1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is He's Talking 3 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: Cowboys training live from the Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at 4 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco, Sat. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, 5 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones, and welcome into Talking Cowboys 6 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: inside the BBC Mortgage Studio. Cowboys win thirty seven to 7 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: eighteen on the road, and I feel like we just 8 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: got home, bick because well it just gets silently, just 9 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: got home because our mics aren't on. Uh, we're not 10 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: hearing ourselves through our head sales. Just keep fighting. But 11 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: we'll just keep fighting through it, right, just hopefully we're on. 12 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: We're on though on the air. There we go, There 13 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: we go. That's why you just gotta keep fighting through us. 14 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: Just fight through adversity. As Jason Garrett always says, well, 15 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: there was a lot of adversity last night. To fight 16 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: through two started early. Yeah, speaking of that, we got 17 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: a little bit of a line change today on the show, 18 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,959 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips and for Bill Jones. Mickey Spagnola is always 19 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: to my right and a special guest today the Great 20 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: Barry Church, joining us on the show with Brian out today. 21 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, man, We appreciate I know it's 22 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: a late night for you too, probably doing pregame post game. 23 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: You got Covered four this morning. You got Players Lounge 24 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: this week as well. But he didn't have to fly home. 25 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: I was asleep about six hours before you guys did. 26 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: That was a late night for the guys, but I'm 27 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: sure it's a little bit easier always when you get 28 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: a win like they did. And we'll break it down 29 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: over the next forty five minutes eight eight eight eight, 30 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: five five two two nine sevens number if you want 31 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: to give us a call. What times your head hit 32 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: the pillow? Uh? Six six, yeah, And then woke up 33 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: in time for Jerry did his Tuesday hit on the fan. Man, 34 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 1: you gotta be there for it. You know, the beat 35 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,919 Speaker 1: doesn't stop. And with Jerry there's always a story, right. 36 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. So he remained in New York and he 37 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: was telling the guys that he was staying at the 38 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: Saint Regis Hotel, which is an old, you know, elegant 39 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: hotel in New York, and he said, there's a lot 40 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: of times when I have to do a call in 41 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: the morning, they let me into what's called the Old 42 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: King Cole Bar, and if you call it up on 43 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: the internet, it is the most elegant, fancy looking place 44 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: you ever seen. Cole Yeah, well maybe, And anyway, he's 45 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: in there doing the show, uh in the morning, and 46 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: they asked him so little brody Mary. He goes, no, 47 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna stick with the cafe. He was up, 48 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: you know, he couldn't go to sleep after that game. 49 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: He said he was in the mood for more than 50 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: just coffee. But it was a late night. Yeah, and yeah, 51 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: now that's exactly what this team needed coming off to 52 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: buy they get to five and three, they're back or 53 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: they remain on top in the division over Philly, who's 54 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: now five and four. And just guys, give me your 55 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: initial thoughts. I mean, this game had everything. Yeah, some 56 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: some weirdness, some bizarreness. We had a cat on the 57 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: field which is just sweeping the nation right now, but 58 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: overall Cowboys. You know, once again a slow start, but 59 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: they found a way. Barry. Oh, it was definitely a 60 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: slow start. I think it was that the first play 61 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: of the game, he through the interst the game through 62 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: the interception. But I loved how the defense rallied. I 63 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: mean they get to start within the ten yard line. 64 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, oh, it's gonna be an easy seven for 65 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: New York. Is gonna be one of those games, one 66 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: of those division games. One it'll slug fest. But the 67 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: defense stepped up and I think they hit him the 68 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: one for five for the whole day in the red zone. 69 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: So the defense did a heck of a job there. 70 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: We saw a lot of from SHAWNA Lee out there. 71 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: I mean he looked very impressive to me, at least 72 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: Philadelphi Vanderesh. So, I mean a defense, the beastole the show. 73 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: But I love how Dak fought back from that interception, 74 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: rallied the troops. I mean, it was a great display 75 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: of a leadership by him. Yeah, they certainly had a 76 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 1: lot of adversity to overcome. Uh And as Barry said, 77 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: the defense allowed the Cowboys to be able to do 78 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: that the way they played, and you were right, they 79 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: were one in five from the red zone. The Giants 80 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,559 Speaker 1: ended up kicking field goals from the three, the seven, 81 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: the eight, and the eleven. That's incredible, right that, you know, 82 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 1: they they drove down there, but UH couldn't get you know, 83 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: more than the one touchdown. So credit the defense and 84 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: then credit the offense from keeping their composure, you know. 85 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: And and you know it's gonna be what's in my 86 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: column when I finally finished it after Okay, So this 87 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: is this is this is an indication of how good 88 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: this team can be. When you play that poor really 89 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: for almost a half and then you can win thirty 90 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: seven to eighteen. That's rather remarkable that you can turn 91 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: it around like that. And if they you know, we 92 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: thought they finally had figured it out against the Eagles, 93 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: kind of put it together a complete game, and then 94 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: they get off to this false start, you know. And 95 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: Barry mentioned the interception on the first play of the game. Well, 96 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: actually the first play of the game was the kickoff 97 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: that bounced at the ten yard line and Tony Pollard 98 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: catches it as he's stepping out of bounds, and then 99 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: they're starting way back there. So it was one thing 100 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: after another after another, and we see that, right especially, 101 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: and that's why they've lost. Yeah, I mean, that's why 102 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: they lost basically three of those games. I mean, Barry 103 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: hit on it. It's kind of that here we go 104 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: again feeling, and I think I said to you in 105 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: the press box at halftime. This is like the Jets 106 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: game over again in terms of just balls dropping through guys, fingers, turnover, sacks, ending, drives. 107 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: Everything that they could do to prevent themselves from getting 108 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: off to a good start they did, and offensively and penalties. Uh, 109 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 1: Randall Cobbs got to lead the league in touchdowns called 110 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: back by another one having that's unbelievable. You know you 111 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: have that, you have drops on a wide open screen 112 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: pass by Pollard. Uh that. You know. We mentioned the 113 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: hold call and Tyrn and I still didn't see it 114 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: again to see if it was real. A whole Sometimes 115 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: he dominates somebody so badly that it looks like a 116 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: hole mercy call. Yeah, And it was just one after 117 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: another after another, and then all of a sudden it's 118 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: halftime and you look up and they're leading thirteen to twelve. 119 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: It's like, how did that happen? So yeah, um, you know, 120 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: credit for coming back. But as Jerry was saying on 121 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: a show this morning, you know, we can't keep doing 122 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: that when we end up playing better teams. We're capable 123 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: of playing those teams, but we can't start like that 124 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: and think you're going to recover all the time. Yeah, 125 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: that's true. I mean he's right about that. You can't 126 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: go out there against you know, the Patriots of the world, 127 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs and all those guys and expect to 128 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 1: hold them the want of five in the red zone. 129 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just not going to happen. Um, and 130 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: those teams are gonna capitalize off of those fumbles. We 131 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: saw that Randall Coop fumble. Um. I don't think it 132 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: was that. The only takeaway from the game. Wells the 133 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: interception lost that fumble. Ye can't turn the ball over 134 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: against a playoff team. So I mentioned to see how 135 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: that dynamical work going forward at this season. Yeah, because 136 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,679 Speaker 1: what's the mindset as a player when you guys feel 137 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: like you're probably more talented than another team, But it's 138 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: the constant shooting yourself in the foot thing? I mean, 139 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: is it? How do you how do you rationalize that? 140 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: How do you get past it? I guess is the question. 141 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: Because they the Philly game before the bye, that was 142 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: a complete football game. That was the best I think 143 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: we'd seen them all season. And I don't I didn't. 144 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: I didn't feel notice disappointment necessarily from the offensive side 145 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: of the ball. But I think that, you know, because 146 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: it felt like they were getting what they wanted offensively, 147 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: Zeke Elliott, offensive line dominated up front. But when you're 148 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: not able to cash in, how frustrating is they get? 149 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: As a player, Oh, it's frustrating, especially on the defensive 150 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: side of the ball, when you're playing your butts off, 151 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: you're holding them in the red zone like that, and 152 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: you see your offense is just dominating. I mean these 153 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: holes that Zeke were running through, I mean I could 154 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: probably fit through a couple of those holes. I mean, 155 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: but it's frustrating as a defensive player. I know that. 156 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: But you know, the offense was able to rally in 157 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: a second half. They were able to make adjustments that 158 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: they needed to make, And I feel like New York 159 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: never throughout the whole game. I feel like the Cowboys 160 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:32,599 Speaker 1: just impose their will on a New York, especially offensively 161 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: and defensively. But offensively, I feel like they imposed it will, 162 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: especially in a run game. So if they can continue 163 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: to doing that and continue scoring points, I mean, it's 164 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: not gonna be that frustrating for this defense. You know, 165 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: I was laughing. So before the game, I talked with 166 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: a friend of mine that covers the Giants, and he said, oh, 167 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: he goes the Cowboys will score however many points they 168 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: want to score. It goes in. It just happened. And 169 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: I'm sitting there at halftime and it's thirteen to twelve, 170 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: and I'm going, Okay, this maybe not was accurate, right 171 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: because they're not going to score as many and then 172 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: all of a sudden they turn it on and uh boy, 173 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: you're right on the offensive line played so well. Um, 174 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: you know, another game, Dak doesn't get sacked. I know 175 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: he had to use his legs to get out of 176 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: trouble a couple of times, but still no sacks. And 177 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: you can almost watch him in the pocket when he 178 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: sets up and he's looking around and you're going, okay, 179 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: he's got something here. You know, you don't even need 180 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: to look downfield. It's you could tell his his his 181 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: position in the pocket and how he's holding himself. That's like, okay, 182 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: he's got a pass coming up. And that's what happened 183 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: on that touchdown to Cooper. They had they had to 184 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: blow that coverage right then. Oh yeah, I mean the 185 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: corner would lack acted like he was in zones and 186 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: everybody else was everybody was a man and that in 187 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: that play. I mean, I'm not I'm surprised New York 188 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: didn't see that coming. I mean, that's a staple of 189 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 1: Garrett's offense. I know he's not the OC anymore, but 190 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: that big time dagger, h yeah, big time dig route 191 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: about fifteen to twenty yards deep. That's on the main say, 192 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: since I've been playing here, like, did you know that's 193 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: coming as the guy to have it play? And but um, 194 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: you said it right when Dak was back there, his 195 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: command and just his composure back there, he knew he 196 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: had to play open and he threw a strike right 197 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: down the middle to a Cooper then he finished the rest. 198 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: So I mean, his composure in the pocket was outstanding. 199 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: This game has been pretty much all season. So let's 200 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: go back to that first interception. Did the safety do 201 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: you think Dak did the safety full dack or did 202 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: Dak not see where the safety came down into them. 203 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: I don't think he saw him. I mean I think 204 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,079 Speaker 1: he you know, he saw a kind of open grass 205 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: over there and saw that slant kind of open. But 206 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: I think but they did a good job of kind 207 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: of tatting in the weeds because he was the whole 208 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: time because he was like right, I think he was 209 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 1: a yard scripts almost right. I just don't think he 210 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: saw him behind those bohemous and he made a good play. 211 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: I mean, how goes off to him. He made a 212 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: good play. But our defense once the game was able 213 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: to rally and the Cowboys safety said, we don't need 214 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: no jamal animal, Xavier woods right at by him. He 215 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: had a heck of a game out there. And the 216 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 1: further interception that he had I loved how it was 217 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: a great play by him. He was in the mid 218 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: center of center field, played it great. But I loved 219 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: how Woozier was able to funnel the receiver into his 220 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: help at the post safety spot. You know a lot 221 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: of the times you see those deep fade balls going 222 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 1: out outside near the sidelines, and you know the safety 223 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: can't really do anything over there. But he was able 224 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: to funnel him to the numbers, which any good safety 225 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: back there should be able to center field between the numbers. 226 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: He did a great job of funneling them in there. 227 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: Xavier made the great pick got him back in field 228 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: goal range. I mean, it was a heck of a play. 229 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: And then you saw how he laid the lumber on 230 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: young Danny Dimes over there later on in the game. 231 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: I mean he came to play. When you guys, when 232 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: you played a rookie quarterback in the past, is the 233 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: mindset if we just continued to hit him and pressure him, eventually, 234 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: there's gonna be mistakes, man, because I think he think 235 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: he had about thirteen turnovers going into the game, and 236 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: he hadn't played a full season either. Oh yeah, he's 237 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: been Yeah, I think he's tied for most in the 238 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: league with seven fumbles or something. Yeah, but yeah, when 239 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 1: you're playing a young guy like that, you gotta kind 240 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: of lick your chops. You know, that defensive line was 241 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: getting after him if they can disguise their coverage because 242 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: you know, he hasn't seen everything. He's not a Tim 243 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: Brady's not Aaron Riders who have seen every defense out there. 244 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: So if you're able to disguise your coverages and get 245 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: him off his first read, you should be able to 246 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: eat out there. And I always were able to. You know, 247 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: it's almost like a boxing match, right, you keep throwing 248 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:15,080 Speaker 1: body shots, sooner or later the head falls. You keep 249 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: hitting him and his head starts coming down. Uh, and 250 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: that's what they should have done, Sam Darnald. That's it. 251 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: I agree. Third the third play, their third defensive play 252 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: of the game, they blitzed Heath with oh yeah in 253 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: the goal line there. That's what they should have been 254 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: doing against Sam Darnald, you know. And they blitzed a 255 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 1: lot more than I think we've seen them blitz this year. 256 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: I mean, they had Jalen Smith in there blitzing or 257 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: rushing off the edge, and like you said, Heath was 258 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: in there off the air, so they confused them a 259 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: little bit out there, and they had them kind of 260 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: with happy feedback there not knowing where it was coming, 261 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: and he was just kind of I gotta get rid 262 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: of it. And now they ate a great job of that. 263 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: And I agree they shtood dom that against Sam Donald. 264 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: Were you guys surprised and maybe I shouldn't be surprised, 265 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: Michael Bennett, I think it's forty three snaps in the game. 266 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: I was getting ready to print it out and that 267 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: I forgot. I think. I mean, he played a good 268 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: number of snaps, right, and I mean you could argue 269 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: he had as much impact rushing the passers d Law 270 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: or Robert coinnin the game what'd you see from him? Barry? 271 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: I was really impressed. I Mean I knew coming into 272 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 1: the game he had a high energy, high motor type guy. 273 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: So I knew Rod was going to fall in love 274 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: with that, because you know, if he doesn't loaf out there, 275 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: you're one of Rod's guys right there. So I knew 276 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: he had an advantage from that point. But the way 277 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: he just continued to motor through and then have that 278 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: interior pressure that we've been missing out on all season 279 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: was key for me. I mean, he was getting after 280 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: the quarterback and I think he had a sack in 281 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: that game as well, So I mean his presence was known. 282 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: I mean he was getting under the skin of Will 283 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: Hernandez out there. I mean he was just his energy 284 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,240 Speaker 1: out there. You could see it. I mean everybody was 285 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: kind of just rallying around him. Every play he made 286 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: or every play somebody else made, he was all around it. 287 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: The juice was heavy, so I think he kind of 288 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: brought that extra momentum, that juice to the defense that 289 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: they needed, and the capitalized off it and they fed 290 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: off of it. He had three tackles, one sack, two 291 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: tackles for losses, and four quarterback hits impressed. He would 292 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: have had another one if he didn't get called for 293 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: finding up in the neutral zone. Yeah, which I would 294 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 1: like to go back and see because the well, if 295 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: the TV line was actively his hand was right on 296 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,839 Speaker 1: the line. It wasn't like he jumped past it. It's like, 297 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: what are you looking at? Did that extend to drive? Yes, 298 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: that was a third That was a third down, I 299 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: believe if I remember correctly, it was early Yeah, that 300 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: was the Lattimer touchdown. Drive off sides, yeah, yeah, early 301 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: second quarter. But overall he had a couple of defensive 302 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: off sides. But but it's effort, you're right, motive effort man. 303 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: And even when he got blocked, he just keeps pushing 304 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: and pushing and pushing. And he's not the biggest guy. 305 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: I mean, he's two seventy two seventy five, um. But yeah, 306 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: and I was surprised they used him as much a 307 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: defensive end also, so they they subbed him in there 308 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: for Lawrence quite a bit, actually left defensive defensive end. 309 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: And you saw him too, and d law will do 310 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: it too. But that why where he's almost like a 311 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: five technique I guess, I mean where he loves doing that. 312 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: We see him do that in the pass where he 313 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 1: can kind of use that space to get to the quarterback. Um, 314 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: you know, maybe I should be surprised. I mean, he's 315 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: familiar with the scheme Chris Chard, and he's been playing. 316 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: It's not like he's not in shape, but it looks 317 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 1: like exactly. I mean, it was basically watching what Tyrone 318 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: Crawford gives his defense when he's healthy, and I think 319 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: this Scots might be even better at what you know, 320 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: it's Tyrone was great, but this guy's i think at 321 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: a different level his pass rush at least anyway he 322 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: really comes And like I said, all he needed to 323 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: know is there's the quarterback. You're supposed to go get him. 324 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: You know. In a couple of times they got theirselves 325 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: in trouble. They were too aggressive when they ran those 326 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: misdirection plays and the rounds and you know, they were 327 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: all crashing in towards the quarterback and wide open spaces. 328 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: But having said all that, the Giants only scored eighteen points. 329 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's just unbelievable to me. And and 330 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: and the turning point of the game was that kind 331 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: of fifty It was like a minute in five seconds 332 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: where uh they ended up with the Blake Jarwin touchdown 333 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: that might have been two yards and the street continues 334 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: for Blake Jarwin. He's got six touchdowns, five gets the Giants. 335 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: He could just play the Giants every time, but he 336 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: scores the the The Giants get the ball back with 337 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: like fifty two seconds, and I'm sitting there going, Okay, 338 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: you gotta lead. It's twelve to ten. Don't get fancy here, 339 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: and on third down at the twenty six, they're gonna 340 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: throw a bomb. That didn't understand it at all. What 341 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: are you thinking about, right, and just chucked it up 342 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: in the double coverage for a team that had only 343 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: scored ten with three points, you gave up ten in 344 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: a minute, and yeah, fifty two. I was a huge 345 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: momentum ship. I didn't understand that. Maybe they thought, you know, 346 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: we can get some points before half, but the way 347 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: your offense was going that whole game, I just don't 348 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: think that would have been a smart move. I think 349 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: you just ran a clock out and winning the halftime. 350 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: But godboys took advantage of it, so that that was 351 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: a huge turnaround in the game. Um. And then the 352 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: other big turnaround is when the black cat came right, 353 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: Because you ever seen something like that. Even I've seen, 354 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: you know, birds maybe on the field or something, or 355 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: a squirrel, but I don't know if I've ever seen 356 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: a black cat, right, and a healthy black cat. Oh yeah, 357 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: he was junk. He was eating good. Yeah. Yeah, that's 358 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: a starved stray. This dude was living in the stadium. 359 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: That was no accident. He's just a stray off the 360 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: you know, out of the swamps in the meadowlands there. 361 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: That was somebody's pet. Oh yeah, well you guys were 362 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: it was was the Was the cat on there during play? 363 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah? Oh yeah, because they were the Giants were 364 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: going to our left. The cat was in the end 365 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: zone at the right, and he's screwing around there. And 366 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: Jason said this morning, he finally told the official in 367 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: front of him, he goes, how much longer are we 368 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: gonna do this with the cat on the field? You know, 369 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: I don't even know if they were aware, Well, they 370 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: weren't aware of a lot of things, and I guess 371 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: they wouldn't have seen a cat too. Uh. And Jerry 372 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: said this morning, he goes, out was a scary looking 373 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: cat too, Yeah, especially when they had the close up 374 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: out o space. He was ready to play. Yeah, but 375 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if I've seen a cat come on 376 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 1: the field like that. That was that was different, especially 377 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: since it was wandering around before they decided to stop play. 378 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: But anyway, I think it was seven plays later. You know, 379 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: they they they're up twelve to three. They went on 380 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 1: a ten nothing run after MetLife catman. Well actually they 381 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: they and then they and then after that they ended 382 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: up out scoring him thirty four to to six. Right, 383 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: thirty four to six. That's unbelievable. So, you know, I 384 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: thought they brought the cat out to kind of jinks 385 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, and it's like you think they brought it 386 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: out kind of jinx themselves. I don't know if they 387 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,680 Speaker 1: brought him out, but I'll mean, where did that cat 388 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: come from? He had to come down through the tunnel 389 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: to see him. Guy was checking my bad check the 390 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: cat's badge. I was trying to think, Verry, like, in 391 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: all the years you've been here, was there anything close 392 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: to that on the just weirdness on the field. I 393 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: don't know. And my nine years of playing, I've never 394 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: seen anything like an animal come in. I've never seen 395 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: a streak or anything like that. I mean, it's that 396 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: was pretty awesome. You know what happens in baseball a lot. 397 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: I think you know, you end up running around after something, 398 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: you make a fool of yourself because you ain't kind 399 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: of catch the cat. Well, that's what I was yelling 400 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: the press. Somebody just pick it up. Yeah, but I 401 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: guess that's in front of six thousand people in national TV. 402 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: When that cat starts dark, you got no shot at all, Right, 403 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: you're just kind of hoping to kind of encourage them 404 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 1: to kind of move towards one over here. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 405 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: Did you hear the Kevin Harlan call? Yes? I did 406 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: on Westwood one. Ye, that was incredible. He did play 407 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: by play based the cat as well, because some kind 408 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: of rest not seeing stuff. What were you guys thoughts 409 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: on those past interference calls or no, I'm not sure 410 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: they got any of them, right, Yeah, it was it 411 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: was rough, rough for them, Like the rest of what 412 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying, it was rough. It was Shermer. He challenged 413 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,880 Speaker 1: one no call, right, the one with Ingram. I believe 414 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 1: with Ingram, and I think it's just reached a point now. 415 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 1: I don't coaches just maybe resigned to the fact that 416 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: if it's not Saints Rams, it's not being over to, 417 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: it's got to be oblivious. Yeah, for them to do that, 418 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: I mean because if you if you do it in 419 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: slow motion, everything looks like passing their friends if you 420 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:24,399 Speaker 1: do it in slow motion. But um, that one on Ingram, 421 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: I thought, I think he got there a little early, 422 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: but because he kind of came through his back he 423 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: did right. Now. I know he reached over and got 424 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: the ball, but he kind of came through his back 425 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: to get there. Um. Now, the one on the one 426 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: they called, the one they called with the guy Baker, 427 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,719 Speaker 1: I believe they was Baker on Cooper. You know, he 428 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: was kind of holding him back. He had his arm 429 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: kind of arm barn them in there. But I've seen worse. 430 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, right, ye seen worse. Yeah. The only one 431 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: they got right was the one then when a woozy 432 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: the guy kind of tripped down and fell and I 433 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: didn't think he really pushed him or anything, but they 434 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: at least didn't call that. I'm interested in your thoughts 435 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 1: as a dB because to me, it's reached a point 436 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,479 Speaker 1: where we've analyzed this so much that it's almost like 437 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,959 Speaker 1: the catch rule, like, I'm not sure any now, I'm 438 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 1: second guessing myself on every call or no call. I mean, yeah, 439 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: as adep yeah, you're scared to even put hands on 440 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: these guys. I mean, like you said the one with 441 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: with Cooper out there, you know, as a dB, I'm thinking, oh, 442 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: they're hand fighting out there, But I guess the rest 443 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,719 Speaker 1: out otherwise. But I mean it's hard as a defender. 444 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't touch the past five yards. Um, 445 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: you can't hit them like you one two. It's it's 446 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: tough for a defender out there. But I guess you gotta, 447 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: you know, kind of adjust to the rules and make plays. 448 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: Now the best ones do it, except I just don't 449 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: think they're being consistent. That is true on how they're 450 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: doing it. So how do you how do you adjust? 451 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: And if I'm a coach, I'm not even challenging pass 452 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: interference anymore. Oh yeah, I'm not wasting a challenge one 453 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: now because they're not gonna overturn, not gonna do it. 454 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: I was surprised when Shermer did it. 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After the event festivities, 506 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: the Star will be hosting the top two Madden players 507 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 1: as they face off in the EA Sports Madden NFL 508 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: twenty Club champion Ship presented by Spire. So that commission 509 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 1: in parking or free that's gonna be on the big 510 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,879 Speaker 1: video board. You're gonna see it. It's in the plaza, 511 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,959 Speaker 1: So yeah, I guess so it is. Those guys are 512 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: gonna get nervous. I wouldn't too, yeah, but I mean 513 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: these are high level maddened guys though. Mac These guys 514 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 1: are like big time. I used to be superstitious, like 515 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: I never I was playing I never played Mad because 516 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: I figured if I got hurt in Mad, I would 517 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: have something crazy happened while I was playing Man and 518 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: my character got hurt or something, and I just I 519 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: was superstitious. Man. Never played it, never played in all 520 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: your years, never played it. I picked up the first, 521 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: my first copy of Men, and when I retired, so 522 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 1: it was twenty nineteen, I picked it. Was like, let 523 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: me see what this game is all about. But yeah, 524 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: I never wanted any parts of that. Man. That's funny 525 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: because every year when the Madden ratings come out, I 526 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: mean it's become a social media thing. Oh yeah, you 527 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 1: guys getting on Twitter reacting to the ratings, all that 528 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. Yeah, getting pissed off. You ever played No, 529 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: I played by that. I played some sort of video 530 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: game long long time ago when they first came out 531 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: with a Nephew. But and I had no idea what 532 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: I was doing. And you know, no it was football. 533 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: But I did play Pong. I was pretty darn good 534 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: at it. Take no super Bowl back. A little button 535 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 1: where you could accelerate guys, jump higher or whatever the 536 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,239 Speaker 1: deal was like, we're going back decades. Yeah, that's what 537 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's how long it's been. But no, I 538 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: got my own team to take care of it and 539 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: get worried. There we go. So next year there'll be 540 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: an option to put a black Cat on the field too. 541 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: I think that was speaking of superstitions, right, I get 542 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: Zeke and I think Dak said too, I'm not going 543 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: anywhere near this thing. I'm not said I'm not. He said, 544 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: I'm Alaric cats. I wasn't go and buy it. Mm 545 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: turned out Okay, that's the great Barry Church, Mickey Spagnola, 546 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: Rob Phillips Houston for Bill Jones Today, Cowboys win. It 547 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: was a final on that thirty seven eighteen eighteen because 548 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 1: I had thirty seven twenty after the game last night 549 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: and I was like, where did I get twenty? Jordan 550 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 1: Lewis with a late fumble return for a touchdown score. Yeah. Now, 551 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: these these takeaways are starting to come from come in bunches, 552 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: and that guy's for summer. He's always around the ball. 553 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: I feel like he's a magnet for some reason. Every 554 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: time he steps on the field something he's either getting 555 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: the PBu he should go to Vegas, played a lottery something. 556 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: Somebody throws him a pass and it goes right to 557 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 1: right and it's just some credit. No, I give him 558 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: credit for picking up the ball the way he did 559 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 1: on the run right. A lot of times guys flopping 560 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: around and you know they boot it and kick it 561 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: and and he just scooped and scored. That was a 562 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: good run too. That shows you what he can do. Yeah, 563 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: you know, Anthony Brown was active for this game, but 564 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: more snaps for Jordan Lewis and so I think that's, 565 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: you know, an indication that the coaching staff is saying, 566 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: all right, when you're out there, you're making plays. So 567 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: I think he'll relinquish his job or you think it's 568 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: his to his the keep. Yeah, I was trying to 569 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: kind of focus on the coverage part of it, but 570 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: I didn't see him making a bunch of tackles, which 571 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 1: means his guy probably didn't catch that many passes. Must 572 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: have been locking down out there. Yeah, let me see 573 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: what he hit, and you know he's made plays. It's 574 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: Barry's point when called upon and go back to last year, 575 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara did a nice job. A couple of weeks 576 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: ago just you know, some guys have a knack forward. Yeah, 577 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: well he did have six tackles, so he was around 578 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: it somewhere. As they're just you know it might not 579 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: be the greatest athletes, but they're just great football players. Yeah, 580 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 1: he seems to fit the mold of one of those, 581 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: and they did. They looked like they weren't going to 582 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: have Anthony Brown active, and then they changed it and 583 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 1: he was active and they used him on when they 584 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: went and dying. Yeah, I saw that they used him 585 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: and dying, but that was basically just about it. So yeah, 586 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: we'll see where that goes forward. But how about Sean Lee. 587 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: That's where I was going. Barry's guy played with him 588 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: a long time vintage league. Man, that's my guy right there. Man. 589 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: I was excited to see him out there playing as 590 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: fast as he did. I mean, he looked like a 591 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: rookie again. The guy was all over stake one and 592 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 1: he's type of a little dump off pass and usually 593 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: that's where it, say, Kauan makes his you know his yards, 594 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: A little dump off pass, make a guy missing, he's 595 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,719 Speaker 1: off for eighty h Sean wasn't having it. I mean, 596 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 1: he closed the gap on him, made a lot of 597 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: great open field tackles out there. Showed the physicality. I mean, 598 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: guy knocked the russ off last night. I was impressed. 599 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: Tight for the team lead with twelve tackles. Jalen Smith 600 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: had twelve. I believe they both had twelve. But he 601 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: was back playing his normal position, will right will. He 602 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: was playing the will, and that's supposed to be the 603 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: guy that's freed up to chase the ball. This is true. 604 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: This is true when we were playing, when I was 605 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: here playing with him, I mean, that was that was 606 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: his position. I mean, he was the linemann't wasn't getting 607 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: up to him. So he was out there free range 608 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: and basically making every play out there. And it looked 609 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: like he went back to that. I mean, um, no 610 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: lineman got up onto him. So it was a great 611 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: job I've been it down there and those boys to 612 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: keep the linman off of him, and uh, he was 613 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: able to flow and play free. And I made plays 614 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: for this team, and I was just like I said, 615 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: I was highly impressed by his play last night. And 616 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: then he played the nickel and yeah, and you know 617 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: he was so yeah, and then you know, the one 618 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: play they gave up was the sa Quon on the 619 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: screen and you know, they all kind of bid on whatever, 620 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: and no, there was only one guy over there and 621 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: he had three blockers out front, and then he did 622 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: his thing. But the next time they tried it, Sean 623 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: Lee goes, oh, no, you right. It was funny because 624 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: I was just looking at the box score before sae 625 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: Quon's big catch and run, and I think they'd allowed 626 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: thirty four total yards against him. I mean, that's I 627 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: don't know if you can defend a player of that 628 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,719 Speaker 1: caliber much better than they did. Go ahead. Sorry, well, 629 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,479 Speaker 1: as your point, Barry Jason was on the fan this 630 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: morning and talked about Sean and space and what he 631 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: was able to do, and he really was doing that 632 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: against Philly two when Layton went out as well, which 633 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: is so key against a guy like Barkley, and they 634 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: were at this defense did a great job of gang 635 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: tackling out there yesterday, I believe. I mean there was 636 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: there was solo tackles out there, but for the most part, 637 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: I mean you saw two, three, four, sometimes five hats 638 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: at the ball at one time, just picking apart these guys, 639 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: and at the end of the night, I just don't 640 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: think New York wanted any parts of it. I mean 641 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: here tooking a lot of hits. I mean Will they 642 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: traded Wijnandez was trying to swing on everybody. So I 643 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: mean they got under the skin and they just they 644 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: played a good brand of football. That's that guy got 645 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: away with murder. He did. If you can get rid 646 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: of if he could have murder on a football field, 647 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: because he was the instigator of all that stuff and 648 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: he never got called for anything, pushing people everything called 649 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: Xavier Woods for Tawny. I didn't see that one. Yeah, 650 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: like what we were looking for a replay, like did 651 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: he throw a punch or something? But I didn't didn't see. 652 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: I mean he shoved back right, maybe he said something. 653 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. They had referee had him kind of 654 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 1: cordoned off, and I know he was yelling but taunting. 655 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: And it wasn't that guy that called it. It It was 656 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 1: the guy who standing way over there. Yeah, I didn't 657 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 1: understand that one. They were missing a lot of things yesterday. 658 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: I asked one of the doctors after the game, because 659 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: there were so many personal fouls, I said, you guys, 660 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: get any personal fouls called on you shove anybody out 661 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: of bounds, I mean cutting it. That was a ridiculous 662 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: little segment they did. Right. So one of the stats 663 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: after the game, Cowboys defense, they allowed five of sixteen 664 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: third down conversions. On the season, they're holding opponents twenty 665 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: seven to ninety six. That's twenty eight percent completion percentage 666 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: on third down and it was twenty six percent. So 667 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,479 Speaker 1: it went up in that game because they gave up 668 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: thirty one percent second Lewis in the league and Barry, 669 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I think when we've talked about this defense 670 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: all year long, there haven't been that many games where 671 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: I feel like they've played up to their own standard. 672 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: So it's kind of like, man, what's the ceiling for 673 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: these guys if they can put it all together consistently, right, 674 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: if they can do it consistently, I mean, this is 675 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 1: this is to me is a top five defense, But 676 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: they got to do it consistently. We've sewn, we've we've seen, 677 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: like last week, they have the capabilities of rushing the 678 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: past room and making things happen, and we just haven't 679 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: seen it on consistent basis. Now, maybe with you know, 680 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: Bennett being there and bringing that juice to that defense, 681 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,160 Speaker 1: maybe we'll start to see it on a consistent basis. 682 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: But if they can get that done, I mean, this 683 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: guy's a limit. I mean they got the secondary, they 684 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: got all the pieces to be a great defense, a 685 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: top five defense. They just need to consistency, and I 686 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: think it will happen. I think Bennett's sort of like 687 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: Blake Jarwin. He'd like to play the Giants all the time. 688 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 1: I went back and looked at the the stats from 689 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: the two games he played with the Eagles against the 690 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: Giants last year. He had eighty two snaps. He had 691 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: seven tackles, two sacks, four quarterback hits, two tackles for 692 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,240 Speaker 1: a loss, and a forced fumble in the two games 693 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 1: against the Giants. And I was thinking, well, that's a 694 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: different quarterback, and I'm going no, it's the same offensive line, 695 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: so he should be he should be productive. I missed 696 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,239 Speaker 1: my gut feeling by a sack, right, What was your 697 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: guest feeling that he was going to get to two sacks? Oh? Yeah? 698 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: And I think he had another one that got called 699 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: back maybe or maybe he did something wrong. I can't 700 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: remember if it was the off sides or a in 701 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: the neutral zone. You know who also stepped up great 702 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: for interior rush was up Mali Collins. Yes, yes, and 703 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: he's been doing that. He's pasted couple of weeks. He's 704 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,239 Speaker 1: kind of turned it up a notch and U he's 705 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: kind of like, hey, don't forget about me, guys, I'm 706 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: still here. And uh, he looked great out there. I 707 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: mean he had interior pressure. When he wasn't sacking the quarterback, 708 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: he was in the quarterback's face causing Aaron throws. So 709 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: he played but off yesterday as well. Man, So shotuts 710 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: goes out to Malie Commins, Man, play great, Let's see 711 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: what the old Malik's lying here. I feel like his 712 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: best game might have been, to your point, Barry, the 713 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,479 Speaker 1: Philly game right before the bye, and they had two 714 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 1: sacks dot, two tackles, a sack, a tackle for a loss, 715 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: a quarterback hit. So yeah, he was pretty active in 716 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: the middle there. And Dorance Armstrong with late sack as well. 717 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: Is that his first sack of his career? Um? I 718 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,720 Speaker 1: think I might have heard that was the rookie inactive yesterday, 719 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: christ Joe Jackson, and they were both inactive. Yeah, I 720 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: would imagine Bennett kind of played for both of them, 721 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: that's true. I wonder if he'll see you think he'll 722 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 1: see the field the rest of this year, Tristan, He's 723 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: gonna have to be more productive. And I think with 724 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: Bennett here, I think that's it's gonna be tough if 725 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: everybody stays healthy. So and he needs to grow up 726 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, years old, you can get out 727 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 1: of a ros doghouse. Dude. Don't don't be showing up 728 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: late for anything anything, especially the first practice after a buye. 729 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, as a rookie years year. You know, 730 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 1: it went back to what remember when we were in 731 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: training camp. I can't remember who did what? And I said, 732 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 1: he's one of the expendables. If you're expendable, you can't 733 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: screw up because they will expend you. You're out right, 734 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: And so yeah, now they you know he's not. You know, 735 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 1: but sometimes guys just a little too young to understand 736 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: what this league is all about, you know. Any what, 737 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: any he my understanding. He just got there in time 738 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: for the for the charter on on how do you 739 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,279 Speaker 1: live your life that way? You can't rookie year, you 740 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,319 Speaker 1: gotta be there. I would have been there when when 741 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: they said the line opened at eleven forty five for 742 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: a one o'clock start departure. I'd have been there at 743 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: eleven forty six, so you gotta be I'd have been 744 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 1: there the first one. I mean, I'm paranoid enough because 745 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: they ain't waiting for me, right, yeah. I get paranoid 746 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,439 Speaker 1: by traffic any time. Back in the Valley Ranch days. 747 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 1: You know the airport was right there, right yeah, coming 748 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: from Frisco. Right, So I mean, you gotta leave yourself 749 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: enough time. You gotta know when to get there, especially 750 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: after making that mistake of being late right after the 751 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: biowek saw. It's not a good look, man, back to back, 752 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: not a good look. What's you've been a young player? 753 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: Plan for Rod? What's what's line one for playing well? 754 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: I mean his demands for a young player? What does 755 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: he tell guys? Pretty much the only thing he tells, 756 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 1: even are even a veteran guys, man, do not loaf 757 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 1: on my field if you loaf on that field. And 758 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: that's why I think Bennett is such a great fit 759 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,399 Speaker 1: for him, because he's a high motor guy. He doesn't loaf. 760 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: He gets after the quarterback and you know it, doesn't 761 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 1: complain about it. But back to Marinelli, I mean he 762 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: hates loafing with a passion, if you're on there and 763 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: you're getting his loaves, or consider getting passed up by 764 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,120 Speaker 1: a team, or getting passed up by a teammate, like 765 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 1: if you're hustling, and if it has to be in 766 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,880 Speaker 1: your same position group, Like if a D back passes 767 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: up a D lineman, I mean it's not that's not 768 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: a loaf. But if another D lineman passes you up, 769 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,439 Speaker 1: that's a loaf. If you have a speed change, that's 770 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: a loaf. If you're sitting on the ground and not 771 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,520 Speaker 1: getting off the ground like it's a hot plate, that's 772 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 1: a little fun. So I mean that's he's preaching that 773 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: each and every day. Don't loaf. I mean we're breaking 774 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 1: film down from practice saying, oh that's a loaf. That's 775 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: a little I mean, he's counting them out. I mean 776 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: it's it's it's great, but um, he gets those guys 777 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: rolling them. Man. And when he first came in here, 778 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: you know, I think it was twenty thirteen maybe yeah, 779 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: and we had a pretty bad defense. But that next 780 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,439 Speaker 1: year when we made the playoffs, I mean we took 781 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 1: leaps and bounds and I was just because of Rod 782 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 1: instilling that hustling to us, not to loaf, don't you know, 783 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: play for the name on the back of your jersey 784 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 1: type deal, And he got us flying around to the ball. 785 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 1: And from there on, I feel like just he kind 786 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 1: of just got the defense going in that direction where 787 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: you see four or five hats at the ball, not 788 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 1: just one. And I think that does the credit to 789 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 1: Rob and Eli's coaching ability. And I think Chris Roshard 790 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: has adopted I mean he probably had it already, true. 791 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: H they fit together pretty well. All right, good enough, 792 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: good stuff, Barry, all right, we'll take one more break. 793 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 1: Oh we're almost out of time. Back to wrap things up. 794 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: Next on talking Cowboys say eighteen sixty five steps and 795 00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: hats are American maid with pride. Right here in Texas, 796 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 1: Stetson is proud to be on the field with America's team. 797 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 1: Want to show your Texas and team pride too? You 798 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: can by purchasing your own Stetson. 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Back to talk in Cowboys. 826 00:39:55,600 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: So if you get to Jack Black dot com, Jack 827 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 1: at Made Santa Approved. The big guy knows a lot 828 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:09,040 Speaker 1: about keeping his beard groomed and looking season ready, but 829 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 1: Jack Black knows even more. Free Supreme Cream two point 830 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: six ounces with your sixty dollars purchase use the code 831 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,359 Speaker 1: Beard go to get Jack Black dot com. Way to go, Mick, 832 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,280 Speaker 1: here it is. That's the best part of our show, Barry. 833 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 1: We don't know where this is going to go most 834 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: of the time with these reads, but this is a 835 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 1: good read. I didn't have to add. Live man, it's 836 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,280 Speaker 1: almost holidaytime, huh. They got the holiday reads out, yeah already. 837 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,280 Speaker 1: I guess it. This thing's given coming up. The stores 838 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 1: already had Christmas stuff in before even Halloween. I did 839 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 1: see some Christmas last Seriously, I got the Thanksgiving Ye. 840 00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: It's coming up fast though, As you said that, there's 841 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: a quick stretch of games coming up, and they got 842 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 1: to be ready. I mean, this is a short week, Barry, 843 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,439 Speaker 1: how do you if you play a game like this 844 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,359 Speaker 1: last night, how do you try to get your body ready? 845 00:40:58,360 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 1: And it is a Sunday night game, But how do 846 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 1: you approach this week with Minnesota coming out? So for 847 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 1: this week, I'd still approach it the same type of 848 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: way as if it was a Sunday night, or if 849 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,839 Speaker 1: it was if we played on Sunday and we came 850 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: back around on a Sunday that it's still a nice 851 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 1: little chunk of time in between. But those Thursday night games, 852 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 1: those are the ones that'll that'll get you scratching your head, like, man, 853 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 1: we gotta go right back out there and do this. 854 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 1: And I believe that's the next one half of this. Well, 855 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: they'll play Minnesota, then at Detroit and then at New England. 856 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,320 Speaker 1: It's a late afternoon start and then you get back 857 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 1: real late. Probably it's a long flight. Yeah, and then 858 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: you gotta play Thursday. Yeah, that's the that transition right 859 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: there is going to be tough. It was always tough 860 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 1: for me just seeing you had your bumps up. You 861 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 1: don't really get over your bumps and bruises until about Thursday. 862 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: But that day you're expected to play a game so 863 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 1: I expect the coaches to kind of take the load 864 00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: off of them a little bit just to get ready 865 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 1: for this Thursday night game. But for this little stretch 866 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 1: they have coming up, I feel as though they'll have 867 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: a long enough break to get their bodies right and 868 00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 1: their mental capacity right to deal with Minuntesota team coming 869 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 1: in here. And that's gonna be no slouch. I mean, 870 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: they got Dalvin Cook back there, running the best he's 871 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 1: ever run. They got Diggs. I don't believe that Theeland 872 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 1: might play, but I'm not sure, but Diggs is enough. 873 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: I mean he's over there. He's an explosive weapon in 874 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 1: his own and uh Kirk Kirk cousins. I mean a 875 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,000 Speaker 1: lot of people were sleeping on him early in the season, 876 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 1: but he's kind of kind of turned the page a 877 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 1: little bit and he's been playing well. So and you 878 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,439 Speaker 1: know their defense is always coming to play no matter 879 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: who they play. So it's gonna be a great game. 880 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. So I know you guys 881 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,960 Speaker 1: are gonna be there, so it's gonna be an electric game. 882 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,399 Speaker 1: Jam will have them fired up for this one, right, 883 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: he was a old Cowboys coach for that. Yeah, Yeah, 884 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:35,919 Speaker 1: we fired up for this one for sure. A matter 885 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 1: of fact, Zem and I first met when he was 886 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: a graduate assistant at University of Missouri. Is that right. 887 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: I didn't know a coach there for like a year 888 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,879 Speaker 1: or two, I want to say, seven round seventy eight 889 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 1: maybe something like that, and that's how that's where he 890 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,840 Speaker 1: got his coach and start. Yeah, he got Terence Newman 891 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 1: coming back. He's oh Man, a lot of years, I 892 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: made a lot of knowledge. It's gonna be a great reunion, absolutely, 893 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: and it's the Vikings, So everybody will be talking about 894 00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 1: the hell Mary because anytime they play the Vikings that 895 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 1: the hell Mary comes up. Right, This is true. You've 896 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,759 Speaker 1: been on the Happy Hour show with us, and that 897 00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 1: was a great story. But Drew Pearson, Drew, he I 898 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: think ten minutes talking just broke it all down. And 899 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,320 Speaker 1: I feel like I heard that story a million times, 900 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: but he told it in depth, and you're writing a 901 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 1: story about that. I did for the Game Day magazine. Yeah, 902 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: I kind of went back and got all these interviews 903 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 1: I did with either Stabak or Drew and kind of 904 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 1: put it together and then tied it into the display 905 00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 1: here at the Star with the thirty six frames of 906 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 1: the play along drape down between the staircase here. Very cool, 907 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 1: that's what that. I always wonder what that is. That's 908 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,800 Speaker 1: why you didn't really it didn't really focus on it. No, 909 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,919 Speaker 1: I sound like the eighty and okay, that's pretty cool, 910 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,200 Speaker 1: but I didn't know. That's why they got. They got 911 00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,720 Speaker 1: they finally, and it took some deal because NFL Network 912 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 1: didn't have the shot of the play they needed, so 913 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: they went back to I believe it was CBS was 914 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: doing the game and they still had it in their archives. 915 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: So they took a frame by frame and there's no 916 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 1: one knew how many frames, so I had to walk 917 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,399 Speaker 1: up and down the steps counting and make sure. Right, 918 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 1: but there's thirty six pictures up there, and you know, 919 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,839 Speaker 1: no expense around here. And just to kind of tease it, 920 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 1: so Drew said that the night, the night before the game, 921 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 1: when he was sleeping, he had a dream that he 922 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 1: caught the winning touchdown and he threw the ball in 923 00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 1: the stands, which back then was a one hundred and 924 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 1: fifty dollars. Fine, I don't know what it is now 925 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,480 Speaker 1: if you cost me about five grand last nime. Okay, 926 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:46,200 Speaker 1: So he's so he's he said, he goes off. If 927 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,319 Speaker 1: I do anything good in this, I'm throwing. I'm gonna 928 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,240 Speaker 1: follow my dream. Right, So he scores and he didn't 929 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: think twice and he throws the ball but there was 930 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 1: no stands where he threw it, and it went past 931 00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,399 Speaker 1: the scoreboard into the parking lot. And to this day, 932 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 1: no one's ever claimed that they've got the ball. Never 933 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 1: been found again. It's in somebody trophy case. Wow. Yeah stuff. 934 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,840 Speaker 1: But if you had it, you know, I mean, that 935 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 1: would be worth a lot, right, absolutely, yeah, all right, 936 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 1: be on the lookout for your story, right, yes, absolutely. 937 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 1: On the Game Day magazine cover four players Verry Church 938 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 1: doing great work around here. Thanks so much for joining us. 939 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 1: This great Thanks for being with us. That was awesome. 940 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me all right, Cowboys win. It's a 941 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,520 Speaker 1: victory Tuesday here at the start and the break is next. 942 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. This has been a production of 943 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,800 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.