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Speaker 1: It was nerve wracking because I didn't know how to

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Speaker 2: David Rutherford, my best friend. Welcome to the show. Sean

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Speaker 2: Who yah and God speed, well, thank God for you know,

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Speaker 1: and I started to see what mattered more, you know, family,

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Speaker 1: my relationships to my father and my mother, my brother,

434
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,239
Speaker 1: my friends, my immediate friends as well, and then just

435
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: finding that piece again every weekend. I just started to

436
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,239
Speaker 1: build off of that. Every weekend I would go out

437
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: into the Everglades with a buddy of mine or by

438
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: myself and kind of share the passion and share, you know,

439
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 1: this is something that we wouldn't have seen if we

440
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,919
Speaker 1: weren't out here. And then from then on it kind

441
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: of just it was a stepping stone to something greater,

442
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: where I was like, I want to found in organization

443
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: because I feel like National Geographic Discovery Channel and a

444
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 1: lot of these big names, these household names, I feel

445
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,120
Speaker 1: like the magic with these organizations has kind of been

446
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: lost on us. And I say that because most of

447
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 1: their work, unfortunately feels like it gets too preachy. It

448
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: feels like they guilt trip people into certain agendas and narratives,

449
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,479
Speaker 1: and as a result, that pushes away maybe more than

450
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 1: half your audience. And I feel like, you know, growing up,

451
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: we didn't have that. We had more of the appreciation

452
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: for the wonder, the appreciation for creation, the appreciation for

453
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 1: the blade of grass right next to us that has

454
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 1: a dragonfly that is eating the mosquitoes and saving our skin.

455
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:48,160
Speaker 1: So you know, those little things where to the granular

456
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 1: level and then to the macro we we don't really

457
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: have stories that tell us the things that matter, it

458
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: feels like. And from that point on, then I started

459
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: doing some research. The crocodile thing came up that same

460
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 1: year where I photographed a rather large seventeen footer in

461
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: the Flamingo Marina. Yeah. Wow, And and I would learn

462
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 1: about him and he had a specific name, his name

463
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: is Fred. And I was just sorry I went down

464
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 1: this rabbit hole because I was at the time. I

465
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: always knew that we had crocodiles, but I had never

466
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: seen one until that day. And I thought to myself, Wow,

467
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: do we have giant crocodiles like this in the Everglades?

468
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 1: And then yeah, there's crocsilla. There's Freddy, There's fred Freddie's

469
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: from Black Marina, the other side of the coast there,

470
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 1: and that kind of I was like, Wow, this this

471
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 1: is a story that nobody talks about. And you tell

472
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: you talk to other Floridians and they'll be like, we

473
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: don't have crocodiles, we have alligators. I'm like, actually, we're

474
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: the only place on Earth that has both alligators and crocodiles.

475
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: And I have the photo.

476
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 2: So we have caans too in someplace.

477
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: Now they're popping up. They are invasive, they have been

478
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,479
Speaker 1: popping up. I haven't seen them yet, but there are

479
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: records of them popping up in the Everglades.

480
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: Now.

481
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: Okay, but that kind of like kickstarted the whole chasing

482
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: these stories, these American wilderness stories where I started picking

483
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,479
Speaker 1: up rumors here and there. Another project that we have

484
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: in the works too with the University of Arizona is

485
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: that Arizona has jaguars. And I had no idea that

486
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: we had native American, like American native jaguars. And they

487
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 1: just recently picked yeah, yeah, they just recently picked up

488
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: a couple on their game trail cameras out west, and

489
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's a great story, you know, that's tracking

490
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: a big cat that belonged to America. And we're already

491
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure you're well aware that our Florida

492
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: panthers knocking on extinction store right now.

493
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do know that. Yeah. I remember when I

494
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 2: was a kid growing up, there was a a you know,

495
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 2: a scrub area just on the other side of ninety five,

496
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: and there was regular, regular cats in there that they'd find,

497
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 2: you know, and and that Florida puma was just always around.

498
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:15,719
Speaker 2: And it's just you know, I think, man, it's almost

499
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 2: as if it's like I think, you know, like for

500
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 2: me when I hear a story, because I've always been

501
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 2: infatuated with great storytelling as well too, from early on

502
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 2: my dad was a very adamant about discovery and curiosity,

503
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: but through great storytelling. And I'm trying to forget what

504
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 2: it was, but you know, this this essence of allowing

505
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: the story of something outside of the norm to catch

506
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 2: you and pull you in. Right. So whatever it might be,

507
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 2: whether it's the the fall from grace story, or the

508
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: hero or the saving the damsel or defeating the dragon,

509
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 2: whatever archetypical story, you know that we we traditionally are

510
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 2: exposed to. You know, it's those ones in nature that

511
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 2: give the closest proximity to it, right, And you're like, whoa,

512
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 2: Like that's real, that could happen in real time. It's

513
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 2: not mythagological that's in your backyard. It's it's like, oh

514
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: my god, I can go access the magnificence of what creation,

515
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: the stories, the millions, the billions of different stories that

516
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 2: Creation tells us on this planet alone, every single day.

517
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 2: And for us when it was it used to come

518
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 2: on on Sunday nights before Disney used to have a show,

519
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: and it was this guy and and you know, he

520
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 2: had this great voice, and it'd be you know, filmed

521
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 2: over in Africa, or it'd be down in the Islands,

522
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 2: or you know, he'd go diving with Jacques Cousteau or

523
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: you know whatever it was. Member it was like they

524
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 2: were on another planet. And and my dad was the one

525
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: who always was like, you can access that if you

526
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: are adventurous and you're courageous and you you recognize what

527
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 2: is it. It's as soon as we can reshift, uh,

528
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 2: the relative interpretation of our own size in creation to

529
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: where we're not always monumentally bigger or more important than

530
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 2: these other things, right, the jaguar out in Arizona, or

531
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: you know, Croczilla in the Everglades. Like, once we realize,

532
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: oh man, those things are every bit as important and

533
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 2: as every bit as big as we are, then then

534
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,719
Speaker 2: you have the like people just get sucked into it.

535
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, go ahead.

536
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: No, No, that's fine. That's the purpose too, is that

537
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: you know not I say that we're trying to inspire

538
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: the next generation. But like you said, it's accessible. It's

539
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: in our backyard. Me every weekend, you know, I'm working.

540
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: I have an army job too. I work nine to five,

541
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: and then every day off, anytime off I have, I'm

542
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: out there and tracking Crocxilla and I keep missing him,

543
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 1: and it's become this sort of obsession of mine. And

544
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: I'm like the fact that I'm doing this. Anyone could

545
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: really do this. That's why we tell these stories that

546
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: we want to tell you guys like, hey, you don't

547
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: need you don't need to be a biologist, you don't

548
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: need to be an expert in this field. You can

549
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: go out and enjoy creation too. You don't need anyone's permission.

550
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 2: I think that's true in all art, right, I mean,

551
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 2: I mean one of my favorite stories is Rey La Montaigne, right,

552
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 2: a beautiful, beautiful balladero, you know who with his guitar

553
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: and sings these beautiful songs. He was a carpenter and

554
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 2: tell he was like forty two years old, you know.

555
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: Or you look at some you know, great painters or whatever.

556
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 2: You know that all of a sudden they're just like

557
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: they're overwhelmed by their passion and it forces their action

558
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 2: to get out there and and share what they see

559
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 2: with the rest of you know, Initially it's it's through

560
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: your friends and family, and then you know, it starts

561
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: to now with the Internet. I mean, everybody can be

562
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 2: a creator, thank god, I mean it. I you know,

563
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 2: as as much as there are aspects of social media,

564
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 2: uh in particular you know, uh, some of the hater

565
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: comments I got for you know this this past week,

566
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: but but you know, the overwhelming majority of people that

567
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 2: tap into the stories that I was trying to tell

568
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 2: about resilience, it was positive. And when I look and

569
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: I see the comments on your pieces, in particular this this,

570
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: you know, this the King of the Everglades man, Like,

571
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 2: I'm so moved by Hey, this. There's something happening right.

572
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: People are are seeking out these stories because because I

573
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: think there's so many more opportunities to do them, Like

574
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 2: when you first started, or are you worried about competing

575
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: with anybody else in the space? Are you? Are you

576
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: worried about getting funding or getting it bought, you know,

577
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: having your project bought by Netflix or whomever. It's like,

578
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 2: is that an issue for you?

579
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: You know, it's We did start a crowd funding campaign

580
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: several months ago, back in April, and it concluded I

581
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: believe it may and you know, I had a bare

582
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,479
Speaker 1: bones budget of like just give me one more camera,

583
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: a couple pieces of equipment, and let's see what we

584
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: can do here. And we were able to We were

585
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: able to pull together a little over ten thousand dollars,

586
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: which was that that exceeded my express awesome, that's awesome.

587
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: That exceeded our expectations, and I was truly grateful and blessed.

588
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: We had a massive support from our friend's family and

589
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: then the X following to the Goopers as you will

590
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: I call them. They're great group of guys there that

591
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: just like they they these are individuals who really do

592
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: care about storytelling. They care, they care about wholesomeness, they

593
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: care about what matters American history, integrity, the constitution, things

594
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: that matter and what makes America great right And to

595
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: see that sort of support and validation from others, it

596
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: gave us all the momentum you could have asked for.

597
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: And so to go back to your initial question, you know,

598
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: everyone in this space, you know, the dream is like, Oh,

599
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to get the Netflix deal, right, my stuff

600
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: is going to get on Netflix and I'm going to

601
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: get paid forty quadrillion dollars. It's like, uh, you know,

602
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: we we had we had a couple of windows into

603
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 1: the into the industry, and it was actually pretty interesting

604
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: that we got pulled in when we start getting a

605
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: little bit of traction. I sent out emails to producers

606
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: that were on IMDb or producers that were on documentaries

607
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: I enjoyed, especially recently on Netflix, BBC, and I just

608
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: I just drafted emails. I can I cannot tell you

609
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 1: how many emails I sent out. It blew to the

610
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: the face and sent out emails and then finally I

611
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 1: got maybe two people responded back, and they were producers.

612
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: And I'm not going to disclose his name, but this

613
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: individual was one of the producers on the documentaries I loved,

614
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: and he absolutely loves our work where we are pitching

615
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: our trailer and the initial photography we've done, and we

616
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: actually got on a on a sort of webcam discussion

617
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: with him and he was actually, yeah, he had worked

618
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: for BBC National Geographic and he was in works with

619
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: another National Geographic project, and he said, do you boys

620
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: want me to tell National Geographic about your your project?

621
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: And my buddy and I look at each other like, yeah, yeah, yeah, question,

622
00:35:55,960 --> 00:36:01,479
Speaker 1: that'd be nice. So unfortunately they didn't not go go

623
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: go ahead and select us. They the industry right now

624
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: is a little bit in shambles with how everything is

625
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,360
Speaker 1: the economic landscape. You know, the whole production industry is

626
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: facing close to seventy percent unemployment rate, and they're very

627
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 1: selective with where they want to throw their money because

628
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you know, you can

629
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: you can only you can always waste so many you

630
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: can always you can only waste so much money on

631
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: so many projects. And you know, with Disney, Disney owns

632
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: National Geographic, they wanted to be very selective with what

633
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: project they want to put money towards. So they said

634
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: that there isn't really a demand for expedition content, is

635
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: what was told to us, so to which I said,

636
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, because I look over on X and

637
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: I talk to a lot of people, and like, expedition

638
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: content is something that's that's missing today.

639
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 2: I feel, oh absolutely, look at how well what's his

640
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: name his show on on Netflix that came out just

641
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: where he's the parks cop. Uh oh, yes, yeah, And

642
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 2: it's like and you're like, wait a minute, the cops

643
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 2: in a national park. But like there's an edginess because

644
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,919
Speaker 2: the shooting this stuff, the photography of it is immaculate,

645
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 2: and so like it sucked me in and or you

646
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Speaker 2: look at Chris Hemsworth or I mean, obviously there's all

647
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Speaker 2: these people out there that have really done it. Well,

648
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Speaker 2: you know, I think it's a lot like chasing down

649
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Speaker 2: the Pyramids and where they were, you know, some of

650
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Speaker 2: that stuff. So I think, but I I believe that

651
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Speaker 2: you know, you guys, and what you saw gave me

652
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Speaker 2: that sensation that I had grown up with watching the

653
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Speaker 2: National Geographic stuff, watching the Disney shows, watching it Planet

654
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Speaker 2: or stuff like I had that sensation, but was even

655
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Speaker 2: cooler is that you gave it something specific right there

656
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Speaker 2: was the mission of finding Crozilla, and and you know,

657
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Speaker 2: I just thought it was incredible. That's why I was

658
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Speaker 2: just like, I gotta talk to this guy and how

659
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Speaker 2: he came up with it.

660
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Speaker 1: So it's just a little bit of a spoiler, a

661
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Speaker 1: little bit of a spoil alert. We recently discovered that

662
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Speaker 1: there is another super croc that is potentially larger than Crocsilla,

663
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Speaker 1: and he has only been photographed by two photographers so far,

664
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Speaker 1: and he is well over eighteen feet long and he

665
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Speaker 1: use a pond. Yeah, yeah, he's a monster. The photographer

666
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Speaker 1: who So this crocodile is nicknamed King. It's just it's

667
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Speaker 1: so funny that we discovered this crocodile after I had

668
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Speaker 1: named the documentary King of the Everglades. So I was

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Speaker 1: just like, cool, this is like the Lord was a

670
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Speaker 1: nice plot twist. So I bumped into the only photographer

671
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Speaker 1: that was able to get two photos of him, and

672
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Speaker 1: over the span of the last six years, he photographed

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Speaker 1: him twice and once was two ones was a couple

674
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Speaker 1: of years ago, and I believe the other instance was

675
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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, and both times at three in the morning.

676
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Speaker 1: This crocodile is out there and We're like, we got

677
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Speaker 1: to get out there somehow, some way, And oddly enough,

678
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Speaker 1: I discovered the pond that he lives in is closed

679
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Speaker 1: off to the public currently because it's gotten a mass,

680
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Speaker 1: a mass migration of spoon bills and storks now setting

681
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Speaker 1: up a nursery and the pond, and they wanted to

682
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Speaker 1: protect the nursery, you know, from tourists and anyone else

683
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Speaker 1: out there from human intervention. So we're like, this is

684
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Speaker 1: a perfect We're fighting to get permits, We're talking to you.

685
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Speaker 1: I'm exhausting every contact I can find to try to

686
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Speaker 1: get on this pond, and it's just proving very, very difficult.

687
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Speaker 1: A lot of red tape involved. But it was a

688
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Speaker 1: revelation because like, no wonder, this crocodile is as giant

689
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Speaker 1: as he is because he's got a all you can

690
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Speaker 1: eat buffet set up now with the nursery of spoon

691
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Speaker 1: bills and storks there.

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Speaker 2: to inspire curiosity, foster respect for natural environments, and cultivate

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Speaker 2: in the future from your content, Like what you're gonna

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738
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Speaker 2: show them these reels, what are they saying to you?

739
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Speaker 2: And then you know, how are you shaping the narrative

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Speaker 2: to really translate those beautiful words into that sensation that

741
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Speaker 2: people are gonna feel when they watch your stuff.

742
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Speaker 1: I think the main thing is, you know, that reconnection,

743
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Speaker 1: reconnecting with untamed wilderness and showcasing what we want to

744
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: start off with is American wilderness. I feel like there's

745
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: more than enough stories to go around and showcase. We

746
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: put together a tensative slate of ideas. One of them

747
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Speaker 1: is the American Jaguar. I was going to premiere the

748
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Speaker 1: title of it next week, but it is a Beast

749
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Speaker 1: of the Borderlands and that is that is tracking the

750
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Speaker 1: big cats of the North American jaguar and their place

751
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Speaker 1: in Arizona and showcasing their resiliency, the history. And we're

752
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Speaker 1: not trying to beat people over the head with an

753
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Speaker 1: agenda or a sort of guilt tripped message, right. This

754
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: is about like, hey, I had no idea we had jaguars.

755
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 1: I want to see that, like so, And the idea

756
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: is that we're going to go on this mission. We're

757
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: going to show you and we're going to inspire you

758
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Speaker 1: to do the same because you can do it too.

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Speaker 1: So gatekeeping is something I keep running into a lot

760
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Speaker 1: in the production realm, in conservation. It's just it's it

761
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: is a bit of a problem. I mean, gatekeeping is everywhere,

762
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 1: and all all walks of life expend.

763
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Speaker 2: Gatekeeping if you could.

764
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Speaker 1: Uh, it's it's almost this self absorption idea of this realm,

765
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Speaker 1: this this piece of information belongs to me and only me,

766
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Speaker 1: and I don't want to share it with anyone else. Yeah,

767
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Speaker 1: and they monopolize it, and they monopolize and they pick

768
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Speaker 1: and choose who gets access to it. And to me,

769
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Speaker 1: isn't that what made science great is that we can

770
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Speaker 1: all challenge the science. We can all run our own

771
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Speaker 1: experiments like we did growing up in middle school, right

772
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Speaker 1: going to the science fare and that's and you know,

773
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Speaker 1: we run into a bit of that and we kind

774
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Speaker 1: of have to like we're walking a little bit on

775
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Speaker 1: eggshells because unfortunately, I don't want to get political about it,

776
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 1: but it is left dominate, dominating, left leaning politics dominates

777
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Speaker 1: that landscape for the most part, and we kind of

778
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Speaker 1: want to break away with we kind of want to

779
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Speaker 1: recalibrate to the center. If we can on a lot

780
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Speaker 1: of these issues and show people that nature's for everyone.

781
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: It's not just for activists, it's not just for intellectuals

782
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Speaker 1: who think that they're bigger than life.

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Speaker 2: For sure. One of my closest friends has been a

784
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Speaker 2: hunter his whole life. He manages a ten thousand acre

785
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Speaker 2: hunting lease up at just north on the edge of

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Speaker 2: like Okachobe, and you know, and he is probably the

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Speaker 2: most significant conservationalists I've ever met in my life. His

788
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Speaker 2: family's very politically connected up in DC and even here

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Speaker 2: in Florida. You know, his his his sister was very

790
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Speaker 2: high up in the elections. She was a Senate approved

791
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Speaker 2: elections person, you know, for the Republican Party. His brother

792
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Speaker 2: as a conservationalist lobby for FP and l lobbyists, and

793
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Speaker 2: you know, he he is a firm believer in conservationalism.

794
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Speaker 2: And you know, he's hunted all over the place, and

795
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Speaker 2: he's actually you know, like you said, he's the one

796
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Speaker 2: who's like, I don't give a damn what your politics are,

797
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 2: but you know, if you love the outdoors, it's on

798
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Speaker 2: you to take that that to take up the mantle

799
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Speaker 2: of supporting it, protecting it, and working together regardless of

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Speaker 2: what your core political beliefs of if you love the outdoors,

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Speaker 2: you love the outdoors. I have seen that taking place

802
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Speaker 2: now more than I've ever seen it as a result

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Speaker 2: of what we just saw with Braxton in the establishment

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Speaker 2: of the Sage Brush Institute. Uh, can you explain your

805
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Speaker 2: relationship with them and and what your position with them

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Speaker 2: and how you came about being volunteer volunteered for that.

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Speaker 1: So it all started with a discussion over wolves. I'm sure,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you know the backstort with Braxton

809
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 1: being the wolf appreciator because he got so much flak

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Speaker 1: for calling out the Colorado policy of reintroducing gray wolves,

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Speaker 1: which that's a separate topic altogether, but right right, h

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Speaker 1: we we befriended each other over that issue. Uh, I

813
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: think over a year ago now, and we both have

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Speaker 1: an appreciate for the appreciation for the great outdoors. And

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Speaker 1: he kind of took point on the whole on the whole, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, the whole public land sale bill that was

817
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Speaker 1: going to be pushed through, and we just all fell

818
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Speaker 1: in line and you know, cooked together as many means

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Speaker 1: as we could and bully politicians into into telling him like, no,

820
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Speaker 1: this is not right, this is not what we voted

821
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Speaker 1: for in terms of sage Brush Institute. You know, they

822
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Speaker 1: they had put together a great board of individuals and

823
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Speaker 1: they are putting together you know, it sounds like I'm

824
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Speaker 1: quoting the Avengers. I'm putting together a team. And they

825
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: got all these they got all these sort of you know,

826
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Speaker 1: big name influencers on X and different platforms that are

827
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Speaker 1: gonna are gonna do some wonderful work for Sagebrush. And

828
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Speaker 1: I remember I was coming back from the Everglades and

829
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Speaker 1: I got a DM notification for Braxton and he's just like, hey,

830
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Speaker 1: you're gonna be the Florida like chairman or president for

831
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Speaker 1: the for the Florida Chapter. I'm valling telling you, and

832
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Speaker 1: he like, he shows me the meme of like pointing

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Speaker 1: a gun at me, Like all.

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Speaker 2: Right, all right, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, if you say so. He went ahead and said like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I think you do. You do great work as a

837
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Speaker 1: as leader of the chapter. He went ahead and made

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Speaker 1: the announcement a couple of weeks ago. And I've had

839
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Speaker 1: a bunch of people flood the DMS and reach out

840
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: to me, which has been amazing. And I have all

841
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: this responsibility announce to try to pick a spot somewhere

842
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: where everyone could drive to in South Florida, maybe where

843
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: we can all meet up and discuss some potential you know,

844
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: you know hot topics that we want to tackle for

845
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Speaker 1: a sagebrush.

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Speaker 2: You know, Hot Springs is a beautiful place You've got.

847
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 2: I mean all kinds of amazing places around Lake Okachobee

848
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Speaker 2: that are incredible. I mean up in the Panhandle that's beautiful.

849
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,439
Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of spots. But I think

850
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 2: a lot of people just think that you know, Florida's

851
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 2: strip malls and in highway, right, but they have no

852
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: idea how diverse our ecosystem is, right, And and I

853
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Speaker 2: just I love that you have joined that organization as

854
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:04,240
Speaker 2: you I can already tell I'm a massive supporter of Braxton's,

855
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 2: I'm a massive supporter of sage Brush, and and you know,

856
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Speaker 2: I just think you're going to make a tremendous, tremendous

857
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Speaker 2: addition to to that.

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Speaker 1: So congratulations, Thank you. It was an honor, it's a privilege.

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Speaker 1: It's something that I will take very seriously. And the

860
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: big thing is too, I don't want to be the

861
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 1: focal point. I want to empower Floridians I want everyone

862
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: to show up voice or opinion. No one's going to

863
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 1: get silenced. That's all discuss like you know, at the

864
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: dinner table, almost like it's an open discussion. That's it's

865
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: it's not a bad thing to share ideas, right. We

866
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 1: don't want just one or two people to lead point

867
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Speaker 1: and tell everyone how to think.

868
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Speaker 2: So absolutely absolutely I love that. Okay, So let's talk

869
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Speaker 2: about the release of this what the next six months

870
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 2: year looks like for you? What what what are the

871
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 2: next big steps and hurdles, and just explain what the

872
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 2: roadmap looks for you and your organization over the foreseeable future.

873
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,800
Speaker 1: So we are filming. We're in the midst of filming

874
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 1: King of the Everglades. It is going to be a

875
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: seasonal documentary series. We have seven chapters mapped out. We're

876
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:20,240
Speaker 1: trying to hit twenty minutes per chapter because worst case scenario,

877
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: we're looking at putting this thing out on YouTube and

878
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: X maybe ex original it remains to be seen. So

879
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: that's what's the next year and a half looks like.

880
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 1: In terms of the King of the Everglades production. We

881
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: are working with FPL, their crocodile expert. I just sent

882
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: over a proposal over to them, so I'm waiting for

883
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,399
Speaker 1: feedback from them so we can get access to their

884
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 1: cooling canals where they have a crocodile sanctuary there, and

885
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 1: that's part of the over incompanying the overarching story of

886
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: King of the Everglades is to showcase the conservation, right.

887
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: I did get invited by a biologist out west for

888
00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: gray Wolf project out in Lassen National Park, last in

889
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: Volcanic National Park out west in northern California, where this

890
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 1: biologist and his team have been tracking the reintroduction of

891
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: the almost or once extinct, sorry once extinct gray wolf

892
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: in northern California, and they live in a shadow of

893
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 1: a volcano. So it sounded very interesting and he invited me.

894
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: So I'll be heading out there next year just to

895
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: work on that story as well while I'm working on

896
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: King of the Everglades, And then we're just gearing up

897
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: hopefully in the next year or two, once we pick

898
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: up maybe a little bit more financial support more of

899
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: a following two, we're going to be working on some

900
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: other projects we have lined up, like the Arizona Jaguar

901
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: Beast of the Borderlands. So that's what we have on

902
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: our plate right now, just a newsletter, working with Sagebrush

903
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 1: on a couple of things as well, and taking up

904
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: the mantle of Florida. Man, it feels like. And then

905
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see where we go. We're going to

906
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 1: try to shoot to get the first chapter of King

907
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,919
Speaker 1: of the Everglades out by fall next year.

908
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 2: Okay, that sounds beautiful, all right? So how can people

909
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 2: support you? How can people support the effort? How can

910
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 2: they not only support what you're doing at explorers dot

911
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 2: org but also sagebrus support.

912
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: My caffeine addiction, Buy me a coffee. I don't want to.

913
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to really ask for anything, but you know, all.

914
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 2: Right, I'm gonna do it. Listen, everybody, it's very difficult

915
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:28,479
Speaker 2: to do this work. It's very difficult to meet young

916
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 2: people that are inspired to take on these monumental hurdles.

917
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 2: You know, the the industry itself, like he said, is

918
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 2: very insulated and what they're choosing to get behind financially.

919
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 2: And so I'm here to tell you this, This young

920
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 2: man is the real deal. His organization's real deal, and

921
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,000
Speaker 2: more importantly, his art is the real deal. That's what

922
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 2: got me to him. I watched his trailer. He meant

923
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 2: it moved me and so that's what made me do it.

924
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 2: So go to their website that's explorers dot org. And

925
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 2: and you know it's it's fifty dollars, it's one hundred dollars.

926
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 2: We're not asking for twenty thousand or fifty thousand dollars.

927
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. What these young men, what they need is

928
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 2: to tell beautiful stories for you and your children. Is

929
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 2: they need just a little bit of help here and there.

930
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 2: You know, don't go to Starbucks for a month and

931
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Speaker 2: give them a hundred bucks, you know, so I'll ask.

932
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:24,240
Speaker 2: Don't worry. It's my pleasure.

933
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, truly, you know, every dollar goes a

934
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: long way. And I'm incredibly grateful and blessed to have

935
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,479
Speaker 1: the support that we have and for many years to come.

936
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Speaker 1: So I'm excited to get these stories out to you guys.

937
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: And who knows, maybe I'll be in one of my

938
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: followers backyards next year.

939
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Speaker 2: Oh man, I love that. I love that all right?

940
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 2: So where can people follow you where you are?

941
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: Yeah? I have an Instagram action Xander, just the same

942
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: as my ex handle or username action Xander, and then

943
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: eXplorist Society is our username as well on Instagram. You

944
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: can find us on Facebook and Instagram. Twitter both explores

945
00:55:02,239 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: society and myself action Xander.

946
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Speaker 2: Well, Alexander, I'm just truly honored that you shared your passion,

947
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 2: your your your love of creation and what's available. I'm

948
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Speaker 2: also very honored that you would talk a little bit

949
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 2: about losing your friend. You know the way I look

950
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 2: at that. You know, I've lost a lot of friends

951
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 2: over the last you know, ten years to suicide, and

952
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 2: and you know, each one of them, they inspire me

953
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,279
Speaker 2: to do what I do every day, to try and

954
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 2: bring some goodness to the world, to try and help

955
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 2: people when they're down. And so you know, at the

956
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,919
Speaker 2: end of the day, I'm sure he's smiling down on you,

957
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 2: moved by who what you are. And then also he's

958
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 2: he's that little inspiration to keep walking through that that

959
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,919
Speaker 2: thunderstorm of mosquitoes that's coming down on you out there,

960
00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 2: and pretty soon jaguars, jaguars hunch you down out you

961
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 2: go out to Arizona. So thank you so much, God

962
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 2: bless you, and we wish you all the luck. And

963
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 2: when you're ready to release anything, just hit us up.

964
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Speaker 2: We'll have you back on and we'll play a little

965
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:15,479
Speaker 2: bit of the clip and we'll just keep keep going

966
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Speaker 2: helping you there.

967
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Speaker 1: I appreciate that a lot, David, and shout out to Jordy.

968
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Speaker 1: You guys are doing wonderful work. Thank you so much,

969
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 1: and God bless you both.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.