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Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Chris Harrison here in the home office in Austin, Texas,

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Speaker 1: and I have a great show for you today because

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Speaker 1: it's a show that you have asked for, that many

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Speaker 1: of you have asked for, and that is sitting down

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Speaker 1: and talking to Jason Mesnik and his wife Molly. Jason

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Speaker 1: and Molly, who were on the show, met on the

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Speaker 1: show in easily one of the most infamous and yes,

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Speaker 1: dramatic moments ever. When people would ask me, you know,

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Speaker 1: as I often got asked in interviews or what have you,

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Speaker 1: even on the street, when people would say, okay, dramatic guy,

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Speaker 1: what really is the most dramatic moment ever in the

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Speaker 1: history of the show. I would always say it was Jason,

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Speaker 1: Molly and Melissa. If you don't know Jason Mesnick was on,

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Speaker 1: I believe it was the fourth season of The Bachelorette

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Speaker 1: Deanna pappas he got to the finals of that season,

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Speaker 1: the final two. I think it was him and a

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Speaker 1: guy named Jesse Sinsak who ended up with Dianna for

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Speaker 1: a short amount of time. But if you remember, and

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Speaker 1: if not, I know you have to go back in

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Speaker 1: the in the black and white footage, but Jason was

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Speaker 1: preparing to get down on one knee and proposed to

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Speaker 1: Deanna when she stopped him, and she sent him home,

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Speaker 1: and he later became our fourteenth bachelor. This is back

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Speaker 1: in like two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine,

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Speaker 1: so this is a while ago. You know, It's funny.

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Speaker 1: In my mind, I remember Jason is the infancy of

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Speaker 1: the show in very early days. But in preparing for

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Speaker 1: this podcast with Jason Andmaly today, it struck me that

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Speaker 1: it was two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine.

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Speaker 1: The show began in two thousand and two, so we

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Speaker 1: were seven years into it. I felt so young. And

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Speaker 1: when I mean I felt young, I just mean my

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Speaker 1: innocence and maybe the show's innocence and my involvement in

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Speaker 1: the show was young, and it hadn't been fully baked yet,

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Speaker 1: I guess. And so when this moment happened, when we

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Speaker 1: got to the end of the season, Jason became the bachelor,

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Speaker 1: and it was a great season. It was kind of

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Speaker 1: a you know, we always have a theme, right, it

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Speaker 1: was the Sleepless in Seattle. He's from Seattle. We even

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Speaker 1: rented the house. It's not a houseboat, but it's you

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Speaker 1: know the houses that are on the water there in Seattle.

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Speaker 1: We rented one of those like that like you see

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Speaker 1: in the movie with Tom Hanks and Meg Brian and

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Speaker 1: his son. Tie was kind of a part of the show.

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Speaker 1: And at the time I will talk about this, but Tie,

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Speaker 1: I think was four or five years old, and so

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Speaker 1: you know, we had a single dad, which was a

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Speaker 1: first for us as well. It was very emotional and

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Speaker 1: Jason was really you know, he wore his heart on

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Speaker 1: his sleeve. What you see is what you get with him,

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Speaker 1: which is why I enjoy talking to him. But his

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Speaker 1: season came down to Melissa and Mollie, and at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day in New Zealand, where his finale was,

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Speaker 1: he chose Melissa, and quickly things unraveled. It didn't go well,

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Speaker 1: and that's when Jason said, I would like another shot

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Speaker 1: with Mollie. In my heart, I want to be with Molly.

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Speaker 1: So you have to kind of put in perspective when

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Speaker 1: I say this was the most dramatic moment of all time.

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Speaker 1: This had never happened before. This was new in reality TV.

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Speaker 1: It was new for the Bachelor and Bacheorette. I had

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Speaker 1: never experienced anything like this. The producers, the creators, the executives,

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Speaker 1: nobody had dealt with anything like this before. And when

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Speaker 1: you're dealing with a first it's crazy because you're just

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Speaker 1: trying to You're trying to make good TV, of course,

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Speaker 1: but you're trying to do what's right. You're trying to

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Speaker 1: because it behooves us to actually make it work, but

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Speaker 1: And so I'll never forget that day when we went

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Speaker 1: to shoot the show and we kept everybody sequestered, so

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Speaker 1: no one really had a chance to see each other

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Speaker 1: or talk except for when they came on stage and

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Speaker 1: we taped the show no audience, which I did love.

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Speaker 1: But what I found interesting is, you know, when I

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Speaker 1: say I felt like I wasn't fully baked as a host,

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Speaker 1: as a producer, I really was taking my cues from

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Speaker 1: those above me. I wasn't maybe I wasn't strong enough

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Speaker 1: further and further, even like with Ari and his big switch.

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Speaker 1: I actually talked to him off the air. I would

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Speaker 1: counsel him and make sure this is what you want

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Speaker 1: we would have those lengthy conversations off air, dealing with

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Speaker 1: whereas with Jason, it was more plug and play, like, okay, host, enter,

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Speaker 1: I guess I should apologize to Jason as we talked

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Speaker 1: today and Molly, I wasn't. They didn't get my a

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Speaker 1: game because I wasn't there yet. I hadn't been through

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Speaker 1: so many battles on the show to where I could

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Speaker 1: demand things. I could see things coming a mile away.

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Speaker 1: I knew the pitfalls, I knew the hurdles they were

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Speaker 1: going to be falling over. I didn't know that then

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Speaker 1: because the famous line, you don't know what you don't know, right,

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Speaker 1: how can you? And so we all went through it together,

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Speaker 1: which made it incredibly dramatic and it shook me. It

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Speaker 1: was a very difficult show to host. It was uncomfortable,

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Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, it worked. And

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Speaker 1: that's the crazy part and maybe that makes it even

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Speaker 1: more dramatic, is that Jason and Molly got happily married,

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Speaker 1: have children and have this beautiful life together. And when

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Speaker 1: we asked who you guys most wanted to hear from,

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Speaker 1: it was pretty overwhelming that it was Jason and Molly.

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Speaker 1: And joining me now is the infamous Jason and Molly

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Speaker 1: from I believe they're in Kirkland, you guys up in Washington.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we are the.

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Speaker 3: Home of Kirkland signature toilet paper.

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Speaker 1: You guys, you make so much more. I mean, you're

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Speaker 1: making golf balls now, golf clubs. Do you know where

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Speaker 1: the rotisserie chickens come from? Is that up there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I actually just saw an article about their rotes

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Speaker 2: three chickens yesterday. Yeah, must be from up here.

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Speaker 3: How many mini chickens are killing every day? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Exactly.

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Speaker 1: No, But you know what, and we totally digress here,

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Speaker 1: but I read this article that how bad that those

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Speaker 1: damn chickens are for you? Those are tissary chickens. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's like fifty different ingredients in a rotisserie chicken. I'm like, oh, great.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for ruining. Is there anything that's not getting ruined

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Speaker 1: these days all?

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Speaker 3: And why are they so little?

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Speaker 1: Why they are so little? That is a debate for

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Speaker 1: another day and another show on the most Costco episode ever.

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Speaker 1: But you guys are up there living your life. And

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Speaker 1: we were delayed just a minute because Mollie, you were

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Speaker 1: running Riley to school.

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Speaker 2: Yep, her first day of fifth grade today.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, today's the first day of school, first day.

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Speaker 2: Of school for us. We're late. We're always after Labor Day.

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Speaker 1: That's by the way, it's not late, it's that's on time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess it is on time.

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Speaker 1: Shame on the rest of the world for going to

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Speaker 1: school in August, Like what an a whole thing to do?

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Speaker 2: Seriously, like Rooney summer.

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Speaker 1: It's miserably hot. It's stupid. When I moved my kids

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Speaker 1: into TCU, it's one hundred and forty nine degrees in humid, right,

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Speaker 1: and humid, and you're just so gross and sweaty and disgusting.

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Speaker 1: And even the football game and look, the football game

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Speaker 1: sucked on its own this week where they lost to Colorado.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Ryan Sutter, by the way, for just constantly texting

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Speaker 1: me during that game and rubbing it in. But it's

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Speaker 1: miserable at the football games like University. This is no joke.

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Speaker 1: University of Texas this weekend they played Rice. The female

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Speaker 3: But how did they even practice? Yeah, that's like neat.

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Speaker 1: So my point is, you're right, it should A school

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Speaker 1: should start after September first, after Labor Day.

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Speaker 2: Let it.

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Speaker 1: We can go later in the year. It's pretty in May,

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Speaker 1: that is are we what twelve ten?

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Speaker 2: She'll be eleven this year, but she's like big man

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Speaker 3: So she's she's still in the twenty fifth percentile. So

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Speaker 3: she's very.

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Speaker 1: Yes, tiny, but she doesn't know it. No, but mighty,

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Speaker 1: she has her fire. What is fifth grade?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: What is that? What was going to school?

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Speaker 4: Like?

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Speaker 1: What was is her attitude this morning?

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Speaker 3: Well, she's got a little click.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's got a group of six girls. Jason is

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Speaker 2: going through an interesting transition and phase in his life

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Speaker 2: right now where we took Tie to college. So now

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Speaker 2: he's outnumbered by the girls in his household. Interesting, and

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Speaker 2: he's dying. She's dying.

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Speaker 3: It's been like fourteen days, but it's been feel like

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Speaker 3: it's fourteen years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of drama, a lot of hormones.

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Speaker 1: I you know, it's funny I remember that because you know,

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Speaker 1: i will say, it forced us to be closer together,

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Speaker 1: which is wonderful. And I'm sure that'll happen to you too.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's a different dynamic when you had

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Speaker 1: the escape of oh my boys, here, we're gonna go

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Speaker 1: to lacrosse game, We're gonna go to whatever that's gone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, Jason Stein, like Sunday is normally

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Speaker 2: football Sunday, and now it's like dance.

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Speaker 1: Mom Sunday and Petties for you the worst show of

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Speaker 3: Mollie will like let her watch that, but won't let

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Speaker 3: her watch like Harry Potter, And I'm like.

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Speaker 2: Harry Potter, but I'm like, you know, Dance Moms is

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Speaker 2: it is really bad?

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Speaker 4: The people ever, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. So I in introing you guys

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Speaker 1: what struck me when I was reading back? I didn't

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Speaker 1: is two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, so

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Speaker 1: the show had been on for seven years. It was

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Speaker 1: only the fourth bachelorette that you were on, but you

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Speaker 1: were the thirteenth, fourteenth bachelor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thirteen.

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Speaker 3: How many is it now? Do we know?

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Speaker 2: One hundred?

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Speaker 1: No, you know, it's funny. Even when I was on

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Speaker 1: the show and I cared, I never I never remembered,

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Speaker 1: like when they're like, oh, how many bachelors, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, like someone's keeping track. I remembered years.

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Speaker 1: I knew, you know, I did it for go. I

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Speaker 1: was going on the twentieth year, and I actually wanted

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Speaker 1: to make it to twenty years. And then I was

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Speaker 1: honestly quite fine no matter what happened. But I went

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Speaker 2: Like everyone realizes once they're out of it how bad

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Speaker 3: Show, Like are they doing this on purpose? Are they

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00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 3: really that dumb?

436
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,000
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I could I watched Jason propose to Melissa.

437
00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 2: I could see it from my hotel room.

438
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,400
Speaker 1: Oh that's I mean, that's stuff we do to people

439
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:07,360
Speaker 1: in Guantanamo Bay. That's like, that's like special Forces torture stuff.

440
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 1: Did we waterboard you? Like what was next? And that's

441
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 1: that is the humanity that sometimes gets lost where and

442
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:20,439
Speaker 1: again I have to give a little leniency to some

443
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 1: of these producers because all they're thinking is, oh, crap,

444
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 1: we have to get this neo layne box shot. We

445
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: only have one box and oh god, Jason has it.

446
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 1: So some PA yells to some intern PA who's like,

447
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 1: you know, sheepishly goes, hey, man, they don't, they don't,

448
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,400
Speaker 1: they don't know there's they're so young and they don't

449
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 1: they don't have any idea. They're just trying to do

450
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 1: a job, and they forget that these are human beings

451
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 1: that just got broken up with and back in the day,

452
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 1: and you guys were in the in this era. I

453
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 1: call back in the day, Well, we are old. I

454
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 1: am just know, I'm always going to be older than you.

455
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 1: It's okay. But you know, look we were only seven

456
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: years into it and it was still pretty i will say, innocent, naive,

457
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: you know, like social media hadn't exploded. But there was

458
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: also this toxicity behind the scenes where there were no

459
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: rules like there is. The level of professionalism was maybe

460
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 1: at a.

461
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:22,400
Speaker 2: One, I mean a thousand, Like remember when place asked

462
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 2: you just like yeah, like really inappropriate stuff with producers

463
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 2: and the girls and like the producers saying things they

464
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 2: shouldn't like remember one thousand. It was bad.

465
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah it was. He made Jason look

466
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 1: like a good guy. It was Yeah, no, the level

467
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 1: of professionalism, and that's it. That's something else that changed,

468
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: you know, as we moved into the modern era of

469
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 1: the show. Thank god, it's the only way that we

470
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: could have survived. And I was and again, it was

471
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: just I was so out of that circle for so

472
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,320
Speaker 1: long that I didn't know that stuff like that was

473
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: going on. You know, you saw some stuff, but I'm like,

474
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 1: I'm out of my depth here. It's my first network gig.

475
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm excited to have the job. And so

476
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: I regret, you know, I couldn't have been that person

477
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: because I wasn't prepared for that in my life at

478
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 1: that moment. But I wish I was. I probably would

479
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: have been off the show sooner because it just would

480
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 1: have blown up sooner than it did. Because eventually, enough

481
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 1: is enough and you got to draw that line in

482
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: the sand. Yeah, something that Lauren and I were talking

483
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 1: about and we were laughing. You guys made the first

484
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: infamous switch, and it's worked. It has been unbelievably successful.

485
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 1: So did Ari and Lauren laughingly said the couples that

486
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 1: chose the wrong person and ended up getting married have

487
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: been more successful than the rest of the entire franchise.

488
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, how crazy is that?

489
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,600
Speaker 1: There's Sean Lowe and then the two of you.

490
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Ari and I talked about this long indeed,

491
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 3: because we're really good at what we do. We're real

492
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 3: estate agents and experts in love at the same time.

493
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, you guys should definitely, I know.

494
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 2: Exactly what it is. It allows switching like that, not

495
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: having the pressure of an engagement right away. It gives

496
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 2: you the time to create your own path in a relationship.

497
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 2: You know, Like I will stand by this woolheartedly. If

498
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 2: Jason would have proposed to me that final day, we

499
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 2: probably never.

500
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 3: Would have worked.

501
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 2: What do you talk I mean, honestly, like it just

502
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: the pressure of that is insanity. And yeah, we were

503
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 2: able to date off camera and start our relationship completely

504
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 2: over before ending up getting married. So I think that's I.

505
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 3: Mean, that's that's what saved us. I've never really thought

506
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 3: about that, but that's actually a really interesting point because

507
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 3: it's like I've always thought of going through it almost

508
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 3: kind of twice where it's like the end of the show,

509
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 3: even though the audience wants to see this ring and

510
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 3: all this stuff, what it feels like more than anything

511
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 3: is like, hey, can we start can we really start

512
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:11,360
Speaker 3: dating now?

513
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: Yeah?

514
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 3: But you know everybody you is like, no, you're engaged

515
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 3: when you're like, I've spent forty hours with this person.

516
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 3: I got to get to know him atself.

517
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: And you start not believing the hype. But you see

518
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: the hype and you're on the cover of People magazine,

519
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: You're on the cover of every magazine. Back then, it

520
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: was I mean the amount of pressure you got. I

521
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: mean now the show and I again, I'm not saying

522
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: this to be a jerk, it's just the relevance is

523
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 1: minute compared to when you were on the show. I mean,

524
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: the ratings were fifty times what it is now, and

525
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: so was the attention, and so was the news cycle,

526
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: and so you guys were not beloved, especially Jason Molly.

527
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: Did that have something to do with it too? Of

528
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: this that kind of bunker mentality of't you didn't have

529
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 1: the pressure of being the chosen ones. You kind of

530
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 1: had the pressure of we don't love this.

531
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

532
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, It very quickly forced us to go back to

533
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 2: our regular lives too, Like I know, you know this, Chris,

534
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 2: like the Hollywood lifestyle. After the Bachelor ruins, People ruins up,

535
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 2: you know, and like they feel like that's like they're

536
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 2: just rolling in the money and the events and the

537
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 2: shine and the glitz or whatever. But that's not real life.

538
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 2: That's going to go away. There's another couple the next

539
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 2: season that will be around, you know. And so we

540
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 2: just went back to normal life and dated and got

541
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 2: to know about that.

542
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,639
Speaker 3: And I wish people knew this about you, because I

543
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 3: remember several conversations with you, and other people would talk

544
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 3: to you, and I could almost envision being at an

545
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 3: airport and you giving advice not to me, to somebody

546
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 3: else and saying like, listen, don't do that, Like go

547
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 3: back to your normal life. And if you're a real

548
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 3: esta agent or a salesman or whatever it is, you're

549
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 3: going to kill it in that business. Yeah, don't go

550
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 3: do this other thing and try to host the red carpet.

551
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 1: Ben Higgins had a tough time with that, and Ben

552
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: and I really sat down and had that conversation. I'm like,

553
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: let it enhance your life, life, don't let it change

554
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: your life. And it's tough because and again you go

555
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 1: back to that producer saying to you, Oh, they know

556
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: what they're getting into you don't How do you know

557
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: what it's like to living Washington as a single dad

558
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: and then be on Jimmy Kimmel and then beyond Jay Leno,

559
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: which was a thing back then, to be on the

560
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: cover of Very magazine, to be to lead entertainment Tonight

561
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: and Access and everything every night. You don't know, and

562
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: and I'll never forget. Trista was was the first one

563
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: I kind of heard in this area when she went

564
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: on the View and she came back and I said, oh,

565
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: you did a great job, you know what. She's like, Yeah,

566
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: you know, I may, I may actually like work there.

567
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, what what do you mean? She goes, well,

568
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: they said I was so great, I could come back

569
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:53,959
Speaker 1: anytime and edit editor. I said, oh no, I'm like,

570
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 1: like they say that to everybody, but you do. You

571
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: get you get caught up and you're flying first class,

572
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 1: you're talking red carpets, you're you know, presenting at award shows,

573
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: and you don't realize that this is going to be

574
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: gone as soon as there is another one, and it's difficult,

575
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: and so yeah, if you can go back and be

576
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: amazing real estate moguls, which you guys have done awesome,

577
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: people know you. People feel like they know you, so

578
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: use that capitalize on it for sure.

579
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean that's how we handle it. It

580
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: definitely enhances our business, but it is not the anchor

581
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: of our business.

582
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 3: So typically, like you don't even want to say it

583
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 3: unless somebody's like someone, well, they're like, how do I

584
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 3: know your face? I'm like, you really want to talk

585
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 3: about do.

586
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: You want to find your dream home? Or do you

587
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: want to go down my dark dark path?

588
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, it's I mean, it's present in our life

589
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: when it needs to be, but it's not every day,

590
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 2: which is we prefer it.

591
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: Honestly, that is a great way to live. It's very healthy.

592
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: And you know, because we also televised your wedding I

593
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: believe it is in twenty ten.

594
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 2: That was a really good It was being awesome.

595
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: It was bonkers.

596
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 2: I would go back and do that one hundred times over.

597
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 2: It was so fun.

598
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: That's when I knew you may be the coolest chick

599
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: in the world, because any other bride would have lost

600
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 1: her mind. Because when I tell you folks that it

601
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: was storming outside and this was an outside wedding, I

602
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: can't begin to tell you the tropical like tropical storm

603
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: that hit during their wedding.

604
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 2: There was a tsunami warning that day.

605
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,719
Speaker 1: It was we were at the Terran Air Resort in

606
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: southern California, just south of LA.

607
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 3: But I also know it helped knowing that you had

608
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 3: like a world class makeup artist some time.

609
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 2: I didn't care, Like I was like, as soon as

610
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 2: this is on TV, they don't I mean for me to.

611
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: They don't want me to. We wish the best for you.

612
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I.

613
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 2: Knew I had hair and makeup waiting for me. When

614
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 2: I was done, Like, I wasn't even I was just

615
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 2: having fun. It was so fun.

616
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: It was it. It was crazy. So yeah, so are

617
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: people that don't remember when we televised this. In twenty ten,

618
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: the mother of all storms hit southern California. You know,

619
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: they say it's goodluck if it rains on your wedding day.

620
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: Bull crap. This was blowing thirty miles an hour sideways.

621
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 1: It was I mean, plant everything, you know, the art

622
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: I felt so bad for the art department because everything

623
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: they did blewe to Kingdom come, plants falling over, flying

624
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: down the aisle. We had to try to cover everything.

625
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 1: We're trying to give everybody umbrellas, but that doesn't work

626
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: because it's just also blowing so hard. And so you

627
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: guys get married in the rain in just this epic storm,

628
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: and it actually turned out to be one of the

629
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: coolest things I've ever seen.

630
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 2: It was it was like the pictures looking back and

631
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: like this is it's just awesome.

632
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 1: And then afterwards we were cool, but it was clear,

633
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: and Sonny too, c and then we all like took

634
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: a couple hours. We left and like dried out, changed

635
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: our clothes, got hair and makeup, and then we showed

636
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: up at what turned out to be an awesome party

637
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: the rest of the night.

638
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what that behind the scenes issue with

639
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: us taking forever to get ready and dried off and

640
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 2: all of that. Some of my like high school friends

641
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 2: and sorority sisters, like they got so drunk before the

642
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 2: reception even started because we took like two hours to

643
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 2: get ready. Again, like one girl.

644
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 3: Like one of your sorority sisters puked on the table.

645
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 2: Even remember the reception.

646
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: Well, the day got delayed because of the rain, and

647
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: then it got delayed because of the rain afterwards as well,

648
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: and so yeah, we hadn't fed anybody. There was no

649
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: food and everybody was just drinking and drinking and drinking

650
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: and it just went sideways.

651
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

652
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: Oh thank god for that in and out truck that

653
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: pulled in later. Yeah, I know, no kidding, that was

654
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 1: I've never been happier with an in and out burger

655
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: in my life. Was like around midnight when that thing

656
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: rolled in and just crushed it. But you know, one

657
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: of those things I loved. I loved about Tristan Ryan's wedding, y'all.

658
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: Wedding was like this is when we would take over

659
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: a resort and it was just us. It was just

660
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: your friends. And when people when we're doing a wedding,

661
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: the cool thing is, yeah, there's there's the television people around, producers,

662
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: but it's your people. Like you said, it's your sorority sisters,

663
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: it's your best friends, it's your family. So there was

664
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys remember that little bar

665
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: that had the fire pit there off the cliffs there.

666
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: We would go down and it was just mixing and

667
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: mingling with your friends and everybody's telling their Jason and

668
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: Molly stories. It really is like an actual wedding where

669
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: we're just sharing this stuff and we're sharing this love

670
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: and so it I love the feeling of that, and

671
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: I I try to encapsulate that every time we would

672
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: do a wedding.

673
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 3: What about what about when Gavin de grat tried to

674
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 3: make out with all your.

675
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 2: With my sorority system, he was is he married?

676
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 4: No?

677
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: Okay, well that's you're saying, like everyone was trapped at

678
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 2: this resort, right they went in. No one knew where

679
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: they were going.

680
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: So Gavin de Grau hooked up with one of your

681
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: sorority sisters.

682
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 3: One or multiple. I think he's like, who's the biggest

683
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 3: star here? It's me and Chris Harrison.

684
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: Wow, Gavin de Grau well played, sir, well played. I

685
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 1: don't know if that's that was part of the writer

686
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: of agreement. Yeah, I know, Sparkling Water, two bridesmaids and

687
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: I stayed dinner. What a party man?

688
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 3: That was.

689
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: It was again, it was just weird times because it

690
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 1: was so young and innocent, even though we'd been doing

691
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: it for almost a decade. It was just crazy. And

692
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,919
Speaker 1: then now you guys build this life, you go back

693
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 1: to Washington, and I just love how quickly you guys

694
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: were able to not drop off the map by any means,

695
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: because you would still come and do things for us

696
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: all the time, but just started enjoying your life and

697
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 1: had a child and you know, raising Tie as well.

698
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 1: And I loved to see you guys. It was the

699
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: Ryan and Trista method. I loved it. Get away and

700
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 1: live your life.

701
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 3: Well we have. I mean, part of it is we

702
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 3: had to, like, no matter what people think, you're still

703
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 3: on a reality show, so we have to go back

704
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 3: to work. And Molly like was getting recruited to do

705
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 3: jobs here right away, right you got recruited by the

706
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 3: shoe company and I went and I had to go

707
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 3: back to work right away. So there was no and

708
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 3: you know, Ty isn't going to be like, well did

709
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 3: you guys have fun on TV? Go ahead and enjoy

710
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:20,720
Speaker 3: your vacation for the next.

711
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: Five years life.

712
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 3: Like you like, you know, when you have a kid,

713
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 3: you're totally grounded and like, thinking back to it, like

714
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 3: Ty has no recollection of any of that.

715
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: Really, can we can we talk about the tie of

716
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: it all?

717
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 3: Yes?

718
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: I mean he was four or five years old. Yeah,

719
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: I remember that. I remember meeting this little kid, such

720
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: a Seahawks fan, and you know, he was around the

721
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: show from time to time and we'd hang out just

722
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: this little kid, and I again didn't pay attention until

723
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: I saw on your social media graduating high school off

724
00:35:55,600 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: to Boise State. Looks like a grown ass man. Yeah,

725
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: so so much better looking than you, So much better looking.

726
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 3: Than you, and so much nicer. Yeah, well behaved.

727
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 2: He's like literally the best. He's the best human he is.

728
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 1: He just Isn't that what you want? You want your

729
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: kids to not only have a better option a life

730
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 1: and choices and but to be better human beings.

731
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it was weird dropping him

732
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 3: off because that first day, it is just a couple

733
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 3: of weeks ago, we had the boys to drop him off,

734
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 3: and that like the first day he's like, hey, my

735
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 3: roommate wants to go to a concert, right, And we're like, oh, man,

736
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 3: like we're here with you, but like that's what you

737
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 3: want to see too. Yeah, what did we do?

738
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 2: We went out with We went out with his ex wife,

739
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 2: her husband, and.

740
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 3: We ended up at a club that night.

741
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 1: It's funny you say that it is a there are

742
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: a few times when you come back together and it's

743
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: for children, and so we did the same. We had

744
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: a big dinner. My ex was there, Lauren of course

745
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: is there, her husband is there, and we all, you know,

746
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: crack a bottle because it's still it's it's also no

747
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: matter what kind of divorce you went through or whatever,

748
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: it's still an accomplishment that the two of you and

749
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 1: all of you now as a unit have done. Like Molly,

750
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: you put your time and energy into Tie and I

751
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: know you know Lauren did the same for my kids,

752
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: and it's it is a beautiful moment, if only a

753
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: moment at least you come back together for a second

754
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: to celebrate and watching, you know, knowing that you drop

755
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: Tie off, was it a were you emotional? Did you

756
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: cry because you're a ball bag?

757
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a ball bag.

758
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: Well I've never seen him cry other than that scene

759
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 2: on TV.

760
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 3: That's it. Well I'm also, yeah, an actor obviously. Yeah,

761
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 3: So you know what's like, I think the one time

762
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 3: where it really hit me was you're in like at Boise,

763
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 3: they have this like freshman orientation where everybody goes into

764
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 3: the basketball arenac and somebody's president of the university's upfront,

765
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 3: Like when they started talking about their future and everything.

766
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 3: That's when it really got to me. Yeah, like where

767
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 3: they've been, where they're going like the drop off. Weirdly enough,

768
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 3: he came home the first two weekends for various things.

769
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: How close is Boise State to you guys? A short drive?

770
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:18,400
Speaker 2: No, it's a long drive, so you have to go

771
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 2: through the mountains. But the flight is like an hour.

772
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: Oh okay, gotcha.

773
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: It's super easy. He has to come back to go

774
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 2: to the Drake concert, very important.

775
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 3: Speaking to having fantasy football draft.

776
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, so.

777
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 2: It easy because Ty was so ready. He was so excited.

778
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 2: He made friends right out of the gate. Like the

779
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 2: first two nights of us dropping them off at college,

780
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 2: he was like, I don't even want to hang out

781
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 2: with you guys. I want to go with my friends.

782
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 2: So it's like he was ready to fly. Yeah, and

783
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 2: it made it easier to let him go.

784
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 3: You know, I want to just think like the last

785
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 3: couple of years, you know, once you got through COVID

786
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 3: and you get your license and all of a sudden,

787
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 3: it's sports and he's driving everywhere on his own and

788
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 3: he's got his own life. So like that last two

789
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 3: years of pushing away from us, and it's funny, like

790
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 3: he even said when he was in town over the weekend,

791
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 3: He's like, you know, it's weird, like it feels like

792
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 3: high school in some ways, just.

793
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 2: Bigger, bigger, Yeah, and doing things for you.

794
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, when when you've done your job right, they want

795
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: to be independent and they they leave you. And it's

796
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: but it is a great thing. I had just had

797
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: my kids, uh here for the Labor Day weekend, and

798
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: I had six kids in my house, you know, roommates,

799
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: sorority sisters, what have you. And it's you just look

800
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: at it and you're like, this is beautiful, Like this

801
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: is all I've wanted for them.

802
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: And you know what was really interesting this past year

803
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: is Tie and all of his friends decided to come

804
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 2: to our house every night and watch our season of

805
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: The Bachelor. In no way, yes, And it was the

806
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 2: most ten nights of my life.

807
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,959
Speaker 3: Oh no, I was just laughing at you. Oh god.

808
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 3: It was like she was so embarrassed, and I'm like, listen,

809
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 3: they were bound, they were bound to find out about it. No,

810
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 3: I know.

811
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: So all these kids, all.

812
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 3: Of them, like like when you say, everybody was me

813
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 3: over to your house, like.

814
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: They sat down and watched start to finish the whole thing.

815
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: Finish the thing. It was humiliating.

816
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: What were there? It was what were their comments like, well,

817
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: they had.

818
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: Actually really good comments. But what would be bad is

819
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 2: like I would go sequester myself in my room because

820
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: I'd be so embarrassed and I just hear all of

821
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 2: my at the same time be like, Oh, I'm like,

822
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: oh my god, what did they just see?

823
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's amazing. What did they think of

824
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: your skills? Jason?

825
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 4: Oh?

826
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 3: They well they all look up to me, so obviously.

827
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 3: It's like they love my skills, you know.

828
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: I bet I bet they would just realize now because

829
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: they have they are so much more evolved than we

830
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: were and are, and they're so much better at talking

831
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: and communicating that I bet they just feel like, man,

832
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: y'all were out of touch. Y'all were so out of touch.

833
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 3: God. I just keep on thinking, Thank God Instagram.

834
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: It wasn't I know, I know, it's I'm so glad

835
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: I got to go to school, like without all of that,

836
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: you know. Is that something you guys have trouble with

837
00:40:58,800 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 1: with Riley?

838
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 2: H No, not yet. Well she doesn't have a phone,

839
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 2: yete phone yet She's pretty good.

840
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: Because I saw her at the Taylor Swift concert. Yeah,

841
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: are y'all swifties?

842
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 2: I mean you have to be if you're not.

843
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: Jason, don't shake this off, like, don't don't like shake

844
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 1: your head like it's not cool to be a swiftye

845
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: that she's not amazing in every way possible, because she is.

846
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 3: I just here's here's my confusion with her. Okay, okay.

847
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 3: The super Bowl is once a year, right, yes, and

848
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 3: it's self doubt and tickets are very expensive. Taylor Swift

849
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 3: is on tour for two years straight and every show

850
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 3: is like the super Bowl.

851
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, tickets are.

852
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 3: The super Bowl is once a year. Taylor Swift has

853
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 3: one hundred and seventy nine thousand concerts.

854
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: Instead of being confusing, what that should tell you? And

855
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 1: I love the Dallas Cowboys, you love the Seahawks. Let's

856
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: say that the Seahawks and Cowboys are playing every day.

857
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 1: I don't care. There's a point, there's a point where

858
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: I just won't care about this aim anymore. Taylor Swift,

859
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: her tour will not ever have that. But it's also

860
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 1: different because billions can watch every game, and you like,

861
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: if we all tuned in every night to watch the

862
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: same Taylor Swift show, we would probably grow old as well.

863
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 3: So the concert's going on, that's great. You know what

864
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 3: you do, make a movie about it, Yeah, and put

865
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 3: it in the theaters. Everybody by the ticket.

866
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 1: I'm hey, I'm but I feel the same about you too,

867
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: Like I'm going to go see them in Vegas. I

868
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: love rattle and Hum. I'm all, I get it. And

869
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: my daughter is the biggest swift in the world. And

870
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 1: so she went by her again without us. She's in college,

871
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: so she went with her friend to the one at

872
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: Texas Stadium and she's like, it changed my life. She's

873
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: like I would go. She's like, I want to just

874
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:46,959
Speaker 1: keep traveling and go see her over and over.

875
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 3: And I love how much how passionate people are, because

876
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 3: I feel like she is a good person, But how

877
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 3: does it change your life?

878
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,880
Speaker 2: Her daughter, so she's.

879
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 3: Also ten, so like her life has got a shorter space.

880
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: There is that show, the You two show. Lauren was

881
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: amazing enough to get me this particular advertisement. I was

882
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: sixteen years old. I was playing soccer over in Europe

883
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: with this traveling team and we're in Wales and we

884
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 1: ran into You two in Cardiff, Wales, and I wasn't

885
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 1: even that huge of a U two fan, but it

886
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: was just there are moments in time when you are

887
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: so impressionable, and there's a moment like it is for Riley,

888
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: like it is for my daughter right now with Taylor Swift.

889
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: But what I find, and Lauren brought this up, what's

890
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:34,720
Speaker 1: incredible is that Taylor Swift isn't a kid. Her group

891
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 1: of people that grew up with her are still fans,

892
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 1: but now Riley's a fan. Like she has captured the

893
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: next generation as well. It is a phenomenon like we

894
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: have not seen in many, many decades. Even throwing out

895
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: the Beatles or the Stones, I mean, the biggest names

896
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,720
Speaker 1: in music. She's there now, I mean and Riley.

897
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 3: So they went to the concert, right and then the

898
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 3: next day, Hi and his girlfriend took Riley and sat

899
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 3: outside the concert because you could hear it, Yeah, she's

900
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:07,240
Speaker 3: like again.

901
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: Are you kidding? Ty took his little sister to sit

902
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:11,240
Speaker 1: outside so she could listen.

903
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, she's so good with her. He is

904
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: so good with her. They've gotten so close.

905
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what you did to deserve that, but

906
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: that is like, think about that. Think about what you're

907
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: just saying, Like, I promise you, Ty didn't want to

908
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: go sit in the parking lot and listen to you

909
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: with swift.

910
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 2: He did did. Yeah, it was so sweet that.

911
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: Like so when Taylor is my Taylor went to her concert,

912
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: she ubered in it's always easy to get into a concert,

913
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: it's impossible to get out. So she called her brother

914
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: who was forty five minutes away in Fort Worth, and said,

915
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: come pick me up. It's eleven thirty at night. And

916
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: he got out of bed went when picked up his

917
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: little sister. And that's those are the things when you're like,

918
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what I did, but thank god, these

919
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: are good human beings.

920
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 3: Yes, well I don't know. So my only memory memory

921
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 3: of your kids, because it wasn't that, it was the

922
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 3: opposite of that, is they come in and I think

923
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 3: were the itelliens. Well, we had a foosball table down

924
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:11,479
Speaker 3: because the year I was on the Bachelorette we stayed

925
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 3: in the house down below and you could bring your

926
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 3: kids from the kids would come from time to time,

927
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 3: and dude, when they went head to head in foosball,

928
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 3: I don't know if a foosball table, but they went,

929
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 3: they went at it.

930
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: They there. They would get contentious from time to time. Yeah,

931
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: they they they I mean, look, they had their moments

932
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: and I think what Riley and Tie are much further

933
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: apart in age minor a year and a half apart.

934
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: They are two years apart. So yeah, they there was

935
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 1: definitely that that phase they went through. But at the

936
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: end of the day, they are very close now and

937
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm so thankful for that because they're at

938
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 1: the same college, which is crazy unbelievable how that worked out.

939
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: Where else was where else was Thie looking to.

940
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 3: Go University of Washington, So he looked at all the

941
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 3: Washington schools, Oregon School STSU or University of Oregon, San Diego, Arizona.

942
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 3: But I think he just wanted something a little bit smaller. Yeah,

943
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 3: we actually have some Like I was telling you, we're

944
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 3: gonna be down in Austin because some of my closest

945
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: friends and clients are moving down there. Although she is

946
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 3: the mother is worried because coming from this climate down

947
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 3: to the air, She's like, it's one hundred and ten, sorry,

948
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:21,919
Speaker 3: maybe one hundred and forty nine.

949
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: It can be it can be warm, it can be

950
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: very so. But I mean, I can't wait for you

951
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 1: guys to get down here. I can't wait to show

952
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: you around. You're gonna absolutely you'll love it. And look,

953
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: I think what we do is we summer up in

954
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: Washington and.

955
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 2: Then we winter down here Albertas.

956
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: And you guys need some vitamin D. When you need

957
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: some sunshine, you come down here before you go. Though,

958
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: I do want to talk about what you guys are

959
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: doing with your life, because y'all have absolutely crushed it

960
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: and it's I love that you're doing it together. You guys,

961
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: when when did that kind of combinations start?

962
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 2: Jason's been doing real estate for over ten years. Yeah,

963
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 2: built a really really solid business, and he was like,

964
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 2: I need your help.

965
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 3: Well, she's so organized and creative, and you know, she

966
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 3: was doing like she left the the she was in

967
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 3: the radio business for a little while. But as soon

968
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,760
Speaker 3: as she left, I'm like, okay, can we do this together?

969
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 3: And we did have a negotiation.

970
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 2: We did. He was like, if you come help me

971
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 2: with work, you can build the house that you want

972
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:22,240
Speaker 2: to build.

973
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 3: That's why we almost the trade. So hopefully just a

974
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 3: few weeks away from moving into our house. But like

975
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 3: we had a fair trade.

976
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 2: That was a fair trade.

977
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is that's quite the carrot you dangled there.

978
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 2: That's quite the deal. I know, I know, but it's

979
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 2: been good though. I mean we do have everyone's like

980
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: how do you work together? And we do have moments

981
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: where like moments, Yeah, I'm like, you go to the

982
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 2: office today, all work from home, just so we're like separated.

983
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 3: But well, I mean we're in the office today and

984
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 3: this is the first day you've been in the office

985
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 3: for a while. Yeah, several weeks.

986
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

987
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: Interesting. You guys bring so much to the table. Obviously

988
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: you're smart and talented, but you're also a couple and

989
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: you've been through something so public. Buying a house is

990
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 1: so emotional. Do you have advice for people? Do you

991
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: find that you also help people kind of emotionally with

992
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: such a big job.

993
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 2: You're you're a therapist for sure, because they're going through

994
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 2: one of the most stressful moments of their life, packing

995
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: a house, moving, picking out the biggest purchase of their life. Yeah,

996
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: it's I mean, we talked through a lot of emotions

997
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 2: with people.

998
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think probably in some ways it does

999
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 3: help because a lot of our clients do know who

1000
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,720
Speaker 3: we are, recognize us, and so because of that familiarity

1001
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,280
Speaker 3: with like, oh, we we already feel like we trust

1002
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 3: them and hope hopefully they really do that those conversations

1003
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 3: probably come a little easier. Plus, I took a few

1004
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 3: credits in psychology.

1005
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 2: And so you're basically a psychologists.

1006
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 3: Basically a psychologist from that university.

1007
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 1: Well, I always said, it's like, I'm like, I'm not

1008
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: a doctor, but I definitely have put enough hours in

1009
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: to be. Yeah, at this point, I feel like, as

1010
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: they say, I've seen a few things, Yes, yes you have,

1011
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: and you guys were definitely one of those things. That

1012
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: was such a lightning bolt moment that for the franchise,

1013
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: for me, for you, and it's this thing that no

1014
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: matter what happens in my life, I will always remember

1015
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: it and I will always have this bond with the

1016
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 1: two of you. And at the time, I don't think

1017
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: I would have had this perspective, but I consider it

1018
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 1: special now and I don't know if that's right, but

1019
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 1: I feel like I think about it with fondness.

1020
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we do too.

1021
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 3: Like I think there was some like initially because I

1022
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 3: knew what it was going to look like and how

1023
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 3: that was going to play out. I was there was

1024
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 3: some animosity back then, but I think now when I

1025
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 3: look back at it, it was just a really interesting experience.

1026
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's so funny though, like we're so far moved.

1027
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 2: It's like weird to even think like we were on

1028
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,120
Speaker 2: a TV show at one point, you know, like it's

1029
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 2: been fifteen years since we filmed our season, you know.

1030
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 2: And I even like when you had promoted like do

1031
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 2: you have questions for Jason and Molly, I was like,

1032
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 2: I three years ago. I looked at Jason, I was like,

1033
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 2: I'm not doing interviews about the show anymore. I'm just like,

1034
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 2: I'm done with it. I don't I don't remember. It

1035
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 2: was so long ago, you know, and like so it's

1036
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 2: not really a part of our day to day life,

1037
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 2: but it is a very fond memory. To go down

1038
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 2: this lane with you and talk.

1039
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: About it, well, I appreciate it. I've never had, as

1040
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: you said, an open, honest, really candid conversation with you too.

1041
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:28,160
Speaker 1: I've had the other type of conversations where we all

1042
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: smile and shake our head and answer the right questions.

1043
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: But I was happy to have a real conversation with

1044
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: you guys and get to the truth. And I love

1045
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: you guys, and Yell are in such a good season

1046
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:45,280
Speaker 1: with your lives, your business, with Riley starting fifth grade,

1047
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear how the first day of

1048
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,800
Speaker 1: school went, and Tye it did. By the way, is

1049
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: he in a fraternity.

1050
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 2: He's not doing a fraternity. Fraternities aren't real big and

1051
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 2: poise like.

1052
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: It depends on the school.

1053
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I was a big sorority girl. Jason

1054
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 2: was a big fraternity guy. He's taking a different path,

1055
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 2: but he's.

1056
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 3: Super hid different school.

1057
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:10,320
Speaker 1: Is in a sorority, you know, see how that goes.

1058
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 3: That's I mean, he's so level headed, but he's learning

1059
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,840
Speaker 3: a lot in the first couple of weeks of school. Yeah.

1060
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: Well, you know, when we would reach out to people

1061
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: on uh, you know, the most dramatic pod ever on

1062
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: our Instagram unanimously, you guys were the ones people were

1063
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,400
Speaker 1: asking about. People were clamoring to get you. Yeah, I know,

1064
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, and I don't mean to be mean.

1065
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,359
Speaker 1: I was like, really I didn't. Okay, great, we'll die back.

1066
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 2: You're irrelevant. We are such old news.

1067
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: But that's the great thing is you're not and uh

1068
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: and people still bond over this and love you guys,

1069
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: and it just you know, you never it never ceases

1070
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 1: to amaze me how many people we touched with the

1071
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: show and for how long we did it, and that's

1072
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: and that's and you guys were a huge part of that.

1073
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 1: So I thank you. I thank you guys for your friendship,

1074
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,760
Speaker 1: your support, your love, and for coming on the show

1075
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: and for being honest today. It has been such a

1076
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: pleasure talking to you.

1077
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 2: Awesome, Chris. Let's take it to the course.

1078
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 1: Bring it you guys, get to Austin. Let me know

1079
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: when you're coming to town. I got it all.

1080
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, sweet man, I'll be both of you.

1081
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 4: Well.

1082
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: By the way, I've seen your swing. You look really good. Yeah,

1083
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: it looks real good. I don't know how many houses

1084
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: you're selling, but your candy cap has come down. Yeah,

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00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 1: all right, guys, take care.

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Speaker 2: Okay, thanks Chris, thanks for listening.

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Speaker 1: Follow us on Instagram at the most dramatic pod ever,

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00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: and make sure to write us a review and leave

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Speaker 1: us five stars. I'll talk to you next time.