaker 1: we can't talk about on the mic, that thing that

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Speaker 1: we can't talk about. But if I'm being sappy my thorn.

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Speaker 1: This Pride season was being so far away from you

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Speaker 1: all month. But that's why these special Pride Bonus catchup

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Speaker 1: episodes have been so nice because it's an extra you know,

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Speaker 1: um court appointed time that I get to see your

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Speaker 1: face every week. It is has been really nice to

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Speaker 1: to show up and just catch up and key. But

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Speaker 1: also I'm so glad I get to see your face.

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Speaker 1: I r L so soon. Wait then, on the day

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Speaker 1: that this podcast is being released, I will be in

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Speaker 1: your arms. Yes that's true. Okay, what is I'm throwing

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Speaker 1: the dildo the butt plug in your face? Um, I

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Speaker 1: haven't had that much sex. To be honest, I should

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Speaker 1: probably say, oh, it's been so sad not seeing you

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Speaker 1: two Rose, but that would kind of feel like, you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of cheap, but that I wouldn't. I would not

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Speaker 1: accept it. I feel like you would. I feel like

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00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: I mean, but that that is true, Like it has

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Speaker 1: been really shitty to be far away from you, because

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00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: like Ashes here and so like. Otherwise it would be

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00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: like I'm so far away from you and Ash oh

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00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: and Channi's here too. Um, but it's so it's just you.

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00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: You're You're literally all alone. I know I'm aware soon

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Speaker 1: you will not be. Um, I guess yeah. My thorn

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00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: is that I haven't really had that much sex, and

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00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: I kind of thought I was going to come here

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Speaker 1: and like clean up, But I'm having sex tomorrow. Um. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited about that for you. And thank you

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Speaker 1: everyone for listening to all of our Pride Bonus episodes.

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Speaker 1: And as we said the day this airs, as you

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Speaker 1: are listening right now, if it is still Tuesday, j

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Speaker 1: tonight is our first ever live show, Like a Virgin

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Speaker 1: live at three dollar Bill in Brooklyn. Tickets are probably

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Speaker 1: still available. We have merch. We have a merch. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, we revealed it online. We have three crazy,

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Speaker 1: sexy cool hats that you can buy exclusively at our

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Speaker 1: live show. You do not want to miss it, so

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Speaker 1: if you want more information, if you want to buy tickets, um,

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Speaker 1: please buy them in advance because they are cheaper in

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Speaker 1: advance than they are at the door. You can go

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Speaker 1: to either of our instagrams, or you can go to

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Speaker 1: our burner insta at Like a Virgin and follow the

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Speaker 1: link to buy tickets and come see us. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be so much fun see you there. Thank you so much,

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Speaker 1: to our producer Phoebe unter Light of our life, fire

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Speaker 1: of our loins, and to our whole team. At my heart,

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Speaker 1: happy pride, Happy pride. You can't break, so you can't

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Speaker 1: break your cock outside, but you went that outside, release

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Speaker 1: your academy,