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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Friday Egg Podcast.

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Speaker 1: In this episode, I am joined by Fox play by

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Speaker 1: Play guy and host of the Clubhouse Podcast, Shane Bacon.

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Speaker 1: Before we get into our discussion, i'd like to ask

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Speaker 1: you all to head over to our brand new YouTube

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Speaker 1: page It's under the Fried Egg, and be sure to

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Speaker 1: check out our latest videos. Now, without further ado, here's

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Speaker 1: Bacon and the Fried Egg.

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Speaker 2: The fried Egg requires a different technique. What you need

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Speaker 2: to do is actually square the face so they'll dig

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Speaker 2: down underneath that bad lie and propel that ball right

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Speaker 2: out onto the green. Here's the thing.

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Speaker 3: Playing out of a buried lion of bunker is completely

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Speaker 3: different than playing out of a nice clean lion of

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Speaker 3: green side bunker.

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Speaker 2: You need to be aggressive on any show weather it's

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Speaker 2: sitting cleanly for its Friday Egg. Well, we've all faced.

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Speaker 2: It's the dreaded Frida Egg. It's not to be feared though.

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Speaker 4: It's actually a pretty easy shot to hit.

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Speaker 1: So you're the you're the original gangster golf blogger. I

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Speaker 1: thing like that, and I think a lot of people

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Speaker 1: know that.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's like there was I mean, Ryan

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Speaker 2: Balangie was kind of an og there was this thing

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Speaker 2: called the sand Trap. I'm trying to think of some

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Speaker 2: other golf Blogsdi Hackers Paradise was around. We had Stephanie

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Speaker 2: Way came around after a little bit of me kind

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Speaker 2: of rocket and rolling. But yeah, I was. I actually

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Speaker 2: had a buddy of mine, my buddy Andrew, when we

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Speaker 2: got out of college. I wrote for the student newspaper

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Speaker 2: and he was like, yo, man, you should like right

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Speaker 2: now on the internet. And I was like, all right.

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Speaker 2: I actually wrote a major championship previews for dead Spin

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Speaker 2: back in the Will Leech days, which is pretty o G.

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Speaker 2: I think I wrote some stuff for like Sports by

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Speaker 2: Brooks too, but I hope that there's no arcaves for

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Speaker 2: that because I would hate to see what it looked like.

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Speaker 1: Was that brooks Kopka's publication.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was like like before he realized his potential.

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Speaker 2: He had this great blog and uh and it was awesome.

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Speaker 2: It was it was it was a must read. But uh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that was Those are those are the days, man. I

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Speaker 2: had a desk in my bedroom. It was so nice.

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Speaker 2: That's where that's where all the magic happened.

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Speaker 1: You literally woke up and you know, instead of a basement,

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Speaker 2: The ground in Phoenix is too hard to dig down to,

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Speaker 2: my my buddy, same buddy, Andrew, the one that I

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Speaker 2: was telling you complained. Him and I were living together,

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Speaker 2: and he gave me the bigger bedroom because he was like,

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Speaker 2: you're the loser that stays at home and rights all

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Speaker 2: the time, so you can have the bigger room. I

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Speaker 2: was like, thank you, sir.

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Speaker 1: When when you're writing, and when you were just blogging

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Speaker 1: and doing this for all these different sites, why did

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Speaker 1: you know that you were kind of like set and

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Speaker 1: locked in for with golf for the rest of your life.

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Speaker 2: Man, the rest of my life. Don't say that.

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Speaker 1: Well, you probably you might move on to bigger and

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Speaker 1: better things.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I I you know what I wrote when

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Speaker 2: I first got my job with AOL fan house. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if that makes sense. They kind of listened

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I still get people that call me Sean.

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Speaker 2: I got called Sean twice on air this year Sean

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Speaker 2: Bacon twice. Host go back to Sean. I was like,

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Speaker 2: that's close enough.

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Speaker 1: Well, they didn't even know brooks Cepko Sam turning the

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Speaker 5: Don't feel beast.

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Speaker 5: But he's just won two major championships.

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Speaker 2: You know what, though, you know, there's a level of

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Speaker 2: like nice. You know, that's okay. I'm okay with that.

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Speaker 1: I think, like I've always wished like if I became famous,

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Speaker 2: You know, my Facebook profile since I was like out

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Speaker 2: to have the career of Charles how the third because

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's the that's the life. It's not when

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Speaker 5: That's not the best life. Best life is.

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Speaker 2: Know, but didn't like have have a little success. It's

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Speaker 2: They want the Starbucks brist to screw up your name

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Speaker 2: If ever, you know, they're probably not going to mess

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Speaker 5: I feel like football, you could have some Bubba's.

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Speaker 2: He won the one us AM, he won the one

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Speaker 2: Well, I always wanted a broadcast, the issue being that

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Speaker 1: It's crazy because you see it. I see it on

434
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Speaker 1: like at like a state level, like these kids and

435
00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,120
Speaker 1: what's happened with like amateur golf, Like if you don't

436
00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,119
Speaker 1: shoot like I remember when I was in college, Like

437
00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,520
Speaker 1: if I shot seventy seven, I was in the State AM,

438
00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,879
Speaker 1: you know, right, And nowadays it's like if you got

439
00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,080
Speaker 1: to shoot even par or better to get into the

440
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,560
Speaker 1: state amp, you know. And there's so many kids that

441
00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 1: are so good. I mean, I played golf with a

442
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,160
Speaker 1: kid that's going to Illinois next year, you know, at

443
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,440
Speaker 1: his USAM qualifier, he shot ten under over two rounds,

444
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,720
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, I don't have ten I never

445
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,400
Speaker 1: have done under the bag and this kid has at eighteen.

446
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,080
Speaker 2: No, it's it's it's silly, and it's only getting younger.

447
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,320
Speaker 2: I always say when I play in those USAM or qualifiers,

448
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 2: us OAM qualifiers, whatever. And you know, I live in Arizona,

449
00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:47,680
Speaker 2: so a lot of SU kids, or if I'm done

450
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,000
Speaker 2: in two, so on, a lot of you of A kids,

451
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 2: And they all hang around after not because they want

452
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,639
Speaker 2: to see what their friends shot or their teammates what

453
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,440
Speaker 2: they shot, but it's because they know their teammates shot

454
00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,639
Speaker 2: something good enough to at least be in the conversation,

455
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,879
Speaker 2: and they're just waiting to see what that number is.

456
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,800
Speaker 2: That's what's crazy. Is it's not hey would you shoot? Hey,

457
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 2: how'd you play? It's it's you know, how low was it?

458
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 2: Was it four? Was it five? It's it's an expectation

459
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:11,480
Speaker 2: to go out there and do it. And I think

460
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 2: that's why you're seeing so many amateurs in these events,

461
00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,640
Speaker 2: you know, I mean there's there's nineteen amateurs or twenty

462
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,840
Speaker 2: nine ameters at the US Open. It was crazy how

463
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 2: many of those guys there were, and they get there

464
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 2: expecting to do well. You know, it's not just to

465
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Speaker 2: show up and get your pending and walk around between

466
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 2: the ropes and smile of fans. I mean they're there

467
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,200
Speaker 2: expecting to make the weekend and to play well enough

468
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Speaker 2: to get in the conversation. And I said it this

469
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,080
Speaker 2: year and it was wrong. But I'll tell you this,

470
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Speaker 2: we are going to get to a place at some

471
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Speaker 2: point where I truly believe an amateur is going to

472
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Speaker 2: be at least not maybe in the hunt come the weekend,

473
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Speaker 2: but I could see, you know, at top ten or

474
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Speaker 2: a couple of amateurs in the top ten in the

475
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,000
Speaker 2: coming years, because the confidence level just continues to soar.

476
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Speaker 1: I've kind of been waiting for an amateur when at

477
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Speaker 1: like the professional level. You know, a couple of years

478
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Speaker 1: ago we had Paul in the final group of the Open.

479
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,199
Speaker 1: Then we had Morikawa was in a playoff on a

480
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:10,640
Speaker 1: web tour, and Thornberry Sam Burns was head of top ten.

481
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 1: Both those guys, you know, like it's it's just a

482
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 1: matter of time before one of these kids wins one

483
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 1: of these things.

484
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Speaker 2: Didn't Summer Hayes win something as an amateur.

485
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Speaker 5: I think he won a web. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm.

486
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,679
Speaker 2: With you, but it's you know what's funny is I'm

487
00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,119
Speaker 2: reading the match right now and I've never read it before.

488
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody wanted to know what took you so long.

489
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 1: That's a question from Mike McGee.

490
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Speaker 2: People that were not happy about that, and I'm like, listen, sorry,

491
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,200
Speaker 2: I just I mean, I've just never got around reading

492
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 2: it and and I'm reading it right now, and it's funny.

493
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 2: You know, the dialogue about the amateur golfer in that book.

494
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,439
Speaker 2: Of course, you know this is happening in the in

495
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 2: the in the thirties and the forties and the fifties,

496
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 2: but the dialogue around the idea of the amateur was

497
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 2: this gentleman game, and it's it's turning. It's not because

498
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,159
Speaker 2: the golf's going back to this gentleman level of I'm

499
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 2: going to be an amate golf because it's you know,

500
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 2: you can make more money there, for goodness says we

501
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,479
Speaker 2: know that's not true, but I do. I'm very interested

502
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 2: in the amateur competing in these events again, because I

503
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 2: truly think there's a chance that this could be a thing.

504
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 2: I mean, what do you think, you know, the the

505
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 2: USGA would do in the Buddy Marucci's of the world

506
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 2: would do if we had an amateur the final group

507
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Speaker 2: of the US Open. I mean, it would be unbelievable.

508
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,199
Speaker 2: I mean it would be it would It would almost

509
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 2: it would make you know, kind of their decision for

510
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,919
Speaker 2: all these years. It would make it almost kind of

511
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 2: like worth the weight to see if this could happen,

512
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 2: because I truly think it could. I think we could

513
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 2: see an amateur maybe not win, but I could definitely

514
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Speaker 2: see an amateur compete.

515
00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think.

516
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 1: I mean, look at I mean, like Cole Hammer is

517
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 1: a perfect example. You know, he's uh Texas. You know,

518
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,199
Speaker 1: he's kind of like the next phenom for Texas after

519
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 1: they had you know, Speith was the young phenom and

520
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 1: then they had Hostler, who is you know. Hostler is

521
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,080
Speaker 1: like a good example of that because he was in

522
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 1: contention at that US Open at Olympic.

523
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Speaker 2: Club, right.

524
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: So, I mean it's a matter of time. I mean,

525
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: it's the whole amateur game has changed. It's it's a

526
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 1: fascinating thing with like mid ams and and ams and

527
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: like I think the gap between you know, the mid

528
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 1: am and the and the regular am, which is now

529
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 1: college kids and high schoolers is getting wider than ever.

530
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Speaker 2: I absolutely agree. I mean it's like I love trying

531
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 2: to do the USA and are qualifying, but it's like, like,

532
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 2: I got will you do it out there with those guys?

533
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 2: Come on, Like it is a waste of my time.

534
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 2: It's like I get out there and I shoot, Like

535
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 2: you said, I shoot a great round of seventy six.

536
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Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, well see you guys, and I

537
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Speaker 2: sixty four.

538
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Speaker 5: Yeah.

539
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: Well that's the thing is like seventy two seventy is

540
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Speaker 1: I remember that, even like four years ago I had

541
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Speaker 1: I had a good USAM where I missed by like

542
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Speaker 1: a shot, and I shot I think, I want to

543
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: say shot seventy three seventy one, you know, And and it's

544
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: like nowadays that's like just like pack up your bags.

545
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:08,479
Speaker 1: You got no chance. You're like trunk slamming. I mean,

546
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 1: the kids are trunk slamming at that and that was

547
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 1: like five years ago.

548
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 2: Uber slamming. They're uber slamming. They'll get out of there.

549
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 5: Yeah.

550
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: So in terms of amateur golf, you know, it seems

551
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 1: like you had a great time at the AM. Do

552
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 1: you do you think more amateur golf coverage is coming.

553
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 2: I would like to see it, you know, the Golf Channel,

554
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, for US, I mean, obviously we

555
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,600
Speaker 2: do quite a bit of am or golf. I am

556
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 2: actually surprised the Golf Channel doesn't do more of it.

557
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm surprised that the Western AM's not televised.

558
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: I'm surprised. I'd be I would. I don't understand why

559
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 2: there's not. And I mean do they call them amateur majors?

560
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 2: I mean, can we talk about what a major would

561
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 2: be at ander Golf? But there's you know, there's four

562
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 2: or five events that you could do the coverage from

563
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 2: start to finish, and kudo's to Golf Channel on the

564
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 2: collegiate coverage, they do a great job with that, and

565
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 2: I just feel like, why wouldn't you do this? Because

566
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 2: you know, the US Amateur's my favorite event we cover

567
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: all year. I mean, and it's not even close. I mean,

568
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 2: both the Women's and the US Amateur. The storylines, the play,

569
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,960
Speaker 2: the names that come out of it, the names you remember,

570
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 2: the guys you see when they're fourteen and fifteen, they

571
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 2: get through that eventually are eighteen and are competing. You know,

572
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 2: you think about our first US Open cole Hammer's a

573
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: fifteen year old US Open gets into that, and now

574
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 2: he's the favorite coming into the US Amateur and he's

575
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: a co medalist. You know, I love watching and walking

576
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 2: those storylines through year after year, and I don't see

577
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 2: how passionate golf people wouldn't be into that. I mean, again,

578
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 2: you know there's budgets for television stuff and live events.

579
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 2: Live golf is the biggest budget of any sport because

580
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 2: there's so many cameras you need on different places. But

581
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 2: I'd watched the Western Dam. I mean, you've watched the

582
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 2: Western Dam. I'd be glued to it, you know. I mean,

583
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,360
Speaker 2: this would be must watch TV for me. And with

584
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 2: the with the way the PGA Tour is going to

585
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 2: the passionate golf fan and the level of kind of

586
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 2: intrigue that comes with the PJ Tour or lack thereof,

587
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I think we're going to be looking for

588
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 2: more golf to watch on TV. And to me, amer

589
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 2: Golf makes the most sense it.

590
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 6: I feel like they could do low budget telecast do

591
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 6: like we saw it when the guys were on strike

592
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,360
Speaker 6: this year, rise as Sony, Like they really only need

593
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 6: a couple cameras to do it effectively, you.

594
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 2: Know, yeah, yeah, I mean it's yeah. I mean, I

595
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: guess you're right like to see it. Sure, I mean,

596
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 2: you'd be hard pressed to find somebody in TV that

597
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 2: would that would be willing to kind of take the

598
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 2: we're going to do a low budget approach to it.

599
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 2: But you know, you you do the back nine of

600
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: the Western I mean, you know, you don't have to

601
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 2: have as many cameras. It's almost like the Masters in

602
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 2: the old days. I think if that happened, inevitably, more

603
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: invites would come for that stuff.

604
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 4: You know.

605
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 2: That's something I always wish would happen. I wish there

606
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 2: was more more invites to things for these guys that

607
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 2: win these huge events, because these huge events are very,

608
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,959
Speaker 2: very hard to win. You know, the Western am is,

609
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 2: in my opinion, the hardest event in the world to win,

610
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 2: professional or amateur or otherwise. And you should get invited

611
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: to this big stuff if you win that thing. It's crazy.

612
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't understand getting.

613
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: The US Open and the Masters in the PG Championship

614
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: like that should be an honor to come with it.

615
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: And I feel like if the TV, if TV followed that,

616
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: maybe there'd be a better chance of that happening.

617
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be cool, I think with I think

618
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: it's we're going to see more of it in the future.

619
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: It would be you know, there's like, I don't know,

620
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: the Pacific Coast AM is always a big one, you know,

621
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: the Sonnyanna. You know, there's there's North South, like there

622
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: are a lot of really cool events that these kids

623
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: are so good, that's the thing, you know. You like,

624
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: I watched the Western AM. I didn't go this year.

625
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: I had a bunch of stuff, but the year before,

626
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: you know, and these guys go around and shoot like

627
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: sixty three at Skochie in Chicago, which is like, like

628
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: sixty three is like not what I expected.

629
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's it's a joke. But no, I

630
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 2: you know again, you know, I love being a part

631
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 2: of something like the US Open because it's the US Open,

632
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 2: but you know, for me to to get a chance

633
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 2: to do these you know, quote unquote lower level events

634
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 2: at the US Junior or the Curtis Cup, things like that,

635
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 2: you know, the passion in those events, the passion of

636
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 2: the golf and the passion of the win, and it's

637
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: simply being a match win, you know, winning a mansion

638
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: moving on. You know, the passion there is what to

639
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 2: me you and I is Golf's like now, the golf's better.

640
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,959
Speaker 2: But if I'm playing you for a ten dollars NASA,

641
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: we're not really playing for the money, you know, We're

642
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 2: really playing for to the win.

643
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, pick up basketball. It's like why you get

644
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: past it's the competitiveness in terms of what do you

645
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: think the you you do the PGA Tour live stuff,

646
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: so you're around the tour pros. What what do you

647
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: think the biggest difference between the top ams and the

648
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Speaker 1: your regular Joe Schmo tour player, say you're Billy Horsechell.

649
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: It's probably putting, and it's probably course management, I would say.

650
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 2: I mean, there's not a ton of course management even

651
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 2: on the PGA Tour anymore, but there's still a little

652
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 2: bit of it, you know. I mean, I mean, I

653
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 2: know brooks Keefka doesn't really do that, but you know,

654
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: there is a level of understanding when to attack and

655
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 2: when not to. And I think you still see amateurs

656
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 2: at times, in big pressure moments, maybe make a decision

657
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: they shouldn't have made because they think they've got to

658
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 2: win that hole and that's the last time. You know

659
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: what's funny is is I saw a lot of that

660
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 2: with putting this week, or excuse me, this past week

661
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 2: with Pebble Beach. Was I saw a lot on the

662
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: greens when a guy's two down or three down with

663
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: five to go and it's a birdie putt and they

664
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,959
Speaker 2: gas at twelve feet by because they think they have

665
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: to make the birdie putt, not thinking themselves. If I

666
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 2: three putt this, I'm oh, it's over. You know. Even

667
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 2: if I don't make this BIRDI putt and I've got

668
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 2: a couple to go, I could pull something off.

669
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: That's a fascinating thing that I think. I like, I

670
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: always think about, like how I've learned about stuff, like

671
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: as I get older, Like I'm so much smarter now.

672
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: I'm not nearly as good as I used to be,

673
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: but I'm way better, if that makes sense, right, And

674
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: like one of the things people will be like, well, like, hey,

675
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: you know, if I'm playing a two man game, they'll

676
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: be like, this this putt.

677
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 5: If it doesn't go in, it doesn't matter.

678
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: And I'm like, and I say back, I'm like, it's

679
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: going in the same speed as if it was going

680
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: to go in. If this if the next putt really mattered, Like,

681
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: I don't believe in this whole making putts like you

682
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: hit it harder to make it, Like, just hit the

683
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: putt the same speed you'd usually hit it, you.

684
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 2: Know, absolutely, you know that's something that I do, and

685
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: I've done poorly in especially best ball qualifiers. My buddy

686
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 2: Ashton Woods and I have yet to qualify for the

687
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: four ball. I think we missed out by a shot

688
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. But I tend I feel

689
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: like I have at times felt like these putts are

690
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: do or die when I'm the guy hitting a birdie putt,

691
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: and if I was playing just by myself, I wouldn't

692
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 2: do that. So I've almost started to try to approach

693
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 2: those types of things, a two man thing in particular,

694
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: just trying to play golf all my own, thinking that

695
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 2: it's you know, it's exactly what it'd be like if

696
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: it was a strokeplay event, because there's so much pressure.

697
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm the last one with a BIRDI putt.

698
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: I well, I've got to make it, you know, And

699
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: you're like, well, yeah, but I mean you want to

700
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 2: make every putty you hit, don't you, So why wouldn't

701
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: you just roll the same way.

702
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 5: You're trying to make every part right exactly.

703
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: I mean you're trying to make You're trying to make

704
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: every putt or that that's makeable, right. I mean there's

705
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: definitely puts you know you're not that aren't a realistic opportunity.

706
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, you're trying to make every puts, So hit it,

707
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 2: hit it to make it, but also hit it knowing

708
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 2: that you know it's it's got to go in, as

709
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: you said, with a certain speed. You're not just taking

710
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: the breakout in gas and a ten foot you know.

711
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: I heard somebody told me that they their trick for

712
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: the two the best ball tournaments as they play a

713
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: mat against each other.

714
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 2: What's that? Any starts say that again?

715
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 5: I heard this trick.

716
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: This guy told me he's he's had a ton of

717
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: success in two man tournaments and him and his partner

718
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: play matches against each other.

719
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: Interesting, so internally between the two they play against, they

720
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 2: have like they have probably.

721
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: For me, they have like a betting game between the

722
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: two of them during while they're playing together in a tournament.

723
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: So the other each other are just trying to beat

724
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: the ship out of each other.

725
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: The whole time. Yeah. I mean it's probably so smart.

726
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: I mean, and then you get done and you go

727
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: we either qualified or we didn't, but we had fun

728
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 2: doing it. There's Yeah. The idea that is it gets uh,

729
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 2: the pressure can the pressure can make you play golf

730
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: a way you never play golf. And it's that's the

731
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 2: big difference in people that can do it and people

732
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: that can't.

733
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 5: You know, Yeah, it's all it's all comfort.

734
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: That's the thing is like the pressure makes you uncomfortable,

735
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: and uncomfortable is when people just do bad. It's that's

736
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: the that's the trick to tournament off is getting comfortable.

737
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: I mean there's been plenty of times where I'm not

738
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: comfortable and the scores absolutely reflected.

739
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's awful.

740
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: There's nothing worse than when you're on the first t

741
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: and you know you're not ready.

742
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 5: To play in the tournament.

743
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: So what was your favorite course to cover this year

744
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: on the USGA circuit And what was your favorite course

745
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: that you played either USGA or non USGA course.

746
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's just because I'm talking to you.

747
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 2: I mean, I think covering Chicago golf, getting a chance

748
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: to see it for a first time, getting a chance

749
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: to show it with the cameras we had and allow

750
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 2: people kind of a glimpse into that place. I think,

751
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: you know, there's probably two or three places in the

752
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 2: country that maybe or as exclusive in the sense of

753
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: eyeballs on at the Chicago Golf So I think mixing

754
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 2: that with the fact that it was a first USGA

755
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 2: championship and you were a part of that, that was

756
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: pretty special. I felt like our team kind of approached

757
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 2: it that way. You know, they went in to it knowing,

758
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: you know, this is this is gonna be the you know,

759
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: there's not many first USGA championships, and to get it,

760
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 2: to get to do it on Chicago Golf and then

761
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 2: my favorite course I played on the road, you know,

762
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 2: I played. Didn't play a ton of golf this year.

763
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: Last year we played golf all the time. It was crazy.

764
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: I mean we played Prairie Dunes twice one week. Last year,

765
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 2: we played Myopia and Essex and all these crazy places.

766
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 2: This year, didn't play a ton of golf. I did

767
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 2: get a chance to play Fishers during media Day, and

768
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 2: I think, you know, just in the sense of a

769
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 2: day and an experience, that was probably the best, just

770
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 2: because you know, there's you know, there's going to play

771
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 2: an elite level golf course that's in elite level condition.

772
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: Fishers is not going to be an elite level condition

773
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: just because it's just that's just not what it is.

774
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: You know, It's it's in it's in good condition, and

775
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: it's a piece of property that I've always wanted to see.

776
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: And you know, we did the whole thing. We did

777
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 2: the ferry and the boat and the driving and so

778
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 2: it's an entire day to go see this kind of

779
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 2: gem of a golf course. So that was probably my favorite.

780
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 2: I had a hell of a good time doing that.

781
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 2: And then you know, I mean I got I got

782
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: to play you know, I got to play in that

783
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: National and Cypress. You know, I mean these are two

784
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: of the best golf courses in the country, and so

785
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: I mean you kind of take your pick on those.

786
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 2: I almost feel like they're kind of similar, you know,

787
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 2: they're they're a small, smaller ballparks next to these championship

788
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 2: golf courses that host championship events. Yet they're the ones

789
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 2: that everybody tries to get on. You know, everybody wants

790
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 2: to get on National and everybody wants to get on Cypress.

791
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 2: Overplaying a pebble, and so you know, that's what you know.

792
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 2: People I had a friend asked me, is Cyprus your

793
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: favorite course you ever played? And you know, I don't

794
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 2: know what that means. I don't know what my favorite

795
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 2: course is. I know what my favorite experiences were, and

796
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: I almost vote, voted and rate it more on that.

797
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 2: You know, the experiences of the people you're with and

798
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 2: how much they're into it, and how fun you're having

799
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 2: and how much you're taking in the course. You know,

800
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 2: how often are you pulling out a camera? I think

801
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 2: is something that is that I've really started to be

802
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: cognizant of. And I know, with you and i's jobs

803
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 2: and with plenty of people around, that's part of it.

804
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: So one of my kind of rules is, like I

805
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: I try to pull I try not to look at

806
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 2: my or pull my phone or camera out at least

807
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: on the entire front nine, because I know it's you know,

808
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 2: we live in a world where we have to kind

809
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 2: of post this stuff. But I don't want to be

810
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 2: on that, you know, I want to be breathing in

811
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 2: and looking around and enjoying the experience.

812
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 1: So my new thing is, like I love the places

813
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: that are like the strictest about no cell phones. I

814
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: actually like I love when I leave my phone in

815
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: my car and it's just gone and I just get.

816
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 6: To play golf.

817
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 5: You know.

818
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: That's it's funny how it's changed, how golf isn't like

819
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:53,879
Speaker 1: just pure golf like it.

820
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 2: Used to be. Well, and but you know the thing

821
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,479
Speaker 2: again is, you know, for me, you know, I've kind

822
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 2: of got I got to post the golf that I

823
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: play because it's part of what we do, and I

824
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: have I'm with you, I've kind of gone one ady

825
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 2: on it. I mean, I don't I hate. I hate.

826
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 2: I hate interrupting a moment of a round at a

827
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: place like Cyprus to take a picture, even though I

828
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: want to take pictures because every hole is awesome, you know.

829
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 2: So you know, I want to have my phone out

830
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: the entire time, but I I won't, and I don't

831
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 2: need to because you know, when when when freaking Ben

832
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 2: Hogan was walking around Cyprus Point, he wouldn't taken pictures,

833
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 2: you know, and he could remember every hole on every

834
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: step and every bump on every green because he was

835
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 2: taking it in with different sensory details, and so like

836
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 2: you know, for me, it's it's reminding myself that a

837
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 2: picture doesn't define the fact that I was there. You know,

838
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 2: I don't need a picture to say I played Cyprus point.

839
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 2: I played Cyber's point because I played Cyber's point And

840
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 2: There'll be moments from that round that I remember the

841
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 2: rest of my life. And uh. And so I'm trying,

842
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm really really trying to be on

843
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 2: my phone, if at all, maybe one or two holes

844
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: to take a picture or two and then put it

845
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: back away.

846
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 5: Yeah.

847
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: So with uh, with pebble, Uh and next year having

848
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: the US Open, do you expect to see much changes

849
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: to the course from us AM to US Open?

850
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 4: And Uh?

851
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: How how helpful was it to get to call it

852
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: there and then have it there?

853
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 2: Next year, the rough will be higher and the roff

854
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,240
Speaker 2: will be thicker. It'll it'll play a little bit different,

855
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: just in the sense of scheduling. It was dry this week.

856
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 2: I mean they hadn't had rains since April, so it

857
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 2: was dried and pretty firm, and the greens were firm.

858
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 2: I'm hoping you see a little bit about that. We'll

859
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 2: have well, I think we'll have more. I think the

860
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 2: winds will be more swirly when we're there. We didn't

861
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 2: get a ton of wind during the few days there

862
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 2: at Pebble, but I would say the roughs up. Having

863
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 2: an opportunity to be there and cover it and get

864
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 2: a feel for the way people play certain holes in

865
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 2: certain shots and teas they might play certain days. I

866
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 2: mean it's impossible to explain how beneficial that is for us.

867
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy good. I mean, we know where

868
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 2: the booth is, like, we know where the boot's gonna be.

869
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 2: You know, we know where these amateur kids, where these

870
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: kids are hitting their driver on eighteen. I mean, you'll

871
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: never in fifty years of watching the AT and T

872
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 2: you'll never see draws where these kids were on eighteen,

873
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 2: just because it's a different time of year. I mean,

874
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 2: they were thirty past the tree, forty past the tree

875
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: hidden six irons and eighteen green. I mean, so it'll

876
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 2: be interested to see if it plays a little like

877
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: that in June, like it did, you know, in August. So,

878
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,879
Speaker 2: but you know, I think we'll see it. I think

879
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 2: we'll see it play somewhat similar in the sense of scoring,

880
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 2: because with the winds down, Pebble's gettable, and with the

881
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 2: winds up it plays really difficult.

882
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and I think those greens are so small too.

883
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: It's just crazy how tough that place is. For that's

884
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: a great example of a course offending part despite like

885
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: without yardage.

886
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, it's not a long golf course by any

887
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: stretch of the imagination. But if you put yourself in

888
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 2: one weird spot, you know, if you put yourself left

889
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 2: on nine or ten, it's you're you're scrambling to save

890
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 2: par despite having a note iron in your hand.

891
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the thing too, is like the uneven

892
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: lies out there like that. You know, you rarely have

893
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: like a flat lie. It's something I've noticed I play

894
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: less and less golf now, and I like, I know

895
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: I actually play like par three's exceptionally well.

896
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,359
Speaker 5: And I thought about it the other day.

897
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: I was like, well, it's because it's like a dead

898
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: flat lie every time, you know, And it's like it

899
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: gets so much harder when the ball is like above

900
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: or below your feet and you know you have like

901
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: a It's so weird how that little difference makes it.

902
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: But that that at the pro levels, like everything if

903
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: it's everything's flat, it's just target practice for these guys.

904
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like when it's it's like when it's soft.

905
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 2: You know what I want to say this about pebble.

906
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: I used to talk a little bit of trash about one,

907
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 2: like everybody did. And you know two and it's a

908
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 2: par five is kind of a gettable, kind of a whatever.

909
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: Par five. Pebble's awesome. It is awesome. There are like

910
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 2: it is. It is such an awesome walk around and

911
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: the views in the in the par threes, you know,

912
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 2: the kind of the different par threes you play, in

913
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 2: the shots you play. You know, I hadn't been there

914
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 2: in a while. I hadn't been a pebble probably in

915
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 2: six or seven years. And I just walking around that

916
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 2: place and drive around, you just you just forget how

917
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 2: how strategic fifteen and sixteen are. You know, these are

918
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: holes that you're not going to see the ocean, but

919
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 2: they're there. You've got to put the ball in the

920
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: right spot to take advantage, and the greens defend, like

921
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: you said, and I was. I was massively impressed by it.

922
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 2: I don't spend a lot of time watching the pro

923
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: am on TV just because it's a lot of it's

924
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 2: a lot of non golf they show. But getting a

925
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 2: chance to kind of take that golf course in for

926
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 2: a few days of the Championship Golf Man, I was

927
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 2: I'm pumped for the US Open. I think it's gonna

928
00:42:58,400 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: be so awesome.

929
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, the is like overrated.

930
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: Take is so overblown, Like exactly, It's like it's in

931
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: this tier of golf courses, like I don't think about

932
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 1: like numbers, but rather like classes. And it's like Pebble

933
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: is the golf course that you get on a plane

934
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: and go play, you know, like if somebody says, hey,

935
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: we got a spot at Pebble and you don't have

936
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: to pay, like I'm getting on a plane tomorrow to

937
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: go play.

938
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, there's you know, there's six or seven holes

939
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 2: of pebble that are basically untouched. You know, there's nothing

940
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 2: that can really touch them, and and that's what makes

941
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 2: it fun. Also, the new T on ten is awesome.

942
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 2: I hope they played the new T the new T

943
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: on ten, but I bet they don't, but I wish

944
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 2: they would.

945
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: They have that one on nine too, that's way down

946
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: to the right. I think I don't know if they

947
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 1: used it last week, but yeah, that stretch of holes

948
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: is unbelievable. So it's like it's probably the best stretch

949
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 1: of golf and you know, one of the best stretch

950
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: of off in North America. So I had KVV on

951
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,919
Speaker 1: the podcast a couple of weeks ago, and we talked

952
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: about Golf Star and what changes we would make to

953
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: the game. If you were the Golf Star, what's the

954
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: one change you'd make?

955
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 2: I would I would not be as afraid of match

956
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 2: play on the professional level as it seems like we are.

957
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 2: I would say that would probably be my first thing

958
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 2: I would. I would I would move to PG Championship

959
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: to match play immediately. I would probably make the Tour

960
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 2: Championship match play.

961
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, that should totally be match play.

962
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I was thinking about the playoff because I

963
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 2: knew were going to talk a little playoffs and match

964
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: plays fear. It's TV based, of course, but you know

965
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 2: the match play fears. You get two guys that nobody

966
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: cares about in the finals, and then you're gonna get

967
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 2: bad ratings. The funny thing is, like the Tour Championships

968
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 2: thirty guys, and they're always pretty much ninety five percent

969
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 2: of guys you've heard of. I just don't understand what

970
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 2: the fear is of that. You know, seems like the

971
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 2: easiest event to make match play is a tour championship.

972
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: They're worried about, like the Satoshi Kadeira against Seawou cam

973
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 1: in the finals.

974
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 4: But but again, I mean, but that's you know, I

975
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 4: mean seem on the players like, yeah, it's like the

976
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 4: fear again the golf.

977
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 2: To me, the names are massively important. We talked about

978
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 2: Tiger on Friday at the US Open, and showing him

979
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 2: was big for golf and for the sport. But you know,

980
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 2: when you're playing, when you're watching anybody play for a

981
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 2: ton of a life changing amount of money, even for

982
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 2: these professionals, and you're watching in a mass play format, God,

983
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: it would be so awesome. I mean you look back, like,

984
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 2: you know, the FedEx Pil playoffs when they first started,

985
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 2: a little bit like the pebble take, it was easy

986
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 2: to bag on them. I flipped a little bit on them.

987
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: You know, it's four weeks. I wish they didn't have

988
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 2: the break. I wish it was just four straight because

989
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 2: I think it should be a little bit of an

990
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: endurance test as well. But you know, four weeks and

991
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 2: all the big guys play for four straight weeks, and

992
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 2: I'm not sure that happens at any other time on

993
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: tour all year. And also if you look back over

994
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 2: the last few years, we've had some really fun finishes.

995
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 2: I mean Ryan Moore versus Rory was great, that Sander

996
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 2: was great. You know, Justin was closed and Jordan had

997
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 2: a chance to maybe make it a Justin Jordan playoff

998
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: for the FedEx Cup, which would have been would have

999
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 2: been must have watched. You know. It's it's it's good,

1000
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 2: it's for what it's supposed to do. It's intriguing. I

1001
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,720
Speaker 2: just think that if you made the Tour Championship match play,

1002
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 2: you get to that final with a lot more online

1003
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 2: than than anything else. These guys seeing that in that world, Yeah,

1004
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: you could.

1005
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: Go to thirty two guys instead of sixteen exactly, instead

1006
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: of thirty So you go to thirty two and then

1007
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 1: you take those thirty two and it's thirty two sixteen

1008
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,320
Speaker 1: eight four two, so it'd be five rounds and so

1009
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: it starts on like starts on Wednesday instead of.

1010
00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 5: Thursday.

1011
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you and then you you make you

1012
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 2: make the gaps of pay pretty wide for make it

1013
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 2: at the next day. So like if you get to

1014
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 2: the final four, the gap is is it's a big,

1015
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 2: big jump it's not like everybody's cashing a ton of money.

1016
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 2: You should make the gaps worthwhile. I mean, not like

1017
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 2: these guys need the money anyway, but at least it's

1018
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 2: something they think about in their heads. But I don't

1019
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 2: know that's something I would do that the professional world

1020
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 2: being afraid of match play is something that bothers me

1021
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: a little bit because it's something that match play is,

1022
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 2: in my opinion, the best way to golf. And uh

1023
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 2: and we as a people, for whatever reason, have we're

1024
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 2: like afraid of it. You know, it's like we have

1025
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 2: to turn in scores, we have to have a handicap.

1026
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 2: I would I would say golf carts in general, I

1027
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 2: would probably limit. I just think, you know, if you

1028
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 2: want to have golf carts on every course, you you

1029
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 2: probably shouldn't have a golf cart at any historic golf

1030
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 2: course and unless you know, obviously someone needs it for

1031
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 2: health reasons. And and I would just say, you know,

1032
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: walking is walking a golf course is a completely different experience,

1033
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 2: and as long as it's not a million degrees, it

1034
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 2: makes the game and sport more enjoyable. I really believe.

1035
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of what else I would let

1036
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 2: the PJ Tour players wear shorts too. I don't understand

1037
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 2: why they have to wear pants.

1038
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: You might get a personal call from Jeff Shackelford.

1039
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 2: I mean, that was that was one of my favorite

1040
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 2: things I said something about. I joked on that tweet

1041
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:37,720
Speaker 2: about how the NBA players wear shorts in the finals

1042
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 2: and how that's disgraceful obviously, just kind of poking fun

1043
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: of Jeff, who I like a lot. And I had

1044
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: four or five responses to people that were like, that's

1045
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 2: not the same, and I was like, yeah, you didn't

1046
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 2: get my joke. It's funny how Twitter sometimes you can't

1047
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 2: you can't totally pick up on it. I'm trying to

1048
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 2: think of some other stuff that I would do. I

1049
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 2: just I'm just in this camp. The golf's fine, you know,

1050
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 2: like like I think people that love golf love golf,

1051
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 2: you know, and people are eventually going to get to it.

1052
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 2: I've said this a lot, but we spent like the

1053
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,720
Speaker 2: better part of the two thousands trying to get people

1054
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 2: that were like sixteen years old interested in golf, and

1055
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 2: I'm like, they're going to eventually be thirty and they'll

1056
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 2: be looking for something to do.

1057
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: That's all my friends and now are played golf all

1058
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: the time on weekends and they always want I'm like,

1059
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 1: I can't play, but like they all like love golf.

1060
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: In college, they all made fun of me for playing golf.

1061
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 2: Right, I just say, wait, I mean, if we just

1062
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 2: wait a little bit, people eventually come to the sport.

1063
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 2: It's funny that, you know, we sold this bill of

1064
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 2: goods like golf in Trouble, and it's like, well, we

1065
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 2: build a whole bunch of golf courses and a lot

1066
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 2: of them aren't very good, and they're expensive and it

1067
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 2: takes forever to play. Those are the things that to me.

1068
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, you and I were having drinks

1069
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 2: and we were talking about winter Park in when we

1070
00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 2: were in Chicago, and it's like, winter Park's successful because

1071
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 2: of the business model. It's not because of anything other

1072
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 2: than the fact that it allows people to come out

1073
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 2: there any way they want for a relatively solid amount

1074
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 2: of money and enjoy themselves in their capacity. And it's

1075
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: not like get here and it's three hundred dollars and

1076
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 2: you're on the tea now and you've got to play

1077
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 2: it this fast and you've got to get done, and

1078
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 2: we're gonna yell at you and then leave the property

1079
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 2: because that's the end of your day. You know. It's

1080
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 2: just to me, it's the business approach to it. And

1081
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 2: if you approach it with a little bit more of

1082
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 2: a relaxed kind of ideal, then I think it would work.

1083
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 2: I just I mean, if you want me to be bizarre,

1084
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 2: I'd say, build fifty winter parks in every state.

1085
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 4: You know.

1086
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,240
Speaker 2: It's like, allow people that opportunity to take in golf.

1087
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just different experience. I think just in general, Yeah, I.

1088
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: Think golf, like golf needs to just appeal to like

1089
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: the die hard golfer, because like, the more somebody's friend

1090
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: loves golf, the more likely they're going to make their

1091
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: friends come golf with them. You know, they're going to

1092
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 1: keep talking about it until they try it, you.

1093
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 2: Know, and they're gonna want to check courses off their

1094
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 2: list and destinations and places to go and see this

1095
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 2: and experience that. And you know that's what that's what

1096
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 2: my friends, my friends love of the game is not

1097
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: watching Jordan Speed, no offense to Jordan Speed, and it's

1098
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: not watching Phil Mickelson, and it's not watching Dustin Johnson.

1099
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 2: You know, my friends love my friends who are my

1100
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 2: best friends. Their love of golf is you know, I

1101
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 2: sent an email yesterday about our golf trip to Tubac,

1102
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 2: Arizona in early January. You know, that's why they love golf,

1103
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 2: you know, for the for the three days they get

1104
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 2: to spend at a twenty seven hole facility that most

1105
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 2: people don't know much about, just enjoying golf and the

1106
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 2: people around it. That's kind of what I talk about

1107
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 2: with the courses. You know, it's the experience of it

1108
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 2: as much as anything. And if you're having a fun

1109
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 2: experience and golf is involved, it's going to leave you

1110
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 2: with a good taste in your mouth, you know. And

1111
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 2: and it's that's that's a pretty simple, you know, simple philosophy.

1112
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 2: I think that's why Bannon has always been so popular.

1113
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 2: You know. I think Bannon so popular because, yeah, it's

1114
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 2: a name, and it's a resort name that people know

1115
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 2: when they could buy a shirt from and wear a logo.

1116
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 2: But I think the fact that when you're there, you

1117
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 2: a don't feel like you're intruding, and b you have

1118
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 2: plenty of places to just enjoy yourself. If it's not

1119
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 2: the Preserve, its shorties or the driving range or the

1120
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 2: nineteenth Hole, or the kind of the different layouts of

1121
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 2: the pubs, or it's going back to the cottage and

1122
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 2: just sitting down in a fairly relaxing chair that doesn't

1123
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 2: seem like it cost a billion dollars and you just

1124
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 2: kind of take in the weather and you know that

1125
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 2: that is to me, it's it's a it's a simple approach, sure,

1126
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 2: but you know, you leave that place feeling good, even

1127
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 2: if you played bad, you leave the place feeling good.

1128
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's uh, and it's it's just it's uh catered

1129
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 3: towards the the masses as opposed to you know, the

1130
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 3: the one percent professional like the you know, I'm not

1131
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 3: going to beg too much on TPC network, but you know,

1132
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 3: the idea of playing a off course and it's built

1133
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 3: for pros, like as a fifteen handicap is like, that's

1134
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 3: just a preposterously dumb idea.

1135
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: You know, just go get your teeth kicked in for

1136
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,720
Speaker 1: two hours or four hours, five hours.

1137
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 2: It's so funny you and I talked about it a lot.

1138
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 2: It's so funny that, like I mean, for decades, Andy,

1139
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 2: for decades, the only places you really went with these

1140
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,880
Speaker 2: places that would beat the shit out of you. You're like, hey,

1141
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 2: let's go on this golf trip to X place, and

1142
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 2: you go when it's seventy four hundred and it's impossible

1143
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 2: and two yards off the fairway is is you lose

1144
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 2: your ball? And you're like, I spent a lot of

1145
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 2: money on this trip.

1146
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's just like the first reaction is hard,

1147
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 1: Like I can't stand that. It's it's the worst thing

1148
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 1: in the world. But uh, speaking of match play, Ryder

1149
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: Cup coming up, who's winning? If you gounder your head today?

1150
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 2: Oh man, I mean, I guess I'll go us. I

1151
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 2: know it's been a long time. I think it's going

1152
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 2: to be more competitive than maybe some of my fellow

1153
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 2: golf journalism people believe it will be. I know there's

1154
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 2: been some people that are saying it's going to be

1155
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 2: an American route. I don't think it's ever going to

1156
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 2: be an American route when it's on international soil. But

1157
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 2: the American team is from one through twelve is silly good?

1158
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 2: I mean, And that is what you always see when

1159
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 2: it's competitive, is who wins those matches or the guys

1160
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 2: that play, you know, one team match and play singles

1161
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 2: and when it comes down to that. On Sunday and singles,

1162
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 2: when everybody's out on the golf course, I almost feel

1163
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 2: like there'll be four fairly assured points from the guys

1164
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 2: that are on the bottom part of the roster. Now,

1165
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 2: I mean, of course they could lose the match, anybody could,

1166
00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 2: but I feel like if you were going to look

1167
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 2: at that, that's where the handicap is on. A very

1168
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 2: very advantageous side for the Americans is the guys that

1169
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 2: are just going to make the team, the guys that

1170
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 2: just qualified in, or the guys that have to be

1171
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:03,280
Speaker 2: asked to play. And you know, it's the thing the Internet,

1172
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 2: the thing that Europe has that they can play the

1173
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 2: hand of if they do it the right way. Is

1174
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 2: basically just play their four best teams every time. And

1175
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 2: I mean that'll be exhausting, but I think that's probably

1176
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 2: their best play is to play the guys that are

1177
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 2: from the same countries that'll be excited to play together

1178
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 2: and almost almost allow those teams to go out there

1179
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 2: until they lose, you know, and say, Rory, if you

1180
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 2: want to play with Ian Poulter like you did four

1181
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 2: years ago, y'all go play together, and y'all are the

1182
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 2: team that are going to play four matches, and like

1183
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 2: that's how it's going to go down. And the same

1184
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 2: for Stinson and Norin. You know if they if Stinson's

1185
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,439
Speaker 2: on the team, it's like, you two guys go play.

1186
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you guys want to play together. Y'all play.

1187
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 2: Y'all are going to be our B team.

1188
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 1: And what about Justin Rose and Stinson, the icemann in Ross,

1189
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: that's the team?

1190
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 2: Okay, Well that's what I'm saying is like, whatever the

1191
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 2: team is, you go with. Like I think that because

1192
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:00,720
Speaker 2: of this, because the Americans are better him through twelve.

1193
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 2: If I was the Europeans, I would probably just play

1194
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 2: the I would probably just play our four best teams.

1195
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like Molinari's got to play every single.

1196
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 2: Every single match. Yeah, every match he's playing.

1197
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: He's like one of the three best players in the

1198
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: world right now.

1199
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 2: And like and like you know, I mean like John Rahm,

1200
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 2: who hasn't had as good as year as he's had

1201
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,439
Speaker 2: in years past. But you know, Rom's got to find

1202
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,279
Speaker 2: somebody he's gonna be excited to play with. And like

1203
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to roll these big name players out

1204
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 2: a lot, and uh.

1205
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:35,280
Speaker 1: Rom should play with Sevy, you know, bring him back

1206
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: because he's idolized like any Spanish player.

1207
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 2: Any Spanish player that's ever played. It's uh, you know,

1208
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 2: it's it's one of those things like who is it

1209
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 2: gonna be? Rom and Sergio? I mean, I guess I.

1210
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: Don't know if Sergio is even making a team.

1211
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 2: They'll probably get him on.

1212
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 1: They have to put him on, right yeah, I think so,

1213
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: Like that's the thing is like Stenson Sergio Poulter is

1214
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 1: gonna have to be a pick now. Polter is like

1215
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 1: a lock right for sure. And then you know Sergio

1216
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: and Stenson are outside, you know, Cabrera bao Okay.

1217
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 2: Shane Ryan, I think Shane Ryan wrote this, But like,

1218
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 2: what's wrong with me wanting to root for the Europeans

1219
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 2: because I kind of do want to root for the Europeans.

1220
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: I kind of am rooting for the Europeans.

1221
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 5: Also, I kind of.

1222
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 2: I mean, like I feel like it's become such a

1223
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 2: popular opinion, like the America team's gonna roll, and it's

1224
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 2: like all like the perfectly cookie cutter players that are

1225
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 2: like massively successful, like Jordan and Justin and Brooks and

1226
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 2: all these guys that are like they're like perfect in golf,

1227
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 2: and I feel like it's almost flipped where it was

1228
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 2: like that was the team for the Europeans for so long,

1229
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 2: and we'd roll out these guys and you'd be like,

1230
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 2: maybe they have a chance, even though you knew they

1231
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 2: probably didn't really have a chance. And I'll say, you know,

1232
00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 2: with us covering these team events, I think that the

1233
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: team events are the easiest events to predict by looking

1234
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 2: at the teams on looking at the players on paper.

1235
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 2: You know, like we had the Walker Cup last year

1236
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 2: and there was no doubt in my mind the Americans

1237
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 2: were going to kill him and they did, and there

1238
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 2: was no doubt in my mind the Americans are gonna

1239
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 2: win when you just look.

1240
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 1: At the players, you know, I think the European team

1241
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 1: has better personalities, agreed, you know they have they have Poulter,

1242
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: they have McElroy, They've got you know, like Fleetwood is

1243
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,919
Speaker 1: like I think, impossible to route against. He's like him, Yeah,

1244
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: he's going to be a superstar. I think Noran's a

1245
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,200
Speaker 1: good dude, you know, like to root for. I don't know,

1246
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 1: I just think they have like a more like you know,

1247
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: Web and Bubba don't really do it for me, you know,

1248
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 1: like I don't have an I don't have an opinion really,

1249
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:58,240
Speaker 1: you know, right.

1250
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 2: I mean, like I love watching Ricky Fowler play golf.

1251
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 2: I do. I really enjoy watching Ricky play golf. But

1252
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 2: it's not like, you know, like he's not gonna be

1253
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 2: out on the course during the Ryder Cup like running

1254
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 2: around high fiving like Sergio in ninety nine. You know,

1255
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 2: like it's like I know what I'm getting with most

1256
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 2: of the guys on the American side.

1257
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing, is like there's more personality on

1258
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: the on the European team. That's why they're more Why

1259
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: I feel like I want to root for him more.

1260
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 2: I just like I guess, like my American allegiance, like

1261
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 2: I if there's if there's a thing, it's like I

1262
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 2: kind of think about it in the Olympics a lot.

1263
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 2: I'm always like I'm rooting for this American speed stater

1264
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 2: and there's this guy from Belgium that's gonna win like

1265
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 2: one of three Winter Olympic medals for his entire country,

1266
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 2: Like why I don't want that? Gotta win, that's this

1267
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 2: guy's gonna like change his entire life for the rest

1268
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 2: of his life. He wins and like the American person

1269
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 2: with no personality wins. You're like, sweet, you know you're

1270
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 2: another American that was successful. I don't know. There's times

1271
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 2: where I sometimes I'm like, I'm rooting for the other dog.

1272
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 2: I really like the underdog.

1273
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: That's a good point, because like a gold medal at

1274
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,959
Speaker 1: a small in a small country is so much more

1275
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: significant than a gold medal in the US, because we

1276
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: get like one hundred gold medalists per Olympics every Olympics.

1277
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 2: Yes, and there's three that. There's three Olympians every time

1278
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 2: that are like the ones that make the wheaties box.

1279
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 2: And then other than that, you're like, oh, that American

1280
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 2: team won the losee awesome. Sweet, And then you change

1281
01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 2: the channel and you have no idea who the names were,

1282
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 2: you know. For the most part, that's kind of my

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01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 2: Molinari thing when so many people were bummed out on

1284
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,360
Speaker 2: social media because Tiger didn't win the British and I

1285
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 2: was like, yo, this guy is the first player from

1286
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 2: Italy ever to win a major like this is unbelievable

1287
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 2: for their country and for golf there for the next

1288
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 2: two hundred years. And we're like, well, a tired didn't

1289
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 2: get fifteen, not.

1290
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: To mention the manner he did it in, like Tiger

1291
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: made the charge. Like I remember I tweeted something and

1292
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: like it was like on whole seven. I was like,

1293
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: I think Molinari is the only guy that can ruin

1294
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,720
Speaker 1: this for us, you know, and like so many people.

1295
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 5: Were like, oh what about Rory?

1296
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 1: What about Like you could just see Molinari just was

1297
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: playing perfect golf, you know, like he he won because

1298
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: he just outplayed everybody else.

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Speaker 5: That's the thing.

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's silly. But no, I I I'm really

1301
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 2: excited about the Ryder Cup. I'm really excited to see

1302
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 2: what transpires. And my hope to all hopes is that

1303
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 2: it's not a complete blowout because we don't get these

1304
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 2: things much. We don't get these things a professional golf

1305
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 2: that like peak everybody's interests much.

1306
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 5: You know, mm hmm yeah.

1307
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 1: I think the other thing, I'm excited to see French

1308
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: fans like what, what's the French golf turnout gonna be?

1309
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: Like what are are they gonna be polite? Are they

1310
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: gonna be really rude? Like are we gonna get like

1311
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: Baye by Bui and French?

1312
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 2: Oh? I wonder what it is have you Google translated?

1313
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 5: No, no, I just thought of this.

1314
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,080
Speaker 2: We should figure we should figure this out.

1315
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 1: We should actually is Victor Duboissan gonna just run out

1316
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 1: onto the course?

1317
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 2: I should have made it is there's gotta be a

1318
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 2: phrase that French golfers yell, and we should figure out

1319
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 2: what that is.

1320
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, I get some T shirts. You know.

1321
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 1: That's we were walking around with it all in Chicago

1322
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 1: and end of September.

1323
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 2: I love it. He's a great business idea.

1324
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: So hey, uh, the two are we we're talking about

1325
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: all these young guys earlier? What's going to happen as

1326
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: this trend. I don't think it's slowing down. I think

1327
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 1: you agree it's not. So it's just going to get younger,

1328
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: right right? What happens to all the forty year olds?

1329
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,880
Speaker 2: I think the Champions Tour my move to forty five.

1330
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 2: And this is without any inside information, I could see

1331
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 2: it going to forty five.

1332
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 4: Uh.

1333
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 1: One of my contributors wrote this article that I'm in

1334
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 1: post soon and it's like the median age has dropped

1335
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: four years in the last you know, twenty years of

1336
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:12,840
Speaker 1: pro golfers.

1337
01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I wrote and this was this was

1338
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,439
Speaker 2: when I wrote This was probably three or four years ago,

1339
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 2: four or five years ago, and I wrote, I did

1340
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 2: the math for like the last ten Majors, and the

1341
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 2: average age of major win it was thirty three. And

1342
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 2: that's obviously not the case now, you know, I mean

1343
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 2: Koepka and Speed and JT and these guys, like you're

1344
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 2: going to see a teenager win a major soon, You're

1345
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 2: gonna see I mean, like an eighteen year old. I mean,

1346
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 2: you know, we talked about Niemen. I mean, he could

1347
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 2: win a major and nobody would bad an eye at all.

1348
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 2: But I don't know. I mean, I it's you know,

1349
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 2: what's funny is funny you asked this question. I was

1350
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 2: the US Amateur and then I'm reading the match and

1351
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 2: I'm I'm got this. I'm like super in on amateur

1352
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 2: golf right now. Like I'm like, I'm like, it's high

1353
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 2: on the cloud of amber golf I've ever been in

1354
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 2: my life. And I was thinking about it. I was like,

1355
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 2: I'm going to really start to try to work on

1356
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 2: my game, and I want to like start playing in

1357
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 2: these amateur events, like I want to play, but not

1358
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 2: just the USA Amateur and the mid am I want

1359
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 2: to play in these other amateur events too, And then

1360
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 2: I was like thoughts to at I'm like, I'm thirty four,

1361
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 2: Like these guys are like seventeen. Like I can't play

1362
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 2: against these guys.

1363
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 1: You gotta get on the cocktail circuit, man, you gotta

1364
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 1: get in the mid am circuit.

1365
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 2: No, I know, but I was thinking to myself, I

1366
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 2: was like, this is this is an unrealistic thing for

1367
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 2: me to think about, you know, like we never at

1368
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 2: the US Amateur ever ever see somebody thirty four in

1369
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 2: the in the quarterfinals.

1370
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 1: But that's the shame is there used to be like

1371
01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 1: Nathan Smith and Mike McCoy.

1372
01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:46,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Buddy Marucci played Tiger in nineteen ninety

1373
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 2: five and.

1374
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 1: The finals and then he made it the semi finals

1375
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 1: the next year.

1376
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's unbelievable. These these like lifelong amateur

1377
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 2: Stuart Hagistead makes it to around the thirty two and

1378
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:58,800
Speaker 2: it's like this story.

1379
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's twenty eight, you know, yeah, like twenty eight.

1380
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 2: It's like a miracle.

1381
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 1: And I don't even think he's twenty. I think he's

1382
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 1: like twenty seven, twenty Yeah, he probably is twenty eight.

1383
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 2: You're probably right, I think I remember it from our

1384
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 2: bio sheets. I'm sure he'll text me if I'm wrong

1385
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 2: on this.

1386
01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: I know he will touch both of us.

1387
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 2: But yes, it's it's just yeah, I mean, it's it's crazy.

1388
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 2: So I have a question, and this is the one

1389
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 2: thing I don't really get. Why are they so much better?

1390
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 2: Why are these young kids so much better at golf?

1391
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: I have this theory like me and you we grew

1392
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: up with. I mean, what was your first set of clubs,

1393
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,800
Speaker 1: Like mine was like Tommy Armor eight forty fives and

1394
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 1: I remember playing like Slavesinger Golf Boss.

1395
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was my first full set of adult clubs

1396
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 2: were top flight magnas.

1397
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 5: I remember the Yeah.

1398
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 2: The globe in the middle of the ball that would

1399
01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 2: actually imprint on a belt if you hit it solidly.

1400
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 2: And so there was a globe in the middle of

1401
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:02,920
Speaker 2: the ball where your group were supposed to be. This

1402
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 2: is just approach to interesting approach to the sweet spot

1403
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 2: there top light and.

1404
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,120
Speaker 1: How far did you hit it when you were like fourteen,

1405
01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 1: when you got into high school. Nowhere, this is a

1406
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 1: different like we did nowhere.

1407
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 5: We had these.

1408
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 1: Balls that didn't go anywhere, they went like they sliced

1409
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 1: like crap, like you know, you could hit a big slice,

1410
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:29,120
Speaker 1: seventy yard slice and they went nowhere and it was

1411
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 1: like it was like you know pro. The other thing

1412
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 1: was like instructors would just guess, you know you're gonna

1413
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 1: love these, yeah, and they'd be like, oh, like you

1414
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 1: know you need to do this with your swing, like

1415
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 1: there was no numbers behind. Like I just think that

1416
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 1: we live in this era where like you literally can't

1417
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 1: miss right, Like I swing so hard at the ball

1418
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 1: now compared to the way I used to swing right, like.

1419
01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 2: You had to manufacture golf shots. And you know what's

1420
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 2: funny is, dude, like I was watching the ninety nine

1421
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 2: Ryder Cup the other day and Miguel Jmenez hits this

1422
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 2: foul ball during play that's fifty yards left of everything

1423
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 2: and it went about knee high. And then I always

1424
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 2: think about stuff like Palmer and Norman on eighteen at

1425
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 2: the Masters hitting these shots thirty yards right of the green.

1426
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 2: It's like nobody does that. Like Jordan Speed hit that

1427
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 2: shot when he won the Masters on eighteen on Saturday,

1428
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,000
Speaker 2: and it was like fifteen yards over the green and

1429
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 2: that was like the worst shot he hit all week.

1430
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 5: It's fascinating.

1431
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, the foul balls don't exist anymore as much, Like

1432
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 1: you know, like you can neck the crap out of

1433
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 1: a driver today and it just like goes straight and

1434
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 1: if it's firm and fast, it'll roll like forever.

1435
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 2: I mean, Rory won the PGA doing that with his

1436
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 2: three wood. Yeah, he necked that shot on ten and

1437
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 2: it rolled up there like twelve feet for eagle. I

1438
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 2: was like, that wasn't a good golf shot, but it

1439
01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 2: turned out okay.

1440
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 5: So he is is that?

1441
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 1: Like I like, I grew up with this, Like DJ's

1442
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 1: the only good golfer in our age bracket, like great golfer,

1443
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 1: Like he's the only one. Everyone else is younger or older,

1444
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 1: like justin rose age, which is like thirty eight thirty nine.

1445
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 5: Like there's this gap of people that we.

1446
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 1: Like when we were in college and the pro V

1447
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:26,960
Speaker 1: one like was really hitting the prime and technology was developing,

1448
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 1: the high school kids were better than us.

1449
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:34,040
Speaker 2: I mean, so you're saying that we had to live

1450
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 2: through the transition time between yeah, like the wound and

1451
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 2: the new age ball, and because of that, we lost

1452
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 2: like two years of knowing how to play, Like.

1453
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 1: We essentially just were worse because we had to, like

1454
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 1: we had to like learn a new golf swing. Like

1455
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 1: my golf swing today is so much different. Like you know,

1456
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 1: like all you do is hit up on the ball

1457
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 1: with a driver, try to. I just try to and

1458
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:00,920
Speaker 1: it goes you know, take saw the spinoff and the

1459
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:03,519
Speaker 1: ball goes really far and straight, and it's like the

1460
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 1: golf swing. These kids just learned, like they know they

1461
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 1: don't know what a miss is.

1462
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 2: That it's never missed the ball, and they know exactly

1463
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 2: what everything goes. I mean again, like this is kids

1464
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 2: of privilege. Like if you're a kid that like can

1465
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 2: go to these instructors and go to these places where

1466
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 2: they'll show you this stuff. Like you know, like I

1467
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 2: still don't know how far I hit an eight iron, no, like,

1468
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 2: but these kids know exactly how far they hit an

1469
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:27,160
Speaker 2: eight iron.

1470
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 1: The other thing is when we were in high school,

1471
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 1: we played all these different sports, Like these kids play

1472
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 1: one sport now, right, it's all specialized.

1473
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 2: It's yeah, I mean, it's it. I just I find it.

1474
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 2: I find it massively fascinating to me that I understand

1475
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:50,000
Speaker 2: that golf is younger. I have a hard time understanding

1476
01:09:50,040 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 2: why they're so much better. And this is this is

1477
01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 2: this is some good points because I think about that

1478
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,920
Speaker 2: a lot, like like why were these other people able

1479
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 2: to compete? And why can't there be a third five

1480
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:02,479
Speaker 2: year old that competes at the US Amber? And I

1481
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,599
Speaker 2: always want every single year I have this hope. I'm like,

1482
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 2: this year is gonna be the year. You know, this

1483
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 2: year there's gonna be a thirty four year old guy

1484
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 2: that comes out here and play some great golf and

1485
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 2: wins a couple of matches and he's in the semifinals.

1486
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 2: And we're like, here's this thirty five year old that's

1487
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 2: you know, that has a he has an accounting gig

1488
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 2: for KPMG, and you know he played golf at Tallahassee

1489
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 2: State and that's never happened.

1490
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 5: See they that's the case.

1491
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,799
Speaker 1: They should just you know, give give me an auto

1492
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 1: berth into the sweet sixteenth, you know, just make somebody flourish,

1493
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 1: somebody into the sweet sixteen.

1494
01:10:39,160 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 2: You wouldn't make our TV window if you lose nine

1495
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:41,599
Speaker 2: to eight.

1496
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 6: To know, that's the they figure out early.

1497
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 2: They're like, well he didn't make the window.

1498
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 1: Hey maybe it's they don't get it. You don't get

1499
01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 1: a warm up, you know, no, no warm up. You

1500
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 1: got to play like a true midam. Put your shoes

1501
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:59,440
Speaker 1: on and go to walk to the first d bruce les.

1502
01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 2: No locker. I like this, Actually, I think this is

1503
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 2: what the mid am should do. The midam should approach

1504
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 2: it exactly like we really do play golf, like oh,

1505
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:09,479
Speaker 2: oh you wanna you want to you want to arrange,

1506
01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:12,719
Speaker 2: you want a bucket, arrange balls. Here's here's twelve balls

1507
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 2: that have stripes on them and they fly this distance.

1508
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:20,719
Speaker 1: Maybe it's uh, I don't know, it's it's funny. I uh,

1509
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 1: I think that that would be that would work. I

1510
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 1: had like a weird golf thing the other day where

1511
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: you had.

1512
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 2: Something weird about golf. I can't believe, No, I bet

1513
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 2: weird theory.

1514
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 1: I had this realization like I've I've played less golf

1515
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:38,719
Speaker 1: this year than any year in my my like last ten.

1516
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 2: Same same personally, same exact thing.

1517
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,360
Speaker 1: So like now when I play, I go out and

1518
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:46,759
Speaker 1: I like literally just like play for myself to scrape

1519
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 1: the ball round. So I like just hid into the

1520
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 1: centers of greens right and like I swung really well

1521
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 1: on like the fourth hole, and I realized, like, oh

1522
01:11:57,080 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 1: I got full control today, I can like really do

1523
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 1: whatever I want like I can hit shots like it's

1524
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:04,760
Speaker 1: like I've you know, it's like the one time of

1525
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:08,120
Speaker 1: year that I'll have this, you know. And then this

1526
01:12:08,200 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 1: course just ejected me because I was playing aggressive instead

1527
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 1: of just my my straight to the middle.

1528
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:18,679
Speaker 2: There's nothing better for people like you and I, who again,

1529
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 2: you and I get to play more golf than most people.

1530
01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 2: But like a thirty four year old buddy mine, like,

1531
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 2: there's nothing better than when you go out with them

1532
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 2: and they haven't played in two months or three months,

1533
01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,240
Speaker 2: and you see, like on the seventh green they hit

1534
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,639
Speaker 2: a shot and you can almost see in their face

1535
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 2: like they kind of figured it out again, you know,

1536
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 2: and then for like three or four holes they hit

1537
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 2: it pretty good, and then of course it goes away.

1538
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 2: But I always love that like moment of realization where

1539
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 2: you're like kind of holding the club and you're like, oh,

1540
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 2: you know, I think I got it. I went on

1541
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 2: to Stretch a couple of years ago where I was

1542
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 2: playing some of the best golf of my life, and

1543
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 2: my only swing thought was get it all the way

1544
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 2: to the top for like two months, and I hit

1545
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 2: a great and then of course I stopped thinking like

1546
01:12:58,240 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 2: that and started hitting like a dog.

1547
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 5: It's funny.

1548
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 1: I I sing the song comfortably numb when I before,

1549
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 1: I told me it's it's it's been a it's been

1550
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 1: an unbelievable, like awakening experience. It's it's to actually help

1551
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 1: my golf game quite a bit. But like I'm always

1552
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 1: so relaxed when I.

1553
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 5: Hit the golf ball. It's like this comfort thing. I

1554
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 5: don't know.

1555
01:13:20,840 --> 01:13:24,160
Speaker 1: Golf is just it's all mental. The less I play,

1556
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 1: the better I get.

1557
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 6: I think.

1558
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:30,839
Speaker 2: I'm I'm absolutely the same way. If I play minimal

1559
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 2: amounts of golf, I play fifty times better. And that's

1560
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 2: just kind of how it is, you know, I mean

1561
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 2: just I don't really know what else, what else to

1562
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 2: say about it. I think that means we're probably pretty psycho.

1563
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:41,680
Speaker 4: You know.

1564
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that means we get in our own way, way, way,

1565
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:49,440
Speaker 1: way too much on the golf course, all right, overrated

1566
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:52,679
Speaker 1: under a you're right, yeah, yeah, let's go desert golf

1567
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 1: is from a bunch of people.

1568
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,640
Speaker 2: I would say it's uh. I mean, I living out

1569
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 2: in Arizona, I would say overrated for the golf. It's

1570
01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:05,680
Speaker 2: it's underrated for the pictures because it's very beautiful. But

1571
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 2: I don't personally love desert golf. I'd rather play any

1572
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:09,679
Speaker 2: other type.

1573
01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't.

1574
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 1: I've only been to Arizona once.

1575
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 5: I got this year.

1576
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:16,520
Speaker 1: Come out.

1577
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 2: Give you The problem is if you come out, we'll

1578
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 2: play Phoenix Country Club, which is going to be not desert.

1579
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:24,200
Speaker 2: We'll probably play Pinnacle Peak, which will be not desert.

1580
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 2: We'll play like three of these courses and like you

1581
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 2: won't have seen a heel of Monster yet. You'll be like,

1582
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 2: what's happening here before I'll take you to, you know,

1583
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 2: But like, like I go play Weikopas Sworrow and I

1584
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 2: have a great time because it's it's more playable, it's

1585
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 2: a little bit wider. Fair Ways, they cleared three or

1586
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 2: four yards off the rough, excuse me, off the desert.

1587
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 2: When you miss it and you can actually find your ball,

1588
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 2: you might not be able to play it, but at

1589
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 2: least you could find your ball and throw back in

1590
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:53,960
Speaker 2: kind of as a lazy lateral. And and yeah, that's

1591
01:14:54,000 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 2: a by the way, the golf rules are a thing

1592
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 2: you asked me. One thing I would say is for

1593
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:00,599
Speaker 2: everybody not playing in a tournament there's a lout of bounds,

1594
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 2: just drop it that you can't find your ball to

1595
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 2: drop it.

1596
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 1: The lazy lateral is the best, like full time leaf

1597
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:07,879
Speaker 1: rule if you're not playing in a tournament.

1598
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely so, I said. One time I said something

1599
01:15:12,040 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 2: on social media a couple like a year or two

1600
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,400
Speaker 2: ago about like pick up, you know, drop your ball

1601
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 2: or something. I had a whole bunch of like super

1602
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 2: serious golf people like that's not the rules, and I

1603
01:15:20,160 --> 01:15:21,400
Speaker 2: was like, well, then I don't want to play golf

1604
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:22,640
Speaker 2: with you, like I mean, I don't want you to

1605
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 2: be out there grinding your tail off if we've got

1606
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:27,679
Speaker 2: four hours to get around on a Thursday afternoon. Anyway,

1607
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 2: Sorry that that was a tangent.

1608
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 1: We can go, okay, Yeah, the rules are overrated, Yes, exactly,

1609
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:39,440
Speaker 1: all right, Alex war eighteen whole USGA qualifiers.

1610
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 2: So that's what he asked, eighteen whole USCA.

1611
01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 6: Qualifiers overrated, underrated.

1612
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 2: I would say, I would say underrated. I think thirty

1613
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:49,839
Speaker 2: six is too much just to eighteen.

1614
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 6: I hate eighteen.

1615
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 1: You like thirty six, Well, I just I just think

1616
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:58,200
Speaker 1: that it's all a chance at eighteen, you know, like

1617
01:15:58,479 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 1: here the thing I always I I like that playing.

1618
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 2: Good for me. I want the chance. I don't want

1619
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:04,360
Speaker 2: to have to go back out in the afternoon if

1620
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 2: I actually play a good round.

1621
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 1: My my favorite turn of the year that I actually

1622
01:16:08,439 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 1: play in usually is like the state am I haven't

1623
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 1: I didn't play this year because I just don't have

1624
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 1: the time. But is I like it because like the

1625
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I have to, like, you know,

1626
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 1: like if I make a six, I'm okay, you know,

1627
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, like I got all this time, I

1628
01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 1: got time to work it like you're building like a

1629
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 1: foundation of the house instead of like just like it's

1630
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 1: just a sprint, you know.

1631
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 5: But I don't like.

1632
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 2: Golf game, so I prefer anything on the shorter end.

1633
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:49,919
Speaker 5: All right. Next, next one, your hat collection, I would.

1634
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 2: Say, probably overrated. I Uh, I have a I have

1635
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 2: a lot of really good golf hats. I also have

1636
01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 2: a lot of really not great golf hats. And I

1637
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 2: also in my collection have an assortment of non golf hats.

1638
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 2: But how do you have I've probably got fifty awesome

1639
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:11,840
Speaker 2: golf hats.

1640
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:16,800
Speaker 1: What's your what's your storage situation. I've got a little

1641
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 1: problem right now. My wife's been on my ass about it.

1642
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I have this is kind of funny. I

1643
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,840
Speaker 2: have like where I do my podcast from It's a

1644
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:29,640
Speaker 2: room in our house that's my golf room. So this

1645
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 2: is a room of just golf shit, clubs, hats, shoes,

1646
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:39,080
Speaker 2: and then my little podcast studios in there. The closet

1647
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 2: has jackets and golf balls and all that crap. So

1648
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 2: she doesn't go in I mean, my wife doesn't go

1649
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 2: in there. I mean she doesn't open the door. It's

1650
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 2: like that closet and friends that Monica had locked Like,

1651
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 2: she will not go in that room to save a life,

1652
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 2: because she knows that it's just my just over obsessive, stupid,

1653
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 2: overflowed hats, and she prefer not to go in there

1654
01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 2: and see it because she's very, very clean and organized.

1655
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:06,000
Speaker 2: So that's the good thing is I can keep it

1656
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 2: kind of off eyes for most people.

1657
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 1: All Right, that's I need to I need a golf room.

1658
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:15,559
Speaker 1: I need to get one more room and or play built.

1659
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 2: You build on a golf room. Your wife's like leaves you.

1660
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:19,479
Speaker 2: She's like, no, we're not doing this.

1661
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think she would let me do it

1662
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 1: either way. It would still have to be spect out

1663
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:28,720
Speaker 1: to her her aesthetics. All Right, I'm hoping you can

1664
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 1: give me a good answer here it's failed miserably every

1665
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 1: time I ask this any sort of music question, overrated, underrated,

1666
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:38,759
Speaker 1: We're gonna go with Tom Petty.

1667
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:44,480
Speaker 2: Oh man, I think I'm gonna go overrated?

1668
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:46,679
Speaker 1: Interesting?

1669
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 2: What would you go?

1670
01:18:48,439 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 5: I don't know, That's why I asked. I asked the

1671
01:18:51,360 --> 01:18:51,880
Speaker 5: question to you.

1672
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 2: I would say that Tom Petty has for the general

1673
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 2: public these songs that people know. Is that would that

1674
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 2: be fair?

1675
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 5: Yeah? Like Last Dance? I mean there.

1676
01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:11,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got probably three Learning to Fly American Girl. Yeah,

1677
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 1: probably three may four.

1678
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:17,280
Speaker 2: Three songs that people know, and then most of his

1679
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 2: good stuff is the things nobody knows. I always kind

1680
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:22,320
Speaker 2: of think about music like this. If I want to

1681
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:25,240
Speaker 2: listen to music by myself, then I can listen to

1682
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 2: whatever I want. But if I'm going to like put

1683
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 2: a record on or something and it's Tom Petty, I'm

1684
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 2: gonna be told to change it. Probably within ten minutes

1685
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 2: of people being like at my house, they'll be like,

1686
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 2: can we put something else on? So sorry, Tom Petty?

1687
01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 1: And see I disagree. I think you could listen to Tom

1688
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 1: Petty any kind of mood. You could be hanging out,

1689
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:47,639
Speaker 1: maybe not partying.

1690
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:48,640
Speaker 5: That's it.

1691
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 1: There are certain songs like that that electric feel you

1692
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 1: know that song mg like, like you could listen to

1693
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:58,639
Speaker 1: that song in any setting, Like you know, I could

1694
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:00,080
Speaker 1: start to like he.

1695
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:04,320
Speaker 2: Just compared Tom Petty, what is the MGMT?

1696
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, well you could listen like I could replace comfortably

1697
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 1: Numb with that song and I'd be fine. But you

1698
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 1: could be out at like the bar, like partying, and

1699
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 1: that song comes on and you just like everybody starts.

1700
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 5: Beating their head to it.

1701
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:24,559
Speaker 1: You're right, Tom Petty has a lot of versatility, so

1702
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 1: he's underrated, Okay, Like you can't put led to that

1703
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 1: point on No, you know that's like you gotta be

1704
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 1: there's certain bands you gotta be in the right mood.

1705
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 5: And this is so what is your music?

1706
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:37,600
Speaker 4: Like?

1707
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 2: What's your go to music on the golf course?

1708
01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 5: Depend?

1709
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:45,639
Speaker 1: It all depends on what my mood's then lately, sometimes

1710
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 1: you know, I can listen to all genres of music.

1711
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:51,240
Speaker 2: I have a rule on music on a golf course.

1712
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 2: I always tell people, like if I'm writing a cart,

1713
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:58,080
Speaker 2: like if I'm playing in something with a cart, I

1714
01:20:58,160 --> 01:21:01,599
Speaker 2: always tell whoever's riding with me they can pick the artist,

1715
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:03,960
Speaker 2: Like I'm like, you pick the artist and I'll put

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01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 2: the music on, so I allow the person that's with

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01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 2: me to have the music choice so they're comfortable because

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01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 2: I'll listen to anything. Yeah, but I've basically completely moved

1719
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 2: away from any sort of hip hop or rap on

1720
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 2: the golf course because it's just a little too inappropriate

1721
01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 2: in case you run into somebody on another hole. I

1722
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:26,720
Speaker 2: always say having to turn the music down because I'm

1723
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 2: nervous they're going to say word the person would be comfortable.

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01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:32,600
Speaker 1: Hearing, Yeah, I would agree with that. I you know,

1725
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 1: I could do country. I could do classic rock, classic rocks,

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01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:38,679
Speaker 1: like usually what if I was going to put music

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01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:41,720
Speaker 1: on on the course, I would put a classic rock on, Like.

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01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 2: Are you not a music on the golf course?

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01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 4: Guy?

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01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:44,760
Speaker 5: I know I am.

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01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 1: I had like the speaker, I lost it. Though it

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01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 1: all depends. I like listen, Like, if I'm playing by myself,

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01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:53,519
Speaker 1: I'll listen to music for sure, you know, Like it

1734
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 1: all depends, it's all circumstantial. I like love listening to music.

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01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 1: I'm a huge music fan. I love golf like two

1736
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 1: of my favorite things. One of my most memorable rounds

1737
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 1: of golf in my life ever happened the one time

1738
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:10,639
Speaker 1: I was in Arizona and It was that Talking Stick.

1739
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 1: They had that music festival going on at Talking Stick.

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01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 2: You know that thing you could Yeah, and you could.

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01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:17,920
Speaker 2: You could just hear all the music the whole round.

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01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:18,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was playing.

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01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:21,679
Speaker 1: It was like suns the sun was coming coming down,

1744
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 1: and I was listening to like a band that I

1745
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 1: really liked, and they were playing there. I was listening

1746
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,120
Speaker 1: to them play their concert while I was playing Talking Stick.

1747
01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:31,880
Speaker 1: It was like a spiritual experience.

1748
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 2: There's a I did that and we we had that

1749
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:40,160
Speaker 2: in New Orleans. They say that there's au it's the

1750
01:22:40,240 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 2: golf course. They say when the music festival, the big

1751
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 2: music festal comes to New Orleans, which I mean there's

1752
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 2: probably a music festival every week, but they say there's

1753
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:50,160
Speaker 2: a course there that you park. No, it's not Audubond

1754
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 2: because it's right there in the middle. It's one of

1755
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:53,200
Speaker 2: the ones outside that actually got watched that I was

1756
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 2: probably in the name of it. But they said that

1757
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 2: it you can hear the music clearly the entire round

1758
01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 2: of golf, And I was like, that sounds like something

1759
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:01,800
Speaker 2: I'd be very interested in being a part of.

1760
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 1: There should be a golf course that has like a

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01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:07,080
Speaker 1: music festival on it.

1762
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, just in the middle of it.

1763
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:11,280
Speaker 1: While you play Yeah.

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01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:12,599
Speaker 5: That would be sick.

1765
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 2: I'd pay three hundred for that ticket.

1766
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:16,120
Speaker 5: That'd be so cool.

1767
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 2: Why don't we have this, Why don't we organize this?

1768
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 2: Just get like three bands.

1769
01:23:22,479 --> 01:23:24,559
Speaker 1: Yeah irations, We'll get Mike iration.

1770
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 2: This could be our golf event. Is we just like

1771
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 2: we have three bands that are just going to be

1772
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 2: playing music all day and you play your.

1773
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 1: Yeah with the yeah and you just find a course

1774
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 1: that's got like a big open space in the middle

1775
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 1: of it.

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01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:40,800
Speaker 2: I mean, I think this is I think you're on.

1777
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 1: The Sunday just solved, you know, big best golf event

1778
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 1: of the year. All Right, I'm gonna let you go.

1779
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:49,719
Speaker 1: We've we've talked for way too long, and I hope

1780
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 1: that some poor soul isn't listening at this point.

1781
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 2: Your yours tend to go along, but I can. I

1782
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 2: can stick around for a good amount of them. A

1783
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 2: pleasure I always I always love getting a chance to

1784
01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 2: chat with you. I, uh, what do you got anything

1785
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 2: coming up? I'm doing PJ Tour Live. I've got a

1786
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 2: golf trip to Michigan with three buddies. At where we go,

1787
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 2: We're gonna do the loop. We're gonna do.

1788
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:14,599
Speaker 3: Uh.

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01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:17,560
Speaker 2: I don't really know, honestly, can't tell you this. I

1790
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:19,640
Speaker 2: don't really know what my itinerary is.

1791
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 5: I'm sick.

1792
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 2: But uh what it's like three of my best friends

1793
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 2: and myself are going up there and uh, and we're

1794
01:24:29,439 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 2: gonna do. Uh, we're gonna do. I think we're doing

1795
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 2: four or five days of golf or we Is there

1796
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:33,639
Speaker 2: place that we need to play?

1797
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 1: You should try and try and play Belvidere and Charlotte's Boy.

1798
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 2: Is it awesome?

1799
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's under the radar, semi private, but they allow public.

1800
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 2: It's called Belvidere.

1801
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 5: It's a Willie Watton. Yeah, it's a Willie Watton. Of course.

1802
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 2: Let me tell you. Let me tell you what. I'm

1803
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:53,640
Speaker 2: gonna tell you what we're playing right now, so you

1804
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 2: can tell me if it's if we're doing it right.

1805
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:56,679
Speaker 2: Have you played Bay Harbor?

1806
01:24:57,240 --> 01:24:57,679
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1807
01:24:58,080 --> 01:24:58,639
Speaker 2: Do you like it?

1808
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 5: It's cool? I mean it's like right on the water play.

1809
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 2: I'm playing Belvidere.

1810
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 1: Belvedere's on there. Yeah, unbelievable. In press, I'm playing the

1811
01:25:08,160 --> 01:25:10,720
Speaker 1: Loop and Forest Dunes probably too.

1812
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 2: I'm playing Forest Dunes. I'm playing Boyne Highlands.

1813
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 5: All right. I played a j g a there back

1814
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 5: in the.

1815
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:18,799
Speaker 2: Y in Kingsley Club.

1816
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 1: Oh, Kingsley Club's awesome. That's where I got ejected when

1817
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:24,000
Speaker 1: I started hitting the ball. Good because I started going

1818
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 1: at two many flags. That place is cool.

1819
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 2: So that's a good It's a good lineup. Are you

1820
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:28,960
Speaker 2: excited about it?

1821
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:30,599
Speaker 5: Grade lineup? Yeah? You got.

1822
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to go to Texas because I've had

1823
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 2: I've had more people from my hometown in a day

1824
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:41,080
Speaker 2: of Twitter interaction send me stuff than in almost any

1825
01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:43,679
Speaker 2: time in my career. You really to come. We're gonna

1826
01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 2: play here. You should play here. Have you been here?

1827
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:47,679
Speaker 2: Have you thought about this place? Yeah?

1828
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 5: I know.

1829
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 1: We gotta do the We gotta do the the. I

1830
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:56,440
Speaker 1: can't even remember what I called it. Exploration, explorations, explorations.

1831
01:25:56,640 --> 01:25:59,599
Speaker 2: We'll do Pine Dunes, Texa. Kinney Country Club, Well, I'll

1832
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:01,680
Speaker 2: take it Marshall Lakeside Country Club, which is where I

1833
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 2: grew up as a nine hole course. I would love

1834
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 2: to hear your architectural uh talk on it, and then

1835
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:10,719
Speaker 2: we'll go. I'll take you to this place in Shreveport,

1836
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 2: Louisiana called Herbie Kay's for dinner and they have this

1837
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 2: scene called the Shrimp buster that's pounded fried shrimp and

1838
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:24,679
Speaker 2: a huge cold beer and to f and then we'll

1839
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 2: maybe we'll play Southern Trace and we'll go play Dallas.

1840
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, just got a block a week off.

1841
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 2: I've already got people. I've already My dad, who you've met,

1842
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:36,600
Speaker 2: is in. He's all excited.

1843
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 5: Already, Porter wants in.

1844
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 2: Porter's gonna be in. Co's got like thirteen kids. I'm

1845
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 2: not if he can make it, but I love if

1846
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:44,679
Speaker 2: he does.

1847
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 5: He can't make it, you know, he's scarce. We got it.

1848
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:51,400
Speaker 1: We'd have to get an Okla, Oklahoma state legend to

1849
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:52,720
Speaker 1: join and then he would be there.

1850
01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. You know what we'll get, h We'll get

1851
01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:58,559
Speaker 2: our boy. We'll get Victor, a couple.

1852
01:26:58,320 --> 01:26:59,640
Speaker 5: Of victor or.

1853
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:03,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, just some someone we gotta get someway from.

1854
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 5: I remember he was.

1855
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:06,840
Speaker 1: Doing a podcast with Tony Allen. When I saw him

1856
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 1: at training Forest, I was talking to It's like, I

1857
01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 1: gotta put Tony Allen coming on with Tony Allen. It's

1858
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:15,799
Speaker 1: a Chicago guy, but he's Oklahoma state legend.

1859
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it. Well, thanks for having

1860
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:19,040
Speaker 2: me on