WEBVTT - Can Black Women Decide the Election? 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:10.440 Hey, hey, hey, we're back. 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:19.480 We're extra black, We're round ambition, ambition, ambition. We got 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:21.640 some extra chocolate in the stoup today. 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:25.919 Okay, Aaron, are you wrapping the four oh four? What 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:27.200 are we today? What are we mean? 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:30.000 At all times? But in the fact, yes, I literally 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:32.400 am wrapping the four oh four. I have freshly moved 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:36.440 back to my hometown of Atlanta. It feels good, yes, absolutely, 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:39.480 even getting a little fall weather in Atlanta and September 0:00:39.520 --> 0:00:43.280 which confusing. Uh yeah, so yes, back back back in 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:47.280 the land of the Georgia Bulldogs and sweet tea. 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:48.440 Glad to be here. 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:51.560 That makes me really like happy. I have no business 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:53.519 being happy that you're back in Atlanta, because I am not. 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:57.520 I'm so here in the land of New York. But 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:00.400 I do want to introduce you properly, y'all. Aaron Haynes. 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:02.560 This has been a long time coming. I mean, I 0:01:02.960 --> 0:01:05.600 can't imagine a time where I wasn't like, oh, I 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:08.160 should have erin on the show. But y'all be honest 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:10.560 with you, didn't think I was smart enough yet I 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:13.240 didn't think I was I know, I know, I know 0:01:13.360 --> 0:01:13.600 you all. 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:17.680 I'm happy to be here. Longtime listener first time call 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:20.080 our people absolutely Now. 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:22.959 You've always been so supportive. Erin and I go way back. 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:24.959 Let me do your proper intro and then I'll get 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:25.759 I'll get more. 0:01:25.840 --> 0:01:27.840 I'll shut up, sister. 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:29.760 Fran all right, So Aaron, if you guys do not 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.000 know Erin and that's what two rs, put some respect 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:35.320 on it. Okay. She is now the editor at large 0:01:35.319 --> 0:01:39.160 for the Nineteenth and she's the host of the Amendment Podcast. 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:41.960 Go right now and follow it. You listen to Brown Ambition. 0:01:42.200 --> 0:01:45.600 This is like the perfect combination to do. Along with 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:47.880 Brown Ambition. We give you the finance, we give you 0:01:47.920 --> 0:01:51.640 the giggles, little shits and gigs, and then you can 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:56.960 go to the Amendment. Because Aaron makes it so approachable, 0:01:57.320 --> 0:02:01.520 so understandable. I feel like knowing that you're the person 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:03.960 kind of explaining what's happening in politics today to me 0:02:04.480 --> 0:02:07.480 makes me feel less self conscious about listening. So go 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:11.840 tune in. Please also check out the nineteenthnews dot org. 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:14.440 We're going to talk about the Nineteenth and how Aaron 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:16.600 co founded that. How long is it? How long has 0:02:16.639 --> 0:02:16.880 it been? 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:20.239 We are in our fourth year, it's our second presidential election, 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:21.280 almost five years. 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:21.920 It's crazy. 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:25.360 Wow, Okaylas when you're making history. So they call her 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:27.840 a founding mother. I love that. And the Nineteenth of 0:02:27.919 --> 0:02:31.359 y'all don't know. It's the nation's first nonprofit newsroom and 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:34.480 they live at the intersection of gender politics and policy. 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:38.519 Their mission is to empower audiences with the information, resources 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.480 and community that they need to be equal participants in 0:02:41.560 --> 0:02:45.480 our democracy. As mentioned, she's on the nineteenth weekly podcast 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:47.720 The Amendment, which you are now following because you do 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:53.959 what I say, right, and she's also a regular MSNBC contributor. 0:02:54.320 --> 0:02:58.040 An award winning political journalist, Aaron previously was at the 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:01.480 Associated Press. She was their national writer, like the national 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:05.200 writer on race and ethnicity, and has also worked at 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:09.760 The Washington Post, The Orlando Orlando Sentinel, and The La Times. 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:12.320 Aaron Haynes welcome. 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:14.520 Oh my gosh, who do I cash app for this? 0:03:14.680 --> 0:03:14.920 Read? 0:03:15.080 --> 0:03:16.400 I mean, I'm feeling good. 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:19.240 If you're if you know a black journalist like you are, 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:21.840 like you're you're the elite, okay, the elite of the elite, 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:23.000 deleade the elite. 0:03:23.400 --> 0:03:24.800 I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good. 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:26.520 Today, feeling good as you should. 0:03:27.200 --> 0:03:27.720 They don't just. 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.639 Follow me around for like the rest of the month, year, whatever, 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:31.880 just to like hype you up. 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:35.600 Yes, yes, y'all. Y'all are good hype people. I appreciate you. 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:38.120 I love you. How are you doing in this moment? 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:41.640 Because I imagine going into this election year you were. I mean, 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:44.800 it's already a stressful time you cover politics, right, but 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:48.320 July everything changes, So it's not just that you're how 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:50.000 are you doing? How has it been? 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:52.840 I mean real talk. I mean I'm fucking exhausted. 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:54.400 I mean, am I am I able to say that 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:56.640 on You're like, yeah, that is that is that is 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:58.640 where I'm at. But I mean, but also like what 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:00.280 a time to be alive, What a time to be 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:01.360 covering politics? 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:02.760 What a time for the nineteenth to exist? 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:02.960 Right? 0:04:03.000 --> 0:04:05.360 I mean, like literally, we have all these conversations about 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:09.560 electability and you know, the race and gender of it 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:12.080 all in our politics, and so to have a woman 0:04:12.160 --> 0:04:15.360 on the ballot this year, regardless of the outcome, to 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:17.520 talk about what that means, to talk about why it 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:20.560 matters for our elector, it just feels really really like 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:22.960 my highest and best work. 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.480 As a journalist in this moment, and just like an. 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:29.320 Incredible privilege that I get paid to think about this 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:30.680 every single day for a living. 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:34.200 So yeah, I'm so happy that they do pay you. 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:36.840 Even though they're not, they still listen. Also, you can 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:38.800 donate nineteen dollars to the Nineteenth to go to the 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:39.479 Nineteenth News. 0:04:39.480 --> 0:04:41.200 Oh my god. Okay, you're amazing. 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:46.400 You're welcome, Tiffany. How are you feeling election wise? I 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:47.800 had to kind of give Tiffany, I feel like a 0:04:47.800 --> 0:04:51.280 pep talk before July happened, you were on that, and 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:52.680 we're going to get into some of the data that 0:04:52.720 --> 0:04:55.320 the Nineteenth has put out because I feel like Tiffany, 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:57.480 like low key, I'm going to put you on blastoms. Well, 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:01.520 you're kind of represented by the data as far as 0:05:01.520 --> 0:05:03.880 the Nineteenth found. I feel like with black women and 0:05:03.920 --> 0:05:06.120 how we are approaching the election. But go ahead tell 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:07.760 us about what. 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:11.120 I I'm not gonna So the last election almost literally 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:15.960 broke me mentally. And it wasn't over November sixth or eight 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:19.880 or whatever day we voted that all through November, still 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:23.320 holding your breath, all through December, still holding your breath. 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:26.039 Then January happens and you're like, oh my god, oh 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:28.080 my god, oh my god. I don't think I settled 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:33.039 down emotionally till March. March, so imagine all the time 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:36.200 prior to like it with the election. Then the election 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:40.159 happens and you're like, we won, I think, and then 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:42.960 you know you're holding your breath. And finally January I 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:44.880 was thinking maybe I can calm down. It was like no, no, no, 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:49.560 no insurrection time and it just so I just don't 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:52.640 And I remember thinking to myself, this time around, I 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:56.880 don't have the capacity to give that much emotional energy. 0:05:58.440 --> 0:06:01.960 I was so I mean every day, I was watching 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:05.719 every podcast, every this, every it just it was honestly, 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.320 if I got ulcers, I would have one, and I 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:10.240 just said, I can't do that. So I have been 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:13.560 kind of like dipping my baby toe in here. Y'all good, y'all, 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:16.200 don't anybody in no water, anybody, y'all good. And then 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:20.000 I heasel back to my cat videos and keV on stage, 0:06:20.360 --> 0:06:24.160 comedy sketches and house decor. And then I peeked back 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:27.599 in again and because I just can't take the full 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:31.560 ride emotionally, and I'm not gonna lie, you know. I mean, 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:36.000 I wasn't feeling so great about Oh Joe, but I mean, 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:41.200 you know, about him being able to wait, and I 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:44.120 so then, but then I was like, well, I guess 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.840 I mean, we're gonna do our best. And then you know, 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:50.880 when he stepped aside. My first reaction was, of course 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:55.320 I'm gonna vote, but besides the black girls, who's gonna vote? 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:56.719 I just wasn't that. 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:57.600 I remember distinctly. 0:06:57.640 --> 0:06:59.520 I was out with my friend Brandon's and I said, 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:01.640 oh my god, did you just see We had just 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:04.479 come from a walk. Brandis is a sister, and I said, 0:07:05.000 --> 0:07:07.880 I don't know how I feel about this because beyond us, 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:09.520 who's going to vote. It's like why I didn't want 0:07:09.520 --> 0:07:11.120 to be on the cover of my book, Beyond the 0:07:11.120 --> 0:07:12.720 black girls, who's going to buy a black girl book 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:16.520 with money? I just didn't feel so confident. Brenda said, no, 0:07:16.880 --> 0:07:19.960 we're not going to do that. She said, Tiffany, we're 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:22.280 not going to do that. That you know that all 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:23.240 things are possible. 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:26.440 I was like, okay, it was. 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:30.240 And then my friend Joecaida I would say him being 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:33.480 around when she did the first you know black girl 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:36.600 like zoom and blew it out the water? 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:38.680 Were you on that call? Were were you all on there? 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:38.960 Yes? 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:41.040 I was on that call, and I know jare was 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:41.679 like the show. 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:43.440 Of hers that she had. I was stuck in the 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:46.560 technical pregatory. But I was on last I have been 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:48.760 on call since I was on last night's call because. 0:07:48.520 --> 0:07:50.640 She's amazing and so like I'd known her because she 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:53.280 had done a show like own, had a show about 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:55.560 black women in finance. And I met her years ago 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:56.800 and then I just see her every once in a 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:58.840 while around and about. And so I saw her at 0:07:58.880 --> 0:08:00.560 Martha's vin here. I saw you guys had an article 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:04.040 about the Martha's Vineyard Black Women Cohort, and so I 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:06.840 was there. So I saw her there and I was 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:11.280 singing this Michael Jacksons song. I have a video of us. 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:12.880 I was like, so you want to be stun in. 0:08:12.960 --> 0:08:15.760 Some got to be stun in something. Because I told her, 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:16.920 I was like, look what you started. 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:19.680 She was like, now, humble, no, it's a lot of us. 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:22.040 I was like, girl, I'll stop it, like, look at 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:24.920 this avalanche that you started. And so since then I 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:27.080 had I'm more hopeful than not. So I'll just say 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:29.640 that that the space I'm in now still nervous just 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:31.840 because anything can happen. I was so hopeful about Pillary, 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:32.520 you know. 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:33.960 And I was like, what the entire hell? 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:36.440 And so so that's where I am now, where I'm 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:40.000 feeling very very very hopeful. It's feeling good, but I'm 0:08:40.040 --> 0:08:42.400 also like, you know, saving a little piece of myself 0:08:42.880 --> 0:08:45.000 just in case, and I saving a lot of my 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:47.920 mental energy to not look at every single thing because 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:49.560 I just don't I don't have the stomach for it. 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:54.560 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I think that's definitely where 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:56.520 so many of the black women that I talked to 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:00.760 about the selection, that's where they are like going from 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:03.040 feeling very worried even though they were going to show 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:08.640 up anyway, to now feeling hopeful, excited, but also anxious, 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:13.720 but not so worried anymore. And yeah, so I think 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:16.280 that that's kind of where people are headed into the 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:18.080 ballot box now. But a lot of that has to 0:09:18.120 --> 0:09:19.960 do with, Yeah, that change at the top of the 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:25.200 ticket that really just kind of changed everything, right, But 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:28.240 I mean this is all, yes, going into this year, 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:31.920 it was already an unprecedented situation, right, and it has 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:34.600 only become more unprecedented, and I feel like we'll only 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:38.960 become more unprecedent over the next seven weeks. So yeah, 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:41.360 and you know, with everything that we know, I mean, 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:45.040 Donald Trump has been in our orbit for you know, 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:48.200 the better part of the past decade. There's so much 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:49.680 more that we know about him than we did in 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:52.880 twenty sixteen and even in twenty twenty, and yet we 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:53.880 know this is still going to. 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:56.120 Be like a super close election. 0:09:56.400 --> 0:10:02.520 So I'm just I'm fascinated about out what this year 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:05.160 continues to say about where we are as a country, 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:08.000 where we are as a democracy. But I know that, 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:10.920 you know, whatever happens, that women are going to be 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:13.839 the deciders of the selection, and and just the emerging 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:19.160 democratic majority of this country is very fired up, very 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:19.679 fired up. 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:23.040 Going into November. You got Taylor Swift posting listen, I. 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:27.080 Mean from Taylor Taylor Swift on one end, Dick Cheney 0:10:27.120 --> 0:10:29.920 on the other, Like that is what the what what 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:31.079 the coalition for her? 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:32.680 Look, did you see Ronald. 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:35.400 Reagan like his like seventeen staff members, I said, not 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:37.200 Ronald Reagan, the Republican. 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:39.520 Yeah, I thought you were gonna say his ghost. Did 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:39.960 he come back? 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:41.199 He came back? 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:44.520 Was like keep a name. 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:48.200 Actually listen, But Jimmy Carter's like, I'm ready to vote. 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:50.600 Jimmy Carter one hundred years old. Out here and it's 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:51.880 like I'm passing a ballot. 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:53.319 I'm holding on. 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:56.440 Yeah, I'm just gonna do one one lass, one less election. 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:01.000 State firm agents are small business owners too, so they 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:03.840 know how to help you choose personalized policies that fit 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:06.520 your needs, like a good neighbor state farm is there? 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:11.360 Talk to your local agent today. Well, Aaron, you mentioned 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:13.960 that this is especially to be a woman at in 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:16.840 this election, and that women are going to decide the election. 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:19.280 There's so much. I don't want to say pressure. I 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:21.200 don't feel pressure as a black woman, but I do 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:25.000 feel the exhaustion and like the Okay, let's go, let's 0:11:25.040 --> 0:11:27.920 get it together. Let's get information to save another election. 0:11:28.720 --> 0:11:31.199 One of the things. So the Nineteenth puts out this survey. 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:33.560 This is a second year, y'all have done it like 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:36.320 your own survey of kind of like the mentality and 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:38.240 what I love about the mentality of voters. But what 0:11:38.280 --> 0:11:40.280 I love about y'all survey is because you go there, 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:42.280 you will break it down by you will break it 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:46.640 down by gender, by identity, by race, and all that. 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:48.600 You don't get the people who never get polled. 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:51.480 Yes, exactly like you should have seen me. I was 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:54.280 at the Congressional Black Caucus at ALC this week and 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:57.199 I was at this like this huge data center is 0:11:57.240 --> 0:12:00.400 like the Bloomberg New Data Collective or whatever, and I 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:02.160 was like, so, do you have data on black women 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:05.000 because that's what I focus on? And this man black 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:09.720 man was like, no, I don't think no, and I'm like, ah, 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:11.800 so anyway, it's another reason why it's so great the 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:14.520 Nineteenth exists. But the way that I was diving into 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:17.800 this report because I wanted to see, like specifically what 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:20.680 kind of questions y'all asked of? And these are thousands 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.400 of respondents. The one that really struck me though, was 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:25.600 just the simple are you going to vote? Do you 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:28.240 plan on voting? In twenty twenty four? And when I 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:32.240 looked at the white women's responses compared to women of color, 0:12:32.800 --> 0:12:36.439 eighty two percent of white women said just plain O, yes, yes, 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:39.120 we will be voting. Only I mean for me it's 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:41.680 an only, but maybe it's a lot. But only two 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:44.160 thirds of black women said the same. Sixty seven percent 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:49.160 said yes I will be voting. We had almost twenty percent, 0:12:49.240 --> 0:12:52.840 like seventeen percent of black women said maybe there's that 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:55.520 hesitation there and that just kind of freaked me out. 0:12:55.559 --> 0:12:58.000 I'm like, it's the seventeen percent. We have to get 0:12:58.040 --> 0:12:59.120 to the seventeen percent. 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:01.000 No, it's you know what that is, Mandy. 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:03.959 I mean, look at tell me, having covered elections for 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:05.640 a long time, like this is not you know, me 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:08.160 extrapolating off of the poll. This is you know, just 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:12.360 just my expertise as political journalists, having covered black women 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:15.520 for so much in my career, Like I would say that, uh, 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:18.360 the closer we get to election, that number goes up 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:23.920 for black women, right. You know, I feel like Big 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:26.280 Mama has not gotten to some of those black women yet. 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:29.120 Okay, we know that that younger voters. 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:31.480 We got to get them on board, uh, to get 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:34.640 them to participate. And that's just you know, regardless of 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:38.800 party like that, like like somebody in their family or 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:41.480 somebody in their friend group is usually like if you know, 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:44.760 especially because this is such a consequential election, uh, like 0:13:44.800 --> 0:13:46.800 there may be a conversation, right, Like I feel like 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:51.439 that is something that happens, especially as registration deadlines, people 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:53.240 start to become aware of those and then and so 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:57.000 then your mom, your aunt, your sister, your girlfriend is like, 0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:59.000 oh are you registered? And if they say, no, well, 0:13:59.000 --> 0:13:59.920 what are you going to do? You know, you need 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.240 to go ahead and get on board here, get with 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:05.280 the program. So I think it will start seeing more 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:09.240 of that. But I mean, yes, what's interesting about this 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:13.280 year though for me and I think this is this 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:15.760 kind of happened like between twenty sixteen and twenty twenty, 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:19.360 Like you had black women who I mean, we know 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:22.640 are the most loyal and consistent, you know, based the 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:29.440 Democratic Party really feeling like yeah, like that they're being 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:31.840 looked to to save democracy, you know, and if they 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.280 don't come out in certain numbers, it's their fault, you know, 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:37.560 if the Democratic candidate doesn't win. That's not where Black 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:40.400 women are anymore. Though, like that they are rejecting kind. 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:40.880 Of that. 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:44.720 Burden, I guess is for lack of a better word, 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:47.360 and this is really about their power. Like that is 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:51.440 how they are seeing this election, especially in the wake 0:14:51.640 --> 0:14:56.360 of the Dobb's decision that ended federal protections for abortion, like, 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:59.560 you know, with a loss of rights, with folks feeling 0:15:00.240 --> 0:15:03.560 so many women feeling like they have fewer rights in 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:06.800 their mothers and grandmothers, Like they are saying, no, like 0:15:06.920 --> 0:15:09.400 we this is not just about us saving democracy. This 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:14.000 is about us saving ourselves and asserting our power. And 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:18.320 I think that is why you are also seeing this 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:22.240 multi racial, multi generational coalition of women too, because I mean, 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:24.800 look forty four thousand black women getting on a call, 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:27.560 but I mean look at the white women for Harris Zoom. 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:30.840 That happens, you know right behind that. You know they 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:36.720 are thinking about twenty sixteen. They literally are in a 0:15:36.760 --> 0:15:39.120 position now where they are feeling like they have skin, 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:41.440 literal skin in the game, which is the thing that 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:46.440 makes a difference so often, right, So I'm. 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:48.360 It is. 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:51.560 Like I said when I say women are the deciders 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:56.200 of the election, I think that you are seeing women 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:58.960 coming together in a way that is really interesting and 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:00.000 doesn't always happen. 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:02.359 Like I've written about how. 0:16:02.480 --> 0:16:05.640 When women have to choose between their race and their gender, 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.920 I mean they choose race. But when black women do that, 0:16:09.920 --> 0:16:11.880 it usually helps more people, and when white women do 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:13.280 that it usually does not. 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:16.400 And to see them have such a huge I mean, 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:18.840 I'm biracial, my mom is white, and twenty twenty was 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:22.920 twenty sixteen rather twenty sixteen, and through twenty twenty was 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:26.160 just like it was just this. I am like a 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:28.480 fault line in our family. I feel like it really 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:30.920 just like fractured so much. And my mom was one 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:33.520 of the and I've been vocal about this, and she 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:37.320 is reformed and she is Michelle Obama's biggest fan now 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:40.760 as a but she was one of those never Hillary, 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:44.240 you know, vote for Trump in twenty sixteen, and she 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:47.280 wasn't alone and like the at least from what I've read. 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:49.960 In what I've listened, I get the impression that like, 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:53.520 white women were a huge reason why he was successful 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:56.040 in twenty sixteen. That's exactly right, yeah, and could have 0:16:56.080 --> 0:16:58.560 been in twenty twenty. So I think that the shift 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:00.960 now is that I feel it from my mom too. 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:03.880 She's like, oh, this is she is being in the 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:07.280 driver's seat of like pushing her own like doing her 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:09.960 own work to get the word out and being involved 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:13.199 and like being like understanding her responsibility and her privilege 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:15.119 as a white woman in her role. And I think 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:19.119 that to me is a lot more heartening, very heartening, 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:23.199 and makes me feel like, Okay, this can be different. 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:25.760 It's not no one's looking to us and being like 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:28.680 y'all fix it, you know entirely anymore. 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:30.760 Yeah, that's so interesting. 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:35.000 Because you know, as people have really just tried to 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:38.800 ascribe what we're seeing right now with Vice President Harris 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:43.760 to you know, vibes, you know joy. I literally wrote 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:46.280 this in a recent column, like it is not joy 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:49.800 actually is a strategy because it is translating into action. 0:17:50.280 --> 0:17:52.000 Your mom not just saying. 0:17:51.720 --> 0:17:54.280 She's going to cast a ballot for Kamala Harris, but 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:56.400 saying I'm willing to do some work to help her 0:17:56.680 --> 0:18:00.359 get elected like that because she's excited, right because she is. 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:02.520 She is she is hopeful, she is feeling joyful about 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:05.840 this election, and she wants to do something as Michelle 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:08.080 Obama told her to do. Apparently now that she's a 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:11.800 she's a stand, she's ready to do something. And so 0:18:12.240 --> 0:18:16.520 there there are and there are people like that, not 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:19.560 just people who maybe couldn't support Hillary or or voted 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:24.760 for Trump before, but but even people who maybe, uh, 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:27.280 you know, we're Democrats and we're gonna vote already, but 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:29.720 like they are also willing to do other things. They're 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:32.440 willing to I ain't never got so many text messages 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:35.440 y'all from from uh the Democratic Party. I'm like, y'all 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:37.320 texted me more than my man and my Mama, Like, 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:39.000 why am I hearing from you so much? 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:41.439 It's a lot. But that's just how many volunteers they 0:18:41.440 --> 0:18:42.120 have working. 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:46.120 Right, people came to our neighborhood and were door knocking, 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:48.520 like I haven't I can't remember the last time somebody 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:50.399 came and knocked on my door with literature for a 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:53.800 can for any candidate, right, so like, but but these 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:56.720 people have signed up for shifts and they are they 0:18:56.720 --> 0:18:59.239 are they are doing what they feel that they can 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:02.320 do to help her win. And so I think that 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:05.120 that matters. There's so many more young people that I've 0:19:05.119 --> 0:19:06.840 seen before. They remind you of like kind of like 0:19:06.880 --> 0:19:11.600 the upswelling for for President Obama, you know, the general 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:13.960 sense of excitement. Before it was kind of like I'm 0:19:14.000 --> 0:19:17.040