WEBVTT - Buck’s First Thoughts - 1/12/21

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<v Speaker 1>You're in the Freedom Hunt. This is the Buck Sexton

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome friends, Great to have you here with me on

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<v Speaker 1>The Buck Sexton Show. I am very concerned, as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>about this trend of censorship that's happening all across social media,

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<v Speaker 1>because you have to remember, they're not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>judicious in the application of this. They're not going to say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>only the really bad people on the right, and there

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<v Speaker 1>are certainly some only those people are going to be punished. No,

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<v Speaker 1>there's going to be mass purges not only of individuals,

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<v Speaker 1>but also of ideas, in some cases, ideas that are

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<v Speaker 1>really central policy debates. We should have seen this coming

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<v Speaker 1>because it wasn't the election. You have to remember, it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't the election that was the original reason for online censorship.

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<v Speaker 1>It was COVID nineteen lockdowns and mask effectiveness, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>that's a different thing, isn't it than just saying anything

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<v Speaker 1>outright about masks if you even question the effectiveness of them,

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<v Speaker 1>something that in the beginning of twenty twenty, as you've

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<v Speaker 1>no doubt heard me talk about many times, doctor Fauci

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<v Speaker 1>suggested there was essentially no effectiveness. That was what Fauci said.

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<v Speaker 1>They can pretend he didn't. But now if you even

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<v Speaker 1>question it, you are d platformed, you're attacked, you are banned,

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<v Speaker 1>you're censored. And we have been led to believe through

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<v Speaker 1>four years that the real threat of authoritarianism, and the

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<v Speaker 1>heart of authoritarianism, is the concept of you must obey.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not about your consent. You must obey, and

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<v Speaker 1>there are there are threats. There is eventually the threat

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<v Speaker 1>of force attached to this, But even in the earlier stages,

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<v Speaker 1>it's obey or you can't speak out without fear of

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<v Speaker 1>being censored by platforms. Obey or maybe you can't even

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<v Speaker 1>conduct your business anymore. You'll be boycotted. Obey or you

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<v Speaker 1>won't be able to use banking services, You'll be kicked

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<v Speaker 1>out of essential parts of day to day life until

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<v Speaker 1>you submit. You must submit or else. We've been told

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<v Speaker 1>for four years that the big threat of this came

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<v Speaker 1>from Donald Trump and the right when all along, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's really no serious disagreement about this. All along, there

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<v Speaker 1>has been a complete opposition to this president from the media,

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<v Speaker 1>from Silicon Valley and from much of corporate America. Look

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<v Speaker 1>at what happened during the BLM riots and protests. There

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<v Speaker 1>were lawful BLM protests, to be sure, but there were

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<v Speaker 1>also a lot of riots, a lot of destruction of property,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of assaults on police. Corporate America was almost

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<v Speaker 1>uniformly supportive of those protests. Corporate America was sending them money,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was no condemnation of political violence or riots.

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<v Speaker 1>Social media allows you to say things like racist cops

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<v Speaker 1>murdered this person, and then when we find out more

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<v Speaker 1>facts and we know that it's not actually not a

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<v Speaker 1>murder and it was not motivated by racism based on

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<v Speaker 1>anything that we know, there's no fact check run on that.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no additional context that's put out there. So we

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<v Speaker 1>know that there is a capricious application of the terms

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<v Speaker 1>of service, whether it's about COVID lockdowns or BLM and

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<v Speaker 1>political violence. They're playing games, folks. They're not applying these

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<v Speaker 1>standards honestly. In fact, they're weaponizing the standards against one side.

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<v Speaker 1>Where does the greatest concern of authoritarianism come from? Look

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<v Speaker 1>show me a regime around the world, either today or

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<v Speaker 1>in history that was truly an authoritarian state. And ask

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<v Speaker 1>yourself this question. Was the press such as it was

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<v Speaker 1>in complete opposition to the ruling party or totally doing

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<v Speaker 1>the bidding of the ruling party, And you'll come to

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<v Speaker 1>a very straightforward conclusion. Now, there may be some opposition

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<v Speaker 1>papers here and there, a little bit there may be.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you ever have the entirety of the corporate

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<v Speaker 1>establishment and the information establishment and the intellectual class, so

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<v Speaker 1>to speak, completely united against a truly authoritarian regime. No,

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<v Speaker 1>because you couldn't have. You couldn't have such a governing

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<v Speaker 1>a governing system. You couldn't have somebody in total control

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<v Speaker 1>with so many powerful forces arrayed against them. I bring

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<v Speaker 1>this up between because my concern now is that we're

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<v Speaker 1>heading toward what is supposed to be a benevolent authoritarianism

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<v Speaker 1>of the left and the Democrat Party, but will end

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<v Speaker 1>up just being the authoritarianism. That's what we're actually going

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<v Speaker 1>to get. They think it's for our own good. We

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<v Speaker 1>have to censor bad ideas. Got to keep you safe,

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<v Speaker 1>so you can't question lockdowns or masks. Got to get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of political violence. But we're only going to do

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<v Speaker 1>it from the right. And by the way, I support

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<v Speaker 1>the elimination of political violence, but I do think it

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<v Speaker 1>should be supported in all kinds of politics and from

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<v Speaker 1>all sides of the aisle, and from American political conversation

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<v Speaker 1>and discourse. So notice how there's there's just a complete

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<v Speaker 1>lack of understanding of what will really happen, what we're

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<v Speaker 1>facing when you have a government that's coming into power

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<v Speaker 1>here that is almost messianic. I mean, it has a

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<v Speaker 1>zeal to do things in your life. Save what you

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<v Speaker 1>all about Trump, much of his governing philosophy, whatever however

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<v Speaker 1>you want to describe it, involved letting people do what

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<v Speaker 1>they were going to do, and he wasn't trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get all up and everything that your life is about

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<v Speaker 1>day in and day out. That's about to change your choices.

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<v Speaker 1>Your freedoms are going to be under assault in unprecedented

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<v Speaker 1>ways from people who believe that even if they're not

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<v Speaker 1>helping you, they're helping society. You see, they're assisting, they're

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<v Speaker 1>advancing the collective. And so whatever whatever downfall this this creates,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever downside this creates for you, is irrelevant, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be echoed by everything. Everything you're seeing in

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<v Speaker 1>the mainstream media, everything you're going to be seeing from

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<v Speaker 1>Silicon Valley. I mean, if you wanted to create an

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<v Speaker 1>authoritarian America having Silicon Valley and nine five percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the journalistic establishment and a truly angry and emboldened Democrat Party,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it is a concern. It's a worry because they're

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<v Speaker 1>not saying this would be a perfect opportunity for Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Biden and the Democrats to say, everybody, we are reconciling

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<v Speaker 1>as a nation. The election is over. Joe Biden one,

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<v Speaker 1>he will be president, Kamala Harris will be vice president,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna be a good administration for all Americans. No,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not purging, we're not settling scores, We're not doing

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<v Speaker 1>any of that stuff. And I tell you this, it

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<v Speaker 1>would be if a lot of people would be very

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<v Speaker 1>receptive of that message, including I think a lot a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people who are Republicans. They would say, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and if they took those actions in good faith, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't it be nice. I would rather actually live in

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<v Speaker 1>America where we can debate policy issues, but by and large,

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<v Speaker 1>politics as much less an obsession of individuals where and

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<v Speaker 1>it has to be for some folks because you've seen

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they've the lockdown mentality has destroyed countless lives

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<v Speaker 1>this year, and so politics, even if you didn't care

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<v Speaker 1>about it before, it cares about you. So it's been unavoidable.

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<v Speaker 1>I would prefer us to go to a place where

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<v Speaker 1>it's more of a of an intellectual and curiosity hobby. Right, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on in politics today? Right before you check

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<v Speaker 1>out the sports section or look at what soap operas

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna watch. I don't know how many of you

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<v Speaker 1>watch soap operas, but you get the idea. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that would be a healthier place for us to be

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<v Speaker 1>as a country, where you know, yes, we have our politics,

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<v Speaker 1>but we have these other areas of public life where

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have to always be an R or a

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<v Speaker 1>D or whatever else people are. But here's my warning

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<v Speaker 1>to all of us. I don't think that's where we're

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<v Speaker 1>heading at all. I think everything is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>even more political because the people that think that Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump was a fascist and that they believe that his

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<v Speaker 1>supporters have to also pay a price, and that price

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<v Speaker 1>is not just losing the election, which is very very disconcerting.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, he lost. It's done, it's over, Okay, it's finished,

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<v Speaker 1>and that hurts to say for a lot of people's

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<v Speaker 1>that makes them pretty depressed. But that's not sufficient in

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<v Speaker 1>the eyes of the left. There has to be a

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<v Speaker 1>whole other level here. They want a repudiation not only

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<v Speaker 1>of Trump ideas, but of one's former support for this president.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where this is all going. They want total and

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<v Speaker 1>complete submission and the acceptance of our tech overlords and

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<v Speaker 1>their view of what is acceptable speech. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest threat to day to day individual freedom i've in America,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly since the darkest days of nine to eleven and

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<v Speaker 1>the the lockdown and crackdown afterwards on a whole host

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<v Speaker 1>of activities and ideas. But with this one, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>that out. There's not that there's al Qaeda, there's some

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<v Speaker 1>external enemy. The enemy that the Democrat sy is is internal,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're they're pushing this with an increase in domestic

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<v Speaker 1>terror investigations and prosecutions, referring to not just people that

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<v Speaker 1>broke the law and storm the Capitol and the rioters,

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<v Speaker 1>but referring to anyone running around DC as a terrorists

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<v Speaker 1>or terrorists in waiting. They're going to be very broad

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<v Speaker 1>with how they apply these definitions and They're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be very ruthless with the way they try to exact revenge.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want us all to be prepared for this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is going to be a challenging time for those

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<v Speaker 1>of us who do not agree with whatever the Biden

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<v Speaker 1>Harris agenda is going to be, and who fight against

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<v Speaker 1>the lockdowns, who fight against the digital tyranny that is

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<v Speaker 1>upon us. Now we are on We are on defense

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<v Speaker 1>big time, and a lot of us got used to

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<v Speaker 1>being on political offense for a few years, but the

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<v Speaker 1>pendulum has swung far to the other side. Now. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not a cause for despair. It's just a cause

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<v Speaker 1>for looking at the reality and preparing for it, understanding

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<v Speaker 1>who you trust, who you're alongside, and how we move

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<v Speaker 1>forward together. And a big part of this is the

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<v Speaker 1>battle over tech and over social media and the Internet,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the biggest advancement in human communication certainly since electricity,

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<v Speaker 1>and before that, you'd have to say the printing press, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is enormous and we cannot allow this

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<v Speaker 1>to become dominated by one set of beliefs. And I

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<v Speaker 1>believe that it'll really tear the country apart if that's

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to continue, or if that's allowed to continue on

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<v Speaker 1>its current trend, and with that, I'm glad to see

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<v Speaker 1>that there's the beginnings at least of a resistance and

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<v Speaker 1>a pushback to the crackdown from Facebook and others. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>dive into that. Thanks for listening to The Buck Sexton

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<v Speaker 1>Show podcast. Get the latest news and information from book

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<v Speaker 1>by heading to buck Sexton dot com. Well, we know

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<v Speaker 1>this was organized online. We know that we again took

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<v Speaker 1>down qan on Croud Boys, stop this deal, anything that

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<v Speaker 1>was talking about possible violence last week. Our enforcements never perfect,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm sure there were still things on Facebook. I

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<v Speaker 1>think these events were large organized on platforms that don't

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<v Speaker 1>have our abilities to stop hate, and don't have our

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<v Speaker 1>standards and don't have our transparency. But certainly to this day,

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<v Speaker 1>we're working to find any single mention that might be

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<v Speaker 1>meaning to and making sure we get it down as

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<v Speaker 1>quickly as possible. This is just not true. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook CEO Cheryl Sandberg when she says that this can't

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<v Speaker 1>be done on Facebook, or that this wasn't done on Facebook,

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<v Speaker 1>or that there have not been violent riots planned and

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<v Speaker 1>executed using platforms like Twitter and Facebook. That's just not accurate.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you look back at news stories stretching back

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<v Speaker 1>for years. There's been all kinds of horrible stuff, horrible

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that has transited the the servers and platforms and

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<v Speaker 1>put on your screen, from Facebook, from Twitter, from these

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<v Speaker 1>because their platforms, and they have this Section two thirty

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<v Speaker 1>protection that allows them to be platforms, but they are

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<v Speaker 1>now acting as publishers because they're taking editorial lines and

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<v Speaker 1>they're not they're not applying standards without politicization. So they

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<v Speaker 1>want to have it both ways, and that's the fundamental

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<v Speaker 1>issue here, and they're getting away with it. They're getting

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<v Speaker 1>away with it. When she says that the Capitol Hill

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<v Speaker 1>riots we're not organized on Facebook, that's a very you

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<v Speaker 1>know that, that's a very interesting position for it to to take.

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<v Speaker 1>How would they how would they even know? And how

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<v Speaker 1>quickly are they taking things off? You're really going to

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<v Speaker 1>tell me that Facebook, with its billions of users and

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<v Speaker 1>all the people that gathered together and went to DC

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<v Speaker 1>and anybody who was talking about criminal activity, they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't use Facebook. It was all on parlor. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the allegation. They better prove that one. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>see the proof, because I know that Facebook has been

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<v Speaker 1>used to plan geehottest terror attacks. I mean, you look

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<v Speaker 1>at these other platforms. There's all kinds of horrible stuff

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<v Speaker 1>going on. But we don't hold the phone companies responsible

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<v Speaker 1>for what any lunatic, you know, if a if a

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<v Speaker 1>mafia boss calls in an assassination, you know, a hit

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<v Speaker 1>on somebody using a phone, we don't blame the cell

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<v Speaker 1>phone company. Oh I didn't you want to stop this?

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<v Speaker 1>It's impossible to have perfect moderation, and that seems to

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<v Speaker 1>be the standard that they're holding Parlor to where they

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<v Speaker 1>pulled down violent content or incendiary content. Maybe they're not

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<v Speaker 1>as efficient as Facebook, but they haven't said, well, let's

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<v Speaker 1>just increase your efficiency. You know, when you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon Web Services AWS pulling Parlor off the Internet, it

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<v Speaker 1>isn't Oh, we'll work with you so that you guys

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<v Speaker 1>we can all agree. I want the rules of the

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<v Speaker 1>road here, and you're going to enforce them. It's no, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>you're done. We think there's too much violent stuff on

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<v Speaker 1>your site. Twitter is full of horrible stuff. Horrible stuff

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<v Speaker 1>they've got, uh, you know, Iranian politicians and and and

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<v Speaker 1>you know Russian dictator and they've got all kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>wacko awful propaganda on there calling for genocide against human beings.

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<v Speaker 1>I the Chinese commun his party can spee whatever nonsense

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<v Speaker 1>they want on Twitter, and they don't get any you know,

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<v Speaker 1>push back from these authorities. So we know that the

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<v Speaker 1>standard is a let's crush conservative standard. And it reminds

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<v Speaker 1>me right now. It reminds me a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>how conservatives were completely you know, put on their back

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<v Speaker 1>feet and scared after the shooting, the shooting of I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>the incident with George Floyd. It wasn't a shooting where

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<v Speaker 1>where the knee was on his neck, in his back,

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<v Speaker 1>and then blm, riots happened and all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>everybody was WHOA, you know, I maybe maybe cops are

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<v Speaker 1>racist and maybe we should do some big legislative effort

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<v Speaker 1>here to address this and new training everything, and said,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on a second, this is one incident. Let's look

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<v Speaker 1>at all We didn't have all the facts, as you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we only saw half that video. The other half of

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<v Speaker 1>the video was important, important to see. But people were scared.

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<v Speaker 1>And the left is they're very adeptit this. They're very good.

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<v Speaker 1>They go after people intentionally in bad faith on the right,

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<v Speaker 1>if they just wanted to purge the crazies. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people that sit around and say, all right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Q is a bunch of wackos. I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even I don't even know what Q believes,

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<v Speaker 1>and Q is insane, So don't you know that's not

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<v Speaker 1>my problem. A lot of people sit around and say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the but no, for them to really gain political power,

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<v Speaker 1>for the left, for the Democrats to fully leverage what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on, they gotta go after some people that they

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<v Speaker 1>know are opposed to any kind of political violence, that

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<v Speaker 1>they know denounced immediately and would always going forward denounce

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<v Speaker 1>a riot in the Capitol building. They got to get

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<v Speaker 1>some of those people, because that sends a message to everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>To the vast majority of conservatives, to the ninety nine

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<v Speaker 1>point nine percent of conservatives who would never raise their

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<v Speaker 1>hand in anger against a police officer over a political issue,

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<v Speaker 1>the left sends a message to all of them, and

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<v Speaker 1>get you too. You think, just because you're ethical and

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<v Speaker 1>honorable and don't support political violence and don't support breaking

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<v Speaker 1>laws because of election discontent, that you're safe or that

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be allowed to speak. No, No, friends, authoritarians always

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<v Speaker 1>have to make an example of the compliant as well

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<v Speaker 1>as well as those who disobey. Thanks for listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Get the latest news and

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any concerns that Congress will be distracted

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<v Speaker 1>if this trial goes forward instead of focusing on the

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<v Speaker 1>cabinet and coronavirus? Yes, I do have concerns, but so

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<v Speaker 1>does Speaker Pelosi. Misforcome is a pretty good legislator, and

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<v Speaker 1>he is doing what he thinks he needs to do

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<v Speaker 1>to be disruptive of President Biden. But I will send

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<v Speaker 1>him McConnell uh nex Belos is smarter than that. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>take the vote that we should take in the House,

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<v Speaker 1>and she will make the determination as win as the

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<v Speaker 1>best time to get that vote, to get the managers

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<v Speaker 1>upon it and move that legislation over to the Senate.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just so happens that if it didn't go over

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<v Speaker 1>there for one hundred days, it could. Let's give President

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<v Speaker 1>and LEC Biden the hundred days he needs to get

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<v Speaker 1>us the gender off and run in and maybe we'll

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<v Speaker 1>send the articles sometimes after that. It's not even gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be done when Trump leaves. They're already the Democrats already

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<v Speaker 1>signaling this to you, not not going to let this go.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've I've read that the Attorney General Bill Barr

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<v Speaker 1>had advised the President not to pardon himself, and I

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<v Speaker 1>understand the legal rationale for that. And I'll say I

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<v Speaker 1>became worried about the President's about how the president was

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<v Speaker 1>doing when when he started to turn on Bill Barr,

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<v Speaker 1>which as you know, I would I would not do,

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<v Speaker 1>and I did not. I did not agree with that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I became even more worried. We returning on Mike Pence,

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<v Speaker 1>who I think is has been an amazing case study

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<v Speaker 1>and somebody who has maintained his composure and his dignity

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<v Speaker 1>and his decency through just a maelstrom. I don't mean

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<v Speaker 1>just recently, I mean for all four years, all the

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<v Speaker 1>attacks on the left and everything to put against Mike Pence.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's not forget Mike Pence. Everything he's shown us so

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<v Speaker 1>far is that he's a good man who's trying his

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<v Speaker 1>best in a very difficult job. I believe the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing is true of attorney Attorney General Barr, and I

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<v Speaker 1>said all along, maybe he didn't appoint a special counsel

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<v Speaker 1>on Hunter Biden because he had already looked at what

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<v Speaker 1>was going on there and he didn't see he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>see any federal crimes to investigate. It's possible. Friends, I

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<v Speaker 1>know this stuff does not get This doesn't get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of a lot of clicks, a lot of love

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<v Speaker 1>and conservative media. But I'm telling you the truth. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you the truth because I am your friend, i

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<v Speaker 1>am your ally. I'm here with you shield's eye, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the continuation of the persecution of Trump, you

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<v Speaker 1>can bet on that that's going to happen. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>here there you had when we started this out at

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<v Speaker 1>Congressman Clyburn saying that they want to do this after

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<v Speaker 1>the hundred days of Biden's agenda. I'm also going to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you right now be prepared for this. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a lack because of some of the personnel decisions. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a lack of focus and efficacy when Trump came

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<v Speaker 1>into office to pursue I'm talking about the very beginning

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty seventeen after the inauguration, to pursue agenda items

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<v Speaker 1>that needed to get done. You know, we did not

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<v Speaker 1>have a repeal and replace of a bomacare we did

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<v Speaker 1>not get. We got fifteen miles of new fence or

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<v Speaker 1>wall at the border, hundreds of miles of upgraded fence

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<v Speaker 1>or wall, but we needed more new wall. There were

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<v Speaker 1>things that were left undone because there was a lack

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<v Speaker 1>of focus. All we really got where tax cuts and deregulation,

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<v Speaker 1>which is great, and I praised them, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>walk back from that at all. I still think those

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<v Speaker 1>were very good moves. But understand that the Biden administration

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<v Speaker 1>is going to undo all of that now and then

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<v Speaker 1>some So what do I see happening here? They're going

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<v Speaker 1>to pursue as the Democrats do, remember with Obamacare twenty

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<v Speaker 1>starting two thousand and nine, going all the way through.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to pursue with ruthless efficiency, a transformational agenda

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<v Speaker 1>that the left approves of. It won't be as radical,

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<v Speaker 1>I think as some of this stuff we're concerned about

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<v Speaker 1>right now, not yet at least, because they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>use this moment in time to run up the scoreboard.

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<v Speaker 1>For sure, that's what's going to happen. And they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>also going to continue to go after Trump and they

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<v Speaker 1>will not be satisfied. Until he and I I believe

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<v Speaker 1>his family as well are in legal jeopardy, and also

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<v Speaker 1>that his supporters. But I mean supporters, I don't just

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<v Speaker 1>mean his voters. I mean there's seventy five million Trump voters.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna be hard to you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>go after all of them, but I mean the top

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<v Speaker 1>people in his White House. There there are there's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be ramifications for them from the left professionally once

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<v Speaker 1>they once they leave this White House. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>also very much going to be the case. So with

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<v Speaker 1>all of that, I would say that there was one

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<v Speaker 1>thing that Jim Kleibern mentioned when he was going into

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<v Speaker 1>his whole Donald Trump, how We're going to get Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump and wait one hundred days, and that is there

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be a renewed national focus on just what

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<v Speaker 1>exactly is going on here with coronavirus and what a

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<v Speaker 1>complete debacle the vaccine rollout has been so far, and

0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:07.600
<v Speaker 1>people who are trying to blame the federal government are delusional.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not. The federal government has delivered the vaccine

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<v Speaker 1>at a five to one rate of the actual distribution

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<v Speaker 1>the vaccine, and the distribution has been left up to

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<v Speaker 1>the states. That was the decision that was made. And

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<v Speaker 1>I remember this, Governor Newsom in California, Governor Cuomo in

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<v Speaker 1>New York was saying that he wouldn't even distribute the

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<v Speaker 1>vaccine until his own state health authorities had approved it.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was taking not even just the right to

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<v Speaker 1>determine who gets this and how quickly, he was going

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<v Speaker 1>a step beyond that to taking this end and saying

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<v Speaker 1>that he might delay it. That's the kind of power

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<v Speaker 1>that he said he had. So it's up to the state.

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<v Speaker 1>And some states West Virginia comes to mind, there are

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<v Speaker 1>others have been really efficient at this, Others have been

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<v Speaker 1>a disaster. It's going to be very difficult for us

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about freedom as a general political issue when

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<v Speaker 1>we do not have individual day to day freedom in

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<v Speaker 1>our lives because of their response to COVID nineteen. We

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<v Speaker 1>all need to understand that we've got to get this

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<v Speaker 1>country reopened. And a huge part of that. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>telling this all along. You know, they all you're anti science,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is what they always say with people question lockdowns. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm a big advocate for people who are

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<v Speaker 1>at risk, who who are at high risk getting the

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<v Speaker 1>COVID nineteen vaccine as soon as possible. I want family

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<v Speaker 1>members of mine who are at the age where they're

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<v Speaker 1>in a risk category. You know, everybody in my family

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<v Speaker 1>who's at a high risk, I want them getting the vaccine.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to figure out how they can get it

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as possible. But like a lot of other

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<v Speaker 1>people across the country, always is more bureaucratic bullcrap and

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<v Speaker 1>red tape and slowdowns. Why aren't we getting this into

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<v Speaker 1>the arms of people that it will save with just

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<v Speaker 1>incredible speed. That's what it should be. You know, it

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<v Speaker 1>was warp speed to get this thing approved. It is

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<v Speaker 1>not warp speed to get it distributed. And there are

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<v Speaker 1>some pretty clear reasons as to why. There are government

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<v Speaker 1>officials who think that the most important thing is the

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<v Speaker 1>equity of the distribution of this. They've taken a social

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<v Speaker 1>justice approach to the distribution of a vaccine, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>all these other considerations. Here's how this should be done.

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<v Speaker 1>Every state should set up the resources to put out

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<v Speaker 1>information about where to go if you're sixty five or

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<v Speaker 1>over to get this vaccine quickly and safely. The end,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that that should be the focus and the

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<v Speaker 1>CDC has just updated its guides. I mean, the CDC

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<v Speaker 1>has been a doominable with so much of its guidance

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<v Speaker 1>along the way. Here should schools stay open? Eh? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't really know, and then a lot of schools

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<v Speaker 1>shut down. Tell me why not? Why why a single

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<v Speaker 1>school in America should be closed at this point for

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<v Speaker 1>COVID nineteen What what sense does that make when we

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<v Speaker 1>know that it's a very minimal threat to children, It

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<v Speaker 1>is a smaller threat. This is a fact I want.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even be falsely fact checked by Facebook or

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<v Speaker 1>any of these others on this one. It is less

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<v Speaker 1>dangerous to children under the age of twelve than the

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<v Speaker 1>flu on a per capita infectious basis. That's that's just true.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a that's a fact. So why aren't Why are

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<v Speaker 1>our kindergartens and you know, grammar schools across the country

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of schools are open, but in some

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<v Speaker 1>places they're still closed or they're only doing you know,

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<v Speaker 1>partial openings, whatever it may be. Well, it's because everyone

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:55.400
<v Speaker 1>in the bureaucracy just wants to take the position of

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<v Speaker 1>maximum safety and minimum risk in what they're saying. And

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<v Speaker 1>that same approach to the vaccines. Distribution has meant that

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of people who are waiting for this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is costing lives. You know, they keep saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>if only we masked up better, and you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>have people on Capitol Hill I've seen are saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans refuse to wear a mask indoors with them and

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<v Speaker 1>so and then there are a couple of members of

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<v Speaker 1>Congress have tested positive and one of them there's photos

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<v Speaker 1>of her in Congress indoors without a mask on. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is always my point. If you wear a mask

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<v Speaker 1>ninety percent or ninety nine percent of the time and

0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:34.120
<v Speaker 1>taking photos and look at how much I mask up.

0:28:34.640 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 1>You know that one minute period where you don't have

0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:39.800
<v Speaker 1>your mask on you might get infected, and so the

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 1>rest of it doesn't. The rest of the time, but

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<v Speaker 1>the mask doesn't matter. This is people don't seem to

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<v Speaker 1>really understand we're talking about this as a policy. The

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<v Speaker 1>second you take that thing off, you have no protection now,

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<v Speaker 1>so the fact that you were wearing it, that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I get so angry about, Oh, you got to wear

0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 1>a mask in a plane, Oh you gott to wear

0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:56.880
<v Speaker 1>a mask in a restaurant. You have no protection, so

0:28:57.720 --> 0:29:00.080
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter if you get infected. And they'll say, well,

0:29:00.480 --> 0:29:04.120
<v Speaker 1>but maybe it's less likely you'd get infected. I mean,

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:08.400
<v Speaker 1>if you're being exposed to COVID, how much less likely?

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:12.720
<v Speaker 1>They can't answer that question. But the point here being

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<v Speaker 1>that we have to demand accountability from government authorities, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna be also pushing increasingly for red states to

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<v Speaker 1>be taking a more active, a more active role in

0:29:25.360 --> 0:29:30.240
<v Speaker 1>the protection of our rights, and also to show more

0:29:30.240 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 1>of our fellow Americans that places like Texas and Florida,

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:39.680
<v Speaker 1>which are governed by Republicans are outperforming in every important metric,

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:43.800
<v Speaker 1>places like New York and California. Yeah, you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>see a big focus and it's true on COVID for sure.

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 1>I think it's going to be true on everything though.

0:29:48.280 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 1>You're going to see a big focus on this in

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<v Speaker 1>the months ahead, and also a continued outflow of anyone

0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:59.000
<v Speaker 1>who doesn't want to live in a crazy blue state. Unfortunate.

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:02.240
<v Speaker 1>There'll be some Democrats also then go and vote Democrat

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:06.880
<v Speaker 1>in Texas or Florida, but that's going to be happening.

0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:11.760
<v Speaker 1>And in the vaccine changes, something the vaccine distribution change

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 1>is something that we have to be looking at and

0:30:13.320 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 1>advocating for very very closely. You're in the Freedom Hut.

0:30:19.160 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 1>This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. Get more from

0:30:22.600 --> 0:30:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Buck by following him on social media at buck Sexton

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 1>on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. We must plan our economic resurgence.

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<v Speaker 1>We simply cannot stay closed until the vaccine hits critical mass.

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:41.280
<v Speaker 1>The cost is too high. We will have nothing left

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 1>to open. We must reopen the economy, but we must

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:49.000
<v Speaker 1>do it smartly and safely. We will have nothing left

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 1>to open. Who does that sound like? Who those of

0:30:53.600 --> 0:30:55.320
<v Speaker 1>you listening to the show, you say, wait a second,

0:30:55.520 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 1>if we stay locked down through the whole winter, there'll

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:00.960
<v Speaker 1>be nothing left to open, at least for independently owned

0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 1>and small businesses. You know. Walmart will be fine, Starbucks

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:07.840
<v Speaker 1>will be fine. But for the millions and millions of

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:11.440
<v Speaker 1>people who don't own a Walmart or shares in it

0:31:11.480 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 1>for that matter, what happens to them? Oh? You mean

0:31:15.640 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 1>their livelihoods are ruined, and they're bankrupted, and their communities

0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 1>are devastated. I thought, if you brought this up, you

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:24.400
<v Speaker 1>were putting a price on human life, because that's what

0:31:24.440 --> 0:31:28.680
<v Speaker 1>Cuomo used to say about this. But now as we see,

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:34.200
<v Speaker 1>here's what's really happening. They have a very hard time

0:31:35.120 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 1>showing people who are approaching this with an open mind.

0:31:38.680 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 1>How is it that we have benefited exactly in large

0:31:43.200 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 1>in large urban centers, right, so Los Angeles and New

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:50.000
<v Speaker 1>York City? And how have we benefited from the most

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:57.320
<v Speaker 1>draconian lockdown stuff? It has been really effective. And that's

0:31:57.320 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 1>a very hard case to make. I mean, what do

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:04.800
<v Speaker 1>we really think our cases reduced twenty percent month the month,

0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 1>forty percent month? Maybe is that the claim? Because Florida

0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 1>doesn't lockdown, and Florida is not ten times the cases,

0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 1>five times the cases, double the cases. No, No, their

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:20.480
<v Speaker 1>businesses are open. There are some restrictions in place, but

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:24.520
<v Speaker 1>their businesses are open. So why are all restaurants in

0:32:24.560 --> 0:32:28.040
<v Speaker 1>New York City and Los Angeles shut down? What's the

0:32:28.160 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 1>upside of this? Oh? Okay, they're not locked down in Miami,

0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:38.840
<v Speaker 1>they're not locked down in Tampa. And this is why

0:32:38.880 --> 0:32:42.480
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to say, well, you know, maybe we should

0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:45.200
<v Speaker 1>start to think about reopening even though we're not through

0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:49.160
<v Speaker 1>the pandemic yet. Oh wow, you don't say this is

0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:54.840
<v Speaker 1>the Cuomo chorus, This is the Fauciites. Finally coming to

0:32:54.840 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 1>the conclusion that I came to a long time ago,

0:32:57.200 --> 0:33:00.280
<v Speaker 1>which is that you can't just have a zero some

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 1>approach to this whole thing, where you either go extreme

0:33:02.480 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 1>lockdown or you want everyone to die in your terrible

0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:07.320
<v Speaker 1>person which is which is the way they framed this

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<v Speaker 1>issue when Trump was making the initial decisions back in

0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 1>April and May. That's what they're in March April and May.

0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:19.240
<v Speaker 1>That's what they were saying. You either were in favor

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 1>of these severe lockdowns or you were a bad person.

0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:26.360
<v Speaker 1>There was there was no middle ground. And I trust me,

0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:28.440
<v Speaker 1>I know because people were saying horrible things to me.

0:33:28.720 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 1>As if I wasn't a New York City resident with

0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 1>my entire family here, all of us in the epicenter

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:39.120
<v Speaker 1>of the initial COVID outbreak in New York still the

0:33:39.200 --> 0:33:41.920
<v Speaker 1>highest number of deaths per capita New York and New

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<v Speaker 1>Jersey of any state in the country, as if I

0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:47.760
<v Speaker 1>wasn't as concerned as anybody else about this. But I

0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 1>also was trying to think about what the policy trade

0:33:50.040 --> 0:33:53.239
<v Speaker 1>offs would be and looking at how much do we

0:33:53.240 --> 0:33:58.080
<v Speaker 1>really gain from remember lockdown? Is they act like what

0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:02.280
<v Speaker 1>they're telling you is everyone stay home and everyone mask

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:05.000
<v Speaker 1>up one hundred percent, and that's the benefit we're going

0:34:05.040 --> 0:34:08.080
<v Speaker 1>to get from this, But that's not how it happens.

0:34:08.960 --> 0:34:11.759
<v Speaker 1>You still have essential workers, you still have people going

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:13.480
<v Speaker 1>to medical appointments, you still have people go to the

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 1>grocery store, if people going to big box stores to

0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:19.200
<v Speaker 1>go get a new TV. And so the virus continues

0:34:19.280 --> 0:34:22.719
<v Speaker 1>to spread and you lock down things like restaurants. In

0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:25.360
<v Speaker 1>New York, they thought one percent of cases were happening

0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:29.600
<v Speaker 1>in restaurants. One percent, So you're going to destroy the

0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:33.640
<v Speaker 1>entire restaurant industries to not even eradicate, but to slow

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:38.479
<v Speaker 1>one percent of cases. When you start to think this through,

0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:45.240
<v Speaker 1>it just doesn't make sense. It always made sense to say,

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:48.840
<v Speaker 1>if we have too many cases at once, we cannot

0:34:48.840 --> 0:34:51.960
<v Speaker 1>treat people in the hospitals. They're more people will die

0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:54.000
<v Speaker 1>as a result of that, so we have to slow

0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:58.479
<v Speaker 1>them for hospital capacity. That was a fair point to make.

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 1>That was an honest point to and that's why so

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:04.279
<v Speaker 1>many people went along with it. We have to this

0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:08.319
<v Speaker 1>day not had a major hospital system in a US

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 1>city unable to give treatment to anyone with COVID. But

0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:15.439
<v Speaker 1>that's still the framework that we're all using. It's either

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:19.080
<v Speaker 1>agree with me, or people die in the emergency room

0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:21.279
<v Speaker 1>without any without anyone able to even look at them,

0:35:21.680 --> 0:35:24.880
<v Speaker 1>without anyone with the able to provide the medical attention.

0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:29.399
<v Speaker 1>That's not the reality of what we're seeing to this day.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why there's finally, it seems the beginnings of

0:35:33.760 --> 0:35:37.480
<v Speaker 1>an opening to have a real conversation about this, the

0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 1>beginnings of an opening that I hope we will continue

0:35:41.200 --> 0:35:45.799
<v Speaker 1>to push on. Even Governor Cuomo sang it. You're in

0:35:45.840 --> 0:35:49.200
<v Speaker 1>the Freedom Hut. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast

0:35:49.680 --> 0:35:53.040
<v Speaker 1>from More Bucked. Head to Bucksexton dot com and remember

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:58.760
<v Speaker 1>to subscribe to the podcast. Harsany time, everybody. Our friend

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:02.239
<v Speaker 1>back from a your stint of book writing. So we

0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 1>haven't had him on in the new year yet. Our

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:07.360
<v Speaker 1>friend David Harsani back in the mix here. He is

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 1>a senior writer at National Review, and he's going to

0:36:10.719 --> 0:36:12.480
<v Speaker 1>have a great book to talk about at some point soon,

0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:15.399
<v Speaker 1>but for right now it's still getting written. David. Great

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:19.520
<v Speaker 1>to have you, always a pleasure to be here. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, man, we haven't had you weigh in on

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:27.120
<v Speaker 1>just the state of things right now. What is what

0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:29.160
<v Speaker 1>is top of mind for you in the political scene

0:36:29.160 --> 0:36:35.920
<v Speaker 1>as we as we talked today, Um well, I am

0:36:36.080 --> 0:36:41.000
<v Speaker 1>very concerned about its generally a free speech issues. So

0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:45.320
<v Speaker 1>for me, I am, you know, concerned about how Twitter

0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:49.120
<v Speaker 1>and Google and Amazon are acting just in general. So

0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 1>that's a big topic for me. Obviously, I am concerned

0:36:53.719 --> 0:36:55.879
<v Speaker 1>for the country in general when you look at the

0:36:55.960 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 1>anger and the violence that was generated last week over

0:37:01.160 --> 0:37:03.800
<v Speaker 1>the election, which I you know, which I think was

0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:07.919
<v Speaker 1>pretty horrible and perpetuated by a mythology that the entire

0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:11.680
<v Speaker 1>election was stolen. And so I guess those are the

0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 1>two big things. And then you know, we haven't even

0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 1>really been able to really sort of get our minds

0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:19.400
<v Speaker 1>around at least I haven't you know, what a Biden

0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:22.080
<v Speaker 1>administration means for us on a number of issues. But

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 1>I think obviously we'll have enough time for that. Let's

0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:26.279
<v Speaker 1>let's take some of these one by one. Let's let's

0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:28.120
<v Speaker 1>start with the free speech issue. I've been talking a

0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:30.759
<v Speaker 1>lot on the show about what it means for big

0:37:30.760 --> 0:37:34.240
<v Speaker 1>tech censorship, and I do think that that, particularly among

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:39.200
<v Speaker 1>conservatives on on the right, there there is a you know,

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 1>people say, oh, does it really matter know Twitter does

0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:44.880
<v Speaker 1>this or Facebook does that? Doesn't really matter now, and

0:37:44.920 --> 0:37:46.800
<v Speaker 1>that that had been the attitude. You know, people that

0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:48.879
<v Speaker 1>work in Media Week care a lot about it because

0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:52.000
<v Speaker 1>it affects our ability to speak to our readers and listeners.

0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:55.560
<v Speaker 1>But I think the general public is getting an understanding now. No,

0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:59.360
<v Speaker 1>this is this is the entire Internet architecture that is

0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 1>being used to silence. This is if your business is

0:38:04.000 --> 0:38:07.560
<v Speaker 1>selling products of any kind that you know, who knows

0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:09.520
<v Speaker 1>you mean, you might be selling Maga hats, and all

0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:13.200
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden Amazon decides you're shut down, and not

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:16.040
<v Speaker 1>just we won't sell your stuff, we'll take your website

0:38:16.080 --> 0:38:19.040
<v Speaker 1>off the internet, right or credit card companies say we're

0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:21.160
<v Speaker 1>not going to sell you know, and you can't use

0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:24.400
<v Speaker 1>us to buy you know, guns or whatever it is.

0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:28.200
<v Speaker 1>So it's very problematic. I struggle with it because I'm

0:38:28.200 --> 0:38:30.600
<v Speaker 1>a big believer in the free market and a big

0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:33.480
<v Speaker 1>believer in people being able to make choices in that

0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:36.279
<v Speaker 1>market on their own. I do find it funny that

0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:39.520
<v Speaker 1>the same people who are pro individual mandate and Obamacare

0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:41.600
<v Speaker 1>and want to force you to buy health insurance, who

0:38:41.600 --> 0:38:44.400
<v Speaker 1>want to sue nuns to buy condoms, who want to

0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:49.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, involve themselves and essentially everything that's done by

0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:54.040
<v Speaker 1>the by the free market. Sorry, that's my dog barking.

0:38:54.120 --> 0:38:56.160
<v Speaker 1>That's okay, it's the world we're in now. We gotta

0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:57.719
<v Speaker 1>do hits from home. You get a dog, I love

0:38:57.840 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, I love dogs, So I got no problem

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:02.759
<v Speaker 1>go ahead. So in any event, so I find it

0:39:02.760 --> 0:39:05.960
<v Speaker 1>funny that they pretend to care about, you know, these choices,

0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:08.160
<v Speaker 1>which I think they're just happy to be able to

0:39:08.160 --> 0:39:10.560
<v Speaker 1>shut people up who they disagree with. So in my

0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:13.440
<v Speaker 1>contention on this, in my argument is, listen, there's a

0:39:13.560 --> 0:39:17.120
<v Speaker 1>value behind the First Amendment and free expression. It's not

0:39:17.200 --> 0:39:19.279
<v Speaker 1>just about the right. If even if the right wasn't

0:39:19.320 --> 0:39:22.040
<v Speaker 1>codified of it, it wasn't written down, we would still

0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:24.920
<v Speaker 1>believe in the ideals of it. So when you're just

0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:27.399
<v Speaker 1>so happy to shut down millions of people because they're

0:39:27.440 --> 0:39:30.319
<v Speaker 1>saying something that you don't like and I don't even

0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:32.239
<v Speaker 1>like most of the time, I think that that's an

0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:36.160
<v Speaker 1>illiberal attitude. And when that becomes normalized as it is now,

0:39:36.200 --> 0:39:38.960
<v Speaker 1>this is even beyond like sort of the practical parts

0:39:38.960 --> 0:39:41.200
<v Speaker 1>of it. When you chip away at that and people

0:39:41.239 --> 0:39:43.680
<v Speaker 1>feel like it's fine to shut down millions of voices

0:39:43.719 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 1>that they don't agree with, I think that boats very

0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:48.400
<v Speaker 1>poorly for the First Amendment moving forward as well. And

0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I'll just use this as an example the term and

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:54.200
<v Speaker 1>because I've been speaking at this really for all of

0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Trump's presidency, the term white supremacy. I mean, I remember

0:39:58.880 --> 0:40:02.200
<v Speaker 1>there was that Norton movie American History Acts, which I

0:40:02.239 --> 0:40:04.680
<v Speaker 1>never actually really I saw pieces of it here and

0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:06.840
<v Speaker 1>there on HBO and such, but you know they're there,

0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:10.200
<v Speaker 1>are movies, or you know, when people talked about white

0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:14.719
<v Speaker 1>supremacists in the nineties the other two thousands, immediately, you know,

0:40:14.760 --> 0:40:17.919
<v Speaker 1>you had this image of a very bad person who

0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:22.200
<v Speaker 1>was of course a racist but also an anti Semite.

0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:27.359
<v Speaker 1>And you know, neo Nazi, white supremacist, shaved head, swastika

0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:30.440
<v Speaker 1>tattoo guys. You know, this was what you would see

0:40:30.800 --> 0:40:33.720
<v Speaker 1>in your mind with white supremacy, and everyone in agree

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:37.880
<v Speaker 1>these are bad guys. The term white supremacy now is

0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:41.000
<v Speaker 1>used routinely by the left for you know, I mean,

0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:46.319
<v Speaker 1>if you oppose if you support the Asian American guy

0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:49.279
<v Speaker 1>who sued Harvard for discriminating it, people say, well, this

0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 1>is this is perpetuating white supremacy. It's like the term

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:54.640
<v Speaker 1>white So I bring this up just because I feel

0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:59.160
<v Speaker 1>like everyone needs to understand, well, even if they are

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:04.000
<v Speaker 1>saying their own gonna go after bad people for saying

0:41:04.080 --> 0:41:06.880
<v Speaker 1>for wrong think online or for for evil thing that

0:41:07.000 --> 0:41:09.799
<v Speaker 1>is apps, they're gonna they're gonna expand this so that

0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:13.040
<v Speaker 1>they'll go after people who just oppose an idea and

0:41:13.200 --> 0:41:16.520
<v Speaker 1>is and it's a completely legitimate opposition. Yeah. I mean

0:41:16.520 --> 0:41:20.239
<v Speaker 1>you make a very good point. People who want to

0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:23.000
<v Speaker 1>shut down a bad voice, and we say if we

0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:24.560
<v Speaker 1>give in and say, hey, yeah, you know, if we

0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 1>if we treat free speech is not a neutral value

0:41:27.680 --> 0:41:30.880
<v Speaker 1>but just simply something that protects a good speech that

0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 1>never ends. As you mentioned, everyone's a white supremacist, right,

0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:35.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean, anyone who's you know, behind a tax cut

0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:38.680
<v Speaker 1>is a white supremacist because it's unfair or whatever it is.

0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:41.320
<v Speaker 1>It's funny that you mentioned American history acts. I'm probably

0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:44.319
<v Speaker 1>getting this somewhat wrong, but this that movie is a

0:41:44.360 --> 0:41:46.759
<v Speaker 1>perfect example of how they do this. There's a scene

0:41:46.760 --> 0:41:49.200
<v Speaker 1>where he's at the table being all Nazi like, right,

0:41:49.239 --> 0:41:51.040
<v Speaker 1>He's saying, you know, I hate black people, I hate

0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 1>choose and then all of a sudden he's like an

0:41:52.640 --> 0:41:56.080
<v Speaker 1>affirmative action is terrible, you know, Like, so they fold

0:41:56.160 --> 0:41:59.239
<v Speaker 1>in things that are reasonable to disagree with into the

0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:03.279
<v Speaker 1>larger you know, context of hatred and stuff like that.

0:42:03.320 --> 0:42:05.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, oh, you want to close the border. Um,

0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:08.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, the Naziki wants to close the border. So

0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:10.800
<v Speaker 1>they're essentially saying anyone who wants to close the border

0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:14.080
<v Speaker 1>is also a Nazi. Where they you know, they intimate that.

0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:16.160
<v Speaker 1>So that's why you know, I told you I hadn't

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:17.719
<v Speaker 1>I hadn't seen the movie. I just I don't want

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:19.160
<v Speaker 1>to cut you off on what do you continue your point?

0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:21.640
<v Speaker 1>But I just say I mean so, so it's even

0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:24.600
<v Speaker 1>even it's even apparent that tendency to take what is

0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:31.759
<v Speaker 1>objectively and objectively clearly wrong, immoral evil, but then use

0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:36.840
<v Speaker 1>that sort of universal moral revulsion to then start going

0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:39.600
<v Speaker 1>after things that clearly aren't that right, like like if

0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:42.920
<v Speaker 1>you oppose tax guys, but go ahead. Yeah, it's like

0:42:43.000 --> 0:42:46.640
<v Speaker 1>saying I really you know, making a creating a fictional

0:42:46.760 --> 0:42:50.120
<v Speaker 1>characters and Nazi and then saying I'm really for you know, uh,

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:54.319
<v Speaker 1>medicare for all, because you know, you know, Germans had

0:42:54.480 --> 0:42:56.920
<v Speaker 1>that kind of system long, you know, long before anyone

0:42:56.960 --> 0:42:59.760
<v Speaker 1>and and and Richard Spencer or is it Richard Spencer

0:42:59.880 --> 0:43:03.040
<v Speaker 1>or I forgot whatever the naziga's name is, um you

0:43:03.040 --> 0:43:04.640
<v Speaker 1>know is for it as well, so then you must

0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:07.000
<v Speaker 1>be for it. So, I mean, it's just an expansive

0:43:07.080 --> 0:43:09.560
<v Speaker 1>view of these things and it never ends. And that's

0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:11.239
<v Speaker 1>why you have to worry about speech. Like, let me

0:43:11.400 --> 0:43:13.640
<v Speaker 1>just say saying the people who were getting banned or

0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:17.040
<v Speaker 1>saying that the election was stolen, right, I disagree with them,

0:43:17.320 --> 0:43:19.920
<v Speaker 1>But that's a complete that's just a viewpoint. It's not

0:43:19.960 --> 0:43:23.000
<v Speaker 1>an inciting you know, you're not inciting violence by having

0:43:23.000 --> 0:43:25.760
<v Speaker 1>that viewpoint, just because some people acted by Nancy Pelosi

0:43:25.840 --> 0:43:28.960
<v Speaker 1>still has Nancy Pelosi still has a tweet up David

0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:33.759
<v Speaker 1>from twenty seventeen saying our election was hijacked. That's the

0:43:33.840 --> 0:43:36.839
<v Speaker 1>same thing as saying stolen, and it's still up there.

0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:40.680
<v Speaker 1>There are there were people on CNN who essentially and

0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:43.520
<v Speaker 1>on MSNBC who are no better than Lynnwood or anyone

0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:46.680
<v Speaker 1>else who had conspiracy theories that were just as bad. Now,

0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:50.040
<v Speaker 1>do I want elected officials to act better than the

0:43:50.160 --> 0:43:52.520
<v Speaker 1>than the talk show person. Yeah, I do, but that

0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:55.000
<v Speaker 1>but still as far as speech goes, they were saying

0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:56.880
<v Speaker 1>the same thing. I would ask any of these people,

0:43:56.920 --> 0:43:59.800
<v Speaker 1>do you believe that the twenty sixteen election was or

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:02.160
<v Speaker 1>is not stolen, or if the Russians were involved, and

0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:04.480
<v Speaker 1>this they'll still tell you the Russians were, So I

0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:06.080
<v Speaker 1>don't understand why they get to I mean, I do

0:44:06.160 --> 0:44:08.560
<v Speaker 1>understand why they get to speak, but obviously the standards

0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:11.359
<v Speaker 1>not the same. It's being a David Harsani, senior writer

0:44:11.480 --> 0:44:14.560
<v Speaker 1>at National Review, and you can read his latest at

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:21.720
<v Speaker 1>nastionalview dot com. David, where do you think conservatism goes now?

0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:27.760
<v Speaker 1>It feels very we were uncertain. A lot of people

0:44:28.040 --> 0:44:31.799
<v Speaker 1>are really worried, and there doesn't seem to be any

0:44:31.880 --> 0:44:35.840
<v Speaker 1>anything offering much in the way of answers about you

0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:39.040
<v Speaker 1>know what the movement is, What do you think happens?

0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:42.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the movement is. I mean, obviously

0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:44.640
<v Speaker 1>I have serious disagreements with many people on the right

0:44:44.719 --> 0:44:49.719
<v Speaker 1>over you know, trade policy or policy with big tech,

0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:52.720
<v Speaker 1>and obviously there's going to be some big disagreements. But frankly,

0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:55.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, people who think the Republican Party's finished or

0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:58.960
<v Speaker 1>this or that, I think they misjudge the situation. I

0:44:58.960 --> 0:45:00.799
<v Speaker 1>think what's going to happen is you will have the

0:45:00.840 --> 0:45:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Biden administration doing all kinds of things that conservatives hate

0:45:04.040 --> 0:45:07.000
<v Speaker 1>as a collective, and then that will unite them, as

0:45:07.000 --> 0:45:09.840
<v Speaker 1>it did unite the you know, the left when Trump

0:45:09.840 --> 0:45:12.719
<v Speaker 1>became president. So that's typically what happens because you have

0:45:12.760 --> 0:45:16.040
<v Speaker 1>big consensuses on the right and left. Not a multi

0:45:16.040 --> 0:45:19.799
<v Speaker 1>party state, you know, meaning more than two that are

0:45:19.840 --> 0:45:22.000
<v Speaker 1>always fighting. So I don't know that it's going to

0:45:22.080 --> 0:45:24.840
<v Speaker 1>be all you know, Rosie and there'll be a friendship

0:45:24.880 --> 0:45:27.520
<v Speaker 1>among all those folks. Um. I mean, I'm not a

0:45:27.520 --> 0:45:30.759
<v Speaker 1>big fan of like Howeley or where others you know,

0:45:30.840 --> 0:45:33.600
<v Speaker 1>who are more a populist, But I think that in

0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:35.680
<v Speaker 1>the end, you have if you have a common and

0:45:35.880 --> 0:45:38.320
<v Speaker 1>I use the word not you know, a common enemy,

0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:42.000
<v Speaker 1>but I don't mean it in the in the warlike sense.

0:45:42.040 --> 0:45:44.960
<v Speaker 1>But if you have a common political opponent, you you

0:45:45.120 --> 0:45:49.240
<v Speaker 1>sort of rally around the try to stop them. And

0:45:49.520 --> 0:45:53.399
<v Speaker 1>on the big tech issue, that's one area where people

0:45:53.440 --> 0:45:57.319
<v Speaker 1>keep saying, Okay, well what do we do? And I

0:45:57.360 --> 0:46:00.640
<v Speaker 1>don't have a great answer other than everyone's got to

0:46:00.719 --> 0:46:04.680
<v Speaker 1>understand what this really means. And you know, the answer

0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:06.520
<v Speaker 1>that I had been thinking of was, well, we'll build

0:46:06.560 --> 0:46:09.080
<v Speaker 1>our own stuff. But you got to go a whole

0:46:09.080 --> 0:46:11.360
<v Speaker 1>lot deeper. Now we've seen to build your own stuff

0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:16.839
<v Speaker 1>and actually have it withstand a left wing purge. Yeah,

0:46:16.920 --> 0:46:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I used to say, you know, I get mocked for

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:22.279
<v Speaker 1>saying build your own, you know, build your own institutions,

0:46:22.280 --> 0:46:26.440
<v Speaker 1>build your own platform. I still think you can. I mean,

0:46:26.520 --> 0:46:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Parlour probably would have been somewhat successful on its own,

0:46:29.960 --> 0:46:32.160
<v Speaker 1>even though I think I don't like the echo chamber

0:46:32.200 --> 0:46:34.040
<v Speaker 1>aspect of it. But whatever, you know, it is what

0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:38.160
<v Speaker 1>it is. But now you have, you know, sites purging

0:46:38.200 --> 0:46:40.360
<v Speaker 1>the ability of people to even have a site. And

0:46:40.360 --> 0:46:41.959
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you remember a few months ago

0:46:42.600 --> 0:46:45.439
<v Speaker 1>Google Ads threatened to shut down The Federalist because people

0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:48.400
<v Speaker 1>are saying things in their comment section. You essentially are

0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:52.160
<v Speaker 1>given this power to arbitrarily have rules and then pick

0:46:52.200 --> 0:46:54.000
<v Speaker 1>and choose who you want to shut down. I mean,

0:46:54.200 --> 0:46:56.359
<v Speaker 1>I've worked at a number of websites in my life,

0:46:56.360 --> 0:47:01.239
<v Speaker 1>and policing a comment section is possible. Right, There's always

0:47:01.280 --> 0:47:03.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna be someone saying something, so you could just pick

0:47:03.680 --> 0:47:06.040
<v Speaker 1>any of them and decide you want to shut them down,

0:47:06.080 --> 0:47:08.200
<v Speaker 1>and for any reason. I don't know how to deal

0:47:08.280 --> 0:47:10.920
<v Speaker 1>with that. I think giving government more power and trying

0:47:10.960 --> 0:47:14.680
<v Speaker 1>to you know, empower government to decide what speech should

0:47:14.680 --> 0:47:17.000
<v Speaker 1>look like or fair speech should look like. I think

0:47:17.000 --> 0:47:19.000
<v Speaker 1>that's a dangerous turn as well. You see, the people

0:47:19.080 --> 0:47:21.040
<v Speaker 1>are in government. I wouldn't I don't trust them with

0:47:21.200 --> 0:47:23.879
<v Speaker 1>much certainly wouldn't want to trust them with deciding who

0:47:23.880 --> 0:47:26.279
<v Speaker 1>gets free speech and who doesn't or more speech. So

0:47:26.840 --> 0:47:30.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you. I don't have a solution for it.

0:47:29.760 --> 0:47:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Also explains to be section section two thirty of the

0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:38.080
<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety six Communications Decency Act, whatever it is. Section

0:47:38.160 --> 0:47:42.120
<v Speaker 1>two thirty gives people who run these kinds of you know,

0:47:42.200 --> 0:47:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Facebook and you know all these big internet companies that

0:47:45.400 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 1>have a platform effect where you can write comments. As

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:50.799
<v Speaker 1>you said, it means that they're not liable for that.

0:47:51.360 --> 0:47:56.040
<v Speaker 1>But Parlor, according to Amazon, is being taken has been

0:47:56.120 --> 0:48:00.319
<v Speaker 1>taken off their servers because of what third part we're

0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:03.680
<v Speaker 1>writing on parlor, you know. So it's that does seem

0:48:03.800 --> 0:48:06.080
<v Speaker 1>highly arbitrary, doesn't it. I mean, if you if the

0:48:06.120 --> 0:48:08.480
<v Speaker 1>whole point is that they're supposed to be this legal protection,

0:48:08.760 --> 0:48:11.239
<v Speaker 1>but then Amazon says, oh, well, even though you got

0:48:11.239 --> 0:48:13.840
<v Speaker 1>this legal protection, you're not doing a good enough job

0:48:13.880 --> 0:48:17.400
<v Speaker 1>of moderating comments that you're not legally You see what

0:48:17.440 --> 0:48:21.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, they're acting like a like a shadow

0:48:21.239 --> 0:48:23.960
<v Speaker 1>government on most of the Internet, right, and they have

0:48:24.200 --> 0:48:26.680
<v Speaker 1>these rules, like I think it was Twitter, but I'm

0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:28.640
<v Speaker 1>not exactly sure. I might be wrong that said that.

0:48:28.680 --> 0:48:31.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, we're shutting this down for safety reasons. Now, obviously,

0:48:32.719 --> 0:48:35.239
<v Speaker 1>guarding people from speech as a matter of safety is

0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:38.760
<v Speaker 1>the oldest excuse for censorship. It's as oldest censorship itself.

0:48:39.000 --> 0:48:41.759
<v Speaker 1>But the idea that they have some kind of we've

0:48:41.800 --> 0:48:44.080
<v Speaker 1>created this, We've normalized the idea that they have some

0:48:44.080 --> 0:48:47.959
<v Speaker 1>sort of responsibility to keep us safe from words, right,

0:48:48.280 --> 0:48:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's a dangerous that's a dangerous road to

0:48:51.040 --> 0:48:53.480
<v Speaker 1>go down, I think. And you know, people get mad

0:48:53.480 --> 0:48:55.920
<v Speaker 1>at me, they say, like, at least on Twitter, you know,

0:48:55.960 --> 0:48:58.840
<v Speaker 1>you care more about the speech issue than the Capital riot,

0:48:58.920 --> 0:49:02.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, the insurrection, the armed insurrection and coup in etc. Yeah,

0:49:02.480 --> 0:49:03.960
<v Speaker 1>And in some sense, I do, I think that that

0:49:04.040 --> 0:49:06.840
<v Speaker 1>was a terrible and embarrassing moment in American history. But

0:49:06.840 --> 0:49:08.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it has any long term effect on

0:49:08.920 --> 0:49:12.200
<v Speaker 1>how we live our life, unless, of course Biden passes

0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:14.480
<v Speaker 1>some kind of domestic terrorism Act or some kind of

0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:17.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, intrusive thing like that. But the speech issue

0:49:17.920 --> 0:49:20.560
<v Speaker 1>that is with us now. We've created new norms that

0:49:20.600 --> 0:49:23.440
<v Speaker 1>are with us now moving forward. It's you know, the

0:49:23.560 --> 0:49:26.600
<v Speaker 1>day after Trump gave them an excuse, they've literally shut

0:49:26.680 --> 0:49:32.360
<v Speaker 1>down half of conservative you know, interactions on social media

0:49:32.520 --> 0:49:34.720
<v Speaker 1>just like that. I mean, I've lost a lot of followers.

0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:37.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that's about, but it's clearly some

0:49:37.880 --> 0:49:41.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of coordinated and conservative effort. And also I think

0:49:41.480 --> 0:49:45.279
<v Speaker 1>that the the way that the dragnet that they're going

0:49:45.320 --> 0:49:47.799
<v Speaker 1>to be using here so to speak, is going to

0:49:47.840 --> 0:49:51.520
<v Speaker 1>take it. There's so many people who you know, I

0:49:51.560 --> 0:49:53.839
<v Speaker 1>remember even for a while it was like people were

0:49:53.840 --> 0:49:56.200
<v Speaker 1>worried if they were looking at you know, al Qaeda's

0:49:56.239 --> 0:50:00.640
<v Speaker 1>statements to be terrorism researchers, and they turn out, yeah,

0:50:00.680 --> 0:50:03.839
<v Speaker 1>some of them were getting all of a sudden, they

0:50:03.840 --> 0:50:05.839
<v Speaker 1>were popping up on some radars for people that are

0:50:05.960 --> 0:50:09.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, understanding the you know, the Arabic videos that

0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:11.960
<v Speaker 1>would be released by inspiring some of these groups that

0:50:12.239 --> 0:50:15.440
<v Speaker 1>were meant to bring people to geatism. I mean, so

0:50:15.480 --> 0:50:18.720
<v Speaker 1>at this point, if you use hashtag stop the Steal

0:50:19.120 --> 0:50:22.279
<v Speaker 1>and you're mocking it. Let's say, even are people to

0:50:22.280 --> 0:50:24.600
<v Speaker 1>believe that your Twitter account or whatever it's going to

0:50:24.640 --> 0:50:26.319
<v Speaker 1>be safe from I don't think so. I mean, I

0:50:26.360 --> 0:50:28.399
<v Speaker 1>think that they're just they're just nailing people all over

0:50:28.440 --> 0:50:31.319
<v Speaker 1>the place and they don't care. Yeah, I mean, I

0:50:31.320 --> 0:50:33.600
<v Speaker 1>don't understand why someone can have the opinion that the

0:50:33.600 --> 0:50:37.160
<v Speaker 1>election was stolen. It's not, it's not it's not even

0:50:37.200 --> 0:50:39.400
<v Speaker 1>hate speech or anything. They think the election was stolen,

0:50:39.400 --> 0:50:42.520
<v Speaker 1>just as most sixty seven percent of Democrats believed about

0:50:42.520 --> 0:50:46.440
<v Speaker 1>to twenty sixteen. So, like, I don't even understand. I

0:50:46.520 --> 0:50:48.560
<v Speaker 1>do understand. I mean, it's just the pretext to try

0:50:48.600 --> 0:50:52.120
<v Speaker 1>to shut people up and anyone, any journalists, especially, which

0:50:52.160 --> 0:50:54.359
<v Speaker 1>is what they do now most of the time, who

0:50:54.400 --> 0:50:56.759
<v Speaker 1>works to shut down the voices of people who is

0:50:56.800 --> 0:50:59.520
<v Speaker 1>excited about shutting down people who they don't like are

0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:02.279
<v Speaker 1>a liberal old people. They are not believers in the

0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:05.959
<v Speaker 1>First Amendment. And just because they through a technicality, can say,

0:51:06.840 --> 0:51:08.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, you don't have the right to say whatever

0:51:08.560 --> 0:51:11.239
<v Speaker 1>you want. You can't scream fire in a theater and

0:51:11.360 --> 0:51:16.120
<v Speaker 1>that kind of nonsense in a crowded theater, they are illiberal.

0:51:16.160 --> 0:51:18.799
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter that if it's legal or not. In

0:51:18.840 --> 0:51:20.400
<v Speaker 1>my opinion, I don't know if that makes sense. I

0:51:20.440 --> 0:51:22.480
<v Speaker 1>just know, man absolutely matter. There's a culture of the

0:51:22.520 --> 0:51:25.480
<v Speaker 1>first rama too. It's not just about the constitutional protection

0:51:26.239 --> 0:51:28.560
<v Speaker 1>from government interference and the law. So I completely agree

0:51:28.600 --> 0:51:30.279
<v Speaker 1>with you, But I've been saying this and a lot

0:51:30.320 --> 0:51:32.239
<v Speaker 1>of journalists got you know, journalists got mad at me.

0:51:32.480 --> 0:51:36.200
<v Speaker 1>The biggest, the biggest advocates these days publicly of suppression

0:51:36.239 --> 0:51:38.760
<v Speaker 1>or free speech are people who make a living based

0:51:38.800 --> 0:51:40.759
<v Speaker 1>on the principle of free speech, which is journalists. And

0:51:40.840 --> 0:51:42.400
<v Speaker 1>I think that should be noted. I mean, there are

0:51:42.400 --> 0:51:44.959
<v Speaker 1>a lot of the biggest censors are people who work

0:51:45.040 --> 0:51:47.799
<v Speaker 1>at CNN and work at the New York Times. But

0:51:47.800 --> 0:51:49.920
<v Speaker 1>we gotta leave it there for today. David Harsani, everybody

0:51:49.960 --> 0:51:52.359
<v Speaker 1>check out as latest at nationalview dot com. David, thanks

0:51:52.360 --> 0:51:55.480
<v Speaker 1>so much anytime. Thanks for having me