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Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, the Elite Eight the

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Speaker 1: first the top plays of twenty twenty, the best five

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Speaker 1: We'll save offense for next week. Kylodguard, our colleague from

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Speaker 1: the countdown. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode three eighty six,

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Speaker 1: and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with

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Speaker 1: Craig Griga Lew and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is

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Speaker 1: Murray rolls to the right, throws ner sight of Fritz

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Speaker 1: Want to extend our congratulations to Carson Palmer, the former

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Speaker 1: Fame when a thirteen inductees in the class of twenty

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Speaker 1: before he arrived with the Cardinals his college years five

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Speaker 1: the question, Carson Palmer deserves to be in that College

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Speaker 1: and I mean it's just remarkable. And he's not a

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Speaker 1: So good congratulations to him. Probably a better person off

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Speaker 1: Just how accessible, how available, how personable was he going

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Speaker 1: great position. He catches the ball, and I think if

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Speaker 1: you give him a full off season, gets stronger. You know,

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Speaker 1: give him the entire OTA's, the mandatory mini camp and

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Speaker 1: a couple preseason games. He will be the starting inside

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Speaker 1: linebacker next to Jordan Hicks, and he'll be a three

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Speaker 1: down backer that can do a lot of different things.

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Speaker 1: And you look at him in Buddha. The position flexibility

436
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Speaker 1: really helped his defense. And they're young, and you know,

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Speaker 1: you could just see that they haven't reached your peak yet,

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Speaker 1: obviously for Simmons. By the way, Simmons his first career

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Speaker 1: interception and first career sack, both coming against the Seahawks

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Speaker 1: quarterback Russell Wilson all right quickly recap the top five

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Speaker 1: plays defensively by the Cardinals and twenty twenty number five

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Speaker 1: Buddha Baker's first career interception against the Cowboys Byron Murphy's

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Speaker 1: pass breakup to seal the win Week one against the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers, Number three Buddha Baker almost picks six

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Speaker 1: as he was caught from behind by DK Metcalf. The

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Speaker 1: son Reddick's five sack day against the New York Giants

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Speaker 1: highlighted that fifth and final sack, the forced fumble that

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Speaker 1: he caused, and then number one Isaiah Simmons his overtime

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Speaker 1: interception against the Seahawks that helped set up the game

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Speaker 1: winning field goal. All Right, so we all love Dennis Gardeck.

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Speaker 1: I means seven sacks and ninety three snaps, and I

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Speaker 1: had Guardick with number four. But those inside moves against

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Speaker 1: the Jets, I'm shocked because he was kind of one

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Speaker 1: of the bright spots. But when you start mentioning his son, Reddick,

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Speaker 1: who obviously had a better year, you know, you look

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Speaker 1: at Byron Murphy. We know they set the tone for

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Speaker 1: the first game of the year. And then obviously Baker

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Speaker 1: getting his first interception. So Dennis Gardeck didn't make the cut. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I had him at I had him at number five,

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Speaker 1: MJ and I took away Baker's first creator receptions just

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Speaker 1: because he was already in the top five. And it

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Speaker 1: was like you, I wanted to reward Dennis Gardeck for

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Speaker 1: what I was able to do, especially that game against

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Speaker 1: the Jets. He had never played defense at all during

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Speaker 1: his entire career, and all of a sudden gets two

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Speaker 1: sacks with Chandler Jones on the sidelines. The top three

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Speaker 1: moments were pretty unanimous basically, and everybody's top five the

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Speaker 1: last two buyer Murphy's pass breakup and Buddha Baker's first interception.

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Speaker 1: They sneaked in there, but Guardeck was a candidate. Patrick

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Speaker 1: Peterson interception against the Bills, Marcus Golden had an interception

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Speaker 1: and a sack that we're both in the mix. So

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Speaker 1: a lot of different voting at the four and five spots,

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Speaker 1: but Murphy and Baker edged out Guardeck and Peterson and

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Speaker 1: Golden and all those guys. Well, if you want to

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Speaker 1: see all five of those plays, just go to easy

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Speaker 1: Cardinals dot com. Coyle's got a story up plus each

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Speaker 1: of the individual highlights as well. All right, as we

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Speaker 1: continue here on Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hunday, probably

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Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals, let's switch over to Special

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Speaker 1: Teams and the top five special teams plays of twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Number five might be my most favorite play because we

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Speaker 1: still don't really have an answer on Kylie Fitz's kick

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Speaker 1: fumble at the New York Giants Week fourteen, Cardinals kicking

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Speaker 1: off after a Mike Nugent field goal to make it

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Speaker 1: six nothing, And the question is, Kyle, was it intentional?

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Speaker 1: This is where we missed film room in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: because we needed Kylie Fitz to answer the question. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he was blocked from behind. Maybe it was more of

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Speaker 1: a national instinct to lift up his right leg towards

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Speaker 1: the ball, But intentional or not. If it's intentional, that's

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Speaker 1: the penalty. So my guess is it was not intentional.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you a Cardinal's cover too exclusive right here.

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Speaker 1: Because I didn't talk to Kylie Fitz, but I talked

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Speaker 1: to Jeff Rogers a couple of weeks ago. This didn't

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Speaker 1: make it into my story, but I asked him about

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Speaker 1: that play. He said, it's not a teaching point. You

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Speaker 1: don't teach somebody to kick the ball out. And it

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Speaker 1: was unintentional, just fortuitous for the Cardinals that Kylie Fitz

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Speaker 1: did get his foot in there. And you're right, he

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Speaker 1: just kind of got blocked and his foot came up

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00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: and and pop the ball right out from Dean Lewis

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Speaker 1: and Trent Sherfield made a nice play to jump on it.

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Speaker 1: It seemed like Trent Sherfield, no matter if the ball

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Speaker 1: is on the ground within a foot or five feet

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Speaker 1: of him, he's going to be the guy jumping on it.

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Speaker 1: But uh, fortuitous play for the Cardinals. And then and

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Speaker 1: then a nice play by Trent Sherfield. Yeah, the second

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Speaker 1: fumble recover MJ for Sherfield. By the way, in as

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Speaker 1: many weeks, he was always around the football. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: we always talk about you know, Guard Deck and Scherfield

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Speaker 1: and Zeke Turner on special teams and here's Kylie Fitz.

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Speaker 1: You know obviously if you're when you're gonna dress on

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Speaker 1: game day, you know he get a chance to play

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Speaker 1: a little outside linebacker. Um, you're gonna have to, you know,

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Speaker 1: play on teams. And that's probably why he's still on

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Speaker 1: the roster. And you know, he's a good depth guy,

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Speaker 1: So good to see him has some success where he's

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Speaker 1: not getting a ton of playing time on dans. All right,

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Speaker 1: as we continue here, Top five plays on special teams.

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Speaker 1: Number four, Zeke Turner, who will talk about more as

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Speaker 1: we count down. But the block punt against the Eagles

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Speaker 1: happened in the first quarter. Cardinals had nine to nothing

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Speaker 1: and it was a block that helped set up Chase

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Speaker 1: Edmonds's six yard touchdown catch that made it sixteen nothing

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Speaker 1: at the two eighteen mark of the first quarter. At

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Speaker 1: that point, I think we all anticipated a blowout win

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Speaker 1: for the Cardinals over the Eagles. Didn't happen that way.

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Speaker 1: But once again, Zeke Turner, Johnny on the spot if

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Speaker 1: you will. Yeah, I think if we named a Special

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Speaker 1: Teams Player of the Year, it would be unanimous for

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Speaker 1: Zeke Turner with all the plays he made, and he's

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Speaker 1: going to be a notable name on this list coming

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Speaker 1: up too. But I think the play against the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: I think he said he wasn't even touched on that one,

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Speaker 1: So that might have just been an issue of what

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia did with their punt kicking team. But even so,

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Speaker 1: it's it's always kind of dicey because when you get

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Speaker 1: in there, you know you have to get a part

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Speaker 1: of the ball if you're going to run into the

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Speaker 1: kicker or run into the punter, because it's a flag

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Speaker 1: if you don't, so I think a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: are hesitant in those situations. They don't want to get

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Speaker 1: the penalty. But Zeke Turner realized I can block this point,

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Speaker 1: and he did a nice job of really going all

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Speaker 1: out for it, and there are about six Cardinals running

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Speaker 1: after it. If it doesn't go out of bounds, they

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Speaker 1: easily scooped that up and get a touchdown on special teams.

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Speaker 1: But like you said, they scored, and we didn't know

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Speaker 1: it at the time that that touchdown would be so important.

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Speaker 1: But considering the Cardinals were up sixteen zero, that game

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Speaker 1: was tied at twenty six a couple hours later, so

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Speaker 1: that pump pump block turned out to be really important

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Speaker 1: for that victory. Yeah, and you wonder if Jeff Rogers

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Speaker 1: was able to see something during the week, because sometimes

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Speaker 1: you know they're planning to return. In this case, I mean,

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Speaker 1: and I gotta think that guy has the authority if

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Speaker 1: they see a certain formation to do that and make

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Speaker 1: sure everyone knows about it. So that's why I think

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Speaker 1: we're all like Jeff Rogers justn't head coach special teams guy.

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Speaker 1: I think you know he wants to get the attorney

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Speaker 1: units a little bit better next year or this year.

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Speaker 1: But for the most part, I mean, that's stuff you

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Speaker 1: watched there in the week, and if you feel like

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Speaker 1: you got an angle, go for it, because you know

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Speaker 1: they work on stuff every week, but we don't see

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Speaker 1: it until the game comes. Number three on our Top

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Speaker 1: five Plays Special Teams, Zane Gonzalez game winning field goal

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Speaker 1: against the Seahawks. Again, we're talking about Week seven, and

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Speaker 1: this was really redemption for Gonzalez who had missed from

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Speaker 1: forty one yards earlier and overtime that would have won it.

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Speaker 1: So here he gets a second chance, and he sent

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Speaker 1: the game into overtime with a forty four yard field

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Speaker 1: goal as time expired. So it was one of those games, Kyle,

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Speaker 1: where we were cheering Zane and then booing Zane and

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Speaker 1: then cheering him again. And what stands out is he

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Speaker 1: received the game ball, but was kind of reluctant and

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Speaker 1: accepting that because you get a second chance to really

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Speaker 1: win that game for the Cardinals. Yeah, and when he

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Speaker 1: missed that first overtime kick, I think we all of

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Speaker 1: us doubted whether the Cardinals would even get the ball

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Speaker 1: back because it felt like the Seahawks We're going to

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Speaker 1: march into field goal range and score and get the wins.

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Speaker 1: So going back to Isaiah Simmons with that great interception

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Speaker 1: and that was the big play, but the work certainly

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00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: wasn't done at that point. The Cardinals had to move

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Speaker 1: the ball a little bit and get zangen z all

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Speaker 1: Us in range and then he had to make that

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Speaker 1: kick and it was it wasn't a short one, like

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Speaker 1: you said, Craig, and important for him to kick it

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Speaker 1: through right after he missed one and he was able

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Speaker 1: to turn around and make it, and obviously that was

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Speaker 1: a clutch kick that he converted. And then later in

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Speaker 1: the season he missed some of those type of kicks

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Speaker 1: and then got hurt. So definitely a mixed bag of

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Speaker 1: a season for zenon z all S, but this was

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Speaker 1: probably the highlight where he had helped his team beat

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks in a very important game. Well the one

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Speaker 1: prior to that, we're both sitting in the press box

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Speaker 1: and we're watching, and we're watching or like this thing

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Speaker 1: is not long enough. And then he literally I didn't

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Speaker 1: know until a couple weeks later. He literally looked at

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Speaker 1: Brewer or Andy leanson, I don't know what happened. They're

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Speaker 1: like Okay, I mean it was I just I just

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Speaker 1: remember sitting the press box next to Craig and I'm

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Speaker 1: like okay, okay, and then boom. So yeah, it's unfortunate that,

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Speaker 1: you know, when you're in the NFL, you got close

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Speaker 1: games and get Mike Nugit a lot of credit because

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Speaker 1: he came in and gave his team a lift. I

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00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: think we were somewhat concerned about his kickoffs. That wasn't

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Speaker 1: an issue. Maybe he doesn't kick fifty five yarders, but

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Speaker 1: at least it was consistent from his part. So you know,

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Speaker 1: he's what thirty seven and thirty eight years old, So

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Speaker 1: I still think they believe in Zane. By the way, Kyle,

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Speaker 1: did I hear you correctly? You use the word clutch

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Speaker 1: with respects to Zane Gonzalez. I thought the analytics didn't

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Speaker 1: really believe in clutch. There can be clutch moments, there's

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Speaker 1: not a clutch gene. So it was it was a

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Speaker 1: clutch kick right there, because I already know the result,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not going to say that somebody is going

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Speaker 1: to make or miss because of a certain gene. So okay, Kyle,

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Speaker 1: did they get momentum from the Simmons interception. No, they

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Speaker 1: didn't get any momentum, but they got they got the

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Speaker 1: ball back with a chance to win. Speaking of momentum,

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Speaker 1: it leads us to our number two special teams play

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty. Zeke Turner with the first of his

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Speaker 1: two block punts list past season. But this was a

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Speaker 1: block punt against the forty nine Ers in Week one.

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Speaker 1: The setup the Cardinals trail ten nothing just five minutes

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Speaker 1: into the game. Forty nine Ers scored on their first

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Speaker 1: two possessions. On their third possession, though, they go three

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Speaker 1: and out and Turner rushes up the middle, blocks the punt.

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Speaker 1: Guardek recovers, and then on the very next play, Kyler

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Speaker 1: Murray throws a ten yard touchdown pass the chase Edmonds

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Speaker 1: and as we said, that day turned the game around

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Speaker 1: completely and as the broadcast said as well, Dave Passion

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Speaker 1: Ron Wilfley changed the momentum of the game. Why are

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Speaker 1: you doing this to me? I mean, yeah, at ten

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Speaker 1: zero against the defending NFC champions on the road, and

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00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: at that point San Francisco had pretty much everybody healthy.

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Speaker 1: I think Deebo Samuel and Brandon Ayuk didn't play in

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Speaker 1: that game, but that defense was full go a defense

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Speaker 1: that was super elite the season before, and that was

643
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: a game that looked really bad for the first five

644
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: minutes or so, when you're already down ten oh, and

645
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: I was thinking, okay, are they going to get blown

646
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: out in this game? And then Ezekiel Turner comes up

647
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: with this fantastic play Cardinals score, and then they're back

648
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: in and then it's ten to seven and you're settling

649
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: in and you feel like, Okay, we're not going to

650
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: get blown out. So I do think from an emotional standpoint,

651
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: that did help settle them down. I don't know if

652
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: the Cardinals got any momentum from it, but they certainly

653
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: went from down ten to down three in a heartbeat,

654
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 1: and that helped him come back and win. Yeah. I

655
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: remember that first game, and I don't know if that's

656
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: what Kyle Shanahan thought of Isaiah Simmons. If you remember

657
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: those first couple of plays, he targeted him and he

658
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: had like a fifty six yard touchdown and wasn't you know?

659
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: But after that, you know, things settled down. But you

660
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: could see you knowing that where's he going to play?

661
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: Is he an inside? Is he is safety? But they

662
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: targeted Isaiah Simmons on those first couple of drives and

663
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: advantage Kyle Shanahan. All right, So that leaves us with

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Speaker 1: one last play, and that would be Andy Lee's fake

665
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 1: punt pass to once again Zeke Turner against the Eagles.

666
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: Perfect execution here. The offense had stalled, it was three

667
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: and out, so you're looking at a fourth and two

668
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: at your own thirty three yard line of a twenty

669
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: six twenty six game was still basically the entire fourth

670
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: quarter left, and Lee throws a twenty six yard passed

671
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: the Turner to keep the drive going. The drive didn't

672
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: result in any points, but at flip field position, defense

673
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 1: got a three and out and then the offense responded

674
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: with the game winning touchdown Kyler Murray to DeAndre Hopkins. Yeah,

675
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: and like Mike said earlier, Jeff Rogers does a really

676
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 1: good job of drilling down during the week and figuring

677
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: out weaknesses on the other special teams unit, and they

678
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 1: clearly felt like the so was a play that would

679
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: be open and they could make it work. Because that's

680
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: a really pivotal spot in a game, early fourth quarter,

681
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 1: tie game. If this ball falls incomplete, you give the

682
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: Eagles possession at the Cardinals thirty three yard line and

683
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: you're already in field goal range to start that series.

684
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 1: So a lot of guts being shown on that play.

685
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: And it was I think fourth and two, So you

686
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: could have done a fake punt run in that situation

687
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: when you only need two yards, and that would make

688
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: sense to a lot of people. Instead, they believed that

689
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: Andy Lee could throw a perfect pass twenty six yards

690
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: down the field to a linebacker who hadn't caught a

691
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: pass since high school. And the thing that stood out

692
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: to me, it just looks so smooth. It looked like

693
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray to DeAndre Hopkins. I mean, the pass was perfect,

694
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: Zeke Turner looked over his shoulder and hauled in the

695
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: catch and kept on running. I mean, the execution was

696
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,479
Speaker 1: just flawless. And that's what stood out to me the most.

697
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: Those two guys really did a great job and that's

698
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: not part of their job description to throw the pass

699
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: and to catch the pass, but they both did it.

700
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: And like you said, it didn't end up in points,

701
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,840
Speaker 1: but the downside of falling incomplete on that was huge,

702
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: and catching it, you figured that they were in a

703
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 1: really good spot offensively, and it did bog down, but

704
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: it gave him a huge lift at that point in

705
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah, there's no doubt about it. And you know,

706
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: when you look at it from that standpoint, I mean,

707
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: you know, the Cardinals, it just seemed like there were

708
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: so many games that if they would have had a

709
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: turnover here and there, probably the record would have been

710
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: a little bit different. But I gotta think you know,

711
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: they work on that in practice, and it's to me,

712
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: it's based on down and distance, what you see and

713
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: you make the call and you're like, Okay, is he

714
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,919
Speaker 1: gonna throw a nice little spiral and this is gutta

715
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: gonna catch it? Because that to me, they're not normally

716
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: used to doing it. But clearly they worked on it.

717
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: I love to see some of the video how the

718
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: passes were in practice is because I mean, it was

719
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: money and you could tell they worked on it. And again,

720
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: it was a great point in the game to do that.

721
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 1: You know, But yeah, I'm I'm I'm big Jeff Rogers

722
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: fan because I just know that. You know, we don't

723
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 1: talk about special teams enough and when things are going bad,

724
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: that's the first thing we talked about. And then when

725
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 1: you see plays like this that actually change games around that.

726
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: That really shows how much detail they do. And I

727
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: think he's got to say you know, I know it

728
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: comes down to Steve Encliffe, but I think he's got

729
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 1: a little say on some of the back of the

730
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: roster who he wants to be on special teams. We'll

731
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: be interesting to see how much say he has because

732
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: you look at special teams. You've got Andy Lee, Zane Gonzalez,

733
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: Mike Nugent all unrestricted free agents, Dennis Gardak Trench, Jerfield,

734
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: Zekiel Turner all restricted free agents. That is your special

735
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: teams unit right there, those six players. Yeah, and you

736
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: know the thing is a couple are restricted, and you know,

737
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: I sure Fields really is more designator designed to be

738
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Speaker 1: a special teams player. But you know, Andy Lee's getting

739
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: up there in hum. You know, he was in the

740
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: same draft class as Larry Fitzgerald Bolt went to pitt

741
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: That's how long he's been in the league. You know,

742
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: he's he's been consistent, but sometimes you want to get

743
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: a younger guy in there, and sometimes a love foot

744
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,240
Speaker 1: of punter where the ball's coming off a little bit different.

745
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: Aaron Brewery's been steady, Eddie. So I mean, you know

746
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: those guys could play for a long time, and I

747
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: think Nuji's age may you know, preclude him from being

748
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: a long term answer. I know they like Zane, but

749
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: you know, we got to find out what's between the

750
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: years because he's you know, if this team is going

751
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: to be in close games, you have to make those kicks.

752
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: So let's go over the top five special teams plays

753
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty. The Kylie Fits kick fumble at the Giants,

754
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: Zeke Turner block punt against the Eagles, Zane Gonzalez game

755
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: winning field goal against the Seahawks, Zeke Turner block punt

756
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: against the forty nine Ers, and the number one play,

757
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 1: Andy Lee to Zeke Turner the fake punt pass against

758
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: the Eagles, a game the Cardinals would end up winning.

759
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: By the way, Andy Lee two of two for fifty

760
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: two yards in his Cardinal's career throwing the football. So

761
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: we talk about the emergency quarterback. Sorry, Patrick Peterson, where

762
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: I'm going with Andy Lee? Who is perfect as far

763
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: as pleation percentage when he wears that Cardinals uniform. Yeah,

764
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: that throw of Faraoll Cooper last season was a really

765
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 1: nice play, and that that was a more intricate fake

766
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: punt where they handed it off a couple of times,

767
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 1: pitched it back and then he threw it and Pararell

768
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 1: Cooper made a nice catch. But they, I mean, they've

769
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 1: been aggressive on fake punts and I don't think they've

770
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: failed yet. They had that one Chase Edmonds ran for

771
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: one against the Steelers, and then they had this one

772
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 1: this year against the Eagles. So, like you said, Mike,

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Speaker 1: I think Jeff Rogers is one of the better special

774
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: teams coaches in the NFL. I agree. Good stuff, Kyle.

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Speaker 1: Next show, we'll talk about the top five plays on

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784
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 1: talk playoffs, specifically divisional round and what's ahead this weekend

785
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: as the Cardinals will be watching like everyone else, but

786
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: they'll be watching the Rams kick things off on Saturday

787
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 1: as the Rams, the sixth seed, will visit the Green

788
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: Bay Packers two thirty five on Fox. That will kick

789
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 1: things off on Saturday. The first of it will be

790
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: two games and then the first of four games total

791
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: over two days. Well, it looks like Jerikoff's gonna start,

792
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: and he's been the starter pretty much the entire season.

793
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: He has been and you know, we'll see, hopefully for

794
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: his sake, that thumb is getting better. I mean, he

795
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: does have pins in there, and I gotta think, Craig,

796
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: they're gonna try to run the football. I know it's

797
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: easier said than done because that other guy and the sidelines.

798
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 1: You know, he's the MVP for a reason. And it's

799
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: not just DeVante Adams. It's the running game, it's the

800
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: play calling, it's the execution. Now David Baktier's out, that's

801
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: a huge loss. So it's probably I don't know why

802
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: they didn't get more love there or more attention because

803
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 1: you're talking about a starting left tackle and according to

804
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus, he's been one of the best over

805
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: the last few years. And then they go out and

806
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: bring in Jared vel Deer and now he's on the

807
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: COVID list so he can't play. He played for the

808
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: Colts last week. This guy retired a few times. And

809
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: their defense, can they slow the Packers down? That's going

810
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: to be the issue. I don't know what the weather

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00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: is going to look like, but you're gonna get two

812
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: guys that are best friends, and Matt Lafleur and Sean

813
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 1: McVay they talk every week. This week they're backing off,

814
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: so I think they know each other what they want

815
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: to do. But I really I like the Packers in

816
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 1: this game. But you know, based on the Rams defense,

817
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: if they can slow them down, maybe it comes down

818
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: to a turnover. And you know golf is you know,

819
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 1: if a good pressure on him, he will throw one.

820
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 1: But he got robbed woods. They're using their tight ends.

821
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 1: They could go more twelve personnel to protect the edges

822
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: and fall asleep on this Packers defense. I think Mike

823
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: Patton's done a really good job there after Dom Capers

824
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: was there for a long long time. Mike Patton was

825
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: a former high high school coach and became the head

826
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Speaker 1: coach of the Cleveland Browns again. Better Lieutenant in General

827
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: so I think this is going to be a physical

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Speaker 1: game and we'll see. But I like the Packers, you know,

829
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 1: I just I don't know if they can slow him down.

830
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,240
Speaker 1: It's a great matchup as far as with the Rams

831
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: do best, and that is not allowing teams to score.

832
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: They are the number one scoring defense, allowing eighteen point

833
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 1: five points per game, and no team is better scoring

834
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Speaker 1: points than the Green Bay Packers thirty one point eight.

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Speaker 1: Yet the matchup that I'm excited about outside of Aaron Donald,

836
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: and even though he's not quite one hundred percent, he

837
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: says he's fine, he'll be good to go despite some

838
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 1: sore ribs. With Jalen Ramsey and DeVante Adams, that matchup

839
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Speaker 1: as excited as I was to see Amsey and Deyander Hopkins. Adams,

840
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: as we've talked about here before, doesn't get a lot

841
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: of the attention as a Hopkins does or Julio Jones,

842
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: yet he is certainly someone that the Packers rely on.

843
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: And I would guess that Ramsey will shadow Adams maybe

844
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 1: nine ninety five percent of the time on Saturday. Oh,

845
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: there's no doubt. And that's a great match and I'm

846
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: glad you brought it up when you when you look

847
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 1: at the matchup itself, there's numbers out there, Adams eighteen touchdowns,

848
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: Cup and Woods to combine eleven touchdowns, and we know

849
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: how potent neck could be in that slop position, and

850
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: they do move Adams around, but he is also a

851
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: lot of times on the outside because they can run

852
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 1: a post route, they can run a you know, um,

853
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: he's Aaron can make this row from the opposite hashmark

854
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: across the field. So yeah, that's going to be interesting.

855
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: And again I agree with you, Um, that's what's the playoffs.

856
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:00,959
Speaker 1: When you get to the point you take your number

857
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: one corner and you put them on the number one

858
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: wide receiver and Adams to me, we always talk about Julio,

859
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 1: Mike Thomas, to Hop, there's some other guys that should

860
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: be in that same conversation. I noticed when Pro Football

861
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: Focus ranked their wide receivers, Hop was ranked seventh overall.

862
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: Seventh overall, and we know the numbers, maybe the lack

863
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: of touchdowns only had six. We're talking about Adams eighteen touchdowns,

864
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: so but yeah, I get that. Now. The thing is, though,

865
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: it's interesting, and we'll get it into the Browns game

866
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 1: early game on Sunday, two six seeds, the Rams and

867
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: the Browns. Now, the six seeds have reached the conference

868
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: championship game Tennessee, Green Bay, Jets, Baltimore, Philadelphia, and Pittsburgh,

869
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: and a few of those teams went on to win

870
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl Green Bay in two ten in Pittsburgh

871
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: in two thousand and five. So the Cardinals were a

872
00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:02,240
Speaker 1: four seed when they went to the Super Bowl, and

873
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: you know, and they had to play on the road

874
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: pretty much every week. They didn't unless they got to

875
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: the conference championship games. So it looks like, you know,

876
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: if one or two seeds don't lose, well the Rams

877
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: would be out then if they lose. But in interesting

878
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 1: that you could see another one of the two six

879
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: seeds playing in the next round. Now clearly on paper

880
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: they're not favorites, no, but I certainly could see the

881
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 1: Rams pull in an upset on Saturday at the Packers.

882
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 1: And again that's the game first on Saturday, and that

883
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: will be followed by Ravens at Bills. Baltimore. The five

884
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 1: seed Buffalo the two seeds six fifteen is the kickoff

885
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: on NBC. Baltimore's won six in a row, Buffalo seven

886
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: in a row, But everyone's going to be focused on

887
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: the two quarterbacks, Lamar Jackson Josh Allen, two of the

888
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 1: top quarterbacks to come at a twenty eighteen draft class.

889
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: Jackson at number thirty two, Allen number seven. And I

890
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: know you're a little bit biased in this matchup, so

891
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: I'll agree with you. I think the Bills win this contest.

892
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: This is in broadcast in western New York, is it?

893
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 1: Are you gonna Are you gonna do a one eighty

894
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: on me here? Well, I mean you're asking me to

895
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: pick the game. I like the Ravens in this game. Wow.

896
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 1: Even though forecast calls for snow or Saturday nights in Buffalo,

897
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson admitted he has never played in that

898
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: kind of weather, so that is also something to pay

899
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: attention to. True, and the Bills will have, you know,

900
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: fans there, and even though it's you know, a whole

901
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: sixty or sixty five thousand, you could still hear them

902
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: and listen. Now if you want to go back to

903
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: games in Baltimore, they've had major downpours and Roman mentioned

904
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: earlier in the week that you know, I'd rather play

905
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: in snow than pouring down rain, because you know, does

906
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: the offense have an advantage or the defense because the

907
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 1: offense knows where they're going, the defense has got a

908
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: back pedal. So now I like the way the Ravens

909
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 1: are playing. Um I think Josh Allen definitely is worthy

910
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: of it, you know, being in the MVP conversation like

911
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: Lamar was when he won it. I think the Bills

912
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 1: are you know, they've been building for something and you

913
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: know we'll see. I guess I'm as saying can they

914
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: win another playoff game? Because now you're getting down to

915
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: the nitty gritty and on paper, you would think they

916
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: would face the Chiefs in the AFC Championship game. But

917
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 1: for some reason, I like the Ravens in this game,

918
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: and I don't know if the Ravens defense gets enough credit.

919
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: All right, well, we'll have to wait and see. If

920
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: Mike Drek he loses this one, he might not be

921
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: allowed back home to Western New York. But we'll have

922
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: to see about that here. Okay, I'm rory for the Bills,

923
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: but I'm picking the Ravens. How's that all right? Fair enough? Again? Saturday,

924
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: the two games up first Rams at Packers, followed by

925
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: Ravens at Bills. Now speaking of that, and it's been

926
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: talked about all week. All four starting quarterbacks remaining in

927
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: the ESC are under the age of twenty six, the

928
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,439
Speaker 1: first time ever that all four starting quarterbacks in one

929
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: conference and divisions are under the age of twenty six.

930
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's twenty four, Lamar Jackson's twenty four, Patrick Mahomes

931
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 1: twenty five, and Baker Meatfield twenty five. What you're going

932
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: to get into those games coming up here? Now, the

933
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: flip side of all that is over on the NFC,

934
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,439
Speaker 1: you had Tom Brady, Drew Brees, and Aaron Rodgers. They've

935
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: combined for eight Super Bowl victories. Of course Brady has

936
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: six of those, so he had young guard and the

937
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: old guard and we'll see what happens. But the other

938
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: matchup out of the AFC, you brought up Baker Mayfield

939
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: the Browns, the six seed. This is on Sunday now,

940
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: burd Gang Browns at Chiefs one oh five pm on CBS.

941
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: And the big question is can Cleveland continue this run?

942
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: Of course standing in their way is the defending Super

943
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 1: Bowl champions. Yeah, and you know a lot of people

944
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: are going to look at you know, the Chiefs. I

945
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: think they're they won six games with one score or less.

946
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,720
Speaker 1: They haven't blown teams out. You know, I think Tony

947
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 1: Dungee had the recipe where you got to try to

948
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: keep him in the pocket. We know that, you know

949
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: with the can run the ball. They got a really

950
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,760
Speaker 1: good offensive line, they got guys that can stretch the field.

951
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: They got a great tight end in Travis Kelsey, Um Cleveland.

952
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: It's a great story. They're gonna run the football. Just

953
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: we were talking about with the Rams. They got a

954
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: probably the one best one two punch in football with

955
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: you know, Nick Chubb and Kaream Hunt. And they're gonna

956
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: get Joe Antonio back. Kevinist the fantasy's gonna get back there.

957
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 1: Um their defense. You know, Miles Garrett is worthy a

958
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 1: pick in the first pick in the draft, so again,

959
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 1: can they slow him down? I don't think both teams

960
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: play in cold weather, so that shouldn't be a factor. Now,

961
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,399
Speaker 1: it's a big spot for Baker Mayfield and he's he's

962
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: played in big games now towards the end of the season,

963
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: even though they did lose in Week seventeen. Um. But

964
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: I like the Chiefs in this game. I just think

965
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 1: they're they're they've been battle tested. It's really the first

966
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: time the Browns in a long time. And give them

967
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 1: credit because I don't think they're gonna, you know, being

968
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: a drought for a long time. Yere. I think they

969
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: make the Pols season again next year. Obviously, when teams win,

970
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: you lose free agents and stuff like that because other

971
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: teams want those players. But I like to Chiefs in

972
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: this game against the Browns, I do too. I just

973
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: think they've got too much firepower. Despite the fact that

974
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: this note, Patrick Mahomes will have gone twenty days between games.

975
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: They did not play obviously in the first round, and

976
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: then he sat in week seventeen. As most teams do.

977
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 1: They rest their starters when they know their seating is secure.

978
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: So is there going to be rust Who knows. But again,

979
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: that game kicks off at one oh five, and then

980
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: the second game of the double header on Sunday, the

981
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: fourth and final game. Everyone really looking forward to this

982
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: because we get Brady and Breeze Part three. Buccaneers at

983
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: the Saints four forty on Fox Now. New Orleans beat

984
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay twice in the regular season, can they beat

985
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: him a third time? And it's always difficult for a

986
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: third time and I'll say this the Buccaneers, they've been

987
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 1: playing very, very well since they last lost their ball game,

988
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: and the offense has turned it around as well. No

989
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:08,759
Speaker 1: more talking about Bruce Arians and Tom Brady not getting along. Yeah, precisely. Yeah. Now,

990
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: Arians has been doing interviews this week and he basically said,

991
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: you know, when you played a Division game, and he's

992
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: been there two years now, you're familiar with your opponent.

993
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: But he thinks things got out of hand early in

994
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: that game with penalties, and so he says, you know,

995
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: Lattimore is going to cover Mike Evans, we know that matchup.

996
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin is getting better. Um, he had the finger

997
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: injury and he was on covid. Um, Ronald Jones, they

998
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: call Rojoe there. He's probably gonna be your feature back.

999
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: They've been rolling with Leonard Fournette. We know Gronks part

1000
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: of that. So and Scotty Miller's kind of like Andy Isabella,

1001
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: but he's plays more. He's got he got to top

1002
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: off the defense. Um, I just I just feel the scenes.

1003
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: They've been knocking on the draw and you know, controversial

1004
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 1: call and this is going to be for Drew Brees

1005
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: and you know Brady is still going to play next year.

1006
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: M I kind of like the Buck in this game,

1007
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: but I think it's going to be a tight game.

1008
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be a blowout. And again,

1009
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: I think both teams can put up points based on

1010
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 1: their offense and their play calling. But I like the

1011
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: Bucks in this game just from a standpoint of Todd

1012
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 1: Bowls in his defense. I think they can slow him down.

1013
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: I don't think they can shut them down, but I

1014
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 1: think they can slow him down. So I'm gonna go

1015
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: with the Bucks. But I wouldn't be surprised at the

1016
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: Saints win. Well, the Buccaneers looked better a week ago

1017
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: in their win even though it was a bit of

1018
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: a struggle against Washington and the Saints. They didn't really

1019
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: pull away from the Bears until the second half. So momentum,

1020
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: if you will. With apologies to our guest earlier in

1021
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: the show, colleuer Guard, I do like where Tampa Bay

1022
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: is right now. Well, some people think this is the

1023
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,319
Speaker 1: best weeken in football because now you know, we got

1024
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: we got four games and then they got two games

1025
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 1: in one game, so seven games left in the season,

1026
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: and you know, usually the cream rises to the top

1027
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: but I'll say this though, I mean, when you get

1028
00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: to this point, just look at the quarterbacks and the

1029
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: head coaches combination. Yes, Matt Lafleur walked into a good

1030
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: situation arians moving on from Jammes Winston and get Tom Brady.

1031
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: But the other guys, they've been in the same system

1032
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: for a couple of years. Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, and

1033
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: I think there's a reason why when you look at

1034
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: these teams, that's why they're playing in the postseason. Eight

1035
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: teams remain. At the end of this weekend, we'll be

1036
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: down to four. And on that note, we will put

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00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two, presented

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Speaker 1: by Hunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Once again

1039
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 1: thanks to our colleague kyleod Regard joining us to talk

1040
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:39,760
Speaker 1: about the top five plays on defense and special teams.

1041
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: Next show, we'll bring Kyle back to talk about the

1042
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: top five plays on offense. Also as always special thanks

1043
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 1: to our executive producer Jim Momahundro or Mike Jarecki. I'm

1044
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: preg Riel, Luke. We'll talk to you next time you're

1045
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 1: on Cardinals Cover two.