1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast featuring NFL Networks Greg. Welcome 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast 3 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: starring Greg Rosenthal. This is Dan hansis joined by room 4 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: filled with some heroes, Mark Sessler and yes, the twice 5 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: uh mentioned Greg Rosenthal, who Yes, some people say NFL network, 6 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: some people, Sully still say NFL dot com. Let's be honest, 7 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: thank you very much. Here with NFL dot com is 8 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal dot com dot com dot com. That is 9 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 1: that is an all time right. I was talking to 10 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: my friend Bob at a Hey, I have a friend 11 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: named Bob, and one of you is lying, and he 12 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: said when he first heard, I believe it was that drop, 13 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: or it might have been the drop where it was 14 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: kind of the Australian guy doing doing an NFL. He 15 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: he was laughing so hard in in bed like it 16 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: disrupted his wife's sleep and she was like, what is 17 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: happening here? Why are you? And he had to rewind 18 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: it many times to listen to it. That drop is 19 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: a a couple of months old now, but Mark, I 20 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: remember you and I going into Uh, this is not 21 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: not gonna sound very masculine. Don't don't be ashamed. Of 22 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: me that where are we going? We want to get 23 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: our makeup done? Uh, you know. Across the way and 24 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: in the makeup room was Amber Theo Harris, who gives 25 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: the vocal on that sound drop, and she had been 26 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: getting blown up on Twitter inter mentions like wait, do 27 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: you guys making fun of me on your podcast? No? 28 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: No, no no, no no. We had to explain what was 29 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: behind it. Kind of a tricky difficult thing to explain 30 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: to a person that doesn't have a lot of the 31 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: background info on how that came to bate. Yeah. I 32 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: think we we basically utterly confused her and and like 33 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: most interactions with uh you know our female coworkers run here, 34 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: were just left with our status lower, potentially to some degree. Yeah. 35 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: I think I think that's very fair to say. This 36 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: is the Wednesday edition of the Around the NFL podcast, 37 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 1: and um, Chris Wessing cannot be with us today. Hopefully 38 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: we'll have them back on Friday. But the show must 39 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: go on, um, and we have a lot to get 40 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 1: to today, including we are in the we're about to 41 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: hit the dark period, right, Greg, this is it? Thursday 42 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: thirty one teams wrapped it up the Cardinals. They decided 43 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: to get an extra week of vacation, Bruce arians smart. 44 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: They've been gone already for a week. The other thirty 45 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: one teams are done Thursday. Is it smart or here's 46 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: a perfect example of the segment today by seller Hold 47 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: on minicamp narratives. Is it's smart to take you extra 48 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: week or does it show a lack of commitment. It's 49 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: a good question. Hold. It also started a week earlier too. 50 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,839 Speaker 1: I'm selling that I'm smart. Get that, Get that, Bak. 51 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: I think it's what if you get a major injury 52 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: on Thursday? Was that worth it? Please know you guys 53 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: passed the test. That's a clear sell on the take. 54 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: By the way, we think all this news is gonna 55 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: come on Thursday, it's usually around by noon that you 56 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: realized that half of these coaches took their team bowling 57 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: like that last day is treated as a complete joke. 58 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: It's like hop Scotch Tournament ten am, and then everybody's 59 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: onto their jet skist Mike. Mike McCarthy said these are 60 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: the most important practices of of the off season, at 61 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: the same time that he gave the mini camp off 62 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: to all of his veteran players. I will sell that 63 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: storyline I'm selling that one too, all right, now, that's 64 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: coming up later today. Also, a lot of news to 65 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: get to, uh this maybe uh maybe for the last time, 66 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: a lot of news to get to as the NFL 67 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: does enter it's dark period, and that teases for something 68 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: we'll talk about on Friday. Uh. Some mysteries ahead in 69 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: the NFL. But for now, let it and Greg, we 70 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: will get to the thing that we didn't get to 71 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: on Monday. Just a little warning for you, okay, uh, 72 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: peace and love all with all respect, we gotta get 73 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: to it today. Alright, I'm here, all right, let's do 74 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: some news. Bradley is going to escape from Herrera Raley 75 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 1: trying to chip out your scores, Hichael Bradley, Okay, Sully 76 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: and I would love to hear from Sully on this 77 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: so good good choice of a news drop. So the 78 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: US and uh Mexico had a World Cup qualifying match 79 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: uh in Mexico City. Correct, correct, And Sully and we 80 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 1: were talking a little bit before the show with a 81 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 1: couple of his his buddies, including crowda right, yea, crowd ahead. 82 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: Uh you you bust down and put your life on 83 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: the line to attend this event. Attended by eighty four 84 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: thousand Mexicans. And when thousand Americans, uh separated by some 85 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,799 Speaker 1: barb wire? Can you tell a little story separated by 86 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: about I don't know about a hundred federales, a few 87 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: U S Marines and a bunch of barbed wire and uh, 88 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: separating the thousand US? Do you think that was necessary? 89 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: Or was it? Really was? It was? It was the 90 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: most intense atmosphere I've ever been in, for sure. So 91 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: did you get there? There were you guys getting glares 92 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: through the fence. What did you feel it was? It 93 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: was more than glare's I mean they're throwing stuff out us. 94 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: It was a constant you said you had like you 95 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: were getting doused by like not just beer, but unknown 96 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: liquids were flying it was gasoline sell Yeah, well you 97 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: saw some of these lighters flying by you as well. Um, 98 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: And I asked Sully, it is kind of a wild 99 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: sports event to attend and like that awesome one. It's 100 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: pretty cool that you went. But also it was part 101 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: of it, like Mark, some practices you're into. You like 102 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: the danger of it all, you know, Uh, you know, 103 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: you feel like it's about pleasure, but also sometimes the 104 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: idea that there could be pain you're into that makes 105 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: you feel more. I mean, I'll let you throw that 106 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: on me. I'm not sure what that's in reference to, 107 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: but probably probably for Sully. A big part of this 108 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 1: was the danger of it all that you're going to 109 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: support your your country's national team and also on some 110 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: level putting yourself in bodily danger. Very interesting. Yeah, I'm 111 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: sorry to report that Dan Dan Campbell came back and 112 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: Bill had to replace Bill Belichick of the around the 113 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: NFL producers. You, I think this earned you like more. 114 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: Although Dan Campbell wouldn't need barbed wire of anything, but 115 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: right down to you said, they took you the the 116 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: all the security presence, took you out of the stadium 117 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: into the safe house essentially, I mean from the hotel. Yeah, 118 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: if you're a Mexican listener of the show, um, reach 119 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: out to Sully and let him know that that not 120 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: everyone were l Tree fans were great, uh, the whole trip, 121 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: except for game day. Like there they take it quite seriously. 122 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: And we score and we scored a draw, which is 123 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: a very good thing, correct, very good thing. All right, 124 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: let's start with the news, and we'll start with Andrew 125 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: Luck who obviously not taking part in the mini camp 126 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: with the Cults and coming off shoulder surgery and his 127 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: throwing shoulder, there continues to be uncertainty about his availability. 128 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: Chuck Begano was asked uh this week on a timetable 129 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 1: for Luck, and much of the consternation of Cults Nation 130 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: is very clear there is none yet, no idea. My 131 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: guess is as good as yours, you know. And um, 132 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: you know he's going through the process. We know that 133 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: process can be you know long. Um, he's doing well. Um, 134 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: We're just gonna take it one day at a time, 135 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: you know, And the next step is getting to the 136 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: point where you know he can throw, you know, and 137 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: then there's gonna be you know, obviously a number and 138 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: a pitch count you know on that, and um, he's 139 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: gonna have to continue to build, um, you know, from 140 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: the ground floor up Mark Andrew Luck was asked about 141 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: his shoulder and he said they don't need to have 142 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: any concerns. It will be fine. Should there be concerns here. 143 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: I mean, you want your franchise quarterback to go through 144 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: an entire offseason healthy. You don't want surgeries, you don't 145 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: want to worry about pitch counts and all this business 146 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: when he's twenty seven years old. But at this point 147 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: in June, I mean, I don't think you get overly 148 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: where you want to just treat his body, that you 149 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: want to give him the perfect chance to heal and 150 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: not rush it. The the most mistake you could make 151 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: would be to get him out there and get him 152 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: active before he's ready. Yeah, but not so much right now. 153 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: The fact that they're not saying what you want to hear. 154 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: If your cults fan is, oh, he'll be ready for 155 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: training camp. We're easing him back now. But the fact 156 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: that they they're not ready to say that this is 157 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: a very serious situation makes you assume that he won't 158 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: be ready for the start of training camp. And and 159 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: they're definitely suiting for week one. And that just shows 160 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: you what a serious surgery he was, because he had 161 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: the surgery in the middle of January. And the fact 162 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: that he's not close, it doesn't sound like he's too 163 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: close to throw in yet. And when he's fully back, 164 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: like I just list, you know, reading between the lines, 165 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: and I've seen a lot of these over the years, 166 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: you might you wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't play 167 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: at all in the preseason. If the first game action 168 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: he sees is during the regular season, and and there 169 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: has to be at least some thought that that he 170 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 1: won't be ready for opening day. But we're just guessing. 171 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: That's what we do. Well, that's what we do. That's 172 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 1: part of the gig. In other quarterback news, franchise quarterbacks 173 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: with shoulder issues, Cam Newton won't be throwing at Panthers 174 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: minicamp after all. Just days after UM it was anticipated 175 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: by the team that he would be throwing at this camp. 176 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: Ron Rivera said that he quote got ahead of himself 177 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: by one week. Uh. This according to the team's official website. Uh. Nothing, 178 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: not a setback for Newton, according to Mike Garret Folo, 179 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: but Rivera just got a little little of ahead of himself. 180 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: He's still on track, So that's more a positive timetable 181 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: for your franchise quarterback. Expect Cam to be ready. I 182 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: would think of training camp. But we shall see. We 183 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,959 Speaker 1: shall see. What shows that the two surgeries were different, 184 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 1: even though significantly different, even though they were both shoulder surgeries. 185 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 1: Because Cam had his surgery three months after right Andrew Luck, 186 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: it was a twelve week recovery for him to be 187 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: throwing the ball again. So just you know, reading between 188 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: the lines, you can pretty much see that that the 189 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: luck surgery was more invasive. Well, and even if they 190 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: were the same, and they clearly weren't in this case, 191 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: you have no idea how two different human bodies are 192 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: going to respond to the same type of surgery. Moving 193 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: on in Cleveland Browns camp, there's a couple of things 194 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: going to burst up. Brock Osweiler. He is, of course 195 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: the quarterback that was acquired in a trade with the 196 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: Browns in that complex salary dump scenario. And guess what, 197 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: not only is he's still in the mix right now 198 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 1: for the Browns, He's gotten a lot of positive buzz 199 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 1: about how he's looked in the possibility that he actually 200 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: is going to be the starter coming out of Campbell 201 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: see how that works out. But he talked about his 202 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: chances and his ambition is uh for the Cleveland football franchise. 203 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: I want started seeing him and I'm working every single day, 204 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: um to put myself in a position to earn that 205 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: starting job. But um on, my focus isn't anywhere as 206 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: far as who's getting what reps. My My soul focus 207 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: is what can I do today? To be a better 208 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: player and have a good practice and make my keymates better. 209 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: It's kind of like a Penis ring doll answer for 210 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: a quarterback. He's been this guy from the minute any 211 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: of us heard any anything he had to say when 212 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: he was the Peyton Manning's backup. That he's very measured, Uh, 213 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: sort of an athlete quote speak machine. Uh, he's good 214 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: at that, And I am not really that concerned with 215 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,599 Speaker 1: how he looks. You know, in June minicamp practices and 216 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: previous O t A s that Osweiler's issues have always 217 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: been when you're on the field against an opponent who's 218 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: actually blitzing you and putting you into putting you into danger, 219 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: where is your decision making in your mechanics at that point. 220 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: I wish we had a if the was a TV show, 221 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: a split screen of when Brock is talking to Mark 222 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: rolling his eyes and shaking his head listening to Brock 223 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: now that he's on Team Sessler. I don't dislike the guy, 224 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: but there's a lot of baggage that obviously comes with 225 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: Brock Osweiler, and and one thing that has that I 226 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: find a little bit I promise you a bad for 227 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: him now acting him today. I was like, well, he's 228 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: here's what. He's making a ton of money still and 229 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: he has a legit opportunity. If you if there's two 230 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: or three teams on the league, in the league where 231 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: if your Brocks will you have a legit chance to 232 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: start games this season? This is one of them and 233 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: ended up being not a terrible landing spot. I just 234 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: think that when the trade happened, the presumption was he 235 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: won't even be on the roster, he won't even be 236 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: on the team by the time we get here, and 237 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: he still is well, and that's when the when the 238 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: trade happened, Um, the Browns of course got a lot 239 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: of positive press for making this move, and then it 240 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: even seemed even more kind of clever that then there 241 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: were the reports, oh, the Browns might not even want 242 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: them at all and they're gonna cut him. And I 243 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: remember at the time of the trade, I said it 244 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: on this podcasts like, I hope this doesn't end with 245 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: come the end of the summer, we're hearing reports about 246 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: how Brock is really he has a good chance of 247 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: parks because you know it's not gonna work out. Let's 248 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: just be honest, like we've been through this before. Jets 249 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 1: fans have been down this road. Browns fans have been 250 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: down this road that when you try to put this 251 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: type of around peg into the square hole, it's never 252 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: gonna fit. So it's seems to me like a waste 253 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: of time when you could have a guy like de 254 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: Shaan Kaiser, maybe get him more reps, get him right 255 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: in the mix maybe, or another developmental guy like Cody Kessler. 256 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: Jets have a similar situation with Josh McCown potentially starting. 257 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,199 Speaker 1: When you have two young kids on a going nowhere team. Uh, 258 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: I just brock as while they're starting games, especially week one. 259 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: I just feel like it sends a bad message to 260 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: the fan base. I don't think that there's any even 261 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: remote suggestion of a guarantee that that's going to happen. 262 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds like all we've heard this week 263 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: is that, and Hugh Jackson does not want to talk 264 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: about reps and where they're happening with the first or 265 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: second team. But Kaiser's being given a Russell Wilson like 266 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: chance to win the starting job. I think Kessler is 267 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: probably Kessler and Kaiser. You'd to imagine in both cases 268 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson had a lot of say in drafting those quarterbacks. 269 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: Oswila just landed on the roster in in a in 270 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: a bizarre front, and they never really replaced them. I 271 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: I and I've always wondered if they had, if they 272 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,080 Speaker 1: had conversations with the NFL after the trade happened, and 273 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: if they got any pressure to keep him, because it 274 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: was essentially illegal to do a contract dump according to 275 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: NFL rules, and they maybe they admonished him for it. 276 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, they they're all they're giving him 277 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: first team reps, right, I mean, he's yeah, But it 278 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 1: sounds like, for instance, yesterday when all this stuff at 279 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: Kaiser is getting first team Kaiser and Kessler worked mostly 280 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: with mostly with the first and Oswalder mostly with the 281 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: second team. But then again it switches day to day. 282 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: I don't read too much in that when you don't 283 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: have a clear quarterback, right and when they're in we're 284 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: gonna get to my my trip to Rams camp like 285 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: that really hammered at home for me. How how over 286 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: cooked a lot of the conversation is this time of year. 287 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: For instance, Van's Joseph, the coach of the Broncos, said, 288 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: in terms of his quarterback competition may in June will 289 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: have zero to none in terms of the impact that 290 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: it will have on his decision. He says, that's how 291 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: much man June has mattered to him. Zero to none. 292 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: Let's move on. Eric Decker is a free agent now 293 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: after the Jets formally released the veteran wide deceiver earlier 294 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: this week and his first day as a free agent, 295 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: the receiver's meeting with the Tennessee Titans. Rap Sheet reported 296 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Um Decca released Tuesdays, thirty years old. We 297 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: know the story of him. He's coming off a couple 298 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: of surgeries. His last full healthy season, he was part 299 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: of the best wide receiver wide receiver duo in football, 300 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: and I continue to think that he is a massive, 301 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: massive value by at this stage of the game on 302 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: the NFL calendar. Whoever gets him and the Titans feel 303 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: like a nice fit potentially. I don't think I didn't 304 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: just see you just throw in the best wide receiver 305 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: duo in football, like like oion opinion, We'll see I 306 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: love this. You're not gonna believe, by the way, You're 307 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: not gonna believe their opinions on this podcast. And I 308 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: don't know while you're here give me this because I 309 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: I am on Mark's corner now with the worst team 310 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: in the league, they had they combined yards in right. 311 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: I quickly tried to race through and and think of 312 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: a better example, and I couldn't, So you might be right. 313 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: And I love this move for the Titans. And look, 314 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: I'm all in on the Chargers being the team of 315 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: around the NFL. Matt money Smith, they missed that announcement 316 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,479 Speaker 1: that he was going to be the play by playhost, 317 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: but that that helps it even more. But I do 318 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: like these Titans too. And Eric Decker adding to that group, 319 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: I mean, Mariota having a whole new receiver group, I 320 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:43,359 Speaker 1: think it'd be a terrific pickup. Yeah, and John Robinson 321 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: again has proven that he works quickly. That the why 322 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: you went into this offseason with wide receiver being a 323 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: burning need. You now have Corey Davis. If you ever 324 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: added Eric Decker, that that position group is becomes a 325 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: strength potentially, and it was a completely different type of offense, right, 326 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: and you have you have their third round pick Um 327 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: was also at wide receiver, Taiwan Taylor, so that could 328 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: be like a totally different group essentially. If you pick 329 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: up Decker and Matthews a solid. He's gonna Playtasha sharp 330 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 1: and keep his head on straight. This guy sounds like 331 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of a m He made another guy's 332 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: head not straight. According to reports. We don't want to 333 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: say it's all legend. I don't want to throw any 334 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: cold water. I know everybody seems very excited to make 335 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: the Chargers the team of a t L. I guess 336 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: I'm the only one that has any problems with them 337 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: abandoning the city of San Diego. Like I'm with you 338 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 1: on that reward them as team of a t L 339 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: after they committed what I thought was an affront to 340 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: a very loyal fan base. I find it an odd 341 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: team because we haven't we haven't circled around and had 342 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: a second a team of a teal second time. It 343 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: would be an odd year to do that for a 344 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: team that completely showed zero loyalty to the city of 345 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: saying not come up yet. There's been a lot of 346 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: positive juice about the Chargers on the show in the 347 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: least a couple of months. I'm sure it was a 348 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: team you make a strong point. I was there at 349 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: the at the last game in San Diego history, and 350 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: I came back talking about it for days about how 351 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: they you know, creamed that poor city and how unfair 352 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: it was. If you make a strong point, yeah, I 353 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: think there's sensitivity to it. And you know, we'll figure 354 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: out our team of at L by roughly week eight 355 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: or nin so there will be in depth conversation. Moving 356 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,200 Speaker 1: on to Bears camp, Mitchell Travisky. Of course, the second 357 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: overall pick has a lot of work to do. We 358 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: only at thirteen starts at the university in North Carolina, 359 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 1: and he needs as many live reps as possible to 360 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: really get up to speed at this level of football. 361 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: And during Tuesday's mini camp, coach John Fox was asked 362 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: if he would consider a Chrubisky package quote unquote to 363 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: ensure the first round pick got some work this season. 364 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: Fox decided to conjure up his time with Tim Tebow. 365 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: I've been around in situations like that before, you know, 366 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: back in my time in Denver, even with Tebow. So 367 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: oh yeah, we're gonna do whatever we can as coaches. 368 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: We've gotta put guys in positions where they can utilize 369 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 1: their skill set. And it won't be any different this year. Uh, 370 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: plenty of logic there, Mark, but just invoking the name 371 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: Tebow with any young quarterback. It just feels like it's 372 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: something that's unnecessary because Tiba does not have a great 373 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 1: reputation as a professional quarterback. Let's just be honest here. 374 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: I I don't know why this thing where you bring 375 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: these rookies and the Browns tried this with Johnny Manziel 376 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: to where we're gonna have a package of plays or 377 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: a different type of offense for rookie quarterback X. I 378 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: don't know why you develop Rabisky this way when when 379 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: it's also saying we want to give him a full 380 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: year to develop and and and really come back the 381 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: year after as a potential starter. I it always bothers 382 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: me that Fox essentially was kept in the dark about 383 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: this entire trade up and the way that they picked Robinsky, 384 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: and now he's got to deal with it, and it's 385 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: not a player that he wanted necessarily, and it's a 386 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 1: team that there probably is going to be increased pressure 387 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: of Mike glennon struggles, not from Fox so the coaching 388 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: staff necessarily, but from other parts of the building to 389 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: get Robinsky on the field. And this I don't think 390 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: this is that, but it sort of hints it that 391 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: a little and if you if you really breakdown what 392 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 1: Fox said, like almost everything John Fox said it amounts 393 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 1: to nothing. I mean he doesn't say anything. No one 394 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: gives less to the media, and it's it would seem 395 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: crazy in my mind if they did this with Rabisky, 396 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: I kind of would be surprised if if it happened. 397 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: I want to cycle back to the Browns quickly. Bad 398 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: hosting job by me, but let's cycle back. This happened 399 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: right before we came upstairs. But Myles Garrett, the first 400 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: overall pick in the NFL draft UH in mini camp 401 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: on UH today Wednesday, suffered a foot injury. He was 402 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: seen limping to the sideline at the end of the practice. Um, 403 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: coach you Jackson did not seem to think it was serious. Uh, 404 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: there's so we'll find out. And this would be a 405 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 1: good test mark if the Browns, if God hates Cleveland 406 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: all that stuff, if if if we have some type 407 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: of serious setback for this guy, let's just help, you 408 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: know it just a little cramp or something. Nothing. Uh 409 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: no Sammy walkin scenario here. Yeah. I feel like if 410 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: if God has like a like a top five sort 411 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: of power rankings of cities that would be on his radar. 412 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: Why why Cleveland, A you know, it's economically struggling, a 413 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: lot of you know, salt of the Earth type people. 414 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you be more focused on certain like hyper 415 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: violent areas of the Middle East to be on your 416 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: radar than Cleveland. Maybe get over that God Wow, taking 417 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: shots at them, not taking a shot at well, I thought, 418 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: not taking not taking a shot at God necessarily either, 419 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: but just maybe asking him to rethink this. That's what's 420 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: happening here, prends, funds and burners the God Wow, because 421 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: I mean, let's get our priorities from our listeners from 422 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: the Middle East. That is Mark Sessler, alright, he lives 423 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: in West l a. If any. They have had three 424 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: and I know, I know they're hurting right now, but 425 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: they have had three straight NBA Finals appearances. Things things 426 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: haven't gotten too poorly, and they came within one like 427 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: inning of winning the World Series last year two so well, 428 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: by the way, that's not what I would call that's 429 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: painful exactly, that's not joy before. The Indians are a 430 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: great team now and the Calves obviously have Lebron h 431 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: if if just if the Browns could just get over 432 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: the hub, right, we don't need any more document you know, 433 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: documentaries from Yes, I would be fine for there to 434 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 1: be no more documentaries, including if that means Cleveland actually 435 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: does something more than win two games in a season. 436 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: It is airing again this weekend. Speak of ESPN documentaries. 437 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: You know, we get this, we get the narrative. It's 438 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: been out there for a while. Horrible NBA Playoffs. Very 439 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: disappointed how it all turned out. Um, but I just 440 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: want to say, the one thing I was looking forward to, 441 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: and I saw hundreds of commercials leading up to it, 442 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: was the Celtics Lakers thirty for thirty. I think it 443 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: was best of enemies is the name of it. And uh, 444 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: you know, I sit down in front of my uh television, 445 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: I put I put the young boy to bed, and 446 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: my other boy hasn't come home yet, and I'm like, 447 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna dig in on this because I love that 448 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: magic Bird history. He's getting bombed. I've lost control of 449 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: Jack Ready's two and a half. Um, and the first 450 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: voice I hear basically is Donnie Wahlberg. I grew up 451 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: on the South side of Boston with Larry Bird was king, 452 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: and I love Boston and then it's like and then 453 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, dueling narrator, here comes ice Cube. Oh 454 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: the Lakers were everything was all about the Lakers and 455 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: Larry Bird's terrible. It's like, do not hit me with 456 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: the dueling narrators with Donnie Wahlberg of all people, not 457 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: even Mark and then ice Cube again. And how many 458 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: more documentaries is ice Cube have to be involved with 459 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,399 Speaker 1: narrating about the Los Angeles sports scene? We did it? 460 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 1: What are we gonna keep on doing? This? Come back 461 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: to us very much like this ramp, I mean, clever 462 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 1: moved by you to pivot to Cube to distract attention 463 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: away from your Donnie Warburg Boston impression. That was the 464 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: hands of Gary Barden's going out. Let me try it again. 465 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: I grew up in in Southey where Larry Bird was 466 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: king a minute, Nana, you love it, boss. I can't 467 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: do it. The word Larry did not come out correctly there. 468 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: I I lived on a college dorm campus. It was 469 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: I wasn't exactly you know out where like the Goodwill 470 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: hunting guys. Really anyway, I just you know, the ice 471 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: Cube thing. They just did that with the the Raiders 472 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: thing with wasn't there a Raiders documentary ice Cube Narry 473 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: And it was good, it was fine. It was nice 474 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 1: that that Cube was involved with that one. But now 475 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: you're running them back for this and it's Donnie against 476 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: ice Cube. Donny is a little low wattage. That's a 477 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: concerning choice by Uspian. I will say one thing about 478 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 1: the Raiders though, I mean, does it have to be 479 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: there's an organization worthy of some documentaries. A lot of 480 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: good things have happened. Did we ever even get to 481 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: the Browns news? Yeah, Myles Garrett had a footage. I 482 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: mean I don't even recall talking. Yeah we did. It's 483 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: not that serious, they hope, and we hope it's not. 484 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: And if if it is serious, remember that's how we 485 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 1: got to it, then God hate the Browns. Then I 486 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: am going to leave the company. Uh. Finally that's enough 487 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: is enough? Oh I totally get that. Uh And finally Greg, 488 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: they put them on the road. Uh. This week Greg 489 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 1: Rosenthal went to Rams camp on Tuesday. So you might 490 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: remember last year, Uh, it was Greggy does Dallas and 491 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,959 Speaker 1: now this year, um let's call it Greggy Pokes Thousand Oaks. 492 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: Who I like that. It's also kind of gross, that's 493 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 1: what we're going for. I will. I mean, Thousand Oaks 494 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: is a beautiful town, so I guess if I was 495 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: gonna Polka town. I had never I had never been 496 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: there before, but they they're at cal Lutheran University I 497 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: wasn't familiar with. But a beautiful setting, some mountains in 498 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: the in the back, perfect weather. I think it's very quiet. 499 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: One thing that that struck me being up there. It's 500 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: almost like the RAMS are like a small market team 501 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: in terms of their coverage still. I mean they were 502 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: in St. Louis, which is one of the smallest markets, 503 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: but it was pretty quiet. Was great because you know, 504 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: I could talk to people, but you know five, five 505 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: or six you know, print reporters, you know, a couple 506 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:14,239 Speaker 1: of local TV. Well that's about it. Quiet and there 507 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: was some incredible access. Like there there'd be that was 508 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,119 Speaker 1: a scrum, and there'd be there's no you couldn't call 509 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: it a scrum, three reporters standing around when we did. 510 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: I went to Oxnard last spring when they did the 511 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: Hard Knocks press conference and that was that was the 512 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,719 Speaker 1: rams first year back in l A. You would think 513 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: there will be a lot of l A reporters and 514 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: it was just like me and like three other guys, 515 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: they're asking the questions on something that was live on 516 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: NFL network, and afterwards there's just like anybody could have 517 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: gone up to any of the front office officials. They 518 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: had Todd Gurley and a couple other players available, and 519 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: it was just there was no swell at all. It 520 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: makes sense, I guess it makes sense because you've got 521 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: reporters going to the Angels and the Dodgers and I 522 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: don't know other other things. I mean, they are having 523 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 1: to win over I mean, you're gonna have to win 524 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: over this mark in terms of in terms of interest, 525 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: I guess I mean that the the institute, you know 526 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: in Cleveland, It's like people have been Browns fans for 527 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: fifty years, so you know, you gotta build that back up. Greg. So, 528 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,479 Speaker 1: what were your takeaways from your visit if you had 529 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 1: any at all? Uh? Well, Greg, one thing that stuck 530 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: out was that now I had a couple Greg Robinson. 531 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 1: Remember Greg Robinson, number two overall pick in the draft. 532 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: He was he was not even getting on the field 533 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: with the first or the second team. So that made 534 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: that made me think that they are going to move 535 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: on from Greg Robinson or they're really trying to send 536 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: a message. But he's due three and a half million 537 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: dollars and that's a lot for a guy who's, I 538 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: guess right now fifth or sixth in their rotation at tackle, 539 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: which is do you want to do? You know the 540 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: message that they were sending, Hey, Gred, Greg Robinson, you suck. 541 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: That's terrible. Uh wait, that that is you know they're 542 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: not letting him play at all? Sit down, be humble 543 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: might be the second part of them. Uh be humble. Uh. 544 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley never likes when we're to be critical players. 545 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 1: And I was I was pointing. I was pointing out, 546 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 1: stop leave him alone. You always react the same way. A. Well, 547 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: he's building a relationship with the Rims, so you know 548 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: he's gonna have to be up in there in beautiful 549 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: thousand Oaks maybe sooner. Orter. He's like a guy Greg's 550 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: and double a NFL dot com and he wants to 551 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: get the tap and he wants to come up to 552 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: the major's NFL network. And that's how you stay there. 553 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: You gotta to have access. You need to treat the 554 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 1: players as higher entities than yourself. And I see it 555 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: now makes it well With that in mind, I'll point 556 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 1: out it did look like if you're a Todd Gurley 557 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: fantasy owner or that hated life last year because they 558 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: would never get him the ball in the passing game. 559 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: I hesitate to take too much away from watching these 560 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: practices and shorts, but you couldn't help but notice that 561 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: he's lining up out wide, you know, outside of two 562 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: wide receivers a couple of times. Then he's motioning in 563 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,479 Speaker 1: running the other way and they're throwing it to him. 564 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: I mean, he he seemed to be getting a lot 565 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: of targets in the passing game, and I would find 566 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: that exciting. Tyler Higbee was the other guy who had 567 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: a great day. I mean, I don't know if he's 568 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 1: had a great couple of weeks, but he was a 569 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: beast in the end zone. One question, because yeah, it's well, 570 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: can you take away in terms of what you're seeing 571 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: play to play, but is there any do you see 572 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: any shared DNA between the Redskins on tape and the 573 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: Rams offense or is it just too hard to put 574 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: that together at this point. I think just the way 575 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: that McVeigh talks in terms of them, he's trying to 576 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: create matchups you know. That's what he answered when talking 577 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: about Girly, and girle was really trying to It's almost 578 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: like the reporters are trying to make him own that 579 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: he struggled last year, and he almost refuses to say 580 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: that that it's all team thing. He said, he doesn't 581 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: care about what he does individually, only cares about the team. 582 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: But I think there's just a confidence from all the 583 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: players on both sides of the ball, but especially offense. 584 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, we have some people that you know 585 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: what they're doing. I mean a lot of Girlely was 586 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: talking about, you know, just crediting the coaches. They weren't 587 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: disparaging last year's coaches, but Jared Goff and Girly and 588 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: really the offensive guys were just so effusive and how 589 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: good these offensive coaches were. You can't help but compare 590 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: them to the Jeff Fisher's staff. Was everyone nice to you, Greg? Yeah? 591 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: They treat they were nice to Greggy. They took care 592 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: of him. Everyone was treated as did you do any hits? No? 593 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: No hits. I was kind of collecting stuff for a way. 594 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: Why are they giv hits? Feature I did? I did 595 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: let them know, but you know they had they have 596 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: other people elsewhere that they decided to use. Any other 597 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 1: takeaways before we move up. That's about Connor Barwin was 598 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: a fantastic interview and it was very nice to really 599 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: make extra time like after their meetings. Was there and 600 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: that'll be in the Wade Phillips. Did you expense a 601 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: meal or drinks after we're able to eat up there 602 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: and before you came home to your family? Response? I 603 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: was worried. Yeah, so I stopped at Trader Joe's right 604 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: near near their facility and got a couple of grab 605 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 1: and go things. It's about eight bucks. Oh, I would 606 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: milk that expense account for more than I think you have. Roughly, 607 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: I could have gotten dinner on the way back. I 608 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: should have done that, but I didn't. Yeah, next time, 609 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: I would say maximize that use use that money where 610 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: you can. Well, they pay you for gas too, and 611 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: they pay way too much for some reason. I don't 612 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: know why, Like the gas rates very high. Yeah, let's 613 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: not let them know that. Yeah, well they seem fair 614 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: to me. And when you were driving up to the 615 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: facility where you did you roll down the windows and 616 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: crank your tunage up and say, hey, I'm getting out 617 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: of the office. This is why i'd work for the 618 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: NFL anything like that. I was listening to some you 619 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 1: know podcasts, I think some tennis podcasts. That is not 620 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: something some WTF with Mark Maron. Listen to a little 621 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: bit of that like that, I did feel like leaving 622 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: there though there is something too all right. I put 623 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: in an honest days work. Also, I filed before I left, 624 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: so that sometimes I'm writing, you know, at night at home. 625 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: It tends to be my thing lately, and it's like 626 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: I filed. You know, you get in the car, it's sunny, 627 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: you got a little tan. You're like, I'm an honest 628 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: man making it outest. That's it's funny. It is. It's 629 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: it's funny too because and in the rare occasions every 630 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: once in a while when I've been in New York 631 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: working for this job, and maybe let's say, for instance, 632 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,239 Speaker 1: because I'm aware of who all the jets beats, right, 633 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: beat beat writers are. If I go to cover like 634 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: a rex Press conference or something like that, I always 635 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: feel like they're all looking at me like who is 636 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: this toll? Like we are the beat guys. Who's this 637 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: loser showing up? Oh? I think they are. Yeah, no, 638 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying that. But you know, although I don't think 639 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: you were being judged at all. All the beat guys 640 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: were extremely nice and gracious and uh they're ESPN reporter 641 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: aldn Gonzoalz as he listens to the podcast, shout to 642 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: al Yeah, Alton Gonzalez. Uh, let's uh so that was 643 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: Greggy Pokes thousand oaks. Let's move on checking on the 644 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: end around over on the old end around. Jeremy Macklin. Uh, 645 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: as we know, are we doing it again? Oh? Every show? 646 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: Now we're back. We're back. This team in the Ravens 647 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: nest again Mark's least favorite team in the NFL. This, 648 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: I mean, we might have to stop talking about the 649 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: Ravens for the rest of the summer after this run. Anyway, 650 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: Jeremy Macklin, you know that what happens when a prominent 651 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: kind of interesting that Jeremy Macklin made the cut here. 652 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: Whenever a prominent free agent is uh doing visits and 653 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: a local restaurant will send a tweet, you know, an 654 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: insert popular product here for life that will be fine 655 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: with the bird sound thing. Let's kill the crows in 656 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: the service of you know, publicity and some good will 657 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: for the fans. Anyway, So there's a a restaurant called 658 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: Jimmy Seafood in Baltimore that offered Macklin. First they said 659 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: free crab cakes for the length of his contract, and 660 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: then when Macklin didn't respond, they just up the anti 661 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: and double down and made a lifetime offer. And what 662 00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: they didn't know is that Macklin was tracking at the 663 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: all time. He had in his back pocket. So after 664 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: he signed that deal with the Ravens, he came back 665 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: at Jimmy Seafood and tweeted, I'd read what y'all said. 666 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: I love crab cakes L O L. And then Jimmy 667 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: Seafood responded, Mark, this is I want to get your 668 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: take of this. H Jimmy Seafood responded, we are crabs 669 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: of our word, and to me, the language of the 670 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 1: tweet clearly seems to indicate that the crabs themselves are 671 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: running Jimmy Seafood. And that's you know, fascinating, impressive quite frankly. 672 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: Then again, and then you take a step back and go, 673 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: wait a second, If the crabs are running the restaurant 674 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: and they're serving crabs, it just took a dark, dark 675 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: turn a Sulian green type turn almost and on top 676 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: of it, they're literate and and and have a grasp 677 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: of social media, which is also you know news. You 678 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: can't it can't be easy to type with those crab claws. 679 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: But let's not bury the lead here. They're sacrificed their 680 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: own their own two people like Jeremy Macklin and the 681 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: thousands and thousands of crab obsessed uh Marylands. But in 682 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: theory crabs, right, like the best looking crabs are the 683 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: one that you would put on a plate. Maybe not 684 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,879 Speaker 1: for crab cakes, but it's like, how do you how 685 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: did the crabs decide who gets off here? Why would 686 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 1: it be the like the higher level crab just self 687 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: hating crabs Greg Rosenthal, genocidal crabs. Uh. And finally in 688 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: the news Ben Bacado. So that was troubling, like that 689 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: took a sharp left turn into onto like troubling bowloard Right, 690 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: it's like that that skiing movie where they end up 691 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 1: eating the dead. I will say one thing, I've never 692 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: eaten crab cakes in my entire life. Not all right, 693 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: but then the only time, well you don't like you're 694 00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: a footian, I I am decided, well, I I don't 695 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: eat crabs, but the one time I came close to 696 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: trying it, I had a girlfriend, uh, and her family 697 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: lived very nice family lived in the Baltimore area, but 698 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: our relationship was on very rocky soil, to say the least, 699 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: and we went out in the Baltimore area to have 700 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: crab cakes at least they were, and I was gonna 701 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: maybe try one, and we had quite a few beers 702 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: in us. We were young, early twenties, and she kept 703 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: referring to me, well, now I suld twice mistakenly referred 704 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: to me by the name of her ex boyfriend in 705 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: front of her family, and so which was that was 706 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:28,720 Speaker 1: a well, it was the first thing was a micro 707 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,080 Speaker 1: cosm of everything else that was happening, I think. But 708 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: on top of it, I was like, I don't like 709 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: crab cakes, I don't like Baltimore. I don't I'm getting 710 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 1: out of this situation, so let's get out of this 711 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: your missed. I had a somewhat similar situation with a 712 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 1: with a name uh faux Pa. This was shortly after 713 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 1: getting out of my college relationship, which carried into post college, 714 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: and I was going on a Valentine's day date with 715 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: a young woman in the Hoboken the city of Hoboken, 716 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: home of Mike Garoffalo Garfolo. Excuse me, and um, I 717 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: accidentally called the date my ex girlfriend's name as we're 718 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: leaving the restaurant. It was a little drunk. I think 719 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 1: that's accurate. Finally, you're missing out on crab cakes. By 720 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: the way, give me a break, it's delicious. And by 721 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,879 Speaker 1: the way, Mark, you you missed the show Monday, you said, 722 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: or just steam crab or whatever you had you had 723 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,319 Speaker 1: a stomach bug, Mark, And I just want to ask, 724 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: Le's be honest, did have anything to do with your 725 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: Tom Brady diet. No, had not had a I'm just examining. 726 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: I'm just doing those once in a while. Had not 727 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: had one of those in that book. I I will 728 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: dig in more on this topic later, but it's I 729 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: think it's getting uh too much press for being ultra 730 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: weird when it's really just essentially not as weird as 731 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: I thought it would be. And finally, no, don't try 732 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: to link it to that injury's out. The jury is 733 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: not out. There's no jury up, you know, attending to 734 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 1: this case, I had not eaten that I had probably 735 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 1: nine eels after having a Tom bradymeal. That was like, 736 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: they've been very good. That was like the equivalent of 737 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: Bill Cosby's defense team. It was like, we're gonna call 738 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: one witness and we want to settle our defense in 739 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: fourteen minutes. Why on earth are you drawing a parallel 740 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,399 Speaker 1: to that? Of all things? Hey, when I could draw 741 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: a parallel directly from Tom Brady to Bill Cosby, I'm 742 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: gonna do it. Finally in the end around whoa Ben 743 00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: McAdoo got a haircut. Whoa everybody see this Ben mcado Yeah, 744 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: I saw it. Whoa Uh? Ben went he had very 745 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: strange haircut last year with the Giants. Let's just put 746 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,439 Speaker 1: it that way. It was it was kind of like 747 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 1: there was no way to really make sense of it. 748 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: It was like too short and too long, and it 749 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: looked faked, but but then obviously real. Uh, it looked 750 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 1: like it was comb but then it looked kind of messy. 751 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: It was a strange do So what did he do? 752 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: He just he pulled in the sides a little bit, 753 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: he got tight on the sides, threw it to the back, 754 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 1: grew it out a little bit, and combed it to 755 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,680 Speaker 1: the back and all the green so you can handle 756 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: and now he's got like a pat Riley look. Thought, well, 757 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,839 Speaker 1: hold on, what Greg, have you seen the I mean 758 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: pat Riley own that look he this is I'm not 759 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: saying he looks as good because bat pat Riley pulled 760 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: it off to pat Riley didn't shave the sides though. 761 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: It's to me, it's very weird. It's just weird. I'm 762 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: sorry he was. He was asked about it. The Prescott 763 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: got a surprising amount of buzz, or maybe not surprising 764 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 1: considering the market. He was asked if he had been 765 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 1: getting any uh, you know, slack from team the team 766 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: it's striking. Yeah, they've been pushing me, so I gotta 767 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: keep it fresh, right. I just think it was the 768 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: right move though even if this maybe you're he's not 769 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 1: there yet. He had to move away from that prior cut. 770 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: I think the next thing is the goatee. Yeah, but 771 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:52,920 Speaker 1: this one is also among NFL hair head coach haircuts. 772 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: I would say, still the weirdest it is. It is strange. 773 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: It is just maybe it would look good on like 774 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 1: a nineteen year old, but for some reason, on on mcadood, 775 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: who is about the most serious like him, and his 776 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 1: old boss Mike McCarthy are probably the two like least 777 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: like most humorouss guys in front of a pot, they're 778 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: just so serious, like they're serious about they're serious about everything. 779 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 1: And then he steps up with that haircut, which is 780 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: not and you're operating with a mustache at the same time, 781 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: and you have to go to well, it's it's it 782 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 1: is goatee, but he's he's taken some off the chin. 783 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: This is what I'm looking at a photo here, it's you. 784 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 1: I have to say, I can't get a feel on 785 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 1: Ben McAdoo like who he is as a person, what's 786 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 1: going on, like what makes him a head coach. He 787 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 1: is one of the most confounding head coach. Is not 788 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 1: in a good or bad way. I can remember in 789 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: a long long time. Well, he's just coming off on 790 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: eleven and five season in a playoff. Uh, I would 791 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: grow out the sides a little bit. I agree, that's 792 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: a little off putting. And then I would either lose 793 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: the goatee or grow in a full beard. And I'm 794 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,240 Speaker 1: telling you'll do a lot. I would go full beard 795 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: because he's you know on these coaches that well I 796 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: don't he doesn't have a and he's not exactly like 797 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: the Bill Coward like chin he's operating with either. So 798 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: I grow up big beard and like and take a 799 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: little density off the top of butted Bernard blow to No. 800 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,919 Speaker 1: I think he's how you absolutely have you have something 801 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,479 Speaker 1: to work with here, but you I think the beard 802 00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 1: is a good idea. That's what's happening in the news. 803 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 1: Elevate your underwear game to the next level with me 804 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 1: and is what is meand' is just seriously soft, feel 805 00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 1: good and the delivered right to your door's designed in 806 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 1: l A and made from sustainably sourced micro mozal a 807 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: fabric three time softer than cotton, which is you know, 808 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 1: I never really thought about that as I read it. 809 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: That's insiderably soft soft. It's almost dare I say too soft? 810 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:52,800 Speaker 1: I mean, how soft you want to get? It's a 811 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: fair question. Meandi's softer than soft. Well, that's they're even 812 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 1: admitting it. They're basically saying, you don't. I can't even 813 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,359 Speaker 1: plane No, there's no word choice here for this. Lug 814 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,320 Speaker 1: Undis come in an ever changing selection of classic colors, 815 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: bold shades, and adventurous patterns, so you can telor your 816 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: undis to your own personal style at all. And guess 817 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:18,399 Speaker 1: what what? You can save time and money each that's 818 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 1: extra words. You can talk. You could save time and 819 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,959 Speaker 1: money with a monthly subscription. And if you're not ready 820 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: or for a subscription, that's okay, you can still seeve. 821 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: That's because me ands is offering you off your first pair. 822 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: Just use our uh emphasis, they're our special U r 823 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 1: L M meds dot com slash around the NFL and 824 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: get off your first pair. So go ahead revap your 825 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: underwear drawer because you know what you deserve. It means 826 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 1: dot com slash around the NFL. Alright, Greg, we gotta 827 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: hit it. Uh. This this broke right before you went away. 828 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 1: And um and it's kind of a touchy situation, let's 829 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 1: face it, because not too touchy. It's old news two 830 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 1: weeks ago. Well that's why we showed respect. Wait, we 831 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 1: waited for you to get back because I thought it 832 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 1: was important for you to be in the room for 833 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:17,479 Speaker 1: this discussion, which is Miko Grimes came after you real hard. 834 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: I mean we're talking Bunser Bunsen burner, blowtorch to the maximum, 835 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 1: all about a column that Greg wrote. Uh, and I'll 836 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,719 Speaker 1: start here. And I know Greg, you you expressed to 837 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,399 Speaker 1: me privately that you don't really want to dwell on this. 838 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 1: But I think let's at least at least touch on 839 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,640 Speaker 1: what this is. Because Greg wrote in a column a 840 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, and I'll read it verbatim here 841 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,720 Speaker 1: in the in the Grimes Media power rankings, Miko topped 842 00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 1: Brent last season for headlines, despite Brent turning in one 843 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: of the most randomly dominant seasons ever for an aging quarterback. 844 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,839 Speaker 1: Expecting Grimes to back that up at thirty four years 845 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: old is unfair, and the Bucks are very thin after 846 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,759 Speaker 1: their starters at the position. This team will be targeted 847 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,319 Speaker 1: in a hass happy division. Now, Mark, that's fair criticism, 848 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,920 Speaker 1: is it? I don't even think it's criticism. If anything, 849 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 1: he's lifting up Brent Grimes, and he Brent Crimes should 850 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: be happy about what Greg wrote about Brent Grimes. Michael 851 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,360 Speaker 1: Grimes not so sure where she comes in here, all right, 852 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: I will even say I will even take this. Uh 853 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 1: and again, Greg not totally comfortable talking about this, but 854 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,880 Speaker 1: me for it either, But I will the other My 855 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 1: My point is, in Greg's defense, why don't you and 856 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: I break down this the whole thing in my and 857 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 1: my thoughts on this. Greg's little quip that got him 858 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:41,280 Speaker 1: on her radar that Miko top Rent in the season 859 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: for headlines or season that was not even a cheap 860 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 1: shot because Brent Grimes had a quietly I would say, 861 00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 1: I was trying to point out he he had a 862 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 1: great season, of course, and uh under the radar, and 863 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:55,880 Speaker 1: she was in the headlines a lot. I mean this 864 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,760 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. I mean there was there. 865 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,239 Speaker 1: We don't need to go through it how but she, 866 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 1: you know, we've heard of Miko Grimes, She's been in 867 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:09,760 Speaker 1: the headlines. I got this information literally when they called 868 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 1: my boarding group to get on my plane and I 869 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 1: was had one you know, Toddler in one hand and 870 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 1: the other in the other hand, and Jeff Darlington or 871 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 1: old colleague, texted me this and I actually thought, this 872 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 1: is that the timing could not be more perfect, because 873 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be disconnected and off Twitter, and I don't 874 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:30,480 Speaker 1: want to be. If I was here, I would have 875 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 1: been sitting there reading my mentions and all of this 876 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 1: uh stuff all day. But I am someone I I 877 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,399 Speaker 1: have a really strong feeling of nothing bothers me more 878 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:45,720 Speaker 1: than when you see like a media figure going back 879 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,840 Speaker 1: and forth with another media figure on Twitter. To me, 880 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 1: it is the most obnoxious thing in the world. So 881 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 1: I don't so, yeah, that's why I don't want to 882 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 1: talk because I don't have no need to be part. 883 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 1: No one gains from that. No one gains from going 884 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,800 Speaker 1: back and forth. Now, and I and I kind of thought, 885 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,000 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm a fan. I kind of think 886 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 1: you know me Grimes. It's funny if I there was 887 00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 1: there was one line where she said something about you know, 888 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 1: my two me and my two gees, and I mean 889 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,439 Speaker 1: it kind of just cracked me up on some level. 890 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 1: I was just delighted and then just wanted to move on. Um. 891 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 1: Actually the tweet is not on this page. What was it? 892 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,120 Speaker 1: It was? By the way, I will say this, if 893 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 1: you if you do a search for ms Grimes on 894 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:39,400 Speaker 1: on Google, the first entry is Miko Grimes Wicky, the 895 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 1: second is Grimes Greg Rosenthal. You're it's honestly, well it's recent, yes, well, 896 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:48,280 Speaker 1: it's it's impactful. It's also I I do remember it roughly. 897 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:52,319 Speaker 1: It was something to do with the like the bull, 898 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 1: the bull two G double G s in his name 899 00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 1: he's a ot a G. It was funny and if 900 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 1: I didn't work for the Shield, I would have immediately 901 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 1: changed my Twitter profile to you know, quote, he's not 902 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 1: a G. That's I mean, that's There were there were 903 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,239 Speaker 1: many shots that there was the one that got on 904 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 1: West's radar last week about how she pointed out the 905 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 1: number of followers and she called you, ah, well, I 906 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,359 Speaker 1: appreciated that she was like, she was pointing out, like 907 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,360 Speaker 1: how many followers. I had almost like, hey, this guy, Uh, 908 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:32,919 Speaker 1: why are you all following this blank dork? She said, 909 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,439 Speaker 1: you can't appreciate that. Come on, I mean, I feel 910 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 1: like you're going too easy on her. And I don't 911 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 1: know if it's because you don't want the war to continue, 912 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,239 Speaker 1: but we even I was so excited about that. I 913 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,400 Speaker 1: was disappointed that Greg didn't want to, uh launch a 914 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 1: counter offensive. We had Little Debbie on retainer, ready to 915 00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:53,080 Speaker 1: let out a dish track. We were ready to drop 916 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 1: a major dish tract on Miko Grimes, who, according to 917 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 1: one of her tweets, listens to the show. Sure, honey, uh, 918 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,440 Speaker 1: there's a way she listens to the show. But because 919 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,560 Speaker 1: we were respecting Greg's wishes, because he was the one 920 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 1: directly involved with this beef, this big side of beef, 921 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 1: this flame mignon beef that a podcast host dreams about. Uh, 922 00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:13,920 Speaker 1: one of the people on the show being involved with 923 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,239 Speaker 1: I gotta defer to Greg and we can't. Well, yeah, 924 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,800 Speaker 1: I did see that. Well it didn't stop you from 925 00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:22,840 Speaker 1: including it in some show the greatest NFL Feuds of 926 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,280 Speaker 1: all time? And I was like, what have I been involved? 927 00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:33,319 Speaker 1: I've been involved this well podcast episode last to what 928 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: we do. But how is it if I've actually been 929 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 1: in some NFL media feuds in this building that will 930 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,560 Speaker 1: stay unnamed. In my time here, this was not a feud. 931 00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 1: I have not been involved in this feud whatsoever. I 932 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 1: think you know why we did that? Well, we all 933 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,359 Speaker 1: we were fixing for a fight. Let's be honest, we 934 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:51,879 Speaker 1: were ready to go to war. It would have been 935 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 1: very different if I was here and we were doing 936 00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,120 Speaker 1: the podcast that day. The whole thing would play out, 937 00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,240 Speaker 1: would play it differently. But now you know, you know, Frankly, Frankly, 938 00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:03,480 Speaker 1: I don't. Yes, I don't think Greg has been gracious 939 00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 1: enough without loyal we were to him, and how we 940 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,480 Speaker 1: went went to bad form or ready to go to 941 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 1: war with this mad woman. Yeah, we and he's just 942 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,400 Speaker 1: acting like it's something that should have been assumed. And 943 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,359 Speaker 1: that's a fair point. Did you appreciate West was was 944 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 1: fired up? And I appreciate you guys all having my back. 945 00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:28,760 Speaker 1: Your boy tweeted stand with Miko, Well what is that about? 946 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 1: I mean that's his thing. Yeah, he had a couple 947 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,799 Speaker 1: and yeah, one of him was hashtag. I stayed with me. 948 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,319 Speaker 1: I will say this although I multiple times like we 949 00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 1: respond to people and say yes. Obviously with Greg, I 950 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 1: did not go so far as to include Grime. Michael 951 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,239 Speaker 1: Grimes is Twitter handle. I didn't want to deal with her, 952 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,359 Speaker 1: Nico Grimes, whatever her name is. I did not want 953 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 1: to deal with her on any level. So that's where 954 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,320 Speaker 1: my loyalty, you know, hit a wall to some degree. 955 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 1: Never before. If I wanted uh R j VP to 956 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 1: come back as much as I do after this happened, 957 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 1: we could get you to listen to your first episode. 958 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,680 Speaker 1: I might plug in if we come back for the Miko. 959 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 1: If you do it, Shadowy Lake figures I would. I 960 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,799 Speaker 1: would listen to Wait. So you go after them, but 961 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,920 Speaker 1: you'll go after the woman that called you a with 962 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,080 Speaker 1: no g S or whatever. I mean, it's all, it's 963 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 1: all uh, it's so busy, you know, just one gigantic 964 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,920 Speaker 1: roaming bit. All right, So I believe it to be 965 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 1: a missed opportunity, but I respect I knew you would. 966 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,920 Speaker 1: I knew you would because I thought it would have 967 00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:33,520 Speaker 1: been not only would it have been a lot of fun. 968 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 1: We're still talking about it here five minutes. No, but 969 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,279 Speaker 1: I really wanted that little Debbie distract. That's well, she'll 970 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 1: be disappointed, and I'm gonna have to reach out to her, 971 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,200 Speaker 1: to her now, right because we you know, back and 972 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 1: forth probably fourteen to fifteen texts, arranging, changed schedules. She 973 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,360 Speaker 1: was very excited to appear on behalf of this effort. 974 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,880 Speaker 1: So you know, we've disappointed little Debbie. That's where my 975 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,759 Speaker 1: concern I'm starting to be again. It's a problem one. 976 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,400 Speaker 1: That's another example of how we had mobalized on Greg's behalf. 977 00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,280 Speaker 1: I appreciate it, but we're different. But we're different humans. 978 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 1: You would react? Are you tell me this? Often? You don't. 979 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:15,720 Speaker 1: You say I'm somehow uh not human, which is ridiculous human. 980 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,600 Speaker 1: But I that I react to things differently. Maybe this 981 00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,319 Speaker 1: is one of them that you know that's that's why 982 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,400 Speaker 1: we're respecting it, right, and I and I and I 983 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 1: like speaking for and handling myself too. I pretty I 984 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,080 Speaker 1: love that you guys uh stuck up for me. But 985 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna say handle it how I want 986 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,920 Speaker 1: to handle it. And now here's the world premiere of 987 00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:40,080 Speaker 1: Little ws Go just kidding, all right, all right, let's 988 00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 1: move on until how about this if she comes after you? 989 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 1: Actually she kept coming out to Greg, uh days and 990 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 1: days after this, but if something else happened, there is 991 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,120 Speaker 1: something I don't know. There is something I like in 992 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:58,880 Speaker 1: these situations when when people just don't respond. Hey, you 993 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 1: were the bigger man, Greg, She's not technically a man, 994 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:07,520 Speaker 1: so he is. You were the bigger human, very human. 995 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:11,759 Speaker 1: You showed it with this. All right, let's move on. 996 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:19,360 Speaker 1: Uh what It's okay, though, Little Debbi's gonna be crushed. 997 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:21,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to deal with that after work. I mean, 998 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm getting out of here as soon as the show ends, 999 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 1: and I I'm I'm going right into a bus nest. 1000 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 1: Bad news. The show is never going to end. I've learned. 1001 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,799 Speaker 1: Is like my friendship with Dan, you know, matters, and 1002 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,359 Speaker 1: it's nice, but it's not as important to him as 1003 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 1: the show. You know, I resent that that is a 1004 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,960 Speaker 1: that is a theme that is thrown around here. Of 1005 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,960 Speaker 1: course it's important to me. But I guess we are 1006 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 1: different in the sense that a complete evisceration of this 1007 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:56,919 Speaker 1: Migo Grimes persona from a very popular NFL podcast going 1008 00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,440 Speaker 1: after her hard, that would have been to me not 1009 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:07,600 Speaker 1: only entertaining but also a show of you know, brotherhood. Well, 1010 00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:13,360 Speaker 1: that's where we're different. By Cell Hold on Mini camp narratives. Yes, 1011 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,920 Speaker 1: this is the final week of mini camps before the 1012 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,799 Speaker 1: NFL's dark period, so we decided to check in on 1013 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:25,800 Speaker 1: some of the storylines percolating across the league. And uh, 1014 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,279 Speaker 1: and we will share a couple of each and and 1015 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,400 Speaker 1: you tell us and we'll all jump in whether we 1016 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:35,719 Speaker 1: buy hold or sell on these storylines. Uh, Mark, why 1017 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,759 Speaker 1: don't you get us going? Baby? Well, I know that 1018 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:42,120 Speaker 1: coaches never lie about their quarterback situations and their impending 1019 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,520 Speaker 1: quarterback duels. We have one in Denver. We heard about 1020 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,399 Speaker 1: Vance Joseph saying he's taken nothing away from may or June. 1021 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:52,480 Speaker 1: That will stick. But Denver Post columnists Mark Hissla, longtime 1022 00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:56,400 Speaker 1: writer for the Broncos, how's there's a little report out 1023 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,919 Speaker 1: there because Calton quotes obvious that Paxton Lynch's the club 1024 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,879 Speaker 1: house leader over Trevor Simeon with in quotes hints everywhere. 1025 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,400 Speaker 1: This guy talks to a lot of people. Kissel believes 1026 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,760 Speaker 1: the only way Lynch doesn't start as if he messes 1027 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,400 Speaker 1: it up, calling Simeon nothing more than the fail safe device. 1028 00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,839 Speaker 1: I found that a little surprising after what we saw 1029 00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:19,200 Speaker 1: from Simeon last year. Are we buying this new leader 1030 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,280 Speaker 1: in the clubhouse? According to the Denver Post, I'm selling. 1031 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:26,880 Speaker 1: I'm selling hard on this mark because I believe that Simeon, 1032 00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,319 Speaker 1: although you guys are bigger fans than I was, I guess, 1033 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 1: but he certainly showed in year one that he was 1034 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,680 Speaker 1: somebody that could potentially develop into a proficient starter. And 1035 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,320 Speaker 1: and Lynch barely played. And I get it there's pressure 1036 00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,279 Speaker 1: involved that he's a first round pick, but he was 1037 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,640 Speaker 1: not close to already and I feel like it'd be weird, 1038 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,399 Speaker 1: uh to go to him as option one. It would 1039 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,399 Speaker 1: make more sense to me to go with the guy 1040 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,279 Speaker 1: that showed promise that that is in year two, and 1041 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,279 Speaker 1: then you bring in Lynch. If Simeon Falters and see 1042 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:55,960 Speaker 1: you can get a spark the other way around. I 1043 00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,799 Speaker 1: feel like it doesn't make much sense. I'm selling on it. 1044 00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:03,080 Speaker 1: I was really surprised to see this report as well, Mark, 1045 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,200 Speaker 1: especially because for what it's worth, it at ot as 1046 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:10,160 Speaker 1: it seems it sounded like Lynch wasn't playing. But I'm 1047 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:14,120 Speaker 1: gonna buy it anyways, because I kind of trust his 1048 00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,280 Speaker 1: instincts as someone that's there every day and is talking 1049 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:21,200 Speaker 1: to people, and it echoes something we did talk about 1050 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,520 Speaker 1: I think at the beginning of this offseason was the 1051 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,879 Speaker 1: tie goes to Lynch. So I think in all things 1052 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,000 Speaker 1: being equal, I do believe the front office and the 1053 00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,719 Speaker 1: coaching staff would like Lynch to win, and and someone 1054 00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:37,240 Speaker 1: that's there every day, watching and talking to people, maybe 1055 00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 1: maybe that is the truth that Look, if neither one 1056 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,560 Speaker 1: of these guys is going to stand out, I I 1057 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,840 Speaker 1: don't support it. I really think Simeon deserves a chance. 1058 00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 1: But if neither one stands way apart from the other, 1059 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 1: then than Lynch is the favorite. I'm also buying it 1060 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 1: because I trust the reporting. I mean, Kissler has been 1061 00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,200 Speaker 1: on target for years and years on this stuff, and 1062 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,840 Speaker 1: you have a first round investment on a quarterback Simeon 1063 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 1: I think overachieved last year compared to the fact that 1064 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,439 Speaker 1: no one knew who he was during that Super Bowl 1065 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,840 Speaker 1: week a couple of years ago. But my thing with Lynch, 1066 00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,680 Speaker 1: it's like all you hear over and over that he's 1067 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,759 Speaker 1: still been erratic, he's still been you know, far from 1068 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,120 Speaker 1: looking like a guarantee starting quarterback. So you have to 1069 00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:22,759 Speaker 1: see what happens. I think there's a lot of room 1070 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 1: for this to change. But if I think you're right, 1071 00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,480 Speaker 1: if they're even you obviously go with the higher pedigree. 1072 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,759 Speaker 1: The plan was to play him in year two, not 1073 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,080 Speaker 1: year three. But this is the exact time of year 1074 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,719 Speaker 1: where coaches are going to grasp onto anything positive with 1075 00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:39,319 Speaker 1: a young player like uh, Paxton Lynch and say, oh, yeah, 1076 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 1: he's looking great and you know, and then they're feeding 1077 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:43,680 Speaker 1: that to the media, even a guy that's plugged in 1078 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:48,200 Speaker 1: like this gentleman. Uh. You know. They're really interesting team, 1079 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 1: I think because of their championship pedigree, because they won 1080 00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,319 Speaker 1: twelve or thirteen games a year for four or streight years, 1081 00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,640 Speaker 1: because a lot of those players are still there. But 1082 00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 1: yet they're in this really good division and it could 1083 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,520 Speaker 1: go It could go either way. It could go south, 1084 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,279 Speaker 1: or they could win the division. Nothing with surprise. All right, 1085 00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:10,759 Speaker 1: next up, bye sell or Hold, it's time to start 1086 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:17,400 Speaker 1: talking kickers, Vick or Robbie. This ain't the bachelor Red? 1087 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,160 Speaker 1: Whose voice is that? Who's that you? That was Dan? 1088 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:34,280 Speaker 1: That's good, good job slily Uh, Robert, Roberto Aguayo and 1089 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,960 Speaker 1: Nick Folk? Of course, of course if you're following this, 1090 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:41,720 Speaker 1: and how can you not be following uh this uh competition, 1091 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,280 Speaker 1: there's no holds barred competition. Uh. Nick Folk got out 1092 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:48,440 Speaker 1: to a big early lead when he drilled all his 1093 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,400 Speaker 1: kicks in that with the uprights being closer together, and 1094 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,440 Speaker 1: then Robbie faltered. This is during O t a s well, 1095 00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:59,120 Speaker 1: guess what just when he counted out Robbie, he's back 1096 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:03,720 Speaker 1: in the race. Midway through practice. This according to General 1097 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,440 Speaker 1: and of ESPN. Midway through practice, both lined up for 1098 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,920 Speaker 1: five attempts, increasing the distance with each kick. Folk went 1099 00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,400 Speaker 1: first and made his first four attempts. His fifth and 1100 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 1: final kick from fifty four yards away bounced off the 1101 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:27,640 Speaker 1: right goal post. Uya went next. One, give me some dings, Sully, two, three, four, 1102 00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:32,919 Speaker 1: and from fifty four yards out five five for five 1103 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:38,160 Speaker 1: baby uh and then I so I want you to 1104 00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 1: listen to this quote from Dirk Cutter, who this is 1105 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:46,840 Speaker 1: an interesting thing for someone to say about any competition 1106 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,880 Speaker 1: in camp. Roberto got the best of it today. Look good, 1107 00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,320 Speaker 1: I mean Nick, nick lak good. I think we worked 1108 00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,320 Speaker 1: back to fifty four yards on that last one and 1109 00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,800 Speaker 1: uh Nix was a little bit short. Berto Berto hit 1110 00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:02,600 Speaker 1: five cleanland. So that's what camp is. Oh, I'm buying, baby, 1111 00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:08,919 Speaker 1: that this competition is neck and neck. I am buying right, Yeah, 1112 00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,080 Speaker 1: but don't dad. He is talking about it like like 1113 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:15,160 Speaker 1: he advance. I love that this is a daily thing. 1114 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,640 Speaker 1: I am buying it because they have waited so long 1115 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,919 Speaker 1: to be able to go to the reporters and say 1116 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:24,480 Speaker 1: something positive about this. It's it reminds me a lot 1117 00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 1: of what we just talked about. This is a second 1118 00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,640 Speaker 1: round draft pick who has been an absolute negative distraction. 1119 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,840 Speaker 1: Not a distraction, but in terms of the situation, it's 1120 00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,400 Speaker 1: a distraction for the Bucks to have to deal with someone. 1121 00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:40,800 Speaker 1: It's a high profile, large gaff scenario where he keeps 1122 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,880 Speaker 1: missing kicks and games. He's gonna probably maybe not even 1123 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,320 Speaker 1: make the team if he continues on the trajectory. So 1124 00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,640 Speaker 1: I am buying they want to see him succeed. And 1125 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,200 Speaker 1: if it were like it's the other one, if it's 1126 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:55,000 Speaker 1: a tie between Robbie and Nick, you go Robbie. You 1127 00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:56,520 Speaker 1: know what could happen, by the way, I didn't think 1128 00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,760 Speaker 1: of us until right now, would be a little uh anticlimactic. 1129 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,240 Speaker 1: With hard knocks coming up. They could end up keeping 1130 01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,680 Speaker 1: both because they're paying Nick anyway a large chunk of money. 1131 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,800 Speaker 1: And then you give Robbie the job and then maybe 1132 01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:12,680 Speaker 1: have Folks do kickoffs or something. And then if Robbie falters, 1133 01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:16,000 Speaker 1: you cut koff the way around what I could see 1134 01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,120 Speaker 1: that and then and then they get to kind of 1135 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,560 Speaker 1: play it by ear because you know, Nick Folk will 1136 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,840 Speaker 1: probably get picked up, I would think, because he is 1137 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,360 Speaker 1: an accurate veteran, and they don't definitely want to get 1138 01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,120 Speaker 1: you definitely want to give your second year second round 1139 01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,680 Speaker 1: kicker a nice red shirt year. That's the position that 1140 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,480 Speaker 1: you need to wait till year four or five to 1141 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,600 Speaker 1: get the real product, all right, And that was the 1142 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 1: latest Kicker update by the old zuser Folk. Second round 1143 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:56,200 Speaker 1: picks don't always get second chances, Greg. I'm gonna go 1144 01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 1: with all of the o t a a mini camp 1145 01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:08,080 Speaker 1: buzz on Adrian Peterson being sky high. When you listen 1146 01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:13,080 Speaker 1: to Drew Brees or the Saints talking about Adrian Peterson, 1147 01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:18,120 Speaker 1: it has been gushing. It has been we haven't seen 1148 01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:21,000 Speaker 1: a guy look this, you know, explosive, you know, players 1149 01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:25,480 Speaker 1: marveling over his burst and his stride lengthen and and 1150 01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:30,520 Speaker 1: Peterson himself just talking about that. You know, he would 1151 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,040 Speaker 1: be lying if you didn't take it his motivation that people, 1152 01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:34,760 Speaker 1: you know, think he was kind of done that no 1153 01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,439 Speaker 1: one wanted to sign him. And it's at the point 1154 01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,920 Speaker 1: now in New Orleans I think they're the the o 1155 01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:43,840 Speaker 1: t A mini camp storylines has raised the excitement and 1156 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:51,240 Speaker 1: the expectation level for Adrian Peterson this year buying and 1157 01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,000 Speaker 1: I'm not selling because I disrespect Adrian Peterson, and I 1158 01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:55,920 Speaker 1: don't want want West to hit me over the head 1159 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,720 Speaker 1: with a crowbar because I know he's very high and 1160 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:03,280 Speaker 1: Peter soon this year. But uh, I just think that 1161 01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,560 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, one of the more famous NFL players in 1162 01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:10,240 Speaker 1: the last twenty years, or certainly one of the most celebrated, 1163 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:14,520 Speaker 1: going to a new team and having this fresh start 1164 01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:16,720 Speaker 1: and still having something in the tank. I think he 1165 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,520 Speaker 1: has something in the tank. Is gonna lead to all this, 1166 01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,600 Speaker 1: all these type of dispatches in June, which is this 1167 01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:25,120 Speaker 1: guy looks better than ever, this guy is amazing, this 1168 01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,520 Speaker 1: guy is this, this guy is that. And I think 1169 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,960 Speaker 1: I still hold true to the point that, uh, he 1170 01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:34,040 Speaker 1: was beat up last year he won the rushing title, 1171 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:36,120 Speaker 1: but maybe he didn't have the same burst in his 1172 01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:39,040 Speaker 1: younger years the year before. He's thirty two years old. 1173 01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,520 Speaker 1: I think Peterson will be helpful for them, and I 1174 01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:45,040 Speaker 1: think he's going to potentially have another like twelve yard season. 1175 01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:47,560 Speaker 1: But do I think that he's going to be Adrian 1176 01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:49,720 Speaker 1: Peterson the way people are talking about him right now. 1177 01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,680 Speaker 1: I'm selling on that. Yeah, I'm selling too. I think 1178 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,600 Speaker 1: it's the way there's a way to sell on this 1179 01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:59,560 Speaker 1: without dismissing Adrian Peterson's upcoming regular season, which which I 1180 01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:03,200 Speaker 1: am all so thinking he can be Adrian Peterson of 1181 01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,920 Speaker 1: that we've seen of late. But the idea that everyone 1182 01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:10,520 Speaker 1: is seeing this vastly different player now in these practices, 1183 01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:12,680 Speaker 1: that that's what I'm selling on. Well, I'm I'm not 1184 01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,120 Speaker 1: buying that they're gonna They're talking a lot about that, 1185 01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna throw him the ball and we'll see that 1186 01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:18,920 Speaker 1: was one of my potential ones. I don't buy that 1187 01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 1: because you already have players in place too. Yeah, we'll 1188 01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,360 Speaker 1: see about that, But I am buying it. I just 1189 01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,280 Speaker 1: think this guy is one of the greatest players we've 1190 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,360 Speaker 1: ever seen, and he's playing on the Saints, is the 1191 01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:30,360 Speaker 1: main thing. But you're buying that. It's you're buying that 1192 01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,520 Speaker 1: he looks tangibly different than what the Vikings saw in 1193 01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:36,480 Speaker 1: previous maze. That just looks great, That he's that, that 1194 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,560 Speaker 1: he can be great, and and and it'll end up 1195 01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:43,560 Speaker 1: looking even better than he is because he's on that team. That. Yeah, 1196 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:47,080 Speaker 1: I'm getting a little excited about Adrian Peterson new Ry. 1197 01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:49,280 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be fun seeing at the super Dome 1198 01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,600 Speaker 1: and having this chip on the ship. That's all gonna 1199 01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:55,080 Speaker 1: be fun. It's will he be uh the best running 1200 01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:56,680 Speaker 1: back in the league still, which is how he's being 1201 01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,720 Speaker 1: talked up, uh frankly, And I don't know that seems 1202 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,440 Speaker 1: to be. I'm gonna get the ball enough for that. Uh. 1203 01:04:03,240 --> 01:04:09,440 Speaker 1: Next up, are you buying, selling or holding on Christian 1204 01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:17,680 Speaker 1: Hackenburgh's public execution by the local media New York. I 1205 01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,520 Speaker 1: cannot remember the last time a New York athlete has 1206 01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:22,920 Speaker 1: been treated this unfairly. And let me say something. I 1207 01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:26,440 Speaker 1: am not. I don't hold high hopes for Christian Hackenburg myself. 1208 01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,240 Speaker 1: I think that it was obviously a big Gina Smith. 1209 01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,960 Speaker 1: Yes he yes, he earned everything he got for the 1210 01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:39,920 Speaker 1: way he acted, including uh, you know, getting his jaw 1211 01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,160 Speaker 1: broken for being a jack in the locker room. But 1212 01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:45,520 Speaker 1: let's talk about Hackenburg right now. Uh. I know that 1213 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:49,320 Speaker 1: there the reports are bad, the anonymous reports about last season, 1214 01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:52,040 Speaker 1: we're bad. But this has been so unfair to this kid. 1215 01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:55,400 Speaker 1: What's happened this past week with all the reports, uh 1216 01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:59,680 Speaker 1: from real journalists, real sports writers doing reports on these 1217 01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:01,960 Speaker 1: path us, is that he's thrown that a bounced and 1218 01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,600 Speaker 1: hit reporters who by the way, and I am not 1219 01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that I'm the most mobile human being, 1220 01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,240 Speaker 1: but let's calm down, like, oh it hit a reporter. 1221 01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:13,200 Speaker 1: Maybe reporter is not moving too fast either a little 1222 01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:15,720 Speaker 1: slow and isn't able to get out of the way. Uh. 1223 01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:19,320 Speaker 1: And this is a situation where he's throwing these passes 1224 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:21,760 Speaker 1: and the Jets have done bad by him because the 1225 01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,000 Speaker 1: Jets don't know what they're doing right now and they've 1226 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,880 Speaker 1: gotten rid of everyone including Eric Decker. So he's throwing 1227 01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:28,880 Speaker 1: to a bunch of these kids that nobody knows who 1228 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:30,480 Speaker 1: half these guys are, and a lot of them are 1229 01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:32,880 Speaker 1: running bad routes and and so it's hard to really 1230 01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:34,760 Speaker 1: discern whether it was a really bad throw or a 1231 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,720 Speaker 1: really bad route. But everybody's going ahead because the Jets 1232 01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:41,840 Speaker 1: are back to laughing stock status, which is always it 1233 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:43,560 Speaker 1: seems to people kind of like that it's a little 1234 01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,040 Speaker 1: more fun when the Jets are bad. I get that, 1235 01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,720 Speaker 1: I understand that, but dragging him and making him the 1236 01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:50,040 Speaker 1: face of the Jets being a laughing stock of the 1237 01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:53,360 Speaker 1: league again, it just feels unfair and if and I 1238 01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:57,840 Speaker 1: worry that it's going to lead to uh him. I 1239 01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:59,720 Speaker 1: don't know how mentally strong the kid is, but it's 1240 01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,280 Speaker 1: going to lead to him having no shot here because 1241 01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,080 Speaker 1: he can't won't be able to block out just how 1242 01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,160 Speaker 1: much people believe him to be a joke before he's 1243 01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:12,080 Speaker 1: ever thrown an NFL pass. I am holding on Christian 1244 01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:15,840 Speaker 1: Hackenburg having any chance in the NFL, although I'm doubting it. 1245 01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold there. But I'm selling on this idea 1246 01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:21,280 Speaker 1: that he is so terrible that there's no reason why 1247 01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:23,720 Speaker 1: people should even take him seriously as a human being. 1248 01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,640 Speaker 1: I think it's a perfect place to use the hold 1249 01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:30,240 Speaker 1: because we've never seen this guy in a game, and 1250 01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,960 Speaker 1: some there are practice players, and there are players that 1251 01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,440 Speaker 1: look totally crazy and practice. Then the games begin and 1252 01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:38,280 Speaker 1: you hear about those guys all the time, and often 1253 01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:40,960 Speaker 1: it's applies they say to the quarterback position. I think 1254 01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:44,240 Speaker 1: there's really concerning reports because there's been a b line 1255 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,760 Speaker 1: and last year I don't think Hackenburg was being beaten 1256 01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:49,240 Speaker 1: up as the sort of the face of the Jets 1257 01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,120 Speaker 1: troubles the way he has this this spring, and that 1258 01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:53,600 Speaker 1: is unfair. I agree with you there, but there's never 1259 01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:55,960 Speaker 1: been like the month or two where it's like, you 1260 01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,320 Speaker 1: know what, Hackenburg, he showed some real good things today 1261 01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,760 Speaker 1: and where there actually does seem to some progress or 1262 01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:02,800 Speaker 1: he came back looking like a different player. It's been 1263 01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:07,000 Speaker 1: a beeline of uh terrifying reports about this this quarterback 1264 01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:10,360 Speaker 1: that said, until he's in a game, why judge him 1265 01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:12,640 Speaker 1: on what right? You can judge him on his college 1266 01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:15,880 Speaker 1: tape where he's one of the most inaccurate quarterbacks to 1267 01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,560 Speaker 1: ever be drafted in the first three rounds of the 1268 01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:22,680 Speaker 1: where he could not where, but but that's it's just 1269 01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:27,200 Speaker 1: such a it's such a basic function of playing the position, 1270 01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:31,360 Speaker 1: just accuracy. And these are practices where you can't really 1271 01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:34,960 Speaker 1: take much away from him because it's supposed to be easy. Uh, 1272 01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,880 Speaker 1: it's all scripted there. You know, you can't even do 1273 01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:40,320 Speaker 1: one on ones. I mean, there's so many restrictions you can't. 1274 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:43,480 Speaker 1: It's really not football, but it's it's built for the 1275 01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:47,520 Speaker 1: offense on a lot of these plays to run fairly smoothly. 1276 01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:49,800 Speaker 1: And I think the problem he gets picked on because 1277 01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:51,720 Speaker 1: there's blood in the water and they just want to 1278 01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:55,240 Speaker 1: be vicious. And there's forty reporters there, so you know, 1279 01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:57,360 Speaker 1: the people have to say some things to get noticed. 1280 01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:01,120 Speaker 1: But it's also because there's no defenders there and he 1281 01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,160 Speaker 1: and he just misses a lot of throws, which I 1282 01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,160 Speaker 1: don't think you're normally used to see. Well, a year 1283 01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,000 Speaker 1: ago it was r G three that was throwing the 1284 01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:10,600 Speaker 1: football I don't know in houses and stuff, and so 1285 01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,120 Speaker 1: maybe and and it went on to be the RG 1286 01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:16,280 Speaker 1: three was an absolute but that was r G three 1287 01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:19,280 Speaker 1: in steep decline for a period of three years, so 1288 01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:21,240 Speaker 1: everyone kind of knew he was done. And then people 1289 01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:27,400 Speaker 1: were piling on never even may have no ascension. It's unfair, 1290 01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:29,639 Speaker 1: but it's not surprising. I don't even I'm not sure 1291 01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:32,519 Speaker 1: what buying nor selling in this one even means. Just 1292 01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:41,200 Speaker 1: buying it well, you're a monster. Um, we'll see what 1293 01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:43,760 Speaker 1: happens with young Christian Hackenburgh. That's my point. You're a 1294 01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:46,960 Speaker 1: once you you're a professional and you're in games and 1295 01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,479 Speaker 1: you stink. Part of the gig is if you can 1296 01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:51,160 Speaker 1: get buried, and that's that's part of the job. But 1297 01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:52,840 Speaker 1: before you've done it, That's what I'm saying. It is. 1298 01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:57,280 Speaker 1: It is an unbelievably unfair, tough situation to think about 1299 01:08:57,320 --> 01:08:59,360 Speaker 1: the fact that these O t A s, which normally 1300 01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:02,080 Speaker 1: like is when it cared out about and people are 1301 01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:05,400 Speaker 1: doing grades, come back to us. People that have done 1302 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:09,560 Speaker 1: grades on the O t A S, well it is 1303 01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:11,800 Speaker 1: it is give me a breakworthy. But I'm sure for 1304 01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:13,760 Speaker 1: them it's like you've got to pump out three or 1305 01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:16,760 Speaker 1: four stories and this is what they all do. That 1306 01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:18,720 Speaker 1: job is a little different than what we're able to 1307 01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,960 Speaker 1: do with with with with our role, like the good one, 1308 01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:24,799 Speaker 1: there's plenty of good ones that don't don't go crazy 1309 01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,840 Speaker 1: on that stuff. I will not do a secite. I 1310 01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,280 Speaker 1: have a couple of ones. Yeah you didn't do no, 1311 01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:32,639 Speaker 1: but I'm enjoying the it's one of your second ones. 1312 01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,880 Speaker 1: The Shan Kaiser. No, why don't you take us down 1313 01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,479 Speaker 1: that road? Then I'll take a similar couple. Yeah, all right, 1314 01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:41,920 Speaker 1: we really gotta Yeah, we're gonta. Let's do a speed round. 1315 01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:45,400 Speaker 1: Let's do a speeders. Sean Kaiser getting more buzz as 1316 01:09:45,439 --> 01:09:48,160 Speaker 1: a potential starter, and I will just say I am 1317 01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:50,840 Speaker 1: buying it. I like what I hear listening to the kid, 1318 01:09:51,360 --> 01:09:53,400 Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's really based. It's not 1319 01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:55,400 Speaker 1: based on how he's looked. I haven't seen that. It's 1320 01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:57,519 Speaker 1: just based on I think the Browns are giving him 1321 01:09:57,560 --> 01:09:59,640 Speaker 1: a real chance. I think they want him to have 1322 01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:01,840 Speaker 1: a real chance to win this job. Until I'm buying. 1323 01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,760 Speaker 1: I'm buying too, because the Browns, like the Jets and 1324 01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:06,759 Speaker 1: all other teams that are looking ahead to that loaded 1325 01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,120 Speaker 1: quarterback class, they need to find out what they have 1326 01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,320 Speaker 1: in Deshaun Kazer before they decide whether they want to 1327 01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,640 Speaker 1: draft another quarterback early in the first round. So they 1328 01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:17,559 Speaker 1: got to find out. Yeah, tweeted this morning, I think 1329 01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:19,439 Speaker 1: he'll be the Week one starter, and it's not I'm 1330 01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:21,280 Speaker 1: not at their practice, but it just seems like this 1331 01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:23,920 Speaker 1: sort of trending that way. If he is competent and 1332 01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:28,360 Speaker 1: so totally buying it, Mark all Right, A lot of Niners. 1333 01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,080 Speaker 1: A lot of people think the Niners are gonna be 1334 01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:32,920 Speaker 1: big trash heap next year, or maybe just a little 1335 01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:34,839 Speaker 1: bit better. But there is a part of their defense. 1336 01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,519 Speaker 1: I think that defensive line is interesting to Forrest Buckner 1337 01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,479 Speaker 1: said that our front seven can be dominant this year. 1338 01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:43,600 Speaker 1: If you look at the pieces in place, there is 1339 01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:47,559 Speaker 1: potential buying, selling or holding. Why would you hold here? 1340 01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:51,599 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold because then you do it. I'm gonna 1341 01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,080 Speaker 1: hold because I do think if you look at all 1342 01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:56,120 Speaker 1: the pieces there, they got a lot of players like 1343 01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,800 Speaker 1: they're gonna cut some pretty good players there, So I 1344 01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,760 Speaker 1: think they could be down by there's the first time coordinator, 1345 01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:04,840 Speaker 1: Robert Sala. It's a lot of moving parts in different 1346 01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:07,760 Speaker 1: spots than they were really drafted for. So I'm not sure, 1347 01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:09,680 Speaker 1: but I think there's a potential. I guess that means 1348 01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:16,240 Speaker 1: I'm buying it. I'm selling the two thousand seventeen might 1349 01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:23,360 Speaker 1: be better, but they won't be dominant at any French, Dominant, 1350 01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:27,160 Speaker 1: Eric Armstead, Solomon, A lot of people Solomon Thomas would 1351 01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:31,200 Speaker 1: come out as the best dominant. He said, dominant. It'll 1352 01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:37,920 Speaker 1: be fine, Okay, Buckner, Thomas, Armstead, Navarro Bowman, Ruben Foster. 1353 01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,760 Speaker 1: That's fine, they'll be fine. Sexy could be dominant. Well 1354 01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:46,920 Speaker 1: you're buying, so yeah, all right, that's it. By the way, 1355 01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:50,400 Speaker 1: mark before we go, I want to make sure, um, 1356 01:11:51,240 --> 01:11:53,120 Speaker 1: we'll give you the stage for a second here, because 1357 01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:56,120 Speaker 1: you wanted to get something out there. It isn't it 1358 01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:59,880 Speaker 1: isn't exactly a or you kidding me, But it's sub 1359 01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:01,800 Speaker 1: that you wanted to get off your chest. Nor is 1360 01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:04,720 Speaker 1: it critical, nor is it critical or is it news? 1361 01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:06,880 Speaker 1: But I would think everyone wants to hear what you 1362 01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:10,160 Speaker 1: you want to talk about. I was wandering around the 1363 01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:12,120 Speaker 1: building today and I don't know who this person was 1364 01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:14,040 Speaker 1: because they work on a different floor. It seems like 1365 01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:16,479 Speaker 1: a nice person in general, but it was a a 1366 01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,960 Speaker 1: late thirty early forties something male who used the in 1367 01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:24,160 Speaker 1: conversation the term awesome sauce and it's it kind of 1368 01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:27,439 Speaker 1: is another one of these phrases that a if you're 1369 01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:30,080 Speaker 1: if you're that person, you shouldn't ever be using that 1370 01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:34,360 Speaker 1: phrase at all, sit down, exactly, find a new way 1371 01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:36,439 Speaker 1: to say what you're about to say. Grow up, Peter 1372 01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:40,160 Speaker 1: Pan exactly. You're you're so far out of where you 1373 01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:42,040 Speaker 1: need to be by using that. But then there's a 1374 01:12:42,080 --> 01:12:44,160 Speaker 1: couple other phrases that came to mind that as we 1375 01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,759 Speaker 1: get into the summer, and this is when this jargon 1376 01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,120 Speaker 1: starts to light up. Sometimes it's time to put some 1377 01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,680 Speaker 1: of this to bed. And this is this is a 1378 01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:54,160 Speaker 1: language update, and people don't have to agree with me, 1379 01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:56,679 Speaker 1: but I'm not going to be using this word, these words, 1380 01:12:56,720 --> 01:13:00,080 Speaker 1: these phrases. Yes, Queen, that is old. Now enough we 1381 01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,160 Speaker 1: get it. Okay, this was nice a few months ago, 1382 01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:05,920 Speaker 1: yas queen, no longer burying it whatever months years. I 1383 01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:09,200 Speaker 1: don't want to hear about it again. That is gone. 1384 01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:12,160 Speaker 1: How about this tote? How about this totes? As in it? 1385 01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:16,680 Speaker 1: You know, doesn't that suck? Gemma? Yeah? Totes? Well no, no, 1386 01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:18,960 Speaker 1: done more totes. I feel like that's a big sell. 1387 01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:20,719 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of these terms are gonna 1388 01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:23,080 Speaker 1: be sully terms. Well, no, don't throw me under the bus. 1389 01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:27,360 Speaker 1: You can. You can weigh in after I'm finished that 1390 01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:31,080 Speaker 1: totes is out? Anyone, all right? Anyone, and this most 1391 01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:33,800 Speaker 1: people are aware that they're not Coolio, It's there are 1392 01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:36,680 Speaker 1: still I still hear this sometimes. I still think I 1393 01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:38,920 Speaker 1: still hear it once in a while, and it's typically 1394 01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:42,280 Speaker 1: from white males, and it's un ironically used and it 1395 01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,160 Speaker 1: needs to stop right now, Julio is like, no one 1396 01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:49,960 Speaker 1: talked about sense the higher learning. I think that of 1397 01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:52,320 Speaker 1: the population understands this rule. But I have heard it 1398 01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:55,960 Speaker 1: in the streets of l A. It was the dangerous minds. Okay, 1399 01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,200 Speaker 1: am I right? When it's spelled this one word? Enough 1400 01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,920 Speaker 1: with that? All right? Yeah, it wasn't funny then not funny. 1401 01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,080 Speaker 1: Now it's not even helping. It's not even that much 1402 01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:08,000 Speaker 1: shorter when you're typing Bay, okay, saying things like Greg 1403 01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:10,840 Speaker 1: is Bay. That was stupid to begin with and I'm 1404 01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:15,679 Speaker 1: not into that, and I don't Bay are correct. It's 1405 01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:18,920 Speaker 1: used in many different ways. You can I think it's 1406 01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:22,519 Speaker 1: you can find that that you can salt bay. That 1407 01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:25,360 Speaker 1: usage is right, It is correct. Yes, thank you, thank you, 1408 01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:30,160 Speaker 1: because I when I read this, this absolutely thank This 1409 01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,280 Speaker 1: is how I read this stuff sometimes, and it's like 1410 01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:35,479 Speaker 1: enough already Greg is a good guy. Greg, It's not Bay. 1411 01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:40,200 Speaker 1: I mean alright, anyone's still calling things lit that died 1412 01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,880 Speaker 1: a hard death in two thousand sixteen, and it gets 1413 01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:47,040 Speaker 1: lingering on again, and typically amongst clunky white males, and 1414 01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:49,920 Speaker 1: finally a f as in this party is lit as 1415 01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:53,080 Speaker 1: Like when that is, I'm done with that terminology and 1416 01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:56,840 Speaker 1: writing to Okay, that seems like a millennial shot a 1417 01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,920 Speaker 1: little bit, I think, although it is dead though, because 1418 01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,240 Speaker 1: I just saw that on like a billboard for like 1419 01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:05,760 Speaker 1: an advertisement or maybe a movie using a F and 1420 01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:08,000 Speaker 1: and I and I thought seeing that was like, oh, 1421 01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:10,800 Speaker 1: that's done. That's the same millennials. I'm not killing them 1422 01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:13,240 Speaker 1: at all. It's the reverse. They've moved beyond a lot 1423 01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:15,479 Speaker 1: of this crap. It's it filters up to the older, 1424 01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:18,760 Speaker 1: clunky people still using this phraseology. I don't even know 1425 01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,519 Speaker 1: if the I'll add one more if you don't mind, 1426 01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:23,280 Speaker 1: please do. I like your list a lot. And I 1427 01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:26,040 Speaker 1: didn't even know this was a thing, but on Friday 1428 01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,599 Speaker 1: in my neighborhood, you know, you put out the garbage 1429 01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:32,920 Speaker 1: cans on Thursday night and then the trash guy comes 1430 01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:36,200 Speaker 1: on Friday and there's three different pickups. You got the 1431 01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:39,200 Speaker 1: trash can? Uh, Jack knows it is that that's where 1432 01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:41,880 Speaker 1: the stinky diapers go. And then you get the blue bin, 1433 01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,560 Speaker 1: which is for recyclables in the green bin um for 1434 01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,800 Speaker 1: you know, tree clippings and things of that nature. And 1435 01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:51,080 Speaker 1: for the first time ever, the guy didn't come to 1436 01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:54,040 Speaker 1: pick up the black bin, which is the most important 1437 01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,760 Speaker 1: bin of the three is number one. You gotta take 1438 01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,600 Speaker 1: away the black bin with the stinky diapers. Uh. So 1439 01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:03,880 Speaker 1: I all the Sanitation Department of Los Angeles and I said, hey, bro, 1440 01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm angry af come come get my garbage can. And 1441 01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:12,120 Speaker 1: they were They were cool about it, and they came by. 1442 01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:14,479 Speaker 1: They said, oh, we'll be there on Tuesday. So I 1443 01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,080 Speaker 1: saw the other black can in my neighbor said next 1444 01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:19,720 Speaker 1: next next door still out there, said oh, you know, 1445 01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,800 Speaker 1: shoot this guy little heads up, say hey, Lee, don't 1446 01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,720 Speaker 1: bring your canon. They're gonna come on tuesday. And he 1447 01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:28,519 Speaker 1: came out. He's like, oh, thanks, Bro, thanks a lot, 1448 01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:36,760 Speaker 1: thanks for the knowledge. Oh no, maybe just maybe that's 1449 01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:39,880 Speaker 1: not maybe that's not a thing. And he's just a 1450 01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,439 Speaker 1: little but he doesn't know how to pronounce knowledge. He 1451 01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:45,400 Speaker 1: just never knew that the that the k was silence 1452 01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:49,080 Speaker 1: around our age again, it's a round our age. No, no, Okay, 1453 01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:50,639 Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm sure he's not listening to the show. 1454 01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:54,919 Speaker 1: Hopefully too. But yeah, that's that's a troubling one. Knowledge. 1455 01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:57,040 Speaker 1: It's like something Andy Bernard would say on the office. 1456 01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:00,479 Speaker 1: So if that's the thing that other people are doing, 1457 01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:04,679 Speaker 1: probably you know, don't lean into that one anymore. Okay, Jesus, 1458 01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:08,320 Speaker 1: there's a long podcast. All right. We'll be back on Friday. 1459 01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:12,320 Speaker 1: Will be our last UM show the week obviously, but 1460 01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:15,280 Speaker 1: also the last time we'll do three shows until minicamps, 1461 01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:19,080 Speaker 1: so we'll have some fun. What's so funny? Oh? Is there? 1462 01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:22,879 Speaker 1: I looked up it. I looked it up on Urban Dictionary, 1463 01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,560 Speaker 1: and I do have to use um the example that 1464 01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:29,080 Speaker 1: that they wrote for it. Did you know that Shanna 1465 01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:31,760 Speaker 1: slept with Haven and got her pies? Thanks for the 1466 01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:35,519 Speaker 1: car knowledge? I almost did here. That all checks out. 1467 01:17:39,720 --> 01:17:41,320 Speaker 1: I guess I'll give them a little credit that it's 1468 01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:44,040 Speaker 1: showing up on Urban Dictionary. Oh, there's a lot on 1469 01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:48,200 Speaker 1: urban See that's a perfect time for that to be 1470 01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:52,200 Speaker 1: a popular word. All right, we will be back on Friday. 1471 01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:54,599 Speaker 1: As I said, uh, make sure give me one second 1472 01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:58,439 Speaker 1: or something. Make sure you uh continue to leave comments 1473 01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,880 Speaker 1: and star ratings for the podcast. That means a lot 1474 01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:05,519 Speaker 1: to keep us moving up the old charts over on iTunes. 1475 01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:08,080 Speaker 1: They have a very strange system, but that means a lot. 1476 01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:10,240 Speaker 1: So thank you and those of us, those of you 1477 01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:11,800 Speaker 1: that have reached out to me, say what happened to 1478 01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:16,120 Speaker 1: the five thousand listeners celebration or five thousand the redditor celebration. 1479 01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,000 Speaker 1: We'll get to that once we get to the dark period. Uh, 1480 01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:22,800 Speaker 1: we will uh you know, finish off that contest. We'll 1481 01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:25,400 Speaker 1: find out some type of prize. So don't worry. It's 1482 01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:27,360 Speaker 1: not it has not slipped through the cracks. Right around 1483 01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:30,280 Speaker 1: the time that we filed donations for the forked teams 1484 01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:33,400 Speaker 1: that we were incorrect about exactly, well, yeah, we'll get 1485 01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:35,439 Speaker 1: to that too. Uh So there you go. All right. 1486 01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:41,920 Speaker 1: So well he's like, get I'm happy Sully came back. Okay, 1487 01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:45,640 Speaker 1: stand hands is signing off for the Sizzler. Uh, the 1488 01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:49,479 Speaker 1: Old Boss and Shawny Sullivan Invincible behind the Glass till 1489 01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:50,000 Speaker 1: Friday