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Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by hard Rock bet. We

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Speaker 1: are part of the Volume podcast Network. This is the

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Speaker 1: show that makes the squares sharper and makes the wise

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Speaker 1: guys pay attention. I am Chad Noman and I am

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Speaker 1: joined as always by my bff, my companion, my compadrey,

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Speaker 1: my co host professional Better Simon Hunter Eado.

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Speaker 2: Simon, Chad feel much better today, not as angry, not

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Speaker 2: on edge. I was very very on edge on Tuesday. Today.

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Speaker 2: I feel relaxed, I feel feel much better. All these

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Speaker 2: bad losses shall pass, and thank god that one finally passed.

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Speaker 1: We did have some concern from commenters and tweeters and

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Speaker 1: texters about your state of mind on Tuesday, so I'm

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Speaker 1: glad to hear that's unprompted.

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Speaker 3: Unprompted I was.

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Speaker 2: I was trying not to show it. I was so

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Speaker 2: so mad and miserable. I did my best. I hopefully

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Speaker 2: it didn't come across as just a very bitter old man.

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Speaker 1: No, it came acros across as a fan, which at

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, that's what we are. We

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Speaker 1: do have one, Simon, we have one major major correction

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Speaker 1: to make on the show, because last Tuesday, I said

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Speaker 1: to you that one of my favorite lines from one

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Speaker 1: of my favorite movies, Planes, Trains, and Automobiles is when

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Speaker 1: Steve Martin's character and John Candy's character are.

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Speaker 1: Riding through Kansas in the winter to get home for Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 1: and Steve Martin says to John Candy, how cold do

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Speaker 1: you think it is? And John Candy deadpans and just

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Speaker 1: says one. And You responded with, surely you can't be serious.

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Speaker 2: Can you fly this plane and land it? Surely you

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Speaker 2: can't be serious? I am serious, and don't call me surely.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: Look, I don't know what I was thinking in the moment.

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Speaker 1: In the moment, I knew that that line was from

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Speaker 1: Airplane because, like anyone my age, I watched that movie

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Speaker 1: they probably paused it in one very particular scene when

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Speaker 1: everyone believes the plane is going down. There's one moment

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Speaker 1: because in the moment I thought, well, maybe they periodied

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Speaker 1: but I thought I knew it was from Airplane, and

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Speaker 1: I didn't correct you, so shame on me.

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Speaker 3: It's shameful. But here's the worst part. Matt Mitchell, who

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Speaker 3: Spotify wrapped Age is probably eighty five years.

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Speaker 1: Older than mine, lives in Milwaukee, no joke, lives next

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Speaker 1: door to the Zucker brothers who wrote Airplane directed The

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Speaker 1: to where he lives. Even he didn't catch it. For that,

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Speaker 1: we owe everybody an apology.

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Speaker 2: Both are great movies.

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Speaker 1: Both are great movies. I mean, look, as they say

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Speaker 1: an airplane, Shane and I. They bought their ticket. They

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Speaker 1: knew what they were getting into. I say, let them crash.

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Speaker 1: Everybody who listens to this podcast knew what they were

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Speaker 1: getting into. Shame on me, Shame on Matt for not

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Speaker 1: correcting it, Shame on the listeners for signing up for

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Speaker 1: this trek. Anyways, this is our Thursday Week fifteen episodes,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to get down closer on our quest

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Speaker 1: for the final five picks. Reminder subscribe to Sharper Square

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Speaker 1: on YouTube, Apple Pods, Spotify, let's get into this thing.

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Speaker 1: Every week, we're going to give our picks. Every week,

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Speaker 1: we're going to get calls from our friends in the

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Speaker 1: wise guy community. They are going to agree, they are

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Speaker 1: going to disagree. They are never going to be shy

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Speaker 1: about sharing their opinions. Simon, it is time for sharp calls.

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Speaker 2: What do we got, brother, Let's start with a Thursday.

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Speaker 2: A couple of pros I really respect all over Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: I can join them. I get where they're coming from.

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Speaker 2: You know, just Baker doesn't blow teams out. They tend

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Speaker 2: Another game was on the other side of tons of

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Speaker 2: You know, the Chicago Cleveland game is very split between

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Speaker 2: But basically, this Eagles defense have played like seventy snaps

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Speaker 1: the freeze Sharper Square Pro Football Pick Them Contest, which

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Speaker 1: Number one is a reminder it's only one entry per person.

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Speaker 1: If you submit multiple entries try to manipulate the system,

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Speaker 1: If you're in this contest and don't think you can win,

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Speaker 3: Bow Bells, North Dakota.

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Speaker 1: Three is a question from producer Matt Our contest is

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Speaker 1: nine weeks long, five picks per week. This is forty

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Speaker 1: five available wins in total. Out of forty five, how

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Speaker 1: You talked about Kansas City, Los Angeles Chargers visiting. We

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Speaker 1: By the middle of yesterday I completely came around to

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Speaker 1: close games. So I'm with you, brother, I'm on the Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: I bet him, I bet him. I got the line

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Speaker 2: This is an automatic Chargers play. This is a Chargers line,

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Speaker 2: and you know, justin Herbert as a dog, very profitable.

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Speaker 2: but we kind of blindly bet him in this exact spot, right,

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Speaker 2: But this is what we talked about. This is unique.

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Speaker 3: I don't feel that gross.

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Speaker 2: It's weird even after all those numbers. I mean, Herbert's

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Speaker 1: I don't feel that gross because this team, this offensive

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Speaker 3: Alert here from Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: He's a r he's a timer, he's a football.

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Speaker 4: There we go, Josh.

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Speaker 2: He drugs an excuse me touchdown?

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Speaker 4: How many quarterbacks have you ever seen hurdle anyone? Goodness,

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Speaker 4: there's no fears, no way he was being tons down.

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Speaker 2: He's still going, Oh my god. The demands to do

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Speaker 4: Louder and louder.

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Speaker 3: Every scenario you can think of.

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Speaker 1: You talk about trends. Josh Allen off a lost Josh

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're both the mentality, it's really us

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Speaker 2: I wish Rabel haven't been around that long. He is

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Speaker 2: So that's that's probably the most unique stat to me

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Speaker 2: you know, a ten day they've won ten straight games,

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Speaker 2: think he beat him by like thirteen points. So it

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Speaker 2: I just remember the Killer Bees and how much hype

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Speaker 2: Allen the fact that he did lose them early in

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Speaker 2: the trendsetter now for the next ten years between the

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Speaker 2: is pretty wild to think because last year the Patriots

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Speaker 2: on the road in Buffalo. Maybe I am undervalue in

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Speaker 2: the they have. Like Chad said, they have so many

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Speaker 2: just have not faced any teams that can exploit those weaknesses.

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Speaker 2: So I love this one just like you love I

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Speaker 2: love the Bills. I think we're getting a great number,

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Speaker 2: but I could not get over those vable stats after

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Speaker 3: We're both stepping in it.

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Speaker 1: This is a season making game for either of these teams.

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Speaker 1: It's a playoff. It's a playoff game, it really is.

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Speaker 1: So is Josh Allen the reigning MVP. Do they have

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Speaker 1: still exist. I'm going to bet on Josh Allen. We

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Speaker 1: I think by Sunday it's going to get to ten.

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Speaker 1: I think by Sunday, when the public rolls in and

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Speaker 1: I'm still waiting for it to get to ten. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it'll make our contest. I think there's

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Speaker 1: But are you tempted at all by the reeling, creating, confused,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and this could be the type of game where

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Speaker 2: Like we've talked about a little bit the beginning of

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Speaker 2: blindly bet the under in East Texas game, just because

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Speaker 2: And you know, this year has lived up to that. Right.

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Speaker 2: going back his last twenty two starts CJ, He's seventeen

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Speaker 2: I should say he's been bet down. That's why this

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Speaker 2: And I'm just looking at the numbers. Yes, this is

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Speaker 2: moved a lot. That's just that's just gonna be the

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Speaker 2: the best pass rushes in all football, and we've seen

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Speaker 2: but I'm with you. It's I'm still taking the nine

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Speaker 2: more confident, just because I just have such leaking confidence

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00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 2: right now, not so much in Brissett, but just the

434
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 2: head coach. I just feel like he's totally lost his

435
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 2: locker room in the Cardinals. And I'm interesting how they

436
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 2: end this next four games because we've seen a lot

437
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 2: of reports, a lot of really respectable guys in the

438
00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 2: media saying he might be out, like it might be done.

439
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 2: Him and Coyler might be both out the door come

440
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 2: the end of the season. So it's gonna be interesting

441
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,680
Speaker 2: how these teams plays for them the next four games

442
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 2: after getting just absolutely blown out their past past.

443
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,480
Speaker 1: Feel we do owe the people of brass balls so

444
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: we can we can think about this one. I have

445
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 1: an idea. You and I forgot to discuss this before

446
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: we came on the air. I have an idea of

447
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 1: what I think brass balls should be. It's not it's

448
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: not this game. I'll be curious to see if you

449
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: and I agree on it. So let's continue. Let's put

450
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,360
Speaker 1: a pin in that. It's just a reminder for both

451
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 1: of us. Cincinnati two and a half point underdogs at Baltimore.

452
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: I don't think this is gonna make it, but it's

453
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: It was a newsworthy game to begin with, because it's

454
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 1: Cincinnati and Baltimore and it's just a great matchup. But

455
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: it's also a great matchup of teams that are reeling.

456
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry, it's Baltimore Cincinnati, by the way, not Baltimore.

457
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 3: Not Cincinnati at Baltimore.

458
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: And I can't really get there on either team right now.

459
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 3: Joe is so sad.

460
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 1: Lamar hasn't really been playing as well as we expected

461
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 1: him to. The defenses for both teams are pretty bad.

462
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: I find no edge here. I definitely don't want to

463
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: play it in the contest. I just wanted to bring

464
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: it up because he's in sharp calls and Joe's feeling blue.

465
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 1: He's not Joe cool, he's Joe blue.

466
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I took a little bit a shame on me.

467
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Speaker 1: I know.

468
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 2: I usually don't like just continuously betting guys who are underdogs,

469
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 2: because eventually, like you said, it's probably gonna go the

470
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: other way. But Joe Burrow as a dog, he just covers.

471
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 2: And I've given out those numbers, especially when he gets

472
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Speaker 2: above three, and this number is heading that way. Like

473
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 2: since we've been talking the numbers moving the three at a

474
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 2: couple of books, so I talked about this number went

475
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 2: down to one and a half. Joe Burrow gave the

476
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 2: most somber, depressing interview ever, talking about he's not having

477
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 2: fun anymore and he doesn't know if he loves the

478
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 2: game as much as he used to. Now the number

479
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 2: is moving up to three, so I'll check. Maybe there's

480
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 2: something I'm missing, maybe there's an injury I don't know about.

481
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 2: But everything I've seen this feels like two teams going

482
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: in totally different directions. Like this Ravens team. We keep

483
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 2: thinking they're gonna figure it out and be that team

484
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 2: we saw these last five six years. Right, they're gonna

485
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 2: figure it out, But you keep looking at it the

486
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 2: under Alane number. It's just Lamar is not as good.

487
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 2: He simply is not as good as he's been in

488
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 2: previous years. And yeah, that game unlucky, right, they probably

489
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 2: should have won it, decided by the referees, whatever you

490
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 2: want to say. They we're not gonna cover that game.

491
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 2: So that's that's another game with the market overvalue in them.

492
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 2: And it feels like it's going the same way here.

493
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 2: Like if this is now up to three, I kind

494
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 2: of love the Bengals. If they get the three and

495
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 2: a half in our contest, we're gonna have a real

496
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 2: conversation comes Sunday. So just look at all the different metrics.

497
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:58,440
Speaker 2: Even when Lamar and this Ravens team were dominant, absolutely dominant,

498
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 2: they've struggled against the NFC North. He's five and nine

499
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 2: against the spread against his division. When he's on the road,

500
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: he's three and five against the spread in his division.

501
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 2: So Lamar, through his dominant years, he's always struggled with

502
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 2: his own divisional opponents. And we've saw them just play

503
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 2: you know a couple of weeks ago. The Bengals are

504
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 2: gonna be able to move the ball. We have no

505
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 2: doubt about that. We just is Lamar going to show

506
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 2: up and move the ball against his Bengals defense. That

507
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: is super suspect he should be able to. Yeah, but

508
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 2: I think Joe's gonna keep us in this one. So

509
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'm not going to force it. I'm

510
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: not going to force it two and a half because

511
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 2: I do think people listening to this you'll keep getting

512
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 2: a better number, and there are threes out there. So

513
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 2: right now two and a half, I'm with you. I

514
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 2: wouldn't make this into the contest, but three and a half,

515
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 2: that's gonna be a real conversation with Joe. He's just

516
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 2: as a dog. I talk about a dog bigger than three.

517
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 2: He's nineteen to three against the spread, So it's just

518
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 2: that's just an incredible number. And he's two and zero

519
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: this season since he's been back as a dog bigger

520
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 2: than three.

521
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: Simon, The Cleveland Browns are visiting the Chicago Bears, and

522
00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 1: that number has stayed at seven and a half at

523
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: it yet, let me ask you this, though it's going

524
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: to be so cold in Chicago, both teams are going

525
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 1: to want to run the ball. This is not going

526
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 1: to be a we said this last week, It's not

527
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: going to be a Shador Sanders game. It's it's going

528
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: to be a Cleveland Browns defense game this week. It's

529
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 1: not going to be a Shador Sanders game. It's going

530
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: to be a Quinche on Judskins game. It's going to

531
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: be an amazing rush offense against one of the best

532
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: rush defenses. It's going to be what can be an

533
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 1: effective rush offense against in the Bears, one of the

534
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: worst rush defenses. Do we ignore the line value because

535
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: we are in love with the Bears? Do we not

536
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: play a game that we would nine times out of

537
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: ten play because we lost with the Browns the past

538
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 1: week by betting on their defense.

539
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 3: Isn't this what we do on this show? Backing the Browns?

540
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you, Like I've come around, I'm going

541
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 2: to back the Browns. I don't feel good about it.

542
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 2: I'm just I am Yeah, I'm just worried. They've quit

543
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 2: on their coach end this season and we're basically been

544
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: this one because the Browns, as bad as they've been

545
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 2: this year, they've won a bunch of games outright, when

546
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 2: then the spread is above seven and a half, like

547
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 2: they've been pretty dominant for some reason, when they're big underdogs,

548
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 2: and you know, as a Bears fan, this is by

549
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 2: far the biggest spread of Kailbillim's career, he's never been

550
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: a seven a half point favorite, so unique spot. The

551
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 2: trends obviously hate the Chicago in this spot, just like

552
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: they did last week. Right, I gave you those stats.

553
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 2: I think they're one and eleven against the spread against

554
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: Green Bay. Well it's not much better the week after

555
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 2: they played Green Bay. So since twenty nineteen, green Bay

556
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 2: one eight and one against the spread. After they've played

557
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 2: the Packers when they're a favorite, the following game, they're

558
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 2: zero and three against the spread, So, you know, not ideal.

559
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: It seems like the type of thing where they put

560
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 2: so much emotion. So much of that divisional game makes sense, right,

561
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 2: especially now they're playing the Browns. Why wouldn't they have

562
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: a letdown game? Right? This is not a game that's

563
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 2: it's gonna be tough to get up to, let alone.

564
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: Chad said, They're going to be walking outside, it's gonna

565
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 2: be hitting in the face minus ten degrees and wind chill.

566
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 2: It's going to be a truly miserable experience that game.

567
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: So I love it, like this is my favorite type

568
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 2: of football games, the old school frozen field and it's

569
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: just the best. So I'll be with you on this

570
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 2: Cleveland side. They're just like I said, they just they're

571
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 2: making me lea confidence. I just can't believe how bad

572
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 2: the defense was against Tennessee last week against the run.

573
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 2: It was just alarming because they've been so dominant this season.

574
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 2: So try not to overreact. We expect to Cleveland to

575
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 2: bounce back here, especially defensively, but my god, I'm happy

576
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 2: if we can avoid this one other contests. Jet.

577
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: I don't have it making the contest right now. I

578
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: think there's other games. It's also an interesting brass balls opportunity.

579
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: It's not where I want to land on brass balls.

580
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: I got another one that's a contender, but I just

581
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: want to raise it that you both like the Browns.

582
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: I haven't pulled the trigger on it yet. I'm a

583
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: little bit nervous about it, but it's there. It's there

584
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: for the taking, and it's what we would normally do.

585
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: Detroit visiting Los Angeles. Rams talked about it under sharp calls.

586
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: This was a game you quietly talked about on Tuesday

587
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: with like a weird We've been doing this a long

588
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: time and I get like you mentioned a game.

589
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 3: You say it in a way that feels.

590
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: Like you almost don't want me to hear it, like

591
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: you like it so much, you just want to say

592
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 1: you like it because you're obligated to say truthful information

593
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: and your honest opinions on this show. But you'd prefer

594
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: nobody hear it at all. That was my takeaway from

595
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: the rams. The rams were five and a half. That

596
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: line's moving, it's moving in the rams direction. It's as

597
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: six at hard Rock. I've seen some six and a

598
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: half pop up. Am I misinterpreting this? Am I over?

599
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 3: Am? I? Am I putting too much into it?

600
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: No, not at all. I just again, this is a weird,

601
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 2: a weird job. It's a load of a juggling act.

602
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: I have people that pay. I know people don't believe it,

603
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: but people do pay in same amount of money for

604
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 2: my picks. I always have to give them the best

605
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 2: of the number, especially when if I like a game

606
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: a lot. So yeah, it was a little bit of

607
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: tongue in cheek. I showed my hand a little bit

608
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: that I really love this spot. I didn't want to

609
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 2: say too much of because I didn't want people to

610
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 2: miss the best of the number, which it's going now.

611
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: Like you said, it's it's hitting six almost every book,

612
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: So hopefully my client's got hopefully fans of the show

613
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 2: got it. But yeah, I love the spot. I love

614
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: the situation this Lions team. Sure can they cover and

615
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: win this game like they have the last four years

616
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,239
Speaker 2: with Campbell and the golf combo. Yeah, but we've been

617
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 2: talking about it. Just it's not hitting like it used to.

618
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: There is something different about this team, and other than

619
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 2: just the injuries, I feel like we've seen the Ben

620
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: Johnson effect really affect this team. They're just not the

621
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 2: same offensively spec and you have a guy like Dan

622
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: Campbell going for it every time he can on fourth

623
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 2: and two, fourth and three. And I've been thinking about

624
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 2: situationally where they're on the field or what the best

625
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 2: move is. And I can give all the stats if

626
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 2: you want about how great Golf is as a dog.

627
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 2: Right we know him and Campbell four point hunderdog or

628
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 2: more seventeen to three against the spread. You know, they

629
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 2: just they cover in this exact spot. It's what they've

630
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: done these last four years together. And I get that,

631
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 2: but I've talked about I just think there's something different,

632
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 2: and it's it's mcveigh's month. It's December. McVeigh since twenty

633
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 2: twenty one, sixteen to three against the spread in December.

634
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: The matchup, when I really break it down look into it,

635
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 2: I just see so many advantages for this Rams team

636
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: to attack this offensive line of Detroit. On the flip side,

637
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: you know, praise to the Detroit run defense. I think

638
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 2: they haven't had one hundred rusher all season and they've

639
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 2: been really dominating that aspect. But I think it's because

640
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 2: their secondary is so bad. Why would teams run it

641
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 2: where you can just pick up trunk yards every time

642
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 2: you drop back? And I think Pooka right now is

643
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 2: if he's not the number one receiver in the league

644
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: because of you know, Jackson Smith and Jigba, he's number

645
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: two in all the categories. He has the most receptions,

646
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: like yards, all that stuff. He's right behind JSN. And

647
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 2: on the flip side, we've talked with DeVante Adams. He's

648
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:18,479
Speaker 2: probably what the fourth or fifth best receiver in football.

649
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: He's got like fourteen touchdowns. So it's like it talk

650
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 2: about a dream scenario for the stafford in this matchup

651
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: indoors at home? Could she be in a shootout?

652
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 4: Right?

653
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 2: If you want to take a position in that way.

654
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 2: But I just feel like this type of game where

655
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: they're gonna try to take away Gibbs, make Golf beat

656
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 2: him downfield, and we've seen it. Golf has not done

657
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 2: well with pressure in his face, and it's the exact

658
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: type of game they'll get that. So yeah, I honestly

659
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 2: wanted to make this our our bet, but unfortunately it's

660
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,479
Speaker 2: moved too much, like it's it's minus six, which I'm

661
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: still betting to six. But if this was five and

662
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: a half, chat would I think we probably could agreed

663
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 2: on this being the pick for the day. But it's no.

664
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not gonna be a brass balls. I think

665
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to do something even brass and ballsier

666
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: for brass balls. But we both love the Rams here.

667
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: We both got into the Rams five and a half.

668
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: I hope everyone was listening on Tuesday, got the five

669
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: and a half. If you can get the six, great

670
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: get the six that you didn't get the best of it,

671
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: but you know it's still a good number. The matchup

672
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 1: here to me, you just said is the key. I

673
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: don't know what defense the Rams the Lions are going

674
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: to play like they tried playing zone. It was a

675
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 1: little bit more effective against the Cowboys, but the Rams

676
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 1: are not the Cowboys, like they can do it all.

677
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford is so good right now. Puka Nakua is

678
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: so good right now. They're playing that thirteen personnel. They

679
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: can deceive teams in so many different ways. They can

680
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: power run game, they can find guys open in the

681
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: middle of that zone. If that's what the Lions decided

682
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: to play, which they really haven't. They've done it once

683
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 1: this whole season. They're a Mando man team, and Stafford

684
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: eats up Manda Man. So it's a damned if you do,

685
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 1: damned if you don't scenario defensively for the Lions, who

686
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: have lost one of their best defensive players in Brian Branch.

687
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,879
Speaker 1: Carolina at the New Orleans Saints. The New Orleans Saints

688
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: plus two and a half, this was Simon says, there

689
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: were some threes available right after we got off the

690
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 1: air on Tuesday. For much of Tuesday, there was some

691
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: threes there. It's back down to two and a half.

692
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think it's gonna last. So, I mean,

693
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 1: I don't think the threes will. I think it could

694
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: get back to three, but I don't think the threes

695
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: are gonna last.

696
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 3: Uh. We hate betting against the Panthers.

697
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: We hate it, especially when they got a chance to

698
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: take control of the NFC South, the Darlings, the team

699
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: that we've loved for years.

700
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 3: But we're both on the Saints here.

701
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think threes will pop just because

702
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 2: the books they're getting so much Panthers money. I think

703
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: they're gonna need some Saints money and the only way

704
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: they're going to get is bipoping that three. Right, not

705
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: people are going to force and take the two and

706
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 2: a half until Sunday when they need to. It's last minute.

707
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 2: I think throughout the week you should see some three

708
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 2: spop up. And you know it's just because who's betting

709
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: the Saints, right, It's it's kind of a spy. You

710
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 2: don't really want to be back then, Like from the

711
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 2: general public's perspective, because they just went a really tough

712
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: divisional game now coming home. You know, anybody can look

713
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 2: at these numbers, but I was alarmed when the buddy

714
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 2: sent me these numbers about the Saints team. And I

715
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 2: gave you the stat right there last week on the

716
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 2: road individual as an underdog, they're eight now nine and

717
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 2: oh on the road. God, their home stats are terrible. Chat,

718
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: I cannot believe how bad these dats are since twenty

719
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: twenty is an underdog at home the Saints four and

720
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 2: seventeen straight up, five and sixteen against the spread. That's

721
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the worst mark in the NFL of

722
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: any team, right.

723
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: But simon, what is Bryce Young on the road as

724
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: a as a favorite?

725
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's never covered? Yeah, I just I just that

726
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 2: was just a simple Saint stat's how bad they've been.

727
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 2: So I love this one. Like you just said, it's

728
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 2: two it's too immovable objects meeting and something's got to give, right,

729
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 2: So you said it Bryce Young in his early career,

730
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 2: he's only been a favorite so many times, and you know,

731
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 2: eleven times he's been a straight up favorite. He is

732
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 2: not covered or won any of those games. He's zero

733
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: and eleven. So you're right, it's a unique spot. I

734
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 2: just want people to get to three just because of

735
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,479
Speaker 2: how bad that saints the Saints team. But we're gonna

736
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,959
Speaker 2: need every point we can get. But I've talked about

737
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 2: the Saints team surprisingly, you know, even going back to

738
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, they've always matched up really well. Against the Panthers.

739
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 2: Asn't matter if it was Derek Carr or Taysom Hill

740
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 2: at quarterback. They've just had a rotation of guys. It's

741
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 2: they've they've covered, They've played really well against the Panthers team,

742
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: so unique spot. Like you said, it's a game I'm

743
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 2: leaking a little bit of confidence on, which is you know,

744
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 2: just part of it. The more you dive into the

745
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 2: Saints team, it's just like, my god, how how do

746
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 2: they keep winning? And I'm not a couple people ask

747
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 2: me about Shuck because he is two hundred and one

748
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 2: to win Rookie of the Year. It really is just

749
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 2: about the way their their season can play out, right.

750
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 2: It's not do I really think this kid's gonna bet

751
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 2: beat out ted Aron McMillan or Dart Probably not right

752
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 2: if you go look at those guys numbers much better.

753
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 2: It's really just about how they end their season. The Saints. Basically,

754
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: if they win this game, they have kind of a

755
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 2: cake walk, Chad and in there's like outside chance scenario.

756
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 2: You know, the fact they play the Jets next week.

757
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 2: That's a big deal, right, Like, Okay, say they win

758
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: those two games. Now he's got the most wins of

759
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: all the rookie quarterbacks r he's up to five wins.

760
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 2: That's not nothing. So just to me, people asked thembout,

761
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: They're like, are you really betting two hundred to one

762
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 2: on Chuck to win Rookie of the Year. It's just

763
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 2: an outside shot he gets. If he can beat the Panthers,

764
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 2: that'd be pretty crazy. Then he beats the Jets again,

765
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 2: not as crazy. Then he's at Tennessee, that's a possibility,

766
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 2: outplays the other first number one overall pick. And then

767
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 2: he's at Atlanta. So it's like, none of those teams

768
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 2: are juggernauts. There is a path for Schuck to go

769
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 2: four and oh three and one and put up some

770
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 2: good numbers. I'll bet that two hundred to one, Like,

771
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: I'll take those odds third ten bucks on it. Why

772
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 2: not If you want to get really weird, you can

773
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 2: throw him in there with McCaffrey, who is the eighteen

774
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 2: oh one to be Offensive Player of the Year. He

775
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 2: might be a thousand thousand season. Like, you can bet

776
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,439
Speaker 2: those two together. All of a sudden you have three

777
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 2: hundred to one, Like, you can really get fun with

778
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 2: it with these long shot odds. So I had a

779
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 2: couple of people ask for like, are you really betting

780
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: Shuck the win Rookie of the Year. I don't really

781
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 2: believe it. I just when I saw that schedule, it's

782
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 2: like I squin in my eyes a little bit. I'm like,

783
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 2: I can see a path for three and one, and

784
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: if you can go six touchdowns one turnover in that stretch,

785
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 2: there's a path room to get a rook of the Year.

786
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 2: So just something to keep in mind if you're looking

787
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 2: for a fun lung shot future have a good time.

788
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 3: Throw the Chiefs to make the playoffs in there too.

789
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 3: Why not.

790
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: That's the craziest one of all. It's probably the worst odds.

791
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 3: Just go for it. Green Bay at Denver.

792
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: This was Chad's choice, the Green Bay Packers minus two.

793
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 3: I think that the Packers.

794
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: You and I had been struggling with the Packers all

795
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: year because all of the advanced metrics keep saying how

796
00:39:58,760 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: great they are.

797
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 3: But they hadn't seemed dominant on the field.

798
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 2: Right.

799
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: They were nine to three to one heading into that

800
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,439
Speaker 1: Bears game, And what I saw in that Bears game

801
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,439
Speaker 1: was just a complete team. Now, the Bears were able

802
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: to run the ball in the second half, but how

803
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: they were able to cover overall, and the way Jordan

804
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 1: Love was able to respond to pressure, the fact they've

805
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: gotten so many of their receivers back.

806
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 3: I love this roster. I love the speed in their defense.

807
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: I love the way Jordan Love throws against man coverage,

808
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: which is what the Broncos are going to play. They're

809
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 1: going to go against single high coverage, which is what

810
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: Jordan Love loves to throw against. Everything about this matchup

811
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: to me, I feel like I'm getting about a point

812
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: of value. I think that the Packers should be three

813
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,720
Speaker 1: point favorites because I think the ultimate decision here coaching

814
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 1: is even defense probably even. I think the difference is

815
00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: the quarterback, and that's worth a lot to me. Give

816
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 1: me the Greeny Bad Packers two points favorites.

817
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we both love the Packers a game that

818
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 2: no matter what, if it was two and a half,

819
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 2: I'd be all over it. Not gonna let the hooks

820
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 2: carry me off. Just think matchup wise, they're the better team.

821
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 2: They should probably be minus three and tons of respect

822
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 2: by the professionals on this Broncos team right for good reason.

823
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 2: They they're weally well coached. They've really grind out a

824
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 2: lot of these games. And we've talked about bo Nicks

825
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 2: as much as he's regressed in some people's eyes this year,

826
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 2: he's been incredible in these fourth quarters, leading this team

827
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 2: to come back wins, and it's just been really impressive.

828
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 2: And you know, I gave out that amazing stat I

829
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 2: have a ingrams. It's just a unique spot. This is

830
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: another team just like the Patriots. They've won ten straight

831
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 2: grames the Broncos and now they are a home underdog.

832
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 2: So since two thousand and five, eight teams have closed

833
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 2: an underdog in this exact spot. Two five and one

834
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 2: against has spread these teams. So they'll let you know

835
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 2: right there, the Broncos, this is not a good spot.

836
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: You might think it is. You're getting at a home

837
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 2: dog here, you're you're fired up, but long term it's

838
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: just a loser. The books are kind of telling you

839
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: right the profession are ton here. Which team is the

840
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: better team? They just throughout the records rights, it matters

841
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 2: what happens on the field, and you've seen it this year.

842
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 2: In my opinion, the NFC to me is just a

843
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: better problem than the AFC. Like the AFC, some of

844
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 2: these teams have so many more weaknesses in the NFC,

845
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 2: and we talked there's something missing with this Green Bay team.

846
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 2: I don't know if the Broncos are the type of

847
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: team that can exploit those type of scenarios. So I

848
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 2: really do love them here. And you know, if it

849
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 2: gets the three, I get if you have some type

850
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 2: of hesitation there, but hopefully you can get the two.

851
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 2: The minus two and a half there should be up

852
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 2: there still by Sunday. I just think professional money. Anytime

853
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 2: Broncos touch a three, they'll hit it. So I'm hoping

854
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 2: people won't be scared off by this one. I really

855
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: love the Packers in the spot.

856
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 3: We're total agreement here.

857
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: There's twos and two and a half's out there if

858
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: you're not in a hard rock state, so definitely look around.

859
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, we're the Packers are going to be in

860
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: the contest.

861
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: There's not And I did have a chace that I

862
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: didn't want to give out just because Jay colors in

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00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 2: the stat Packers are one in seven in their history

864
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 2: on the road in Denver. The only win came back

865
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Speaker 2: in two thousand and seven in overtime, Brett fav beaten

866
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Speaker 2: Jay Cutler.

867
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Speaker 3: As Jay Culer would say, don't care.

868
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: Last game on the board that I want to talk

869
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,879
Speaker 1: about I think should be our brass balls Better the Week.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it, the Minnesota Vikings visiting the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: Are you with me? Are you with me?

872
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 3: On the Minnesota Vikings?

873
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: Love the Minnesota Vikings? Should we make it our brass

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Speaker 1: balls presented by hard Rock Bet.

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00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:36,720
Speaker 2: Still it definitely balls?

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00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 3: You bet all right?

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00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings plus six at hard Rock Bets against the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. That is our brass balls Better the Week,

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Speaker 2: You know what it takes. It takes brass balls.

881
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 1: Forget about JJ McCarthy for a second. The Vikings defense

882
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: has been playing lights out the past few weeks, just.

883
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 3: Getting better and better and better.

884
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: And to me, what they can do to potentially neutralize

885
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott and the Dallas Cowboys offense versus what the

886
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: Cowboys can do to defend against anything that the Vikings

887
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: are going to do is so much greater that I

888
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: have to believe in what I've seen. When Kevin O'Connell

889
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: can just tell his quarterback and put him in a

890
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: halfway decent position against a defense that is as bad

891
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: as the one they just played in Washington, So I'm

892
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: buying the Minnesota Vikings.

893
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 2: I don't hate it. Like I've talked a little bit

894
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 2: about it, this is a game I early bet the

895
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 2: Vikings and it's kind of the what you talked about it.

896
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 2: It's really a bet on their defense and this matchup

897
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 2: that I do think they'll be able to get stops

898
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 2: against the Cowboys. On the flip side, you know, as

899
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,439
Speaker 2: bad as JJ's looked, you've seen him when he's on script.

900
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 2: They can move the ball really well. And this is

901
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 2: a great de defense for Kosu de script against There's

902
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 2: just a lot of things you can take advantage of.

903
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: So you know, it's a rare opportunity you have. A

904
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys team is a big favorite against what we

905
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 2: consider still being an undervalued Vikings team, and when you

906
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 2: really break it down, they're not that different really. I mean,

907
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 2: as great as Dak has been, you know, these two

908
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 2: teams just aren't that different. And the public perceives is

909
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 2: totally different.

910
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 4: Right.

911
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 2: I think you can see the numbers I'm looking at,

912
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 2: which is basically eighty percent of the best eighty percent

913
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 2: of the money all that's just coming on this Dallas

914
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: Cowboys team, and it is a unique spot back in

915
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 2: Minnesota that we're not We're not the biggest Minnesota backers here.

916
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 2: We have not really been on them or gone against

917
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 2: them that much this season, but this does feel like

918
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: a unique spot with this number at six to be

919
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 2: back in them.

920
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 3: For every season, there is a time, Simon.

921
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 2: We have sertain teams we lock in on and I

922
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: have a couple more games if you want to run

923
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: through of just crazy stats for you. Always, always, like

924
00:45:57,239 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: I said, I am, there's no one where a handicappy

925
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans game, I believe on Tuesday said I was

926
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: on the forty nine ers. Yeah right, Yeah, I have flipped.

927
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 2: I have been bullied by professional betters. I am coming

928
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,720
Speaker 2: around on Tennessee. I'm gonna take a position on Tennessee.

929
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 2: But again, I don't know if we'll make it our contest, but.

930
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 3: No fucking way, We're just not gonna do it.

931
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 2: Wait to hear these stats, chaff I.

932
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: Don't want to hear the stats, Simon, Simon. Do we

933
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 1: need Matt Mitchell to go back and pull the clip

934
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: that we played on Tuesday?

935
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 3: What did we say? What did we say?

936
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 2: I'm not putting in the contest. I'm just giving you

937
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,839
Speaker 2: the stats for Thursday show with our loyal fans, which

938
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 2: I hope they listened to me. I said to Fade me.

939
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 3: This is on you, this is on you. I take no.

940
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: Responsibility Nola, No Nela, Kyle Shanahan and these forty nine ers.

941
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 2: They are four and eight against the spread off a

942
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 2: bye week, which is pretty extreme. They've lost three straight.

943
00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 2: They're one to five off the bye week since twenty

944
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: twenty one. He faces a team below five hundred A

945
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 2: Shanahan zero and three off a bye week against the spread.

946
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 2: So I don't know why in my mind I thought

947
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 2: Channon was great off of bye week. I think I

948
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 2: said that on Tuesday when I went and looked it up.

949
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 2: It's atrocious off of bye week. And that's all I

950
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,399
Speaker 2: needed to flip me because I just I cannot get

951
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 2: this Tennessee team right. And it's like, what am I

952
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 2: missing here? Why are the pros betting this team again?

953
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 2: And there's your answer. So let's move it on to

954
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 2: the next game, because, like Chet said, we're not gonna

955
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 2: betting this one. Pittsburgh Miami. Where were you at?

956
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 1: You were on Miami right or I I was on

957
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 1: Miami plus three and a half on Tuesday's.

958
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 2: That to me does feel like the sharp side the

959
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 2: three and a half. But if you're like me and

960
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 2: you just don't want to throw out the spread, you

961
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 2: want to go strict money line, which is what I

962
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 2: want to do. Here some amazing stats about Steelers of

963
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 2: the money line and this exact opportunity. Since ninety ninety

964
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 2: two on Monday Night football games, the Steelers are twenty

965
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 2: two and one straight up. Their only loss was in

966
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 2: twenty twenty against the Commanders. I don't know if you

967
00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 2: remember twenty twenty, there were no stands in the stands.

968
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: That's throw it out. They are just unbelievable at home

969
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 2: on Monday Night. If you throw that one out, they're

970
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: twenty two and to ozh straight up on Monday Night

971
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 2: football at home since ninety ninety two. In his career,

972
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers eleven and two straight up on Monday Night football.

973
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 2: So there's just a lot of trends at point to

974
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 2: a liking it. And let's get to all the two

975
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 2: of stats. Two outdoors in the cold, two and seven

976
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 2: straight up, one and eight against the spread in his

977
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:29,239
Speaker 2: career when it's under forty degrees. He's zero and five

978
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 2: straight up, one and four against the spread, losing those

979
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 2: games by nineteen points per game. So, my god, we

980
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 2: know two is horrible and the cold. I had no

981
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 2: idea the stats were that bad. So with Chad sick,

982
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 2: can be true? Right? This Miami team have been hiding

983
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 2: to it for a couple of weeks. Can they just

984
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 2: lean into the run and get away with it? Possibly?

985
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 2: But my god, do all those stats point to them

986
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,040
Speaker 2: just laying a total egg here in Miami, especially coming

987
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 2: off a divisional win on the road now traveling to Pittsburgh,

988
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 2: it seems like the perfect spot to fade this team.

989
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 2: So I'm still gonna be dug in Steelers minus three.

990
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 2: I'll still take it. But I could not believe those

991
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 2: Monday Night's stats for this this Pittsburgh team historically, they

992
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 2: just came to dominate. And my last game game again,

993
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 2: we don't. I think you more had a renon than

994
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 2: I did. I just I couldn't really get behind Washington

995
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 2: or the Giants. I just I remember when you brought

996
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 2: the game up. Did you like Giants or dold you

997
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 2: like Washington? I don't.

998
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: I liked Washington, but so at the time I thought

999
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: it might be Jayden Daniels. Now we know it's not

1000
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 1: going to be Jayden Daniels, which.

1001
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 2: Is to me is better. That's to me is why

1002
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 2: I'm kind I kind of like Washington now. And the

1003
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 2: line reflects that it's come down a little bit. It's

1004
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 2: come down for the two and a half to two.

1005
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 2: This is my favorite lazy man stat. We always talk

1006
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 2: about lazy man stats. I love a good like. Give

1007
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 2: me a good stat. I don't need to think about

1008
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 2: the game anymore. I'll just bet it off this stat blindly.

1009
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,280
Speaker 2: What have we been doing so well that we missed

1010
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 2: last week? We've been betting teams that's be bet on

1011
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 2: teams that get shut out. Yeah, and it's been tried

1012
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 2: or true for me and Chad for years. And the

1013
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 2: stats backup since twenty fifteen, teams that got shot in

1014
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 2: their previous game thirty four, seventeen to three against the spread.

1015
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 2: This season four to zero against the spread. So if

1016
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 2: you just want to lazy man blindly bet it, it's

1017
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 2: a good bet. It just shows these teams that get

1018
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 2: shut out or embarrassed, these are growing ass men. They

1019
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 2: bounce back like whatever it is. We've seen it time

1020
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 2: and time again. These teams tend to bounce back the

1021
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 2: Commanders if you go through it. They've owned the Giants

1022
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 2: in this matchup. Like I always talk to the divisional matchups,

1023
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 2: the Commanders, who have just been awful throughout these last

1024
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 2: four or five years. Even the Giants were semi good

1025
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,800
Speaker 2: with Daniel Jones, they'd always beat them in this matchup.

1026
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 2: So it is unique. I kind of like the Commander,

1027
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 2: especially a plus two and a half. I know it's

1028
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 2: two now at hard Rocks. There's a bunch of two

1029
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,439
Speaker 2: and a half's up there. I've come around the Commanders team.

1030
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 2: I think it's probably a good spot, especially the fact

1031
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 2: that Mariota is back, and just look at the splits

1032
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 2: everyone's left them for debt. People are now hammering and

1033
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 2: backing this Giants team. They believe in the Giants as

1034
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 2: a home favorite. So it feels have got a rare

1035
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 2: opportunity to jump on this Washington team.

1036
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1039
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1040
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 2: I had to give out all these stats. I just

1041
00:50:59,280 --> 00:50:59,879
Speaker 2: I love them.

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Speaker 1: conditions apply. Concerned about gambling in Florida, call one eight

1074
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 1: three three play wise. In Indiana, if you were someone

1075
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: you know has a gambling problem and wants help, call

1076
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: one eight hundred and nine with it gambling problem called

1077
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: one eight hundred gambler in Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, Michigan, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee,

1078
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 1: and Virginia.

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00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 3: All right, what are you laughing at?

1080
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 2: I have tons of people sending me all these videos

1081
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 2: from people in sports media about Jalen Hurts. Like, but

1082
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,319
Speaker 2: people are like, should Hurts be benched? Matt Mitchell said

1083
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 2: he's willing to die for Josh Allen, a man everyone

1084
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 2: won an AFC Championship game. Eagles fans have a quarterback

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00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 2: that's taken them two Super Bowls. There is should this

1086
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 2: guy be benched? Two worlds? We live in two worlds,

1087
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 2: Chad and the other world sucks. I can't imagine being

1088
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 2: in a world that you want to sit hurts and

1089
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 2: you hate Josh Allen. Those people just suck.

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00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:36,720
Speaker 1: That's why I so love Philly sports fans but also

1091
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: so love Buffalo sports fans. They are such distinct personalities, Like,

1092
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: it's just so much fun to engage with both groups

1093
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: all of the time.

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00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 3: It's totally amazing. The reason why.

1095
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: We're that Matt Mitchell said he would die for Josh

1096
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 1: Allen is because Simon the other day sent in our

1097
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,839
Speaker 1: group text chain video of Josh Allen being interviewed when

1098
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: he had just gotten to Wyoming and he was the

1099
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: second string backup quarterback and they're asking him about the

1100
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 1: snow and he's so wholesome and earnest, he's.

1101
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 2: Like stuttering over his own words. He's so young and sweet, so.

1102
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: Young and sweet and innocent, like a babe in the woods.

1103
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 3: He's like, I've never seen snow like this. He's like,

1104
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 3: what do you like to do?

1105
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: Well? I just want to go out to eat with

1106
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 1: my friends and you know, play football, anything football related.

1107
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: That's It's like this guy eventually married Hailey Steinfeld.

1108
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:33,280
Speaker 2: It became Superman.

1109
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 3: It's became a superman. Totally awesome. Matt.

1110
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell makes good choices in his heroes. All right, Simon,

1111
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: one of your biggest bets, pull up those.

1112
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 2: Pints and be a man. I mean to show man

1113
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 2: a little bit. Love the Rams, obviously you do.

1114
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't. That didn't come across.

1115
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, good, physician Chad read it pretty good. I do

1116
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,919
Speaker 2: love the Chiefs. I'm getting a little weary because it's

1117
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 2: so much love. Like everyone I talked to is right

1118
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 2: there with us. I've slowed down a little bit, but

1119
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 2: I do really love the Chiefs. In that spot, we

1120
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 2: talk about the Bills. I really like the Bills, and

1121
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 2: it's not one of my bigger bets right now. I

1122
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 2: can see myself getting there, so we just city right now.

1123
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,919
Speaker 2: My two biggest bets for sure, Green Bay the two

1124
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 2: two and a half and the Rams minus five and

1125
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 2: a half. I haven't touched so much the Rams at six,

1126
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 2: but I wouldn't let it scare me off. I'll still

1127
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 2: bet it comes up Sunday underdog parlay. My dog blocks

1128
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 2: your dog, Your dog blocks mot dog.

1129
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 1: I have New Orleans, I have Cincinnati, I have Washington,

1130
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:39,920
Speaker 1: love it.

1131
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 3: I have Minnesota. Okay, I love that too, Minnesota.

1132
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 2: And for our last one, Cleveland.

1133
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:53,720
Speaker 3: I was looking for a decent sized number.

1134
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 2: I get where you're coming from. Let me be the

1135
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 2: bigger scumbag here. Give me the Raiders plus four nine.

1136
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 3: I knew you were going to say that I gotta do.

1137
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,439
Speaker 2: It again this. I think they're gonna win. They should

1138
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,720
Speaker 2: blow out this Raiders team. But we've seen in football

1139
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: when when when this when teams collapse under their own weight.

1140
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 2: This is uh this, this tends to happen. So just

1141
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 2: at that number, I have to bet it. That's too

1142
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 2: big for you.

1143
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,280
Speaker 1: You really just want the conversation about Jalen Hurst to continue,

1144
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 1: not at all.

1145
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,760
Speaker 2: I just I want to make money off the suffering.

1146
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 2: That's the key here.

1147
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: Uh favorite, By the way, the only of the big

1148
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:35,879
Speaker 1: numbers you know, Seattle, Indie and Arizona and Houston and

1149
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: uh Vegas and Philly. I forgot the other big number

1150
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 1: that we were talking about before. Tennessee, Vegas and Philly

1151
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 1: is the only one that's moved in the direction of

1152
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: the underdog.

1153
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 3: It was a twelve and a half. Now it's eleven

1154
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:48,280
Speaker 3: and a half eleven.

1155
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: The other ones have just gone up, except for Arizona,

1156
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 1: which is holding strong.

1157
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 3: So we know the wise guys are on Vegas here.

1158
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: Who's our favorites, Parlay, I feel like we got to

1159
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:59,919
Speaker 1: go like we got we gotta go with the Rams, Yeah,

1160
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: green Bay, Green Bay, Kansas City, Buffalo.

1161
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:15,320
Speaker 2: Would you say Buffalo? Buffalo? You know obviously I'm people.

1162
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 2: I gave him that stat the Pittsburgh one.

1163
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say.

1164
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 2: It's got to be a play, a sharp versus square,

1165
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 2: sharp versus square.

1166
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 3: This week we tied.

1167
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 2: I'll do because I tend to go dogs here. I'm

1168
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 2: just so much better at them. But I'll go. I

1169
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 2: gotta do it. I guess I got I'll go Rams

1170
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 2: minus six.

1171
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 1: Okay, Rams minus six, Chad, Let's see Chad. Chad's choice

1172
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: was the Packers, Simon says was the Saints. Brass Balls

1173
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: was the Vikings.

1174
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna go with the Bills.

1175
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 2: I love it.

1176
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 3: You think I just jinks, Matt Mitchell, Is that what

1177
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 3: you're saying.

1178
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 2: A little bit? I beg. I'm already drink some I

1179
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 2: love the Bills so much here too, And it's just

1180
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 2: that's how history happens. Like I said, you just it's

1181
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 2: the ones you don't see coming that hurt the most.

1182
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:14,920
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm worried about here. Brother.

1183
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: Well, look, we're we're rioting a knife's edge all season

1184
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 1: with some of these teams, right, like trying to get

1185
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 1: off the wagon with the Chiefs, the Bills, the Ravens,

1186
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: Like trying to see where the transitions. This is betting.

1187
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,439
Speaker 1: You're trying to see the future. It doesn't always work out.

1188
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: When we reconvene on Sunday, we're going to be talking about.

1189
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 3: The Chiefs, the Bills.

1190
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: Cleveland will have a conversation, the Rams, New Orleans will

1191
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: be in the conversation. Green Bay, Minnesota, Maybe Washington, That's

1192
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 1: what I think, Maybe Washington. Those are going to be

1193
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 1: the games from which we choose our final five.

1194
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 3: If I had to make a prediction.

1195
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: This has been Sharper Square, part of the Volume podcast

1196
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 1: network will be back on Sunday morning, Sharper Square YouTube.

1197
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 3: Don't forget.

1198
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: You can ease drop on this very intimate conversation as

1199
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: we try to.

1200
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 3: Plan for the misery and glory of the day.

1201
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: We'll be back on sharper Square YouTube Sunday night, seven

1202
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: point thirty ish after America's Game of the Week, and

1203
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,360
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1204
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,040
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1205
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:24,080
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1206
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:27,200
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1207
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 3: Love you.

1208
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 4: Together, we can do it.

1209
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,360
Speaker 3: Nobody can do it alone, but together we can do it.

1210
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: Let's play our kind.

1211
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 4: Of football and we'll come out of them with a win.

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Speaker 4: Let's go