1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Your tunes about drive on Home of the Black and 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:44,880 Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio. That is my theme song of 3 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: the drive, we don't get here. Yeah, all that much, 4 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: matt I. I wanted to talk about a couple of 5 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: things in this segment. Um. First of all, I did 6 00:00:54,600 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: a little research and this was into the quarter back class. Okay, 7 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: it's been it's a hot topic this week. Mason Rudolph 8 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: spoke this week. Got me to wondering how Mason Rudolph's 9 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: first nine starts compare to the other guys who were 10 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: drafted ahead of them and their first nine starts of 11 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: their career. Fair enough, now, the only difference here is 12 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: that their first nine starts in all every case except 13 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: for Lamar Jackson, his were over the course of two seasons. 14 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: Right he started, Remember he started the last seven games 15 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: of his rookie year and then the first two games 16 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: to get to the nine for him. For people don't remember, 17 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: Flacco was a starter in Baltimore. And it's about halfway 18 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: through the year and after they played the Steelers. Yeah, 19 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: and you're hearing things like his hard boss job in 20 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: jeopardy um, and it was and it was you know, 21 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: they had drafted Lamar at the end of the first 22 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: round that year, and he had played I mean he 23 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: would not Taysom Hill, but he had. There was packages 24 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: and remember Joe would go stand there and not run around. 25 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: And they played ten on eleven and you saw Lamar. 26 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: So his and Trince to the league was a little 27 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: different than others. It wasn't like boom, here you're the guy. 28 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: But then they went all in and boom, he was 29 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: the guy, and they changed everything around they did. It 30 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: took him a little while to get that number of stars, 31 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: took him over two seasons, like you said. But the 32 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: rest of the guys would be Baker Mayfield, Sam Donald, 33 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Josh Rosen Um. They all started there first 34 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: nine games that rook the year, not all in like 35 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: Josh Allen missed a couple of games in the middle 36 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: of the season, Und missed a couple of games. He 37 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 1: missed a couple of games as well, but all in 38 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: their starters. So Mason Rudolph in that in his first 39 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: nine games hundred seventy two two eighty three. That's a 40 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: sixty point seven completion percentage, one thousand, eight hundred and 41 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: thirty nine yards, twelve touchdowns, nine interceptions. I believe four 42 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: of those came in the game against the Browns. Fifteen 43 00:02:55,520 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: sacks he's taken, okay, and he's rushed. He ran nineteen 44 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: times for thirty six yards, had a five and four record, 45 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: a passer rating of eight point seven. I want to 46 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: mention the rushing thing real quick. I mean he's not 47 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: a runner, no, I mean he got two yards a 48 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: clip on. But a lot of those rushing attempts are 49 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: neil downs. Like last year. I think he played at 50 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: the end of he played at the end of like 51 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: three or four games and just came in to take 52 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: a knee. Yeah, all right, I guess that doesn't help 53 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: things either. I didn't think of that part, But my 54 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: point was going to be, I'm glad he's at least 55 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: willing the seas part. He'll get five And those of 56 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: those nineteen, probably fourteen of them are him running with 57 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: the ball, and he's ever gonna break off long trunks 58 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: of runs and some of these guys we mentioned or 59 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: he's not even close. Of course, it's on his game, 60 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: but I'm glad that he does it. Okay, So when 61 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: you compare his completing percentage to the other guys, the 62 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: only two that are better Baker Mayfield at sixty two 63 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: point five four and Lamar Jackson of all people, at 64 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: sixty one point eight six, who's not as inaccurate as 65 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: people think. Sam Donald's completion percentage, Remember he was the 66 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: number three pick in that draft. First nine starts fifty 67 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: five point two. Mason's at sixty ish by NFL standards 68 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: for two thousand twenty. Isn't so great for young rookie guys. 69 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: It's not so bad for the young quarterbacks. That's pretty dark. Well. 70 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: Josh Allen in his first nine starts, Yeah, but they 71 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: were bad fifty two point nine four, and unlike now, 72 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: they weren't a deep passing team. I mean, they were 73 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: trying to break in a rookie quarterback. They're trying to 74 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: get him layups, just like everybody else. Josh Rosen fifty 75 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: four point one four. Yeah, I mean, I guess that 76 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: doesn't surprise him. And he has not turned it around 77 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: obviously either. In terms of yardage. Baker Mayfield lead to 78 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: what lad the Way twenty four or two thousand, four 79 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty eight. Now, remember they were losing a 80 00:04:56,200 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: lot of his games. We mentioned what Lamar's time is 81 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: when he became a starter, Mayfield took over. I want 82 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: to say, in like week four or five, went on 83 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 1: to win Rookie of the Year over se Kwon Barkley. 84 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: I would have voted for Barkley set some passing records. 85 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: But and I'm not just picking on because they play. 86 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 1: They played nothing well. Before we get too far down expectations, 87 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: let's talk about the records, guys. Maybe I should have 88 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: brought that out first, right, Okay, So Lamar Jackson eight 89 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: and one and his first nine starts they kind of 90 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: took off with with Lamar that was one. Yeah, you 91 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: saved their season. Yeah right. The second best record of 92 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: those guys Mason Rudolph at five and four. I guess 93 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: that doesn't shock me the more I think about it. 94 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: Then you got Josh Allen at four and five. Baker, 95 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,239 Speaker 1: Mayfield and Josh Rosen were three and six, and Sam 96 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: Donald two and seven, women one three. Al Right, So 97 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: in terms of guards, Baker Mayfield was led the way 98 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: with hundred two thousand, four and thirty eight number two 99 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: Donald with one thousand, nine d thirty four. Again, these 100 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: guys were behind a lot, as I say, they that helps. 101 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: There's some pre events coverage time in there too. Number three, 102 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph one thousand, eight hundred thirty nine. Then you 103 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: had Lamar Jackson one thousand, seven dred ten, Josh Rosen 104 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: one thousand, six hundred thirty four, and then Josh Allen 105 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: dead last in that group, one thousand, five hundred fifty nine. 106 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: That's the nine starts. Wow, how many and nine stars 107 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: for Allan one thousand, five hundred fifty nine, So he's 108 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,119 Speaker 1: averaging about a hundred and sixty yards a game. Pass 109 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: completion percentage was the worst too, and he's not completely 110 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: the big ones either. Touchdowns passing, passing. Mayfield led the 111 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: way again eighteen. He set that record as a rookie 112 00:06:55,800 --> 00:07:00,239 Speaker 1: number two. It's a tie between Lamar Jackson and Mason 113 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: Rudolph both at twelve. Josh Rosen, I'm sorry, Sam Donald 114 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: has eleven, Josh Rosen ten, Josh Allen six. Boy Allen, 115 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: he was really bad. As we were both really down 116 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: on Allen coming out of school and his first couple 117 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: of years, I forgot how bad he was. I mean, 118 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: he was so good this last year. Interceptions. Lamar far 119 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: and away the best in that respect. He had three. 120 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: Number two was a tie between Josh Allen of all 121 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: people and Mason Rudolph. He's like second in every category. 122 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: Then you had Rosen and Mayfield tied with ten. And 123 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: the leader in the clubhouse with four team was Donald 124 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: Donald thru picks in high school college jets, probably with 125 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: the Panthers too. And we'll throw a bunch of the 126 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: sacks taken. And we've talked a lot about this as 127 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: a quarterback stat as much as is an offensive line 128 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: sta the leader Mason Rudolph with fift the most, the fewest. Uh. 129 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: Then you had Lamar Jackson with eighteen. They couldn't be 130 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: any more different. They couldn't be any more different, right, 131 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and Sam Donald one each, Josh Allen twenty four, 132 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: Josh Rosen. Rosen had a really bad line, but so 133 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: did Donald. Yeah. Still, I mean it's also a lack 134 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: of recognition. Yeah, absolutely. And then rushing yards, it's not 135 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: even close. Lamar Jackson six two in those, which is 136 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: probably the most probably, but Allen had four eighty in 137 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: his first nine starts. In half the rushing attempts seventy 138 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: one seventy one carries for Allen as compared to a 139 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: D thirty eight for Lamar and then they weren't all designed. 140 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: It was I don't know what I'm doing. Yeah, I'm 141 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: just gonna take off. He was a wild stallion. Yeah. Uh. 142 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: Then you have it goes all the way down to 143 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield at one oh nine. Um, Josh Rosen sixty six, 144 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: Sam Donald sixty two, Mason Rudolph thirty six. I mean 145 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: he's never gonna win that category. No Mayfield to run around, 146 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: nor do you want him to. No, no, right, that's 147 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: not playing to his strings. Passer rating Lamar Jackson point 148 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: six led the way, okay, number two, Baker Mayfield at 149 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: nine point four makes sense. Mason Rudolph's third eight point seven. 150 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: Then you go to Rosen at sixty nine point seven, 151 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: Donald at sixty eight point three, Allen at sixty six 152 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 1: point one. Not the passer rating is the but it's 153 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: still mean something, right, Rudolfson second or third again, and 154 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: you had another category. He's the only thing that he 155 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 1: is dead last in in this whole exercise is rushing 156 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: yards and he will be forever and well that's that's 157 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: not who yet everything else he's in the top of 158 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: the class. It's amazing. I mean, he was clearly the 159 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: last one drafted of that group. There was a gap, 160 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: but the Steelers said, hey, we had him ranked up 161 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: there with those other guys, and people have laughed at 162 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: that lot, like what are they looking at? Wow? I 163 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: think there's a misconception that he's in. I'm not making 164 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: fun of these other dudes, but the that he's a 165 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: Omar Jacobs throwaway fifth round pick that lasts a year, 166 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: Dennis Dixon. You know, I'm sure there's there's a long 167 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 1: stretch of him that every team takes those shots and 168 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: rarely do you get the dock or you know that 169 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: you hit. I mean he's better than that. I mean, 170 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: I think he came the league better than that. We 171 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: talked the previous segment. We talked a lot about national perception. 172 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: The national perception on Mason Rudolph is is a stinks like, 173 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: oh my god, the Steelers are bringing back Mason Rudolph 174 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,439 Speaker 1: is their number. When you look at it like this 175 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: with these like like if he would have been the 176 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: starter since day one. Ben Roethlisberger retires years ago and 177 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: they put Rudolph in to start that season and he 178 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: begins the year like this, as does Baker and Allen 179 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: and all those guys, I think there'd be a lot 180 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 1: different perception of them, you know, and those guys have 181 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: gone and do some very good things. Look at the 182 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: look jump Josh Allen made from year two to year 183 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,560 Speaker 1: three as big as I've ever seen. Now, think about 184 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: what we saw in year two from Mason Rudolph and 185 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: then what we saw in last year against Cleveland in 186 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: year three. Yeah, good point, it's pretty good jump. Or 187 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: even Mayfield, I mean, everyone thought he was a great 188 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: in the world after his rookie year, which was a 189 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: little inflated, and it's not His second year was bad, 190 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: and then got in a good situation, and he played 191 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: very well last year, especially down the stretch when it 192 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: mattered most. You know, like these rookies, these young quarterbacks, 193 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: and it has been true since the time, you know, 194 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: the test of time. Troy Aikman and Peyton Manning were 195 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: terrible in the rookie year. And I'm not saying Rudolph 196 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: is going to be as good as Mayfield, let alone 197 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 1: Manning or Akman, you know what I mean, But all 198 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: of them have roller coaster beginnings of their season. I mean, 199 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,199 Speaker 1: my homes is like the only one I can remember 200 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: who's really been great and say great, yeah, has been 201 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: pretty good. He has. He's a little unique, but he 202 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: been really good. He's more of a unicorn he is. 203 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: But still know he's been a great player. But you know, 204 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: I think when you look at like Josh Rosen got bench, 205 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: he's he's he's on his he's on his fourth team, 206 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: on his fourth team. Right, you know, Darnald has been 207 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 1: traded um the other guy. The other three guys are 208 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: all getting big contracts. They're about to all get paid, 209 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: by the way, Rudolph just he didn't get paid paid, 210 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: but the Steelers gave him the best him. Know, there's 211 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: a reason for that. I think they're looking at this going, Okay, 212 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: there's something to work with here, right. I mean, like 213 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: I said, this staff has worked with the the Jacobs 214 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 1: and Dobbs and all these guys and didn't treat them 215 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: this way. You know what I mean, Like, Okay, you're 216 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: gonna trade Dabbs for what sixth round pick that year 217 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: or whatever. Fine, we'll get something back for him. Roll 218 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: with Dice again. You know, they get him back. Yeah, right, 219 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,719 Speaker 1: someone like him and they feel like there's something there 220 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: with Mason. Rudolph all indications certainly show that way. And 221 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: I wonder if the we can't erase this game, but 222 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: if the Browns are it, game didn't happen and every 223 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: e in America didn't watch it, if that was a 224 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 1: one o'clock on a Sunday and he didn't play well 225 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: and be with you know, or it didn't end the 226 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: way it did in such ugly fashion. Frankly, I wonder 227 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: perception would be a lot different of him, of boy, 228 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 1: maybe he's coming along well, or you know, they're they're 229 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: you know, they're happy about him. I don't know. Yeah, 230 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: I think that that goes a long way towards the 231 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: perception of Mason Murder, Like take that game out of 232 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: the equation. His numbers are far better, far better. And 233 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: we've talked about this. You know, Ben Roethlisberger would have 234 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: struggled in that game, right. James Conner went out earlier 235 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 1: in the first James Conner went out in the first quarter. 236 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: It was a super short week with no practice. Jante 237 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: Johnson went out in the second quarter. Juju Smith Schuster 238 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 1: went out in the third quarter. Yeah, I mean the're 239 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: playing they're playing legit like this most of the second 240 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: half with the Tevin Jones on the field. Tevin Jones 241 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: and James Washington are their top two receivers in Switzer, 242 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: that's what that's what he's playing with and they were 243 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: worn out on a short week. Again, I'm making excuses, 244 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: I really am, But watching that game, you don't see 245 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: that often where a young quarterback is telling dudes where 246 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: to line up right, you know, like running back and 247 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 1: receivers that have never played Tevin Jones, that's the only 248 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: that's the first time Tevin Jones had ever stepped foot 249 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: on in a regular season game, and the league like 250 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: he was cut after that season and nobody picked him up. Yeah, 251 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: he was playing with non NFL players in a really 252 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: difficult environment and on the road on the week, and 253 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: not overcoming it by any means. I mean Aaron Rodgers 254 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: would have overcome it. What happened happened, right, But it 255 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: was as bad as situation as you can be. And 256 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: to perform so and again, boy that year he played 257 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: so well against the Jets and got hurt again, you know. 258 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: And I also think there's this narrative that him and 259 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: Duck are the same guy. They're not, right, like, not 260 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: even close. Ben wasn't in there, and they played with 261 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: two dudes that were terrible. Well, one was really bad 262 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: and one one day went five and three, you know, 263 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: the other one was three and three. One to throw 264 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: the football and one can't once in an actual NFL quarterback. 265 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: The other one is not right. And if some eight 266 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: year olds out there was picking up teams and saw 267 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: the two of them practice for four seconds, I think 268 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: he'd take root. And I'm not I'm not picking on 269 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: I'm not picking on Duck at all. And they got 270 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: three wins out of him. And shame on the Chargers 271 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: for losing that game in his first start because they 272 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: didn't ask him to do anything. And I get that 273 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: he was popular, you know, and an interesting story and 274 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: you know all that. But even Tomlin said he didn't 275 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: just kill us, you know, like a couple of times 276 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: exactly like you know, Colbert talked about it last year, 277 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: um in the off season about how their expectation for 278 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: the defense in those games, you know, they want their 279 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: defense to hold a team under twenty when Ben's starting. Yeah, 280 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: well when when when when they went to Mason it 281 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: was okay, hold on the seventeen or fewer. When when 282 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: they went to Ducket's hold on the thirteen or fewer, 283 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: you know. I mean that's where they were and they 284 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: sometimes did right, you know. So again, I'm not saying 285 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: Rudolph has Ben's successor, but I think he might be 286 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: in the mix. I would like to see. I would 287 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: like to see what it looks like. Give him a shot, 288 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: especially if they go the way of the draft or 289 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: I mean, they're gonna add somebody else. Even if Rudolph absolutely, 290 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: heaven forbid it starts fifteen games and plays really well, 291 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: they'll probably still add somebody else, you know. But um, 292 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: unless it's a trade for car or you know, an 293 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: established top fifteen type guy. I bet Rudolph's gonna be 294 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: somewhat in the mix. Yeah, and it's not as bad 295 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: as people think. And it's not especially when you look 296 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: at it in that regard. Yeah, I'm curious. Maybe it's 297 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: a project for another day, and I know it won't 298 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: be pretty, but I wonder what Haskins numbers are in 299 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: the same amount of stats. They're not gonna be good, 300 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: be good. I know they're not gonna be good, But 301 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean he's a total wash and failure either. No, 302 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: he was playing with a really his rookie year when 303 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: he started, like it was as bad as Darnold situation, 304 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: if not worse. I mean to total with no leadership 305 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: on that team at that point either, and no stability. 306 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: And you know I'm interested to watch him. Like I 307 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: have heard that he throws ball pretty well. Yeah, yeah, 308 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: you know you've seen him. I mean, he's a big, strong, 309 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:18,479 Speaker 1: strapping dude that can throw the ball moving on all right. 310 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: So I want to take a look at the Steelers 311 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: positions here. I'm gonna give you, um you give them 312 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: a grade here where they stand below average, average, above average, 313 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: and great. Do you want to put them in reference 314 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: to the league? We're incomplete, we could say too. Yeah, 315 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: in reference to the rest of the league, not where 316 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: they were from a year ago. Now where they are, 317 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: where you feel like they're acting right now going into 318 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: season wide receiver position well above average. Yeah, it's not 319 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: the best, but I think it's really darn good. Our 320 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 1: friends at Pro Football Focus seemed to disagree because they 321 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: ranked them. Believe I saw this, I didn't open it, 322 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 1: but I think they had the Steelers receivers group rank 323 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: like nineteen in the league. Wow, I don't see that 324 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: that's not the case. No, No, I mean I did 325 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: a top twenty five list. Deante barely made it, but 326 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: there were three that were just I mean two were 327 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: just missed. They don't have the star power that some 328 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: of the other yet. Yeah, but it's it's it's there, 329 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,520 Speaker 1: there's potential for it. It's not like, Okay, these guys 330 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: are all twenty eight year old receivers and this is 331 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: who they are. No, absolutely not. They're still guys who 332 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: are all ascending. And James Washington is one of the 333 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 1: best fourth in the league. I mean, I think he's 334 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: the top three in those rooms too. So No, I 335 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,880 Speaker 1: think it's a very good group. Tight end group, and 336 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: the receiving group is not why there was just a 337 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: short passing game last and they can attack the middle 338 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: field at all levels. The tight end group average leaning 339 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: towards above because I think a talented second round pick 340 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: goes a long way there. Um. I also think it's 341 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,479 Speaker 1: an ascending him. I do think Ebron is what he 342 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 1: is and just recognize he's closer to the first conversation 343 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: than the tight end conversation. Um. But there's a lot 344 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,880 Speaker 1: of rooms that I would not trade. The Steelers tight 345 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: ends for around the league. Yeah, that's a good way 346 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: to put it, you know what I mean? Offensive line? 347 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: Should we break it up, should we break it up 348 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: in the tackles, an interior or just I said it's 349 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: the tackles, I think. I think the whole thing is 350 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: gonna below. I think the whole thing is below. That's 351 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: how we have to grade it right now. The interior, 352 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: I might lean towards average. I think might even I 353 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: might even give some of these an incomplete without question. 354 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: There's a lot to be hashed out there. And the 355 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 1: old lines below. I mean, I'm not gonna sugarcoda. I 356 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: think we know that, but I think it's a little 357 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: better than people think, and I think it can get 358 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 1: the average and scheme will help the quarterback room average. Okay, 359 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: I think it's slight above average when you look at 360 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: the depth of they when we went through the quarterback 361 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: rooms across the backups across the league earlier in the week, 362 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: and there's some really bad ones. Yes, they started two 363 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: guys that two guys that have started games in the 364 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: league as their backups, and three dolls started a game, hasn't. 365 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: I mean he's been I don't think he started, but 366 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 1: he's played, he's played in the league. I think the 367 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks are well above average. I think the whole 368 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: room is average. And that's one that doesn't mean bends below. 369 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: But right now, if you split the league into thirds, 370 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: I don't think he's in the top third right this minute. 371 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: Easily can get back to that, yeah, easily the running 372 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: back room, that's certainly incomplete. But I'm gonna go with average, 373 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: I think, and that's a huge upgrade from where they're 374 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: last year and where they were last they were last 375 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 1: and I think now they're average, and it might not 376 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 1: be before long. We go with it's clearly above average. 377 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's in the cards. I think 378 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: that's coming. Defensive line, let's do interior and edge. Interior 379 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: defensive line well above that, well above age might be 380 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: the best. They play the best, I mean Aaron Donald's 381 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: and next to me and you might be the best. 382 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: But in terms of guys who get a lot of snaps, 383 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: it's top three. Yeah, I agree. I agree, Um, outside 384 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: edge well above average. They have one of the top 385 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: two or three players at that position and a question mark. 386 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: I mean, if we say the edge guys too through 387 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: bottom of the roster. I would put them below average, 388 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: but the number one guy carries a lot of weight, 389 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: so they're above average. And I'm not knocking high Smith. 390 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a good player, but he's 391 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: sort of an incomplete. This one is an interesting one 392 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: because off ball linebackers. Now, when we did this a 393 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: few weeks ago and looked at the entire a f 394 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 1: C North, they were all bad. They were that they 395 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: were the best. So is it average? Is it below average? Average? 396 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: Because I could probably come up with ten that you 397 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 1: wouldn't write, including three in the division that aren't so good. Um, yeah, 398 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: I think it's average. Uh, the cornerback position average, Yeah, 399 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 1: I would agree that there's no star. There's some questions, 400 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: there's some turnover um. Pass rush helps you know, if 401 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: they were on an average pass rushing team, how would 402 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: Joe Hayden and that wouldn't be nearly as goodn't been 403 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: quite as good. But that's not the reality. That's the reality. 404 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: They have a great pass rush that they don't need 405 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: the best corner tandem in the league either. I made 406 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,719 Speaker 1: that point earlier, like the Steelers aren't a piece. Yesterday 407 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: the Steelers on his bad at cornerback as everybody seems 408 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: to think, because they have a great pass rush, they've 409 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: led the league, and they've led the league in sacks 410 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: the last four years. That's never been done before. Ridiculous, right, 411 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: never been done before, and are good bet. You know, 412 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: if you're if you were laying a money in Vegas 413 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 1: on who's gonna lead to league in sacks again, Steelers 414 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 1: will probably be the shortest money on that. Maybe Washington, 415 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 1: maybe Washington. But I was asked today who are a 416 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: better defense Washington? In Pittsburgh. I leaned towards the football team. 417 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: I really impressed with what they've done. I mean they've 418 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: been they don't lose anything. They just keep add into 419 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: it every year. But it's a conversation. I mean, you're right, 420 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: it's probably even odds to lead to league in sacks. 421 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: The safety position well above average. Yeah, one of the 422 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: best in the league. I I agree. I think people 423 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 1: look at Makup thro all Edmands, I should say it's well, 424 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: he's Terrell Edmans is at least an average starting He's 425 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 1: he's the definition of an average starting safety team. That 426 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: doesn't mean he's worth fifth year bump money, right, you know, 427 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: But he's an He's not a bad player, No, he's 428 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're ranking the top well sixty four 429 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: safeties in the league, he's probably right around. He's in it. 430 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: He's thirty eight, somewhere in that range, exactly. I mean, 431 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: I'm having a hard time coming up with safety tandems 432 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: that have put ahead of them. I mean, the Bills 433 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 1: are really good, but they have the second third best 434 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 1: player on that list. The Packers are really good, but 435 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,479 Speaker 1: Amos and Savage or two and three, you know, I mean, 436 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: there's a couple of those type of situations. Like I mean, 437 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: I'm I'm probably missing one or two, but I don't 438 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: know that. I mean really, right now, if you're ranking 439 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 1: the top safety in the league, Minca is in the 440 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: top two or three for me, right he's in the 441 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 1: He's in that conversation. So therefore he's got a really 442 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: good group and maybe one of the best ones. Jamal 443 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: Adams isn't on that list. Durwin's out of sight, out 444 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 1: of mind, but he's can't yeah, I mean, he hasn't 445 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: played in two years. You just can't automatically put him ballot. 446 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: He's he's top five because he's right we haven't seen 447 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: that guy in two years. Harrison Smith is a really 448 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: good player, you know, but he's not maybe not quite 449 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: what he used to be. I wouldn't trade Minca for 450 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: any safety in the league, straight up. I would not either, 451 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: and you even talk about money. He fits well in 452 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: this defense right exactly what they want him to do. 453 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: And even derwin if I saw him and he was healthy. 454 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: I think it's easier to find box guys than center fielders. 455 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: The draft plays that out. I mean that that's we 456 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: can see that every year. Yeah, it's hard to find 457 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: the freeze. I wouldn't trade him for any And if 458 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: you match that within average dude who's allowed to get 459 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: better and played a lot, and we're still reliable still 460 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: under twenty five, I think that's one of the best 461 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: safety rooms in the league, if not number one. Death 462 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: worries me a little a little bit, a little bit, 463 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,879 Speaker 1: but I think they've gotten better there. Um kill A 464 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: Brew can play some safety for you, Milette can play 465 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: some safety for you. Antoine Brooks is coming into year two. 466 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: She should be able to get his feet wet last year. 467 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: Trey Norwood can play you know, safety for you. They've 468 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,719 Speaker 1: got some guys there that you look you can look 469 00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: at and say, Okay, these guys can potentially be If 470 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: they signed a hooker like you're get in trouble doing that, 471 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: it's going about it kind of wrong. I think that 472 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: would go a long way, you know. I mean not 473 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: not that he's a superstar or somebody like that, but 474 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 1: it wouldn't break my heart to add a veteran there 475 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: that has some upside still, you know, you see, but 476 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: I think they like some of their guys. How about 477 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: special teams above, Yeah, I think they get a bad 478 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: rap a lot of times. It's one of those positions 479 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 1: where you only remember the bad things. Boswell goes a 480 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: long way. Boswell goes a long way. Barry was really 481 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: good last year. I don't know if it'll be the 482 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: Potner this year. I don't know if he'll be the 483 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: putter this year. But if he's not, it's because Presley 484 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: has beaten the mouth. Well. Yeah, and Harven's gonna win 485 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: the Ties. And to be honest, Rayray McLeod is a 486 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: return guy. Last year, especially early in the season, it 487 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: was pretty dynamic, pretty decent. Yeah, and their and their 488 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: coverage units have always been pretty good. Yeah. Above average 489 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 1: above average. Yeah, I think their covered units are pretty 490 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: darned good. If everyone it's certainly a position where you 491 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 1: only remember the bad, and there's gonna be some bad 492 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a punt blocked and things like that. 493 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: Every team has them. Um, there are core special teamers 494 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: I think are a pretty good group. You know, Watt 495 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 1: and some of those linebackers, and it's not a bad 496 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: group there. Yeah, I think it's average to above. I 497 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: mean it's not below. How about coaching well above And 498 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: I'm not kicking you know, dirt on the last group, 499 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: but I think they upgraded it on the offensive side 500 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: of the ball, and that's an incomplete I mean, we 501 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: don't know that Clem and Canada and those guys, but 502 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: I think they improve. But I know the defensive on 503 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 1: the defensive side, I mean you have to look and 504 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: say that staff doesn't get enough credit. How many how 505 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: many defensive coordinator slash people under him would you rank 506 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: ahead of the Steelers right now? Not many? Not many. 507 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: It's funny we had a conversation in a previous segment 508 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: about execution verse scheme on the offensive side of the ball, 509 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 1: the defense does both. They got guys that win a 510 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: lot of one on one matchups, but they also scheme 511 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: those guys up pretty darn well. And they have for 512 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: many years with different coordinators, I mean over history, but 513 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: they've had a good combination for twenty years of execution 514 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: and scheme. Yeah, I agree, I think again, everybody looks 515 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: at you know, for example, the Denver game last year, well, 516 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: they were just you know, they allowed Jeff Driscoll to 517 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: to hang. You know, you're not gonna shut anybody down 518 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: in today's NFL. No, And I know people a point 519 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: to why is Keenan Allen catching a hundred balls against Bostic? 520 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: It's a problem. I mean, it wasn't ideal, but they've 521 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: had some deficiencies to on the second level that way. 522 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: But the other team has coaches too, and they do 523 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: they scheme to get you in the situations that you 524 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: don't want to be in. Right. We had this conversation 525 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: a ton pre Bush was they played before Bush got here, 526 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: they were really heavy with based the defence and dime 527 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: and not nickel and and dime. They weren't strong enough 528 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: and and basically weren't fast enough. In a nutshell, they 529 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: fell into a little bit of that problem once Bush 530 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: got hurt last year too, you know, so um, well, 531 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: Buddy Johnson help that. Maybe we'll see, But I mean 532 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: that's one worry to me. I think they would like 533 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: to play more snaps of Nickel with two linebackers on 534 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: the field that they trust and run ran that can 535 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: you know, And and Vince is okay, but not if 536 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: it's no Bush, you know, if it's Vince and Williamson 537 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: or you know, you need Bush to be in there. Yes, 538 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: like Splain is okay in coverage, but not when he's 539 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: your main coverage guy. Um, I don't want Splain Williams 540 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: Williamson being two, I mean all two of those guys 541 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: always on the field because what's gonna happen is exactly 542 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: what happened against Cleveland in the playoffs is gonna happen 543 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: because they're gonna they're gonna see that. Okay, we're gonna 544 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: come out in our in our twelve personnel, we're gonna 545 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: split the tight ends out wide before and all of 546 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: a sudden, you got Joe Hayden covering Austin Hooper and 547 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: here's Jarvis Landry against Robert's plaint. I mean, I know, 548 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about maybe a Jamon Davis or 549 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: is even Collins even in the first round. You can't 550 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: have everything in the draft, but the fact that they 551 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: took a linebacker that can run in Johnson shows that 552 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: they're they see, Yeah, they are, they know and boy 553 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: when they couldn't afford Sezier to get hurt, and they're 554 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: sort of in that environment with Bush now too and 555 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,959 Speaker 1: Bush right now. Boy, now, they may not have they 556 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't wouldn't have, they wouldn't have made a trade up, 557 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: but they may have gotten there's somebody in a later 558 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: round that that you know, or you'd been better somewhere else. 559 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: What if she's here, doesn't get hurt period, I mean, 560 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: and he's not the only guy in the league that's 561 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: gotten hurt. And he just put a wrench in GM's plans. 562 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: But that was a pretty flukey thing. It was really unfortunate. Obviously. Anyways, 563 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break and it's gonna do it 564 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: for this segment. So for my partner Matt Williamson, for 565 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: Jacob ket here on site keeping us on the air, 566 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: I'm deal Lilly. Thank you for listening to this edition 567 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: of The Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.