1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: This is the Colts Free Agent Tracker, a look at 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: some key in house free agents this offseason. Hey, this 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: is the final Free Agent Tracker podcast before we start 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: the new league year in the NFL coming up on Wednesday. 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm Matt Taylor. It's good to be with you. Joined 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: today in studio by Bill Brooks and JJ Stangovitz, and 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: we saved the most interesting for last on our Free 8 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: Agent Tracker podcast series because today we're looking at the 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: free agent stock of wide receiver t Y Hilton as 10 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: we tape this on Monday, the first day of the 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: legal tampering period. And Bill, when was the last time 12 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: you were tampered with? That's what I want oxy moron 13 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: to say, legal tampering. I know it isn't oxymoor warm, 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: but I was never good enough to be tampered with. 15 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: Let's go no, no, jj, I imagine the last time 16 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: you were tampered with was this morning? Just like me 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: with a two year old. Yeah, right, threw a tantrum 18 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: on the way to work, tampering and evolving the color 19 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: of milk cup my twins got. That was Yeah, that 20 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: was a fight. Tampering and tantrum. They're in the same name, 21 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: you know it. Yeah, I remember those days. I don't 22 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: want to wish those days away, but but sometimes it 23 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: would be easier if you know, my two year old 24 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 1: was four or five and all all in due time. 25 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: But we got a lot to talk about this week, JJ, 26 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: it's gonna be nuts. You were just talking before we 27 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: hit the record button here that this week is. It's 28 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: got the potential to be uh, some pretty late nights 29 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: around that keyboard of yours. It's funny. It's funny, Matt. 30 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: You know whenever someone asks me, who doesn't you know, 31 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: totally know what my job is? Like? Oh, so this 32 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: must be kind of a you know, a downtime for you. 33 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: There's probably not much for you to do, like no, 34 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: like Bill. Bill made a good point where you're not 35 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: painting the house this week? No right, No. Bill made 36 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: the point that this is almost more stressful than the 37 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: regular season because the regular season you have a routine. 38 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: You know, Matte, you you know what shows you're doing. 39 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: You know, I know what I'm writing, and this week 40 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: I don't know who the cults are going to sign. 41 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: I don't know what they're gonna do, and that unknown 42 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: it's exciting. I love this time but it is a constant. 43 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: You gotta have your phone on you at all times. 44 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: You gotta see what's going on. You gotta be available. 45 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: It's uh, it's a fun week, but it is a 46 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: stressful week and it can happen in like one in 47 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: the morning too. I remember when I covered the Bears 48 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 1: they signed Alan Robinson at about three o'clock in the morning, 49 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: and I mean literally, Matt Naggie and Ryan Pace they 50 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: were they just stayed at Hollis Hall to get that 51 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: deal done. And Matt Naggie just slept under his desk 52 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: that night in his office because he was like, you know, 53 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: I'm not going home. And I remember waking up, you know, 54 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: to three am tweet from Adam Schefter, So that was 55 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: that was fun. Yeah, we've all been there, certainly well. 56 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: Free agency and the new league year that starts legally 57 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, and as always, if the Cults make moves, 58 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 1: we'll be talking about it this week on cults dot 59 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: Com and all the podcast channels, and of course JJ 60 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: will be writing about it. All right, So let's take 61 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: a look at Ty Hilton, who told Chris Ballard a 62 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: few weeks ago that he's interested and coming back and 63 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: playing in his eleventh season. Now if that's or we 64 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: have to wait and see if that's going to be 65 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: with the Colts or not. But for the second straight 66 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: off season, he is a free agent coming off twenty 67 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: three catches in ten games last year, three hundred and 68 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: thirty one yards, a couple of touchdowns, And as we 69 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 1: all know, that's a very unlike Ty type of a 70 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: season because he missed seven games with injuries to his neck, 71 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: his head, and his foot. He had fewer than four 72 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: catches seven games and fewer than fifty two yards in 73 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: nine games. So, Bill, it is very appropriate to start 74 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: with you because you played the game at a very 75 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: high level of the same position. But I want to 76 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: go back a couple of weeks to the combine. Let's 77 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: start there. How surprised were you to hear that t 78 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: Y wants to come back in twenty twenty two? According 79 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: to Chris Ballard, because he and Jack Doyle very tight, 80 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: very good friends inside the locker room, they were thought 81 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: to make their decision together or in terms of retirement. 82 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: Come to find out Jack is hanging it up and 83 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: Ty still wants to play. Were you surprised at that decision? 84 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: I was a little surprised at that decision that t 85 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: Y still wanted to play. Hearing that from Chris Ballard 86 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: that Ty wants to still play and go out there 87 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: and give it another shot as far as out there 88 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: on the football field. But it's surprised me a a little 89 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 1: bit because I also was thought that maybe he might 90 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: be a little frustrated, depending on, you know, what was 91 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: going on, especially last year and him being so banged 92 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: up and injured and not being able to play, and 93 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: also in two thy nineteen being banged up a little bit. 94 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: So a lot of times when you when you injured 95 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: and you're playing and you can't play at the level 96 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: you think you should be able to play because of injuries, 97 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: that makes it a little frustrating. And sometimes you might 98 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: think that, you know what, maybe I've lost a step. 99 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: Maybe followed times has caught up with me, so maybe 100 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: I should hang it up. But you know what, he 101 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: feels like he still can play and can ask some 102 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: value to this team that he wants to come back 103 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: and try for another year. Here's something interesting. So when 104 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: Chris Ballard said that at the combine, the Ty told 105 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: him he wanted to come back and play, I mean 106 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: I was a little surprised. You know, I thought a 107 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: lot of signs are pointing two. Yeah, yeah, I thought 108 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: a lot of signs were pointing to him, you know, 109 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: making twenty twenty one his last year. But then you 110 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: go when you look at some stuff and you can 111 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: see there's still some juice left there with t Y Hilton. 112 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: So yards per target pretty decent stat just to kind 113 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: of look at, you know, a guy's volume and usage. 114 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: T Y Hilton average eight point nine yards per target. 115 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: That was higher than he had in nineteen or twenty twenty, nineteen, 116 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: two and twenty. It was where he was at in 117 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen when he caught fifty seven passes for nine 118 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty sixty yards. Now that's not to say 119 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: blanketly the t Y Hilton is the same player he 120 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: was in twenty seventeen. He's a different player. But to me, 121 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,039 Speaker 1: that told me, hey, you know, with some you know, 122 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: the way that he was used in the offense. You 123 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: get him the ball and he can still make some plays. 124 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: And I think we saw that at times last year. 125 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: You know where Frank Reich would you know, go up 126 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: to him on the sideline like we saw in Hard 127 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: knocks and say, look, no, we believe in you, like 128 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,119 Speaker 1: you're gonna need to be the guy at some point 129 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: for us. And that didn't totally materialize. But maybe part 130 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: of that wasn't all just t Y, you know, being 131 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: in his thirties and being hurt. Maybe there are some 132 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 1: other factors involved in it that you know, we obviously 133 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: don't know about in terms of play calling, scheme, whether 134 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks reads were, whatever it may be. So when 135 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: I looked at that, I kind of thought, yeah, well, 136 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: maybe Ty does still have something left in the tank 137 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: that he could bring to the Colts or another team 138 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. Yeah, I mean, if you look 139 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: at it, Bill, I mean, JJ's right, plus all that, 140 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: plus he's played with four different quarterbacks in that time. 141 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at in his first seven seasons, 142 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: which equates to one hundred and eight games, his averages 143 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: were about seventy five yards per game and about sixteen 144 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,799 Speaker 1: yards per catch. Those numbers, Bill, in the last three 145 00:06:55,800 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: seasons are about forty five yards per game and twelve 146 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: yards per catch. So where do you weigh in on 147 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: that sixty four thousand dollars question that that is, how 148 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: much does t Y have left in the tank, as 149 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: he embarked more than sixty four thousand dollars for t Y. Yes, yes, 150 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: say we're all of us. We're living in the in 151 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: the normal world. I mean, I know gas is pretty 152 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: high right now, speaking of money, But what do you 153 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: think that means for t Y? Well, I think what 154 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: it means for t Y. I think t Y does 155 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: have something left in the tank. I think he had 156 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: He's not the player he was in two thousan sixteen 157 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: when he had over ninety catches for over fourteen hundred yards. 158 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: He's not that player, but he is a player that 159 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: brings some value to that wide receiver room. I think 160 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 1: he's a guy that has some leadership skills that he 161 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: can help with those young guys. I think he's a 162 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: guy that still can make plays. I think he there's 163 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: certain plays that routes. I think that he's real good 164 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: at the comeback route, the over routes. Those are some 165 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: routes that he does really well out there in a 166 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: football field. So he can ask some value to the 167 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: wide receiver room. I think, especially when it comes to 168 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: leadership to young guys, they need someone in that room 169 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: that has some leadership that has some experience and playing 170 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: and preparing for games, preparing for a season, and just 171 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: playing then in the National Football League where a lot 172 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: of these guys haven't had a lot of experience and 173 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: playing the game of the National Football League. Michael Pittman 174 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: right now is one of the ones that on the 175 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,680 Speaker 1: crime track that has the most experienced playing in that 176 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: wide receiver room. So they need a guy that can 177 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: help these young guys out that the Coats have to 178 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: bring some value not only to the wide receiver room 179 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: but to the team in general leadership and some experience 180 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: that he has that can translate to helping those guys 181 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: out on the football field, off the football field, and 182 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: just being professional. So so what's his role next season? 183 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: Is he good enough JJ to be the number two 184 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: in this offense? Currently speaking behind Michael Pittman, who's heading 185 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,560 Speaker 1: into year number three, He's coming off a one thousand 186 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: yards season. Is t Y the number two still at 187 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: where he is in his career? Probably not, And you 188 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: do need a factor in the games that Ty missed, 189 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: you know, with the neck injury, with the concussion. You know, 190 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: Tis played in ten games in two of his last 191 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: three seasons, So meaning He's missed six and seven games 192 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: in that span. So I don't think if the Colts 193 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: do bring him back, they would view him as a 194 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: number two. But Ty could be a valuable guy, a 195 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: valuable target in you know, the kind of that you know, 196 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: say a number four, number three, number five type, in 197 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: that kind of range where maybe he doesn't get you know, 198 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: the seventy targets or ninety targets or a hundred targets, 199 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: but is used in a maybe in a similar role 200 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: to where he was last year, where you know he 201 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: still got some juice. You know he can go make 202 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 1: some plays and you know that he's going to be reliable, 203 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: especially on third down with some of those routes Bill 204 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: that you mentioned there. But beyond that, t Y Hilton's 205 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: leadership in this offense is so important, especially for a 206 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: wide receiver room that will probably be pretty young again 207 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. No matter what the Colts do 208 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: in free agency, it's still gonna lean toward being young. 209 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: You know, Michael Pittman's going into his third year, you 210 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: got it. You know, Desmond Patman's going into year three, 211 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: Mike Strown into year two, some of those guys and 212 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: just for the entire offense and really the entire team. 213 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:28,439 Speaker 1: Ty When he speaks, players really listen. And that's something 214 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 1: that I talked to Frank Reich about during the season, 215 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: about t Y just knowing when to pick his spots. 216 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: And that's such an important quality for a leader to 217 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: know when to speak and how to speak, and t 218 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: Y knows how to do those two things. So I 219 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: think there's some value in that as well. I mean, 220 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: JJ just talked about it Bill. With the young core 221 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: that this team has, and you know, certainly there's a 222 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: lot of potential there, but there's also there's not a 223 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: lot of proven commodities, right with Mike Strown basically getting 224 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: a red shirt, ear Ashton doing more involved in the 225 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: offense last year than he ever has been before. Same 226 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: thing with Desmond Patman. We saw it late in the 227 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: season with that touchdown on Christmas Night against the Arizona Cardinals. 228 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: So let's go big picture on it. How much do 229 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: the Colts need a proven and reliable receiver, another guy 230 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: to compliment their young core and Michael Pittman Heading into 231 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,599 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two season, I would like to see the 232 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: Colts get another proven, reliable receiver that can make big plays. 233 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:31,319 Speaker 1: I think we heard Chris Ballott during combine about having 234 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: big playmakers. Playmakers gots can make some big plays, some 235 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: guys that can make some big chunk plays for the offense, 236 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: and they need that and they want to improve in 237 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: the passing game. You heard Frank Reich said they want 238 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: to improve in the passing game as far as Chris 239 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 1: Ballott as well as Chris Ballott say that also. So 240 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: I think if they can go out there and find 241 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: someone that is reliable, can be a big play guy 242 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: for them, that would help that room out, not only 243 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: just as far as from a production on the football field, 244 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: but also as far as leadership off the football field 245 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: as well. So you have a guy that's been proven 246 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: it knows how to do it, and he not only 247 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: can do it on the football field, but he can 248 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: help those young guys and show those young guys what 249 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: it takes to be a professional wire receiving in the 250 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: National Football League. Yeah, you think about just that, that 251 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: example that Ty sets u you know, even when it 252 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: comes to you know, something like run blocking, where that's 253 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: not something that t Y Hilton is you know, maybe 254 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: known for, but the willingness to stick your face in 255 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: there and and do those things. M you know, especially 256 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: depending on what might happen to Zach Pascal in free agency. 257 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: Just you know that that overall that leadership at that room. 258 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: And you know, granted t Y Hilton and Reggie Wayne 259 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: are very close, so that's another aspect too, this that 260 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 1: if Ty does come back, he's not playing with Reggie 261 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: Wayne anymore, but he's being coached by Reggie Wayne. And 262 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,200 Speaker 1: that's kind of another you know, neat little wrinkle. Um. 263 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 1: You know, because t Y always talks about how Reggie 264 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: was one of his favorite teammates. Um. You know, maybe 265 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: that's something that kind of reinforces that leadership in a 266 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: young position room. You know, especially with Reggie Way not 267 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: having much experience as a wide receiver coach, having kind 268 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 1: of that you know, that veteran in there too, like 269 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: t Y Hilton to you know, help reinforce that message 270 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: that you know that might not hurt either. I want 271 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: to go back to something you guys brought up earlier, 272 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: just the rotating cast of quarterbacks that have been here. 273 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's obviously a less than ideal situation 274 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: to have four different quarterbacks in four years for a 275 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: guy like t Y Hilton. Bill, you're the perfect guy 276 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: to ask this question because again, you play this position 277 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: at a high level. You're in the cultur ring of 278 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: honor for doing it. How much does the starting quarterback 279 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: impact any receiver's production and what do you think that 280 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: has meant for for t Y Hilton's production since we've 281 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: seen him have a different quarterback throwing him the ball 282 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: since twenty eighteen. Well, a quarterback plays a part in 283 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: the production of any wide receiver, right why or whoever 284 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: it is because you have to work on your timing 285 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: as between the receiver and the quarterback, and regards to 286 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: the routes and running who you're playing on defense, how 287 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 1: the defenders playing you inside, outside, off, bump and run 288 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: so hit. The relationship to the quarterback and the receiver 289 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: has plays a big part in the production of how 290 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: well the passing game is going to go, how well 291 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna produce out there in the football fielding You 292 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: need time together. This and a good receiver quarterback combination 293 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: relationship has to have some time together. When you have 294 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: that time together, it produces better results for the team, 295 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: better results for you two. So it plays a big 296 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: role in what goes on out there in the football fields. 297 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: First production for the receiver, because the receiver needs the quarterback, 298 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: and receiver needs the quarterback to understand what he's doing, 299 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: what he's not going to do. In rice versus, the 300 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: receiver needs understand what the quarterback's going to do. Because 301 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: when you have that connection, you know when the quarterback 302 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: is going to throw the ball. You have just a 303 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: gut feel that, hey, the ball's coming out now to 304 00:14:58,120 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: me at this point, I need to get my head 305 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: around or you know that the question. You know that 306 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: the guys is going to be ready to photoball. You know, 307 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: the guy's gonna be ready to come out of his break. 308 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,479 Speaker 1: So all this timing between the receiver and the quarterback 309 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: has to work out, and that takes place a lot 310 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: of times during the offseason. And I saw that firsthand. 311 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: I mean I did sideline reporting on radio, you know, 312 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: the in the heyday of Andrew Luck and t Y Hilton, 313 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: and we all know how close those two guys were. 314 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: And you saw it. I mean you saw just eye 315 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: contact or hand gestures, and both guys knew exactly what 316 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: that meant. They had their own little language, so to speak, 317 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: and we all know what an unorthodox type of receiver 318 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: that t Y Hilton can be at times to get 319 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: himself open. JJ, this is gonna blow you away because 320 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: to that point, in the last three seasons, forty nine 321 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: games for t Y Hilton, he has just under sixteen 322 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: hundred receiving yards. Right, In fourteen games with Andrew Luck 323 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, the last time that duo played together, 324 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: t Y Hilton had one thousand, two hundred and seventy yards, 325 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: So that seventy nine percent of his last three year 326 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: total he compiled in twenty eighteen. So I think for 327 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: a lot of guys, specifically t Y Hilton quarterback and 328 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: who's throwing you the ball, it definitely plays a part 329 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: in your production and just that comfort level that you 330 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: can have on the field. And then with a different 331 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: quarterback every year and a lot of these quarterbacks not 332 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: throwing to t Y Hilton in the spring, I think 333 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: that's mattered. I really hope. Yeah, yeah, without a doubt. 334 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: And you know, it's one thing to you know, throw, 335 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: you know, throwing a football like high school football field somewhere, 336 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: and it's another thing to really get that in practice 337 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: seven seven yes, seven defense yea right, you get seven 338 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: on seven, you're going up against the defensive back. There 339 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: are you know, more bodies in there. Um, you know 340 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: that timing stuff really matters. And I think that's something 341 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: that Ty can you know, bring again you know it is, 342 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: And Bill, I want to get your thought on this, 343 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: because this is something I've loved talking to wide receivers about, 344 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: is that every receiver has their own little nuances of 345 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: where they want the ball, how they want the ball, 346 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: how where, Like when they want the ball on a 347 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: certain kind of a route, Like do you want me 348 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: to owned off my post a little bit? Uh? You know, 349 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: do you want me to go a little bit deeper? 350 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: Where do you want my depth to be? Like that's 351 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: all very very you know, stringent on you know, contingent, 352 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: excuse me, on the quarterback wide receiver relationship. Is getting 353 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 1: those things down and for t Y and how to 354 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: go through another year where you know, well, you know, 355 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: there might be another quarterback here. Like it's it's that's hard. 356 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: That's really hard on a wide receiver, isn't it. It 357 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: is hard. It's hard. We're going from one quarterback to 358 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 1: another quarterback. And because you worked out all those nuances 359 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: with that one quarterback, and you know, hey, look the 360 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: quarterback wants me to do this on a route. He 361 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: wants me to round it off here, he wants me 362 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: to come out sharp. Here, he wants me to come 363 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: back a little two more steps here. The balls won't 364 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 1: come out at this timing, so I need to make 365 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: sure I get out of my break real quick. So 366 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: all those things you work on, you work on and 367 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: practice and practice and practice, and then all of a 368 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: sudden someone else comes in. Then there's another quarterback you 369 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: have to get you too, and you guys have to 370 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: go through that again, and it's just a lot of communication, 371 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: a lot of repetitions, a lot of watching film all things. 372 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: So it's very important that they have their leadership and 373 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 1: they have that time together where they can work on 374 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: those little things that make the route more crisper, make 375 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 1: the pass. A lot of crispers come out on time 376 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: catching ball. So all things play apart. So it is 377 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: important for the quarterback and receive to have that relationship 378 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: where they understand why another and they can make the 379 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: big plays. And we needed outstanding work as always, gentlemen. 380 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: It's a busy week, but a fun week. As we 381 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: talked about earlier. We've got NFL free agency, we've got 382 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: quarterbacks on the move, we've got quarterbacks coming out of retirement. 383 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: It has been nuts already and basically we haven't even 384 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 1: started yet. So it's going to be a great week. 385 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: And plus we've got the NC Double A tournament going 386 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 1: on in the background. Don't forget about that, So don't 387 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: turn off your TV for a second. Between news in 388 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: the NFL and buzzer beaters on the hardwood. A MLB 389 00:18:56,040 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: free agency too, don't forget about. Well, they're making moves 390 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: in basically sitting out the season. So it's gonna be awesome. Yes, 391 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 1: I can't wait for baseball and and then the first 392 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 1: week and then I'll you know, start cutting grass and 393 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,360 Speaker 1: focusing on more important things, things that don't make me mad. Bill, 394 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 1: who you got, who's your who's your team in the bracket? 395 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: Who's going all the way? I don't know, you know what? 396 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the Arizona. Yeah, fun team to watch, man, 397 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: It's really fun team to watch. Not Arizona. I'm I'm 398 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: I'm kind of pulling for Gonzaga as well. Huh, didn't 399 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: didn't get the job done here in Indy last year, 400 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: so they can come through this time. JJ, what about you, man? 401 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: So my wife and I have a We do a 402 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: bracket every year and the winner gets, you know, some 403 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: sort of prize, and this year the prize is a 404 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 1: morning off of childcare beauty. So, dude, the stakes are high, legit, 405 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 1: the stakes are high for me to get a Gonzaga 406 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: Auburn championship game that is won by Gonzaga. Now you 407 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 1: just do an overall wins or do you have points? 408 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: So I got I got a point system ready to go. 409 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: It is going to be intense in the stink of 410 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:58,959 Speaker 1: its household over the next couple of weeks. Now, when 411 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: is the morning? Is that just noon? Like, when's the 412 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: what's the shut up? The morning is from seven am 413 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: until they go down for a nap, So it's about 414 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 1: seven am until twelve thirty pm. That's we're talking for 415 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: those with kids. You know, that is a real, real 416 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: prize right there at five and a half hours. Is 417 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: gonna seem like that twenty four hours, it's gonna be 418 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: on a vacation. Man, you could go, you could go 419 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: to the Jimmy can do whatever you want. He sticks. 420 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: They're high, no question about all right, Well, good luck 421 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 1: to you. Man. That's a big deal right there. If 422 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: you need any babysitting help, you can call Bill Brooks. 423 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: He's happy to help. Man. He can change the diapers 424 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: with the best of him. I'm free. It's fun breaking 425 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: down all the top in house free agents for the 426 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: Colts these last couple of weeks. We'll have the podcast 427 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: coming up tomorrow, and then we're still leaking out combine 428 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: content that we gathered a few weeks ago. We were 429 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: so loaded, so we've been pretty strategic with that, and 430 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: then coming up on Thursday, we'll have our inside the 431 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 1: Draft conversation with Chris Trepasso this week from CBS, and 432 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: then on Friday, we'll recap the week that was the 433 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: first few days up in feel free agency for the 434 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts. That on the last word. 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