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Speaker 1: teenagers that are just looking to learn self defense, and

427
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Speaker 1: I'm training them instead, you know. So I'm getting hit

428
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Speaker 1: in the face a whole lot less and uh, and

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Speaker 1: I'm still getting to kind of participate in the culture,

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Speaker 1: you know. And uh, I haven't taught anyone since my

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Speaker 1: MCMAP days in the Marine Corps, you know. So it's

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Speaker 1: it's been a lot of fun to kind of shift

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Speaker 1: you know, shift lanes a little bit. It's not as

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Speaker 1: much fun to coach as it is to fight, but

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Speaker 1: it's still fun, you know. Yeah, And we'll get to

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Speaker 1: the fitness stuff in a little bit, because I know

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Speaker 1: that you've been writing about that um, but one more

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Speaker 1: email here and I thought this was a good one

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Speaker 1: from here in Hey, guys, love the show. You guys

440
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Speaker 1: have been a great source of education regarding soft in

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Speaker 1: the military as a whole. I'm nineteen and about to

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Speaker 1: leave for boot I eventually want to go to A

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Speaker 1: and S for the seventy five or SF. I know

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Speaker 1: what the conflicts the Middle East dying down, with the

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Speaker 1: iraqis really stepping up against its ISIS problem, as well

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Speaker 1: as Rocca recently getting liberated. In the coming years, I

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Speaker 1: don't see us being as active in the Middle East?

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Speaker 1: Or am I wrong? Fast forward three or four years.

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Speaker 1: What do you see the seventy five and SF doing

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Speaker 1: is their primary roles? Thank you guys again for all

451
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Speaker 1: of your hard work. And that's from Kieran. Well, I'll say,

452
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Speaker 1: first and foremost the best guy to ask that question

453
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Speaker 1: would be Jack Murphy. But but well, I don't know

454
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Speaker 1: when the hell of that man is gonna be back

455
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Speaker 1: because he's been like he's super busy. I'm you know,

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Speaker 1: I did see him at his wedding, but other than that,

457
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Speaker 1: I missed him on the podcast. I know all you

458
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Speaker 1: guys do as well, But you know the story breaking

459
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Speaker 1: in Nigeria this over these past few weeks and stuff

460
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Speaker 1: like that as a clear example though that US especially

461
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Speaker 1: is not going to see a significant reduction in op

462
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Speaker 1: tempo in the coming years. I know that ISIS is

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Speaker 1: effectively being routed out of Iraca in Syria and throughout

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Speaker 1: most of Iraq, but that doesn't necessarily mean that stability

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Speaker 1: is automatically going to result. You know, there's there's still

466
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Speaker 1: going to be conflict in that region, and there's definitely

467
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Speaker 1: going to continue to be conflict throughout the world. You know,

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Speaker 1: the global war on terror. We tend to think of

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Speaker 1: it as a war in the desert, but it genuinely

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Speaker 1: is a global war on terror. You know, people people

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Speaker 1: talk about Africa now like as though it's this new thing.

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Speaker 1: I deployed to Africa in two thousand ten. You know,

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Speaker 1: we've been in Africa for a long time, and we'll

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Speaker 1: stay in Africa for a long time. To come. Anywhere

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Speaker 1: that there's poverty, there's the opportunity for influence, right and

476
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Speaker 1: in Africa, there's a lot of nations that are struggling

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Speaker 1: economically and they're willing to take support and just about

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Speaker 1: any form that it comes in, whether that comes from

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Speaker 1: you know, West friendly or United States or US allied nations,

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Speaker 1: or if it comes from terror groups that are willing

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Speaker 1: to come in and raise the standard of living for

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Speaker 1: the people that live there. Uh. You know, it's an

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Speaker 1: ongoing battle that we're seeing the start of. You know,

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Speaker 1: Africa is going to become an increasing area of emphasis

485
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Speaker 1: and you know in the years to come, but we're

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Speaker 1: not going to see a reduction in the operational tempo

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Speaker 1: for our special Operations forces anytime soon. Conventional forces, maybe

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Speaker 1: we might see a little bit of a downturn in

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Speaker 1: those rotations, but you know, special forces guy's green berets

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Speaker 1: and advisory roles, things like that. We're only gonna see

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Speaker 1: more and more and more of that as the years

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Speaker 1: go on. I really think, what was your experience like

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Speaker 1: in Africa? You know it was it was It was

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Speaker 1: a good time. It was a good time. It was rough.

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Speaker 1: For the first week, I'd say, I was part of

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Speaker 1: the advanced party that was supposed to prepare an area

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Speaker 1: for for a thousand marine force that was going to

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Speaker 1: show up a week later. And in that first week,

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Speaker 1: everything that could go wrong did go wrong. You know,

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Speaker 1: air drops were missed, our convoy that was supposed to

501
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: resupply us got into an accident and never came. We

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Speaker 1: ended up without food or water for you know, three days,

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Speaker 1: which at the time was awful, but in retrospect is

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Speaker 1: the story that you think you're gonna get when you

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Speaker 1: when you enlist in the Marine Corps, you know. But

506
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Speaker 1: it was a good opportunity for me to really get

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Speaker 1: to experience the difference between a military's culture and the

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Speaker 1: government that rules it. I was in Mozambique for the

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Speaker 1: most part, and the people that were serving in the

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Speaker 1: military and Mozambique really didn't I want to be there.

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Speaker 1: It was just the only avenue for them in a

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Speaker 1: lot of ways. And Mozambique is illegal to get a loan,

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Speaker 1: for instance, to buy a car or a house unless

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Speaker 1: you work for the government. So serving in the military

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Speaker 1: is like your direct route to a sustainable lifestyle, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you're not connected. And uh. It was a really

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Speaker 1: good learning experience for me, both in terms of what

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Speaker 1: I can handle, you know and uh, and in terms of,

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Speaker 1: you know, what the world's like out there. I was

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Speaker 1: at a ceremony where they sacrifice to go, you know,

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Speaker 1: ten minutes before I was meeting the u s Ambassador

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Speaker 1: to Mozambique inside like a gold plated you know room.

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Speaker 1: It was. It was surreal in a lot of ways,

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Speaker 1: but it really hit home for me the idea that

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Speaker 1: a lot of these people are living in desperation, and

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Speaker 1: when you're desperate, it doesn't really matter if it's a

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Speaker 1: bad guy offering you a hand. What you need is

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Speaker 1: that hand. And because of that, we're gonna see groups

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Speaker 1: like ICES and BOC OVERAM continue to expand their influence

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Speaker 1: in Africa, and we're gonna see US Special Operations troops

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Speaker 1: especially there uh to to advise, to help, to assist,

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Speaker 1: and probably to fight, you know, as as their spears

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Speaker 1: of influence grow. So keep the emails coming the soft

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Speaker 1: sounds like a crazy timeline of what you experience there. Um,

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Speaker 1: we have a lot of return customers for Harry's um

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Speaker 1: with that. I saw the pictures that you got to

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Speaker 1: sit down with Miles Teller and Jason Hall, the writer

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Speaker 1: and director of Thank You for Your Service, And the

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Speaker 1: thing that I laughed at, of course, where was that

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Speaker 1: they were all wearing college shirts. And someone in the

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Speaker 1: I didn't get a job as an internet writer to

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Speaker 1: was that whole experience like? Because I know for you,

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Speaker 1: you know, as you've talked about before, you're in Georgia,

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640
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: probably like a first of this type of opportunity for you, right,

641
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: you know, it really was, And I have to give

642
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: them a lot of credit the way it all came

643
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: about was. I went to a critic screening of Thank

644
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,239
Speaker 1: You for Your Service here a few months ago, and

645
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: I and you know, and I've been interacting with the

646
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: studio throughout because they really wanted to get a sense

647
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: of how I felt about the movie, to their credit,

648
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: you know. And so after I saw the movie, I

649
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: went home and I thought about it for a while,

650
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: and they emailed me to ask me what I thought

651
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: of it, and I didn't respond, and I waited like

652
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: a day before I finally sent them, like a pretty

653
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: long and thoughtful response about how I felt that it

654
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: was an important story to tell, but I had some

655
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: concerns about the way that it that I felt that

656
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: depicted veterans, and uh, I honestly expected their response to be, well,

657
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: then forget you, We'll just go with a different critic

658
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: that'll that'll just sing our praises, and instead they didn't. Uh.

659
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,959
Speaker 1: The studio got back to me and they said, we'd

660
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: really like you to have a chance to talk to

661
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: the people who made this movie to see if that

662
00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: they can, you know, address your concerns. And uh, you know,

663
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: they didn't put me into the press junket where I

664
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: was gonna sit with each of them for thirty seconds

665
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: to ask a few quick questions. They they actual scheduled,

666
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: they scheduled an entire separate interview where I got to

667
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 1: sit down with with Miles Teller, who stars in the movie.

668
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: You know, Jason Hall, who he wrote, uh this movie

669
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 1: as well as American Sniper. He wrote the screenplay for that,

670
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: but this was his directorial debut. And with with Adam Schuman,

671
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: who's you know, the guy that the story was really

672
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: based on. And uh, you know, so I got to

673
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: I got a chance to go meet with them in

674
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: the Ritz Carlton, even though I was not dressed for that,

675
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, and and sit across the table

676
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: from him and genuinely ask them, you know, all right,

677
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: so here are my concerns. What's your response? And uh,

678
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: and I have to say they had good, good responses,

679
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: you know. My my my concern with this movie. And

680
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: for those who haven't seen the trailer, thank you for

681
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: your service. As a movie about three soldiers who come

682
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 1: back from a deployment in Afghanistan and are really struggling

683
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: with post traumatic stress disorder, you know. And I don't

684
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: want to give too much away, Uh, you know, I

685
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: don't want I want to stay away from spoilers, but

686
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: suicide plays a recurring role in this movie, and that's

687
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 1: something that's really really important to me. I've I've lost

688
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 1: three marines that I served with to suicide over the years.

689
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: One of them I lost while he was under my

690
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: direct command. And uh, it's a real tough subject for me,

691
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 1: you know. So so this movie was important to me,

692
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: and I really wanted to know that they got it right,

693
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: you know. And so when I sat down with him

694
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: and I talked to them, you know, I told that

695
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: that and uh, and then I want this movie to

696
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: be to be well received. But I was concerned that

697
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: all of the veterans that showed in the movie were

698
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: either struggling or didn't care that others were struggling, you know.

699
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: And and I felt that that's that's not really fair

700
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: to the veteran community because we're really supportive of one another.

701
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: We do tend to eat our own if someone gets,

702
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 1: you know, a little bit of success, but when someone struggling,

703
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: we tend to to band together and help them out.

704
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: And uh, I gotta give Jason Hall a lot of credit.

705
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 1: He could have taken offense to my line of questioning

706
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: and instead was like, you know, it was an intentional

707
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: decision basically because Adam Schuman, you know, the real sergeant

708
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: that this is based on, really did feel that isolated.

709
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 1: He really did feel as though there wasn't help that

710
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: was forthcoming, and they needed to find a way to

711
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 1: convey that on the screen. And to be honest with you,

712
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: that's the best response he could have given me. You know,

713
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: it really did just you know, assuage some of my

714
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: concerns because I'm always is worried about people perceiving veterans

715
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: as like, you know, a John Rambo style. You know,

716
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 1: I'm about to fly off the handle at any moment,

717
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: when in reality, veterans really aren't like that by and large.

718
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: But but in the case of this movie, I get it.

719
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: You know, it makes sense and uh and and it's

720
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: an important story, it really is. So overall, did did

721
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 1: you like it? Minus? You know, your concern which seems

722
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: like it was alleviated by their response of their intentions.

723
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's it's a solid movie. It's not

724
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: the best movie I've ever seen. I don't wanna to

725
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: make it seems seem as though it's you know, it's

726
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: the best movie out there. But it's a good movie,

727
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: but it's a tough one to watch, you know. I've

728
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: been to this was my only time interviewing you know,

729
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 1: Hollywood types, but I've been to a number of critics

730
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: screenings before, and usually, you know, go into a critic screening,

731
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: it is weird because you go to the movies by

732
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 1: yourself in the middle of the day, you know, and

733
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: you're surrounded by other adults that are there by themselves

734
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: watching this movie in the middle of the day. So

735
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,720
Speaker 1: when the movie end, you know, it's not that weird

736
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: for some conversation to break out, you know, just kind

737
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: of like get a feel for what the other people thought.

738
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: And I couldn't do it, man, I I got up

739
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 1: as soon as the credits started rolling. I was getting

740
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: the hell out of there because I was upset. You know.

741
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: It's it's really hard to watch a struggle that you've

742
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: seen firsthand, uh depicted on screen, you know. And they

743
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: did a really good job of showing that struggle on

744
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 1: some level, because I mean, a good movie is supposed

745
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: to make you feel something, and it obviously did make

746
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: you feel something. It's funny you say that. I wrote

747
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: my review for the movie just a little bit before

748
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: we came on the air. And that's exactly what I said.

749
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 1: You know, Jason Hall set out to you know, elicit

750
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: an emotional response in his audience, and this movie will

751
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: do it. Man, And uh for the people out there

752
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: who have never had to go sit in a v

753
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,280
Speaker 1: A for six hours, you know, or have never struggled

754
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 1: to try to find a way to get help, I

755
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: think that this movie is going to shine a light

756
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: on that, you know, very real struggle that a lot

757
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,399
Speaker 1: of veterans are experiencing that a lot of people are

758
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 1: ignorant to not because they don't care, but just because

759
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 1: why would you ever walk into a v A waiting

760
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: room unless you needed to? You know, I don't say

761
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: I appreciate the fact that you know, you met these

762
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: guys and and from what you're saying, they were a

763
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: couple of great dudes, and you're still not, um gonna

764
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: go out there and say it was the greatest movie

765
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,720
Speaker 1: I ever saw, just based off that, like it shows

766
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: that you you're you have that journalistic integrity well you know,

767
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: and to be honest, I I was struggling with the

768
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 1: idea of asking them tough questions about its depiction of veterans,

769
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 1: and I'm glad that I chose to do it because

770
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: they gave me such good answers. But you know, at

771
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: the end of the day, this very well could be

772
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: somebody's favorite movie out there. It just it wasn't mine.

773
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: You know. It was a very well put together movie.

774
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: The acting was really solid for the most part, but

775
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: you know, there were a couple of little things here

776
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: and there that just kinda that they could suck you

777
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: out of the movie a little bit. Uh maybe just

778
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: maybe just because I'm a veteran. I don't know, but

779
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 1: I would argue that it is a really good movie.

780
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: But more than that, it's a really important movie. You know,

781
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna give it three and a half out

782
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: of five stars, which for me is is is a

783
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: pretty pretty solid score. Uh. But more more important than

784
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: the quality of the filmmaking or whether or not he

785
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: used Dutch angles appropriately, uh, which to be honest, I

786
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: don't think he used any Uh. What really matters is

787
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: that this story needs to get out there. And uh,

788
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,280
Speaker 1: Derek Gannon actually was the guy who kind of planted

789
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: the seed of that idea in my head. He's another

790
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: writer on Soft rep who's done some amazing work, especially

791
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 1: with Africa recently. But we were talking about a different movie, uh,

792
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: twelve Strong. I think it's what it's called. It's about

793
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: the first Green Berets that crossed into Afghanistan. And you know,

794
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of drama right now about how

795
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: involved the real guys who did it were in the

796
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: filmmaking process. And Derek told me he's like, part of

797
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: me kind of just wants this movie to get made

798
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: because the story deserves to be told, even if they

799
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: don't quite get it right. Yeah, And and there's a

800
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: lot of truth to that. And I feel that same

801
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: way about Thank You for Your Service. Not everything about

802
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 1: the movie rang true for me. Maybe it would for others,

803
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: you know, but it's more important to me that that story,

804
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: that idea of the struggle gets told and gets told

805
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: in a way that's creative enough that it really does

806
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,399
Speaker 1: pull that emotion out of you. I I give Jason Hall,

807
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: the director of the movie, more credit for yanking that

808
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: emotion out of me than I do for you know,

809
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 1: getting the tidbits right about military service or the way

810
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: that you would interact with one another, and you know,

811
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 1: things like that you know, do you worry I will

812
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 1: say it's well worth watching. Okay, do you worry it

813
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 1: all that the whole veteran movie thing is getting overexposed,

814
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: or or that that's just getting deluded by all these

815
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: movies coming now, because you know, you got American Sniper

816
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: and Lone Survivor and then movies like this, which are

817
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: different types of movies, but it's it's a lot of

818
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: them at once. I even think about, you know, like

819
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 1: for this audience, the amount of books that come out.

820
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 1: You know, I'm staring at the books in the office,

821
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 1: whether it's Chris Bernto's book or um, you know, the

822
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: many books that Brandon's put out, or even the fiction

823
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: books like Brad Thor who does the military fiction books.

824
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: For this audience, I already know that you guys can't

825
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 1: get enough of it, and which is great, But I'm

826
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: thinking for a general audience, do you think like the

827
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: veteran movie and the veteran book is becoming too deluded

828
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: because there's just too much out there. And I'm thinking

829
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: about this, like I said, from an objective standpoint, not

830
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: from you guys who are necessarily like the die hards

831
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 1: who want to read every single book that comes out

832
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: because I I realized that the people who listen to

833
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: the show are not necessarily the mainstream audience who wants

834
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: to see the occasional veteran story. You know. When I

835
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: went I went to grad school for communications with an

836
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: emphasis on marketing and advertising, and market saturation is one

837
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,240
Speaker 1: of the things that you always have to worry about,

838
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: whether you're pushing out a new brand or you're pushing

839
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,719
Speaker 1: out a new marketing campaign for an old brand. You know,

840
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: and the military has rapidly become a brand of sorts,

841
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: you know, especially when it comes to books and movies.

842
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: I'm not as concerned about the market getting saturated with

843
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: it quite yet, because most of the military movies have

844
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: not been a big budget movies, you know, a lot

845
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: of them have been independent or close to it. Uh.

846
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: But my concern is more about the facets of the

847
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,720
Speaker 1: veteran community that are always highlighted in a lot of

848
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: these movies. You know, Thank You for Your Service is

849
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: an important film because it talks about that struggle, but

850
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: it's you know, I also reviewed Megan Leavy you know

851
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: a few months back. Uh, similarly, that movie It's not

852
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: it's not a war movie. You know, it's a it's

853
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: a movie about the struggle of a war fighter after

854
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,360
Speaker 1: they come home, and I do think that that story

855
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: is important, But I worry sometimes when the only depictions

856
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: of the military that the general public gets is either

857
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 1: American sniper or thank you for your Service. Where we're

858
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: showing either our war fighters out there just you know,

859
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 1: doing you know, accomplishing heroic feats, uh, and then coming

860
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 1: home and just being a complete mess as a result

861
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: of the of that heroism. And I think the reality

862
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 1: of the veteran experience for most kind of lies somewhere

863
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: in between. You know, Uh, for everyone, Chris Kyle you

864
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 1: have out there, You've got ninety nine you know, soldiers, sailors,

865
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: marines that are that are doing a much less dramatic

866
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: and sexy job, you know, but still come home and

867
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: still face struggles. But those struggles are often not the

868
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 1: same as you'll find and thank you for your service

869
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: where you know, in one scene, one of the soldiers

870
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 1: who's I'm trying to remember his name, it's tough to pronounce.

871
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: It's like a EDI or something like that. Uh, you know,

872
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: his wife burns dinner and uh, and he has kind

873
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: of a PTSD flashback to one of his friends burning

874
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: a lot i've and loses his mind and smashes up

875
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: the house and his wife has to you know, she's pregnant,

876
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: has to lock herself into the bathroom and call nine

877
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 1: one one. And that, in my opinion, isn't veterans either,

878
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: you know. And I worry that your general public is

879
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: going to start to see every veteran as Chris Kyle,

880
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: or or a guy who's done some of the same

881
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 1: things that Chris Kyle did but might be set off

882
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: by the smell of burning toast. Uh, when a lot

883
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: of veterans are really well adjusted guys. You know, branded

884
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: webs a great example of a dude who got out

885
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 1: and started uh, you know, a huge company, h leveraging

886
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: his veteran experience. I you know, I'd like to see

887
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: more depictions of veterans as regular dudes. I know that

888
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: might not necessarily make the sexiest movie, but but I

889
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: worry about the perception that people like my daughter will

890
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: grow up with when the only exposure they'll have to

891
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: my military service is through movies like that. You know, well,

892
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 1: you know what I would for your daughter. It'll be

893
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: different because you're gonna have so many veteran friends that

894
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 1: you'll probably meet, I would think, Um, but but I

895
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: agree with that you're saying, because I think there's so

896
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: many people in the country. Um. You know, I have

897
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: plenty of veteran friends, even before this podcast, but especially

898
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: through this podcast that you know, I know that they

899
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: are regular dudes. But of course there's like the guy

900
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: who lives I don't know where, but who doesn't have

901
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: one veteran friend. And you're right there only perspective on

902
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: what the veteran experiences is what Hollywood puts out. Yeah,

903
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: and like I said with with thank you for your service,

904
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 1: veteran suicide is obviously a very real and legitimate concern.

905
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 1: You know. I know that the statistic isn't technically twenty

906
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: two veterans a day. It's like twenty one and change.

907
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 1: But to me, that's that's semantics. The truth of the

908
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: matter is veterans are killing themselves. The thing is is

909
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: that depression, at least in my experience, U doesn't usually

910
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: manifest itself in violent ways. You know, I think that

911
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: your average depressed or PTSD stricken veterans experience is more

912
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 1: quiet drinking in a basement than it is punching through

913
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: walls and doors and scaring your family. And so it's

914
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: good that we're we're shifting towards the idea that veterans

915
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,919
Speaker 1: are struggling and do deserve help. But I think it's

916
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: just as important that we focus on the fact that

917
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 1: those struggles are not necessarily a reason to not hire them.

918
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,240
Speaker 1: You know, it's not a reason to be worried about

919
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: one dating your daughter. But they may have struggles, but

920
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: just be aware that usually they manifest themselves in more

921
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 1: benign ways, I guess true. And and what you're saying

922
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: also reminds me that I got to see Big Bountain Heroes,

923
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 1: the documentary that we did and we're putting out soon. Um,

924
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: you know that Nick k. Hill helped film and that

925
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: stars Brandon Webb and we A Jenkins and Nick Betts

926
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: and all those guys, and it it is exactly what

927
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,760
Speaker 1: you're looking for in a veteran film of just showing,

928
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: you know, the whole idea of the tagline being thrills

929
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: before pills, and these these guys going out and doing

930
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 1: regular guy things skiing and snowboarding, these alps in Europe

931
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: that are just beautiful and enjoying their time and and

932
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 1: saying like, hey, this is how we're getting a stress

933
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: out rather than going to the v A and and

934
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: taking these pills that could be deadly. Yeah, you know,

935
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: the the opioid epidemic in this country is for real.

936
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: And I can speak from personal experience. On my way

937
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: out of the Marine Corps, I had six surgeries in

938
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: two years, man, you know, and throughout that time, you know,

939
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 1: I had a steady and refillable prescription to vike it

940
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,799
Speaker 1: in and then percocet and then whatever else because you know,

941
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: maybe this one was upsetting my stomach, so instead of

942
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: pulling me off of it, we would just switch to

943
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: a different one, you know. And on top of that,

944
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 1: lots of anti anxiety meds, you know, Zanax and valium,

945
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 1: and they were they were eager to give me whatever

946
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 1: I felt like I needed to get through the day.

947
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 1: And I and I can understand and appreciate it, but

948
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 1: it ended up being, uh, it ended up causing some

949
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: some trouble for me. I'm fortunate that I always had

950
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 1: a really good support structure. My wife is an incredible woman,

951
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: you know. And uh, when it came to the point

952
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: that I was drinking too much and I was taking

953
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: these pills. Uh, not necessarily because I was hurting, but

954
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: because I was trying to make sure I didn't start hurting,

955
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 1: you know. And I I didn't even really need her

956
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,240
Speaker 1: to tell me I needed to stop. I just needed

957
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 1: her to give me that look a couple of times,

958
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: you know, that concerned you know, you know, the worried

959
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: wife look, and uh, and it made me go, oh shit,

960
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: you know, I really instead of just doing this on autopilot,

961
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: I should start playing an active role in deciding how

962
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 1: I self medicate, you know. And I'm not going to

963
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 1: tell you that I no longer self medicate. I drank

964
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: like an active duty moraine, which is too much. Uh.

965
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: But uh, I try my best to to keep my

966
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: eyes on the horizon now, you know. And A but

967
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: I can see how easy it would be to have

968
00:49:56,880 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: lost sight of it. And a lot of people do

969
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: most of that stuff. Say again, how did you get

970
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: off most of that stuff? You know? To be honest,

971
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 1: it's easy. It was easy for me in a in

972
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 1: a couple of ways. I'm like the same thing with

973
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: my fitness game and stuff like that. I'm I'm all

974
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: about self discipline, except like at midnight, right around midnight

975
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: is when my discipline goes out the window. And I

976
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: just started like powering the cookies down and washing it

977
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: down with vodka. And and it does help that we

978
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: have a job that we could work on our own schedule,

979
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: Like there's no you have to be up at six

980
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: am with this job, absolutely, you know. And uh, but

981
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: for me, what it really came down to was, at

982
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 1: first I stopped with the pain killers, but uh, I

983
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: realized that I needed to stick with the antidepressants. To

984
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: be honest with you, I've I've come on and off

985
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 1: of them over the years, but you know, just the

986
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: combination of losing friends and then lots of surgeries and

987
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: I was medically retired from the Marine Corps, so it

988
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: wasn't really my choice, and I struggled with that for

989
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 1: a while. I'm just I'm better, I'm more level as

990
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: long as I stay on some of these medications. But

991
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: for the most part now I try to avoid the

992
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: strong painkillers if at all possible, you know, I'm I'll

993
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: just keep loading up on motoring and laying on the

994
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,240
Speaker 1: couch until my knee works again if if I can. Yeah,

995
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: And I think the fact that you're physically active it

996
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: plays a huge role in in you recuperating from certain things,

997
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,280
Speaker 1: which we should get to your old man fitness calm,

998
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: which I'm wondering, like, is is the title like a

999
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: little bit tongue in cheek because from what I know,

1000
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 1: I don't know your exact age. But aren't you along

1001
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: with me like one of the younger guys at the site. Yeah,

1002
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: I'm not that old man. I'm only thirty two, but

1003
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,680
Speaker 1: we're like the two youngest guys at the site. Probably

1004
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: I mean other than Nick when I say old man fitness,

1005
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 1: though I don't necessarily mean how old I am in years.

1006
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: It's more a concern of mileage and also post post

1007
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: service fitness, I guess, but it is just kind of

1008
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: But I think old man fitness, I think of you know,

1009
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: maybe a guy like Jane Fordsworth. You're just swiped a voicemail, like,

1010
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: I know, he's an older dude. You know what, the

1011
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: I bet you that guy could kick my ass. So

1012
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's good that I I need to focus

1013
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: my workouts in a way that that allows for you know,

1014
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: I've got a lot of the same injuries that an

1015
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 1: older guy would have. You know, I had I had

1016
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: two surgeries on one d one on the other, two

1017
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 1: surgeries on one of my ankles. I've got a metal

1018
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: screen on that replaced a portion of my abdominal wall.

1019
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: I've got a couple of slip discs in my back,

1020
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 1: you know, I've got I've got, you know, the laundry

1021
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: list of injuries that you'd find in your average, you know,

1022
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: fifty year old. I just got there sooner, you know.

1023
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: And uh, I doesn't help. Again, I'm saying the blindness

1024
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: thing doesn't help, and all that as well, I mean,

1025
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: you you know, but because of that, I stopped working

1026
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: out for a little while, you know, and I gettined

1027
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: a bunch of weight, and I felt real bad about myself.

1028
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: And uh, and I realized that just because I can't

1029
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: work out the way I used to doesn't necessarily mean

1030
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: that I can't out. You know. I used to work

1031
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,439
Speaker 1: out like it was a fight. I wanted. I wanted

1032
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: to go win a fight against the weights, you know.

1033
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: And and now I have to work together with the

1034
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: you know, I've got a just my form and certain

1035
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: lifts to make sure I don't aggravate back injuries. I

1036
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: have to, you know, shift the way I do squats

1037
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: to make sure that I don't mess with my knees,

1038
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,799
Speaker 1: you know, things like that, and uh, but it was

1039
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 1: at all really started because of the common marketing trope

1040
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: that you see all over the internet with here's how

1041
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: to lose all your extra weight in ten days, or

1042
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: this magic pill will get you that six pack that

1043
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 1: you wanted. You know, this new workout plan is the

1044
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 1: only one that can help you achieve your goals, and

1045
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: it's just not true. Man, your average person's goals are

1046
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: not to look like the fitness model on the cover

1047
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: of Bodybuilding, you know magazine. Your average person's fitness goals

1048
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: or to make sure that the stomach doesn't stick out

1049
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,839
Speaker 1: further than their chest. You know, it's to make sure

1050
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: that they could win a fight if they had to,

1051
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: you know, Or to make sure that they could walk

1052
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 1: three miles to a gas station if they needed to

1053
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: if their car ran out of ask. You know, those

1054
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 1: are realistic fitness goals that a lot of us might

1055
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,760
Speaker 1: not be in a position to achieve, but that should

1056
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: be what we're striving for. And you know, once you

1057
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,240
Speaker 1: get there, if you want to make you know, higher,

1058
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: more difficult goals, maybe you want to compete in a

1059
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: five k or run a whole marathon. But but you

1060
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: have to approach it in a realistic fashion. You're not

1061
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: gonna lose forty pounds in a week, you know, no

1062
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,279
Speaker 1: matter how crash the diet is. And when you do

1063
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,959
Speaker 1: a crash diet like that, you often end up gaining

1064
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: the weight right back as soon as you're off of it,

1065
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: because you didn't adjust your lifestyle at all. You just

1066
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: stopped eating for a week, you know. So what I

1067
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: really wanted to try to do is start shining a

1068
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: light on regular person fitness. You know. The idea that

1069
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: you can lose weight just by burning more calories than

1070
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: you take in, you know, is it is something that's

1071
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 1: lost to a lot of people because we think that

1072
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: you need nutral system or weight watchers or slim fast

1073
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: you know, when in reality, just be mindful of of

1074
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: what calories you drin. For instance, you know, we drink

1075
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: tons and tons of calories all the day, Lord knows

1076
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,720
Speaker 1: I do, usually in the form of potato based booze.

1077
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: But you know, but like my most recent article was

1078
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,560
Speaker 1: about cheating in the gym, you know, because when you

1079
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: when you've been working out for as long as I have,

1080
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: you've played every role. You've been that young, new guy

1081
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 1: who thinks you know everything and you want to impart

1082
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: wisdom on other strangers. You know, you've been that big

1083
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 1: guy that people ask for advice, and then you've also

1084
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: been that old guy that people try to correct you

1085
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,280
Speaker 1: when you're rocking your hips a bit when you're doing curls,

1086
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 1: and the reality of it is, I'm all about cheating, man.

1087
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: And like if I if I'm aiming for ten reps

1088
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: on this lift and I'm failing at seven as I

1089
00:55:41,239 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 1: should be on my last set, you know, I'll rock

1090
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 1: my hips a little bit and get to get that

1091
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 1: curl up because that's better than not doing it. If

1092
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 1: you're competing, that's not that's not true. When you're doing squats,

1093
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 1: you need to make sure you maintain good forms so

1094
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: you don't get hurt. But there are times when it's

1095
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 1: okay to cheat a little bit. You know, just like

1096
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: with the diet, give yourself a slice of cake every

1097
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 1: once in a while, otherwise you're gonna say, funk it

1098
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,839
Speaker 1: need a whole cake events when you're when you're working out,

1099
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 1: give yourself an allowance to screw up a little bit

1100
00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: here and there to help get yourself stronger. You know,

1101
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 1: very true, man. You know it's funny. I was looking

1102
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: at the comments from our subscribers on the articles, and

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00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: I was I was actually surprised to see a pretty

1104
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: considerable amount of female readers who were digging these articles.

1105
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,320
Speaker 1: You know, I'm really glad to see it too, because

1106
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 1: one of the biggest myths in the fitness industry is

1107
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: that women shouldn't lift weights. Uh. You know that women

1108
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: worry about getting bulky and muscular. You know that angular

1109
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 1: look that men aspire for. You know, women tend to

1110
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: want to avoid. But it's just not the case man.

1111
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 1: Lifting weights as a woman can really help improve your

1112
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 1: overall fitness. It's not gonna make you look manly. It

1113
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: takes a whole lot of work and a whole lot

1114
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: of testosterone to become a big guy, you know. Uh.

1115
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: And women might put in a whole lot of work,

1116
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 1: but genetically, hormonally, they're not going to be as prone

1117
00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: to muscle development as a man would be. So if

1118
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 1: you and I sit here and work out the same

1119
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 1: amount of time, me and a woman, but she's not

1120
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,439
Speaker 1: gonna bench for us three fifty pounds, uh, Like I am.

1121
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: When when all of a sudden and done. It's gonna

1122
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,760
Speaker 1: take more for her to get there. Instead, what lifting

1123
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 1: weights will do for a woman is it will improve

1124
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 1: her overall fitness. It will make her physically stronger, it

1125
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 1: might improve in durance depending on how you lift, and

1126
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: it'll make you overall healthier. You know. But but our

1127
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: our aesthetic concerns or what always stopped us. You know,

1128
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: women don't want to get bulky, men want to get bulkier,

1129
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: you know, so we tend to have men will avoid

1130
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: cardio and women will avoid the weights. And we all

1131
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 1: need to be doing all of it. You know. If

1132
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: you go to uh the gym I go to. I

1133
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: go to a UFC gym, which I love. It's like seven.

1134
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: I will tell you, Alex, there are a ton of

1135
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 1: like hot chicks lifting weights constantly that fit like that.

1136
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: I G fitness model type. I love it. I'm yeah,

1137
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: I'm telling you I've got a lot of good friends that, uh,

1138
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: that are big in the fitness world. I used to

1139
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 1: work as a personal trainer for a little while, you know,

1140
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: thirty pounds ago, and uh, I've got a lot of

1141
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: friends that stuck with it, you know, and now, especially

1142
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: female marines who do figure competitions and stuff. And uh,

1143
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, man, when when these girls are prepping

1144
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 1: for for a competition and they're posting pictures up on Facebook,

1145
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: no one's thinking, oh, that girl's got too many muscles. No,

1146
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: you know, everything you're saying is true. The thing that

1147
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: I think is always like the telltale thing is if

1148
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: a woman has like what you would describe as those

1149
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: pumpkin debts, then she's probably on some type of year.

1150
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: That's fair. That's fair. And when it comes to working

1151
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: on dirty you know, it's I'll say this, I am

1152
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 1: not gonna criticize anybody for using steroids. Lord knows, if

1153
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: I had ever had an opportunity when I was younger,

1154
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: I probably would have jumped at it, just because I

1155
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: was always an athlete and they weren't testing you for

1156
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: steroids when you played football for the Marine Corps and stuff.

1157
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: Probably would have might a much better player. But uh,

1158
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 1: you know, on the long term, on the long timeline,

1159
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: you want to avoid you know, the gear and the

1160
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: reason is in my opinion, and I learned this from

1161
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: a master sargeant a long time ago. He's a master

1162
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: guns now. He was like, if you start taking steroids

1163
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: in high school. Uh, you're gonna bottom out in college.

1164
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: And if you start taking them in college, you're gonna

1165
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: bottom out after college. Whenever you start taking steroids is

1166
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: when you start the end of your fitness career, you know,

1167
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:28,919
Speaker 1: because eventually you're gonna have to cycle off of them.

1168
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 1: You know, you might not be able to afford to

1169
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 1: cycle back on. It's gonna be a lot harder to

1170
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 1: maintain the gains that you got, you know, when you

1171
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 1: were working out dirty. Uh. You know, aside from the

1172
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: there's a litany of medical problems that could follow, but

1173
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: there's a lot of them that won't you know, if

1174
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 1: you if you pay enough for the stuff. Uh, it's

1175
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: usually pretty safe. But but what you're basically doing is

1176
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 1: you're admitting that you're done after this. In my opinion,

1177
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure that there are listeners out there

1178
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: who might be all about the juice and and will disagree,

1179
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: but I I genuinely think that when you decide to

1180
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: resort to that, it means that you think you're on

1181
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: the tail end of your fitness career, you know, and

1182
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 1: it's becoming more though. You know, it's there's a lot

1183
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: of guys who are starting to like pick up steroids

1184
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: immediately when they start going to the gym, which is

1185
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: not a good move. But I do think a lot

1186
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: of it is because the instagram man. Dude, I'm telling well,

1187
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 1: the modern idea of what the male body is supposed

1188
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 1: to look like. I mean, if go back and watch

1189
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 1: that first X Men movie that came out in like

1190
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 1: two thousand, you know, and look at Hugh Jackman running

1191
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: around the X Mansion with a shirt off, and he

1192
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: just looks like a dude. He looks like your dad,

1193
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 1: you know, He's like just like a regular guy with

1194
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: a hairy chest and a dumb hair cut. And then

1195
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: you fast forward sixteen years the dudes in his like

1196
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: mid to late forties now and he is cock diesel. Yeah,

1197
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 1: you know, he's zero percent body fat, probably weighs two

1198
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,439
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty pounds of straight muscle. And that's that's

1199
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 1: how we've shifted the idea of what the male form

1200
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: is supposed to look like. And just the last twenty

1201
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: years or so, you know, And so when you're a

1202
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: young guy, I can see. I mean, and I was

1203
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 1: a young guy, I had every supplement that you could

1204
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: imagine that you could buy at the g n C

1205
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: on Base I had in my locker, you know, and

1206
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: some of them I felt like work. Some of them

1207
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: didn't work. But it was important to me that I

1208
01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: had that six pack and well. And once I started

1209
01:01:15,880 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: fighting and I was cutting weight, it became even more

1210
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: important to me that I was losing weight. But the

1211
01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 1: idea that we have that men have to have, you know,

1212
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 1: three percent body fed or less. Uh, and they need

1213
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: to be able to bench press four hundred pounds just

1214
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: to look like a dude. You know, it's it's gonna

1215
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 1: increase the need for for people or the desire i'd

1216
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 1: say for people don't want to do steroids. But I'm

1217
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: telling you guys out there. I was asked the other

1218
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: day by this dude who mows my lawn, and he

1219
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 1: was like, man, you know, you're a real big guy.

1220
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,439
Speaker 1: How did you get that big? And Uh, if those

1221
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: of you who saw my old man fitness articles you

1222
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 1: saw when I was twenty two, I wait a hundred

1223
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: and fifty five pounds, you know, and I wait two

1224
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty five pounds. Now, granted some of that

1225
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: is potato chips, but uh, you know, when he's like

1226
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: you you must work out all the time. And I

1227
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: was like, it's not so much that I work out

1228
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 1: all day, it's that I work out every day and

1229
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: I have for ten years. You know. I I definitely

1230
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 1: took time off obviously. I've taken months off here and

1231
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 1: there for injury or just because I was in the slump.

1232
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 1: You know, we all we all fall off sometimes, but

1233
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: more or less consistently. I've been at it since, you know,

1234
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: two thousand and six, when I first enlisted. And that's

1235
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: what it really takes to be a big guy on

1236
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 1: the day to day basis without doing steroids and stuff.

1237
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:37,800
Speaker 1: Is commitment, you know, And this this job makes it

1238
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: so that, you know, you could you could get those

1239
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 1: workouts in which I love and and like our copy

1240
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 1: editor Christian, who's also a former marine, I know he's

1241
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 1: always working out and and yeah, it gives you the

1242
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: freedom and the less excuses to not get it in

1243
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 1: that day. I would say a dozen, that doesn't you know.

1244
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 1: I write four articles a day, which means I am

1245
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 1: at my desk, you know, but twelve fourteen hours a

1246
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 1: day easily, but I get to dictate when those twelves

1247
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 1: and fourteen hours live. I Uh, like my older brother

1248
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 1: you know who's uh works in the racing industry. He

1249
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 1: works out a lot as well. He played U division

1250
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: to college football, used to be a kickboxer and uh,

1251
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 1: you know, and he's still he's still at it, and

1252
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: he's thirty five, and he's working out hard. And but

1253
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:23,960
Speaker 1: he and I both complained to each other all the

1254
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 1: time about not having time to get our workouts in.

1255
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: But that's not really the case. Even if you're a

1256
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 1: real busy person, you know, and and I'm a real

1257
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: busy person, as is he. If you treat your workouts

1258
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 1: like a commitment that you made to someone else, it's

1259
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 1: a lot easier to fit them in. You know. When Ian,

1260
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 1: when you called me and you're like, hey, man, you

1261
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 1: know we want to have you on the show, I

1262
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 1: was like, great, what time? He said one o'clock, And

1263
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, So at one o'clock I'm committed.

1264
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not gonna do something else during that

1265
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 1: window of time. It's it's a it's a commitment that

1266
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: I've made the same way. When you and I get

1267
01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 1: off the phone, I'm gonna head down to my basement

1268
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna work out for an hour because I

1269
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: made a commitment to do that as well. And if

1270
01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 1: I don't think of it as a thing I'm doing

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Speaker 1: for me. But if I think of it instead as

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Speaker 1: a requirement I need to fulfill, it's a lot easier

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Speaker 1: not to skip it, you know what I mean. That's

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Speaker 1: why a lot of people get personal trainers to more

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Speaker 1: than anything, is that they they have to make that commitment. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's it gives you, like this social responsibility

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Speaker 1: to maintain. Honestly, that's a great thing about social media.

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Speaker 1: I know everybody likes to pick on the people who

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Speaker 1: post jim selfies. I'm a fan of Jim selfies. Man,

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Speaker 1: if taken a selfie at the gym when you go

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Speaker 1: is enough to make you feel good about having gone,

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Speaker 1: do it, man, post that gym selfie, throw on Instagram

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Speaker 1: filter on it to make you look bigger or skinnier

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Speaker 1: or leaner, or whatever it is that you want to do,

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Speaker 1: so that you can feel good about what you did

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Speaker 1: and come back and do it again tomorrow. You know,

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Speaker 1: make sure you actually got a workout in and that

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Speaker 1: you're not just doing a photo section. Yeah, that's fair

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Speaker 1: And the big reason why I've got a weight bench

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Speaker 1: in my basement. There's a gym right down the street

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Speaker 1: I used to work out at all the time. I'm

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Speaker 1: not a social lifter. I'm an angry, quiet, blasting music lifter.

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Speaker 1: I'm furious at the weights. I'm trying to get through

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Speaker 1: this workout because I'm mad at it and I'm mad

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Speaker 1: at me for hurting. And when it's all said it done,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's a cathartic experience. I feel better, you know.

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Speaker 1: I go and late on the floor for a while

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Speaker 1: and feel accomplished. So I like to work out by myself.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, if you want to take some time to

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Speaker 1: pop a quick selfie public quick selfie, man. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you go to the gym to have a conversation

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Speaker 1: by the bench and then take turns to taking selfies,

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Speaker 1: we're not friends, you know, Like fair enough man, Um, Well,

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Speaker 1: you're also working on an upcoming story on c i

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Speaker 1: A Archives, and I wanted to hear all about that.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, the CIA is an awesome They've got an

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Speaker 1: awesome website. You know. I spend so much time on

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Speaker 1: government websites that are dry because they have to be

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Speaker 1: you know, uh dry, tough to navigate. Sometimes it's as

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Speaker 1: though that they don't expect an audience to actually come

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Speaker 1: to the website. They've prepared them all for an auditor

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Speaker 1: to come in and check out to make sure that

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Speaker 1: they hit the wickets. The CIA, on the other hand,

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Speaker 1: has a really fun website, especially if you go digging

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Speaker 1: through their Freedom of Information request archives. Everything that someone

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Speaker 1: has requested through a full they leave posted in this database.

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Speaker 1: And you can find stuff about flying saucers. You can

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Speaker 1: find stuff about kgb uh, you know, influenced campaigns. You

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Speaker 1: can find magazines that, for some reason they felt as

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Speaker 1: though they needed to save and classify. A couple of

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Speaker 1: months back, I found an entire study that they did

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Speaker 1: about EESP where the doctor who actually conducted the study

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Speaker 1: concluded at the end of it that she believed that

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Speaker 1: psychic powers were legitimate and could be weaponized. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's crazy stuff in there. Uh, and the story that

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Speaker 1: you're talking about. I recently found a declassified which means

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Speaker 1: it was once classified list of jokes about the Soviet

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Speaker 1: Union that the CIA had prepared one of its deputy

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Speaker 1: directors on I. I don't know the story behind it,

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Speaker 1: because all you get is, uh, you know, here's a

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Speaker 1: declassified document that you can see the scanned PDF of

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Speaker 1: the jokes aren't very good, um, but it's about two

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Speaker 1: pages of jokes that somebody had to sit there and write.

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Speaker 1: I guess that the deputy director of the CIA would

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Speaker 1: have some good jokes to crack at, you know, public

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Speaker 1: functions or during speeches or some of them are are

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01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 1: a little they're not off color, but they they insinuate

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Speaker 1: wanting to assassinate Soviet leaders. So I don't know if

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Speaker 1: they would have been used in mixed company. But it's

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01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 1: that you can find the weirdest stuff on there. Man.

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Speaker 1: It's great interesting, all right. And then also I saw

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Speaker 1: that we got a tweet when you said you were

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Speaker 1: coming on um on the topic of declassified stuff. Um,

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Speaker 1: I guess, just really quick your feelings on the JFK

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01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 1: files being declassified and coming out there, which my dad

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01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 1: is a huge history buff for the JFK assassination stuff,

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01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 1: and he clarified to me that this was going to

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Speaker 1: come out anyway. Of course, Trump could have stopped it,

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Speaker 1: but this wasn't you know, a Trump idea, As it's

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Speaker 1: kind of being put out there. As you're a correct

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01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:12,800
Speaker 1: it was established that this was the year that all

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01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: the information would be released decades ago. But you're right,

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01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 1: Donald Trump feasibly could have made the decision to UH

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Speaker 1: to bar its release. And he did say on Twitter

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Speaker 1: when he talked about it, he was like, you know,

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Speaker 1: appending a review of more information or something along those lines.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna let it be released. Honestly, I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: one thing. Those documents will be released and will show

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Speaker 1: nothing the conspiracy theorists will be excited about, because if

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Speaker 1: they would, they wouldn't be released. You know, It's it's

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01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: as simple as that the government is not going to

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Speaker 1: set a time frame to declassify the fact that the

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Speaker 1: CIA assassinated JFK. They could also knock out certain parts still, right, well, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: they could absolutely redact him just like that got released.

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Speaker 1: Know they were still certain stuff blacked out. You know

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Speaker 1: when I when I was working at I and I,

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01:09:06,320 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 1: which is Inspector Instructor Training, I was training reservists for

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Speaker 1: twenty marines and we would have audits, you know, where

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Speaker 1: the headquarters Marine Corps would send marines in to look

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Speaker 1: at everything that we did and make sure that we

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01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,439
Speaker 1: were doing things right. And you know, I was really

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Speaker 1: good at audits because I had this understanding that they're

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01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 1: only going to dig into what you present to them

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01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 1: to dig into. You know. So if they're gonna come

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01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 1: and they're gonna dig, they're gonna look through twenty of

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01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 1: our files on this because they want to make sure

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01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 1: we're doing this right. I'm gonna make sure that we've

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01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 1: got twenty perfect files, you know, and I'm gonna make

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Speaker 1: sure that I've got good answers for any questions that

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Speaker 1: they have. The CIA is not dumber than me, you know,

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Speaker 1: They're they're not going to They're going to present us

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01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 1: with the information that we need to be presented when

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01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:54,599
Speaker 1: we need to be presented it. But they're not going

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01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 1: to hand us a smoking gun and say not that

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01:09:57,479 --> 01:10:00,200
Speaker 1: the CIA was involved with the JFK assassination. Want to

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01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 1: clarify that, but there if they were, they wouldn't go, oh,

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01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,680
Speaker 1: well by, it should be cool for us to let

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01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 1: everybody know. That's not how it works. Yeah, you know. So,

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Speaker 1: So I really do think that the release of these

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Speaker 1: documents it would be a real interesting newsday because there's

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01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:16,479
Speaker 1: gonna be a couple of fun teadbits that we can

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01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 1: pull out, especially for history buffs. But I don't think

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Speaker 1: that there's gonna be any big revelations. I don't think

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01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 1: that anybody will be shocked by what we find. Yeah,

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01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 1: that seems to be the same consensus my dad had,

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01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 1: and he has read so many books on the GfK assassination.

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Speaker 1: It's one of his favorite topics. You know, it's always

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01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 1: been fascinated by it and you know lived through it.

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01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,520
Speaker 1: So I understand why it's like people of our generation

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01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 1: being fascinated by the events and nine eleven and you're

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01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:44,799
Speaker 1: just like people wanted to see those twenty eight pages

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Speaker 1: of Saudi Arabia which I referenced earlier. UM I wanted

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Speaker 1: to mention, of course, the Remembrance Rumble is coming up

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01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 1: for Veterans Day and Remembrance Day in the UK, so

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01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:57,600
Speaker 1: if you're in the UK, you could buy tickets to that.

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01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 1: UM and Software will be in attendance. It will be

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Speaker 1: US off once again versus UK s OFFF But for

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Speaker 1: those of you in the US, particularly by me in

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Speaker 1: New York, emmatl Looney's to ten West fifty Street from

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01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 1: one to four pm. My friend Andrew Wilkow is gonna

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01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:17,719
Speaker 1: be doing his Freedom Ride. They're gonna be collecting money

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01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 1: for different charities including the Red Circle Foundation, UM Horses

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01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,560
Speaker 1: for Heroes out of Santa Fe, New Mexico, which Rick Iyanucci,

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Speaker 1: former Green Beret runs. I'm a huge fan of that guy,

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01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 1: a really nice guy. We gotta get him on soon. Um.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that'll be from one to four on Veterans Day,

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01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 1: which is a Saturday, to ten West fifty Street. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna be doing that whole freedom ride um of motorcycles

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01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 1: across fifty Street. So I'm really excited. I'll be there.

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Speaker 1: I'll see a bunch of you guys. I'm sure it's

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01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 1: gonna get packed out. Um, if you can make the

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01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,040
Speaker 1: trip out to New York City for it, be there,

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01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 1: or if you're in the UK, be there for the

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Speaker 1: remembrance rumble, um, anything else that you want to promote out.

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Speaker 1: I know that you always have your Instagram and stuff,

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01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 1: and and since we were talking about lifting, you always

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Speaker 1: keep up to date with all that on there. Oh yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: by all means, please follow me on Twitter. You know

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Speaker 1: I'm at Alex Hollings fifty two on Twitter. That's probably

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Speaker 1: where I I interact with readers the most. You can

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Speaker 1: find me on Facebook at facebook dot com slash Alex

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Speaker 1: Hollings writer, and you can find me on Instagram and

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Speaker 1: archetype fifty two, which you know, just just google that

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Speaker 1: you'll find it, and you're not gonna find anything like

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Speaker 1: like Ian says, it's not all that interesting to follow

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Speaker 1: me on Instagram unless you're into, you know, jim selfies

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Speaker 1: are pictures of cups of coffee, because those are pretty

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Speaker 1: much the only two things I do. I think it's

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Speaker 1: instrut interesting. I think it's interesting. Man, I like it.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I'm gonna tell you're pretty good on

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Speaker 1: social media. You're like sometimes I log into Twitter just

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Speaker 1: I mean I just have the soft Rep Radio Instagram.

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Speaker 1: and we have like more of this big personality. I

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Speaker 1: through here and what everybody is up to on a

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Speaker 1: regular basis, especially because of the fact that I'm in

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Speaker 1: of Softwrep. Absolutely. You know. It's cool for me, man,

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Speaker 1: because I've never been to the studio, so I get

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