WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Is Baltimore Short-Handed? 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:07.000 The following Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:18.760 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Lets go. Are you 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:22.880 ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:27.240 Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:32.600 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:38.919 with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:43.800 It is Monday, December seventh, twenty twenty, Season sixteen, episode 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:46.360 number seventy five. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break, 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:49.560 live from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Starr. 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:51.680 We get the privilege of getting you guys ready for 0:00:51.720 --> 0:00:55.639 Cowboys Versus Ravens that happens tomorrow night. We'll go through 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:57.800 some of the injury updates. We'll talk to you about 0:00:58.360 --> 0:01:01.200 our preview of the cowboy Boys Versus Ravens. We'll also 0:01:01.240 --> 0:01:03.440 get into a little talk on the NFC East before 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:06.039 we end the show, and in the final segment, we 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:08.640 will definitely have our picks and we want to hear 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:10.840 from you guys, So if you have questions, make sure 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:12.760 you send them to at Cowboys Break on Twitter and 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:14.560 we will pull those. We'll get to some questions in 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:18.200 the third segment as well. But let's talk about injuries. 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:20.160 Let's catch up on some injuries. I'm gonna throw out 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:22.080 some names, and you guys tell me where they are 0:01:22.080 --> 0:01:25.679 at this point as far as their health and their 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:30.119 availability for tomorrow night's game. Let's start first with Anthony Brown, Dave. 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:36.200 Anthony Brown was limited over the weekend. I would guess 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:38.600 that he's gonna play if we ever do play this game. 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:40.760 I mean, I don't know. It feels like it's been 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:45.119 three weeks since the Cowboys have played a game, so 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:47.560 maybe in that regard, you know, it's a lot of 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:49.400 time for Anthony Brown to get right. You know, he 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:53.800 suffered the injury against the Vikings, didn't play on Thanksgiving, 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:56.280 so that's it's a long time to sit on the shelf. 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:58.480 So the fact that he upgraded to limited, it seems 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:02.520 like a good sign. All Smith, where's he? Well, he 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:05.600 practiced this week and he was missed a couple of days. 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:08.480 It was sick, missed a couple of days, came back 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:10.840 to practice, so I would imagine he should be ready 0:02:10.840 --> 0:02:13.800 to go. The one I'm most concerned about Donovan Wilson. 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:18.920 What's going on with him? He's got a groin and 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:23.560 he hasn't done anything significant, so we'll see. I wouldn't 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:26.160 say I feel optimistic about it, though it might be 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:29.799 Darry and Thompson time. Is that the best Just when 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:33.240 you get I was gonna say that, it feels like 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:37.000 just when you start getting excited about a guy, something 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:41.320 happens to that person and he ends up getting injured. So, man, 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:45.240 they just cannot catch a freaking break at all. Welcome 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:48.680 to twenty twenty. It seems like the story of probably 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:51.920 the whole country, but definitely the Cowboys this year is 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:54.280 every time you think you might be moving in a 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.960 positive direction, or you might be getting good play out 0:02:57.000 --> 0:03:00.920 of a certain guy, something just inevitably has to happen. Well, 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:04.639 I mean, you can't play the thing that you're excited 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:07.080 about with Donovan Wilson is this is the same reason 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:09.120 why he's going to be on the injury report fourteen 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:11.560 times every season. Doesn't mean he's gonna miss that many games. 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:14.240 He's just gonna be banged up because he plays like 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:16.200 he doesn't care about his body. When you throw it 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:18.280 around and you hit people like that, you're gonna get 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:20.239 banged up too. We saw it, you know, we've seen 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:22.679 it with running backs that run that way. We see 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:24.720 it with linebackers that play that way. I mean, if 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:28.720 you if you are an intense player that plays recklessly, 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:31.399 you're gonna get banged up. So it's recklessly a good 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:37.720 word for that, well for your body. Yeah, okay, okay, alright, 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:41.080 but reckless. Hey, we've been asking for someone that isn't 0:03:41.080 --> 0:03:45.520 afraid to tackle. True, we've been asking for someone who's 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:47.760 not afraid to tackle, and we finally get a guy, 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:50.520 and yes, that's gonna I mean, injuries are bound to 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:52.760 happen when you get someone that plays that way. But 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:56.360 at the same time, it's like, what do you want? 0:03:56.440 --> 0:03:58.760 You can't have it all at the same time. So 0:03:59.080 --> 0:04:01.360 I'd rather get a guy, all right that's not afraid 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:04.160 to hit someone? Yeah, I bet. I mean we might 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:06.160 just be sitting here talking and then they've rested him, 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:10.080 but he could be like, oh, I'm playing you know sure. 0:04:10.800 --> 0:04:13.680 I remember interviewing a player one time after a game 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:16.360 and he said, I'll be fine next week. And it 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:18.560 was like week six and he was on IR for 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:23.400 the season. So yeah, they never know said he'd be fine, 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:25.279 that he'd be he'd be back next week. When I 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:27.200 talked to him when he had a boot on. I 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:31.640 guess it was a Steelers game. Yeah, he meant next month. Yeah. Man. 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:33.760 A lot of times the player is going by, Oh, 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:36.120 I've had pain before. I can play through pain. But 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:39.040 then the medical people see it and they're like, no, 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:40.840 there's no way we're gonna put you back out there 0:04:40.839 --> 0:04:43.480 and let you play with that. Right. But that all 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:45.960 being said, like how much does this affect the defense? 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:49.480 And I know it seems kind of strange, Like if 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:51.760 you're if you're looking at this as a big picture thing, 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:54.080 it seems kind of strange. We're talking about Donovan Wilson 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:55.440 in a way where it's like, oh my god, he's 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:57.800 gonna be out, but he has been one of the 0:04:57.800 --> 0:04:59.960 bright spots of this defense. How much does it affect 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:02.640 them him not playing? If he doesn't play against the 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:11.360 Ravens Camber, I mean, that's just another guy to go out, 0:05:11.560 --> 0:05:13.720 a guy that was actually starting to do some things. 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.479 He wasn't he wasn't perfect or anything, but he was 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:19.400 someone that brought fire to the defense, and it's something 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:23.680 we've been lacking. And it's just unfortunate because you have 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:27.800 had so many different injuries in the secondary as a whole, 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:30.359 and now you get the safety position and then we 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:33.839 I know you were going to mention Stephen Parker as well, 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:38.360 who's another safety guy who it's what is the ankle 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.560 and it's still I don't know, it's it listed as questionable. 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:47.119 I forgot ye or is the OL's questionable too? Yeah, 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:51.000 So it's just again another hit at the depth of 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:54.279 the position, at a position that the Cowboys were already 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:58.920 struggling to begin with. So it's very unfortunate and this 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:01.760 is obviously going to affect the Cowboys and the defense 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:05.080 is gonna have to rely, in my opinion, on the 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:07.760 defensive line and get the most support that they can 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:11.200 get from them, pressure and attack right there and then 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:14.159 hope that the linebackers can do their job as well. Dave, 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:15.920 how much do you think this affects them if if 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:19.560 if they don't have Donald Wilson out there? You know, 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:22.960 when you first asked the question, like my immediate reaction 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:29.240 was like the Saint Tyrant Matthew, you know, But now 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:33.640 that I'm thinking about it, it's probably it probably would 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:36.880 not be very good because Donovan Wilson, he's got a 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:38.520 lot of he's got a lot of work to do 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:42.080 in coverage, like that's where he seems to struggle. That's 0:06:42.320 --> 0:06:44.560 and that's the hardest part of playing safety. So that 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:47.720 makes sense. But what does he do well? First of all, 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:49.680 he's around the ball, he makes hits, he plays the 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:52.640 middle of the field. Well, you know, he's the classic 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:55.359 let them know you're their type of player. And what 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:58.440 do the Ravens do? They run the ball and I 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:00.320 we're going to talk about it. Mark Andrews isn't going 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:02.560 to play in this game, but they still utilize tight 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:05.840 ends and they are better when they're throwing the ball 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:08.800 between the numbers, which is where you know a good 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:11.800 thumping safety is probably gonna be. So, yeah, that doesn't 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:14.240 sound good to me that a guy who can make 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:18.480 hits maybe forced fumbles. Maybe you know, stop marking Grimm 0:07:18.520 --> 0:07:21.480 or JK. Dobbins for six yards instead of letting him 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:25.040 go for fifteen. Yeah, that could be problematic. And we 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:28.000 know what the other safeties on this roster look like 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:30.680 because we watched them for the first eight weeks before 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:34.520 Donovan Wilson got his shot, So not super encouraging if 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:39.840 he can't go for sure, you know, obviously he's kind 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:41.600 of what they were saying is he just brings like 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:45.080 a jolt of energy to the defense, So you know 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:47.040 it'll be a big it'll be a big loss from 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:49.560 from that standpoint. You know, Darry and Thompson, if he 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:53.800 plays me, he's okay, He's just solid at best, but 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:57.760 he doesn't do he doesn't have that wow factor. And Wilson, 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:01.880 while he does struggle and at times in coverage, I mean, 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:06.280 most safeties do um, but he brings he makes up 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:09.000 for it with his ability to, you know, make a play. 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:11.400 That's one thing that this defense hasn't really done. It's 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:13.480 gonna make a play so that they're gonna miss that 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:16.120 if he doesn't play. But again I'm I'm I'm just 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:18.720 kind of thinking he probably will. And I don't know this, 0:08:18.920 --> 0:08:21.880 I'm just guessing he might. I'm guessing he will play. 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:25.080 If they don't have him or Stephen Parker, what do 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.320 they have just far as bodies, what's left? As far 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:32.360 as just the bodies they have to play? Wait, say 0:08:32.360 --> 0:08:35.080 what if they don't have Stephen Parker or Donovan Wilson, 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:36.680 what do they have it? Just as far as bodies 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:40.600 are concerned that can play safety, they have Darien, They 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:43.400 have Xavier Woods. I'm like, thrown off. I'm not sure 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:46.520 what nick. Later day, when we talked about this in 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:48.800 a meeting, we talked about it, and you're talking about 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:52.000 the rookie. Dave's like Reggie Robinson like he was like, 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:56.360 oh yeah, Reggie, Yeah. Well, I mean I gotta oh 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:59.280 that guy that goes to show where we are that 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:02.960 it's we thirteen of the season, and I forgot about 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:05.560 him because the guy hasn't gotten a jersey yet. So 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:09.840 my god, I mean, if Donovan can't go and Reggie 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:12.920 Wilson's or Reggie Robinson I'm sorry still can't get a jersey, 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:14.800 then I don't know what to say. But yeah, that's 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:17.240 that's a really good point. I guess that's that's a 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:20.920 silver lining, is that if he can't go, maybe maybe, 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:24.240 just maybe we'll see Reggie. I got see it to 0:09:24.280 --> 0:09:26.320 believe it. Well, you gotta think if both of them 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:28.680 can't go, if Wilson can't go and Parker can't go, 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:30.880 then I think, like, who else do they have? I 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.240 don't know how the joy you have. You almost think 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:34.720 you gotta put him out there and see what he 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:36.080 can do. Unless you want to take one of those 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:39.080 corners where by the way, you're shorthanded there too. Yeah, like, 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:40.959 where are you gonna put back there? I want to 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:43.360 say this is not good. I mean, but I want 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:47.160 to say DeAndre Burton has played some safety. I mean 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:49.679 he looks like a safety. He's like six two to 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:54.280 twenty five. I guess he could play some safety. You know, 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:58.480 we've talked a lot cheeto they move. Oh what like 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:02.880 if they move cornerback to safety on two days notice 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:05.920 instead of playing Reggie Robinson, I might lose it. And 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:10.800 I'm not saying Reggie Robinson is this great player. I 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:13.040 mean he had a rough trading camp. I get it. 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:16.560 Sometimes guys take time. But I mean, you know, we 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:18.560 I feel like we've said this a million times in 0:10:18.559 --> 0:10:21.000 twenty twenty, like it's a break glass in case of 0:10:21.040 --> 0:10:25.120 emergency situation, like if he can't find some snaps in 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:29.640 a situation like this, that's just it's really disheartening to 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:32.640 hear about a fourth round draft pick. I'm sure we'll 0:10:32.679 --> 0:10:35.640 find out hearing about I don't know, a few hours. 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:37.920 That's about the time when they when they take off 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:41.559 on road trips on the day before the game is 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:44.360 usually when they have to start elevating players from the 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:46.760 practice squad or moving them up and making all kinds 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.640 of changes. So you expect to see some kind of 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:51.920 news from that, and I would say in the next 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:54.320 two hours, and if nothing happens, if they don't move 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:56.680 him up, then you probably start feeling a little bit 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:59.760 better about Wilson and or Parker being able to play, 0:10:59.760 --> 0:11:01.959 because just from the standpoint of bodies, you would think 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:03.840 they feel pretty good about it. All Right, we're gonna 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:05.600 take an early break. When we come back, we're gonna 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.480 get into our Cowboys Versus Ravens preview. I got some 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.520 questions lined up for these guys. We'll talk about that 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:13.760 when we come back. 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It is the second secondent 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:42.040 of the Break Life from the s WBC Mortgage Studios. 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:45.440 At the Star We're gonna talk Cowboys versus Ravens. And 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:47.760 here's the first question I'd like to pose to the 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:50.880 group who must have a better day for Dallas to 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:54.280 be successful. Andy Dalton or Zeke Elliott. Let's start with you, 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:59.439 Nick Oh, Zeke. You gotta go with Zeke. Why because 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:02.840 he's the guy that has to play well. The running 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:05.040 game has to be effective. You're not you mean you 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:09.440 need him to be resembling a superstar. You don't need 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:12.360 that necessarily for Andy Dalton. He needs to he needs 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:15.240 Zeke to play well. He plays well than Andy Dalton 0:14:15.240 --> 0:14:18.640 will play well. Um, I think you need Zeke Amber 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:23.960 I think Zeke as well. I just have a feeling that, Um, 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:29.320 Cowboys tend to have a better ending when the running 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:32.640 game is successful, when Zeke has a better day than 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.240 the quarterback. So I just have a feeling that if 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:38.000 they get Zeke moving and he's able to have a 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:43.680 better game, the Cowboys might and just might might get 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:48.200 away with a win. Babe, sounds like he's gonna pick him. 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:54.360 I think Dalton's it's Andy Dalton. It's a quarterbacks league. 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:57.960 I don't think. I mean, could anybody tell me the 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.640 last time like Zeke took over a game and just 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:03.160 made it happen when the other stuff wasn't working, like 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:08.000 passing games not Their quarterback can't stay upright, and Zeke 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:10.560 it just didn't matter like Zeke winfull Derrick Henry and 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:12.680 did it all himself, because I don't I couldn't tell 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:15.560 you the last time that happened. And I think running 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:19.320 backs tend to have great days when the quarterback is 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:23.560 keeping a defense honest, So I mean Zeke. They both 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.120 need to play well, don't get me wrong, but Andy 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:29.240 Dalton has to find a way to scare the Ravens 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:33.280 into thinking the passing game might work. Whatever that looks like. 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:37.040 He's got to keep that thing honest because just like 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:40.200 every other team, especially since Dak went down, I'm sure 0:15:40.240 --> 0:15:42.120 the Ravens are gonna be like, we're not gonna let 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:44.240 twenty one be the reason why we lose this game, 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:47.640 not with a compromised offensive line and a backup quarterback. 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:50.400 So I would assume they're going to focus on Zeke 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.120 and they'll probably be successful because teams usually are when 0:15:53.120 --> 0:15:55.480 they do that. So Andy Dalton's got to get him 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:57.520 out of that mindset. So he needs to have it's 0:15:57.560 --> 0:15:59.680 more important that he has a good game. In my opinion, 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:04.880 that just seems It's funny. Amber and Dave have completely 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:07.840 different answers there. I mean, and because you think about it, 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:12.560 the quarterback. We've seen the quarterback play really well here 0:16:12.640 --> 0:16:15.160 with stats and yards and all that and then get 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:18.240 their ass kick and lose. So you know, and I 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:21.200 agree with Amber on that one. Like when Zeke plays 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:23.360 well when the running game is there, they typically win. 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:27.120 So I've seen the running game do well and then 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:29.360 win way more than I've seen the passing game do 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:32.240 well and then lose. So I think it's the running game. 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:34.440 I'm not trying to say like one's right or wrong. 0:16:34.480 --> 0:16:36.600 I mean, I'm just saying I don't know if I've 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:41.760 seen that before. Well, the running game works well when 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:44.560 you just dictate the game to the other team, like 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.560 when you can do what you want, they can't stop you. Typically, 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:49.400 like you know, like right off the right, off the 0:16:49.480 --> 0:16:52.160 top of my head, I'll I can't get this game 0:16:52.160 --> 0:16:55.320 out of my head. Is the loss of the Vikings 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:57.360 last year. We're dack through for like four hundred and 0:16:57.440 --> 0:17:00.520 thirty yards and Zeke really wasn't doing much of anything 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:03.520 and they did lose that game. I would argue that 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:05.320 they maybe lost that game because they took the ball 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:09.720 out of their quarterback's hands and crunch time. But I 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:14.200 just think I think running is a running success is 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:16.800 a byproduct of winning the game and being the better 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:20.720 team more often than not, unless you just get up 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:24.840 Barry Sanders or Derrick Henry Day. From my point is, 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:26.600 I mean, we haven't seen one of those from Zeke 0:17:26.640 --> 0:17:29.040 in a long long time in my opinion. To that point, 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:32.000 do you think Zeke has become or has always been 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:35.240 the type of back that needs great blocking in order 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:38.400 to be successful? And do you think that's a fair 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:42.600 way to judge a running back, Dave, Let's starve you. 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:48.119 I mean, what is the evidence that suggests that that's 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:51.000 not true? And further, I've said this a million times, 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:53.760 I still think it's true. Like I'm I'm not worried 0:17:53.800 --> 0:17:56.960 about Zeke in the long term. You know, when this 0:17:57.040 --> 0:17:59.600 offensive line is a little bit healthier and the starting 0:17:59.680 --> 0:18:02.040 quarter back is healthy, I think he'll be just fine. 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:05.679 But I mean, there's the evidence to suggest that he 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:07.960 can make it work all by himself. So it's that fair? 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:09.560 Is that fair to judge him in that way? Though? 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:13.280 When he's making the amount of money he's makings, that 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:16.240 is how you should judge him. Yes, that's that those 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:19.679 are the expectations that come with a fifteen million dollars salary. 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:21.640 And I've said that a gait, like you know, I'm 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:26.760 a broken record sometimes, but it's not ideal, like Zeke 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:29.280 is just not a generational running back who doesn't need 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:33.040 talent around him to make it work. And honestly, there's 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:35.960 probably only five or six guys in the history of 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:38.680 the NFL that you can say that about. So it's 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:41.000 not a knock on Zeke that that's true. It's just 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:45.880 an unfortunate circumstance. So like I said, you know, I'm 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:48.800 I'm not I'm not trying to rush to cut the 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:50.679 guy or make him take a pay cut. It just 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:52.560 it is what it is that I'm just not sure 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:59.159 he's that caliber of running back amber. I mean, Dave's 0:18:59.200 --> 0:19:03.640 answer is a smart answer, but I feel like me personally, 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:07.000 I'm not ready to say that yet, even though everything 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:12.480 everything we're seeing this year suggest your point, Dave. But 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:15.880 at the same time, I feel there's something just holding 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:19.240 me back from saying that. And that's maybe because the 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:22.400 Cowboys have been bad in so many different areas that 0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:26.000 it's not like, oh, Zeke is the only one that's 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:29.760 not doing his job and playing bad even though we 0:19:29.880 --> 0:19:33.280 know that because of his contract, we have higher expectations 0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:36.080 and at times like this, this is when we need 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:39.200 him to be good and he's not being good. So 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:42.720 but I just can't can't get there, like I mean, 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:46.080 maybe a little more time to feel that way. To me, 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:49.840 I love Zeke and everything that he's done in previous year. Yes, 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:53.800 completely different line, but there were many times where I 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:57.320 thought that the line wasn't perfect in certain games, and 0:19:57.400 --> 0:20:00.840 he was still able to create plays where there wasn't any. 0:20:01.000 --> 0:20:04.720 So I'm not quite there just yet. Yeah, he doesn't 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:07.320 need a great line, Um, I mean, he's had one 0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:10.040 and he's then he's he's had unbelievable numbers. But if 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:12.320 you think about the offense they run with him, they don't. 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:14.800 They don't have a fullback for him. They don't have 0:20:15.320 --> 0:20:18.320 uh adequate tight end blockings. They think they do. They 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:20.120 put the tight ends out there a lot, but they're 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:22.400 not really good blockers and they haven't been really since 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:25.360 he's been here. So, um, you know, they he's had 0:20:25.400 --> 0:20:27.639 a good offensive line, there's no doubt. But but I 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:30.000 you know, if they really if he was a back 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:32.159 that needed all that, they would have a lead blocker 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:34.520 for him, and they would really, you know, have more 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:37.280 of a run oriented offense. They they want to look 0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:39.760 at it and go, let's spread out with weapons and 0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:41.679 then Zeke can kind of do what he does and 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:44.520 for the most part, it's worked. So I think he 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:46.600 you know, when he has a great line, he has 0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:50.320 great stats. When he has a bad line, he's had 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:53.680 decent stats and he's fourth them in the NFC and 0:20:53.840 --> 0:20:56.040 in rushing yards. I had to write that the other 0:20:56.119 --> 0:20:59.639 day when we did this Pro Bowls NFC, which matters 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:02.000 for the When you're looking at where does he rank 0:21:02.040 --> 0:21:04.760 in all this, it's like, dang, he's actually I mean, 0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:06.960 he's gonna be in the conversation because he's Zeke and 0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:10.000 he's his stats are right there, you know. So yeah, 0:21:10.160 --> 0:21:12.200