1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Ooh, welcome in now hour number two, two weeks from 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: election day. Thanks for hanging with us here on Clay 3 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: and Buck. Bottom of the hour. Like I said, we're 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: going to head up to Michigan, battleground state where Mike 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: Rodgers is putting a real fight to flip a formerly 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: Democrat seat no incumbent there. We will discuss that at 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour. We'll take some of your 8 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: calls eight hundred. 9 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: And two two two eight eight two. But Buck, I 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: wanted to hit you with a couple of things. 11 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: One, Atlanta Journal Constitution just released its final poll. 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 2: Has Trump up four. 13 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: They've been pretty accurate in polling with the Atlanta Journal 14 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: Constitution of what's going on in Georgia. So I thought 15 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: that was interesting that they now have Trump basically outside 16 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: the margin of error in Georgia. But what stood out 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: to me was only twenty eight percent of men in 18 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: Georgia are voting for Kamala Harris twenty eight percent. 19 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 3: Buck. 20 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: And this squares with things that I have been seeing 21 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,320 Speaker 1: all over the South as I've been on my college 22 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: football tour as I usually do. The number of guys 23 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: out there who insult other guys by saying you're a 24 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: Kamala voter, I think is real. And the margin in 25 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: male vote not only for white guys, but also black guys, 26 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: Asian guys, Hispanic guys, I think is setting up for 27 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: a historic magnitude. I just don't think that many normal 28 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: dudes are willing to vote Kamala. 29 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:43,119 Speaker 2: I really don't. 30 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: Now we'll see how accurate I am in that assessment, 31 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: but that number jumped out to me. Fifty nine to 32 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: twenty eight. Trump was winning with I guess what's the 33 00:01:55,320 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: undecided vote there a relatively small percentage. Trump is winning 34 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: men by thirty one in the state of Georgia. If 35 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: Trump is winning men by that much in Georgia, let 36 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 1: me just say it, he's winning men by a lot 37 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: in North Carolina too. And those two states. If he 38 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:20,839 Speaker 1: wins Georgia and North Carolina, Arizona's looking really good too. 39 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: All he's got to do is win one of Michigan, Wisconsin, 40 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: or Pennsylvania. And it's all she wrote. And so I 41 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: think that's why you're starting to see panic. Trump has 42 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: got multiple pathways to victory. It's starting to feel like 43 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: Kamala's only pathway is she has to sweep Michigan Pennsylvania 44 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: and Wisconsin and then also win Omaha. Hey, by the way, 45 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: WFAB listeners, you guys could control that as well. That 46 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: is the only pathway I feel like Kamala has right now. 47 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: And what's extraordinary about this, Buck, and I saw you 48 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: share it too. But everybody listening to us, I think 49 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: gets at least a deis an idea of what's going 50 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: on in the media, because we tried to play left 51 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: wing and right wing, whatever perspective it is. Let you 52 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: know how people are talking. You watch MSNBC, I read 53 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: the Washington Post in the New York Times every day. 54 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: We're always citing these different organizations. This was unbelievable to me, 55 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 1: even with my knowledge of how biased legacy media has become. 56 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: CBS News which. 57 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: Will still not release the sixty minutes transcript, And we're 58 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: going to get to that in a minute, because I 59 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: want to discuss that with you, Buck. But this was 60 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: Nora O'Donnell, who was one of the impartial moderators of 61 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: the debate between JD Vance and Tim Walls. Here is 62 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: how she described the election, Kamala Harris on the campaign 63 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: trail and Donald Trump on the campaign trail. Imagine that 64 00:03:57,040 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: you're still one of those Americans who trust the evening 65 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: news to let you know what's going on. Listen to 66 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: this forty two test second clip of CBS News. This 67 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: is supposed to be down the middle, non partisan news coverage. 68 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 2: Listen. 69 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 4: A selection day is just over two weeks away, and 70 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 4: the fight for every single last undecided vote in battleground 71 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 4: states is intensifying. Vice President Kamala Harris's targeting disaffected Republican 72 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 4: voters by hitting the trail with Liz Cheney in the 73 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 4: crucial blue wall states of Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Cheney 74 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 4: was a powerful Republican congresswoman, and today she called Harris 75 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 4: a responsible adult. As for former President Donald Trump, he 76 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 4: was back in North Carolina again pushing false claims about 77 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,799 Speaker 4: FEMA and immigrants. That's after he spent the weekends slinging 78 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 4: a crude insult at Harris, engaging in lewd locker room 79 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 4: talk about the late golfing legend Arnold Palmer, and staging 80 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 4: a campaign stunt at a Pennsylvania McDonald's. 81 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 5: Okay, wait, wait, hey, Clay Clay, if you took that 82 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 5: exact transcript and add any MSNBC opinion host in Primetime 83 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 5: start their show with it. 84 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: Nobody would notice any difference whatsoever. 85 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 6: Meaning the editorial line of CBS Evening News is that's. 86 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 2: What at CBS Evening. I don't watch any of this stuff. 87 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 3: I don't know why. 88 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 2: Why does anyone watch these people? Nora O'Donnell is an actress, 89 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: She knows nothing. Margaret Brennan at CBS, these are actresses. 90 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 2: They don't know anything. You don't know. They are paid 91 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,679 Speaker 2: to look a certain way and read other people's words 92 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: off a screen. 93 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 6: It is completely unimpressive and it is propaganda. Why does 94 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 6: the answer to why people watch it is because they've 95 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 6: been programmed to be comfortable with this, and it's like 96 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 6: a propaganda feedback loop. Like I know the answer to it, Clay, 97 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 6: But that was pretty stunning, right, I mean, the way 98 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 6: that the editorial is injected into what's supposed to be 99 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 6: a newsread it's it. 100 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: I think it's so important to play things like that 101 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: because there are lots of people that just don't know 102 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: Buck and I think one of the real powers of 103 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: Trump as we look back at his era, because whatever 104 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: you think of Trump, the era from twenty fifteen when 105 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: he came down the escalator to twenty twenty four, as 106 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: we sit here two weeks away from the election, it 107 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: really has proven how legacy media destroyed itself because they 108 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: tried to claim that they were impartial and right down 109 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: the middle. And as soon as you spend any time 110 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: at all looking at this you recognize just how much 111 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: BS it is. And I don't know that they can 112 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: ever recover. I really don't. And I think this election, 113 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: if it goes the way you and I think it's 114 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: going to go, is in many ways going to be 115 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: the end of legacy media. 116 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: I saw a data. 117 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: Point come out, I believe it was from Gallup that 118 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: said sixty nine percent of people don't trust media. I 119 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: did a comedian podcast yesterday, guy named John Christ, really 120 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: talented comedian, but we got into a discussion and I 121 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: would say this, and I think I've said it on 122 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: the show before, but if I were advising any politician 123 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: in America, I would say, if your entire interview is 124 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: not airing, you shouldn't do it. We post a transcript 125 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 1: every single day. I think still of every word that 126 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: is said on this program, every guest, everything you say, 127 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: everything I say, you can go back and you can 128 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: look at the whole thing. It's all live and it's 129 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: not taped, it's not edited. CBS sixty Minutes, which is 130 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: supposed to be the most trusted source in news, has 131 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: completely lit itself on fire. They interviewed Kamala Harris for 132 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: forty five minutes, buck they only aired twenty minutes of it, 133 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: and they refuse to release the transcript of the other 134 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: twenty five minutes. What are they covering up and hiding 135 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: in her benefit? And if you're out there saying they 136 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: would never cover up and hide anything, I would point 137 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: out to you that today is the four year anniversary 138 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: of the Trump White House Leslie Stall interview where he said, Hey, 139 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: you guys are pretending the Hunter Biden laptop doesn't exist. 140 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: Listen to this splashback sixty minutes, four years of lighting 141 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: itself on fire. This was Leslie Stall and Trump four 142 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: years ago today, cut seven. 143 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 7: It's the biggest scandal out there, Leslie. And you think 144 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 7: it's the biggest issue to campaign. I think it's I 145 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 7: think it's one of the biggest scandals I've ever seen. 146 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 7: And you don't cover it. You want to talk about it, well, 147 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 7: because it can't. 148 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 4: You want to talk. 149 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 7: About insignificant things I'm telling you, of course, it can 150 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 7: be verified. They found the laptop, Leslie, listen verified what 151 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 7: can't be verified the laptop? Why you said that even 152 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 7: the family hasn't the family on the laptop. He's gone 153 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 7: into hiding for five days. 154 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 2: He's got into hiding. 155 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 7: He's prepared for your debate. Oh, it's taken him five 156 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 7: days to prepare. 157 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 3: I doubt it. 158 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 2: I doubt it, Okay. 159 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: And then buck cut eight is they had to release 160 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: the entire thing because they take their own interview because 161 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: sixty minutes wasn't going to air it. 162 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: Here is cut eight. 163 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 7: The biggest scandal was when they spied on my campaign. 164 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 7: They spied at my campaign. Of course, there is a 165 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 7: tolf of the place, Leslie. They spied at my campaign 166 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 7: and they got hold. 167 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 5: You know, this is sixty minutes, and we can't put 168 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 5: on things. 169 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 7: We can't you open it up because it's bad for Biden, can't, Leslie. 170 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 7: They spied on my campaign. It's been totally verified. It's 171 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 7: been so don't to get the papers. In spite of 172 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 7: my campaign. They got caught. And then they went much 173 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 7: further than that, and they got caught. And you will 174 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 7: see that, Leslie, and you know that, but you just 175 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 7: don't want to put another As a matter of fact, 176 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 7: I don't know that. Okay, why don't you get back 177 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 7: to your interview? 178 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: I mean sixty minutes buck. How is it that they 179 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: can claim that it's not journalistically proper to share everything 180 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: that Kamala Harris said in her forty five minute interview. 181 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: If the entire goal of their interview is to make 182 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: voters more informed, wouldn't you want every opinion that she 183 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: has to be discussed, disseminated and analyzed by voters so 184 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: they can determine whether or not she's qualified. If that 185 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: were the real goal, there's no way to defend refusing 186 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: to release a transcript. 187 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,599 Speaker 6: Yeah, the goal of the legacy media networks is to 188 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 6: get Kamala Harris selected. 189 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: That's the goal. 190 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 6: I mean, you know that, I know that, but I 191 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 6: think it just is worth saying it, saying it out loud. 192 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 6: Journalism doesn't really exist anymore, and the version of journalism 193 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 6: that we were raised with and that a lot of 194 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 6: people were raised with right now, was always at some 195 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 6: level of fiction. This is a whole other part of 196 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 6: the conversation, but it has never been objective. 197 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: It was less rapidly. 198 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 6: Left wing perhaps in the past, but it has always 199 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 6: been Democrat aligned and left of center. It's just gotten crazier, 200 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 6: particularly the last twenty years, than we've ever seen it before. 201 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean they they want. I said this 202 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 6: at the time when you had David Weir being a 203 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 6: debate opponent to Donald Trump in that debate with Kamala Harris. 204 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 6: While he got a lot of public repudiation for it, 205 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 6: the truth is he helped his career. The next contract 206 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 6: that he signs at c ABC is going to be 207 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 6: rock solid and maybe you know some extra you know, 208 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 6: an extra zero on there or something, you know what 209 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 6: I mean. They're gonna take good care of him because 210 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 6: he did what he's supposed to do according to the 211 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 6: people in charge. And the whole thing about this being 212 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 6: about journalism and somehow informing the public is a con 213 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 6: it's a lie, and they have tried everything they can 214 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 6: with Kamala Harris. It is remarkable, though, I think Clay, 215 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 6: there's almost with the media, there's a lack of connection 216 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 6: to what Norton did you see this? This is a 217 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 6: perfect example. I was sort of stumbling into this as 218 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 6: I said this, or I am reminded of this as 219 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 6: I say it. There was a New Yorker staffer who 220 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 6: wrote something recently. You know, The New Yorker is like 221 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 6: what people who think they're fancy and New York read, 222 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 6: but it's communist propaganda. And he says he hasn't met 223 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 6: a Trump voter in like ten years. This is what 224 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 6: a guy actually says, how is that? How is that possible? 225 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 6: Or he hasn't met a Republican in fifteen years? 226 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 2: I forget what it was, something in sane. The guy 227 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 2: lives in New York City. 228 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 6: I think he said in fifteen years, he hasn't met 229 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 6: anybody who was a Republican or something like that near 230 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 6: something crazy, And I'm sure he's exaggerating, but the point 231 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,559 Speaker 6: is they have no idea what normal people think, because 232 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:06,359 Speaker 6: you're abnormal. 233 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: Also, if you're a reporter in any way and your 234 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: circle is that cloistered such that you don't interact with 235 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: half the country, that's not some sort of badge of 236 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 1: honor for you. It just proves how outside of the 237 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: mainstream you actually are, that you can't even comprehend how 238 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: half the country is a living And again I'm putting 239 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: myself on the line here a little bit. And I've 240 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: been wrong before, but I think Trump's gonna win the 241 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: popular vote. I think He's gonna get more votes than Kamala. 242 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: If you guys keep showing up and keep driving turnout 243 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: like is happening right now? 244 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I think. I think this is what we're 245 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 6: seeing and this is where it's all heading. 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Find them on 272 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 8: the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 273 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 6: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We got Mike Rogers 274 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 6: coming up here in just a few minutes, so we'll 275 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 6: we talk to him about his very important race. Remember 276 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 6: we talk a lot about the presidency here obviously, and 277 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 6: the Senate we've been focused on. We had Clan Buck 278 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 6: Senate Day yesterday. We had the dew senators on Cotton, 279 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 6: Rubio and Scott, and we had a great conversation with 280 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 6: each of them about the races they're in. Hey, Floridians, 281 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 6: excuse me, excuse me, where are you on this Rick 282 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 6: Scott race? Got to get out there and make sure 283 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 6: that our guy gets across the finish line. 284 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 3: Here. 285 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: I think Trump is looking great. They're going to be 286 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 2: split ticket voters. 287 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 6: I certainly hope not, because what you're just you're going 288 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 6: against yourself, right, Clay. It's like, if you're gonna bet 289 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 6: on I don't know, Alabama, you don't want to also 290 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 6: bet on the other team that they're playing, right, because 291 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 6: what are you doing? 292 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: You gotta place your bet and go with it. 293 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 6: If you're betting on Trump, you've got to bet on 294 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 6: Rick Scott and stay you know, not split that ticket, 295 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 6: stay along party lines. So we'll we'll dive into some 296 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 6: of this here in a moment with with Mike Rogers. 297 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 6: But Clay, I wanted to get some of our VIP 298 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 6: mail bags. I mentioned that, you know, I think it's Mississippi, 299 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 6: Alabama and New Hampshire don't have across the board early voting, 300 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 6: and now we're getting everyon ready, agin But there is summer. Yes, 301 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 6: I know, there's some of them have specific absentee voting 302 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 6: that you can do by mail. You have to you know, 303 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 6: you have to know what the voting is in your state. 304 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 6: We can't go through every and Bruce writes in Alabama 305 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 6: does have in person early absentee voting. I'm going to 306 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 6: vote today because I'll be out of town for work 307 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 6: on election day. It's it's easy tell people to go 308 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 6: do it. Okay, So there's like a step you have 309 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 6: to vote absentee and you have to sort of qualify 310 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 6: or do that point being, figure out what is the 311 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 6: law in your state about when you can vote, and 312 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 6: vote as soon within that framework as you possibly can, right, 313 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 6: I mean, that's that would be the advice. 314 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: Amen, Get out there, vote, add on more steam. We 315 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: are rolling great turnout in so many different battlegrounds out there, 316 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 1: and Buck when we come back with Mike Rogers, it 317 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: will build on what you were just saying. 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Fourteen days until the election. 348 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: We go up now to Michigan, my wife's home state. 349 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: I was just there a couple of weeks ago, and 350 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: I saw many of this man's ads running during football 351 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: games I was watching. He is Mike Rodgers and he 352 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: is running for Senate in Michigan. Mike, we appreciate you 353 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: taking the time. Where are you in the state right now? 354 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: And what are you seeing? Two weeks from election day? 355 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 3: So we're seeing tons of momentum. I'm in a town 356 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 3: called Okamus, Michigan. We're having a bit of an event 357 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 3: today with a large industry here in all their employees 358 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 3: and listen, we're just seeing a ton of momentum. People 359 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 3: are starting to come home and so that's why you 360 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 3: see all the polls tightening, and they're starting to realize 361 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 3: that the Democrats are just in the kind of implosion mode. 362 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 3: My opponent has now thought that Trump was the end 363 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 3: of democracy. Now talking about Trump and her campaign ads, 364 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 3: it just tells you the direction that they're going and 365 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 3: how far I'll go to say just about anything to 366 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 3: get elected. And I think that is actually helping us 367 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 3: Amongst independents. We're doing well amongst black men in the state, 368 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 3: We're doing well with Muslims, and we are just killing 369 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 3: it amongst auto workers because they know the Democrats have 370 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 3: just nearly killed the auto industry here. 371 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 2: Mike, appreciate you being with us. I saw some polling. 372 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 6: Data out yesterday that actually showed Arab Americans I think 373 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 6: it was in Michigan specifically breaking for Trump by a 374 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 6: pretty solid majority. Is that lining up with what you 375 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 6: are seeing within the state, because one would thinks that 376 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 6: would have a lot of down ballid implications given how 377 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 6: many Muslims live in Michigan. 378 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a very significant voting block. And what's significant 379 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 3: about it in this case is that this is a 380 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 3: voting block that was traditionally the Democrats just counted on. 381 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 3: They didn't work very hard at it, and they automatically 382 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 3: assumed that they would get the Arab mus vote here, 383 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 3: and for a large part of it they did. And 384 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 3: so you know, those three coalitions I just talked about 385 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 3: Eric Muslims, their coalition falling apart the Democrats. Same with 386 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 3: auto workers. I know that the union leadership went one way. 387 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 3: The members who actually build things in America come in 388 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 3: our way. And same with black males. They are just 389 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 3: kind of throwing up their hands. Sand I've been doing 390 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 3: this over and over and over again. They keep telling 391 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: us there for us, and we nothing happens. And so 392 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,719 Speaker 3: we're going to do our traditional coalitions and they are 393 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 3: very strong, and the coalitions that normally vote for the 394 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 3: Democrats are all fractured. And now you know why we're 395 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 3: going to win in November. 396 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: Mike, you hit on something that I think is really 397 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: important because it's happening not only in Michigan but also 398 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. That is, Democrat Senate candidates there are 399 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: putting Donald Trump in their ads and saying they're going 400 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: to work with Trump. I'm betting you are not putting 401 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: Kamala in your ads and saying you are going to 402 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: work with Kamala. Isn't that a pretty good sign that 403 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: she's not doing that well, that the Democrats want Trump 404 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: and theirs, and I bet the only thing you'll have 405 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: in Kabla, I mean, your ads is what a disaster 406 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: shall be yeah, completely. 407 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 3: I mean, if you look at the fact that people 408 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 3: are having a hard time, you know, paying for groceries, 409 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 3: and some families are just telling me these heart wrenching 410 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 3: stories about having to go to the food pantry last 411 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 3: two and three days of the month to feed their 412 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 3: kids because the prices have gone up so much. People 413 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 3: aren't forgiving the Biden Harris in Slatka, and they've been 414 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 3: there for the four years. They've helped cause the problems. 415 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 3: She voted one hundred percent with this. People are starting 416 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 3: to wake up and think, you know what, I just 417 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 3: can't take this anymore. And so you know, listen, I 418 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 3: would work with anybody, but the problem is you can't 419 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 3: use their agenda and justify another four years. You just cannot. 420 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 3: And so they're not talking about issues. They've spent the 421 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 3: last six months with false negative ads. And what we've 422 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 3: found that false six months doesn't make up for six 423 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 3: years of bad policy by my opponent, in certainly four 424 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 3: years of the Biden Harris administration. 425 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 6: I know, when your time in Congress, you we're chairman 426 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 6: of the House Intelligence Committee. I'm just wondering if national 427 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 6: security has been playing a large role, you know, I 428 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 6: know economy, immigration are probably one and two, right, economy, 429 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 6: immigration and all the pulling. But is national security and 430 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 6: the Biden administration's handling of whether it's Ukraine, Afghanistan pull out, 431 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 6: you know, Israel and Hamas? Is that something that outside 432 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 6: We were just talking about the Muslim American contingent within Michigan, 433 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 6: but outside of that group statewide? Is national security something 434 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 6: that is a drag for the Democrats right now or 435 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 6: is there not much of a focus on it beyond 436 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 6: the implications of the border in national security? 437 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, not a big topic. I mean, obviously I spent 438 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 3: a long time dealing with all of those issues, including 439 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 3: how we recontained Erran, it just doesn't come up all 440 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 3: that often. I mean, when you can't put food on 441 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 3: your table, when these ed mandates are just absolutely killing 442 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 3: our automobile industry, people are thinking about, hey, where's my 443 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 3: I'm going to lose my job here. I don't even 444 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 3: know if there is another job that you had. Those 445 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 3: are the kinds of issues that people are just really 446 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 3: focused on now. The border at least allows us to 447 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:15,199 Speaker 3: talk about the broader implications of national security threats, just 448 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 3: because of the fact that a porus wide open southern 449 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 3: border is dangerous for ISIS terrorist groups who have been 450 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 3: filtrated and are in the country, other groups of Russians, 451 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 3: the Chinese males, others that we know are up to 452 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 3: no good in the country. We have got some huge problems, 453 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 3: and we talk about it through that lens. They see 454 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 3: the world, they know it's messed up. I think pretty 455 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 3: much most people starting to realize that, hey, we didn't 456 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 3: have that problem when Donald Trump was president. And you 457 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 3: look at the things that this administration has done. I 458 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 3: mean right away they went in and told the Saudis 459 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 3: you can't go after the Houthis. They took the Houthis 460 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 3: off the terrorist list. This is the Biden Harris administration. 461 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 3: They gave Iran the ability to sell oil on the market, 462 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 3: and you can just draw a bright red line right 463 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 3: to October seventh. From all of those decisions, funding of 464 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 3: Hamas through Tehran, the funding of Hesbala through Tehran, the 465 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 3: funding of the Huthies through Tehran, all of that cash, 466 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 3: all of that training has resulted in the chaos you 467 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 3: see in the Middle East. I think most people look 468 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 3: up and go, yeah, that's the Biden Harris team for sure. 469 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 1: Mike, I got married in Birmingham, Michigan. In Oakland County, 470 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: I know it is oftentimes that's where my wife went 471 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,600 Speaker 1: to high school. A big swing county. A couple of 472 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: part question here, how is early voting looking? What should 473 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: people know in Michigan about that too? If you could 474 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 1: pick any county in Michigan to know the final results 475 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: for would Oakland County be the best bell weather in 476 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: your mind? Or where should people be looking in Michigan 477 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: to try to glean what might happen? 478 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 3: I think it's a combination of county. Sagana, mccollm and 479 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 3: Oakland are good bets, and then Kent County right on 480 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 3: the heels of it. So Kent County shifted a little 481 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 3: bit blue on us the last election. We think we've 482 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 3: worked to get that back. Oakland County has slid blue 483 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 3: over the last decade. But Macomb County, which use where's 484 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 3: the macombe or the Reagan Democrats got its name, is 485 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 3: now a pretty bright red county. So we look at 486 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 3: higher numbers in Macomb, decent numbers in Oakland, try to 487 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 3: win Saginaw by a slim margin and keep control of Kent. 488 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 3: And if we do those things, we're going to be 489 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 3: a member of the United States Senate come August or 490 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 3: excuse me, November seventh or sixth. Where are we again? 491 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 2: So what about early voting? 492 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: We were talking battleground people listening to us in Michigan 493 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 1: right now, what are the rules on early voting there? 494 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 1: Would you encourage people to be out and about what 495 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: are you seeing there? 496 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, we encourage early voting. Now what I think a 497 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 3: lot of the pundit's nationwide are going to get wrong 498 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,959 Speaker 3: as they see early voting tends to favor them. So 499 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 3: we see an early push of Democrat early voting that 500 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 3: doesn't wouldn't surprise us a bit. We see that in 501 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 3: a place like Wayne County, which is the Detroit and 502 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 3: Detroit suburbs, and so that does not surprise us. And 503 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 3: we're looking at those numbers and saying that's tracking even 504 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 3: though the number is down from twenty twenty two, meaning 505 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 3: less Democrats are coming out and voting early voting. And 506 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 3: then out state, we look at those early voting, the 507 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 3: ballots that have come back, and it's trending our way. 508 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 3: There's a little more Republicans. Now if that holds for 509 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 3: this next two weeks, that's a really good sign for 510 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 3: us because Republicans tend to vote wait, and so we're 511 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 3: encouraging them to vote early. We want them to vote 512 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 3: early so that we can focus our resources on finding 513 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 3: those Republicans who haven't voted. The last nine days of 514 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 3: in person voting, that's the time when it we'll ramp up, Hey, 515 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 3: picking up the phone calling people saying hey, you really 516 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 3: got to go vote, We need you, or knock on 517 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,479 Speaker 3: their door and so, or text them to death and 518 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 3: so all of those things can go away if you 519 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 3: vote early. That's kind of our promise to them. 520 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 6: Hey, hey, Mike, I'm just wondering if there was any 521 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 6: blowback that you've picked up on the campaign trail talking 522 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 6: to folks or in the polls from Gretchen Whitmer, unfortunately, 523 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 6: the governor of the Great State of Michigan, with the 524 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 6: very weird handing the like de rito to the podcast, 525 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 6: or in what a lot of Catholics viewed as an 526 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 6: affront to communion. Are you seeing people that are recognizing 527 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 6: that the Democrats within your state are little cuckoo? 528 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 2: How did that go? How did that go over? 529 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 3: Not? Well? So, About twenty to twenty five percent of 530 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 3: our state identifies as Catholic, and so when you have 531 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 3: Catholic bishops showing up kind of on their own on 532 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 3: a Sunday to pray and protest on about that, what 533 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 3: I thought was a mockery of Christian and certainly the 534 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 3: Holy you know, the community, the communion, the Holy Sacrament, 535 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 3: it has left the mark. And so you take the 536 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 3: ethnic communities that are here, Kelbeans who are Iraqi Catholics 537 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 3: who fled persecution in Iraq, when you look at Albanian 538 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 3: Catholics and Armenian Catholics here, this is a really big 539 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 3: part and staple of their family life, their community life. 540 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 3: This was a complete slap in their face. And I 541 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 3: think they're going to pay a price for this. And 542 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 3: the mockery was when she apologized. She basically said, I'm 543 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 3: sorry you don't understand my humor. That was an apology 544 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 3: that you all are just too stupid to understand that 545 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 3: it's okay for me to to, you know, to make 546 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 3: fun of the Holy Sacrament. It was. It is really 547 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 3: quite a tragedy just about how anti Christian the Democrat 548 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 3: Party of today is. And I think again people know it, 549 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 3: they see it. You know, I was in a part 550 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 3: of the state yesterday, not overwhelmingly known to be a Republican, 551 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 3: but people will come up to me and just one 552 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 3: after the other, like, Hey, I'm not really a Republican, 553 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,719 Speaker 3: but I'm voting Democrat this year. I think there's going 554 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 3: to be a punishment vote from what you saw the 555 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 3: governor do We're. 556 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 2: Talking to Mike Rodgers. 557 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: Last question for you, and certainly we encourage everybody to 558 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: get out and vote for Mike Rodgers in the state 559 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 1: of Michigan helped to take back what had been a 560 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 1: Democrat senatecy. How much variation do you think there will 561 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: be between the Trump vote and your vote? In other words, 562 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: how many split ticket voters are out there? Certainly your 563 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: opponent is trying to appeal to a Trump voter who 564 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: might be willing to split ticket there. What does your 565 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: polling suggest in terms of your connection to Donald Trump 566 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: on the Republican ticket. 567 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we track this pretty carefully. There are 568 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 3: Trump not sure about Rogers voters, and then there are 569 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 3: Harris definitely won't vote for slack In voters. And so 570 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 3: that second group tends to be more of an independent group, 571 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 3: and we've been talking to them for months. We think 572 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,719 Speaker 3: we are going to do very very well with that crowd, 573 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 3: our Trump voters. That gap has closed. In the most 574 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 3: recent poll, we we had closed that gap, and actually 575 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 3: we're half a point ahead, meaning we've kind of closed 576 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 3: the Trump gap. People know that President Trump needs a 577 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 3: Senate that actually will be willing to you know, get 578 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 3: his nominees through and work on his agenda, and so 579 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 3: that part seems to have closed for us. I think 580 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 3: this is going to be the biggest put your jersey 581 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 3: on and go vote election than we've seen in the 582 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 3: state of Michigan probably in thirty years. People have you know, 583 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 3: made up their mind they're not going to go down 584 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 3: and do three Republicans two Democrats. And by the way, 585 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 3: that happened before. As matter of fact, that's how I 586 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 3: got elected the first time by people crossing over. They 587 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 3: voted for Al Gore, for President Mike Rodgers by the 588 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 3: time they got down to the congressional seat, and so 589 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 3: that you know, big ticket splitting. I just don't think 590 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 3: we're going to see that much ticket splitting this go round. 591 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 3: They're going to vote their economy, they're going to vote 592 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 3: the vorder, they're going to vote ev mandates, and then 593 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 3: they're going to go home and hope for the best. 594 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: If people want to vote for you, what's the website? 595 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: How can they donate? What should they know coming down 596 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: the home stretch for people out there in Michigan. 597 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the stakes of this election are high, 598 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 3: and I don't think that choices could be any clearer. 599 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 3: You're either going to have more job creation here in 600 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 3: Michigan or a lot less under the Democrats. Are going 601 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 3: to have lower gas prices and grocery prices under the Republicans, 602 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 3: or higher prices under the Democrats. You're either going to 603 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 3: get an end to this crazy ev mandate where the 604 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 3: government tells you what kind of car to drive, or 605 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 3: you're going to get the car that you can go 606 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 3: out and buy and afford and all of that. And 607 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 3: a border, by the way, that is secure and not 608 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 3: that wide open border. That's the choices in this election. 609 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 3: We need your help. It's going to come down to 610 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 3: twenty or thirty thousand votes in Michigan. You can go 611 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 3: to Rogers R G, E. R S or Senate dot Com. 612 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 3: Love to have you there. Any little bit helps. 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We were just 647 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 6: talking to Mike Rogers about his Senate race in Michigan 648 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 6: against Alyssa Slotkin. It is funny, Clay, you can get 649 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 6: a forget about all the noise and all the posturing 650 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 6: in politics right now when you have candidates in close races. 651 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, was I watching Morning Joe this morning? Yes, 652 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 2: because I always do. 653 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,239 Speaker 6: They're acting like it's the end of the world that 654 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 6: Trump wins, right, that's the sort of mainstream Democrat media narrative. 655 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 6: But there are candidates in close races, and Mike Rodgers 656 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 6: and Michigan was just talking about this Democrat candidates were like. 657 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 2: You know, sometimes I could reach across the aisle and 658 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 2: work with Trump. He's not so bad. We could work 659 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 2: together in the future. 660 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,360 Speaker 6: That tells you everything about the trends in these battleground states. 661 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: I think that's the most important. Pay attention to what 662 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 1: people do, not what they say. And I was kind 663 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: of joking with Mike Rogers, is are there any Republican 664 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: Senate candidates showing Kamala Harris in their ads saying I'll 665 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: work with Kamala. No, that would suggest to me that 666 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: Kamala is running behind Trump in all of these states 667 00:35:55,080 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 1: because there are no split ticket voters that could get Pennsylvania, Michigan, 668 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 1: or Wisconsin Republicans over the finish line, Whereas there may 669 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: be some that they're trying to appeal to who they 670 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 1: know are going to vote Trump over Kamala and they 671 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: need those supporters because there aren't enough Democrat voters otherwise 672 00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 1: to elect them. When we come back buck eight minutes ago, 673 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: the absolute latest numbers just popped from Florida. What are 674 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 1: those numbers telling us about early voting down in Florida 675 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: where they break it down by a Republican and Democrat. 676 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: We will give you all of those. We'll take some 677 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,240 Speaker 1: of your calls. We'll have some fun. Two weeks until 678 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: election day? What is the data showing? Plus Trump has 679 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 1: agreed to do a big interview, reportedly on Friday. We'll 680 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: tell you all that more. That's a double teas. How 681 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 1: could you possibly leave? We'll be back at a few minutes.