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Speaker 1: Oh a great time. Oh by Steve Flasker. Good dous

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Speaker 1: doe text that's not at all We're time. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to another edition of one of those live today. It

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Speaker 1: actually is Wednesday, even though I said it was Wednesday

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Speaker 1: in the first five seconds of the show yesterday. But

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Speaker 1: today it is Wednesday. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker here till

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Speaker 1: three o'clock. Thanks for joining us. We're gonna be talking.

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Speaker 1: We've got a lot of stuff going on today, Brownie,

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Speaker 1: do we not. We've got Judy Batista on at one,

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Speaker 1: Michael Lombardi, former GM in the NFL at two o'clock.

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Speaker 1: There's a stuff some stuff going on, most notably about

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Speaker 1: these stadiums are going to be able to do. Um

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Speaker 1: ton of stuff. And also Fauci, doctor Fauci, who we

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Speaker 1: all know and love, has also said something that's a

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Speaker 1: little bit different than what he said a month ago.

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Speaker 1: But first of all, how you doing. How is your night? Everything? Okay? Day? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I had some wild weather last night with the rain

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Speaker 1: and then all this wind came in. Oh, you know, summertime,

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Speaker 1: pull them in so they don't blow into the neighbor's yard.

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Speaker 1: And did you hear my door, my office door just

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Speaker 1: just blew my door. Still windy now, so yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was like a Gilligan's Island storm, yes, kind of yeah,

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Speaker 1: but otherwise, yeah, it was. You know, it was a

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Speaker 1: there where you're at what you Amhurst said it was.

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Speaker 1: It was the wind, really it was. I mean it

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Speaker 1: was a steady rain, nothing special. Then the rain stopped

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Speaker 1: and forget about it. So us you see, it was

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Speaker 1: rain and wind, and I mean it looked like it

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Speaker 1: looked like fire hose out there. It was a it

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Speaker 1: was apocalyptic. It was a bad storm and we went

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Speaker 1: then it you know, can't peeled off. And we took

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Speaker 1: to the storm everywhere it was. It was a bad storm. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was wind all night for us, but I was

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Speaker 1: so I was inside, and I was kind of glued

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Speaker 1: you know, we had the news about baseball and they're

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Speaker 1: and there's some safety measures that they've got to agree

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Speaker 1: on with the union and such, but it looks like

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Speaker 1: big ball is going to happen. And then you know,

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Speaker 1: you hear doctor Fauci talking about how it's impossible to

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Speaker 1: call if the NFL season should be played, and people

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Speaker 1: are wondering if that is different from what he had

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Speaker 1: said previously, But I think he's just being honest. There's

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Speaker 1: no way to know, oh what what's gonna go on

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Speaker 1: and what's not gonna go on in September. That sounds

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Speaker 1: that sounded different to me though, when he said that,

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Speaker 1: because a month ago he said I don't see how

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Speaker 1: know if it can. You know, he says it's impossible

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Speaker 1: that's different. I don't know whether he means it differently

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Speaker 1: about this, Brownie. You get you know, the players. Let's

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Speaker 1: If I'm the league, I just say, listen, guys, here's

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Speaker 1: the more present danger is, you know, covering a kickoff.

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Speaker 1: And Governor Cuomo on his comments today and his daily

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Speaker 1: How's that? And how's that gonna work? Text? Three weeks?

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Speaker 1: And then think about it, Brownie, you're you're in These

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Speaker 1: do if they're under a fourteen day quarantine. That's exactly right. Now.

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Speaker 1: But like we said yesterday, there's probably an opt out date.

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Speaker 1: But if you're in, you can play, and if you

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Speaker 1: But here's the thing. We're gonna play these sixteen games,

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Speaker 1: to play. That all sounds great, but you know, you look,

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Speaker 1: is what it's going to be. I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: think we're just asking people to give us their ideas.

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Speaker 1: Should that Should it be a set limit, a set amount,

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Speaker 1: because it should it be a number? Or should it

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Speaker 1: be a percentage of your total capacity? Because like fifteen

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Speaker 1: percent in the Bill Stadium is different than fifteen percent

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Speaker 1: at MetLife Stadium, So should it ran a number or

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Speaker 1: should it be a percentage? Right? And plus do you

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Speaker 1: or do you think it should just be fair? Whatever

433
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Speaker 1: the stadium, it should be just fair. So a set number,

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Speaker 1: because here's the thing, it's not fair anyway. That's the

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Speaker 1: only part of the NFL that's not fair. Right. You

436
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Speaker 1: can have as many people as you want, is your

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00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: stadium will fit like ninety thousand in Jerry World and

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Speaker 1: seventy five or seventy two in New Era Field and

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Speaker 1: twenty five in the soccer Stadium where the Chargers played

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Speaker 1: the last two or three years. Right. So that's where

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Speaker 1: I think if you're a larger stadium, you could make

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Speaker 1: you the argument that it should be a percentage, because

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones is probably saying, well, if I can only

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Speaker 1: have ten thousand fans in my cavernous you know, Gigundo Stadium.

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Speaker 1: You're not even get able to hear him. They're not

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Speaker 1: gonna have anything. I say, give me ten percent, you know,

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Speaker 1: or fifteen percent, because and I have a larger capacity,

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Speaker 1: I can have more people. And we have another layer

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Speaker 1: to this too, Steve, I think they go by a

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Speaker 1: percentage because it means more butts than the seats, which

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Speaker 1: means he's more ticket revenue. Think about this, Brownie, Think

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Speaker 1: about this. So Jerry World in Dallas, they can have,

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Speaker 1: say whatever, thirty thousand people in the stadium. You could

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Speaker 1: almost fit twenty thousand of those in the most expensive

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Speaker 1: suite seats in pro sports. They've got those social distance

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Speaker 1: and main and then yeah and you leave and for whatever,

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Speaker 1: that's all you can fit in that stadium. Well, they

458
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Speaker 1: can pick what seats they want to give them. Plus

459
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Speaker 1: so they can put these people in sweets if they want,

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Speaker 1: and charge them whatever they want and cut their losses.

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Speaker 1: And they wouldn't care, you know they you know, what's

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Speaker 1: what does Jerry really care whether there all those people?

463
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Speaker 1: He cares about the cash rolling in so he can

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Speaker 1: charge for the sweets, and all the sweets are socially

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Speaker 1: distanced anyway. They're pods, and you say you've got to

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Speaker 1: you've got to tell us that your people are in

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Speaker 1: your suite, are in your isolation pod with you, you've

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Speaker 1: quarantined with them, and you can come in and sit

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Speaker 1: and watch the game as normal. But you gotta pay

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Speaker 1: a premium to do it. And they could. They've got

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Speaker 1: I would thousands of sweet seats in that stadium. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you can do that in Buffalo Stadium too. A new era,

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Speaker 1: all the suits could be filled with people who are

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Speaker 1: already uh living together. Yeah, there's gotta be you gotta

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Speaker 1: make sure your police in that properly. There's gotta be. Wow, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because it's it's how how how well how different is

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Speaker 1: that from you don't you got do you don't have

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Speaker 1: to do that. You put the fine print on the ticket.

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Speaker 1: You put the fine print on the ticket, and we're

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Speaker 1: set if you have to be clause exactly exactly all

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Speaker 1: right that we gotta We're gonna do a whole day

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Speaker 1: on this. I mean, this is unbelieving. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: more going on. We've got Judy Pettista one uh from

484
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Speaker 1: NFL Network. We've got a former NFL GM Michael Lombardi

485
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: coming on at two o'clock and a lot of talk

486
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Speaker 1: about what's going to look like in the stadiums on

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Speaker 1: the season when it does start, and also about what

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Speaker 1: you think that should look like the social distancing and

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Speaker 1: what percentages or what number of fans should be in there.

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Chris Brown, We're here till three o'clock. This

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Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio, presented by Kalidah Health. This is

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Speaker 1: one Bills Live back in one of those lives Catcher

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, We're asking a question of our listeners. Should

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Speaker 1: the NFL set fan capacity limits to maintain competitive equity

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Speaker 1: around the National Football League? And and you know the

496
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Speaker 1: thing that gets lost in all this, Brownie, is the

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Speaker 1: fact that they've never done that before. You know, they've

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Speaker 1: never cared about the competitive equity in places like Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: Arrowhead Stadium, Mile High Stadium, Seattle. These teams that really

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Speaker 1: do have a constant and ever ongoing fans, sellout crowds

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00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,720
Speaker 1: that really affect out comes. Again, they never cared before.

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Speaker 1: And now because of this pandemic, the question kind of

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Speaker 1: comes above and it's like, and there's three choices we have.

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Speaker 1: There should be a level playing field A or be

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Speaker 1: a team with a larger stadium, shouldn't should not get

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Speaker 1: an edge and see you get what your stadium allows.

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Speaker 1: We've got people chiming in from Twitter. Should the NFL

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Speaker 1: set fan capacity limits to maintain competitive equity? And from Tiffany,

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Speaker 1: she says, I strongly believe it should be an all

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Speaker 1: or nothing policy. Each stadium has a diverse layout and

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Speaker 1: configuration depending on when it was built. Even with a

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Speaker 1: limited capacity, it seems impossible to social distance during a game.

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Speaker 1: Way too many uncontrollable variables go into this. She's not wrong,

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Speaker 1: She's not wrong. There's no question. I mean, if they

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Speaker 1: can't do it on a golf course in the PGA,

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Speaker 1: you're going to struggle in a stadium when you know,

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Speaker 1: when you somebody you know has a pick six and

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Speaker 1: overtime to go win the game for the home team.

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Speaker 1: People are not going to socially distance in that moment,

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Speaker 1: am I right? Well? Yeah? And the other thing here

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Speaker 1: too that we have to keep in mind is as

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Speaker 1: much as NFL teams are putting together policies on attendance

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Speaker 1: and contingency plans, they're in because the story indicated that

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Speaker 1: NFL teams are doing that, like, how do we set

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Speaker 1: up twenty percent capacity? How do we set up fifty

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Speaker 1: They're planning all of this not even knowing if they're

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Speaker 1: going to use a lot, utilize any of it. Because

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Speaker 1: the quote that stuck out to me in that entire story,

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Speaker 1: and it was a great story I put together by

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Speaker 1: Daniel Kaplan from The Athletic about this was the quote

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Speaker 1: he got from an anonymous NFL official who obviously want

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Speaker 1: an anonymity for a reason. He said, quote, attendance will

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Speaker 1: be state by state, county by county. It will not

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Speaker 1: be one size fits all. That says it right there.

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Speaker 1: I mean, ultimately, the municipal ladies and the county governments

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Speaker 1: are going to dictate what these teams can have. So

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Speaker 1: I don't see, knowing that you've got thirty two teams

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Speaker 1: in thirty two different municipalities, with the exception of the

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Speaker 1: Jets and Giants and the Chargers in the RAMS, how

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Speaker 1: there's no way it's going to be equal competitively. There's

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Speaker 1: just no way, because it's gonna be based on perhaps

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Speaker 1: not only the size of your stadium and how many

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Speaker 1: people it can hold, but it's also going to be

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Speaker 1: based on how the heck the county's doing in terms

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Speaker 1: of fighting COVID nineteen. That's right, and that makes a

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Speaker 1: lot of sense. I mean, certainly, the league is a

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Speaker 1: powerful entity and it's got wide ranging influence around the nation.

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Speaker 1: But when push comes to shove, you've got these stadiums

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Speaker 1: and a lot of places that are like owned by

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Speaker 1: the county, or even if it's owned by the ownership

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Speaker 1: itself or the club itself, the county's gonna step in

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Speaker 1: and say, listen, you're we're gonna there's a city ordinance

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Speaker 1: now that says you can't have any more than such

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Speaker 1: and such capacity. And usually, particularly here in Buffalo, the

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Speaker 1: Bills have got a great relationship with the local government,

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Speaker 1: as do most NFL teams, and the county will say, listen,

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Speaker 1: here's what we're willing to do. We'll let you go

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Speaker 1: to in this stadium of seventy two thousand, five fifty

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Speaker 1: capacity or whatever the stadium is right now. Will let

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Speaker 1: you go fifteen thousand, or we'll let you go. Will

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Speaker 1: let you have all your suite sales if you can

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Speaker 1: work it so that the people in those suites are

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Speaker 1: part of a isolation pod. They can be in there

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Speaker 1: without being socially distanced in the suites because people could

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Speaker 1: say who they want to watch the game with. But

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Speaker 1: in the regular general seating, you can only have such

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Speaker 1: and such either a percentage or a regular number. And

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Speaker 1: that's how it would work. I think that's my best

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Speaker 1: guess of how it would work here in Buffalo. But

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Speaker 1: it would totally be a local government, county government call

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Speaker 1: and how many people are, what percentage they can be in,

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Speaker 1: and they would look at and each government entity, given

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Speaker 1: the fact that they've already got relationships with these clubs.

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Speaker 1: Every each government would say, listen, your stadium, will let

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Speaker 1: you see them, Will you see people here, here and here?

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Speaker 1: And we'll let you have this many people in this area?

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Speaker 1: Is that kind of thing, And it'll be up to

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Speaker 1: the clubs to come up with a way of getting

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Speaker 1: people in and out without having them blow that social

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Speaker 1: distance kind of thing, right, They've got they've got to

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Speaker 1: have a plan for that as well. So if the

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Speaker 1: clubs can do that, I'm sure that they'll get cooperation

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Speaker 1: from the governments because everybody wants to see something like

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Speaker 1: this happen. They want life to go on as normal,

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Speaker 1: and they don't want the economic impact to be so

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Speaker 1: devastating in these neighborhoods, around these in these cities, around

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Speaker 1: these stadiums, to be you know, crippling for the small businesses.

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Speaker 1: And after traversing and talking your way through all of that,

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Speaker 1: I look at Adam's comment from the tweet sheet and

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Speaker 1: I chuckling. Probably isn't the right way to go here,

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Speaker 1: because this is a serious thing. But he says, if

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Speaker 1: people want to go, they should be able to go.

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Speaker 1: Simple as that. Well not really that simple, really that simple,

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Speaker 1: you know. I respect the response Adam, but man, it's

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Speaker 1: not like, hey, I want to go, I should be

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Speaker 1: able to go. It's just no, no, you no, because

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Speaker 1: you'll have you'll have some fool who will show up

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Speaker 1: with symptoms. He didn't he and he's totally you know, okay,

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Speaker 1: it'd be irresponsible. He'll show up with symptoms and he'll

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Speaker 1: hobnob and do whatever he wants to do. UM. And

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Speaker 1: quite frankly, nobody wants that. So UM that's why. UM.

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Speaker 1: If they have symptoms, if they have the virus, they

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Speaker 1: can't go. They should not go. But if you allow

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Speaker 1: them to, some fool will and maybe more than one

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Speaker 1: or maybe somebody will say and I don't feel that great,

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Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't know if it's cool. I still

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00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: want to go. I'm gonna go and just try and

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Speaker 1: stay separate. Well, and it won't work, that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: So I get it from Adam, Um, but I think

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Speaker 1: that's I think it's foolhardy. That's not a world we're

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Speaker 1: living in anymore. That's rightful, you know, I'll I'll use

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Speaker 1: his phrase simple as that, that's not the world we're

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Speaker 1: living in anymore. When when you don't get to do

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Speaker 1: whatever you want to do, right, when freedoms, when freedoms

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00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: endanger others, then they they you know, they should be

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Speaker 1: those rights should be waived by good, sensible people, but

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Speaker 1: they aren't always so there could it could put somebody

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Speaker 1: at risk, and you know, and that you can't allow

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Speaker 1: people to do that, and they because they will, right Brownie,

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Speaker 1: I mean Novak Djokovic, He right, I mean seriously, right,

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Speaker 1: I don't and I don't want get all back into

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Speaker 1: that again. But right, I've found out later like he's

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Speaker 1: taken group shots with like fans that came to watch

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Speaker 1: and went to a concert that night, and like no

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Speaker 1: mask not like you know, I'll tell you what God,

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Speaker 1: you know, Brownie, you think about it, it'll be really interesting,

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure they will. The health authorities will probably

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Speaker 1: track that spread from that event as closely as they can,

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Speaker 1: because that is an absolute almost scientific experiment about how

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Speaker 1: fast it would spread. Steve, I'm gonna tell you right now,

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Speaker 1: so the outbreak in Italy and the outbreak in Spain,

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Speaker 1: those two European countries is directly tied to a Champions

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Speaker 1: League match in professional soccer that took place between a

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Speaker 1: team from Spain and a team from Italy that was

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Speaker 1: played in Milan. It is directly correlated to the outbreak

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Speaker 1: in Milan, which then spread throughout the entire boot of

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Speaker 1: Italy as we all know, and spread in Spain. It

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Speaker 1: is directly tied to that game. And there you go.

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Speaker 1: So I'm telling you it's already it's an experiment that's

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Speaker 1: already happening. They're going to duplicate, They're gonna duplicate the

641
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Speaker 1: results or try to in the second scientific study. I

642
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: mean that that was the first Petrie dish. It led

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Speaker 1: to gigantic outbreaks in two countries. You know, you had

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Speaker 1: what over sixty thousand deaths in Italy I mean and

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many in Spain. I haven't looked

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Speaker 1: up their numbers, but my god, like that is it.

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Speaker 1: That is the test case. Early on in art in

648
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: our quarantine period here in the United States, we kept

649
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: track of what was going on in Italy and it

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Speaker 1: was a little frightening, you know, it was a little frightening.

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Speaker 1: It was pretty concerning when you when you watched what

652
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 1: they were going through and how they were handling it,

653
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,919
Speaker 1: and they locked the extent to which they locked down

654
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: and still couldn't get a lid on it. It was

655
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: pretty scary. But and that's why, let's say fortune smiles

656
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: on the NFL and they do get up and running

657
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: in training camp, no major issues surface. You know, you

658
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: have the minor positive case here, maybe a positive case there,

659
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: and somehow, some way they're able to keep it relatively

660
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Speaker 1: under control. The phrase that is going to be the

661
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: most popular two word phrase beginning as early as August

662
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Speaker 1: is going to be contact tracing. We are going to

663
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Speaker 1: hear those two words together, maybe more than any other

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Speaker 1: two word phrase in the next four or five months,

665
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: the last five months of the year, right, I believe it.

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Speaker 1: So should the NFL set capacity limits fan capacity limits

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00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: to maintain competitive equity. From non analytics, he says it

668
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: should be proportional to your stadium size. Fifty percent capacity

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00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: is fifty percent capacity period. Some stadiums are larger and

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Speaker 1: louder than others, and they don't change things at one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent. Why is this different, Well, it's interesting too

672
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Speaker 1: because the only difference would be this from non analytics,

673
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: the only difference would be this. Some stadiums are set

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Speaker 1: up better for entrance and egress and being able to

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00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 1: keep a lot of people separate than others. Certain stadiums

676
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 1: have a higher percentage of their seats that are suits

677
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: and are isolated areas for people to sit than others.

678
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: So there is every stadium is different. Yeah it's not.

679
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Speaker 1: You can have a cut and dry percentage number, but

680
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Speaker 1: you don't have cut and dry, cookie cutter stadiums. They're

681
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: all different, right, So others and some stadiums and because

682
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: of you know, you get good people in there and

683
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 1: they'll say, listen, this whole section, like for instance, those

684
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Speaker 1: in new era of field and people who've been there

685
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Speaker 1: can realize what I'm saying. You look at from the

686
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Speaker 1: home side of the field, you go down towards the

687
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: scoreboard end all those suites up around the top those

688
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Speaker 1: two levels of sweets. Maybe the county health authorities will say,

689
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Speaker 1: you can use every other one of those on both levels,

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00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: and you've got a stagger. And let's not forget it's

691
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Speaker 1: a county owned facility, right, So the county will say,

692
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Speaker 1: you can use every odd one on the top level

693
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Speaker 1: and every even one on the bottom, and and you

694
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Speaker 1: can charge whatever you want for them. Same thing on

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00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: the side, the dugout suites, you can use every other

696
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Speaker 1: one all the way around the stadium. And also you

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00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 1: have to have you have to have them. The people

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Speaker 1: who are in there have to answer this questionnaire about

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Speaker 1: who's going to watch the game in that stadium, about

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Speaker 1: how closely they can and forego they can forego the

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Speaker 1: social distancing within that one dugout suite, that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: And you know, so they'll do that if they if

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Speaker 1: the government authorities and the health organizations decide they need

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Speaker 1: to do that. But that's how what you're looking at.

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Speaker 1: So that's new era field. That same setup won't work

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Speaker 1: in another stadium for some whatever reason, right, they just won't.

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Speaker 1: They can't do it. So that's why there is going

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00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: to be a discrepancy if you just say fifty percent

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Speaker 1: capacity everywhere around everywhere around the league. So from not

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Speaker 1: analytics asks, why is this different? It's different because every

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Speaker 1: stadium is different, that's why. And there's some stadiums that

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Speaker 1: could get a higher percentage of their fans in much

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Speaker 1: safer than another stadium than only gets thirty percent of

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Speaker 1: its fans in. Like you go to Pittsburgh and it's

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Speaker 1: I like Pittsburgh State, I like hinds Field. It's nice,

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Speaker 1: but it's not a stadium that's conducive to wide concourses

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Speaker 1: and lots of places where people it's it's hard to

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Speaker 1: get in and out. And in the corners they have

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Speaker 1: those you know, those blinding ramps that go down. Everybody

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Speaker 1: from one half of that upper deck is using that ramp.

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Speaker 1: So now you're gonna have to stagger, take hours sting

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Speaker 1: in and out of the out of there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: so they just it wouldn't work for them now to me,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the blanket the only thing that league can

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Speaker 1: do blanket wise, Brownie would just say zero capacity. You know, Yeah,

726
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: that's the easy way out, but that also costs them

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Speaker 1: a lot of money. That's lost. Well, that's why I

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00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 1: lot of money to find a way to make it work.

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Speaker 1: It's still gonna cost them a lot of money because

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Speaker 1: you're not gonna go to one hundred percent capacity, or

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Speaker 1: at least he doesn't look like today, I don't. We'll

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Speaker 1: see lots more to comes. Judy Patista coming on. Judy

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Speaker 1: Pattista from NFL Network coming on at the top of

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Speaker 1: the hour. We've got more. Should the NFL set fan

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Speaker 1: capacity limits to maintain competitive equity? Give us a call

736
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Speaker 1: if you wanted. Eight O three five fifty. This is

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker Chris Brown on Buffalo Bill's Radio, and this

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Speaker 1: is One Bills Live and welcome back to One Bill's Lives.

739
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Speaker 1: Steeve Tasker and Chris Brown. We're here till three o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Judy Petista coming, Judy Battista coming on at the top

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Speaker 1: of the hour. We've got a phone call from Zaire

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Speaker 1: and Buffalo on line one. Zaire, you're on with Chris

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Speaker 1: Brown and Steve Tasker. Go ahead, all right, and we

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00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: just hung out. Pause. I hear too bad. Call back

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00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: if you want anybody else wants to call in eight

746
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Speaker 1: O three oh five fifty we will get you on

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Speaker 1: as quickly as we can. Brown We've been talking about this,

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Speaker 1: uh fan capacity question. This is all, of course, if

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Speaker 1: the NFL actually has games and games are gonna take

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Speaker 1: take place. This from Russ on the tweet sheet. Should

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Speaker 1: the NFL set fan capacity limits to maintain competitive equity?

752
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: From Russ, he says, this whole concept of it's the

753
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: whole concept of home field advantage. Leave it alone. Well,

754
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: everything is getting tinkered with in this because I don't

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00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,160
Speaker 1: know how big a home field advantage it's gonna be

756
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: when there's only gonna be thirty thousand people in stands.

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00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: Even if you've got thirty thousand people in the stands

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00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: or twenty thousand or fifteen thousand people in the stands, Brownie,

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00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: and nobody else has any it's not that big an advantage. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and in a stadium that's open air, you know, like

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Speaker 1: New Air of Field, fifteen thousand fans, Yeah, you'll hear him.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know if it's gonna be deafening where

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00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: you know, an offense has to go to a silent

764
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: count A lot of that noise is just lost in

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00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: the ether, so to speak. So all right, when you

766
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: got sixty seventy thousand. It's it's going to rain down

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00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 1: onto the field much more effectively. I mean, I've been

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Speaker 1: to and I've broadcast some of the Section six playoff

769
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: games at New Era Field when you only have about

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Speaker 1: twelve hundred and fifteen hundred people and you can hear them,

771
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 1: but it's not impacting what's going on on the field

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00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: and the function they're in. So well, yeah, you can

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00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: still talk down on the field, and that's the thing.

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00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: You can still talk and yell across the field and

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00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: you can still hear each other. That's the big difference.

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00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: And the home field advantage is compromise. No matter what

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Speaker 1: you do. I don't care if you're an Arrowhead or

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Speaker 1: a New Era or Seattle. You know, in that stadium,

779
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:49,399
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be disappear. It's gonna disappear, right, I think.

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00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: I think the whole thing here that we have to

781
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 1: address is home field advantage is something that's never been

782
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: really controlled or impacted. It's at the sole discretion of

783
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: how many fans want to come out and watch the team,

784
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: watch the game whatever. And now we're getting into an

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Speaker 1: area where the league, along with their respective municipalities, may

786
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: move in on that and say, well, since we have

787
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,839
Speaker 1: this COVID nineteen thing, we should really kind of try

788
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 1: to keep a level playing field as best as possible.

789
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: So we think across the board, you should have this

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00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: percentage of fans because that would be equal across the

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00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 1: league and this unusual of seasons, So it is that realistic.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Should they be sticking their hands in that,

793
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I do know that if there

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00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: are some stadiums, based on the success of their respective

795
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 1: counties in tamping down the COVID nineteen pandemic, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: let fans in. And there may be other places that

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00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: can't because their municipalities say, no way, Jose, you're not

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00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: doing that. And so as soon as you get a

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Speaker 1: stadium that's got twenty percent capacity, and then the next

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Speaker 1: week there's a stadium that's got zero, there's gonna be

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00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: people that are up in arms about that. Yeah, yeah,

802
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: there will be, and rightfully, so you get there. You

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00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: get their point. I think one thing that could do

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00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,800
Speaker 1: the league will just ask all thirty two entities what

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00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: they're gonna allow, and they'll go with maybe the smallest one.

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00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: Say listen, California's or a New York state is only

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Speaker 1: allowing fifteen percent capacity. That's the league rule because that's

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00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 1: the minimum or whatever, So it would be below every

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00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 1: other states. It would be fair and equitable, even though

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00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be as many people in the stadium as

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Speaker 1: they could get in some places. It would be an

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00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: equal percentage around the league. Maybe they'd do that, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know. We're gonna take a break. Judy Batista

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Speaker 1: coming on right after the break, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

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Speaker 1: on One Bills Live, and this is Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: Oh we tackle by Steve Taskers down TuS down text.

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Speaker 1: We're time. Welcome back to One Bill's Lives Deep task

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Speaker 1: along with Chris Brown, we're here till three o'clock. We're

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Speaker 1: asking the question if the NFL should set fan capacity

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Speaker 1: limits around their stadiums. You can call us at eight

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Speaker 1: to three oh five fifty or one eighty to eighty

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. But before we get to

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Speaker 1: any phone calls, we're gonna take this call from Judy

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Speaker 1: Batista and NFL dot com writer an NFL network reporter.

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00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on, Judy, Steve Tasker, Chris Brown here

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo. We gotta ask you right off the top, Judy,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing during the pandemic? Are you safe

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00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: and well? We all are here, Thanks very much, and

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Speaker 1: I hope the same for you guys. Yeah, we are

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00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: actually doing well. We've We're not on TV like we

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Speaker 1: usually are. We usually do a simulcast, but for the

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00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 1: last few months has just been radio only, and so

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Speaker 1: we're talking about this topic today. What do you think

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00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: the NFL will ultimately do, What kind of policies will

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Speaker 1: they come up with, and concerning fans being in their

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Speaker 1: stadiums for the games. My guests from talking to people

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Speaker 1: throughout this is that we will see varying numbers of fans.

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00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: That it will depend on what the local rules are.

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Speaker 1: And as you guys know, right, it's different all over

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00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 1: the country. Right. There are some places that seem to

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00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: be very open to the idea of a lot of fans.

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00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: There are some places that seem to be willing to

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00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: maybe have a small percentage of fans, And then it

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Speaker 1: seems clear that at least in the beginning of the season,

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Speaker 1: there's probably not going to be fans at all. So

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Speaker 1: I think we are likely to see it be all

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00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: over the map and be up to local regulations that

848
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 1: it will not be a mandate from the league that

849
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: X percentage be allowed. Obviously, you know, for financial reasons,

850
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: you'd like to have as many fans as you can.

851
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: For safety reasons, you really have to be careful. And

852
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,360
Speaker 1: I think the NFL is going to bow to whatever

853
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: the local limits are. Yeah, as much as they want

854
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: to recoup lost revenue, which is going to be sizeable

855
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: this year. I think everybody's anticipating that. I think even

856
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: more so, they don't want the headline you know, outbreak

857
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: in Texas started because of forty thousand fans at you know,

858
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: Cowboys Stadium. That's right, that's a headline they want to avoid.

859
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: I'm kissing there's no question. And certainly, whenever, you know,

860
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: the decision is made about fans, there's going to be

861
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: a lot of disclaimers, right. I mean, they are certainly

862
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: going to discourage fans who might have underlying conditions that

863
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: make them higher risk. They're going to discourage those fans

864
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: from going. I mean, there's just no question. They're going

865
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: to advise people to err on the side of caution.

866
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: You know, you've already seen teams chelseason ticket holders. If

867
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: you know, if you have an underlying condition that makes

868
00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: you concerned about going, you know, you won't lose or

869
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: spot on the season tickets. So I think we're going

870
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: to see a lot of flexibility here. This is going

871
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: to be you know, this is going to be a

872
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: season unlike anything we've seen before. A lot of it

873
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 1: is going to be very very different, Judy, do you

874
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 1: with that in mind? You know, there's there's been reports

875
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: of NFL owners as many as ten saying that they

876
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 1: want to push the season back, get a little bit

877
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 1: more information gathering done and kind of go into school

878
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: off of these other sports leagues that are going to

879
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,439
Speaker 1: be resuming at the end of July, if all hold

880
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: supporting the form, do you see that movement of owners

881
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: gaining greater momentum the deeper we get into the summer

882
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: here to make, you know, delaying the season or pushing

883
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: it back a month, for example, as as a real

884
00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: distinct possibility. If I to say right now, I would

885
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: say no. And here's why. First of all, the thinking

886
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 1: from the league has been consistent since March since everything

887
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: had to shut down, and that was to try to

888
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 1: stay as on schedule as you can, you know, accommodate things,

889
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: change things where you had to. Obviously they you know,

890
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: they made it all a virtual draft. That was the

891
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: biggest example. You had the virtual all season. But to

892
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: try to stay on schedule as much as you can.

893
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: Here's the problem with pushing things back. And this is

894
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 1: why they didn't push free agency back. It's why they

895
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: didn't push the draft back. It's why they didn't push

896
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: the off season program back. Because nobody can tell you

897
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,839
Speaker 1: that things are going to be better in a month. Right,

898
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: So even if you push things back and say, well,

899
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: let's go to school for a month on Major League

900
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 1: Baseball and the NBA and see how they do, nobody

901
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: can assure you that things are going to be better

902
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: in a month. They could conceivably be worse, especially as

903
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 1: you get further into the year and you get into

904
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:00,800
Speaker 1: the part of the year where that you know, the

905
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,399
Speaker 1: doctors are advising people that we could have a second

906
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: wave in the country. So you know, yes, I understand that,

907
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: you know the concerns about you'd like to have time

908
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: to to see how it works, how the testing protocols

909
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: are working in the other leagues. But the risk of

910
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: waiting is that you know, you're also in the unknown

911
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 1: there and you might be heading into a part of

912
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 1: a year that is considerably worse even than what we

913
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: have now. So my guest right now is that they

914
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 1: they try to start the season on time unless something

915
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 1: really gets in their way. Is there going to be

916
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: any more roster exemptions than there have already been made?

917
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 1: You know, the the practice squad seems to have been

918
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: you know, it got expanded. Do you think that the

919
00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: league and it's been my opinion that the league should

920
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: make any concession necessary to have enough bodies available for

921
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: these clubs on a week to week basis and in

922
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: practice situations to get the season in even if a

923
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: chunk of their roster test positive. How likely is that

924
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 1: to happen? And because if the rent, what happens, if

925
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: a team doesn't have enough guys to feel a team,

926
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: they may have to forfeit a game, which would be

927
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: unprecedented in NFL. So they've got to have a contingency plan. Yeah. Well,

928
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: first of all, all of that has to be negotiated

929
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,959
Speaker 1: with the union, and they're still doing that right. Nothing

930
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: has been laid out yet, so all of those things

931
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 1: are being discussed. We reported a few weeks ago, Mike

932
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 1: carefollow and I that that they are looking at, you know,

933
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: making a bigger practice squad for just that reason, and

934
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: sort of loosening up the rules about how you know,

935
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: you could bring guys up and down off the practice

936
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 1: squad for just that reason, right, Because it's not a

937
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: question of if one guy test positive, it's a question

938
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 1: of five guys test positive, and they test positive on

939
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: the night before a game, what do you do? Right?

940
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: You have to have some flexibility there. So I think

941
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: you're right, you're I think we're going to see again

942
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: on you It's going to be unusual. It'll probably be

943
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 1: a one season only thing, but I think we're going

944
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: to see a loosening of the rules and things created

945
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: to allow greater roster flexibility, allow them to carry more players,

946
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 1: allow them to travel with more players. Because you know,

947
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: the big concern is you just alluded to it. I

948
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: talked to an owner about this a few weeks ago.

949
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: Did they concern above the whole just general question about

950
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: health and safety is what if there's an outbreak on

951
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: a team, on a single team, what happens? Does that

952
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: team have to forfeit? Like, at what point do you

953
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: get to the point where you know, if there are

954
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: ten guys with a positive test, what do you do?

955
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 1: And if they get a positive test on them, you know,

956
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,759
Speaker 1: on a Saturday night before Sunday kickoff, what do you do?

957
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: Those are the kinds of scenarios that they have to

958
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: work through. There are a million of them. And I

959
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: talked to an owner a few weeks ago who said,

960
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: we're going to be talking to the union all summer

961
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: because they've got to get all of these things ironed out,

962
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,040
Speaker 1: certainly before the regular season kicks off. A lot of

963
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: people would like them to be in place before training

964
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: camp kicks off, so that you know what you're dealing with.

965
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: But those are the issues that they're confronting. We're talking

966
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: to Judy Batista from NFL Network and NFL dot Com,

967
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,240
Speaker 1: and Judy, we've already seen this out there, the thought

968
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:18,240
Speaker 1: of shortening the preseason in an effort to help players

969
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: ramp their bodies up for an extra couple of weeks

970
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,919
Speaker 1: where you only have two preseason games as opposed to four.

971
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: Knowing you talk to owners as often as you do,

972
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: how realistic do you think that is? Does that have

973
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: legitimate traction? Yes, I've talked to teams that are already

974
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: working on that assumption that that's what the preseason is

975
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: going to look like. And they're thinking is, first of all,

976
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,560
Speaker 1: nobody's going to shed any tears over losing preseason games.

977
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: But be clear about that, right, Like, nobody's going to

978
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,359
Speaker 1: start not play four preseason games. So that's an easy

979
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 1: thing to take care of. But the thinking is, you know,

980
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,280
Speaker 1: they didn't have OTAs, right, they weren't on the field,

981
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,359
Speaker 1: and even you know early on when things were really

982
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: shut down around the country, they didn't even have access

983
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 1: to gyms, and so you know, coaches are understandably concerned

984
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: about what kind of shape are guys going to be in, Like, yes,

985
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: you trust them to run, but what kind of equipment

986
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 1: did they have access to? How diligent were they you know,

987
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: were they being monitored? So the idea is you want

988
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: to be able to get them in a controlled environment,

989
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,720
Speaker 1: ramp up with their bodies, get some conditioning in before

990
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 1: you actually put on the paths and the helmets and

991
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: start to hitting. Right. I mean usually in a normal

992
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 1: training camp, you know they're in camp two or three

993
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,919
Speaker 1: days and out they go and they start hitting. That's

994
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,879
Speaker 1: not what you want and one thing they learned from

995
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: is the year on a lockout. If you remember, the

996
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: lockout ended and players had to report almost immediately to

997
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: camp right it ended right at the end of the summer,

998
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 1: at the time that camps would be opening. Players had

999
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: to report right away, so there was no ramp up time.

1000
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: They went right into what training camp would normally be

1001
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: without any of that offseason work. And they definitely saw

1002
00:55:56,680 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 1: an uptick in injuries, things like achilles teares right which

1003
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: are devastating injuries, right season ending injuries. So they don't

1004
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 1: want to repeat of that. So they want to try

1005
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: to give guys as much time as they can to

1006
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: ramp up to acclimate before they get into the real football,

1007
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,800
Speaker 1: the hitting and so the thinking is you build in

1008
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: a longer runway. You lop off two preseason games. You

1009
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 1: get the two preseason games in as much to get

1010
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: a look at your roster, but also to look at

1011
00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: how the game day protocols are going to work. Everybody

1012
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: I was told we'll have if you're playing only two games,

1013
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: one home and one away, because you want to see

1014
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 1: what those game day protocols are going to be like

1015
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: in a home stadium and on a trip on a

1016
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 1: road trip and that you know, those two games should

1017
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: give everybody enough time to evaluate their rosters too. Judy,

1018
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: the thing the question I've got, and there is no

1019
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: question that the players have a say and how this

1020
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: is going to turn out, no question about it. It's

1021
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,800
Speaker 1: it's their bodies and it's their health that is actually

1022
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,479
Speaker 1: going to be on the line in these games where

1023
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,439
Speaker 1: you know they're going to be swapping bodily fluids, whether

1024
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: they like it or not. I mean, it's if somebody

1025
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: gets it, they're all going to catch it. But who's

1026
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 1: got the leverage in these negotiations. Is it the owners

1027
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: who have the who can say, listen, we've got this

1028
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: going on, or is it the players who can say, listen,

1029
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,960
Speaker 1: it's our health on the line. But the owners have

1030
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 1: the leverage of saying, listen, if you want to you know,

1031
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: if you want to get paid at all this season,

1032
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: you're going to have to play. And also if you

1033
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: want relief from a salary cap that may shrink next year,

1034
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: we can put that on the table too and negotiate

1035
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: how free and willing you're going to let us be

1036
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: with your health that has already put at risk by

1037
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 1: the game you play. I mean, who's got the leverage

1038
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: in these in these negotiations, the players or the ownership.

1039
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: Certainly they both have a vested interest. Well, usually in football,

1040
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: you think that the owners have the leverage, right because

1041
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 1: there are no guaranteed contracts, so you would think the

1042
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: owners have the leverage. I think in this case it's

1043
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: pretty balanced because the owners are going to lose. There's

1044
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: no question of well, I don't want to say they're

1045
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: gonna lose money. They're not going to make as much

1046
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: money as they would project in a normal season. To

1047
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: make right, they're going to what you would think of

1048
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: would be the normal amount of revenue from ticket sales,

1049
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 1: for instance, and all the things that go with fans

1050
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 1: being at stadiums during a game. The good news is that,

1051
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: unlike in other sports like baseball, they have actually been

1052
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: working well together. The union and the league have actually

1053
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 1: been working really well together and getting the medical protocols

1054
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: in place and sort of figuring out when how they're

1055
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: going to have players report to training camp. So I

1056
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: don't think we're going to see it devolve into a

1057
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: fight the way we saw it happened in baseball. Until

1058
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 1: they finally got to a place where they're gonna have

1059
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: a season, but there's no question they're going to have.

1060
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 1: You mentioned the salary cap like. They have to iron

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Speaker 1: that out because the last thing anybody wants on either

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00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: side is for a steep drop in the salary cap

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00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: next year. That makes it very hard to do business.

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00:58:48,520 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: Is obviously not good for players who won't get the

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00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: benefit of having more money available. It's also not good

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Speaker 1: for the teams because it's really hard to project if

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00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 1: you have to do a long term contract. How do

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00:58:58,000 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: you do that if you don't have a good idea

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00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: of where the cap is going to be. So they

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00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: have to negotiate that. The union and the league have

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00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: to negotiate what's called the smoothing of the cap, where

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00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 1: you borrow money from future years so that you sort

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00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: of level off the salary cap and it doesn't take

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00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,439
Speaker 1: a steep drop. They have a lot to work through. Again,

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Speaker 1: Like I said, the owner told me, we're gonna be

1076
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: talking to the union all summer long because all of

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00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: those things have to be worked through. They have to

1078
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: work on things like right now, it looks like from

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00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: the CBA, if the league plays even one game and

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00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 1: then has to shut the league down, it looks like

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00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: the contract says that owners would have to pay players

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00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: their full salary for the year, So that would obviously

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00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: not be good for owners. They wouldn't be getting any

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00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: benefit of revenue coming in, and they would have to

1085
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: pay everything out. So all of those things have to

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00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: be negotiated. What happens if you only play half a season,

1087
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: what happens if a team has to forfeit a game

1088
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,920
Speaker 1: because there's an outbreak. All of those things are being negotiated.

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Speaker 1: The good news, I think again, is that they seem

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00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: to be getting along and negotiating well through all of

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Speaker 1: these issues. We're talking to Judy Bautista from NFL Network,

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01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: and Judy, we're about fifteen minutes into this conversation and

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01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:10,320
Speaker 1: we still haven't mentioned probably the most important thing connected

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01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 1: to all this, which is testing. Yeah, you know, we've

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01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: seen reports where they've talked about players being tested three

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01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: times a week. I don't know if that's enough personally,

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01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 1: how realistic is it to have the wherewithal and the

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01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: supply to test players daily. Do you think that's that's

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01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: a goal on the part of the NFL, And if so,

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01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 1: how realistic is that going to be in terms of

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01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: achieving it by the time players are back for camp. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I reported that earlier this week that the goal of

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01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 1: the league is to have daily salid the testing, and

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Speaker 1: then the three times a week the nasal swap test

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01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: that we've seen all over the news. That is the goal.

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01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 1: That's what they want to have in place. The question

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01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: is can they have that in place in time for

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01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: training camp, can then get it in place in time

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01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:07,439
Speaker 1: for the regular season, because certainly daily testing would seem

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01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 1: to be the best possible way to avoid an outbreak.

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01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: But they've been very candid, I think from the league

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01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: saying there are going to be positive tests, just like

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01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 1: you're seeing all across sport. There are going to be

1114
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: positive tests. The question is can they identify those people

1115
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 1: and pull them out right, quarantine them, get them away

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01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 1: from the rest of the team so that there is

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01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: not a spread. That is their goal. The goal is

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01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: to contain any kind of spread and not have an outbreak,

1119
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 1: and daily testing is certainly the way to do it. Again,

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01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 1: still being negotiated. That protocol has not been announced yet,

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01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: but the expectation is at the very least there will

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01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: be three times a week testing and certainly day before

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Speaker 1: game there will be testing, and there will be testing

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Speaker 1: for We were told everybody who could be in contact

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Speaker 1: with players on a game day, which means obviously the

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01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:59,040
Speaker 1: coaching staff, the training step, the game officials who would

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01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 1: be on the field, all the people who would be

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01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:02,640
Speaker 1: anywhere in near players on a game day are going

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Speaker 1: to have to be tested the day before a game.

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01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 1: But again, the hope is that they can get to

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01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: a point where they have daily testing, daily saliva testing,

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01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 1: so very not very invasive, very quick, and that would

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01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: help them identify very quickly who they need to remove.

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01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: One of the things about the NFL is that it

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01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,400
Speaker 1: is a grind of the season, and they go month

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01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,320
Speaker 1: after month, week after week, and it's a routine. So

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Speaker 1: is there any have you heard any inkling as to

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01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: how quickly a player will be back on the field

1139
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 1: after they test positive and in so doing it might

1140
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: be one of those things I was talking to Brownie

1141
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: about this earlier in the program. It may be that

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01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: the NFL sees a place where early in the season

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01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: they lose a lot of players, and then a month

1144
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: into the season they start getting those players back off

1145
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: the injured list because they've cleared protocol and they've got

1146
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: two negative negative tests in a row, that kind of thing.

1147
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 1: So it could get better and better as the season

1148
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: drags on longer and longer, but there will be some

1149
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: tough months perhaps in the early part of it. Is

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01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: there that kind of cycle possible? Sure? The last I

1151
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: was told, and again we don't know until they announced

1152
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 1: what the protocol is going to be. But the last

1153
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 1: I was told was, just like any other person, right,

1154
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: if you or I get a positive test back, we're

1155
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: supposed to be quarantined for two weeks away from everybody

1156
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 1: so that you don't spread it, and then you would

1157
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 1: have to have a negative test in order to come back.

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01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 1: So that presumably it would presumably be something like that

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01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 1: for a player. Whether it would actually be two weeks

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01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: less or more, I don't know. They'll have to tell

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01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 1: us that eventually. But yeah, I agree with you that

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01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: you could see that cycle where you get especially and

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01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: they all report to training camp, and they're coming from

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01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 1: all over the country and they haven't been supervised, you know,

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01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: and the spread is obviously in different places across the country. Now,

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01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 1: you know, is it possible that you see a lot

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01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 1: of positive tests as they report to training camps? Sure,

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01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: that's certainly conceivable. I just read a story the other

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01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 1: day that the NBA is sort of bracing for that

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01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 1: phenomenon as teams start to report to Orlando for their

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01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 1: you know, resumption of the season. So could you see

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01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: that as teams start to gather, Yes, that you could

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01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 1: see a lot of tests and then guys recover, hopefully

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01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 1: knock on wood, and then they should be available. The

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01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 1: question is going to be that as we cycle through

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Speaker 1: the season and you know, if there are you know,

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Speaker 1: if there is a second waves as we get further

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Speaker 1: into the winter, can they convince players. So much of

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01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: this is going to be on players to not expose themselves, right,

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01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 1: I mean, the same thing as every other citizen is

1181
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,920
Speaker 1: being told, right, social distancing, don't be in big gatherings,

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01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: wear masks, you know, wash your hands. So much of

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01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 1: that is going to depend on players doing that and

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01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 1: how much, you know, how much do you count on

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01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 1: guys during the season, you know, not going to crowded

1186
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: restaurants or a club because obviously the teams would prefer

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01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 1: that those players not be in those environments. That's where

1188
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: it spreads and a lot of it is going to

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01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: fall on players to be careful in their off time

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01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 1: when they're away from the team facility. And then a

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01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,200
Speaker 1: lot is going to rely on the you know, the

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01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: reliability of the tests that if they're taking a test

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01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: every day, you know, if the test has to be accurate,

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01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 1: and if that if it you know, if they can

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01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 1: identify those guys quickly, you know that should keep it

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Speaker 1: from spreading. And then dovetailing off of that, Judy, I

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Speaker 1: believe you're you're East Coast based, right, You're you're in

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Speaker 1: New York, New York, New York. Yeah, so I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you saw a Governor Cuomo's addressed today. I did,

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Speaker 1: But New York, New Jersey, Connecticut. If you're coming from

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Speaker 1: a state with a high COVID nineteen infection rate, you're

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Speaker 1: going to be subject to fourteen day quarantine. Well you

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01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 1: think about all the players in the NFL who reside

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01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 1: in Florida, Texas, and California, three spike states. Um, I

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01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 1: mean we were in a situation where these players may

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01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 1: have to travel up to New York quarantine themselves for

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01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 1: fourteen days. I mean we're talking the Bills and the

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01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 1: Giants and the Jets and Jersey. I mean those three

1209
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 1: teams are going to need their players in town in

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Speaker 1: two weeks to serve their fourteen day quarantine, so they're

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Speaker 1: eligible for training camp, right, well, I would. I would

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01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 1: also add this though he also said that for instance,

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01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 1: immediately baseball teams that are now returning first the second

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Speaker 1: part of their spring training are not subject to that,

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Speaker 1: and that is okay, probably because the league is going

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01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 1: to be testing those players themselves. So in the case

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Speaker 1: of the NFL, when those guys start to travel to

1218
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: Buffalo and you know, New Jersey for the Jets and Giants,

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01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 1: the teams will be testing them when they report, so

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Speaker 1: they would sort of be in charge of quarantining them,

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01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 1: right in a way that for instance, if I am

1222
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Speaker 1: coming back from Florida, which I might be for vacation,

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01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 1: you know that it would be on the honor system, right,

1224
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:56,919
Speaker 1: I mean, I would not be subject to a test

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01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 1: by the NFL. Judy, but he's from NFL Network and

1226
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 1: NFL dot Com. She's a writer. Two things happened this offseason,

1227
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Speaker 1: and we've been talking about nothing but the pandemic and

1228
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 1: how the league will get back on its feet, but

1229
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 1: also with the death of George Floyd in the offseason

1230
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 1: and in the last few months, a few weeks, and

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Speaker 1: in the last few weeks we've seen a lot of protests,

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01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 1: and we've seen the National Football League almost have a

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01:07:24,520 --> 01:07:29,240
Speaker 1: complete paradigm shift in its public stance towards social justice.

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01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 1: What do you make of that huge shift in rhetoric

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01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: we got from the National Football League And what do

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01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 1: you see the differences being going forward? Well, what do

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01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: I make of the turnaround? I think it feels like

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01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:48,040
Speaker 1: an entirely different environment right now for the NFL. Look

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01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 1: when Colin Kaepernick was protesting, if the issues were all

1240
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 1: the same, right the issue he was protesting was police

1241
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: brutality and systemic racism. So the issues haven't changed. The

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01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 1: NFL's reaction to it changed, in large part because the

1243
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 1: President reacted to it and there was a big outcry

1244
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 1: and owners been reacted to the president. This feels different

1245
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 1: right The tenor of the conversation in the country is

1246
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 1: different than it has been in a long time. And

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01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,679
Speaker 1: I think the NFL, you know, reads the tea leaves

1248
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,320
Speaker 1: really well and recognizes they need to get on the

1249
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 1: right side of history here. I would say this, Roger

1250
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 1: Goodell's feelings on this have not changed right. Roger was

1251
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 1: always working behind the scenes trying to get Colin Kaepernick

1252
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 1: another opportunity in the NFL. You know, that workout that

1253
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 1: the NFL put together for Kaepernick last November does not

1254
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 1: happen if the commissioner is not pushing for it. So

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01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 1: I think Goodill this is closer to what Goodell really feels.

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01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 1: In the past. I think the owners were very concerned

1257
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 1: about what the public outcry would be if there were protests.

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01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 1: I don't think there is as much fear now as

1259
01:08:57,360 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 1: there was, you know, three and four years ago about

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01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 1: what the public reaction is going to be, because I think, frankly,

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Speaker 1: the public reaction is probably going to be pretty supportive

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01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 1: of players who are protesting. I expect, certainly whenever the

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01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 1: games begin that players will be protesting. I don't have

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01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 1: any doubt about that. Many many more players than we

1265
01:09:15,720 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 1: saw protesting, you know whatever, three or four years ago.

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01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 1: I think we're going to see that. And I think,

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01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,719
Speaker 1: you know, you've even seen some coaches say nobody protesting

1268
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 1: right along with their players at Bill O'Brien from the

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01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 1: Texan set it. So I'm strumped by the complete tenor

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01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 1: change unit yesterday. Sheila Ford hamp who is going to

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Speaker 1: be the new controlling owner of the Detroit Lions, taking

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Speaker 1: over from her mother, Martha Ford was asked about it

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Speaker 1: and she said, if her coach and GM thought it

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Speaker 1: was a good idea to bring in Kaepernick, she'd be

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Speaker 1: all four. And she said she supports the players right

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Speaker 1: to protest. And I mean that is what you are

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01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 1: hearing much more from team owners than we ever heard

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Speaker 1: three or four years ago, where they were very, very

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Speaker 1: concerned about the backlash, you know, from the president. Judy,

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Speaker 1: thanks so much for taking some time with a good

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Speaker 1: luck with the rest of your quarantine time. We hope

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Speaker 1: the pandemic and the and the recovery from it treats

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Speaker 1: you well. Thanks for being on with us today. Thanks

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Speaker 1: great to talk to you guys. Take care, Judy Batista,

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Speaker 1: NFL dot Com writer and NFL Network reporter, Steve Tasker

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Speaker 1: and Chris Brown coming back after the break. We've got

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Speaker 1: Mike Lombardi coming on at to a clock of former

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Speaker 1: GM in the National Football League. And also furthermore, your

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Speaker 1: calls eight three five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two,

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Speaker 1: five fifty and should the National Football League set fan

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Speaker 1: limits or fan capacities even across the board. As we

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Speaker 1: get set for the twenty twenty football season. Steve Tasker

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health And

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Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bills Radio right to up My Bad,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back one of Bills Lives Steve, Steve Tasker, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: wh We just had Judy Batista and we's had a

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Speaker 1: wide ranging topic conversation with her about a lot of

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Speaker 1: topics that around the league. She seems to be wired

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Speaker 1: into all of them, doesn't she, Brownie, That was a

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01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:17,679
Speaker 1: she she was pretty informative in her information. Yeah, she's

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Speaker 1: she's plugged in for a long time, even going all

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Speaker 1: the way back to when she was a writer for

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Speaker 1: the New York Times. So may we hit her with

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01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:29,759
Speaker 1: like seven or eight different current issues impact in the NFL,

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01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 1: and she had quality information on all of them based

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01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:37,640
Speaker 1: on her contacts around the league, which includes NFL ownerships.

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01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 1: So right, Yeah, she's always She's always great to have on.

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01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 1: She just brings so much to the table. You can

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01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 1: go back and listen to that at Buffalo Bills dot

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Speaker 1: com or the Buffalo Bills app, Spotify, Google Play, an

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01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 1: Apple podcast as well. Judy Bautista from NFL dot Com

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01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:53,559
Speaker 1: and the NFL Network. I guess she should be wired.

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Speaker 1: She's on the payroll right. Good for her. We had

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Speaker 1: we already talking her up. Just now he's in. She

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Speaker 1: does let me, she does the work. She was great. Um. Also,

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01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:11,760
Speaker 1: should the NFL set fan capacity around football stadiums around

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Speaker 1: the National Football League? What are your thoughts on that?

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Speaker 1: You can call us at eight o three oh five

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Speaker 1: fifty or one eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: ESPN came up with an article where they ranked all

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Speaker 1: thirty two rosters. This isn't a quarterback rankery, and this

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01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:29,719
Speaker 1: is their roster of NFL offensive starters and defensive starters.

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Speaker 1: Uh and uh, certainly you're kind of probably if your

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Speaker 1: Bills fan interested in where the Bills fell on that

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Speaker 1: they were number seven of the thirty two teams and

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Speaker 1: the thirty two rosters. And I think one of the

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Speaker 1: things that I got from this brownie not for nothing,

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Speaker 1: because you know, you always, as a as a journey

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Speaker 1: a journalist, as a media guy, I always you know,

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Speaker 1: kind of say, okay, how'd they get to this spot?

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Speaker 1: And one of the things I think they missed about

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Speaker 1: the Bills roster that I don't think was in the

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Speaker 1: way that they evaluated was death. And when you look

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Speaker 1: at it, it's it's easy to say, wow, I'm you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm That's one of the biggest things they have for

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Speaker 1: because you look at it. They've got a number of

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Speaker 1: players like Steph Biggs, John Brown, Cole Beasley, Lee, and

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Speaker 1: Dion Dawkins on the offensive side, and Jerry Hughes, Tredevious White,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Poria, Mica, Micah Hyde on the defensive side. Those

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Speaker 1: are the most notable players they've got listed for the Bills.

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Speaker 1: And they've got those guys that Bob average, you know,

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Speaker 1: they're okay. But the Bills number seven overall in the

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Speaker 1: league and the roster quality of their team, and they

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Speaker 1: follow Baltimore at number one, New Orleans at number two,

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Speaker 1: San Francisco at number three, Kansas City at number four.

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Speaker 1: That those four you can kind of like, yeah, you

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01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:47,880
Speaker 1: can kind of nod your head, right, yeah, Brownie, you

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01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 1: understand it. Right then Tampa Bay, Dallas and Buffalo. Tampa

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Speaker 1: Bay and Dallas and Buffalo. That's a pretty good group

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01:13:57,160 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 1: to be in, even though the Bills are at the

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Speaker 1: bottom of that group. I like Buffalo's roster that puts

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Speaker 1: Buffalo ahead in the top ten, ahead of Tennessee, Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: and Pittsburgh in the top ten of the rosters that

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Speaker 1: ESPN ranked. Yeah, and just so you know our listening

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Speaker 1: audience that may be driving around and can't get a

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Speaker 1: hold of this on ESPN dot com. The way they

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Speaker 1: broke it down was they had strengths, biggest weakness, and

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Speaker 1: then X factor for this upcoming season. And you know,

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Speaker 1: for the Bills, they had Josh Allen as the weakness.

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Speaker 1: And again they went back to his completion percentage numbers.

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Speaker 1: It's like an albatross Steve that is the consistent knock

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Speaker 1: and I understand why because it's a number that isn't

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Speaker 1: usually coupled with a successful quarterback over the last ten

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Speaker 1: fifteen years in this league. I just think that Josh's

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Speaker 1: game is a different kind of game. And yes, I

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Speaker 1: think everybody would like to see him up in over

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Speaker 1: sixty percent, but until he does, he is going to

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Speaker 1: be doubted in this area of his game, or as

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Speaker 1: a quarterback at large by people you know. And then

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Speaker 1: the X factor, I think is a little misplaced as well.

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Speaker 1: In their analysis, they're assuming that Josh Norman, who they

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Speaker 1: claim as the X factor. They're assuming Josh Norman is

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Speaker 1: going to be the starter opposite Tradavious White. I think

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Speaker 1: that is as far from a lock as you can imagine.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Levi Wallace in the last two years has

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Speaker 1: fought off competition successfully in two training camps, and so

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Speaker 1: to assume that Josh Norman is just going to swoop

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Speaker 1: in and take the starting job, I think is misguided.

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Speaker 1: And let's not forget that this was a top five

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Speaker 1: defense each of the last two years with Levi Wallace

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Speaker 1: in the lineup, right. So to think that Josh Norman,

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Speaker 1: who's coming off not a great year by any stretch

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01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 1: in Washington, not coming off with great two years, to

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01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 1: think he's gonna just come right in and snatch that

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Speaker 1: job away from him, and they're saying he's the X

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Speaker 1: factor in making this defense better. I just think it's

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Speaker 1: a complete miss. Yeah. I don't now, there's no question

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Speaker 1: that Josh Norman could come in and be the starter

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Speaker 1: and win him out and return to form. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying, but here's the thing. I think, when

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Speaker 1: you're talking about the way they evaluated the roster, I

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Speaker 1: think the X factor is not Josh Norman or it's

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Speaker 1: any any one individual person. I think it's the depth

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Speaker 1: of the lineup. I think they've got competition at the

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Speaker 1: offensive line. They've got competition at the corner opposite Tredavious White.

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Speaker 1: They've got a defensive line that is deep with young

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Speaker 1: and both young guys and experienced guys. They've got a

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Speaker 1: superstar in the making their middle linebacker, and plus they

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Speaker 1: brought in a j. Klein. They've got Matt Milano come.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they've got a roster that is deep and

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Speaker 1: solid all the way around, particularly on the defensive side

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Speaker 1: of the ball. They've got a running back that is

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01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 1: young and fresh in Devin Singletary, and yet another kid

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Speaker 1: coming in who may be more gifted in a lot

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Speaker 1: of ways than Devin Singletary is. They've got guys behind

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01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 1: all these guys that are equal to, if not pushing

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Speaker 1: them to replace. So that I think depth is the

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Speaker 1: real X factor here, and in a season where you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have guys dropping out of the lineup because they

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Speaker 1: get COVID nineteen, depth is gonna be the X factor

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01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 1: that changes the course of history in the National Football

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Speaker 1: League for the twenty twenty season. I think that's got

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Speaker 1: you gotta think that's a huge, huge factor. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think that's a good choice for X factor. The other

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Speaker 1: the only other one I would consider for the Bills

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Speaker 1: specifically as an X factor is which of their young

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Speaker 1: players can become elite in twenty twenty. I think Trudavious

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Speaker 1: White is right there. He's probably a leade already. Let's

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Speaker 1: be honest, He's probably the only one that is certified

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Speaker 1: elite on the entire roster. You have a lot of

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Speaker 1: above average, very accomplished players, but elite players, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: elite players like Kansas City has. You know, whether it's

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Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey or Tyree Hill or you know, can Stefan

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Speaker 1: Diggs prove to be an elite Number one? He's a

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Speaker 1: I think he's elite, But can he proved to the

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Speaker 1: league he is elite? Can Tremaine Edmonds get into the

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Speaker 1: elite category? You know players like that? Can they get

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Speaker 1: into the elite category and lift the Bills even into

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Speaker 1: a higher echelon of caliber of teams in the league.

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Speaker 1: I think that can also be considered an X factor

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty. I get that, and I know that's

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Speaker 1: the way. That's the way you watch these teams, like

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Speaker 1: with Michael Thomas and Drew brees Um. You see these

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Speaker 1: guys that can play elite and they're better than everybody else,

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Speaker 1: and you see them, you know, kind of dominating on everything.

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Speaker 1: And he guys like Tyree Hill and Pat Mahomes and

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01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:53,760
Speaker 1: these players that could dominate, like Kelsey and Kittle, the

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Speaker 1: tight ends you got. There are great players around the

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01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 1: National Football League that would be good in any system.

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01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you this, Brownie, not for nothing. But

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01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 1: we've been sitting here in Buffalo for twenty years watching

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01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots win with and I'm exaggerating obviously

1443
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:12,719
Speaker 1: to make a point. They got a great quarterback, maybe

1444
01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 1: the best ever quarterback of all time, but everybody else

1445
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:20,560
Speaker 1: is like Division two athletes. I mean, they got a

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01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 1: couple of star players, but those guys come and go

1447
01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 1: really quickly. Richard Seymour was in there for a while

1448
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 1: and now he's he left. You've got Darrelle Reeves parachuted

1449
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:31,640
Speaker 1: in then he left. Randy Moss was in there, then

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01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:35,360
Speaker 1: he left. Ty Law was in there, he left, Corey

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01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 1: Dillon was in there, he left, Vince Wilford was in there.

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01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 1: He left, Mike Vrabel was in there, he left. All

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01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 1: these guys, they've had great players at certain times that

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01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 1: were they all played extremely well, but they didn't have

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01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 1: stars that they built their team on the in the

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01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 1: exact same way, with the kind of the same blueprint

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01:19:55,320 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 1: that I see the Buffalo Bills doing. They're great. Whoever

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01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 1: they got are great together, and they do what they

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01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 1: do best, and they do some things every week that's

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01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,600
Speaker 1: a little different than you expect, and they also have

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01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 1: a handle on what you're doing against them. This coaching

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01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 1: staff does a great job too, I think on a

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01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 1: week to week basis, I just think the recipe. Certainly,

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01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 1: there are elite players around, no question about it. There

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01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 1: would be good and they're transcendent. But it's like our

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01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 1: friend Greg Kosel always says, they're not system people. They're transcendent.

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Speaker 1: Those guys are very rare, and I don't think you

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01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:32,559
Speaker 1: but I don't think you need those to be an

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01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 1: elite football team. I think you need a coaching staff

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01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 1: and a system that can utilize what your guys do.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not really bothered by the fact that you know,

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Speaker 1: Turdavious White may be the only guy that right now

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01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 1: is an elite player for the Bills. I'm not really

1474
01:20:44,479 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 1: interested in I know Steph Diggs is gonna help, no

1475
01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 1: question about it, But I'm not interested in all these

1476
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:54,599
Speaker 1: guys showing how great they can be individually. I wanted

1477
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:58,439
Speaker 1: some of these parts to be impossible to beat, and

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01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 1: whether you have elite guys or not. Guys like Jordan

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Speaker 1: Poyer and Micah Hide are the perfect example. They were okay,

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01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 1: they were cast off, they were cast on. Jordan Porter

1481
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 1: was a journeyman before the Bills grabbed him, and now

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01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 1: he and Hide are the best safety tandem in the

1483
01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 1: National Football League and have been for forty two months.

1484
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 1: So I'm not interested in any of these guys being eleague,

1485
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:27,240
Speaker 1: even Josh Shallon. I'm interested in the some of these

1486
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 1: parts in each and every week being almost impossible to beat.

1487
01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 1: And I think that's where they're at more closely than

1488
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 1: having guys emerge. And that's all well and good. Steve

1489
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 1: and I can get on board with that too, But

1490
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 1: I think we know that the great separator when you

1491
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 1: get to the playoffs are those elite talents that can

1492
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 1: make plays even against the best of defenses or the

1493
01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:50,439
Speaker 1: elite defensive players who can make the stop that you

1494
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 1: absolutely need when you need to have it. And so

1495
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 1: that's why I prefaced what I said saying as it

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01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 1: applies to the specifically, because as good as they are

1497
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 1: now arguably a ten eleven win team, if you can

1498
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 1: get Tremaine Endments to take that next step and be

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01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 1: an elite player, If you can get Stefan Diggs to

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01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 1: establish himself as a true number one and an elite player.

1501
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 1: That guy's never been to a Pro Bowl. Is that

1502
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 1: shocking to you? That is shocking to me. I know

1503
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 1: it's hard to make it as a receiver, anyway, I digress.

1504
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:24,639
Speaker 1: If you can get those guys up to an elite level,

1505
01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:27,600
Speaker 1: even a Devin Singletary, who I think burst onto the

1506
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:29,600
Speaker 1: scene late last year and really showed you something in

1507
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 1: the playoff game, if he can approach an elite level,

1508
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 1: now you're taking a ten or eleven win team and

1509
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 1: you're making them a true conference contender and possibly a

1510
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:42,760
Speaker 1: Super Bowl team. And that's why I point to that

1511
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 1: as an X factor. I think we all expect, even

1512
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 1: despite the tougher schedule, the Bills to be successful this

1513
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 1: year because of all the reasons that you outline. But

1514
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 1: if you want to take that monumental step into elite

1515
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:58,200
Speaker 1: territory as an NFL team that can win in some

1516
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:00,560
Speaker 1: of the last couple of games of the year, the

1517
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:04,559
Speaker 1: X factor is Edmonds becoming an elite player, Singletary becoming

1518
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:07,639
Speaker 1: an elite player, Josh taking a significant step forward. That's

1519
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 1: the X factor as I see it. Yeah, I agree,

1520
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:12,040
Speaker 1: because when you get into those games, you got to

1521
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 1: have somebody's got to make a play, just like the

1522
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:16,400
Speaker 1: Houston Texas did against the Buffalo Bills and that overtime,

1523
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 1: you know, Deshaun made a play and that's what wins

1524
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 1: the game for you. Steve Tasker, Chris Brown, We're coming

1525
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 1: back at two o'clock. Hower. We've got former NFL GM

1526
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 1: Micha Lombardi coming on. Stay with us One Bill's Live,

1527
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 1: presented by Kalida Health on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back

1528
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 1: to one of those life seems. After Chris Brown, we're

1529
01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 1: asking the question of our listeners should the NFL set

1530
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 1: fan capacity limits to maintain competitive equity. You can call

1531
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 1: us at eight h three oh five fifty or one

1532
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty from Sue she

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01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 1: answers that question. She says, distancing is logistically possible for

1534
01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 1: attending the game, but what about restrooms and concessions. You're

1535
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 1: supposed to have facial coverings and distance. I prefer Steve's idea,

1536
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:08,639
Speaker 1: meaning me, no fans until the playoffs, no fans until

1537
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:12,639
Speaker 1: the playoffs, then full capacity go bills. I'm telling you, man,

1538
01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:15,680
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. Brownie. They're gonna have these maybe even

1539
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:17,519
Speaker 1: if they do have a small percentage of fans in

1540
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 1: the stands. They're gonna get to the to the calendar year,

1541
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 1: right around the Christmas holidays, they're gonna have a vaccine available.

1542
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna start getting it. You get a home playoff game,

1543
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 1: and boom, you're gonna have fans in the stands full

1544
01:24:31,160 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 1: capacity one moment. I hope you're right. There was one

1545
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 1: that I think we had left from the old tweet sheet.

1546
01:24:37,960 --> 01:24:40,760
Speaker 1: Didn't win this one from Jack. Yes, as much as

1547
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 1: I want to go to games this season, I'm not

1548
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 1: optimistic this year with the virus. I hope the league

1549
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:49,599
Speaker 1: plays and opts for a level field. Level playing field

1550
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 1: approach like thirty three percent capacity for all stadiums. One

1551
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:57,360
Speaker 1: third should allow for some social distance and still give

1552
01:24:57,400 --> 01:24:59,680
Speaker 1: it a game feel and makes it fair for all,

1553
01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:03,240
Speaker 1: not bad, as fair as it always has been. Yeah, yeah,

1554
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 1: I could get behind that. Yeah, I mean, and that's

1555
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 1: kind of what you think this is going to head towards.

1556
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:11,560
Speaker 1: But obviously too it's gonna we've been talking about this.

1557
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:13,679
Speaker 1: What if you're in Texas and you can go fifty

1558
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:16,840
Speaker 1: percent capacity, and in New York, New Jersey you can

1559
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:21,560
Speaker 1: go ten percent capacity. And what about some of the

1560
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:24,040
Speaker 1: stadiums where they've got a ton of suits that you

1561
01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:27,720
Speaker 1: can easily socially distance in where by sequestering people in

1562
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 1: small pods at their own risk. You know, if you're

1563
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 1: if you're there with your family, you should be able

1564
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 1: to go and sit next to them like you do

1565
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:38,680
Speaker 1: in your regular box seat. You can do that. Some

1566
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:41,240
Speaker 1: stadiums are set up for it, others are not. How's

1567
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 1: that going to affect everything? Um, that's still something that

1568
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 1: has to be walked through stadium by stadium, state by state.

1569
01:25:46,479 --> 01:25:48,600
Speaker 1: But it's all on the table, and we don't know

1570
01:25:48,640 --> 01:25:50,599
Speaker 1: how it's gonna look. But I would, you know, Brownie

1571
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:52,599
Speaker 1: just makes up too much sense. If you've got an

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01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 1: all the open just say listen, all the sections that

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01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 1: are open seating and the regular seats. Forget all the

1574
01:25:57,439 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 1: suits and all the sky boxes. You can have one

1575
01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 1: out of every three people or one out of every

1576
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:07,080
Speaker 1: four seats you can put a person in and go

1577
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 1: from there. And I think that that kind of makes

1578
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 1: it close to what it's always been. The bigger the stadium,

1579
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 1: the more fans you have in an actual number. Yeah,

1580
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 1: and I don't think this would come into play and

1581
01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 1: change the protocols in the minds of the medical experts.

1582
01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 1: But we haven't even talked about dome stadiums. Does that

1583
01:26:25,720 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 1: change the conversation at all? Without open air, you're not outside.

1584
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you're wearing masks anyway. But maybe it's too

1585
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 1: big to worry about anyway. But yeah, it's not Minnesota,

1586
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 1: New Orleans, Detroit, Detroit? What do you what do you

1587
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 1: do with those? Is it the same or does the

1588
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:47,400
Speaker 1: roof being on top change anything? I don't think it does,

1589
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:50,200
Speaker 1: but I'm not a medical expert. Should the NFL set

1590
01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 1: fan capacity limits to maintain maintain competitive equity? From Jason,

1591
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:56,840
Speaker 1: you see was what you get your you get what

1592
01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 1: your stadium allows. If they want everything to be fair,

1593
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:01,839
Speaker 1: they should man date every stadium to have the same capacity.

1594
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 1: He's right, it's the difference in the stadiums that we're

1595
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 1: actually really talking about. Even the percentages could vary, the

1596
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:12,639
Speaker 1: possible percentages could vary. And here's what will really come

1597
01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:15,960
Speaker 1: down to, Brownie and this. You know, when you get

1598
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 1: pragmatic about it, the NFL is going to maximize every

1599
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:23,360
Speaker 1: stadium and if they can squeeze another one hundred and

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01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:26,080
Speaker 1: fifty people into whatever stadium at whatever price, they're going

1601
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 1: to do it. So it's not going to be the

1602
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 1: same number all over the league. It's just like the

1603
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:33,560
Speaker 1: stadiums are different and the layouts are different. And the

1604
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:40,719
Speaker 1: question is does a stadium in say Jacksonville, that seats

1605
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:45,120
Speaker 1: fifty two thousand people, does it have the capacity or

1606
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:47,120
Speaker 1: the wherewithal I don't know how this would happen, but

1607
01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 1: it could. Does it have the capacity with fifty two

1608
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 1: thousand seats to seat twenty five thousand people separate than, say,

1609
01:27:57,560 --> 01:28:00,280
Speaker 1: even easier than a stadium as big as New Air

1610
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 1: of Field. That's where you get into the discrepancies. It

1611
01:28:02,439 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 1: Plus it's Florida, it's New York. It's the way their

1612
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:07,720
Speaker 1: stadiums laid out, and with all the suits that they

1613
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 1: have as compared to the stadium in Buffalo with the

1614
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 1: suits they have, And it's the COVID situation and where

1615
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:17,719
Speaker 1: it's respective counties exactly exactly. So they're going to maximize

1616
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 1: the number of people every week, week to week because

1617
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:22,519
Speaker 1: it it could change week to week in the NFL.

1618
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 1: They could all of a sudden shut off the faucet

1619
01:28:25,040 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 1: completely and say there's no stamp fans in the stands

1620
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 1: for the week of September or whatever, wet or October whatever, whatever.

1621
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 1: You know. They could always this is a fluid situation,

1622
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 1: I would think, and they'll stay that way right yeah,

1623
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:39,720
Speaker 1: and one that will be as always tied to the

1624
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 1: money and the revenue that could be generated there in

1625
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:45,680
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker Chris Brown. We're here till three o'clock. Coming

1626
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 1: up after the break. Mike Lombardi is the NFL writer

1627
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:51,720
Speaker 1: for The Atlantic. He hosts the GM Shuffle podcast on

1628
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 1: Radio dot com. He's a former Brown's general manager from

1629
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:56,920
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen or twenty and fourteen. He's going to join

1630
01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 1: us right after the break. It's a Steve Tasker and

1631
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:01,679
Speaker 1: Chris Brown on Buffalo Radio. We are presented by Kalidah

1632
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 1: Health and this is One Bill's Live. Oh A Great

1633
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 1: timele by Steve Taskers, dous Doe t do Time. Welcome

1634
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:30,040
Speaker 1: back to One Bill's Live Steve Tasker. Along with Chris Brown,

1635
01:29:30,160 --> 01:29:33,439
Speaker 1: we're talking about whether the NFL should set fan limits

1636
01:29:34,240 --> 01:29:36,840
Speaker 1: to seating capacity around in the National Football League when

1637
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:38,680
Speaker 1: the season does begin. But right now we're joined on

1638
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 1: the line by former general manager of the Cleveland Browns

1639
01:29:42,880 --> 01:29:45,720
Speaker 1: and also the host of the GM Shuffle podcast. He's

1640
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 1: also a writer for NFL uh dot for the Athletic.

1641
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:52,519
Speaker 1: His name's Michael Lombardi. My's Steve Tasker, Chris Brown here

1642
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:55,120
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. Thanks so much for joining us. First of all,

1643
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 1: how is the pandemic treating you? Is you and your

1644
01:29:57,439 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 1: are you and your family safe? And well? Yeah, you know, Chris, Steve,

1645
01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 1: you know we're doing well. I think you know. I'm

1646
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 1: in the southern part of New Jersey, which hasn't been hit,

1647
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 1: but I'm also in a beach community which has been

1648
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 1: really has doesn't You would not know the pandemic is

1649
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 1: in full force. The town's crowded, there's not many masks,

1650
01:30:19,560 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 1: and people are behaving as if nothing exists. So hopefully

1651
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 1: in a will game we get through the next two months. Well, Mike,

1652
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:29,519
Speaker 1: you've been a general manager in the National Football League.

1653
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:32,320
Speaker 1: You've seen what's happened here now and the projections for

1654
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 1: a salary cap that maybe in limbo and maybe even

1655
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:39,160
Speaker 1: contract for the first time in league history. How big

1656
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 1: a problem is this for a GM going forward who

1657
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 1: needs to get certain players signed because of the timing

1658
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 1: of their rookie contracts and what have you. But how

1659
01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:49,799
Speaker 1: big a problem is this going to be for clubs

1660
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:51,720
Speaker 1: going forward with a cap in the shape that it's

1661
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 1: in and probably going down maybe in the next year.

1662
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:57,680
Speaker 1: You know. I think that's why we haven't seen the

1663
01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:00,800
Speaker 1: Prescott deal. I think that's why that the on Watson deal,

1664
01:31:00,880 --> 01:31:03,360
Speaker 1: the Mahomes deal. I think there's such an uncertainty. We

1665
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:05,320
Speaker 1: haven't seen a lot of extensions in the off season,

1666
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 1: and typically we know the TV revenue money is going

1667
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:10,720
Speaker 1: to go up. So the reason that we haven't seen

1668
01:31:10,760 --> 01:31:12,560
Speaker 1: the extensions is because there is going to be a

1669
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:16,600
Speaker 1: six billion dollars deficit that occurs when teams are not

1670
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:19,360
Speaker 1: allowed to put people in the seats when there is

1671
01:31:19,400 --> 01:31:23,200
Speaker 1: going to be some form of revenue deficit next year.

1672
01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:26,160
Speaker 1: Because the lack of people coming to the games in

1673
01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:28,840
Speaker 1: some states. Now we know that today the commissioner or

1674
01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:31,519
Speaker 1: yesterday the commissioner rule that it's going to be dependent

1675
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:34,560
Speaker 1: upon states whether they come or not. My sense of

1676
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:37,200
Speaker 1: it is is I think that when you look at

1677
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:40,680
Speaker 1: this that revenue. One thing people don't always understand, and

1678
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:44,280
Speaker 1: Steve you can is because you played in the league,

1679
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:46,519
Speaker 1: you know you're a partner with the owner. Now you

1680
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:48,680
Speaker 1: may not feel like you're an equal partner, but there

1681
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:52,120
Speaker 1: is a partnership and whenever there's losses, partners share in

1682
01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 1: those losses. And because they share in those losses, next

1683
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:57,799
Speaker 1: year's cap is going to go down, and the teams

1684
01:31:57,840 --> 01:31:59,880
Speaker 1: like the Eagles, who are already fifty million over the cap,

1685
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:02,240
Speaker 1: next year we're going to have a harder time trying

1686
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:05,519
Speaker 1: to whittle it down. And next year's market is going

1687
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:09,880
Speaker 1: to be very team friendly, not player friendly. Do you think, though, Mike,

1688
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 1: that maybe a solution that benefits all parties involved could

1689
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 1: be maybe a so called smoothing of the salary cap

1690
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:22,559
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, where maybe you pull money from

1691
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:26,679
Speaker 1: future years into twenty twenty one and kind of flatten

1692
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:31,599
Speaker 1: the dip or reduce the dip so teams can actually

1693
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:35,920
Speaker 1: at least manage their finances. It's not a doomsday type

1694
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:39,400
Speaker 1: scenario next offseason. Oh, I definitely think they're going to

1695
01:32:39,479 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 1: have to do that. I think, Chris, there's no way

1696
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 1: that they're going to be able to just I mean

1697
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:46,880
Speaker 1: because if Schefter. I wrote this three weeks ago on

1698
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:49,439
Speaker 1: the Athletic and then then it came out again on

1699
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:52,720
Speaker 1: the NFL dot Com, and then Schefter reported that the

1700
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:56,439
Speaker 1: losses could be anywhere between thirty and eighty million next year.

1701
01:32:57,080 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 1: In my column, I anticipated thirty million to be that

1702
01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:03,639
Speaker 1: was the number. So you know, I think anything more

1703
01:33:03,720 --> 01:33:06,400
Speaker 1: than that is going to be problematic and it's going

1704
01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:09,719
Speaker 1: to be hard some teams like the Rams, as I mentioned,

1705
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:12,320
Speaker 1: the Eagles, the Cowboys who still don't have that. That's

1706
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:15,920
Speaker 1: why the whole Cowboy trading for Jamal Adams is the

1707
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 1: most ridiculous conversation. I talked about this on my podcast,

1708
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:22,080
Speaker 1: like you can't have all the players, like you just

1709
01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:25,040
Speaker 1: can't because the cap is going down. No one wants

1710
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:27,839
Speaker 1: to seem to be recognized this, but that's the business

1711
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 1: we're in. Michael Lombardi, a former GM of the Cleveland Browns.

1712
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:35,400
Speaker 1: I want to ask you a little bit about you

1713
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:38,120
Speaker 1: said twenty thirty million. You're talking about a drop in

1714
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:42,320
Speaker 1: the cap of how much they're INTI I mean schefter,

1715
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:45,519
Speaker 1: I said thirty million. Schefter reported it's going to be

1716
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:49,320
Speaker 1: anywhere between thirty and eighty million. You're talking about six

1717
01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:52,200
Speaker 1: billion of revenue, Steve, that's going to be removed from

1718
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:56,680
Speaker 1: the marketplace. That and the players are partners, and when

1719
01:33:56,720 --> 01:33:59,559
Speaker 1: you're a partner, you Sharon wins and you sharing losses.

1720
01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:02,800
Speaker 1: Now that TV revenue, I'm sure we'll go up, but

1721
01:34:03,160 --> 01:34:05,240
Speaker 1: you know, somebody's going to pay a price, and it's

1722
01:34:05,280 --> 01:34:06,800
Speaker 1: just not going to be the owners on the six

1723
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 1: billion that's lost. So Mike, how what do you kind

1724
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:18,439
Speaker 1: of see though in terms of wiggle room with respect

1725
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:21,679
Speaker 1: to the CBA. I mean, a perfect example is Dak Prescott.

1726
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 1: Now he signs his franchise tender, which kind of guarantees

1727
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:29,479
Speaker 1: him his thirty one this year. If obviously this is

1728
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:31,720
Speaker 1: kind of kind of prompt to the Cowboys to sign

1729
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:33,960
Speaker 1: into a long term deal to reduce his cap hit

1730
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:37,760
Speaker 1: not only this year but next year and beyond. But

1731
01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:40,439
Speaker 1: if that doesn't happen, you know, he's an example of

1732
01:34:40,840 --> 01:34:43,080
Speaker 1: he's got to get paid twenty percent more if they

1733
01:34:43,160 --> 01:34:45,760
Speaker 1: sign it to the tag again next year, and there's

1734
01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:48,479
Speaker 1: no way they can do that. So do you see

1735
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:53,760
Speaker 1: CBA language changing, if only for a year where maybe

1736
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 1: they reduced the twenty percent increase on a franchised player

1737
01:34:57,400 --> 01:34:59,519
Speaker 1: like that, or a case like I'm just wondering if

1738
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:02,120
Speaker 1: there's any wiggle room whatsoever, or the new CBA is

1739
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:05,599
Speaker 1: the new CBA. I think the new CBA is the CBA.

1740
01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:07,559
Speaker 1: And I think one of the reasons why we saw

1741
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:11,599
Speaker 1: that Dak Prescott signed his tender was exactly this reason.

1742
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:13,800
Speaker 1: It puts the pressure on mccowboys to do a deal,

1743
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:15,560
Speaker 1: a deal that they perhaps don't even want to do.

1744
01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 1: You know, it gives them because they're looking at what

1745
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 1: am I gonna do one twenty next year? And the

1746
01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:22,840
Speaker 1: other thing about Dak what people don't understand is Dak's

1747
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:26,080
Speaker 1: not going to sign a contract as long as Watson's

1748
01:35:26,120 --> 01:35:30,120
Speaker 1: out there not signed, as long as Patrick Mahomes, who

1749
01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:32,400
Speaker 1: he knows is going to make more. But the reality

1750
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 1: of it is is they don't want to be out

1751
01:35:34,920 --> 01:35:36,439
Speaker 1: of the ballpark. They want to be in the same

1752
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:40,960
Speaker 1: ballpark and the same Mahomes makes you know, forty one million. Well,

1753
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:43,680
Speaker 1: Dak's gonna want thirty eight million, He's gonna want thirty nine.

1754
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 1: He's gonna want to get as close to forty one

1755
01:35:45,439 --> 01:35:48,200
Speaker 1: as he can right now. You know, Jared Goffs at

1756
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:51,400
Speaker 1: thirty five. Russell Wilson's at thirty five. He wants to

1757
01:35:51,520 --> 01:35:56,360
Speaker 1: get past those guys. Mike Mike Lombardi former GM of

1758
01:35:56,400 --> 01:35:59,599
Speaker 1: the Browns. He's also the host of the GM Shuffle podcast, Mike,

1759
01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 1: how creative? Is there any more wiggle room in the

1760
01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:04,439
Speaker 1: CBA now than there has been in years past about

1761
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:08,639
Speaker 1: what teams can do to defer the payments, defer signing

1762
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:11,960
Speaker 1: bonuses and that kind of thing. Now, they haven't changed

1763
01:36:11,960 --> 01:36:14,320
Speaker 1: the deferment laws now. They raised that. They raised the

1764
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:19,080
Speaker 1: loan and loan ratio to teams because of what's going

1765
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:21,960
Speaker 1: on in Los Angeles. Remember that stadium has gone up

1766
01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 1: in cost and the debt ratio to be with teams.

1767
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:27,679
Speaker 1: They had to raise that because it protects the rams

1768
01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:30,720
Speaker 1: in that area. But there's been no real interest in

1769
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:33,720
Speaker 1: changing the deferment rules in the National Football League. They

1770
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:35,800
Speaker 1: go back to the nineteen sixties. They go back to

1771
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:39,120
Speaker 1: a time when they were in place to prevent teams

1772
01:36:39,520 --> 01:36:42,000
Speaker 1: from not being able to pay their players. You had

1773
01:36:42,040 --> 01:36:44,799
Speaker 1: to fund the money within a year if you've deferred

1774
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:47,360
Speaker 1: it out. And so it's really the tech Stepian rule,

1775
01:36:47,680 --> 01:36:49,880
Speaker 1: which was back when the Cavaliers when he tried to

1776
01:36:50,640 --> 01:36:53,320
Speaker 1: pay players with money that really didn't have. And so

1777
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:55,720
Speaker 1: the owners in the NFL all put a system in

1778
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:59,800
Speaker 1: place that assures they have liquidity in terms of being

1779
01:36:59,840 --> 01:37:01,760
Speaker 1: able to play the players because they got fun to

1780
01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:07,560
Speaker 1: money anywhere. Mike, you recently put a piece together on

1781
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:10,960
Speaker 1: the Athletic about you know, the GM Dezi every team's

1782
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:15,560
Speaker 1: obvious and non obvious questions for twenty twenty and for

1783
01:37:16,720 --> 01:37:19,920
Speaker 1: for the Bills, the obvious one is always turned too quickly,

1784
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:25,040
Speaker 1: which is Josh Allen and and his passing accuracy. I mean,

1785
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:27,519
Speaker 1: he did raise his completion percentage six and a half

1786
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:29,800
Speaker 1: almost six and a half percent last year, but still,

1787
01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 1: you know, his deep ball accuracy was sorely lacking. Is

1788
01:37:36,080 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 1: his answer to improving just simply that. I mean, his

1789
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:44,240
Speaker 1: short passing game improved last year, it was the deep

1790
01:37:44,280 --> 01:37:48,640
Speaker 1: ball that was the major problem. Is in your experience,

1791
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:52,280
Speaker 1: how easy to fix is that? I suppose every case

1792
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:55,240
Speaker 1: is different, but what has been your experience with quarterbacks

1793
01:37:55,280 --> 01:37:58,000
Speaker 1: that needed to fix that aspect of their game. I

1794
01:37:58,120 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 1: think anytime a quarterback has accuracy issues, it's like a golfer.

1795
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:03,160
Speaker 1: With a golf swing. You can work on and on

1796
01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:06,160
Speaker 1: the range, but when pressure comes into play and you've

1797
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:07,760
Speaker 1: got to speed up and you've got to handle the

1798
01:38:07,760 --> 01:38:10,920
Speaker 1: pressure of the moment, there's problems that set in. You know,

1799
01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:13,559
Speaker 1: Let's face it, Josh Allen was seven for fifty one

1800
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:16,439
Speaker 1: on throws over thirty yards last year in his career.

1801
01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:19,160
Speaker 1: Excuse me, in his career, he's seven for fifty one.

1802
01:38:19,400 --> 01:38:22,120
Speaker 1: He can't have that many long foul balls. Now, you know,

1803
01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:24,879
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind him be in fifty eight percent completion

1804
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:27,920
Speaker 1: percentage if he was averaging, you know, huge if he

1805
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 1: hit a couple of those deep throws. They have too

1806
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:32,840
Speaker 1: many long foul balls. That's got to improve. Because when

1807
01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:35,280
Speaker 1: you look at the Bills, they added Nariol Addison to

1808
01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 1: help him with the pass rush. You know, they draft

1809
01:38:37,439 --> 01:38:40,320
Speaker 1: aj Espinagh to help with the pass rush. If Jerry

1810
01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:42,560
Speaker 1: Hughes comes back and plays the way he's capable of,

1811
01:38:42,920 --> 01:38:46,040
Speaker 1: along with Trent Murphy and Vernon Butler's an unknown quantity.

1812
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:48,519
Speaker 1: He's a very talented player. They've got depth in the

1813
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:52,240
Speaker 1: defensive front. They're much better in the offensive line than

1814
01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:55,240
Speaker 1: they've been in years. They've got stability up front. Everything

1815
01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:57,320
Speaker 1: rides with Josh Allen. I mean, this is really this

1816
01:38:57,439 --> 01:39:01,040
Speaker 1: team should be, this team to be the favorite of

1817
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:04,800
Speaker 1: the East. But the residing question is Josh Allen. And

1818
01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:07,240
Speaker 1: you know, if you put Lamar Jackson in there instead

1819
01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:09,680
Speaker 1: up Josh Allen, they're probably the team that's going to

1820
01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:11,880
Speaker 1: be competing for the Super Bowl. But they've picked Josh

1821
01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:13,880
Speaker 1: Allen over Lamar and you're gonna have to deal with

1822
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:16,679
Speaker 1: some of these in accuracies. It happened in college. Remember

1823
01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:20,120
Speaker 1: coming out, Josh Allen was viewed as a quarterback, not

1824
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:22,599
Speaker 1: an athlete. Today he's viewed more as an athlete than

1825
01:39:22,640 --> 01:39:25,519
Speaker 1: a quarterback. And the other issue is he doesn't run

1826
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:28,400
Speaker 1: with it enough to really utilize his skill set. I

1827
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:30,639
Speaker 1: think that's the big question with the Bills. I love

1828
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:34,000
Speaker 1: the Bills team front the center. I would be easily

1829
01:39:34,040 --> 01:39:36,280
Speaker 1: support them to win the East, but I have real

1830
01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:38,400
Speaker 1: cool questions. You go back and watch that Patriot game

1831
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:41,320
Speaker 1: in New England. There guys opened in that game. From

1832
01:39:41,360 --> 01:39:43,639
Speaker 1: the last play of the game, all the way through

1833
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:46,519
Speaker 1: the game he just misses them. And in the second

1834
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:48,760
Speaker 1: half of the Houston game, he just misses them. And

1835
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:50,559
Speaker 1: we could all hope that he's going to get better

1836
01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:52,599
Speaker 1: at it, and I hope he does, But I yet

1837
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:56,240
Speaker 1: to see a quarterback really improved significantly his accuracy. It's

1838
01:39:56,240 --> 01:39:58,920
Speaker 1: a hard thing to do. And you talk about the

1839
01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:02,760
Speaker 1: Bills if Josh Allen plays better, and talk about the

1840
01:40:02,840 --> 01:40:04,880
Speaker 1: Bills competing for Super Bowl, the two teams in the

1841
01:40:05,000 --> 01:40:08,920
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, you know, the forty nine ers in the Chiefs,

1842
01:40:08,960 --> 01:40:11,960
Speaker 1: they seem to in some ways have gotten stronger. How

1843
01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:16,400
Speaker 1: much benefit do the Bills get from the loss of

1844
01:40:16,439 --> 01:40:18,280
Speaker 1: maybe the greatest quarterback of all the time at thirty

1845
01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:20,240
Speaker 1: eight year old Tom Brady going to the Tampa Bay

1846
01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:22,400
Speaker 1: You know, what about the rest of the East, the

1847
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:26,479
Speaker 1: AFC East, you know, and how that shakes out. How

1848
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:28,400
Speaker 1: much of a benefit will that be for the Jets,

1849
01:40:28,439 --> 01:40:30,360
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, and the Bills that Tom Brady's now in

1850
01:40:30,360 --> 01:40:33,479
Speaker 1: the NFC South. Well, we all have young quarterbacks, right,

1851
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:37,120
Speaker 1: everybody has a young quarterback. The Patriots if they signed

1852
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:40,120
Speaker 1: if they signed Cam Newton, they won't. But if they don't,

1853
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:44,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna go with Jarrett Stidham, young quarterbacks, Sam Darnold

1854
01:40:44,479 --> 01:40:46,880
Speaker 1: really talented, turns the ball over way too much, can't

1855
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:49,280
Speaker 1: stay healthy, and then two of down in Miami, is

1856
01:40:49,320 --> 01:40:51,639
Speaker 1: he going to be good enough? You guys know Chan's offense.

1857
01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:54,400
Speaker 1: We know Ryan Fitzpatrick will be able to start down

1858
01:40:54,479 --> 01:40:56,519
Speaker 1: there because he knows the offense as well as Chan

1859
01:40:56,680 --> 01:40:59,720
Speaker 1: does from his days in Buffalo and his days in

1860
01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:03,040
Speaker 1: in New York. So to me, it's it's open season.

1861
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:05,439
Speaker 1: I think if you just looked at the teams and

1862
01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:09,519
Speaker 1: say who has the most balanced team and the complete team,

1863
01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:12,920
Speaker 1: you would say the Bills. However, that being said, you've

1864
01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:15,160
Speaker 1: got a huge hole quarterback and can he make up

1865
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:17,160
Speaker 1: the difference? You know, and the schedule is going to

1866
01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:19,640
Speaker 1: get harder. It's going to be a lot tougher, you know.

1867
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:21,640
Speaker 1: It's it's going to be challenging, and they're not going

1868
01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:24,080
Speaker 1: to be taken lightly. But they've got to improve. I mean,

1869
01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:26,439
Speaker 1: twenty seventh in the league in passing yard, it's twenty

1870
01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:29,759
Speaker 1: twenty second in overall yards per attempt. If that yard's

1871
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:32,560
Speaker 1: per attempt doesn't get up into the top ten, we

1872
01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:34,760
Speaker 1: will not be talking about Buffalo being a super Bowl

1873
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:40,280
Speaker 1: team next year. Mike, what about you know, this whole

1874
01:41:40,520 --> 01:41:44,599
Speaker 1: situation with Colin Kaepernick. We know behind the scenes, even

1875
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:48,560
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, Commissioner Goodell was trying to

1876
01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:51,479
Speaker 1: find a way to get him back in the league,

1877
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:56,000
Speaker 1: get him an opportunity. He's even more public about it. Now.

1878
01:41:57,800 --> 01:42:00,719
Speaker 1: How realistic is it? Do you think with the current

1879
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:02,800
Speaker 1: climate that we're dealing with, it he gets that kind

1880
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:05,680
Speaker 1: of an opportunity. Well, he should. I mean, you know,

1881
01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:07,560
Speaker 1: when you watch some of the bad quarterbacks that have

1882
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:09,840
Speaker 1: played in the NFL last year's backups, you wonder how

1883
01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:12,280
Speaker 1: Kaepernick isn't better than that. But I think there's a

1884
01:42:12,760 --> 01:42:14,400
Speaker 1: there's a lot of layers to this, and some of

1885
01:42:14,439 --> 01:42:17,920
Speaker 1: them aren't really necessarily related to social issues. Some of

1886
01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:20,800
Speaker 1: them related to contract. You know, will he be willing

1887
01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:22,720
Speaker 1: to come in Let's say the Bills wanted to sign them,

1888
01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:24,439
Speaker 1: and say, is he going to be willing to come

1889
01:42:24,439 --> 01:42:26,679
Speaker 1: in and take a minimum contract to compete with Barkley,

1890
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:29,320
Speaker 1: Davis Webb and Jake from Is he willing to take

1891
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:31,040
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more than minimum, And is he

1892
01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:33,720
Speaker 1: willing to come in and compete for a backup job

1893
01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:35,719
Speaker 1: and not really have a chance to compete first starter.

1894
01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:38,960
Speaker 1: Those are all questions I can't answer. Only Colin Kaepernick

1895
01:42:39,000 --> 01:42:41,840
Speaker 1: can answer. I do think he'll get an opportunity when

1896
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:43,960
Speaker 1: I think he'll get asked those questions, and I think

1897
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:46,439
Speaker 1: his answers are going to depend on what he wants

1898
01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:49,400
Speaker 1: to do. You know, there was a time where Seattle

1899
01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:51,320
Speaker 1: and Pete Carroll's come out and confirm this that they

1900
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:53,559
Speaker 1: were very interested. I think they really had a hard

1901
01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:55,880
Speaker 1: time getting their hands around a contract or what they're

1902
01:42:55,920 --> 01:42:58,599
Speaker 1: going to do. But I do anticipate the team signing them.

1903
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:00,479
Speaker 1: I don't know what the deal will look like. I

1904
01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:03,400
Speaker 1: don't know what his appetite is for going in and

1905
01:43:03,479 --> 01:43:06,560
Speaker 1: competing because the last time we saw Colin play, he

1906
01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:10,200
Speaker 1: wasn't very good. But that being said, he's still better

1907
01:43:10,280 --> 01:43:12,280
Speaker 1: than some of the guys who played quarterback last year

1908
01:43:12,280 --> 01:43:17,160
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Michael Lombardi of the Athletic

1909
01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:19,360
Speaker 1: on with US now former gym of the Cleveland Browns.

1910
01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:24,000
Speaker 1: Did the pandemic hurt anybody more than it hurt Cam Newton?

1911
01:43:24,120 --> 01:43:26,800
Speaker 1: It seems to me he's good enough to play, and

1912
01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:29,080
Speaker 1: the fact that he couldn't get a physical to convince

1913
01:43:29,160 --> 01:43:32,400
Speaker 1: teams his shoulder is healthy is really the real reason

1914
01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:35,960
Speaker 1: he is not signed by anybody because now everybody's kind

1915
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:38,680
Speaker 1: of set at quarterback and they don't want to bring

1916
01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:40,160
Speaker 1: a guy in to compete for the start or a

1917
01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:42,080
Speaker 1: lot of teams don't want him to compete Or is

1918
01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:45,120
Speaker 1: it something else about Cam Newton that has kept him

1919
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:48,400
Speaker 1: from being signed thus far. No, I think it's really

1920
01:43:48,479 --> 01:43:50,800
Speaker 1: the pandemic hurt him. I think that the uncertainly about

1921
01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:53,360
Speaker 1: the foot, the uncertainly about the shoulder. He's still to

1922
01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:55,360
Speaker 1: me a top ten quarterback. Like when I look at

1923
01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:57,559
Speaker 1: teams and you know, you put Cam on the bills

1924
01:43:57,600 --> 01:43:59,800
Speaker 1: for example, Oh, all of a sudden, you know, now

1925
01:43:59,880 --> 01:44:03,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying, hey, you got a real chance MVP player,

1926
01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:05,200
Speaker 1: big physical guy, can do a lot of things with

1927
01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:08,200
Speaker 1: the football. You know. The problem with Cam is a

1928
01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:10,960
Speaker 1: the physical and two some teams don't want to bring

1929
01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:13,400
Speaker 1: him in because they know he'll start, and teams have

1930
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:16,320
Speaker 1: an agenda. Let's take the Bears for example. You know

1931
01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:18,840
Speaker 1: the Bears signed Nick trade for Nick Foles, take on

1932
01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:21,800
Speaker 1: a seventeen million dollars guaranteed contract. They spread it out

1933
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:25,519
Speaker 1: over three years, but they still took it on. But

1934
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:27,519
Speaker 1: if they would have traded for Cam Newton. They could

1935
01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:30,880
Speaker 1: have traded for basically nothing to get Cam. Cam walks

1936
01:44:30,920 --> 01:44:32,559
Speaker 1: in that locker room. Who do you think the team's

1937
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:35,040
Speaker 1: gonna thinks the starter? So doubt they're gonna think Cam.

1938
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:37,439
Speaker 1: You know, you put Cam in Denver. Do you think

1939
01:44:37,479 --> 01:44:40,720
Speaker 1: Drew locks the starter after? They want? No chance? You know,

1940
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:43,000
Speaker 1: So some teams have to play through it. You bring

1941
01:44:43,080 --> 01:44:45,559
Speaker 1: Cam the Buffalo, You think the team's not gonna think

1942
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:48,080
Speaker 1: he's better than Josh Allen. Of course they are. You

1943
01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:50,400
Speaker 1: gotta want MVP in the league. Guy can do a

1944
01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:52,840
Speaker 1: lot of things. He's a top tad quarterback right now,

1945
01:44:53,439 --> 01:44:56,240
Speaker 1: you know, and that's coming assuming he's healthy. So a

1946
01:44:56,360 --> 01:44:59,559
Speaker 1: lot of circumstances teams that are evaluating their own team,

1947
01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:01,240
Speaker 1: they'll wall She used to say this all the time.

1948
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:04,040
Speaker 1: The NFL gives you a great opportunity to improve if

1949
01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:06,960
Speaker 1: you're willing to take advantage of it. Some teams just aren't.

1950
01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:10,120
Speaker 1: Some teams are convinced their players so good that they're

1951
01:45:10,160 --> 01:45:12,599
Speaker 1: just going to stay where the courses and they don't

1952
01:45:12,640 --> 01:45:15,080
Speaker 1: want competition. They say they do, but they really don't.

1953
01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:19,000
Speaker 1: When Jacksonville, you know, garden him into a wonderful kids

1954
01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:22,040
Speaker 1: sixth round draft. A great story, But seriously, you think

1955
01:45:22,040 --> 01:45:23,920
Speaker 1: if Cam Newton was in that locker room, he wouldn't

1956
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:26,000
Speaker 1: be the start off for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Of course

1957
01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:29,560
Speaker 1: he will. Mike Lennon's the backup. Mike Lennon. You know,

1958
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:32,920
Speaker 1: Mike Lennon struggles to play in any system, and yet

1959
01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:35,760
Speaker 1: he's the backup there. Kaepernick would look at that and say, well,

1960
01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:39,920
Speaker 1: I'm better than Mike Lennon. Who could argue? So, Mike?

1961
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:44,200
Speaker 1: With this unusual offseason that we've had with the pandemic,

1962
01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:49,400
Speaker 1: how much of a disadvantage are these first year head

1963
01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:52,840
Speaker 1: coaches in knowing they really haven't had a chance to

1964
01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 1: institute their systems of play in the OTA setting or

1965
01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:01,120
Speaker 1: the mini camp setting, and you know, they really haven't

1966
01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:05,320
Speaker 1: even met in person with a lot of their players. Yeah,

1967
01:46:05,479 --> 01:46:08,559
Speaker 1: how much does that set them back when these teams

1968
01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 1: come back to training camp and then for the twenty

1969
01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:13,759
Speaker 1: twenty season. Oh, I think it's gonna be really a challenge.

1970
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:15,679
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you're gonna have to build your culture.

1971
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:17,599
Speaker 1: You haven't had a chance to build that. You can't

1972
01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:20,360
Speaker 1: build culture over zoom calls. You're gonna have to build

1973
01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:22,240
Speaker 1: your culture. You're gonna have to get the team in condition.

1974
01:46:22,280 --> 01:46:24,320
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to deal with some problems that you

1975
01:46:24,439 --> 01:46:26,920
Speaker 1: probably could have worked out in the spring that you're

1976
01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 1: gonna have to face now when it's crunch time. And

1977
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:30,800
Speaker 1: I really think we're not going to have much of

1978
01:46:30,880 --> 01:46:33,160
Speaker 1: a preseason. We're not gonna have preseason games to work

1979
01:46:33,200 --> 01:46:35,400
Speaker 1: the kinks out because I think that's really not the

1980
01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:37,200
Speaker 1: smart thing to do. I think we need to be

1981
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:42,120
Speaker 1: able to get into right away, get right into the office,

1982
01:46:42,160 --> 01:46:44,080
Speaker 1: were great into the regular season, because we don't want

1983
01:46:44,080 --> 01:46:46,880
Speaker 1: to risk losing the season. So I think it's really

1984
01:46:46,920 --> 01:46:52,280
Speaker 1: a challenge we're going with Michael Lombardi and Mike one

1985
01:46:52,360 --> 01:46:54,680
Speaker 1: last question before we let you go, in order to

1986
01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:56,960
Speaker 1: think the big change this year has been Tom Brady

1987
01:46:57,040 --> 01:46:58,720
Speaker 1: going down to the NFC South and playing for the

1988
01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:01,200
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They should have a good roster. He

1989
01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:04,559
Speaker 1: should have landed in a spot with Bruce Arians who's

1990
01:47:04,560 --> 01:47:06,840
Speaker 1: accepted as a quarterback whisper. He's done up before with

1991
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:12,160
Speaker 1: guys like Kurt Warner, with Carson Palmer. How is it

1992
01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:14,719
Speaker 1: going to go well for Tom Brady away from New England?

1993
01:47:14,800 --> 01:47:17,440
Speaker 1: How do you think the Bucks will really handle this transition,

1994
01:47:17,520 --> 01:47:22,400
Speaker 1: and how do you think it's gonna go in Tampa Bay. Well, look,

1995
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:24,479
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I love Tom and you know

1996
01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:26,479
Speaker 1: I've won two Super Bowls with Tomm. I have great,

1997
01:47:26,600 --> 01:47:29,840
Speaker 1: great respect. I think this offense that he's walking into

1998
01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:32,439
Speaker 1: is completely different than the one he just left. You know,

1999
01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:35,160
Speaker 1: Bruce is not about protecting the quarterback. I think when

2000
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:38,439
Speaker 1: you look at Jameis Winston's numbers, they were sensational in

2001
01:47:38,560 --> 01:47:41,000
Speaker 1: terms of yards turned the ball over. He was one

2002
01:47:41,080 --> 01:47:44,800
Speaker 1: point eight percent higher in his turnovers interception rating than

2003
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:46,280
Speaker 1: he's ever been in his career. It was almost an

2004
01:47:46,280 --> 01:47:49,360
Speaker 1: admiration year for Jamis. Now some of it's on Jamis,

2005
01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:50,640
Speaker 1: some of some of what they want to do, they

2006
01:47:50,680 --> 01:47:52,439
Speaker 1: want to make They want to take chances. You know,

2007
01:47:52,520 --> 01:47:55,080
Speaker 1: as Bruce rode in his book Quarterback Whisper, No Biscuit,

2008
01:47:55,160 --> 01:47:58,280
Speaker 1: No Chances. You know, we're going to take chances, and

2009
01:47:58,439 --> 01:48:01,000
Speaker 1: Tom's going to take a chance guy. Tom's a very

2010
01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:03,479
Speaker 1: methodical go throw the ball of the open guy. Want

2011
01:48:03,479 --> 01:48:05,400
Speaker 1: to let him run with it after the catch. It's

2012
01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:07,440
Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see and I think ultimately,

2013
01:48:07,960 --> 01:48:11,160
Speaker 1: when you sign a marquee player like this, the rest

2014
01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:13,519
Speaker 1: of the team has a sense around them that, well

2015
01:48:13,560 --> 01:48:15,880
Speaker 1: we got Tom, we don't have to work nearly as hard.

2016
01:48:16,200 --> 01:48:18,800
Speaker 1: But in reality they've better working even harder, and I

2017
01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:20,800
Speaker 1: think that's the challenge for Tampa. We'll find out how

2018
01:48:20,840 --> 01:48:24,120
Speaker 1: good they are on defense. Mike, thanks so much for

2019
01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:25,800
Speaker 1: spending some time with us. I hope you and your

2020
01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:27,839
Speaker 1: family stay safe and well the rest of the pandemic

2021
01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:30,200
Speaker 1: and as it winds down. Thanks so much for coming

2022
01:48:30,240 --> 01:48:35,240
Speaker 1: on with us. Michael Lombardi former general manager of the

2023
01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:38,640
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. He also hosts the Gem Shuffle podcast and

2024
01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:41,439
Speaker 1: he writes for the Athletic Steve Tasker Chris Brown. Here

2025
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Speaker 1: with you until three o'clock. We're gonna take a break.

2026
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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Chris Brown. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio, brought

2027
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Speaker 1: to you by Kalidah Health, and this is One Bill's Live.

2028
01:48:58,479 --> 01:49:02,240
Speaker 1: Welcome back one Live. The NFL set fan capacity limits

2029
01:49:02,240 --> 01:49:05,679
Speaker 1: to maintain competitive equity. We're asking our fans to call

2030
01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:08,000
Speaker 1: in and talk to us about that or tweet at

2031
01:49:08,080 --> 01:49:10,120
Speaker 1: us at One Bills Live. You can give us a

2032
01:49:10,160 --> 01:49:11,880
Speaker 1: call at eight oh three oh five fifty or one

2033
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Speaker 1: eighty eight five fifty two five fifty. We've got a

2034
01:49:14,479 --> 01:49:18,160
Speaker 1: call from Quinton In, Clarence Quintin, Steve Tasker, and Chris

2035
01:49:18,280 --> 01:49:20,840
Speaker 1: Brown here at One Bills Live. You're on with us.

2036
01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:23,880
Speaker 1: What's on your mind? Hey, guys, all right, thanks for

2037
01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:26,680
Speaker 1: taking my clo. I don't know if this has been

2038
01:49:26,760 --> 01:49:29,680
Speaker 1: talked about yet. It's just the idea I had. So

2039
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:32,200
Speaker 1: instead of the guys coming in these Giants stadiums and

2040
01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:34,960
Speaker 1: worried about capacity all that stuff, what have they just

2041
01:49:35,200 --> 01:49:38,160
Speaker 1: simply played at the practice fields they were at kind

2042
01:49:38,200 --> 01:49:40,320
Speaker 1: of retrofitting so that we don't to worry about artificial

2043
01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:43,280
Speaker 1: crowd noise stuff like that. That's just an idea I had.

2044
01:49:43,560 --> 01:49:44,720
Speaker 1: So now I'll just hang off and listen to what

2045
01:49:44,720 --> 01:49:48,120
Speaker 1: you gotta say. Yeah, it's an interesting point, Quintin, because Brownie,

2046
01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:50,559
Speaker 1: you know this. There's a bunch of facilities. Almost every

2047
01:49:50,680 --> 01:49:52,720
Speaker 1: NFL team has one. Now, I know the Jets do,

2048
01:49:52,880 --> 01:49:58,280
Speaker 1: the Giants do, the Buffalo Bills do, the Indianapolis Colts do?

2049
01:49:59,560 --> 01:50:01,920
Speaker 1: They all have the facilities where they could play a

2050
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:04,320
Speaker 1: game indoors at the practice field right now. The Bills

2051
01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:06,040
Speaker 1: could certainly play one in the field house and you

2052
01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:08,559
Speaker 1: could punt and do everything in there. All you gotta

2053
01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:11,320
Speaker 1: do set the cameras up. It keeps the bubble type.

2054
01:50:11,360 --> 01:50:13,599
Speaker 1: Why go over to the stadium if there's nobody, if

2055
01:50:13,600 --> 01:50:15,559
Speaker 1: there's not going to be any fans in the stands anyway,

2056
01:50:16,360 --> 01:50:20,160
Speaker 1: why not? That's aid question. I would think the broadcast

2057
01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:22,800
Speaker 1: partners might have something to say about that. Knowing that

2058
01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:27,759
Speaker 1: everything's wired the way it should be, running cable lines,

2059
01:50:27,840 --> 01:50:30,760
Speaker 1: all of that stuff, I think the networks might have

2060
01:50:30,840 --> 01:50:34,160
Speaker 1: something to say about that. To try to retrofit their

2061
01:50:34,200 --> 01:50:38,360
Speaker 1: operation to a fieldhouse that's considerably smaller than a stadium,

2062
01:50:38,840 --> 01:50:41,680
Speaker 1: where are we mounting our cameras, who's running cameras? Do

2063
01:50:41,800 --> 01:50:44,200
Speaker 1: we have room to run a sideline camera on a truck?

2064
01:50:46,479 --> 01:50:51,599
Speaker 1: I think all of those logistics may render that not feasible.

2065
01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:54,840
Speaker 1: I think they almost have better camera access. You think

2066
01:50:54,840 --> 01:50:58,240
Speaker 1: about the Bills fieldhouse. They could put their eight cameras

2067
01:50:58,720 --> 01:51:01,439
Speaker 1: in that joint and put put them all the way

2068
01:51:01,479 --> 01:51:03,920
Speaker 1: around the buildings, so you could have different angles, and

2069
01:51:04,080 --> 01:51:06,519
Speaker 1: plus two handhelds that's you always have. You could do

2070
01:51:06,600 --> 01:51:10,599
Speaker 1: it with less cameras inside. Plus the stadiums are already wired.

2071
01:51:10,640 --> 01:51:13,439
Speaker 1: Only they could do is plug in play. That's pretty

2072
01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:16,080
Speaker 1: much done. You're right about that, But when you're talking

2073
01:51:16,120 --> 01:51:18,960
Speaker 1: about in particularly, think about this, Brownie. If you've got

2074
01:51:19,080 --> 01:51:22,880
Speaker 1: Jim Nance and Tony Romo sitting in a studio in

2075
01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:25,479
Speaker 1: Jersey doing the stadi doing the games, what do they

2076
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:29,080
Speaker 1: care where the game is played? And it will be different.

2077
01:51:29,160 --> 01:51:32,320
Speaker 1: It'll be very difficult for the for the director because

2078
01:51:32,439 --> 01:51:35,720
Speaker 1: he'll have camera angles, some of them better than ever

2079
01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:37,880
Speaker 1: that he's got to deal with a no when to

2080
01:51:38,040 --> 01:51:40,200
Speaker 1: use and how to use. That'll be the real question.

2081
01:51:40,280 --> 01:51:43,120
Speaker 1: But I think some of these buildings are set up

2082
01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:48,560
Speaker 1: perfectly for having games without fans, and it'd be an

2083
01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:51,240
Speaker 1: enclosed area. You wouldn't have anybody in there. It'd be

2084
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:55,720
Speaker 1: silent in some places. Not every NFL city, but most

2085
01:51:55,840 --> 01:51:58,439
Speaker 1: NFL cities would probably make a pretty be a good idea.

2086
01:51:59,040 --> 01:52:02,040
Speaker 1: You're a pretty good idea. I wonder how the booth

2087
01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:05,240
Speaker 1: officials and everybody wanting to radio back to New York

2088
01:52:05,320 --> 01:52:08,200
Speaker 1: do all of that for questionable calls. You have the

2089
01:52:08,240 --> 01:52:11,559
Speaker 1: booth official, you have a replay person. Are they going

2090
01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:13,120
Speaker 1: to go sit over in the stadium and you just

2091
01:52:13,240 --> 01:52:15,360
Speaker 1: run the cable line out to them and they're not

2092
01:52:15,479 --> 01:52:18,479
Speaker 1: watching the game live? Interesting? I don't know. I don't

2093
01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:20,560
Speaker 1: know if you good. There's a lot of there's a

2094
01:52:20,600 --> 01:52:23,600
Speaker 1: lot more than just the game and nine cameras or

2095
01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:27,240
Speaker 1: whatever you have. So I just think to the league, yeah,

2096
01:52:27,280 --> 01:52:30,040
Speaker 1: there's a lot of extra elements there that I don't

2097
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:32,920
Speaker 1: know if we've even come close to running down the

2098
01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:37,680
Speaker 1: whole list of responsibilities that everybody's got to help make

2099
01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:41,799
Speaker 1: a game happen. So I think it's an interesting concept.

2100
01:52:41,880 --> 01:52:44,120
Speaker 1: I just don't know how feasible it is. Yeah, because

2101
01:52:44,120 --> 01:52:46,479
Speaker 1: you think about Brownie. Most people don't realize this. You've

2102
01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:50,040
Speaker 1: got on field officials. You've got officials up in the booth,

2103
01:52:50,600 --> 01:52:52,760
Speaker 1: there's a press box, everybody's in their own little room.

2104
01:52:52,880 --> 01:52:55,599
Speaker 1: Those rooms would not exist in those field houses. Plus

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Speaker 1: you've got frequency coordinators, you've got on field microphone equipment.

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01:53:04,479 --> 01:53:06,640
Speaker 1: You wouldn't have a cart cam. Nobody's got room for

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01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:09,439
Speaker 1: a cardcam in these buildings. Your bench area is pretty

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01:53:09,479 --> 01:53:12,000
Speaker 1: much Buffalo's got a field house that's set up where

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01:53:12,040 --> 01:53:14,320
Speaker 1: you have both bench areas. That kind of stuff for

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01:53:14,400 --> 01:53:17,559
Speaker 1: the guys on the field and the officials would probably

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01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:19,439
Speaker 1: be pretty easy, but everybody else would be up on

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01:53:19,479 --> 01:53:22,720
Speaker 1: a catwalk right kind of leaning over. You'd be right

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01:53:22,760 --> 01:53:26,400
Speaker 1: over the top of the field. And for the booth officials. Man,

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01:53:26,439 --> 01:53:27,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if you could set that up. That's

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01:53:28,120 --> 01:53:29,720
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of things that go into it.

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01:53:30,200 --> 01:53:32,599
Speaker 1: The game itself, Yeah, no question. You can go out

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01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:34,720
Speaker 1: there and run a scrimmage. You can run a game two.

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01:53:35,200 --> 01:53:37,360
Speaker 1: But for all the outside the line stuff and the

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01:53:37,400 --> 01:53:40,679
Speaker 1: broadcast and the officiating stuff, that's another issue that you'd

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01:53:40,720 --> 01:53:45,120
Speaker 1: have to tackle, right. Yeah, So let's go back to

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01:53:45,160 --> 01:53:46,920
Speaker 1: the tweets. You who are you up to? Ronnie? Here?

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01:53:47,160 --> 01:53:49,680
Speaker 1: We are up to Ronnie. Should the NFL set fan

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01:53:49,760 --> 01:53:53,760
Speaker 1: capacity limits to maintain competitive equity? So Ronnie says, I

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01:53:53,880 --> 01:53:57,519
Speaker 1: went with C. It's simple. Teams with larger capacity and

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01:53:57,640 --> 01:54:00,920
Speaker 1: theory already have that advantage. They weren't asked to reduce

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01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:04,160
Speaker 1: the number of tickets in years past. Why start now?

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01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:07,560
Speaker 1: And I think again, and we can't include all this

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01:54:07,680 --> 01:54:12,320
Speaker 1: when we ask a Twitter poll question. But the counties

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01:54:13,400 --> 01:54:16,160
Speaker 1: that the stadium sit in are going to have a

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01:54:16,280 --> 01:54:19,200
Speaker 1: great deal of influence as to how many fans are

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01:54:19,240 --> 01:54:21,880
Speaker 1: going to be allowed in the stands. It's not necessar

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01:54:22,200 --> 01:54:24,680
Speaker 1: And I know we presented it as an NFL proposal

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01:54:26,200 --> 01:54:28,800
Speaker 1: and they will have some say in it. I think

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01:54:28,840 --> 01:54:32,440
Speaker 1: it ultimately lies with what the protocols are at that

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01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:36,040
Speaker 1: time in that respective county, what phase of reopening they're in.

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01:54:37,840 --> 01:54:41,520
Speaker 1: So there are a lot of entities that are going

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01:54:41,560 --> 01:54:44,000
Speaker 1: to have input into that if it gets if it

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01:54:44,080 --> 01:54:46,040
Speaker 1: even gets to a point where fans are allowed to

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01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:48,400
Speaker 1: sit in the stands, right and there's and we've heard

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01:54:48,440 --> 01:54:51,320
Speaker 1: this a couple of times also from Buffalo Yard. He says, Okay,

2141
01:54:51,360 --> 01:54:53,120
Speaker 1: so what about the people out of town going to

2142
01:54:53,240 --> 01:54:56,000
Speaker 1: Bill's games. It's a joke. It should be fans discretion.

2143
01:54:56,400 --> 01:54:59,480
Speaker 1: This is what's going on. Use common sense. No one's

2144
01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:02,080
Speaker 1: being four to attend. No, it's not about people being

2145
01:55:02,160 --> 01:55:06,360
Speaker 1: forced to attend. It's about certain people being told not

2146
01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:10,880
Speaker 1: to attend, being disallowed, Yeah, being disallowed. You don't want

2147
01:55:10,920 --> 01:55:13,880
Speaker 1: people who have the virus come into the game, but

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01:55:14,480 --> 01:55:17,520
Speaker 1: they will. They will. That's just the way it's going

2149
01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:19,920
Speaker 1: to be. You're gonna have some knucklehead who is a

2150
01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:23,560
Speaker 1: you know, has been their belief system that they can

2151
01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:25,880
Speaker 1: do whatever they want, no matter what, and they go

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01:55:26,040 --> 01:55:28,480
Speaker 1: in and they and they blow a hole in the

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01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:32,480
Speaker 1: entire bubble and bring the whole season to a screeching hole.

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01:55:32,560 --> 01:55:34,800
Speaker 1: You'll have, you know, on any given if there's seventy

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01:55:34,840 --> 01:55:37,640
Speaker 1: thousand people in the stadium, Brownie, you know there's gonna

2156
01:55:37,640 --> 01:55:39,320
Speaker 1: be one hundred and fifty of them who don't care

2157
01:55:39,320 --> 01:55:41,080
Speaker 1: about any of this stuff, and they'll come walking in

2158
01:55:41,200 --> 01:55:44,520
Speaker 1: with a fever and a cough. They don't care, Right,

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01:55:44,840 --> 01:55:47,480
Speaker 1: that's what you're worried about, and then create a title

2160
01:55:47,520 --> 01:55:50,760
Speaker 1: wave of infection. That's right. And and Western New York's

2161
01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:54,840
Speaker 1: back into lockdown. That's really what this fan capacity thing

2162
01:55:54,960 --> 01:55:58,000
Speaker 1: is all about. And it'll come down to the powers

2163
01:55:58,080 --> 01:56:00,960
Speaker 1: that be in the counties and the stadium authorities that

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01:56:01,240 --> 01:56:03,360
Speaker 1: will step in and make these policies. What do you

2165
01:56:03,400 --> 01:56:05,760
Speaker 1: think about Jason's take on this? This is interesting. If

2166
01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:09,280
Speaker 1: one state takes the pandemic seriously and another state doesn't,

2167
01:56:09,960 --> 01:56:12,840
Speaker 1: the state that earned having larger gatherings should get to

2168
01:56:12,880 --> 01:56:15,560
Speaker 1: have a bigger crowd. The only problem with this is

2169
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:18,240
Speaker 1: it's the idiot states that will probably be idiots about

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01:56:18,240 --> 01:56:23,840
Speaker 1: setting their NFL capacities too high. That's dead odd from Jason. Well,

2171
01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:29,840
Speaker 1: there you go. That's well, yeah, you're gonna have you're

2172
01:56:29,880 --> 01:56:33,720
Speaker 1: gonna have people that don't act responsibly. I mean, the

2173
01:56:33,800 --> 01:56:36,640
Speaker 1: governor in South Carolina still isn't mandating that people wear

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01:56:36,760 --> 01:56:41,520
Speaker 1: masks down there, still won't mandate it. Yeah, now there

2175
01:56:41,560 --> 01:56:43,400
Speaker 1: you go. And I'll tell you this too. And there

2176
01:56:43,440 --> 01:56:46,960
Speaker 1: are a spike state. Surprise, surprise, there's a ton of

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01:56:47,000 --> 01:56:51,000
Speaker 1: spike states now. And and I don't even know, Brownie,

2178
01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:55,839
Speaker 1: if you can, if you can categorize the spike states

2179
01:56:56,400 --> 01:56:59,240
Speaker 1: as states that are had actually headed into a second wave,

2180
01:56:59,320 --> 01:57:01,720
Speaker 1: that's not it. I mean, they still haven't gotten over

2181
01:57:01,800 --> 01:57:04,120
Speaker 1: this first wave. They kind of took a step back

2182
01:57:04,160 --> 01:57:06,240
Speaker 1: when they started to open up. They just got fed

2183
01:57:06,360 --> 01:57:08,560
Speaker 1: up with it. And we can go on and on

2184
01:57:08,600 --> 01:57:11,440
Speaker 1: about this, Brownie about people and the weather. The weather

2185
01:57:11,520 --> 01:57:15,200
Speaker 1: got nice here in Buffalo, and it's continued. The cases

2186
01:57:15,200 --> 01:57:18,240
Speaker 1: of continue to drop even when the weather's nice. You

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01:57:18,320 --> 01:57:20,680
Speaker 1: get people, and I've said this a long time, Brownie,

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01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:23,840
Speaker 1: Buffalo is not for everybody, but it is for people

2189
01:57:23,920 --> 01:57:30,280
Speaker 1: who whose happiness doesn't center around the weather. Right. You

2190
01:57:30,360 --> 01:57:33,240
Speaker 1: get people in the South, they gotta they feel like

2191
01:57:33,280 --> 01:57:34,680
Speaker 1: they got a right to be out in it. They

2192
01:57:34,760 --> 01:57:37,440
Speaker 1: just go. They don't care, you know, they don't care.

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01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:42,040
Speaker 1: You know, they're gonna they it's in. They can't be happy,

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01:57:42,880 --> 01:57:44,880
Speaker 1: you know, you just they can't be happy unless they're

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01:57:44,880 --> 01:57:46,680
Speaker 1: out and about and they feel like that, all right

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01:57:46,720 --> 01:57:49,160
Speaker 1: to it. Yeah, we don't. I guess we don't do

2197
01:57:49,240 --> 01:57:51,280
Speaker 1: that here in Buffalo as much, right, I don't know.

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01:57:51,480 --> 01:57:54,360
Speaker 1: We We still continue to be locked down, no question

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01:57:54,400 --> 01:57:56,640
Speaker 1: about it is. The economics of it is gonna hurt,

2200
01:57:56,800 --> 01:57:59,880
Speaker 1: hurt a lot of small businesses. But every state's gonna

2201
01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:03,400
Speaker 1: treat it differently, and people within those states are gonna

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01:58:03,400 --> 01:58:05,520
Speaker 1: treat it differently. And you put seventy thousand people in

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01:58:05,600 --> 01:58:08,080
Speaker 1: a stadium, you're gonna get some knuckleheads, just like you

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01:58:08,160 --> 01:58:13,000
Speaker 1: do when there's no pandemic. True. All right, I've had

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01:58:13,120 --> 01:58:16,160
Speaker 1: enough about the pandemic today. Let's let's do some true

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01:58:16,200 --> 01:58:18,720
Speaker 1: false all right. NFL true false, brought to you by

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01:58:18,840 --> 01:58:21,960
Speaker 1: Yancey's Fancy Yancey's Fancy New York's artists and Cheese. Here

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01:58:22,000 --> 01:58:25,440
Speaker 1: we go first. NFL true false. Adrian Peterson can play

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Speaker 1: for four more years in the National Football League. This

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01:58:28,240 --> 01:58:30,920
Speaker 1: just in. He's thirty five, and he turned thirty five

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01:58:31,160 --> 01:58:35,320
Speaker 1: in March, so he'll be thirty nine at the time

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01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:38,040
Speaker 1: he plays his last year. If he plays four more years,

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01:58:38,120 --> 01:58:45,320
Speaker 1: he's thirty five. Now, look, Adrian Peterson is a freak

2214
01:58:45,360 --> 01:58:47,520
Speaker 1: of nature. I will not debate that for a second.

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01:58:48,160 --> 01:58:53,360
Speaker 1: He is the top one percent of athletes even in

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01:58:53,440 --> 01:58:58,480
Speaker 1: the National Football League, which is saying something. But I'm

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01:58:58,560 --> 01:59:03,200
Speaker 1: sorry thought other Time is undefeated and at the running

2218
01:59:03,240 --> 01:59:06,280
Speaker 1: back position. There's no way he's getting four more years.

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01:59:06,480 --> 01:59:11,080
Speaker 1: I think he's getting one, maybe two tops, and that's

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01:59:11,120 --> 01:59:13,280
Speaker 1: only because he was the freak of nature that he was.

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01:59:14,360 --> 01:59:17,080
Speaker 1: There's no way he's doing four years. No way. Yeah,

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01:59:17,160 --> 01:59:20,160
Speaker 1: father Time. Father Time is undefeated and even if you

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01:59:20,280 --> 01:59:25,920
Speaker 1: take him to overtime, you're gonna lose. And Peterson said this,

2224
01:59:26,040 --> 01:59:28,800
Speaker 1: he goes, why not four more years? Why not? I

2225
01:59:28,960 --> 01:59:30,920
Speaker 1: want I don't ever want to be in a position

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01:59:31,040 --> 01:59:33,080
Speaker 1: where I look back and say, man I should have

2227
01:59:33,160 --> 01:59:36,040
Speaker 1: played two more years, or I should have played another year.

2228
01:59:36,440 --> 01:59:38,960
Speaker 1: I want to enjoy it. I'm still chasing a championship.

2229
01:59:39,520 --> 01:59:41,320
Speaker 1: You know. I can still play the game at a

2230
01:59:41,400 --> 01:59:44,120
Speaker 1: high level, and for those reasons and having the love

2231
01:59:44,200 --> 01:59:45,800
Speaker 1: and passion for the game, I'm going to continue to

2232
01:59:45,920 --> 01:59:49,400
Speaker 1: keep the ball rolling. That's not the point, Adrian Peterson.

2233
01:59:49,560 --> 01:59:52,440
Speaker 1: It's still going to take something called ability. Here's the thing.

2234
01:59:52,560 --> 01:59:54,560
Speaker 1: It's not about being in a position. You don't want

2235
01:59:54,560 --> 01:59:56,280
Speaker 1: to say, man, I should have played two more years.

2236
01:59:56,560 --> 01:59:58,400
Speaker 1: When you get to be my age, it's a question

2237
01:59:58,440 --> 02:00:00,640
Speaker 1: of should I have played half as long as I did,

2238
02:00:00,840 --> 02:00:03,920
Speaker 1: not twice as long as I did. Yeah, you're it's

2239
02:00:03,960 --> 02:00:05,720
Speaker 1: not about getting to a point you say, man, I

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02:00:05,760 --> 02:00:07,400
Speaker 1: wish I had to push it another year or two. No,

2241
02:00:07,960 --> 02:00:10,200
Speaker 1: it's about saying I pushed it four years too long.

2242
02:00:10,840 --> 02:00:14,920
Speaker 1: That's what you do as an old guy. He's missed it.

2243
02:00:15,000 --> 02:00:16,880
Speaker 1: So it's false. He's been different from the word go.

2244
02:00:17,040 --> 02:00:19,040
Speaker 1: But yes he is, and he still is. But and

2245
02:00:19,160 --> 02:00:20,560
Speaker 1: I get it. I mean he's a young guy and

2246
02:00:20,600 --> 02:00:22,880
Speaker 1: he's still chasing that championship. All right, here we go

2247
02:00:23,120 --> 02:00:27,400
Speaker 1: Number two NFL true false. Tom Brady's no excuses takes

2248
02:00:27,440 --> 02:00:31,440
Speaker 1: on organized workouts is a gamble worth taking. So his

2249
02:00:31,720 --> 02:00:35,840
Speaker 1: no excuse work mantra meeting, they're going against the NFLPA

2250
02:00:36,040 --> 02:00:39,720
Speaker 1: advising players not to do organized workouts anymore. Tom Brady said,

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02:00:39,880 --> 02:00:43,360
Speaker 1: forget it, We're gonna do it no excuses. You think

2252
02:00:43,400 --> 02:00:47,440
Speaker 1: that's a gamble worth taking to or false? Well, I

2253
02:00:48,520 --> 02:00:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm not really a Brady fan to begin with, for

2254
02:00:51,240 --> 02:00:56,280
Speaker 1: obvious reasons. But as much as I admire retireless work ethic,

2255
02:00:56,360 --> 02:01:02,880
Speaker 1: this is an exception. You're going against your own union's recommendations,

2256
02:01:03,960 --> 02:01:08,760
Speaker 1: and you're probably putting your own teammates at risk because

2257
02:01:09,280 --> 02:01:11,280
Speaker 1: if you say, hey, we're going out and working out,

2258
02:01:11,360 --> 02:01:15,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna follow you. You're Tom Brady, so carry that

2259
02:01:16,080 --> 02:01:21,400
Speaker 1: mantil appropriately and you know, try to separate yourself from

2260
02:01:21,440 --> 02:01:26,120
Speaker 1: your own you know, ego and all of that. Just

2261
02:01:26,480 --> 02:01:30,120
Speaker 1: let's do the smart thing here, right. So yeah, no,

2262
02:01:30,360 --> 02:01:33,120
Speaker 1: it is not a gamble. We're there false, it's not

2263
02:01:33,160 --> 02:01:35,560
Speaker 1: a gamble. We're taking my take is and I'll give

2264
02:01:35,560 --> 02:01:37,800
Speaker 1: you this. When you're a player, particularly I got like

2265
02:01:38,120 --> 02:01:40,440
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and like Adrian Peterson. We were just talking

2266
02:01:40,480 --> 02:01:43,160
Speaker 1: about all these guys. You're feel bulletproof and you're gonna

2267
02:01:43,200 --> 02:01:44,640
Speaker 1: you say, listen, I'm gonna go out and I'm gonna

2268
02:01:44,680 --> 02:01:46,560
Speaker 1: do what I do. I'm gonna play football. And if

2269
02:01:46,600 --> 02:01:48,760
Speaker 1: this virus, if this, if I catch the virus, so

2270
02:01:48,880 --> 02:01:50,640
Speaker 1: be it. I'll kick it's asked, just like I do

2271
02:01:50,720 --> 02:01:52,840
Speaker 1: the rest of these challenges. That's kind of their mentality,

2272
02:01:52,920 --> 02:01:56,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm gonna win. This virus

2273
02:01:56,440 --> 02:01:58,520
Speaker 1: can come and take me if if it can, but

2274
02:01:58,640 --> 02:02:01,960
Speaker 1: it ain't gonna get me. I'll beat it. I'll be

2275
02:02:02,040 --> 02:02:03,400
Speaker 1: done with it. And then I'll come back and I'll

2276
02:02:03,400 --> 02:02:07,360
Speaker 1: play whoever and however long I want. I get that mentality.

2277
02:02:07,440 --> 02:02:09,800
Speaker 1: I used to be just like that. But here's the

2278
02:02:09,880 --> 02:02:13,120
Speaker 1: thing it's and here's what it is for everybody. It's

2279
02:02:13,640 --> 02:02:18,440
Speaker 1: you taking precautions about this virus, saying staying socially distanced,

2280
02:02:18,680 --> 02:02:22,240
Speaker 1: not going out for dinner, washing your hands, wearing a mask.

2281
02:02:22,480 --> 02:02:26,320
Speaker 1: It's not about you. It's about everybody around you. It's

2282
02:02:26,360 --> 02:02:28,640
Speaker 1: not about you getting the virus and having the freedom

2283
02:02:28,680 --> 02:02:31,000
Speaker 1: to do what you want. It's about you having enough

2284
02:02:31,080 --> 02:02:34,480
Speaker 1: common courtesy that you may be the person who carries

2285
02:02:34,520 --> 02:02:36,560
Speaker 1: it to a person who kicks the bucket because of

2286
02:02:36,600 --> 02:02:40,000
Speaker 1: this virus. That's what it's about. So a guy like

2287
02:02:40,120 --> 02:02:42,680
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and Anyan Gronkowski and the guys who were

2288
02:02:42,680 --> 02:02:46,440
Speaker 1: working out with him, who are public figures, they do

2289
02:02:46,640 --> 02:02:48,400
Speaker 1: carry it. I think a little bit of an extra

2290
02:02:48,520 --> 02:02:50,440
Speaker 1: burden to say, listen, this is how we do it,

2291
02:02:50,680 --> 02:02:52,320
Speaker 1: this is how it should be done. And if they

2292
02:02:52,400 --> 02:02:55,360
Speaker 1: do get the virus at a little more inopportune time

2293
02:02:55,400 --> 02:02:57,600
Speaker 1: than the offseason, maybe they get it a week into

2294
02:02:57,680 --> 02:03:01,960
Speaker 1: camp or whatever, at least it's not their fault for

2295
02:03:02,600 --> 02:03:06,680
Speaker 1: not doing things the right way. Um, so I'm with you, brownie.

2296
02:03:06,720 --> 02:03:09,640
Speaker 1: They got a little larger set of responsibilities as public

2297
02:03:09,720 --> 02:03:12,080
Speaker 1: figures and as public athletes and as pro athletes to

2298
02:03:12,160 --> 02:03:14,280
Speaker 1: set a better example for people, because there are some

2299
02:03:14,360 --> 02:03:16,600
Speaker 1: people who will follow their example and it will cost

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Speaker 1: somebody else down the line, maybe their live. Yeah, that's

2301
02:03:19,640 --> 02:03:23,000
Speaker 1: what it's about. It. It's narcissistic a little bit. Yes,

2302
02:03:23,240 --> 02:03:25,200
Speaker 1: that's true. Fault. So I'm gonna say it is not

2303
02:03:25,320 --> 02:03:28,720
Speaker 1: a gamble worth taking either, right NFL true false? Number three, Brownie,

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Speaker 1: You're ready real quick. Jaguars should have declined Blake Bortle's

2305
02:03:32,360 --> 02:03:36,520
Speaker 1: fifth year option. True? Yes, what were they thinking? I

2306
02:03:36,560 --> 02:03:38,240
Speaker 1: could have told part of the reasons they're in the

2307
02:03:38,280 --> 02:03:41,000
Speaker 1: situation they're in now. I could have told him that

2308
02:03:41,560 --> 02:03:44,360
Speaker 1: a year into his career, five year old, could have

2309
02:03:44,400 --> 02:03:46,360
Speaker 1: told him that, right, even when they went to the

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Speaker 1: championship game with him at quarterback. I think that was

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Speaker 1: in his third year. Right, No, yeah, I'm I'm yeah.

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Speaker 1: They were coming off their option. They were coming off

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Speaker 1: a playoff run. His option was likely to be guaranteed anyway.

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Speaker 1: The Jaguars gave Bordles a three year, fifty four million

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Speaker 1: dollar extension, and a year later he was cut. That

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Speaker 1: is traded that one out. Yeah, you should have waited

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Speaker 1: that one out. Steve Tasker, Chris Brown coming up. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna take a break. This is One Bill's Live presented

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Speaker 1: by Kalida Health on Buffalo Bills Radio. When we learned

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Skyworks, the official construction equipment rental

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Speaker 1: company of the Buffalo Bills. Earlier in the program, we

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Speaker 1: had Judy Batista on a NFL network. She said she

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Speaker 1: had this to say about the possibility of the National

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Speaker 1: Football League pushing back the regular season. Nobody can tell

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Speaker 1: you that things are going to be better in a month, right,

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Speaker 1: So even if you push things back and say, well,

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Speaker 1: let's go to school for a month on Major League

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Speaker 1: Baseball and the NBA and how they do, nobody can

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Speaker 1: assure you that things are going to be better in

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Speaker 1: a month. They could conceivably be worst, especially as you

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Speaker 1: get further into the year and you get into the

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Speaker 1: part of the year where that you know, the doctors

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Speaker 1: are advising people that we could have a second wave

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Speaker 1: in the country. So you know, yes, I understand that,

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Speaker 1: you know the concerns about you'd like to have time

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Speaker 1: to see how it works, how the testing protocols are

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Speaker 1: working in the other leagues. But the risk of waiting

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Speaker 1: is that you know you're also in the unknown there

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Speaker 1: and you might be heading into a part of a

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Speaker 1: year that is considerably worse even than what we have now.

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Speaker 1: That was Jude Batista from the NFL Network. We also

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Speaker 1: had NFL writer Mike Lombardi, former GM of the Browns.

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Speaker 1: We asked him about the salary cap in twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Here's what Miche Lombardi had to say, when there is

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Speaker 1: going to be some form of revenue deficit next year

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Speaker 1: because of lack of people coming to the games in

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Speaker 1: some states. Now we know that today the commissioner or

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Speaker 1: yesterday the commissioner rule that it's going to be dependent

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Speaker 1: upon states whether they come or not. My sense of

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Speaker 1: it is is I think that when you look at

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Speaker 1: this that revenue. One thing people don't always understand, and

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Speaker 1: Steve you can is because you played in the league,

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Speaker 1: you know you're a partner with the owner. Now you

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Speaker 1: may not feel like you're an equal partner, but there

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Speaker 1: is a partnership and whenever there's losses, partners share in

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Speaker 1: those losses. And because they share in those losses, next

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Speaker 1: year's cap is going to go down, and the teams

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Speaker 1: like the Eagles, who are already fifty million over the cap,

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Speaker 1: next year they're going to have a harder time trying

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Speaker 1: to whittle it down. And next year's market is going

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Speaker 1: to be very team friendly, not player friendly. That was

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Speaker 1: Michael Lombardi, former Gym and the Browns talking about the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one salary cap. That was what we learned.

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Speaker 1: Brought to you by Skyworks Brownie. We also had the

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Speaker 1: Twitter poll of the day. Should NFL clubs set the

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Speaker 1: fan limits for each of the NFL teams to keep

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Speaker 1: the playing field equitable? What were the results of our poll?

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Speaker 1: So not surprising people that weighed in. The winner was

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Speaker 1: the third choice, you get what your stadium allows sixty

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Speaker 1: percent of the vote today. There should be a level

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Speaker 1: playing field. Got thirty four percent of the vote, and

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Speaker 1: then teams with larger stadiums shouldn't get an edge That

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Speaker 1: came in a distant third five percent of the vote. Right.

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Speaker 1: That's our show for today. I would like to thank

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Speaker 1: our guest Michae Lombardi and also Jude Batista for coming

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Speaker 1: on tomorrow. We've got Andrew Brant coming on the program.

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Speaker 1: Always an interesting to listen to. Yeah, he's a law professor.

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Speaker 1: Former he ran the Green Bay Packers for about a

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Speaker 1: decade and has some insights as to how the league

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Speaker 1: actually works. He'll be fun to have Andrew Brant on

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Speaker 1: the program. Thanks for coming on, Brown. He has a

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Speaker 1: good show today, a lot of good stuff going on. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: enjoyed it. We'll do it again tomorrow. Absolutely, Steve Tasker,

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown coming back tomorrow. We'll have Andrew Brant on

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Speaker 1: the program. One Bills Live. Thanks for being with us.

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Speaker 1: This has been Buffalo Bill's Radio, presented by Kalidah Health.

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Speaker 1: This has been One Bills Live.