WEBVTT - Shane Bacon

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to another edition of the Friday Egg Podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>In this episode, I am joined by Fox play by

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<v Speaker 1>Play guy and host of the Clubhouse Podcast, Shane Bacon.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get into our discussion, i'd like to ask

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<v Speaker 1>check out our latest videos. Now, without further ado, here's

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<v Speaker 1>Bacon and the Fried Egg.

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<v Speaker 2>The fried Egg requires a different technique. What you need

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<v Speaker 2>to do is actually square the face so they'll dig

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<v Speaker 2>down underneath that bad lie and propel that ball right

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<v Speaker 2>out onto the green. Here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Playing out of a buried lion of bunker is completely

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<v Speaker 3>different than playing out of a nice clean lion of

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<v Speaker 3>green side bunker.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to be aggressive on any show weather it's

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<v Speaker 2>sitting cleanly for its Friday Egg. Well, we've all faced.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the dreaded Frida Egg. It's not to be feared though.

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<v Speaker 4>It's actually a pretty easy shot to hit.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're the you're the original gangster golf blogger. I

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<v Speaker 1>thing like that, and I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean it's like there was I mean, Ryan

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<v Speaker 2>Balangie was kind of an og there was this thing

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<v Speaker 2>called the sand Trap. I'm trying to think of some

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<v Speaker 2>other golf Blogsdi Hackers Paradise was around. We had Stephanie

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<v Speaker 2>Way came around after a little bit of me kind

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<v Speaker 2>of rocket and rolling. But yeah, I was. I actually

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<v Speaker 2>had a buddy of mine, my buddy Andrew, when we

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<v Speaker 2>got out of college. I wrote for the student newspaper

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<v Speaker 2>and he was like, yo, man, you should like right

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<v Speaker 2>now on the internet. And I was like, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually wrote a major championship previews for dead Spin

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<v Speaker 2>back in the Will Leech days, which is pretty o G.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I wrote some stuff for like Sports by

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<v Speaker 2>Brooks too, but I hope that there's no arcaves for

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<v Speaker 2>that because I would hate to see what it looked like.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that brooks Kopka's publication.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was like like before he realized his potential.

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<v Speaker 2>He had this great blog and uh and it was awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>It was it was it was a must read. But uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that was Those are those are the days, man. I

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<v Speaker 2>had a desk in my bedroom. It was so nice.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where that's where all the magic happened.

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<v Speaker 1>You literally woke up and you know, instead of a basement,

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<v Speaker 1>instead of your parents' basement. It was just a one

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<v Speaker 1>bedroom office sleeping quarters.

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<v Speaker 2>The ground in Phoenix is too hard to dig down to,

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<v Speaker 2>so they just instead of having the basement, I just

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<v Speaker 2>had an attached an attached desk in my in my room. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>my my buddy, same buddy, Andrew, the one that I

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<v Speaker 2>was telling you complained. Him and I were living together,

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<v Speaker 2>and he gave me the bigger bedroom because he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're the loser that stays at home and rights all

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<v Speaker 2>the time, so you can have the bigger room. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, thank you, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>When when you're writing, and when you were just blogging

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<v Speaker 1>and doing this for all these different sites, why did

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<v Speaker 1>you know that you were kind of like set and

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<v Speaker 1>locked in for with golf for the rest of your life.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, the rest of my life. Don't say that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you probably you might move on to bigger and

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<v Speaker 1>better things.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I I you know what I wrote when

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<v Speaker 2>I first got my job with AOL fan house. I

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<v Speaker 2>wrote almost every sport. I didn't write a lot of baseball,

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<v Speaker 2>but I wrote it was kind of one of those

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<v Speaker 2>things when stuff came across the wire, which I know

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<v Speaker 2>that sounds like a super old term, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like when when when Tiger did something or some breaking

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<v Speaker 2>news came out about this. Basically it was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the it was first person to email our list, serve I, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I got this story, got it, and and if you

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<v Speaker 2>got a really popular post, you actually got a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of bonus. So dude, I would just sit around

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<v Speaker 2>all the time and and just kind of be around

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<v Speaker 2>the computer just just looking. So I mean, NFL stories

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<v Speaker 2>all that stuff. But I knew, I knew fairly on

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<v Speaker 2>that golf was probably the best avenue, just because I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like I knew it the best, and I had

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<v Speaker 2>kind of some cool opportunities throughout throughout my life within

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<v Speaker 2>the game that I don't think a lot of people had.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that's kind of why I wanted to do it,

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<v Speaker 2>and and so I gradually kind of navigated over there.

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<v Speaker 2>And then when I got a chance to kind of

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<v Speaker 2>write for the Yahoo blog and then eventually edit it

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<v Speaker 2>and go to CBSI on golf, that was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>when I realized that this was probably the sport that

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<v Speaker 2>I should focus most of my attention on because it

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<v Speaker 2>seemed to be the one that was that that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of I don't know, people listen to me about I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if that makes sense. They kind of listened

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<v Speaker 2>to me about it.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I still get people that call me Sean.

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<v Speaker 2>I got called Sean twice on air this year Sean

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<v Speaker 2>Bacon twice. Host go back to Sean. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's close enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they didn't even know brooks Cepko Sam turning the

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<v Speaker 1>final round.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't feel beast.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly right.

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<v Speaker 5>But he's just won two major championships.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, though, you know, there's a level of

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<v Speaker 2>kind of being like I'm kind of okay with people

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<v Speaker 2>and maybe not knowing my name like that. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I see these really famous people. Not to say

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm gonna ever be famous or even on that path,

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<v Speaker 2>but like I see famous people and the fame thing

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<v Speaker 2>is so weird that like it's kind of nice when

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<v Speaker 2>like somebody you're working with says your name wrong, You're

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<v Speaker 2>like nice. You know, that's okay. I'm okay with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, like I've always wished like if I became famous,

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<v Speaker 1>that I was like the level of fame of like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like a middle of the road baseball player,

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<v Speaker 1>like the guy that can just walk around completely unnoticed.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like really good at what he does, but

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<v Speaker 1>not super famous.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, my Facebook profile since I was like out

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<v Speaker 2>of college, and again this has now become a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more of like a like a popular opinion, but

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<v Speaker 2>my Facebook profile for probably fifteen years says I want

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<v Speaker 2>to have the career of Charles how the third because

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<v Speaker 2>it's like he can do anything he wants, anywhere he wants,

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<v Speaker 2>at any time, and he could also go eat down

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<v Speaker 2>the street at like Flower Child in Phoenix and nobody's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna bother the guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's the that's the life. It's not when

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<v Speaker 1>you're out at dinner and everybody's walking up to you

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<v Speaker 1>asking for your autograph.

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<v Speaker 5>That's not the best life. Best life is.

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<v Speaker 1>Being able to live in animinity, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, but didn't like have have a little success. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like you, I mean, Charles how the Third's career has

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<v Speaker 2>been massively successful by my standard. You know, I know

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<v Speaker 2>people wish you one more, but that's an unbelievable career

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<v Speaker 2>in life. And you know, he can go to Starbucks

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<v Speaker 2>and they're probably going to write, you know, something different

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<v Speaker 2>on his cup, and that's good. That's that's the life.

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<v Speaker 2>They want the Starbucks brist to screw up your name

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<v Speaker 2>like eighty percent of the time, you know, because they're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to screw up Jordan's speed. Hadn't got anything

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<v Speaker 2>but Jordan on a Starbucks cup in a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>If ever, you know, they're probably not going to mess

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<v Speaker 2>up Tiger very much. But you know, if you're you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Bubba Dickerson probably gets that messed up every now and

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<v Speaker 2>against the US an't or.

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<v Speaker 5>Champion and Western m same year.

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<v Speaker 2>Did he really win them both in the same year.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm almost I'm almost positive I thought I was. I

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<v Speaker 1>was all in you know on Bubba Dickerson Island. You

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<v Speaker 1>know that was that was a very bad property purchase.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, didn't go well. So you know, in in the

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<v Speaker 2>in the sports world besides baseball, to know that in

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<v Speaker 2>the last twenty years, we've had too successful Bubba's. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say Bubba Dickerson is successful because he won the

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<v Speaker 2>amateur That's that's probably not gonna happen a ton in

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<v Speaker 2>most in most professional outlets.

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like football, you could have some Bubba's.

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<v Speaker 2>Too offensive linemen.

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<v Speaker 1>Bubba's I don't know, yeah, I could offensive lineman exactly

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<v Speaker 1>like it but I don't think of many other sports

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<v Speaker 1>like basketball.

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<v Speaker 5>There there's not gonna be many bubbus playing.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see here, let's see now, I'm looking up Bubba Dickerson.

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<v Speaker 2>He won the one us AM, he won the one

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<v Speaker 2>Western End Way to go. I'm very impressed. See, this

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<v Speaker 2>is why you're you remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I remember all this useless crap, but then

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<v Speaker 1>I can't remember to, like, you know, clean my clothes up.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife drives my wife crazy. So when, uh, when

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<v Speaker 1>did you you know, so you're in the industry, you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're blogging. When do you think that, uh, broadcasting was

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<v Speaker 1>a possible avenue?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I always wanted a broadcast, the issue being that

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<v Speaker 2>I'd never really done it. You know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people go to school and you know, spend four years

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<v Speaker 2>doing that. I when I got to school, I wrote

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<v Speaker 2>and that was my main focus, and I wrote for

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<v Speaker 2>the student newspaper.

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<v Speaker 5>So were you journalism major?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, what's up? Journalism major in? And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's funny, I was. I had all these plans to

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<v Speaker 2>do all this broadcasting internship stuff, and I just fell

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<v Speaker 2>in love with the writing side of it. I love

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<v Speaker 2>the grind, I love the hustle. I love the you're

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<v Speaker 2>interviewing the head coach for the football team and the journalist,

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<v Speaker 2>the print journalist. You know, we're sitting around for forty

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<v Speaker 2>five minutes because they've got to get all this stuff

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<v Speaker 2>and the TV people need one SoundBite. And I love

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<v Speaker 2>the hustle of the writing side. So I didn't do

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<v Speaker 2>any really broadcasting in college outside of an internship at NBC,

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<v Speaker 2>but I always had this dream of it, and I

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<v Speaker 2>remember I did a couple of things. I did this

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<v Speaker 2>thing at the Rodeo in Vegas. Please God, I hope

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<v Speaker 2>it's not on the internet. I did this thing for

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<v Speaker 2>the Rodeo for aol I think, and I mean, if

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<v Speaker 2>you watch that, I mean I had to be the

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<v Speaker 2>most uncomfortable human on the planet in front of the camera.

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<v Speaker 2>It was, It's just awful. I did a thing on

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<v Speaker 2>this new seventeenth tee at Saint Andrew's. I had, like

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<v Speaker 2>my dad hold the video camera uh years ago, and

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<v Speaker 2>it was awful. And so I obviously needed to to

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<v Speaker 2>kind of improve. And I had a couple opportunities to

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<v Speaker 2>come to me the same year from from a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of from Golf Channel and from the startup and back

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<v Speaker 2>of my network and they kind of came to me

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<v Speaker 2>and I had a couple of auditions, and yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>got this job. And you know, it was so weird.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, to take a chance, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you think back on and taking a chance on

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<v Speaker 2>somebody like me was silly. I mean it was. There's

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's no reason too. I mean I had

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<v Speaker 2>no idea what I was doing. You know, I'd never

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<v Speaker 2>really read a teleprompter before.

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<v Speaker 5>I no no bad habits.

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<v Speaker 2>Though, you know I had. I had this weird lip

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<v Speaker 2>thing for a while where I would lick my lips

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. Uh, and it drove me crazy, drove my

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<v Speaker 2>wife really crazy. So you know there's stuff like that

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<v Speaker 2>that you've got to break. But yeah, it was it

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<v Speaker 2>was nice. I mean, I I I had the opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, you think back on opportunities in

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<v Speaker 2>your life that are that that work out in your favor,

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<v Speaker 2>and getting this chance at this place that it only

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<v Speaker 2>lasted whatever four months. I mean I got to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about golf for an hour a day every day, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was kind of like the voice of the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Plus I got a chance to go on their other

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<v Speaker 2>shows with guys like John McGinnis and Jeff Rude and

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<v Speaker 2>you know real golf people, you know, guys that like

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<v Speaker 2>have been in the industry playing or writing for decades,

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<v Speaker 2>and they'd ask me to come on the show once

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<v Speaker 2>a week or twice a week. And you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I know everybody talks about reps. I know that you

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<v Speaker 2>you've talked about reps with your podcast. You and I've

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<v Speaker 2>had this conversation before. It's like going back and listen

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<v Speaker 2>to one of your first podcasts. You know, the reps

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<v Speaker 2>are real. I mean, you know, hitting range balls is real.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was it was that was that was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of where it went. And then opportunity presents itself with

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<v Speaker 2>with Fox the moment kind of back nine ceased to

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<v Speaker 2>exist and Fox picks this thing up. And luckily I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in the northeast and luckily Mark Loomis lives an hour

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<v Speaker 2>and a half away, and we just so happened to

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<v Speaker 2>go play golf one day, and you know, that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff falls in your lap. So you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, now when you kind of even the way

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<v Speaker 2>I say it, you know, when you think about circumstances

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<v Speaker 2>in the U in kind of the walk through the

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<v Speaker 2>life thing it is. It is nuts how certain things

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<v Speaker 2>like kind of almost you know, work together in tandem.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, I mean half of it's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>just that timing of luck and opportunities, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>being in the right place at the right time is

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<v Speaker 1>just so.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're you're your example this too. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're one of my favorite people in golf.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know you know that. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if you come around five years later, you know there

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<v Speaker 2>might be somebody that, you know, architecture talk has already

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<v Speaker 2>you know, blown up. I'd say, I'm sure you're part

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<v Speaker 2>of it to a certain extent, but you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>you come around five years later or so you're five

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<v Speaker 2>years younger or something like that, you know, there might

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<v Speaker 2>have been some guy that starts this whole talk about

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<v Speaker 2>it and and you've got to kind of like find

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<v Speaker 2>your find the crease in that conversation. And yet, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you come around a time where people want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about golf courses. People realize that golf courses don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to be this name to be cool, and you have

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of audience that loves listening to that point.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like me and it's opened my eyes to

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<v Speaker 2>it too. You know that that's something that's so funny

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<v Speaker 2>to me, is like like a Yamen's Hall that I

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<v Speaker 2>had a very lucky opportunity to go play, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a place like that, I might not even know what

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<v Speaker 2>it was, you know, six or seven years ago before

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of cared about looking a little bit deeper

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<v Speaker 2>into the story. So yeah, that's how it works, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's what worked for me, And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's been awesome to do the USGA stuff because

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<v Speaker 2>you don't just have to talk about one tour, and

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<v Speaker 2>that I think is something that we all really like

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<v Speaker 2>is that every single week that we have, we've got

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<v Speaker 2>a completely different group of people to talk about. And

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a billion people aren't watching like they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>watch the US Open. But that's okay, you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>our job is just to talk about it. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Our job isn't to go find people to come watch

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<v Speaker 2>the US Junior Amateur. But we like talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>US Junior Anmeter because it's these young kids that one

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<v Speaker 2>day we're probably going to see at a different level.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what's been cool about what we do.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like I had never had thought about this,

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<v Speaker 1>But do you do you guys, Taylor the broadcast differently

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<v Speaker 1>for the US Open, knowing that you have, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>millions of casual fans versus say, like the US Senior

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<v Speaker 1>Women's Open, where you know, like only diehard fans watching.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a little bit. I mean, you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to speak for our producer in Joe and Zinger

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<v Speaker 2>and those guys, you know, but I would say that

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<v Speaker 2>there was a lot of people on Friday afternoon of

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<v Speaker 2>the US Open that we're complaining on social media about

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<v Speaker 2>our coverage because we were showing too much Tiger. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's one of those things like we're going to show

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<v Speaker 2>Tiger's round on a Friday, you know, with Tiger playing

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<v Speaker 2>on a US Open for the first time and actually

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<v Speaker 2>having a chance to be competitive. Granted he wasn't competitive

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<v Speaker 2>at that US Open because he made a triple on

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<v Speaker 2>the first hole, but you know, for him to be

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<v Speaker 2>healthy and have a chance to win events headed in

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<v Speaker 2>and to be this big story coming in and the

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<v Speaker 2>group he was playing with, you know, that was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be the story we were going to tell on

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<v Speaker 2>a Friday. You know, We're not going to spend that

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<v Speaker 2>much time on a Sunday if you hadn't made a cut,

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<v Speaker 2>because the focus in the story there is about the

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<v Speaker 2>person that's winning. But you know, on Friday, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we've got we've got casual sports fans that are tuning

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<v Speaker 2>in to see Tiger Woods play and you know, with

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<v Speaker 2>not many storylines happening at that time, you know, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the way we're going to go down. And if that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if a diehard golf person wants to see

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Eduardo, you know Mullinari play a hole, it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean, I hate to do this too

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<v Speaker 2>on a Friday, but you're just gonna have to wait

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<v Speaker 2>around for the weekend because that's when you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>a chance to see that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I see it because I got all

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<v Speaker 1>my college buddies are like non golfers. There are golfers,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're very very very very casual golfers, And like

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<v Speaker 1>our group text like I only get texts about golf win.

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<v Speaker 1>Tiger's in the hunt exactly like and they're like, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think do you think he's gonna win? And

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, you know, like that makes me realize, like

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<v Speaker 1>how like it gets you out of the bubble that

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<v Speaker 1>you live in as a diehard golfer or covering golf,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's so important to have the perspective of, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>like this is really important for the majority of our audience,

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<v Speaker 1>because like you know, that's the that's the majority of

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<v Speaker 1>those that us open Fridays. I mean, you get, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to expose so many people to the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Right and it's and it's prime time, and it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>outside New York and it's on this it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the only it was the only I mean, with the

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<v Speaker 2>World Cup not yet starting with the NBA playoffs and

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<v Speaker 2>NHL Playoffs being done. You know, we were the we

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<v Speaker 2>were the game that week. You know, we were the

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<v Speaker 2>sports game. And uh and you're like, you know, people

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<v Speaker 2>are going to turn on something that night. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you're a sports fan and you see Golf Live, you

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<v Speaker 2>know on Fox, it's like I'm going to turn this

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<v Speaker 2>on and Tiger Woods is there, You're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>turn it off, you know. So, I mean there's definitely

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<v Speaker 2>a business component to that stuff, and there's definitely a

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<v Speaker 2>level of showcasing those types of players at those times.

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<v Speaker 2>And as you said, I mean, when we get to

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<v Speaker 2>the women's Senior or the you know, girls junior or

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<v Speaker 2>the boys junior, you know, we're going to show the

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<v Speaker 2>golf that's happening in the competitive matches. It's funny. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>We had and it was it the US Amter. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was US ambiteror last week, and you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>only have so many cameras and we only have so

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<v Speaker 2>much staff out there for these events because people might

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<v Speaker 2>not know this, but to put on a golf telecast

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<v Speaker 2>that actually costs money and so I didn't know that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's weird, isn't it. And there was one match at

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<v Speaker 2>the end that we weren't showing at all early and

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<v Speaker 2>there were people on Twitter that were kind of and

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<v Speaker 2>there was like two people on Twitter that were complaining

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<v Speaker 2>to us about it. But you know, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>get it if it's your friend or your buddy out

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<v Speaker 2>there playing, and we want to showcase everybody. And we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to eventually get to that because we have a window.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to have to show these matches and it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be if it's the last match out, it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the one that fills. But it's just

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<v Speaker 2>so funny. Some of the times you get the people

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<v Speaker 2>that complain about certain stuff and you're like, we're showing

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<v Speaker 2>commercial free coverage of the US Amateur from Pebble with

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<v Speaker 2>some of these camera angles that nobody's ever seen yet

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<v Speaker 2>they're still going, why are you not showing this match?

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<v Speaker 2>Like sorry, man, I mean, Cole Hammer's playing, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Cole Hammers like this next? What we to be kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the next you know, big thing in young American golf.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, if he's playing a match and he's playing, well,

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<v Speaker 2>we're probably gonna show a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Of his match that could something else, huh.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean just that match, that semi final match, and

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<v Speaker 2>I had I had the the the US Amateur champion

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<v Speaker 2>on on my podcast, but you know, chatting with him

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit about that. That match between those two,

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<v Speaker 2>Victor and Cole that was as good a golf as

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen this year. I mean, they were playing unbelievable

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<v Speaker 2>and they were making putts on top of each other,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, Cole Hammer hung in there and Victor

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<v Speaker 2>hovelin Berdie's his last five holes, you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's just a reminder to people, as I always say,

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<v Speaker 2>these amateurs are amateur by word only you know, with

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<v Speaker 2>how much they practice in every all of the technology

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<v Speaker 2>they have around themselves, they've got the ability to go

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<v Speaker 2>out there and fire numbers. I mean, you look at it.

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<v Speaker 2>Braden Thornberry, who you know nearly wins you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>PGA Tour event. I mean, there's these guys out there

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<v Speaker 2>that that are really really close to being on that level,

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<v Speaker 2>if not already to that level, and they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get to that level quick the moment they turned professional.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just a big, big difference than what golf

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<v Speaker 2>looked like ten years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look at Nieman. He's nineteen, he should be

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<v Speaker 1>a freshman in college, and.

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<v Speaker 2>He's unbelievable professionally. It's just stupid. It's it's there's a

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<v Speaker 2>level of confidence, and I wonder I'd love to know

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<v Speaker 2>if college coaches teach confidence in a different way, or

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<v Speaker 2>if they push confidence in a different way these days,

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<v Speaker 2>then maybe what they used to, you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you hear Paul Easinger talk a lot about the way

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<v Speaker 2>he played when he was, you know, in college, and

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<v Speaker 2>how he he always says he couldn't break seventy seven.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, this is a guy that was one

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<v Speaker 2>of the best players in the world for a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know that's not the case now. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're in college and you're shooting If you're in

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<v Speaker 2>college and you're shooting seventy five, you know, you're probably

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<v Speaker 2>not going to make the team ever, you know. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's just how that goes until you figure it out.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just wonder if there's a different conversation and

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<v Speaker 2>a different dialogue with the coaches now to say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to be great now, Like you can't be good,

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<v Speaker 2>You've got to be great now, because that's what it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to take.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy because you see it. I see it on

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<v Speaker 1>like at like a state level, like these kids and

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<v Speaker 1>what's happened with like amateur golf, Like if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>shoot like I remember when I was in college, Like

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<v Speaker 1>if I shot seventy seven, I was in the State AM,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, right, And nowadays it's like if you got

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<v Speaker 1>to shoot even par or better to get into the

0:20:17.080 --> 0:20:19.560
<v Speaker 1>state amp, you know. And there's so many kids that

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<v Speaker 1>are so good. I mean, I played golf with a

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<v Speaker 1>kid that's going to Illinois next year, you know, at

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<v Speaker 1>his USAM qualifier, he shot ten under over two rounds,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just like, I don't have ten I never

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<v Speaker 1>have done under the bag and this kid has at eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's it's it's silly, and it's only getting younger.

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<v Speaker 2>I always say when I play in those USAM or qualifiers,

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<v Speaker 2>us OAM qualifiers, whatever. And you know, I live in Arizona,

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<v Speaker 2>so a lot of SU kids, or if I'm done

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<v Speaker 2>in two, so on, a lot of you of A kids,

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<v Speaker 2>And they all hang around after not because they want

0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:54.639
<v Speaker 2>to see what their friends shot or their teammates what

0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:57.440
<v Speaker 2>they shot, but it's because they know their teammates shot

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<v Speaker 2>something good enough to at least be in the conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're just waiting to see what that number is.

0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:04.800
<v Speaker 2>That's what's crazy. Is it's not hey would you shoot? Hey,

0:21:04.800 --> 0:21:07.280
<v Speaker 2>how'd you play? It's it's you know, how low was it?

0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:10.080
<v Speaker 2>Was it four? Was it five? It's it's an expectation

0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:11.480
<v Speaker 2>to go out there and do it. And I think

0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:14.480
<v Speaker 2>that's why you're seeing so many amateurs in these events,

0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:17.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean there's there's nineteen amateurs or twenty

0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:19.840
<v Speaker 2>nine ameters at the US Open. It was crazy how

0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:21.840
<v Speaker 2>many of those guys there were, and they get there

0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:24.840
<v Speaker 2>expecting to do well. You know, it's not just to

0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:28.480
<v Speaker 2>show up and get your pending and walk around between

0:21:28.520 --> 0:21:30.560
<v Speaker 2>the ropes and smile of fans. I mean they're there

0:21:31.000 --> 0:21:33.200
<v Speaker 2>expecting to make the weekend and to play well enough

0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:35.240
<v Speaker 2>to get in the conversation. And I said it this

0:21:35.320 --> 0:21:37.080
<v Speaker 2>year and it was wrong. But I'll tell you this,

0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:39.520
<v Speaker 2>we are going to get to a place at some

0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:42.320
<v Speaker 2>point where I truly believe an amateur is going to

0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:44.960
<v Speaker 2>be at least not maybe in the hunt come the weekend,

0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:47.399
<v Speaker 2>but I could see, you know, at top ten or

0:21:47.440 --> 0:21:49.040
<v Speaker 2>a couple of amateurs in the top ten in the

0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:52.000
<v Speaker 2>coming years, because the confidence level just continues to soar.

0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:56.160
<v Speaker 1>I've kind of been waiting for an amateur when at

0:21:56.200 --> 0:21:59.160
<v Speaker 1>like the professional level. You know, a couple of years

0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:01.639
<v Speaker 1>ago we had Paul in the final group of the Open.

0:22:03.240 --> 0:22:06.199
<v Speaker 1>Then we had Morikawa was in a playoff on a

0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:10.640
<v Speaker 1>web tour, and Thornberry Sam Burns was head of top ten.

0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Both those guys, you know, like it's it's just a

0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:16.440
<v Speaker 1>matter of time before one of these kids wins one

0:22:16.440 --> 0:22:17.120
<v Speaker 1>of these things.

0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Didn't Summer Hayes win something as an amateur.

0:22:20.720 --> 0:22:24.720
<v Speaker 5>I think he won a web. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>With you, but it's you know what's funny is I'm

0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:29.119
<v Speaker 2>reading the match right now and I've never read it before.

0:22:29.160 --> 0:22:31.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, somebody wanted to know what took you so long.

0:22:31.520 --> 0:22:33.080
<v Speaker 1>That's a question from Mike McGee.

0:22:33.080 --> 0:22:35.359
<v Speaker 2>People that were not happy about that, and I'm like, listen, sorry,

0:22:35.400 --> 0:22:37.200
<v Speaker 2>I just I mean, I've just never got around reading

0:22:37.200 --> 0:22:40.760
<v Speaker 2>it and and I'm reading it right now, and it's funny.

0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:43.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, the dialogue about the amateur golfer in that book.

0:22:43.880 --> 0:22:46.439
<v Speaker 2>Of course, you know this is happening in the in

0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:48.280
<v Speaker 2>the in the thirties and the forties and the fifties,

0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:51.600
<v Speaker 2>but the dialogue around the idea of the amateur was

0:22:51.640 --> 0:22:56.240
<v Speaker 2>this gentleman game, and it's it's turning. It's not because

0:22:56.720 --> 0:22:59.159
<v Speaker 2>the golf's going back to this gentleman level of I'm

0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:00.879
<v Speaker 2>going to be an amate golf because it's you know,

0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:02.439
<v Speaker 2>you can make more money there, for goodness says we

0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:05.479
<v Speaker 2>know that's not true, but I do. I'm very interested

0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:09.600
<v Speaker 2>in the amateur competing in these events again, because I

0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:13.000
<v Speaker 2>truly think there's a chance that this could be a thing.

0:23:13.080 --> 0:23:15.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what do you think, you know, the the

0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:19.040
<v Speaker 2>USGA would do in the Buddy Marucci's of the world

0:23:19.400 --> 0:23:21.320
<v Speaker 2>would do if we had an amateur the final group

0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:23.360
<v Speaker 2>of the US Open. I mean, it would be unbelievable.

0:23:23.359 --> 0:23:25.199
<v Speaker 2>I mean it would be it would It would almost

0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:30.000
<v Speaker 2>it would make you know, kind of their decision for

0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:32.919
<v Speaker 2>all these years. It would make it almost kind of

0:23:32.960 --> 0:23:35.280
<v Speaker 2>like worth the weight to see if this could happen,

0:23:35.320 --> 0:23:37.200
<v Speaker 2>because I truly think it could. I think we could

0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:39.399
<v Speaker 2>see an amateur maybe not win, but I could definitely

0:23:39.400 --> 0:23:40.800
<v Speaker 2>see an amateur compete.

0:23:41.320 --> 0:23:41.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think.

0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:44.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look at I mean, like Cole Hammer is

0:23:44.400 --> 0:23:48.359
<v Speaker 1>a perfect example. You know, he's uh Texas. You know,

0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:51.199
<v Speaker 1>he's kind of like the next phenom for Texas after

0:23:51.480 --> 0:23:54.919
<v Speaker 1>they had you know, Speith was the young phenom and

0:23:54.960 --> 0:23:57.399
<v Speaker 1>then they had Hostler, who is you know. Hostler is

0:23:57.440 --> 0:24:00.080
<v Speaker 1>like a good example of that because he was in

0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:02.639
<v Speaker 1>contention at that US Open at Olympic.

0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:03.160
<v Speaker 2>Club, right.

0:24:04.840 --> 0:24:07.280
<v Speaker 1>So, I mean it's a matter of time. I mean,

0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:10.960
<v Speaker 1>it's the whole amateur game has changed. It's it's a

0:24:11.000 --> 0:24:14.640
<v Speaker 1>fascinating thing with like mid ams and and ams and

0:24:14.920 --> 0:24:17.960
<v Speaker 1>like I think the gap between you know, the mid

0:24:17.960 --> 0:24:20.400
<v Speaker 1>am and the and the regular am, which is now

0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:24.359
<v Speaker 1>college kids and high schoolers is getting wider than ever.

0:24:25.480 --> 0:24:28.800
<v Speaker 2>I absolutely agree. I mean it's like I love trying

0:24:28.800 --> 0:24:31.280
<v Speaker 2>to do the USA and are qualifying, but it's like, like,

0:24:31.440 --> 0:24:33.760
<v Speaker 2>I got will you do it out there with those guys?

0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:35.720
<v Speaker 2>Come on, Like it is a waste of my time.

0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:37.960
<v Speaker 2>It's like I get out there and I shoot, Like

0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:40.639
<v Speaker 2>you said, I shoot a great round of seventy six.

0:24:41.440 --> 0:24:43.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, all right, well see you guys, and I

0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:44.160
<v Speaker 2>sixty four.

0:24:44.600 --> 0:24:44.959
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Well that's the thing is like seventy two seventy is

0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:51.280
<v Speaker 1>I remember that, even like four years ago I had

0:24:51.440 --> 0:24:54.679
<v Speaker 1>I had a good USAM where I missed by like

0:24:54.720 --> 0:24:57.199
<v Speaker 1>a shot, and I shot I think, I want to

0:24:57.400 --> 0:25:01.560
<v Speaker 1>say shot seventy three seventy one, you know, And and it's

0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:04.320
<v Speaker 1>like nowadays that's like just like pack up your bags.

0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:08.479
<v Speaker 1>You got no chance. You're like trunk slamming. I mean,

0:25:08.520 --> 0:25:11.639
<v Speaker 1>the kids are trunk slamming at that and that was

0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:12.560
<v Speaker 1>like five years ago.

0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:15.480
<v Speaker 2>Uber slamming. They're uber slamming. They'll get out of there.

0:25:15.640 --> 0:25:16.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:20.879
<v Speaker 1>So in terms of amateur golf, you know, it seems

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:23.119
<v Speaker 1>like you had a great time at the AM. Do

0:25:23.160 --> 0:25:26.440
<v Speaker 1>you do you think more amateur golf coverage is coming.

0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:30.520
<v Speaker 2>I would like to see it, you know, the Golf Channel,

0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:33.159
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, for US, I mean, obviously we

0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:35.600
<v Speaker 2>do quite a bit of am or golf. I am

0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:37.639
<v Speaker 2>actually surprised the Golf Channel doesn't do more of it.

0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:40.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm surprised that the Western AM's not televised.

0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:46.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm surprised. I'd be I would. I don't understand why

0:25:46.640 --> 0:25:51.000
<v Speaker 2>there's not. And I mean do they call them amateur majors?

0:25:51.040 --> 0:25:53.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, can we talk about what a major would

0:25:53.000 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 2>be at ander Golf? But there's you know, there's four

0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:57.680
<v Speaker 2>or five events that you could do the coverage from

0:25:57.720 --> 0:26:00.080
<v Speaker 2>start to finish, and kudo's to Golf Channel on the

0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:02.919
<v Speaker 2>collegiate coverage, they do a great job with that, and

0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:05.400
<v Speaker 2>I just feel like, why wouldn't you do this? Because

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:08.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, the US Amateur's my favorite event we cover

0:26:08.359 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 2>all year. I mean, and it's not even close. I mean,

0:26:10.840 --> 0:26:14.439
<v Speaker 2>both the Women's and the US Amateur. The storylines, the play,

0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:17.960
<v Speaker 2>the names that come out of it, the names you remember,

0:26:18.080 --> 0:26:20.159
<v Speaker 2>the guys you see when they're fourteen and fifteen, they

0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:24.199
<v Speaker 2>get through that eventually are eighteen and are competing. You know,

0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:26.119
<v Speaker 2>you think about our first US Open cole Hammer's a

0:26:26.160 --> 0:26:29.760
<v Speaker 2>fifteen year old US Open gets into that, and now

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:31.800
<v Speaker 2>he's the favorite coming into the US Amateur and he's

0:26:31.800 --> 0:26:34.800
<v Speaker 2>a co medalist. You know, I love watching and walking

0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:39.000
<v Speaker 2>those storylines through year after year, and I don't see

0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:42.879
<v Speaker 2>how passionate golf people wouldn't be into that. I mean, again,

0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:45.680
<v Speaker 2>you know there's budgets for television stuff and live events.

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 2>Live golf is the biggest budget of any sport because

0:26:48.520 --> 0:26:50.960
<v Speaker 2>there's so many cameras you need on different places. But

0:26:51.600 --> 0:26:53.760
<v Speaker 2>I'd watched the Western Dam. I mean, you've watched the

0:26:53.760 --> 0:26:55.680
<v Speaker 2>Western Dam. I'd be glued to it, you know. I mean,

0:26:56.960 --> 0:26:59.360
<v Speaker 2>this would be must watch TV for me. And with

0:26:59.400 --> 0:27:01.600
<v Speaker 2>the with the way the PGA Tour is going to

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:05.000
<v Speaker 2>the passionate golf fan and the level of kind of

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:08.680
<v Speaker 2>intrigue that comes with the PJ Tour or lack thereof,

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:11.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think we're going to be looking for

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 2>more golf to watch on TV. And to me, amer

0:27:13.640 --> 0:27:15.200
<v Speaker 2>Golf makes the most sense it.

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:21.520
<v Speaker 6>I feel like they could do low budget telecast do

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:24.240
<v Speaker 6>like we saw it when the guys were on strike

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:28.360
<v Speaker 6>this year, rise as Sony, Like they really only need

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:30.720
<v Speaker 6>a couple cameras to do it effectively, you.

0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:33.199
<v Speaker 2>Know, yeah, yeah, I mean it's yeah. I mean, I

0:27:33.200 --> 0:27:35.560
<v Speaker 2>guess you're right like to see it. Sure, I mean,

0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 2>you'd be hard pressed to find somebody in TV that

0:27:37.880 --> 0:27:39.639
<v Speaker 2>would that would be willing to kind of take the

0:27:39.800 --> 0:27:41.679
<v Speaker 2>we're going to do a low budget approach to it.

0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:44.879
<v Speaker 2>But you know, you you do the back nine of

0:27:44.880 --> 0:27:46.800
<v Speaker 2>the Western I mean, you know, you don't have to

0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:48.760
<v Speaker 2>have as many cameras. It's almost like the Masters in

0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:54.000
<v Speaker 2>the old days. I think if that happened, inevitably, more

0:27:54.040 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 2>invites would come for that stuff.

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:55.760
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:58.119
<v Speaker 2>That's something I always wish would happen. I wish there

0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:00.680
<v Speaker 2>was more more invites to things for these guys that

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 2>win these huge events, because these huge events are very,

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:05.959
<v Speaker 2>very hard to win. You know, the Western am is,

0:28:06.040 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, the hardest event in the world to win,

0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:12.399
<v Speaker 2>professional or amateur or otherwise. And you should get invited

0:28:12.440 --> 0:28:14.800
<v Speaker 2>to this big stuff if you win that thing. It's crazy.

0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I don't understand getting.

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:18.960
<v Speaker 2>The US Open and the Masters in the PG Championship

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 2>like that should be an honor to come with it.

0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 2>And I feel like if the TV, if TV followed that,

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:26.080
<v Speaker 2>maybe there'd be a better chance of that happening.

0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it would be cool, I think with I think

0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:31.720
<v Speaker 1>it's we're going to see more of it in the future.

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:34.520
<v Speaker 1>It would be you know, there's like, I don't know,

0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:37.119
<v Speaker 1>the Pacific Coast AM is always a big one, you know,

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 1>the Sonnyanna. You know, there's there's North South, like there

0:28:41.680 --> 0:28:43.480
<v Speaker 1>are a lot of really cool events that these kids

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:46.680
<v Speaker 1>are so good, that's the thing, you know. You like,

0:28:47.240 --> 0:28:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I watched the Western AM. I didn't go this year.

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 1>I had a bunch of stuff, but the year before,

0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:53.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, and these guys go around and shoot like

0:28:53.200 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 1>sixty three at Skochie in Chicago, which is like, like

0:28:57.240 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 1>sixty three is like not what I expected.

0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's it's it's a joke. But no, I

0:29:03.280 --> 0:29:05.800
<v Speaker 2>you know again, you know, I love being a part

0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:07.960
<v Speaker 2>of something like the US Open because it's the US Open,

0:29:08.360 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 2>but you know, for me to to get a chance

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 2>to do these you know, quote unquote lower level events

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:16.520
<v Speaker 2>at the US Junior or the Curtis Cup, things like that,

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:20.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, the passion in those events, the passion of

0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:22.840
<v Speaker 2>the golf and the passion of the win, and it's

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:25.120
<v Speaker 2>simply being a match win, you know, winning a mansion

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 2>moving on. You know, the passion there is what to

0:29:28.960 --> 0:29:32.320
<v Speaker 2>me you and I is Golf's like now, the golf's better.

0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:35.959
<v Speaker 2>But if I'm playing you for a ten dollars NASA,

0:29:36.880 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 2>we're not really playing for the money, you know, We're

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:41.240
<v Speaker 2>really playing for to the win.

0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, pick up basketball. It's like why you get

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:51.120
<v Speaker 1>past it's the competitiveness in terms of what do you

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 1>think the you you do the PGA Tour live stuff,

0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 1>so you're around the tour pros. What what do you

0:29:57.200 --> 0:29:59.880
<v Speaker 1>think the biggest difference between the top ams and the

0:30:00.440 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 1>your regular Joe Schmo tour player, say you're Billy Horsechell.

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 2>It's probably putting, and it's probably course management, I would say.

0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's not a ton of course management even

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:18.880
<v Speaker 2>on the PGA Tour anymore, but there's still a little

0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 2>bit of it, you know. I mean, I mean, I

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 2>know brooks Keefka doesn't really do that, but you know,

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:25.760
<v Speaker 2>there is a level of understanding when to attack and

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:29.640
<v Speaker 2>when not to. And I think you still see amateurs

0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:33.160
<v Speaker 2>at times, in big pressure moments, maybe make a decision

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:35.240
<v Speaker 2>they shouldn't have made because they think they've got to

0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:36.960
<v Speaker 2>win that hole and that's the last time. You know

0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:38.360
<v Speaker 2>what's funny is is I saw a lot of that

0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 2>with putting this week, or excuse me, this past week

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:43.440
<v Speaker 2>with Pebble Beach. Was I saw a lot on the

0:30:43.480 --> 0:30:46.560
<v Speaker 2>greens when a guy's two down or three down with

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 2>five to go and it's a birdie putt and they

0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:51.959
<v Speaker 2>gas at twelve feet by because they think they have

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 2>to make the birdie putt, not thinking themselves. If I

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:57.800
<v Speaker 2>three putt this, I'm oh, it's over. You know. Even

0:30:57.840 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 2>if I don't make this BIRDI putt and I've got

0:30:59.520 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 2>a couple to go, I could pull something off.

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 1>That's a fascinating thing that I think. I like, I

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:09.040
<v Speaker 1>always think about, like how I've learned about stuff, like

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 1>as I get older, Like I'm so much smarter now.

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm not nearly as good as I used to be,

0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 1>but I'm way better, if that makes sense, right, And

0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:19.360
<v Speaker 1>like one of the things people will be like, well, like, hey,

0:31:19.400 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, if I'm playing a two man game, they'll

0:31:21.880 --> 0:31:22.920
<v Speaker 1>be like, this this putt.

0:31:22.960 --> 0:31:24.440
<v Speaker 5>If it doesn't go in, it doesn't matter.

0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:26.680
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, and I say back, I'm like, it's

0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 1>going in the same speed as if it was going

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:31.520
<v Speaker 1>to go in. If this if the next putt really mattered, Like,

0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:34.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't believe in this whole making putts like you

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 1>hit it harder to make it, Like, just hit the

0:31:36.800 --> 0:31:39.080
<v Speaker 1>putt the same speed you'd usually hit it, you.

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 2>Know, absolutely, you know that's something that I do, and

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:50.040
<v Speaker 2>I've done poorly in especially best ball qualifiers. My buddy

0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 2>Ashton Woods and I have yet to qualify for the

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:53.200
<v Speaker 2>four ball. I think we missed out by a shot

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 2>a couple of years ago. But I tend I feel

0:31:56.200 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 2>like I have at times felt like these putts are

0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:03.800
<v Speaker 2>do or die when I'm the guy hitting a birdie putt,

0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 2>and if I was playing just by myself, I wouldn't

0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:10.680
<v Speaker 2>do that. So I've almost started to try to approach

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:13.240
<v Speaker 2>those types of things, a two man thing in particular,

0:32:14.080 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 2>just trying to play golf all my own, thinking that

0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:18.080
<v Speaker 2>it's you know, it's exactly what it'd be like if

0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 2>it was a strokeplay event, because there's so much pressure.

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:22.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I'm the last one with a BIRDI putt.

0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:23.680
<v Speaker 2>I well, I've got to make it, you know, And

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 2>you're like, well, yeah, but I mean you want to

0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:27.480
<v Speaker 2>make every putty you hit, don't you, So why wouldn't

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:28.520
<v Speaker 2>you just roll the same way.

0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:31.640
<v Speaker 5>You're trying to make every part right exactly.

0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean you're trying to make You're trying to make

0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 2>every putt or that that's makeable, right. I mean there's

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 2>definitely puts you know you're not that aren't a realistic opportunity.

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, you're trying to make every puts, So hit it,

0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:44.720
<v Speaker 2>hit it to make it, but also hit it knowing

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:47.800
<v Speaker 2>that you know it's it's got to go in, as

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:49.760
<v Speaker 2>you said, with a certain speed. You're not just taking

0:32:49.760 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 2>the breakout in gas and a ten foot you know.

0:32:52.880 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I heard somebody told me that they their trick for

0:32:56.960 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 1>the two the best ball tournaments as they play a

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 1>mat against each other.

0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 2>What's that? Any starts say that again?

0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:06.800
<v Speaker 5>I heard this trick.

0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:09.560
<v Speaker 1>This guy told me he's he's had a ton of

0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:12.760
<v Speaker 1>success in two man tournaments and him and his partner

0:33:13.240 --> 0:33:14.960
<v Speaker 1>play matches against each other.

0:33:16.520 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Interesting, so internally between the two they play against, they

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 2>have like they have probably.

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:24.640
<v Speaker 1>For me, they have like a betting game between the

0:33:24.680 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 1>two of them during while they're playing together in a tournament.

0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 1>So the other each other are just trying to beat

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:31.480
<v Speaker 1>the ship out of each other.

0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:33.800
<v Speaker 2>The whole time. Yeah. I mean it's probably so smart.

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:35.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, and then you get done and you go

0:33:35.400 --> 0:33:37.400
<v Speaker 2>we either qualified or we didn't, but we had fun

0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:40.640
<v Speaker 2>doing it. There's Yeah. The idea that is it gets uh,

0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:44.360
<v Speaker 2>the pressure can the pressure can make you play golf

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 2>a way you never play golf. And it's that's the

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:48.760
<v Speaker 2>big difference in people that can do it and people

0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:49.160
<v Speaker 2>that can't.

0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 5>You know, Yeah, it's all it's all comfort.

0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing is like the pressure makes you uncomfortable,

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 1>and uncomfortable is when people just do bad. It's that's

0:33:58.440 --> 0:34:01.160
<v Speaker 1>the that's the trick to tournament off is getting comfortable.

0:34:02.480 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean there's been plenty of times where I'm not

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 2>comfortable and the scores absolutely reflected.

0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:08.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's awful.

0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:10.160
<v Speaker 1>There's nothing worse than when you're on the first t

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:11.560
<v Speaker 1>and you know you're not ready.

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 5>To play in the tournament.

0:34:14.560 --> 0:34:18.880
<v Speaker 1>So what was your favorite course to cover this year

0:34:19.040 --> 0:34:22.440
<v Speaker 1>on the USGA circuit And what was your favorite course

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:25.880
<v Speaker 1>that you played either USGA or non USGA course.

0:34:27.680 --> 0:34:29.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying it's just because I'm talking to you.

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:31.839
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think covering Chicago golf, getting a chance

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 2>to see it for a first time, getting a chance

0:34:34.560 --> 0:34:38.120
<v Speaker 2>to show it with the cameras we had and allow

0:34:38.160 --> 0:34:40.399
<v Speaker 2>people kind of a glimpse into that place. I think,

0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:42.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, there's probably two or three places in the

0:34:42.400 --> 0:34:45.360
<v Speaker 2>country that maybe or as exclusive in the sense of

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:49.040
<v Speaker 2>eyeballs on at the Chicago Golf So I think mixing

0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 2>that with the fact that it was a first USGA

0:34:51.600 --> 0:34:54.040
<v Speaker 2>championship and you were a part of that, that was

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:58.560
<v Speaker 2>pretty special. I felt like our team kind of approached

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:00.560
<v Speaker 2>it that way. You know, they went in to it knowing,

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, this is this is gonna be the you know,

0:35:02.120 --> 0:35:05.600
<v Speaker 2>there's not many first USGA championships, and to get it,

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:07.439
<v Speaker 2>to get to do it on Chicago Golf and then

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:10.880
<v Speaker 2>my favorite course I played on the road, you know,

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:12.919
<v Speaker 2>I played. Didn't play a ton of golf this year.

0:35:14.200 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 2>Last year we played golf all the time. It was crazy.

0:35:16.960 --> 0:35:22.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean we played Prairie Dunes twice one week. Last year,

0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:27.120
<v Speaker 2>we played Myopia and Essex and all these crazy places.

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 2>This year, didn't play a ton of golf. I did

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:35.920
<v Speaker 2>get a chance to play Fishers during media Day, and

0:35:35.960 --> 0:35:37.759
<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, just in the sense of a

0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:42.400
<v Speaker 2>day and an experience, that was probably the best, just

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 2>because you know, there's you know, there's going to play

0:35:45.080 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 2>an elite level golf course that's in elite level condition.

0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Fishers is not going to be an elite level condition

0:35:52.120 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 2>just because it's just that's just not what it is.

0:35:54.239 --> 0:35:57.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, It's it's in it's in good condition, and

0:35:57.040 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 2>it's a piece of property that I've always wanted to see.

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 2>And you know, we did the whole thing. We did

0:36:02.160 --> 0:36:03.840
<v Speaker 2>the ferry and the boat and the driving and so

0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:05.799
<v Speaker 2>it's an entire day to go see this kind of

0:36:06.200 --> 0:36:09.360
<v Speaker 2>gem of a golf course. So that was probably my favorite.

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 2>I had a hell of a good time doing that.

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:15.359
<v Speaker 2>And then you know, I mean I got I got

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:16.560
<v Speaker 2>to play you know, I got to play in that

0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:18.440
<v Speaker 2>National and Cypress. You know, I mean these are two

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:21.279
<v Speaker 2>of the best golf courses in the country, and so

0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:23.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean you kind of take your pick on those.

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:25.239
<v Speaker 2>I almost feel like they're kind of similar, you know,

0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 2>they're they're a small, smaller ballparks next to these championship

0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:33.760
<v Speaker 2>golf courses that host championship events. Yet they're the ones

0:36:33.800 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 2>that everybody tries to get on. You know, everybody wants

0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:37.920
<v Speaker 2>to get on National and everybody wants to get on Cypress.

0:36:38.000 --> 0:36:42.600
<v Speaker 2>Overplaying a pebble, and so you know, that's what you know.

0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:44.960
<v Speaker 2>People I had a friend asked me, is Cyprus your

0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:48.640
<v Speaker 2>favorite course you ever played? And you know, I don't

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:51.720
<v Speaker 2>know what that means. I don't know what my favorite

0:36:51.760 --> 0:36:55.239
<v Speaker 2>course is. I know what my favorite experiences were, and

0:36:55.760 --> 0:36:58.120
<v Speaker 2>I almost vote, voted and rate it more on that.

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:00.799
<v Speaker 2>You know, the experiences of the people you're with and

0:37:00.840 --> 0:37:02.880
<v Speaker 2>how much they're into it, and how fun you're having

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:06.880
<v Speaker 2>and how much you're taking in the course. You know,

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:09.440
<v Speaker 2>how often are you pulling out a camera? I think

0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:11.279
<v Speaker 2>is something that is that I've really started to be

0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:14.040
<v Speaker 2>cognizant of. And I know, with you and i's jobs

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:16.960
<v Speaker 2>and with plenty of people around, that's part of it.

0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:20.480
<v Speaker 2>So one of my kind of rules is, like I

0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:22.120
<v Speaker 2>I try to pull I try not to look at

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:24.799
<v Speaker 2>my or pull my phone or camera out at least

0:37:24.880 --> 0:37:27.440
<v Speaker 2>on the entire front nine, because I know it's you know,

0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:29.120
<v Speaker 2>we live in a world where we have to kind

0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:31.640
<v Speaker 2>of post this stuff. But I don't want to be

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:33.239
<v Speaker 2>on that, you know, I want to be breathing in

0:37:33.280 --> 0:37:35.320
<v Speaker 2>and looking around and enjoying the experience.

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:38.240
<v Speaker 1>So my new thing is, like I love the places

0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 1>that are like the strictest about no cell phones. I

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:44.440
<v Speaker 1>actually like I love when I leave my phone in

0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:47.680
<v Speaker 1>my car and it's just gone and I just get.

0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:48.280
<v Speaker 6>To play golf.

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:48.719
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:52.719
<v Speaker 1>That's it's funny how it's changed, how golf isn't like

0:37:52.840 --> 0:37:53.879
<v Speaker 1>just pure golf like it.

0:37:53.920 --> 0:37:56.239
<v Speaker 2>Used to be. Well, and but you know the thing

0:37:56.280 --> 0:37:59.479
<v Speaker 2>again is, you know, for me, you know, I've kind

0:37:59.520 --> 0:38:02.600
<v Speaker 2>of got I got to post the golf that I

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:08.120
<v Speaker 2>play because it's part of what we do, and I

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:10.160
<v Speaker 2>have I'm with you, I've kind of gone one ady

0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:12.960
<v Speaker 2>on it. I mean, I don't I hate. I hate.

0:38:13.560 --> 0:38:15.840
<v Speaker 2>I hate interrupting a moment of a round at a

0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:18.520
<v Speaker 2>place like Cyprus to take a picture, even though I

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:20.560
<v Speaker 2>want to take pictures because every hole is awesome, you know.

0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:22.799
<v Speaker 2>So you know, I want to have my phone out

0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 2>the entire time, but I I won't, and I don't

0:38:27.200 --> 0:38:30.960
<v Speaker 2>need to because you know, when when when freaking Ben

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:33.440
<v Speaker 2>Hogan was walking around Cyprus Point, he wouldn't taken pictures,

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:35.879
<v Speaker 2>you know, and he could remember every hole on every

0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:38.520
<v Speaker 2>step and every bump on every green because he was

0:38:38.520 --> 0:38:40.960
<v Speaker 2>taking it in with different sensory details, and so like

0:38:41.000 --> 0:38:44.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, for me, it's it's reminding myself that a

0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:47.440
<v Speaker 2>picture doesn't define the fact that I was there. You know,

0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't need a picture to say I played Cyprus point.

0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:53.440
<v Speaker 2>I played Cyber's point because I played Cyber's point And

0:38:53.480 --> 0:38:55.239
<v Speaker 2>There'll be moments from that round that I remember the

0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:57.439
<v Speaker 2>rest of my life. And uh. And so I'm trying,

0:38:57.480 --> 0:39:00.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm with you. I'm really really trying to be on

0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:04.880
<v Speaker 2>my phone, if at all, maybe one or two holes

0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 2>to take a picture or two and then put it

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:06.960
<v Speaker 2>back away.

0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:08.280
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:39:09.080 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 1>So with uh, with pebble, Uh and next year having

0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:15.960
<v Speaker 1>the US Open, do you expect to see much changes

0:39:16.080 --> 0:39:20.600
<v Speaker 1>to the course from us AM to US Open?

0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:21.279
<v Speaker 4>And Uh?

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:25.480
<v Speaker 1>How how helpful was it to get to call it

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:26.799
<v Speaker 1>there and then have it there?

0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Next year, the rough will be higher and the roff

0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:33.240
<v Speaker 2>will be thicker. It'll it'll play a little bit different,

0:39:34.000 --> 0:39:37.480
<v Speaker 2>just in the sense of scheduling. It was dry this week.

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean they hadn't had rains since April, so it

0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:42.680
<v Speaker 2>was dried and pretty firm, and the greens were firm.

0:39:43.400 --> 0:39:45.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm hoping you see a little bit about that. We'll

0:39:45.320 --> 0:39:48.360
<v Speaker 2>have well, I think we'll have more. I think the

0:39:48.400 --> 0:39:50.520
<v Speaker 2>winds will be more swirly when we're there. We didn't

0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:53.239
<v Speaker 2>get a ton of wind during the few days there

0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:55.799
<v Speaker 2>at Pebble, but I would say the roughs up. Having

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:58.919
<v Speaker 2>an opportunity to be there and cover it and get

0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:00.920
<v Speaker 2>a feel for the way people play certain holes in

0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:04.320
<v Speaker 2>certain shots and teas they might play certain days. I

0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:08.359
<v Speaker 2>mean it's impossible to explain how beneficial that is for us.

0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:10.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's crazy good. I mean, we know where

0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:12.520
<v Speaker 2>the booth is, like, we know where the boot's gonna be.

0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:16.120
<v Speaker 2>You know, we know where these amateur kids, where these

0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:18.960
<v Speaker 2>kids are hitting their driver on eighteen. I mean, you'll

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:23.239
<v Speaker 2>never in fifty years of watching the AT and T

0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:26.000
<v Speaker 2>you'll never see draws where these kids were on eighteen,

0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:27.640
<v Speaker 2>just because it's a different time of year. I mean,

0:40:27.640 --> 0:40:30.359
<v Speaker 2>they were thirty past the tree, forty past the tree

0:40:31.000 --> 0:40:34.120
<v Speaker 2>hidden six irons and eighteen green. I mean, so it'll

0:40:34.160 --> 0:40:35.880
<v Speaker 2>be interested to see if it plays a little like

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 2>that in June, like it did, you know, in August. So,

0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:41.879
<v Speaker 2>but you know, I think we'll see it. I think

0:40:41.920 --> 0:40:46.280
<v Speaker 2>we'll see it play somewhat similar in the sense of scoring,

0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:49.120
<v Speaker 2>because with the winds down, Pebble's gettable, and with the

0:40:49.160 --> 0:40:50.800
<v Speaker 2>winds up it plays really difficult.

0:40:51.120 --> 0:40:54.160
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, and I think those greens are so small too.

0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:57.960
<v Speaker 1>It's just crazy how tough that place is. For that's

0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:01.799
<v Speaker 1>a great example of a course offending part despite like

0:41:01.960 --> 0:41:02.960
<v Speaker 1>without yardage.

0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:05.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Absolutely, it's not a long golf course by any

0:41:05.600 --> 0:41:07.640
<v Speaker 2>stretch of the imagination. But if you put yourself in

0:41:07.760 --> 0:41:11.840
<v Speaker 2>one weird spot, you know, if you put yourself left

0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:15.080
<v Speaker 2>on nine or ten, it's you're you're scrambling to save

0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:17.439
<v Speaker 2>par despite having a note iron in your hand.

0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is the thing too, is like the uneven

0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:22.920
<v Speaker 1>lies out there like that. You know, you rarely have

0:41:23.080 --> 0:41:25.680
<v Speaker 1>like a flat lie. It's something I've noticed I play

0:41:25.960 --> 0:41:28.080
<v Speaker 1>less and less golf now, and I like, I know

0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:30.960
<v Speaker 1>I actually play like par three's exceptionally well.

0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:32.359
<v Speaker 5>And I thought about it the other day.

0:41:32.400 --> 0:41:34.120
<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, it's because it's like a dead

0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:38.200
<v Speaker 1>flat lie every time, you know, And it's like it

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:40.360
<v Speaker 1>gets so much harder when the ball is like above

0:41:40.480 --> 0:41:42.759
<v Speaker 1>or below your feet and you know you have like

0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:45.600
<v Speaker 1>a It's so weird how that little difference makes it.

0:41:45.640 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 1>But that that at the pro levels, like everything if

0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:51.319
<v Speaker 1>it's everything's flat, it's just target practice for these guys.

0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:53.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like when it's it's like when it's soft.

0:41:53.520 --> 0:41:55.440
<v Speaker 2>You know what I want to say this about pebble.

0:41:55.719 --> 0:41:58.680
<v Speaker 2>I used to talk a little bit of trash about one,

0:41:59.000 --> 0:42:02.279
<v Speaker 2>like everybody did. And you know two and it's a

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:04.920
<v Speaker 2>par five is kind of a gettable, kind of a whatever.

0:42:04.960 --> 0:42:10.040
<v Speaker 2>Par five. Pebble's awesome. It is awesome. There are like

0:42:10.840 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 2>it is. It is such an awesome walk around and

0:42:14.760 --> 0:42:17.560
<v Speaker 2>the views in the in the par threes, you know,

0:42:17.560 --> 0:42:20.640
<v Speaker 2>the kind of the different par threes you play, in

0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:23.279
<v Speaker 2>the shots you play. You know, I hadn't been there

0:42:23.320 --> 0:42:25.279
<v Speaker 2>in a while. I hadn't been a pebble probably in

0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:29.360
<v Speaker 2>six or seven years. And I just walking around that

0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:31.439
<v Speaker 2>place and drive around, you just you just forget how

0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:34.440
<v Speaker 2>how strategic fifteen and sixteen are. You know, these are

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:35.960
<v Speaker 2>holes that you're not going to see the ocean, but

0:42:36.360 --> 0:42:38.160
<v Speaker 2>they're there. You've got to put the ball in the

0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:40.520
<v Speaker 2>right spot to take advantage, and the greens defend, like

0:42:40.560 --> 0:42:45.120
<v Speaker 2>you said, and I was. I was massively impressed by it.

0:42:45.160 --> 0:42:47.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't spend a lot of time watching the pro

0:42:47.280 --> 0:42:50.160
<v Speaker 2>am on TV just because it's a lot of it's

0:42:50.200 --> 0:42:52.800
<v Speaker 2>a lot of non golf they show. But getting a

0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:54.520
<v Speaker 2>chance to kind of take that golf course in for

0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:56.279
<v Speaker 2>a few days of the Championship Golf Man, I was

0:42:56.800 --> 0:42:58.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm pumped for the US Open. I think it's gonna

0:42:58.400 --> 0:42:59.080
<v Speaker 2>be so awesome.

0:42:59.200 --> 0:43:01.400
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the is like overrated.

0:43:01.480 --> 0:43:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Take is so overblown, Like exactly, It's like it's in

0:43:06.520 --> 0:43:10.440
<v Speaker 1>this tier of golf courses, like I don't think about

0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:13.600
<v Speaker 1>like numbers, but rather like classes. And it's like Pebble

0:43:13.719 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 1>is the golf course that you get on a plane

0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:19.759
<v Speaker 1>and go play, you know, like if somebody says, hey,

0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:21.520
<v Speaker 1>we got a spot at Pebble and you don't have

0:43:21.600 --> 0:43:23.920
<v Speaker 1>to pay, like I'm getting on a plane tomorrow to

0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:24.400
<v Speaker 1>go play.

0:43:24.920 --> 0:43:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely absolutely, there's you know, there's six or seven holes

0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:34.320
<v Speaker 2>of pebble that are basically untouched. You know, there's nothing

0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:37.040
<v Speaker 2>that can really touch them, and and that's what makes

0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:38.960
<v Speaker 2>it fun. Also, the new T on ten is awesome.

0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:40.920
<v Speaker 2>I hope they played the new T the new T

0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:43.040
<v Speaker 2>on ten, but I bet they don't, but I wish

0:43:43.040 --> 0:43:43.359
<v Speaker 2>they would.

0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 1>They have that one on nine too, that's way down

0:43:46.320 --> 0:43:49.480
<v Speaker 1>to the right. I think I don't know if they

0:43:49.560 --> 0:43:53.320
<v Speaker 1>used it last week, but yeah, that stretch of holes

0:43:53.440 --> 0:43:56.960
<v Speaker 1>is unbelievable. So it's like it's probably the best stretch

0:43:57.000 --> 0:43:59.760
<v Speaker 1>of golf and you know, one of the best stretch

0:43:59.760 --> 0:44:04.520
<v Speaker 1>of off in North America. So I had KVV on

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:06.919
<v Speaker 1>the podcast a couple of weeks ago, and we talked

0:44:06.960 --> 0:44:11.160
<v Speaker 1>about Golf Star and what changes we would make to

0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:13.200
<v Speaker 1>the game. If you were the Golf Star, what's the

0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:14.319
<v Speaker 1>one change you'd make?

0:44:16.080 --> 0:44:19.960
<v Speaker 2>I would I would not be as afraid of match

0:44:20.000 --> 0:44:23.359
<v Speaker 2>play on the professional level as it seems like we are.

0:44:23.480 --> 0:44:25.160
<v Speaker 2>I would say that would probably be my first thing

0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:26.960
<v Speaker 2>I would. I would I would move to PG Championship

0:44:26.960 --> 0:44:29.920
<v Speaker 2>to match play immediately. I would probably make the Tour

0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:31.080
<v Speaker 2>Championship match play.

0:44:31.480 --> 0:44:33.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that should totally be match play.

0:44:34.120 --> 0:44:35.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I was thinking about the playoff because I

0:44:36.000 --> 0:44:39.480
<v Speaker 2>knew were going to talk a little playoffs and match

0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:42.960
<v Speaker 2>plays fear. It's TV based, of course, but you know

0:44:43.000 --> 0:44:45.799
<v Speaker 2>the match play fears. You get two guys that nobody

0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:47.480
<v Speaker 2>cares about in the finals, and then you're gonna get

0:44:47.480 --> 0:44:51.080
<v Speaker 2>bad ratings. The funny thing is, like the Tour Championships

0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:56.240
<v Speaker 2>thirty guys, and they're always pretty much ninety five percent

0:44:56.280 --> 0:44:59.160
<v Speaker 2>of guys you've heard of. I just don't understand what

0:44:59.160 --> 0:45:01.880
<v Speaker 2>the fear is of that. You know, seems like the

0:45:02.040 --> 0:45:05.560
<v Speaker 2>easiest event to make match play is a tour championship.

0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:10.040
<v Speaker 1>They're worried about, like the Satoshi Kadeira against Seawou cam

0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:11.240
<v Speaker 1>in the finals.

0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:14.279
<v Speaker 4>But but again, I mean, but that's you know, I

0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:19.960
<v Speaker 4>mean seem on the players like, yeah, it's like the

0:45:20.040 --> 0:45:21.920
<v Speaker 4>fear again the golf.

0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:25.719
<v Speaker 2>To me, the names are massively important. We talked about

0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:28.440
<v Speaker 2>Tiger on Friday at the US Open, and showing him

0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:32.200
<v Speaker 2>was big for golf and for the sport. But you know,

0:45:32.239 --> 0:45:35.400
<v Speaker 2>when you're playing, when you're watching anybody play for a

0:45:35.440 --> 0:45:37.200
<v Speaker 2>ton of a life changing amount of money, even for

0:45:37.239 --> 0:45:43.080
<v Speaker 2>these professionals, and you're watching in a mass play format, God,

0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:45.680
<v Speaker 2>it would be so awesome. I mean you look back, like,

0:45:46.040 --> 0:45:47.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, the FedEx Pil playoffs when they first started,

0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:49.880
<v Speaker 2>a little bit like the pebble take, it was easy

0:45:49.920 --> 0:45:53.080
<v Speaker 2>to bag on them. I flipped a little bit on them.

0:45:53.080 --> 0:45:55.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's four weeks. I wish they didn't have

0:45:55.680 --> 0:45:57.719
<v Speaker 2>the break. I wish it was just four straight because

0:45:57.719 --> 0:45:58.880
<v Speaker 2>I think it should be a little bit of an

0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:02.600
<v Speaker 2>endurance test as well. But you know, four weeks and

0:46:02.680 --> 0:46:04.880
<v Speaker 2>all the big guys play for four straight weeks, and

0:46:04.920 --> 0:46:06.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure that happens at any other time on

0:46:07.160 --> 0:46:09.440
<v Speaker 2>tour all year. And also if you look back over

0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:12.279
<v Speaker 2>the last few years, we've had some really fun finishes.

0:46:12.320 --> 0:46:15.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean Ryan Moore versus Rory was great, that Sander

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:18.239
<v Speaker 2>was great. You know, Justin was closed and Jordan had

0:46:18.239 --> 0:46:20.800
<v Speaker 2>a chance to maybe make it a Justin Jordan playoff

0:46:20.840 --> 0:46:22.200
<v Speaker 2>for the FedEx Cup, which would have been would have

0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:24.520
<v Speaker 2>been must have watched. You know. It's it's it's good,

0:46:24.560 --> 0:46:27.440
<v Speaker 2>it's for what it's supposed to do. It's intriguing. I

0:46:27.520 --> 0:46:29.720
<v Speaker 2>just think that if you made the Tour Championship match play,

0:46:30.200 --> 0:46:33.360
<v Speaker 2>you get to that final with a lot more online

0:46:33.360 --> 0:46:37.480
<v Speaker 2>than than anything else. These guys seeing that in that world, Yeah,

0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:38.000
<v Speaker 2>you could.

0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Go to thirty two guys instead of sixteen exactly, instead

0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:45.040
<v Speaker 1>of thirty So you go to thirty two and then

0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:48.360
<v Speaker 1>you take those thirty two and it's thirty two sixteen

0:46:48.520 --> 0:46:52.320
<v Speaker 1>eight four two, so it'd be five rounds and so

0:46:52.800 --> 0:46:56.200
<v Speaker 1>it starts on like starts on Wednesday instead of.

0:46:58.080 --> 0:46:58.560
<v Speaker 5>Thursday.

0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:02.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then you and then you you make you

0:47:02.880 --> 0:47:07.239
<v Speaker 2>make the gaps of pay pretty wide for make it

0:47:07.239 --> 0:47:09.600
<v Speaker 2>at the next day. So like if you get to

0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:12.400
<v Speaker 2>the final four, the gap is is it's a big,

0:47:12.600 --> 0:47:16.160
<v Speaker 2>big jump it's not like everybody's cashing a ton of money.

0:47:16.160 --> 0:47:18.880
<v Speaker 2>You should make the gaps worthwhile. I mean, not like

0:47:18.920 --> 0:47:20.680
<v Speaker 2>these guys need the money anyway, but at least it's

0:47:20.680 --> 0:47:23.080
<v Speaker 2>something they think about in their heads. But I don't

0:47:23.120 --> 0:47:25.560
<v Speaker 2>know that's something I would do that the professional world

0:47:25.640 --> 0:47:27.799
<v Speaker 2>being afraid of match play is something that bothers me

0:47:27.800 --> 0:47:29.960
<v Speaker 2>a little bit because it's something that match play is,

0:47:30.000 --> 0:47:32.200
<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, the best way to golf. And uh

0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:36.399
<v Speaker 2>and we as a people, for whatever reason, have we're

0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:38.120
<v Speaker 2>like afraid of it. You know, it's like we have

0:47:38.239 --> 0:47:40.200
<v Speaker 2>to turn in scores, we have to have a handicap.

0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:47.279
<v Speaker 2>I would I would say golf carts in general, I

0:47:47.280 --> 0:47:51.200
<v Speaker 2>would probably limit. I just think, you know, if you

0:47:51.239 --> 0:47:56.359
<v Speaker 2>want to have golf carts on every course, you you

0:47:56.400 --> 0:47:58.960
<v Speaker 2>probably shouldn't have a golf cart at any historic golf

0:47:58.960 --> 0:48:01.600
<v Speaker 2>course and unless you know, obviously someone needs it for

0:48:01.920 --> 0:48:05.160
<v Speaker 2>health reasons. And and I would just say, you know,

0:48:05.280 --> 0:48:09.160
<v Speaker 2>walking is walking a golf course is a completely different experience,

0:48:09.280 --> 0:48:11.640
<v Speaker 2>and as long as it's not a million degrees, it

0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:16.160
<v Speaker 2>makes the game and sport more enjoyable. I really believe.

0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:19.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to think of what else I would let

0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:21.440
<v Speaker 2>the PJ Tour players wear shorts too. I don't understand

0:48:21.440 --> 0:48:22.239
<v Speaker 2>why they have to wear pants.

0:48:23.239 --> 0:48:25.560
<v Speaker 1>You might get a personal call from Jeff Shackelford.

0:48:27.600 --> 0:48:29.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that was that was one of my favorite

0:48:29.440 --> 0:48:33.320
<v Speaker 2>things I said something about. I joked on that tweet

0:48:33.360 --> 0:48:37.720
<v Speaker 2>about how the NBA players wear shorts in the finals

0:48:37.719 --> 0:48:40.359
<v Speaker 2>and how that's disgraceful obviously, just kind of poking fun

0:48:40.400 --> 0:48:42.680
<v Speaker 2>of Jeff, who I like a lot. And I had

0:48:42.719 --> 0:48:45.200
<v Speaker 2>four or five responses to people that were like, that's

0:48:45.239 --> 0:48:47.839
<v Speaker 2>not the same, and I was like, yeah, you didn't

0:48:47.840 --> 0:48:50.719
<v Speaker 2>get my joke. It's funny how Twitter sometimes you can't

0:48:50.760 --> 0:48:53.360
<v Speaker 2>you can't totally pick up on it. I'm trying to

0:48:53.360 --> 0:48:56.560
<v Speaker 2>think of some other stuff that I would do. I

0:48:56.760 --> 0:49:00.400
<v Speaker 2>just I'm just in this camp. The golf's fine, you know,

0:49:00.520 --> 0:49:03.600
<v Speaker 2>like like I think people that love golf love golf,

0:49:03.760 --> 0:49:05.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, and people are eventually going to get to it.

0:49:06.000 --> 0:49:08.560
<v Speaker 2>I've said this a lot, but we spent like the

0:49:08.560 --> 0:49:10.720
<v Speaker 2>better part of the two thousands trying to get people

0:49:10.719 --> 0:49:13.799
<v Speaker 2>that were like sixteen years old interested in golf, and

0:49:13.840 --> 0:49:16.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, they're going to eventually be thirty and they'll

0:49:16.360 --> 0:49:17.480
<v Speaker 2>be looking for something to do.

0:49:17.480 --> 0:49:20.120
<v Speaker 1>That's all my friends and now are played golf all

0:49:20.160 --> 0:49:22.239
<v Speaker 1>the time on weekends and they always want I'm like,

0:49:22.320 --> 0:49:26.280
<v Speaker 1>I can't play, but like they all like love golf.

0:49:26.600 --> 0:49:30.000
<v Speaker 1>In college, they all made fun of me for playing golf.

0:49:30.120 --> 0:49:32.440
<v Speaker 2>Right, I just say, wait, I mean, if we just

0:49:32.520 --> 0:49:35.680
<v Speaker 2>wait a little bit, people eventually come to the sport.

0:49:36.000 --> 0:49:41.440
<v Speaker 2>It's funny that, you know, we sold this bill of

0:49:41.480 --> 0:49:44.880
<v Speaker 2>goods like golf in Trouble, and it's like, well, we

0:49:44.920 --> 0:49:46.520
<v Speaker 2>build a whole bunch of golf courses and a lot

0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:49.080
<v Speaker 2>of them aren't very good, and they're expensive and it

0:49:49.120 --> 0:49:51.640
<v Speaker 2>takes forever to play. Those are the things that to me.

0:49:51.760 --> 0:49:54.440
<v Speaker 2>It's like, you know, you and I were having drinks

0:49:54.440 --> 0:49:56.840
<v Speaker 2>and we were talking about winter Park in when we

0:49:56.840 --> 0:49:59.840
<v Speaker 2>were in Chicago, and it's like, winter Park's successful because

0:49:59.840 --> 0:50:02.839
<v Speaker 2>of the business model. It's not because of anything other

0:50:02.920 --> 0:50:04.600
<v Speaker 2>than the fact that it allows people to come out

0:50:04.600 --> 0:50:08.280
<v Speaker 2>there any way they want for a relatively solid amount

0:50:08.320 --> 0:50:11.520
<v Speaker 2>of money and enjoy themselves in their capacity. And it's

0:50:11.520 --> 0:50:14.640
<v Speaker 2>not like get here and it's three hundred dollars and

0:50:14.680 --> 0:50:16.839
<v Speaker 2>you're on the tea now and you've got to play

0:50:16.880 --> 0:50:18.880
<v Speaker 2>it this fast and you've got to get done, and

0:50:18.880 --> 0:50:21.360
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna yell at you and then leave the property

0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:23.160
<v Speaker 2>because that's the end of your day. You know. It's

0:50:23.200 --> 0:50:25.279
<v Speaker 2>just to me, it's the business approach to it. And

0:50:25.280 --> 0:50:27.080
<v Speaker 2>if you approach it with a little bit more of

0:50:27.080 --> 0:50:30.839
<v Speaker 2>a relaxed kind of ideal, then I think it would work.

0:50:31.040 --> 0:50:32.960
<v Speaker 2>I just I mean, if you want me to be bizarre,

0:50:33.040 --> 0:50:35.760
<v Speaker 2>I'd say, build fifty winter parks in every state.

0:50:35.880 --> 0:50:36.080
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:50:36.160 --> 0:50:39.240
<v Speaker 2>It's like, allow people that opportunity to take in golf.

0:50:39.480 --> 0:50:43.719
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's just different experience. I think just in general, Yeah, I.

0:50:43.680 --> 0:50:46.440
<v Speaker 1>Think golf, like golf needs to just appeal to like

0:50:46.480 --> 0:50:50.040
<v Speaker 1>the die hard golfer, because like, the more somebody's friend

0:50:50.160 --> 0:50:53.040
<v Speaker 1>loves golf, the more likely they're going to make their

0:50:53.080 --> 0:50:56.040
<v Speaker 1>friends come golf with them. You know, they're going to

0:50:56.160 --> 0:50:58.440
<v Speaker 1>keep talking about it until they try it, you.

0:50:58.400 --> 0:51:02.319
<v Speaker 2>Know, and they're gonna want to check courses off their

0:51:02.360 --> 0:51:05.640
<v Speaker 2>list and destinations and places to go and see this

0:51:06.040 --> 0:51:09.560
<v Speaker 2>and experience that. And you know that's what that's what

0:51:09.600 --> 0:51:13.120
<v Speaker 2>my friends, my friends love of the game is not

0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:16.480
<v Speaker 2>watching Jordan Speed, no offense to Jordan Speed, and it's

0:51:16.520 --> 0:51:19.200
<v Speaker 2>not watching Phil Mickelson, and it's not watching Dustin Johnson.

0:51:19.239 --> 0:51:22.759
<v Speaker 2>You know, my friends love my friends who are my

0:51:22.880 --> 0:51:26.920
<v Speaker 2>best friends. Their love of golf is you know, I

0:51:26.960 --> 0:51:29.360
<v Speaker 2>sent an email yesterday about our golf trip to Tubac,

0:51:29.400 --> 0:51:33.040
<v Speaker 2>Arizona in early January. You know, that's why they love golf,

0:51:33.120 --> 0:51:34.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, for the for the three days they get

0:51:34.680 --> 0:51:37.200
<v Speaker 2>to spend at a twenty seven hole facility that most

0:51:37.200 --> 0:51:40.239
<v Speaker 2>people don't know much about, just enjoying golf and the

0:51:40.239 --> 0:51:41.839
<v Speaker 2>people around it. That's kind of what I talk about

0:51:41.840 --> 0:51:43.799
<v Speaker 2>with the courses. You know, it's the experience of it

0:51:44.200 --> 0:51:46.879
<v Speaker 2>as much as anything. And if you're having a fun

0:51:46.960 --> 0:51:51.279
<v Speaker 2>experience and golf is involved, it's going to leave you

0:51:51.360 --> 0:51:52.800
<v Speaker 2>with a good taste in your mouth, you know. And

0:51:53.040 --> 0:51:57.040
<v Speaker 2>and it's that's that's a pretty simple, you know, simple philosophy.

0:51:57.080 --> 0:51:59.120
<v Speaker 2>I think that's why Bannon has always been so popular.

0:51:59.160 --> 0:52:01.960
<v Speaker 2>You know. I think Bannon so popular because, yeah, it's

0:52:01.960 --> 0:52:04.719
<v Speaker 2>a name, and it's a resort name that people know

0:52:04.760 --> 0:52:06.520
<v Speaker 2>when they could buy a shirt from and wear a logo.

0:52:06.640 --> 0:52:09.400
<v Speaker 2>But I think the fact that when you're there, you

0:52:09.520 --> 0:52:14.319
<v Speaker 2>a don't feel like you're intruding, and b you have

0:52:14.480 --> 0:52:17.520
<v Speaker 2>plenty of places to just enjoy yourself. If it's not

0:52:18.480 --> 0:52:22.080
<v Speaker 2>the Preserve, its shorties or the driving range or the

0:52:22.160 --> 0:52:24.600
<v Speaker 2>nineteenth Hole, or the kind of the different layouts of

0:52:24.600 --> 0:52:26.960
<v Speaker 2>the pubs, or it's going back to the cottage and

0:52:27.040 --> 0:52:29.800
<v Speaker 2>just sitting down in a fairly relaxing chair that doesn't

0:52:29.800 --> 0:52:32.560
<v Speaker 2>seem like it cost a billion dollars and you just

0:52:32.640 --> 0:52:35.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of take in the weather and you know that

0:52:35.880 --> 0:52:38.400
<v Speaker 2>that is to me, it's it's a it's a simple approach, sure,

0:52:38.520 --> 0:52:41.960
<v Speaker 2>but you know, you leave that place feeling good, even

0:52:41.960 --> 0:52:44.080
<v Speaker 2>if you played bad, you leave the place feeling good.

0:52:44.680 --> 0:52:48.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's uh, and it's it's just it's uh catered

0:52:48.440 --> 0:52:53.000
<v Speaker 3>towards the the masses as opposed to you know, the

0:52:53.000 --> 0:52:56.080
<v Speaker 3>the one percent professional like the you know, I'm not

0:52:56.120 --> 0:52:58.840
<v Speaker 3>going to beg too much on TPC network, but you know,

0:52:58.920 --> 0:53:01.080
<v Speaker 3>the idea of playing a off course and it's built

0:53:01.120 --> 0:53:04.160
<v Speaker 3>for pros, like as a fifteen handicap is like, that's

0:53:04.239 --> 0:53:06.600
<v Speaker 3>just a preposterously dumb idea.

0:53:07.000 --> 0:53:09.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, just go get your teeth kicked in for

0:53:09.480 --> 0:53:11.720
<v Speaker 1>two hours or four hours, five hours.

0:53:11.760 --> 0:53:14.359
<v Speaker 2>It's so funny you and I talked about it a lot.

0:53:14.400 --> 0:53:18.880
<v Speaker 2>It's so funny that, like I mean, for decades, Andy,

0:53:19.200 --> 0:53:22.480
<v Speaker 2>for decades, the only places you really went with these

0:53:22.520 --> 0:53:25.880
<v Speaker 2>places that would beat the shit out of you. You're like, hey,

0:53:25.960 --> 0:53:28.480
<v Speaker 2>let's go on this golf trip to X place, and

0:53:28.560 --> 0:53:31.960
<v Speaker 2>you go when it's seventy four hundred and it's impossible

0:53:32.080 --> 0:53:34.799
<v Speaker 2>and two yards off the fairway is is you lose

0:53:34.840 --> 0:53:37.520
<v Speaker 2>your ball? And you're like, I spent a lot of

0:53:37.560 --> 0:53:38.840
<v Speaker 2>money on this trip.

0:53:39.400 --> 0:53:42.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's just like the first reaction is hard,

0:53:42.880 --> 0:53:46.399
<v Speaker 1>Like I can't stand that. It's it's the worst thing

0:53:46.440 --> 0:53:51.160
<v Speaker 1>in the world. But uh, speaking of match play, Ryder

0:53:51.200 --> 0:53:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Cup coming up, who's winning? If you gounder your head today?

0:53:56.880 --> 0:54:00.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, I mean, I guess I'll go us. I

0:54:00.640 --> 0:54:02.920
<v Speaker 2>know it's been a long time. I think it's going

0:54:03.000 --> 0:54:06.120
<v Speaker 2>to be more competitive than maybe some of my fellow

0:54:06.160 --> 0:54:08.560
<v Speaker 2>golf journalism people believe it will be. I know there's

0:54:08.560 --> 0:54:09.960
<v Speaker 2>been some people that are saying it's going to be

0:54:09.960 --> 0:54:12.080
<v Speaker 2>an American route. I don't think it's ever going to

0:54:12.080 --> 0:54:14.680
<v Speaker 2>be an American route when it's on international soil. But

0:54:16.040 --> 0:54:22.319
<v Speaker 2>the American team is from one through twelve is silly good?

0:54:22.719 --> 0:54:25.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, And that is what you always see when

0:54:25.640 --> 0:54:29.360
<v Speaker 2>it's competitive, is who wins those matches or the guys

0:54:29.360 --> 0:54:31.680
<v Speaker 2>that play, you know, one team match and play singles

0:54:32.239 --> 0:54:34.600
<v Speaker 2>and when it comes down to that. On Sunday and singles,

0:54:34.600 --> 0:54:37.440
<v Speaker 2>when everybody's out on the golf course, I almost feel

0:54:37.480 --> 0:54:41.360
<v Speaker 2>like there'll be four fairly assured points from the guys

0:54:41.360 --> 0:54:43.040
<v Speaker 2>that are on the bottom part of the roster. Now,

0:54:43.080 --> 0:54:45.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean, of course they could lose the match, anybody could,

0:54:45.160 --> 0:54:46.920
<v Speaker 2>but I feel like if you were going to look

0:54:46.920 --> 0:54:49.000
<v Speaker 2>at that, that's where the handicap is on. A very

0:54:49.120 --> 0:54:52.040
<v Speaker 2>very advantageous side for the Americans is the guys that

0:54:52.719 --> 0:54:54.680
<v Speaker 2>are just going to make the team, the guys that

0:54:54.760 --> 0:54:57.000
<v Speaker 2>just qualified in, or the guys that have to be

0:54:57.040 --> 0:55:03.280
<v Speaker 2>asked to play. And you know, it's the thing the Internet,

0:55:03.400 --> 0:55:06.920
<v Speaker 2>the thing that Europe has that they can play the

0:55:07.000 --> 0:55:09.520
<v Speaker 2>hand of if they do it the right way. Is

0:55:09.560 --> 0:55:12.520
<v Speaker 2>basically just play their four best teams every time. And

0:55:12.560 --> 0:55:15.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean that'll be exhausting, but I think that's probably

0:55:15.600 --> 0:55:18.279
<v Speaker 2>their best play is to play the guys that are

0:55:18.320 --> 0:55:20.600
<v Speaker 2>from the same countries that'll be excited to play together

0:55:21.880 --> 0:55:24.759
<v Speaker 2>and almost almost allow those teams to go out there

0:55:24.840 --> 0:55:27.400
<v Speaker 2>until they lose, you know, and say, Rory, if you

0:55:27.400 --> 0:55:29.640
<v Speaker 2>want to play with Ian Poulter like you did four

0:55:29.719 --> 0:55:33.080
<v Speaker 2>years ago, y'all go play together, and y'all are the

0:55:33.080 --> 0:55:34.960
<v Speaker 2>team that are going to play four matches, and like

0:55:35.000 --> 0:55:37.120
<v Speaker 2>that's how it's going to go down. And the same

0:55:37.160 --> 0:55:40.200
<v Speaker 2>for Stinson and Norin. You know if they if Stinson's

0:55:40.239 --> 0:55:42.439
<v Speaker 2>on the team, it's like, you two guys go play.

0:55:42.520 --> 0:55:44.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you guys want to play together. Y'all play.

0:55:44.760 --> 0:55:46.520
<v Speaker 2>Y'all are going to be our B team.

0:55:46.600 --> 0:55:50.320
<v Speaker 1>And what about Justin Rose and Stinson, the icemann in Ross,

0:55:50.960 --> 0:55:51.920
<v Speaker 1>that's the team?

0:55:52.120 --> 0:55:54.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well that's what I'm saying is like, whatever the

0:55:54.560 --> 0:55:57.440
<v Speaker 2>team is, you go with. Like I think that because

0:55:57.440 --> 0:56:00.720
<v Speaker 2>of this, because the Americans are better him through twelve.

0:56:01.239 --> 0:56:05.560
<v Speaker 2>If I was the Europeans, I would probably just play

0:56:05.719 --> 0:56:09.040
<v Speaker 2>the I would probably just play our four best teams.

0:56:09.480 --> 0:56:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like Molinari's got to play every single.

0:56:12.920 --> 0:56:14.960
<v Speaker 2>Every single match. Yeah, every match he's playing.

0:56:15.080 --> 0:56:16.799
<v Speaker 1>He's like one of the three best players in the

0:56:16.840 --> 0:56:17.560
<v Speaker 1>world right now.

0:56:18.040 --> 0:56:20.640
<v Speaker 2>And like and like you know, I mean like John Rahm,

0:56:20.840 --> 0:56:22.920
<v Speaker 2>who hasn't had as good as year as he's had

0:56:23.040 --> 0:56:25.439
<v Speaker 2>in years past. But you know, Rom's got to find

0:56:25.440 --> 0:56:27.279
<v Speaker 2>somebody he's gonna be excited to play with. And like

0:56:27.520 --> 0:56:29.600
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna have to roll these big name players out

0:56:30.080 --> 0:56:31.839
<v Speaker 2>a lot, and uh.

0:56:32.680 --> 0:56:35.280
<v Speaker 1>Rom should play with Sevy, you know, bring him back

0:56:35.320 --> 0:56:38.640
<v Speaker 1>because he's idolized like any Spanish player.

0:56:38.560 --> 0:56:41.560
<v Speaker 2>Any Spanish player that's ever played. It's uh, you know,

0:56:41.600 --> 0:56:44.040
<v Speaker 2>it's it's one of those things like who is it

0:56:44.120 --> 0:56:48.360
<v Speaker 2>gonna be? Rom and Sergio? I mean, I guess I.

0:56:48.360 --> 0:56:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Don't know if Sergio is even making a team.

0:56:50.920 --> 0:56:52.120
<v Speaker 2>They'll probably get him on.

0:56:52.280 --> 0:56:55.080
<v Speaker 1>They have to put him on, right yeah, I think so,

0:56:55.520 --> 0:56:59.719
<v Speaker 1>Like that's the thing is like Stenson Sergio Poulter is

0:56:59.719 --> 0:57:02.200
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to be a pick now. Polter is like

0:57:02.239 --> 0:57:05.800
<v Speaker 1>a lock right for sure. And then you know Sergio

0:57:05.920 --> 0:57:11.680
<v Speaker 1>and Stenson are outside, you know, Cabrera bao Okay.

0:57:11.480 --> 0:57:16.000
<v Speaker 2>Shane Ryan, I think Shane Ryan wrote this, But like,

0:57:16.800 --> 0:57:19.400
<v Speaker 2>what's wrong with me wanting to root for the Europeans

0:57:19.520 --> 0:57:22.360
<v Speaker 2>because I kind of do want to root for the Europeans.

0:57:22.560 --> 0:57:25.360
<v Speaker 1>I kind of am rooting for the Europeans.

0:57:24.840 --> 0:57:26.280
<v Speaker 5>Also, I kind of.

0:57:26.520 --> 0:57:28.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like I feel like it's become such a

0:57:28.840 --> 0:57:32.160
<v Speaker 2>popular opinion, like the America team's gonna roll, and it's

0:57:32.200 --> 0:57:36.160
<v Speaker 2>like all like the perfectly cookie cutter players that are

0:57:36.200 --> 0:57:40.040
<v Speaker 2>like massively successful, like Jordan and Justin and Brooks and

0:57:40.080 --> 0:57:43.360
<v Speaker 2>all these guys that are like they're like perfect in golf,

0:57:43.760 --> 0:57:45.600
<v Speaker 2>and I feel like it's almost flipped where it was

0:57:45.640 --> 0:57:49.000
<v Speaker 2>like that was the team for the Europeans for so long,

0:57:49.040 --> 0:57:50.920
<v Speaker 2>and we'd roll out these guys and you'd be like,

0:57:51.400 --> 0:57:53.400
<v Speaker 2>maybe they have a chance, even though you knew they

0:57:53.400 --> 0:57:56.760
<v Speaker 2>probably didn't really have a chance. And I'll say, you know,

0:57:56.840 --> 0:58:00.160
<v Speaker 2>with us covering these team events, I think that the

0:58:00.240 --> 0:58:07.600
<v Speaker 2>team events are the easiest events to predict by looking

0:58:07.640 --> 0:58:09.960
<v Speaker 2>at the teams on looking at the players on paper.

0:58:10.440 --> 0:58:12.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, like we had the Walker Cup last year

0:58:12.920 --> 0:58:14.640
<v Speaker 2>and there was no doubt in my mind the Americans

0:58:14.680 --> 0:58:18.360
<v Speaker 2>were going to kill him and they did, and there

0:58:18.440 --> 0:58:20.360
<v Speaker 2>was no doubt in my mind the Americans are gonna

0:58:20.360 --> 0:58:21.200
<v Speaker 2>win when you just look.

0:58:21.040 --> 0:58:25.160
<v Speaker 1>At the players, you know, I think the European team

0:58:25.280 --> 0:58:30.760
<v Speaker 1>has better personalities, agreed, you know they have they have Poulter,

0:58:31.880 --> 0:58:35.720
<v Speaker 1>they have McElroy, They've got you know, like Fleetwood is

0:58:35.760 --> 0:58:39.919
<v Speaker 1>like I think, impossible to route against. He's like him, Yeah,

0:58:39.960 --> 0:58:42.680
<v Speaker 1>he's going to be a superstar. I think Noran's a

0:58:42.720 --> 0:58:46.200
<v Speaker 1>good dude, you know, like to root for. I don't know,

0:58:46.320 --> 0:58:49.160
<v Speaker 1>I just think they have like a more like you know,

0:58:49.280 --> 0:58:53.640
<v Speaker 1>Web and Bubba don't really do it for me, you know,

0:58:53.720 --> 0:58:56.720
<v Speaker 1>like I don't have an I don't have an opinion really,

0:58:56.880 --> 0:58:58.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, right.

0:58:58.120 --> 0:59:01.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like I love watching Ricky Fowler play golf.

0:59:01.920 --> 0:59:04.480
<v Speaker 2>I do. I really enjoy watching Ricky play golf. But

0:59:04.520 --> 0:59:07.840
<v Speaker 2>it's not like, you know, like he's not gonna be

0:59:07.880 --> 0:59:11.160
<v Speaker 2>out on the course during the Ryder Cup like running

0:59:11.200 --> 0:59:13.800
<v Speaker 2>around high fiving like Sergio in ninety nine. You know,

0:59:13.920 --> 0:59:16.120
<v Speaker 2>like it's like I know what I'm getting with most

0:59:16.120 --> 0:59:17.720
<v Speaker 2>of the guys on the American side.

0:59:17.880 --> 0:59:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the thing, is like there's more personality on

0:59:20.840 --> 0:59:23.760
<v Speaker 1>the on the European team. That's why they're more Why

0:59:23.880 --> 0:59:25.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I want to root for him more.

0:59:26.920 --> 0:59:33.640
<v Speaker 2>I just like I guess, like my American allegiance, like

0:59:33.720 --> 0:59:36.760
<v Speaker 2>I if there's if there's a thing, it's like I

0:59:36.840 --> 0:59:38.560
<v Speaker 2>kind of think about it in the Olympics a lot.

0:59:38.720 --> 0:59:41.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm always like I'm rooting for this American speed stater

0:59:42.280 --> 0:59:46.000
<v Speaker 2>and there's this guy from Belgium that's gonna win like

0:59:46.200 --> 0:59:49.800
<v Speaker 2>one of three Winter Olympic medals for his entire country,

0:59:49.880 --> 0:59:52.880
<v Speaker 2>Like why I don't want that? Gotta win, that's this

0:59:52.960 --> 0:59:55.480
<v Speaker 2>guy's gonna like change his entire life for the rest

0:59:55.520 --> 0:59:58.240
<v Speaker 2>of his life. He wins and like the American person

0:59:58.320 --> 1:00:01.680
<v Speaker 2>with no personality wins. You're like, sweet, you know you're

1:00:02.400 --> 1:00:05.200
<v Speaker 2>another American that was successful. I don't know. There's times

1:00:05.240 --> 1:00:07.160
<v Speaker 2>where I sometimes I'm like, I'm rooting for the other dog.

1:00:07.200 --> 1:00:08.240
<v Speaker 2>I really like the underdog.

1:00:08.400 --> 1:00:11.000
<v Speaker 1>That's a good point, because like a gold medal at

1:00:11.000 --> 1:00:13.959
<v Speaker 1>a small in a small country is so much more

1:00:13.960 --> 1:00:16.520
<v Speaker 1>significant than a gold medal in the US, because we

1:00:17.000 --> 1:00:21.400
<v Speaker 1>get like one hundred gold medalists per Olympics every Olympics.

1:00:21.600 --> 1:00:26.080
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and there's three that. There's three Olympians every time

1:00:26.560 --> 1:00:29.560
<v Speaker 2>that are like the ones that make the wheaties box.

1:00:29.680 --> 1:00:32.520
<v Speaker 2>And then other than that, you're like, oh, that American

1:00:32.560 --> 1:00:35.040
<v Speaker 2>team won the losee awesome. Sweet, And then you change

1:00:35.080 --> 1:00:36.800
<v Speaker 2>the channel and you have no idea who the names were,

1:00:36.840 --> 1:00:39.680
<v Speaker 2>you know. For the most part, that's kind of my

1:00:39.760 --> 1:00:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Molinari thing when so many people were bummed out on

1:00:42.960 --> 1:00:45.360
<v Speaker 2>social media because Tiger didn't win the British and I

1:00:45.400 --> 1:00:49.360
<v Speaker 2>was like, yo, this guy is the first player from

1:00:49.440 --> 1:00:53.200
<v Speaker 2>Italy ever to win a major like this is unbelievable

1:00:53.200 --> 1:00:55.360
<v Speaker 2>for their country and for golf there for the next

1:00:55.600 --> 1:00:58.200
<v Speaker 2>two hundred years. And we're like, well, a tired didn't

1:00:58.200 --> 1:01:00.280
<v Speaker 2>get fifteen, not.

1:01:00.280 --> 1:01:03.240
<v Speaker 1>To mention the manner he did it in, like Tiger

1:01:03.320 --> 1:01:07.040
<v Speaker 1>made the charge. Like I remember I tweeted something and

1:01:07.080 --> 1:01:09.360
<v Speaker 1>like it was like on whole seven. I was like,

1:01:09.400 --> 1:01:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I think Molinari is the only guy that can ruin

1:01:11.640 --> 1:01:14.720
<v Speaker 1>this for us, you know, and like so many people.

1:01:14.440 --> 1:01:16.520
<v Speaker 5>Were like, oh what about Rory?

1:01:16.560 --> 1:01:18.920
<v Speaker 1>What about Like you could just see Molinari just was

1:01:18.960 --> 1:01:22.080
<v Speaker 1>playing perfect golf, you know, like he he won because

1:01:22.120 --> 1:01:23.760
<v Speaker 1>he just outplayed everybody else.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's it's silly. But no, I I I'm really

1:01:29.480 --> 1:01:32.840
<v Speaker 2>excited about the Ryder Cup. I'm really excited to see

1:01:33.840 --> 1:01:37.480
<v Speaker 2>what transpires. And my hope to all hopes is that

1:01:37.520 --> 1:01:41.040
<v Speaker 2>it's not a complete blowout because we don't get these

1:01:41.080 --> 1:01:44.120
<v Speaker 2>things much. We don't get these things a professional golf

1:01:44.360 --> 1:01:46.760
<v Speaker 2>that like peak everybody's interests much.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, mm hmm yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the other thing, I'm excited to see French

1:01:52.280 --> 1:01:55.520
<v Speaker 1>fans like what, what's the French golf turnout gonna be?

1:01:55.640 --> 1:01:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Like what are are they gonna be polite? Are they

1:01:57.680 --> 1:02:00.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna be really rude? Like are we gonna get like

1:02:00.680 --> 1:02:02.280
<v Speaker 1>Baye by Bui and French?

1:02:03.120 --> 1:02:05.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh? I wonder what it is have you Google translated?

1:02:05.600 --> 1:02:08.000
<v Speaker 5>No, no, I just thought of this.

1:02:08.400 --> 1:02:10.080
<v Speaker 2>We should figure we should figure this out.

1:02:10.280 --> 1:02:13.920
<v Speaker 1>We should actually is Victor Duboissan gonna just run out

1:02:13.960 --> 1:02:14.720
<v Speaker 1>onto the course?

1:02:16.000 --> 1:02:20.280
<v Speaker 2>I should have made it is there's gotta be a

1:02:20.320 --> 1:02:23.800
<v Speaker 2>phrase that French golfers yell, and we should figure out

1:02:23.840 --> 1:02:24.240
<v Speaker 2>what that is.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I get some T shirts. You know.

1:02:26.440 --> 1:02:29.560
<v Speaker 1>That's we were walking around with it all in Chicago

1:02:29.600 --> 1:02:31.280
<v Speaker 1>and end of September.

1:02:31.760 --> 1:02:34.200
<v Speaker 2>I love it. He's a great business idea.

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<v Speaker 1>So hey, uh, the two are we we're talking about

1:02:37.360 --> 1:02:42.280
<v Speaker 1>all these young guys earlier? What's going to happen as

1:02:42.360 --> 1:02:45.240
<v Speaker 1>this trend. I don't think it's slowing down. I think

1:02:45.320 --> 1:02:47.520
<v Speaker 1>you agree it's not. So it's just going to get younger,

1:02:47.600 --> 1:02:51.120
<v Speaker 1>right right? What happens to all the forty year olds?

1:02:53.120 --> 1:02:55.880
<v Speaker 2>I think the Champions Tour my move to forty five.

1:02:56.440 --> 1:02:59.000
<v Speaker 2>And this is without any inside information, I could see

1:02:59.000 --> 1:03:00.320
<v Speaker 2>it going to forty five.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

1:03:01.960 --> 1:03:04.920
<v Speaker 1>One of my contributors wrote this article that I'm in

1:03:05.080 --> 1:03:08.280
<v Speaker 1>post soon and it's like the median age has dropped

1:03:08.320 --> 1:03:11.280
<v Speaker 1>four years in the last you know, twenty years of

1:03:11.840 --> 1:03:12.840
<v Speaker 1>pro golfers.

1:03:13.120 --> 1:03:16.240
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I wrote and this was this was

1:03:16.240 --> 1:03:18.439
<v Speaker 2>when I wrote This was probably three or four years ago,

1:03:18.480 --> 1:03:20.840
<v Speaker 2>four or five years ago, and I wrote, I did

1:03:20.880 --> 1:03:24.120
<v Speaker 2>the math for like the last ten Majors, and the

1:03:24.160 --> 1:03:26.800
<v Speaker 2>average age of major win it was thirty three. And

1:03:26.840 --> 1:03:29.040
<v Speaker 2>that's obviously not the case now, you know, I mean

1:03:29.360 --> 1:03:33.160
<v Speaker 2>Koepka and Speed and JT and these guys, like you're

1:03:33.160 --> 1:03:36.880
<v Speaker 2>going to see a teenager win a major soon, You're

1:03:36.920 --> 1:03:39.680
<v Speaker 2>gonna see I mean, like an eighteen year old. I mean,

1:03:39.760 --> 1:03:42.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, we talked about Niemen. I mean, he could

1:03:42.040 --> 1:03:43.840
<v Speaker 2>win a major and nobody would bad an eye at all.

1:03:44.360 --> 1:03:47.320
<v Speaker 2>But I don't know. I mean, I it's you know,

1:03:47.360 --> 1:03:50.000
<v Speaker 2>what's funny is funny you asked this question. I was

1:03:50.080 --> 1:03:53.200
<v Speaker 2>the US Amateur and then I'm reading the match and

1:03:53.240 --> 1:03:56.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm got this. I'm like super in on amateur

1:03:56.160 --> 1:03:58.640
<v Speaker 2>golf right now. Like I'm like, I'm like, it's high

1:03:58.720 --> 1:04:00.640
<v Speaker 2>on the cloud of amber golf I've ever been in

1:04:00.680 --> 1:04:02.720
<v Speaker 2>my life. And I was thinking about it. I was like,

1:04:02.800 --> 1:04:04.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to really start to try to work on

1:04:04.360 --> 1:04:06.760
<v Speaker 2>my game, and I want to like start playing in

1:04:06.760 --> 1:04:08.600
<v Speaker 2>these amateur events, like I want to play, but not

1:04:08.680 --> 1:04:10.280
<v Speaker 2>just the USA Amateur and the mid am I want

1:04:10.320 --> 1:04:12.600
<v Speaker 2>to play in these other amateur events too, And then

1:04:12.640 --> 1:04:15.560
<v Speaker 2>I was like thoughts to at I'm like, I'm thirty four,

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<v Speaker 2>Like these guys are like seventeen. Like I can't play

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<v Speaker 2>against these guys.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta get on the cocktail circuit, man, you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>get in the mid am circuit.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I know, but I was thinking to myself, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, this is this is an unrealistic thing for

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<v Speaker 2>me to think about, you know, like we never at

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<v Speaker 2>the US Amateur ever ever see somebody thirty four in

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<v Speaker 2>the in the quarterfinals.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's the shame is there used to be like

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<v Speaker 1>Nathan Smith and Mike McCoy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean Buddy Marucci played Tiger in nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 2>five and.

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<v Speaker 1>The finals and then he made it the semi finals

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<v Speaker 1>the next year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, that's unbelievable. These these like lifelong amateur

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<v Speaker 2>Stuart Hagistead makes it to around the thirty two and

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<v Speaker 2>it's like this story.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and he's twenty eight, you know, yeah, like twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a miracle.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't even think he's twenty. I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty seven, twenty Yeah, he probably is twenty eight.

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<v Speaker 2>You're probably right, I think I remember it from our

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<v Speaker 2>bio sheets. I'm sure he'll text me if I'm wrong

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<v Speaker 2>on this.

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<v Speaker 1>I know he will touch both of us.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, it's it's just yeah, I mean, it's it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>So I have a question, and this is the one

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<v Speaker 2>thing I don't really get. Why are they so much better?

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<v Speaker 2>Why are these young kids so much better at golf?

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<v Speaker 1>I have this theory like me and you we grew

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<v Speaker 1>up with. I mean, what was your first set of clubs,

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<v Speaker 1>Like mine was like Tommy Armor eight forty fives and

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<v Speaker 1>I remember playing like Slavesinger Golf Boss.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was my first full set of adult clubs

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<v Speaker 2>were top flight magnas.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember the Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The globe in the middle of the ball that would

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<v Speaker 2>actually imprint on a belt if you hit it solidly.

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<v Speaker 2>And so there was a globe in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>the ball where your group were supposed to be. This

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<v Speaker 2>is just approach to interesting approach to the sweet spot

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<v Speaker 2>there top light and.

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<v Speaker 1>How far did you hit it when you were like fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>when you got into high school. Nowhere, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>different like we did nowhere.

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<v Speaker 5>We had these.

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<v Speaker 1>Balls that didn't go anywhere, they went like they sliced

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<v Speaker 1>like crap, like you know, you could hit a big slice,

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<v Speaker 1>seventy yard slice and they went nowhere and it was

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<v Speaker 1>like it was like you know pro. The other thing

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<v Speaker 1>was like instructors would just guess, you know you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>love these, yeah, and they'd be like, oh, like you

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<v Speaker 1>know you need to do this with your swing, like

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<v Speaker 1>there was no numbers behind. Like I just think that

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<v Speaker 1>we live in this era where like you literally can't

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<v Speaker 1>miss right, Like I swing so hard at the ball

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<v Speaker 1>now compared to the way I used to swing right, like.

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<v Speaker 2>You had to manufacture golf shots. And you know what's

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<v Speaker 2>funny is, dude, like I was watching the ninety nine

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<v Speaker 2>Ryder Cup the other day and Miguel Jmenez hits this

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<v Speaker 2>foul ball during play that's fifty yards left of everything

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<v Speaker 2>and it went about knee high. And then I always

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<v Speaker 2>think about stuff like Palmer and Norman on eighteen at

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<v Speaker 2>the Masters hitting these shots thirty yards right of the green.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like nobody does that. Like Jordan Speed hit that

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<v Speaker 2>shot when he won the Masters on eighteen on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was like fifteen yards over the green and

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<v Speaker 2>that was like the worst shot he hit all week.

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<v Speaker 5>It's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the foul balls don't exist anymore as much, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like you can neck the crap out of

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<v Speaker 1>a driver today and it just like goes straight and

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<v Speaker 1>if it's firm and fast, it'll roll like forever.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Rory won the PGA doing that with his

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<v Speaker 2>three wood. Yeah, he necked that shot on ten and

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<v Speaker 2>it rolled up there like twelve feet for eagle. I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, that wasn't a good golf shot, but it

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<v Speaker 2>turned out okay.

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<v Speaker 5>So he is is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I like, I grew up with this, Like DJ's

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<v Speaker 1>the only good golfer in our age bracket, like great golfer,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's the only one. Everyone else is younger or older,

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<v Speaker 1>like justin rose age, which is like thirty eight thirty nine.

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<v Speaker 5>Like there's this gap of people that we.

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<v Speaker 1>Like when we were in college and the pro V

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<v Speaker 1>one like was really hitting the prime and technology was developing,

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<v Speaker 1>the high school kids were better than us.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, so you're saying that we had to live

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<v Speaker 2>through the transition time between yeah, like the wound and

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<v Speaker 2>the new age ball, and because of that, we lost

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<v Speaker 2>like two years of knowing how to play, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>We essentially just were worse because we had to, like

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<v Speaker 1>we had to like learn a new golf swing. Like

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<v Speaker 1>my golf swing today is so much different. Like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like all you do is hit up on the ball

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<v Speaker 1>with a driver, try to. I just try to and

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<v Speaker 1>it goes you know, take saw the spinoff and the

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<v Speaker 1>ball goes really far and straight, and it's like the

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<v Speaker 1>golf swing. These kids just learned, like they know they

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what a miss is.

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<v Speaker 2>That it's never missed the ball, and they know exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what everything goes. I mean again, like this is kids

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<v Speaker 2>of privilege. Like if you're a kid that like can

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<v Speaker 2>go to these instructors and go to these places where

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<v Speaker 2>they'll show you this stuff. Like you know, like I

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<v Speaker 2>still don't know how far I hit an eight iron, no, like,

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<v Speaker 2>but these kids know exactly how far they hit an

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<v Speaker 2>eight iron.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing is when we were in high school,

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<v Speaker 1>we played all these different sports, Like these kids play

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<v Speaker 1>one sport now, right, it's all specialized.

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<v Speaker 2>It's yeah, I mean, it's it. I just I find it.

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<v Speaker 2>I find it massively fascinating to me that I understand

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<v Speaker 2>that golf is younger. I have a hard time understanding

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<v Speaker 2>why they're so much better. And this is this is

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<v Speaker 2>this is some good points because I think about that

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, like like why were these other people able

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<v Speaker 2>to compete? And why can't there be a third five

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<v Speaker 2>year old that competes at the US Amber? And I

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<v Speaker 2>always want every single year I have this hope. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>this year is gonna be the year. You know, this

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<v Speaker 2>year there's gonna be a thirty four year old guy

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<v Speaker 2>that comes out here and play some great golf and

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<v Speaker 2>wins a couple of matches and he's in the semifinals.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're like, here's this thirty five year old that's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that has a he has an accounting gig

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<v Speaker 2>for KPMG, and you know he played golf at Tallahassee

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<v Speaker 2>State and that's never happened.

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<v Speaker 5>See they that's the case.

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<v Speaker 1>They should just you know, give give me an auto

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<v Speaker 1>berth into the sweet sixteenth, you know, just make somebody flourish,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody into the sweet sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>You wouldn't make our TV window if you lose nine

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<v Speaker 2>to eight.

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<v Speaker 6>To know, that's the they figure out early.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, well he didn't make the window.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey maybe it's they don't get it. You don't get

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<v Speaker 1>a warm up, you know, no, no warm up. You

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<v Speaker 1>got to play like a true midam. Put your shoes

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<v Speaker 1>on and go to walk to the first d bruce les.

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<v Speaker 2>No locker. I like this, Actually, I think this is

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<v Speaker 2>what the mid am should do. The midam should approach

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<v Speaker 2>it exactly like we really do play golf, like oh,

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<v Speaker 2>oh you wanna you want to you want to arrange,

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<v Speaker 2>you want a bucket, arrange balls. Here's here's twelve balls

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<v Speaker 2>that have stripes on them and they fly this distance.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's uh, I don't know, it's it's funny. I uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that would be that would work. I

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<v Speaker 1>had like a weird golf thing the other day where

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<v Speaker 1>you had.

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<v Speaker 2>Something weird about golf. I can't believe, No, I bet

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<v Speaker 2>weird theory.

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<v Speaker 1>I had this realization like I've I've played less golf

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<v Speaker 1>this year than any year in my my like last ten.

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<v Speaker 2>Same same personally, same exact thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So like now when I play, I go out and

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<v Speaker 1>I like literally just like play for myself to scrape

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<v Speaker 1>the ball round. So I like just hid into the

1:11:48.960 --> 1:11:54.160
<v Speaker 1>centers of greens right and like I swung really well

1:11:54.160 --> 1:11:57.040
<v Speaker 1>on like the fourth hole, and I realized, like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>I got full control today, I can like really do

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<v Speaker 1>whatever I want like I can hit shots like it's

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<v Speaker 1>like I've you know, it's like the one time of

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<v Speaker 1>year that I'll have this, you know. And then this

1:12:08.200 --> 1:12:11.200
<v Speaker 1>course just ejected me because I was playing aggressive instead

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<v Speaker 1>of just my my straight to the middle.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing better for people like you and I, who again,

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<v Speaker 2>you and I get to play more golf than most people.

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<v Speaker 2>But like a thirty four year old buddy mine, like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's nothing better than when you go out with them

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<v Speaker 2>and they haven't played in two months or three months,

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<v Speaker 2>and you see, like on the seventh green they hit

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<v Speaker 2>a shot and you can almost see in their face

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<v Speaker 2>like they kind of figured it out again, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and then for like three or four holes they hit

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<v Speaker 2>it pretty good, and then of course it goes away.

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<v Speaker 2>But I always love that like moment of realization where

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<v Speaker 2>you're like kind of holding the club and you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I think I got it. I went on

1:12:48.600 --> 1:12:49.880
<v Speaker 2>to Stretch a couple of years ago where I was

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<v Speaker 2>playing some of the best golf of my life, and

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<v Speaker 2>my only swing thought was get it all the way

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<v Speaker 2>to the top for like two months, and I hit

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<v Speaker 2>a great and then of course I stopped thinking like

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<v Speaker 2>that and started hitting like a dog.

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<v Speaker 5>It's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I I sing the song comfortably numb when I before,

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<v Speaker 1>I told me it's it's it's been a it's been

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<v Speaker 1>an unbelievable, like awakening experience. It's it's to actually help

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<v Speaker 1>my golf game quite a bit. But like I'm always

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<v Speaker 1>so relaxed when I.

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<v Speaker 5>Hit the golf ball. It's like this comfort thing. I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Golf is just it's all mental. The less I play,

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<v Speaker 1>the better I get.

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<v Speaker 6>I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm absolutely the same way. If I play minimal

1:13:30.840 --> 1:13:35.400
<v Speaker 2>amounts of golf, I play fifty times better. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of how it is, you know, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>just I don't really know what else, what else to

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<v Speaker 2>say about it. I think that means we're probably pretty psycho.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that means we get in our own way, way, way,

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<v Speaker 1>way too much on the golf course, all right, overrated

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<v Speaker 1>under a you're right, yeah, yeah, let's go desert golf

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<v Speaker 1>is from a bunch of people.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say it's uh. I mean, I living out

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<v Speaker 2>in Arizona, I would say overrated for the golf. It's

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<v Speaker 2>it's underrated for the pictures because it's very beautiful. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't personally love desert golf. I'd rather play any

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<v Speaker 2>other type.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>I've only been to Arizona once.

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<v Speaker 5>I got this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Come out.

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<v Speaker 2>Give you The problem is if you come out, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>play Phoenix Country Club, which is going to be not desert.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll probably play Pinnacle Peak, which will be not desert.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll play like three of these courses and like you

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<v Speaker 2>won't have seen a heel of Monster yet. You'll be like,

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening here before I'll take you to, you know,

1:14:32.360 --> 1:14:37.200
<v Speaker 2>But like, like I go play Weikopas Sworrow and I

1:14:37.240 --> 1:14:39.800
<v Speaker 2>have a great time because it's it's more playable, it's

1:14:39.800 --> 1:14:43.120
<v Speaker 2>a little bit wider. Fair Ways, they cleared three or

1:14:43.120 --> 1:14:46.000
<v Speaker 2>four yards off the rough, excuse me, off the desert.

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<v Speaker 2>When you miss it and you can actually find your ball,

1:14:48.040 --> 1:14:48.920
<v Speaker 2>you might not be able to play it, but at

1:14:49.000 --> 1:14:50.400
<v Speaker 2>least you could find your ball and throw back in

1:14:50.479 --> 1:14:53.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of as a lazy lateral. And and yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a by the way, the golf rules are a thing

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<v Speaker 2>you asked me. One thing I would say is for

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<v Speaker 2>everybody not playing in a tournament there's a lout of bounds,

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<v Speaker 2>just drop it that you can't find your ball to

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<v Speaker 2>drop it.

1:15:03.160 --> 1:15:06.040
<v Speaker 1>The lazy lateral is the best, like full time leaf

1:15:06.120 --> 1:15:07.879
<v Speaker 1>rule if you're not playing in a tournament.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, absolutely so, I said. One time I said something

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<v Speaker 2>on social media a couple like a year or two

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<v Speaker 2>ago about like pick up, you know, drop your ball

1:15:16.479 --> 1:15:18.000
<v Speaker 2>or something. I had a whole bunch of like super

1:15:18.040 --> 1:15:20.120
<v Speaker 2>serious golf people like that's not the rules, and I

1:15:20.160 --> 1:15:21.400
<v Speaker 2>was like, well, then I don't want to play golf

1:15:21.400 --> 1:15:22.640
<v Speaker 2>with you, like I mean, I don't want you to

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<v Speaker 2>be out there grinding your tail off if we've got

1:15:25.080 --> 1:15:27.679
<v Speaker 2>four hours to get around on a Thursday afternoon. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry that that was a tangent.

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<v Speaker 1>We can go, okay, Yeah, the rules are overrated, Yes, exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Alex war eighteen whole USGA qualifiers.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what he asked, eighteen whole USCA.

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<v Speaker 6>Qualifiers overrated, underrated.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, I would say underrated. I think thirty

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<v Speaker 2>six is too much just to eighteen.

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<v Speaker 6>I hate eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>You like thirty six, Well, I just I just think

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<v Speaker 1>that it's all a chance at eighteen, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>here the thing I always I I like that playing.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for me. I want the chance. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to have to go back out in the afternoon if

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<v Speaker 2>I actually play a good round.

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<v Speaker 1>My my favorite turn of the year that I actually

1:16:08.439 --> 1:16:11.559
<v Speaker 1>play in usually is like the state am I haven't

1:16:11.600 --> 1:16:14.080
<v Speaker 1>I didn't play this year because I just don't have

1:16:14.120 --> 1:16:18.080
<v Speaker 1>the time. But is I like it because like the

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like I have to, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like if I make a six, I'm okay, you know,

1:16:23.760 --> 1:16:26.400
<v Speaker 1>I know, yeah, like I got all this time, I

1:16:26.439 --> 1:16:29.760
<v Speaker 1>got time to work it like you're building like a

1:16:29.800 --> 1:16:33.000
<v Speaker 1>foundation of the house instead of like just like it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a sprint, you know.

1:16:36.160 --> 1:16:37.360
<v Speaker 5>But I don't like.

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<v Speaker 2>Golf game, so I prefer anything on the shorter end.

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<v Speaker 5>All right. Next, next one, your hat collection, I would.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, probably overrated. I Uh, I have a I have

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of really good golf hats. I also have

1:16:57.160 --> 1:16:59.880
<v Speaker 2>a lot of really not great golf hats. And I

1:17:00.080 --> 1:17:04.280
<v Speaker 2>also in my collection have an assortment of non golf hats.

1:17:04.680 --> 1:17:11.000
<v Speaker 2>But how do you have I've probably got fifty awesome

1:17:11.040 --> 1:17:11.840
<v Speaker 2>golf hats.

1:17:12.320 --> 1:17:16.800
<v Speaker 1>What's your what's your storage situation. I've got a little

1:17:16.800 --> 1:17:20.080
<v Speaker 1>problem right now. My wife's been on my ass about it.

1:17:20.520 --> 1:17:22.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I have this is kind of funny. I

1:17:22.760 --> 1:17:25.840
<v Speaker 2>have like where I do my podcast from It's a

1:17:26.160 --> 1:17:29.640
<v Speaker 2>room in our house that's my golf room. So this

1:17:29.840 --> 1:17:35.280
<v Speaker 2>is a room of just golf shit, clubs, hats, shoes,

1:17:35.760 --> 1:17:39.080
<v Speaker 2>and then my little podcast studios in there. The closet

1:17:39.160 --> 1:17:42.800
<v Speaker 2>has jackets and golf balls and all that crap. So

1:17:43.080 --> 1:17:44.760
<v Speaker 2>she doesn't go in I mean, my wife doesn't go

1:17:44.800 --> 1:17:47.280
<v Speaker 2>in there. I mean she doesn't open the door. It's

1:17:47.360 --> 1:17:50.040
<v Speaker 2>like that closet and friends that Monica had locked Like,

1:17:50.320 --> 1:17:52.760
<v Speaker 2>she will not go in that room to save a life,

1:17:52.760 --> 1:17:58.360
<v Speaker 2>because she knows that it's just my just over obsessive, stupid,

1:17:58.560 --> 1:18:01.840
<v Speaker 2>overflowed hats, and she prefer not to go in there

1:18:01.840 --> 1:18:04.479
<v Speaker 2>and see it because she's very, very clean and organized.

1:18:04.479 --> 1:18:06.000
<v Speaker 2>So that's the good thing is I can keep it

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<v Speaker 2>kind of off eyes for most people.

1:18:08.760 --> 1:18:11.840
<v Speaker 1>All Right, that's I need to I need a golf room.

1:18:12.200 --> 1:18:15.559
<v Speaker 1>I need to get one more room and or play built.

1:18:15.720 --> 1:18:18.240
<v Speaker 2>You build on a golf room. Your wife's like leaves you.

1:18:18.360 --> 1:18:19.479
<v Speaker 2>She's like, no, we're not doing this.

1:18:19.560 --> 1:18:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't think she would let me do it

1:18:21.439 --> 1:18:23.960
<v Speaker 1>either way. It would still have to be spect out

1:18:23.960 --> 1:18:28.720
<v Speaker 1>to her her aesthetics. All Right, I'm hoping you can

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<v Speaker 1>give me a good answer here it's failed miserably every

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<v Speaker 1>time I ask this any sort of music question, overrated, underrated,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go with Tom Petty.

1:18:41.640 --> 1:18:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, I think I'm gonna go overrated?

1:18:46.200 --> 1:18:46.679
<v Speaker 1>Interesting?

1:18:47.320 --> 1:18:47.960
<v Speaker 2>What would you go?

1:18:48.439 --> 1:18:51.240
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, That's why I asked. I asked the

1:18:51.360 --> 1:18:51.880
<v Speaker 5>question to you.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say that Tom Petty has for the general

1:18:58.320 --> 1:19:02.040
<v Speaker 2>public these songs that people know. Is that would that

1:19:02.120 --> 1:19:02.439
<v Speaker 2>be fair?

1:19:02.600 --> 1:19:06.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah? Like Last Dance? I mean there.

1:19:06.439 --> 1:19:11.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's got probably three Learning to Fly American Girl. Yeah,

1:19:12.160 --> 1:19:13.280
<v Speaker 1>probably three may four.

1:19:13.960 --> 1:19:17.280
<v Speaker 2>Three songs that people know, and then most of his

1:19:17.360 --> 1:19:20.040
<v Speaker 2>good stuff is the things nobody knows. I always kind

1:19:20.080 --> 1:19:22.320
<v Speaker 2>of think about music like this. If I want to

1:19:22.360 --> 1:19:25.240
<v Speaker 2>listen to music by myself, then I can listen to

1:19:25.240 --> 1:19:27.120
<v Speaker 2>whatever I want. But if I'm going to like put

1:19:27.120 --> 1:19:31.400
<v Speaker 2>a record on or something and it's Tom Petty, I'm

1:19:31.400 --> 1:19:35.200
<v Speaker 2>gonna be told to change it. Probably within ten minutes

1:19:35.479 --> 1:19:37.160
<v Speaker 2>of people being like at my house, they'll be like,

1:19:37.160 --> 1:19:40.240
<v Speaker 2>can we put something else on? So sorry, Tom Petty?

1:19:40.640 --> 1:19:43.160
<v Speaker 1>And see I disagree. I think you could listen to Tom

1:19:43.080 --> 1:19:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Petty any kind of mood. You could be hanging out,

1:19:46.640 --> 1:19:47.639
<v Speaker 1>maybe not partying.

1:19:48.360 --> 1:19:48.640
<v Speaker 5>That's it.

1:19:49.040 --> 1:19:52.000
<v Speaker 1>There are certain songs like that that electric feel you

1:19:52.040 --> 1:19:55.040
<v Speaker 1>know that song mg like, like you could listen to

1:19:55.040 --> 1:19:58.639
<v Speaker 1>that song in any setting, Like you know, I could

1:19:58.720 --> 1:20:00.080
<v Speaker 1>start to like he.

1:20:00.200 --> 1:20:04.320
<v Speaker 2>Just compared Tom Petty, what is the MGMT?

1:20:04.840 --> 1:20:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well you could listen like I could replace comfortably

1:20:08.000 --> 1:20:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Numb with that song and I'd be fine. But you

1:20:11.320 --> 1:20:15.040
<v Speaker 1>could be out at like the bar, like partying, and

1:20:15.120 --> 1:20:18.320
<v Speaker 1>that song comes on and you just like everybody starts.

1:20:18.040 --> 1:20:18.960
<v Speaker 5>Beating their head to it.

1:20:20.960 --> 1:20:24.559
<v Speaker 1>You're right, Tom Petty has a lot of versatility, so

1:20:24.600 --> 1:20:27.840
<v Speaker 1>he's underrated, Okay, Like you can't put led to that

1:20:27.920 --> 1:20:32.960
<v Speaker 1>point on No, you know that's like you gotta be

1:20:33.160 --> 1:20:35.160
<v Speaker 1>there's certain bands you gotta be in the right mood.

1:20:35.240 --> 1:20:37.120
<v Speaker 5>And this is so what is your music?

1:20:37.520 --> 1:20:37.600
<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What's your go to music on the golf course?

1:20:41.160 --> 1:20:41.559
<v Speaker 5>Depend?

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<v Speaker 1>It all depends on what my mood's then lately, sometimes

1:20:45.640 --> 1:20:48.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, I can listen to all genres of music.

1:20:48.760 --> 1:20:51.240
<v Speaker 2>I have a rule on music on a golf course.

1:20:52.040 --> 1:20:54.960
<v Speaker 2>I always tell people, like if I'm writing a cart,

1:20:55.479 --> 1:20:58.080
<v Speaker 2>like if I'm playing in something with a cart, I

1:20:58.160 --> 1:21:01.599
<v Speaker 2>always tell whoever's riding with me they can pick the artist,

1:21:02.400 --> 1:21:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm like, you pick the artist and I'll put

1:21:03.960 --> 1:21:06.320
<v Speaker 2>the music on, so I allow the person that's with

1:21:06.400 --> 1:21:09.800
<v Speaker 2>me to have the music choice so they're comfortable because

1:21:09.800 --> 1:21:16.000
<v Speaker 2>I'll listen to anything. Yeah, but I've basically completely moved

1:21:16.000 --> 1:21:19.160
<v Speaker 2>away from any sort of hip hop or rap on

1:21:19.200 --> 1:21:22.160
<v Speaker 2>the golf course because it's just a little too inappropriate

1:21:22.160 --> 1:21:24.960
<v Speaker 2>in case you run into somebody on another hole. I

1:21:25.000 --> 1:21:26.720
<v Speaker 2>always say having to turn the music down because I'm

1:21:26.720 --> 1:21:29.160
<v Speaker 2>nervous they're going to say word the person would be comfortable.

1:21:28.800 --> 1:21:32.600
<v Speaker 1>Hearing, Yeah, I would agree with that. I you know,

1:21:32.720 --> 1:21:36.479
<v Speaker 1>I could do country. I could do classic rock, classic rocks,

1:21:36.520 --> 1:21:38.679
<v Speaker 1>like usually what if I was going to put music

1:21:38.720 --> 1:21:41.720
<v Speaker 1>on on the course, I would put a classic rock on, Like.

1:21:41.720 --> 1:21:43.160
<v Speaker 2>Are you not a music on the golf course?

1:21:43.160 --> 1:21:43.360
<v Speaker 4>Guy?

1:21:43.600 --> 1:21:44.760
<v Speaker 5>I know I am.

1:21:44.960 --> 1:21:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I had like the speaker, I lost it. Though it

1:21:47.240 --> 1:21:50.320
<v Speaker 1>all depends. I like listen, Like, if I'm playing by myself,

1:21:50.360 --> 1:21:53.519
<v Speaker 1>I'll listen to music for sure, you know, Like it

1:21:53.600 --> 1:21:57.479
<v Speaker 1>all depends, it's all circumstantial. I like love listening to music.

1:21:57.479 --> 1:22:01.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm a huge music fan. I love golf like two

1:22:01.040 --> 1:22:04.160
<v Speaker 1>of my favorite things. One of my most memorable rounds

1:22:04.160 --> 1:22:07.840
<v Speaker 1>of golf in my life ever happened the one time

1:22:07.880 --> 1:22:10.639
<v Speaker 1>I was in Arizona and It was that Talking Stick.

1:22:10.680 --> 1:22:14.120
<v Speaker 1>They had that music festival going on at Talking Stick.

1:22:14.360 --> 1:22:16.080
<v Speaker 2>You know that thing you could Yeah, and you could.

1:22:16.160 --> 1:22:17.920
<v Speaker 2>You could just hear all the music the whole round.

1:22:18.000 --> 1:22:18.759
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I was playing.

1:22:18.840 --> 1:22:21.679
<v Speaker 1>It was like suns the sun was coming coming down,

1:22:21.960 --> 1:22:23.920
<v Speaker 1>and I was listening to like a band that I

1:22:24.000 --> 1:22:27.760
<v Speaker 1>really liked, and they were playing there. I was listening

1:22:27.800 --> 1:22:30.120
<v Speaker 1>to them play their concert while I was playing Talking Stick.

1:22:30.240 --> 1:22:31.880
<v Speaker 1>It was like a spiritual experience.

1:22:32.680 --> 1:22:34.880
<v Speaker 2>There's a I did that and we we had that

1:22:35.680 --> 1:22:40.160
<v Speaker 2>in New Orleans. They say that there's au it's the

1:22:40.240 --> 1:22:42.800
<v Speaker 2>golf course. They say when the music festival, the big

1:22:42.880 --> 1:22:44.479
<v Speaker 2>music festal comes to New Orleans, which I mean there's

1:22:44.479 --> 1:22:46.639
<v Speaker 2>probably a music festival every week, but they say there's

1:22:46.640 --> 1:22:50.160
<v Speaker 2>a course there that you park. No, it's not Audubond

1:22:50.160 --> 1:22:51.519
<v Speaker 2>because it's right there in the middle. It's one of

1:22:51.560 --> 1:22:53.200
<v Speaker 2>the ones outside that actually got watched that I was

1:22:53.240 --> 1:22:55.080
<v Speaker 2>probably in the name of it. But they said that

1:22:55.160 --> 1:22:58.360
<v Speaker 2>it you can hear the music clearly the entire round

1:22:58.400 --> 1:23:00.280
<v Speaker 2>of golf, And I was like, that sounds like something

1:23:00.280 --> 1:23:01.800
<v Speaker 2>I'd be very interested in being a part of.

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<v Speaker 1>There should be a golf course that has like a

1:23:05.560 --> 1:23:07.080
<v Speaker 1>music festival on it.

1:23:07.760 --> 1:23:09.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just in the middle of it.

1:23:09.120 --> 1:23:11.280
<v Speaker 1>While you play Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>That would be sick.

1:23:13.080 --> 1:23:14.479
<v Speaker 2>I'd pay three hundred for that ticket.

1:23:15.160 --> 1:23:16.120
<v Speaker 5>That'd be so cool.

1:23:17.280 --> 1:23:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Why don't we have this, Why don't we organize this?

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<v Speaker 2>Just get like three bands.

1:23:22.479 --> 1:23:24.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah irations, We'll get Mike iration.

1:23:25.280 --> 1:23:28.280
<v Speaker 2>This could be our golf event. Is we just like

1:23:28.640 --> 1:23:30.760
<v Speaker 2>we have three bands that are just going to be

1:23:30.800 --> 1:23:34.200
<v Speaker 2>playing music all day and you play your.

1:23:33.680 --> 1:23:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah with the yeah and you just find a course

1:23:35.880 --> 1:23:37.880
<v Speaker 1>that's got like a big open space in the middle

1:23:37.880 --> 1:23:39.280
<v Speaker 1>of it.

1:23:39.479 --> 1:23:40.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think this is I think you're on.

1:23:40.760 --> 1:23:44.840
<v Speaker 1>The Sunday just solved, you know, big best golf event

1:23:44.920 --> 1:23:47.120
<v Speaker 1>of the year. All Right, I'm gonna let you go.

1:23:47.400 --> 1:23:49.719
<v Speaker 1>We've we've talked for way too long, and I hope

1:23:49.720 --> 1:23:53.479
<v Speaker 1>that some poor soul isn't listening at this point.

1:23:53.520 --> 1:23:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Your yours tend to go along, but I can. I

1:23:56.920 --> 1:23:59.080
<v Speaker 2>can stick around for a good amount of them. A

1:23:59.120 --> 1:24:01.439
<v Speaker 2>pleasure I always I always love getting a chance to

1:24:01.479 --> 1:24:03.960
<v Speaker 2>chat with you. I, uh, what do you got anything

1:24:04.000 --> 1:24:07.800
<v Speaker 2>coming up? I'm doing PJ Tour Live. I've got a

1:24:07.800 --> 1:24:10.360
<v Speaker 2>golf trip to Michigan with three buddies. At where we go,

1:24:11.720 --> 1:24:14.120
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna do the loop. We're gonna do.

1:24:14.400 --> 1:24:14.599
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

1:24:15.600 --> 1:24:17.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't really know, honestly, can't tell you this. I

1:24:17.600 --> 1:24:19.640
<v Speaker 2>don't really know what my itinerary is.

1:24:20.479 --> 1:24:21.040
<v Speaker 5>I'm sick.

1:24:21.320 --> 1:24:25.280
<v Speaker 2>But uh what it's like three of my best friends

1:24:25.479 --> 1:24:29.439
<v Speaker 2>and myself are going up there and uh, and we're

1:24:29.439 --> 1:24:31.040
<v Speaker 2>gonna do. Uh, we're gonna do. I think we're doing

1:24:31.040 --> 1:24:32.559
<v Speaker 2>four or five days of golf or we Is there

1:24:32.600 --> 1:24:33.639
<v Speaker 2>place that we need to play?

1:24:35.400 --> 1:24:39.559
<v Speaker 1>You should try and try and play Belvidere and Charlotte's Boy.

1:24:40.560 --> 1:24:41.120
<v Speaker 2>Is it awesome?

1:24:41.360 --> 1:24:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's under the radar, semi private, but they allow public.

1:24:45.920 --> 1:24:47.040
<v Speaker 2>It's called Belvidere.

1:24:47.360 --> 1:24:50.439
<v Speaker 5>It's a Willie Watton. Yeah, it's a Willie Watton. Of course.

1:24:51.160 --> 1:24:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you. Let me tell you what. I'm

1:24:52.280 --> 1:24:53.640
<v Speaker 2>gonna tell you what we're playing right now, so you

1:24:53.640 --> 1:24:55.200
<v Speaker 2>can tell me if it's if we're doing it right.

1:24:55.640 --> 1:24:56.679
<v Speaker 2>Have you played Bay Harbor?

1:24:57.240 --> 1:24:57.679
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

1:24:58.080 --> 1:24:58.639
<v Speaker 2>Do you like it?

1:24:58.640 --> 1:25:01.960
<v Speaker 5>It's cool? I mean it's like right on the water play.

1:25:01.960 --> 1:25:02.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm playing Belvidere.

1:25:03.520 --> 1:25:08.120
<v Speaker 1>Belvedere's on there. Yeah, unbelievable. In press, I'm playing the

1:25:08.160 --> 1:25:10.720
<v Speaker 1>Loop and Forest Dunes probably too.

1:25:11.280 --> 1:25:14.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm playing Forest Dunes. I'm playing Boyne Highlands.

1:25:14.560 --> 1:25:17.040
<v Speaker 5>All right. I played a j g a there back

1:25:17.080 --> 1:25:17.320
<v Speaker 5>in the.

1:25:17.280 --> 1:25:18.799
<v Speaker 2>Y in Kingsley Club.

1:25:19.040 --> 1:25:21.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh, Kingsley Club's awesome. That's where I got ejected when

1:25:21.920 --> 1:25:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I started hitting the ball. Good because I started going

1:25:24.000 --> 1:25:26.000
<v Speaker 1>at two many flags. That place is cool.

1:25:26.640 --> 1:25:28.200
<v Speaker 2>So that's a good It's a good lineup. Are you

1:25:28.200 --> 1:25:28.960
<v Speaker 2>excited about it?

1:25:29.120 --> 1:25:30.599
<v Speaker 5>Grade lineup? Yeah? You got.

1:25:30.920 --> 1:25:33.240
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna have to go to Texas because I've had

1:25:33.840 --> 1:25:36.320
<v Speaker 2>I've had more people from my hometown in a day

1:25:36.320 --> 1:25:41.080
<v Speaker 2>of Twitter interaction send me stuff than in almost any

1:25:41.080 --> 1:25:43.679
<v Speaker 2>time in my career. You really to come. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>play here. You should play here. Have you been here?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you thought about this place? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 5>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta do the We gotta do the the. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't even remember what I called it. Exploration, explorations, explorations.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll do Pine Dunes, Texa. Kinney Country Club, Well, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>take it Marshall Lakeside Country Club, which is where I

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<v Speaker 2>grew up as a nine hole course. I would love

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<v Speaker 2>to hear your architectural uh talk on it, and then

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<v Speaker 2>we'll go. I'll take you to this place in Shreveport,

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<v Speaker 2>Louisiana called Herbie Kay's for dinner and they have this

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<v Speaker 2>scene called the Shrimp buster that's pounded fried shrimp and

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<v Speaker 2>a huge cold beer and to f and then we'll

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<v Speaker 2>maybe we'll play Southern Trace and we'll go play Dallas.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, all right, just got a block a week off.

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<v Speaker 2>I've already got people. I've already My dad, who you've met,

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<v Speaker 2>is in. He's all excited.

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<v Speaker 5>Already, Porter wants in.

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<v Speaker 2>Porter's gonna be in. Co's got like thirteen kids. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not if he can make it, but I love if

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<v Speaker 2>he does.

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<v Speaker 5>He can't make it, you know, he's scarce. We got it.

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<v Speaker 1>We'd have to get an Okla, Oklahoma state legend to

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<v Speaker 1>join and then he would be there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. You know what we'll get, h We'll get

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<v Speaker 2>our boy. We'll get Victor, a couple.

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<v Speaker 5>Of victor or.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just some someone we gotta get someway from.

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<v Speaker 5>I remember he was.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing a podcast with Tony Allen. When I saw him

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<v Speaker 1>at training Forest, I was talking to It's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta put Tony Allen coming on with Tony Allen. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a Chicago guy, but he's Oklahoma state legend.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. I love it. Well, thanks for having

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<v Speaker 2>me on