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Speaker 1: Twenty twenty three season has come to an end following

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Speaker 1: a twenty one twenty loss to the Seahawks. Arizona finishes

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Speaker 1: with a four and thirteen record. We're gonna break down

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Speaker 1: the season finale in the season as a whole right

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Speaker 1: here on Morning Scramble presented by Verizon from the Sea

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Speaker 1: Geek Studios alongside Jody Jackson and Zach Gershman. I'm Danny Sirek.

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Speaker 1: Final play of the game a Cardinals wide right fifty

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Speaker 1: one yard field goal. You win and lose on more

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Speaker 1: than one play. Offensively, a slow start for the Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: getting stalled in the red zone with incomplete passes, miss

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Speaker 1: blocks and penalties. However, in the second half turned it

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Speaker 1: around and kept themselves in the game, making it a

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Speaker 1: close one. Jody, week after week we continue to see

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Speaker 1: this Cardinals team refuses to go down without a fight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's really incredible and you wouldn't you know.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Matt Prater, who's money all, you know, one

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Speaker 2: expect that. But to me, this was really not about

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Speaker 2: what Danny mentioned, the fight of this team, the offense

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Speaker 2: again piling up four hundred.

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Speaker 3: And sixty six yards.

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Speaker 2: Last week we talked about how amazing it was that

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Speaker 2: in this game, and further cemented to me, guys, just

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Speaker 2: this defense has a lot of holes, particularly on the

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Speaker 3: So if people are running free.

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Speaker 2: On the back end, it's probably because the quarterback is

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Speaker 2: which you think would be I'm not saying an easy fix,

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Speaker 2: but you can find personnel to do that. How much

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Speaker 2: better is this team on defense? But offensively again proving

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Speaker 2: Zach that a lot of the pieces are here. I mean,

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Speaker 4: The offense has the potential to do that, and I

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Speaker 4: of the ball, there was that Tyer Lockett big time

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Speaker 4: and a lot of those times. When it was asked

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Speaker 4: to Jonathan Gannon post game, he said, play extension. That's

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Speaker 4: what hurts you against the Chicago Bears. That's what you

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Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts still hurts you in a lot of different

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Speaker 4: ways through play extension. That's something that as the offseason

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Speaker 4: of emphasis that they're gonna be looking at the pieces

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Speaker 1: Usually potential when talked about teams around the league, you

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Speaker 1: don't want to hold on to potential. You want to

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Speaker 1: and what we've seen from this team, really with this

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Speaker 2: Kyler Murray has that freak ability when you're that fast.

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Speaker 2: sure it wasn't perfect on Sunday, but this is a

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Speaker 4: Going on the thirty three yard run, I believe you

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Speaker 1: It's so casual when when Murray has the ball and

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Speaker 4: It's it's ridiculous. And that speed is something that Michael

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Speaker 4: I think that. Somebody asked k one afterwards, do you

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Speaker 1: Using it to his advantage. Murray's touchdown pass, an eight

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Speaker 3: I believe it now now.

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Speaker 1: I can see I actually believe it could be one hundreds.

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Speaker 4: Now I could see it, especially because he said he's

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Speaker 4: Seattle brought their unit out, the Cardinals brought their unit out.

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Speaker 4: It just so happened to be that Matt Prater and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know there's a reason Jeff Rodgers has

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Speaker 3: And so you love to see it.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure there are when you say hundreds, I mean,

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Speaker 4: We've talked about his progression all year long to cap

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Speaker 1: We saw a little trickery Sunday and a whole lot

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Speaker 2: And it is too because the involvement of the quarterback

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Speaker 3: But you know, it isn't impressive.

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Speaker 2: I think what Kyler's done as a leader and that's

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Speaker 1: Sunday's game was the third time in the last four

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Speaker 4: Can you imagine if he played every single game this

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Speaker 4: He is that Michael Wilson. I know, we keep going

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Speaker 2: And he talked about it after the game. He looks

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Speaker 3: Guys, what is he twenty eight, twenty.

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Speaker 3: He's a pro bowler. You know, I don't purf he

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of Pro Bowlers that missed some games

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Speaker 3: Again, the fact that he's.

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Speaker 1: If I had a nickel for every defender James Connor

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Speaker 1: It's very impressive the way he plays the games.

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Speaker 4: He's so dominant. But and we talk about it just

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Speaker 4: kudos to Yelda.

436
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Speaker 1: An impressive year by Connor and the offensive line. Cardinals

437
00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,960
Speaker 1: defense did enough Sunday against the Seahawks. They held run

438
00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,240
Speaker 1: back Kenneth Walker just seventy eight rushing yards and entering

439
00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:07,159
Speaker 1: Sunday's game wide receiver dk Metcalf eighty percent of his

440
00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:11,159
Speaker 1: catches resulted in a first down or touchdown against the Cardinals,

441
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Speaker 1: one catch for ten yards you want to talk about injuries, well,

442
00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:17,720
Speaker 1: Sunday's game for the starting defensive line was a great

443
00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,720
Speaker 1: look into it. All three starters, not a single one

444
00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,280
Speaker 1: of them were here when the season started.

445
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Speaker 2: Jody, It's really unbelievable when you think about it. You

446
00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,760
Speaker 2: had Nakwon Jones, you had Phil Hoskins out there, you

447
00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:32,560
Speaker 2: had blanking on Roy Lopez, who was a great addition

448
00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,600
Speaker 2: to this team. Kind of a cool story too, being

449
00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,119
Speaker 2: having the local ties. So boy, the D line was

450
00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,000
Speaker 2: more banged up than any position. We sat here week

451
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Speaker 2: one and just talking about what a shame that Carlos

452
00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,960
Speaker 2: Watkins and LJ. Collery, those guys weren't going to be

453
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,679
Speaker 2: able to be out there. And then the hits kept coming.

454
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Speaker 2: I mean, Lecky Fotu was injured for a chunk of

455
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Speaker 2: the season, and Jonathan Ledbetter went down. I'm definitely missing

456
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Speaker 2: a few. Kevin Strong Junior was not part of this

457
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Speaker 2: final game for the Cardinals, even though he had a

458
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:01,000
Speaker 2: pretty good season.

459
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Speaker 3: So we'll see what happens in the future there. But again,

460
00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,320
Speaker 3: that's that's just an area that if they.

461
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Speaker 2: Improve that line just I don't know if you want

462
00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 2: to take a percentage right twenty thirty. It's going to

463
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,159
Speaker 2: make a huge difference for this team. But I will say,

464
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 2: you know, like Danny mentioned, they hung in there. They

465
00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,399
Speaker 2: really hung in there. They played, they tried to do

466
00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,119
Speaker 2: their job. They weren't trying to do more than that.

467
00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 2: And credit to the coaches for coaching up these guys.

468
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Speaker 4: The defensive line had a lot of good role players.

469
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Speaker 4: There weren't as many big time names on that defensive

470
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Speaker 4: line that are going to be able to impact the quarterback,

471
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Speaker 4: but they held their own, especially going against some of

472
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Speaker 4: these offenses. When you go against the San Francisco and

473
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Speaker 4: a Los Angeles Rams offense, two very fast moving, high

474
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:48,399
Speaker 4: dynamic offenses, especially with those O lines, it's not easy.

475
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Speaker 4: And somebody else, Donny.

476
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Speaker 3: At times it was I didn't mention that.

477
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Dante Stills, I mean, being the rookie coming in

478
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Speaker 4: as a six round pick, not even sure if you're

479
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Speaker 4: going to be able to make the roster, and to

480
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:00,920
Speaker 4: come in and put up the numbers in the way

481
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,720
Speaker 4: that he did was truly remarkable. And it's a shame

482
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 4: that Dante wasn't able to play in that last game,

483
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,159
Speaker 4: got placed on IR two and knee injury. I believe

484
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 4: so Unfortunately, that's that's how it ended for him. But

485
00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 4: to start the season, he didn't play Week one, he

486
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,880
Speaker 4: started Week two, he was a healthy scratch week one.

487
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 4: For him to come into that defensive line and truly

488
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Speaker 4: make a name for himself as a six round rookie,

489
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Speaker 4: it's kind of impressive.

490
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Speaker 1: Impressive, not just by still is this entire rookie class.

491
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Speaker 1: The way that the Cardinals had to rely on them

492
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Speaker 1: through adversity, very impressive for that rookie class this year.

493
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Speaker 1: Let's pull out the whiteboards for our players of the game,

494
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Speaker 1: all right, last one of the season. Yeah, sad, still

495
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Speaker 1: my last drawing of the season, which is not sad.

496
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Speaker 1: Very glad about that.

497
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Speaker 4: I'm now even more sad.

498
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Speaker 2: I love how we've had a lot of options though

499
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 2: even in you know, even in some of these defeats,

500
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 2: you know, it's been close. There's been a lot of

501
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 2: guys that have had really good games, could have easily

502
00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 2: been a.

503
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Speaker 3: Windy player of the game.

504
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Speaker 2: Kind of talked about him already. I'm going with Michael

505
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 2: Wilson again. This was pretty much a breakout game for

506
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,919
Speaker 2: him yardage wise, six for ninety five yards and certainly

507
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 2: the first time he and Kyler Murray have really had,

508
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 2: you know, a rhythm going. And the other thing that

509
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 2: I really loved about what we saw with Michael Wilson

510
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,160
Speaker 2: was you know, you saw how he can break tackles.

511
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:21,879
Speaker 2: You know, we talked about Trey McBride a lot, and

512
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 2: he's a big tight end and you see how strong

513
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 2: he is.

514
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 3: And he doesn't go down easily.

515
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's a trait that Michael Wilson I think

516
00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 2: can really feed off of if he can prove it.

517
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 2: And this has been a couple of weeks of trying

518
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 2: to prove himself coming off the injury. I think we

519
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 2: saw some good early for Michael Wilson and we definitely

520
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 2: saw some good late in these last couple of games.

521
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 2: A big part of that win against the Eagles with

522
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 2: a two point conversion and the touchdown catch and easily.

523
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,679
Speaker 2: Again we kind of keep going back, that could have

524
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 2: been a win to end the season. It wasn't just

525
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Speaker 2: a one point lost, but Michael Wilson was a big

526
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Speaker 2: part of that being the leading receiver.

527
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Speaker 4: So I went with the guy who has to be

528
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Speaker 4: singing him the pill, and it's going to be Kyler Murray.

529
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 4: Kyler Murray. We've talked. We've talked extensively already about K one,

530
00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 4: so it's not really needed to get too much into it.

531
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 4: The twenty two for thirty for two hundred and sixty

532
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,880
Speaker 4: two yards really solid performance from K one. But one

533
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 4: of my favorite moments I think was when that late

534
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 4: hit happened. To see Kyler Murray pop up in the

535
00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,159
Speaker 4: way that he did. I think that there was an

536
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 4: audible gasp around the stadium. So for him to pop

537
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 4: up in that moment he wasn't, but for him to

538
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,439
Speaker 4: step out for the one player that he was required

539
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 4: to step out for, and to jog right back out

540
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 4: and to get the applause that I believe he deserved

541
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Speaker 4: to do that. I mean, Kyler Murray has done a

542
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,200
Speaker 4: great job coming into this offense. He hasn't skipped the beat.

543
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 4: The offense wasn't doing the best when it was with

544
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 4: Josh Dobbs and Clayton Tune. Obviously you're still learning and

545
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 4: Drew Petsing offense, But Kyler Murray, I think has shown

546
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Speaker 4: why he's not just the player of the game, but

547
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 4: why he's truly a foundation for this team.

548
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Speaker 1: I struck with offense. I didn't even write a name

549
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,119
Speaker 1: this is a crown who could that be? Every week?

550
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: My player of the game is King James. James Connor

551
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: just an incredible piece for this offense, for this team.

552
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 1: Connor hitting that incredible thousand yard miles done, He finished

553
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 1: the game with more than two hundred all purpose yards,

554
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 1: a career best one hundred and fifty rushing yards. Not

555
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 1: only is Connor a staple in the run game, the

556
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 1: way he is as a receiver and how reliable he

557
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: is there makes him a piece that this organization should

558
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: use moving forward when you're trying to build around your

559
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,199
Speaker 1: key players. To me, one of those key players is

560
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Speaker 1: James Connor. Incredibly impressive.

561
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Speaker 4: The type of I mean, we keep going back to it,

562
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 4: the blueprint of what you want a player to be.

563
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Speaker 4: And I think you could see how grateful he was

564
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 4: postgame once he did hit that thousand yard marks. We

565
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,160
Speaker 4: spoke to him after San Francisco and they had over

566
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 4: two hundred yards rushing, two hundred and thirty four. He

567
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 4: wasn't happy with it because it didn't result into a win,

568
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 4: and he wasn't happy with the loss yesterday either. But

569
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Speaker 4: I think it's one of those games where you could

570
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,360
Speaker 4: allow yourself to self reflect and take in the accomplishment,

571
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 4: something he has not been able to achieve in his career.

572
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Speaker 2: So Congress, by the way, best drawing of the year.

573
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Speaker 2: I mean, I can't wait for next year for Danny's drawing.

574
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Speaker 1: The whole season. Thank you.

575
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Speaker 4: I've got.

576
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: The Gardinal's four wins season. This year feels absolutely nothing

577
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: like last year's four win season. This organization is trending

578
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: upwards with a true team first mentality. Postgame, head coach

579
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Speaker 1: Johnathan Gannon said he has never been more enthused for

580
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: an offseason in his career, knowing how competitive and smart

581
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 1: his team can be. Jody, what good are you taking

582
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: away from this season?

583
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,639
Speaker 2: Well, that was a lot of telling statements after the game.

584
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 2: I mean you mentioned Gannon already thinking about next year.

585
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 2: I mean, let's face it, four and thirteen and a

586
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 2: long season in the NFL.

587
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 3: It's tiring, it's.

588
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 2: Hard, it's difficult, the hours are long, and it's a grind.

589
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 2: And yet these guys had a smile on their face.

590
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:01,479
Speaker 2: And Kyler Murray saying that he has been fresh. That

591
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 2: was awesome to hear because that's what you see with him.

592
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 2: The other thing that stood out was Jonathan Gannon talking

593
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 2: about Kyler's intangibles and guys were a couple of years

594
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 2: removed from you would not have thought of that as

595
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 2: one of We talked a lot about Kyler when he

596
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 2: was drafted, about you know, the skills, the running, the

597
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 2: great arm, the ability that he was a winner. He's

598
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 2: always been a winner wherever he's gone. And for Jonathan

599
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: Gannon to talk about how his intangibles or why he's excited,

600
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Speaker 2: that tells you a lot about the evolution of Kyler Murray.

601
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 2: And so I was really listening to some of those

602
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 2: words postgame and again for a four.

603
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Speaker 3: And thirteen team.

604
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 2: It is also, as Jonathan Gannon said, it's rare to

605
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 2: feel this way now. Believe me, they'll need their break,

606
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 2: they'll need their rest, as will all of you because

607
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,199
Speaker 2: you know, again, it is a long football season. But

608
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 2: I think everyone feels a little bit energized already for

609
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 2: next year.

610
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 1: It is telling when your franchise quarterback is saying it's

611
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: refreshing going into the off season with hope, with trust

612
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: from the coaching staff, from the front office, and that

613
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: the higher upsach are forcing accountability. That says a lot

614
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: from your quarterback.

615
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 4: Exactly because it's no longer just your star players holding

616
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 4: the other players accountable. It's everybody. It's all fifty three

617
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 4: in that locker room holding each other accountable. Knowing what

618
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 4: this team could be and the four to win season

619
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 4: clearly isn't what you shoot for. It's not what you

620
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 4: strive for. You strive to win super Bowls and win

621
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 4: divisional championships. That that that might not have been the

622
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 4: I don't want to say the intention going into the season,

623
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,880
Speaker 4: because that's what everybody intends to do once you play

624
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 4: in the NFL. But this team is not. They're satisfied

625
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 4: with how they progress as the season has gone on

626
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 4: because of the optimism and hope. For Kyler Murray to

627
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 4: say that this is one of his favorite teams that

628
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 4: he's been a part of, and for so many other

629
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 4: players in that locker room to say, yeah, we agree

630
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 4: with him, truly shows that a culture shift, it is

631
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 4: a complete one eighty. It's not just that that it's

632
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 4: not just that shift. That's that shock, as DJ said

633
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 4: during training camp, and you've seen it on display and

634
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 4: in so many cases people talk about it, but to

635
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 4: actually see it, because you see in the fight when

636
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,880
Speaker 4: you're down and when you're down to Chicago down twenty

637
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 4: one points, when you're down twenty one six in Philadelphia,

638
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 4: when you're down twenty one point, when you're down by

639
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 4: twenty one I believe it was twenty one three twenty

640
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 4: one six here as well against the Seahawks. When you

641
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 4: have that, it's very easy to lay down and to

642
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 4: give up. But the fight that this team has truly

643
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 4: shows that the accountability does start up top, but it

644
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 4: also extends through out the entire lockera.

645
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 2: And I think handling adversity is something too that you know,

646
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 2: you saw this coach. It has to be the coaching

647
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 2: staff leading with that, and they did.

648
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 3: It very well.

649
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 2: I mean, if there was anything any kind of discord

650
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: going on, you know, you never you never saw, and

651
00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,680
Speaker 2: I think it was because it must have been nipped

652
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 2: in the bud.

653
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.

654
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 2: I mean, there were there were situations, and there were

655
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: players that were released and maybe that weren't fitting in

656
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 2: and that weren't keeping that in a positive light.

657
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,719
Speaker 3: You know, everything that was going on behind the scenes.

658
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 2: When you're losing, you can still have a positive culture,

659
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: you can still have a good culture, and that's what

660
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: we learned about this team.

661
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 3: This year.

662
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 4: Well one thing also, drop security is a very big

663
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 4: component in the NFL. I mean Mark Wilson was released

664
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 4: and Marco Wilson up until midway through the season, played

665
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 4: every single snap as your starting cornerback. When you don't

666
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,959
Speaker 4: match the type of philosophy that they want to have

667
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 4: in this bock room, if you don't, then there's not

668
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 4: going to be a place. And I think that that's

669
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 4: something that has really stood out because you can't now

670
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 4: it's just a matter of finding the guys that fit

671
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 4: the mold but also have the talent to win you

672
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 4: some NFL football game.

673
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,959
Speaker 1: No question, Kyler fits the mold and is the quarterback

674
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: for the future for this organization. The intangibles you were

675
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: talking about, Jody, the leadership was on display this year.

676
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: Incredibly impressive for Murray to come off that ACL injury,

677
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: play eight games and a new offense with a new

678
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, new players on this team, and create the

679
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: type of chemistry and the type of culture out on

680
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: the field that he did in such a short amount

681
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: of time. Kyler was changing his footwork, he was learning

682
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: the new ways to communicate with this offense and did

683
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: so in a way where he was calm and collected

684
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: on the field on the sideline leading his team to success.

685
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: Very impressive what Kyler Murray was able to do with

686
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: half a season this year. Jody, when you're looking into

687
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 1: the off season, what parts of this offense does this

688
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: organization still need to add star power or depth?

689
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 3: Well, I look at wide receiver.

690
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 2: I think it's still an issue to have more depth there,

691
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 2: to have more you know, options there for sure, and

692
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 2: kind of a go to guy for Kyler who that

693
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 2: will be, you know, and you need more than one

694
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 2: but there. For me, with an elite quarterback, there's usually

695
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: one guy who who is always there on those gotta

696
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 2: have it plays. And Trey McBride is evolving as a

697
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 2: serious weapon, Michael Wilson, Greg Dort, So there are options,

698
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 2: no question. And James Connor, which is one thing you

699
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: love about James is that he's not just a running back.

700
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 2: He's a pretty complete back. He can catch the ball

701
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: one handed a couple of times we saw this season offensively,

702
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: I think they'll also, of course, you have to have

703
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 2: depth on that offensive line. With DJ Humphreys being out

704
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 2: for you know, a pretty big chunk I would imagine

705
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 2: of the season, you know, hopefully he's able to return

706
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 2: somewhere near the end of the season. But you're gonna

707
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: need to face you're out the plan there, whether it's

708
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: moving Paris over and getting to right tackle, or whether

709
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: it's getting someone else at left tackle that can do

710
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 2: that job.

711
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 3: You know, we'll see what happens there. I think, you know, gosh,

712
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 3: the tight end was such a productive position overall this year.

713
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 2: I think maybe it's just plug and play on that

714
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: or try to re up those guys in the tight

715
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 2: end room offensively.

716
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 3: You know.

717
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: Again, I think they're in a good spot. I think

718
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 2: defense is where the major overhalls to come. So the

719
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: offense has some pretty big weapons already.

720
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: When it comes to wide receivers, the decisions start with

721
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown, He's in a contract year, Zach and whether

722
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: or not the Cardinals want to re sign Brown, who

723
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: was dealing with the heel injury which ended up ending

724
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: his season early being placed on.

725
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 4: Ir Kyler said he would love to have Hollywood back.

726
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 4: Hollywood said he's had good conversations with Jag and Monty

727
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 4: All and that's not to indicate that things don't change

728
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 4: over time. When you're talking finances, a lot of different

729
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 4: things change and Hollywood Brown knowing that he's in a

730
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 4: contract year. Drew Therell mentioned that he knew he's in

731
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 4: a contract year and he won to put up the

732
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 4: type of numbers as you see on the screen there

733
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 4: the fifty one receptions for the five hundred and seventy

734
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 4: four yards, the four touchdowns, the four touchdowns all at

735
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 4: home as well. While all those are not the numbers

736
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 4: that Hollywood Brown would hope he has, he obviously wants

737
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 4: that yardage mark to go more touchdowns, more times in

738
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 4: the end zone, but the stuff that just creating play extension,

739
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 4: opening up the offense as well. He is a threat

740
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 4: on that outside. But you also do need a little

741
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 4: bit to go into what you might look for. You

742
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 4: need a bigger wide receiver. Michael Wilson being above six

743
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 4: foot and Zach Pascal being above six foot, those are

744
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 4: the only two wide receivers that truly have size. You

745
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 4: need to have somebody that's able to go up and

746
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 4: make a play. Trade McBride's able to do that, but

747
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 4: offensive and defenses rather are starting to learn how to

748
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 4: game plan against a guy like Trade McBride.

749
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 3: I wanted to mention on Hollywood though, and a lot.

750
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: I think it boils down to is it going to

751
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 2: work out financially right, because that's where it always stands

752
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: with free agents. But the interesting thing, and I'll say this,

753
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 2: watching the quarterback play throughout the NFL, and I've talked

754
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 2: about this a lot this.

755
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 3: Year, of course, we all wish it.

756
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: I mean, you wish it was better overall, whether it

757
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 2: was the injuries or just the lack of playmakers.

758
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 3: You know, think about if you're Hollywood Brown.

759
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: You also have to go with a place where you

760
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: know the quarterback is going to be productive.

761
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 3: And it helps that you know him.

762
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: He's a really good friend, and you know the head coach,

763
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 2: the culture and all of that.

764
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: So I think there's lots of survey there.

765
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 2: And I think this also speaks to you and why

766
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 2: I bring it up as any free agent, even ones

767
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: that maybe don't know Kyler or JG and Moni, it's just,

768
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 2: you know, when you're looking around the league right now,

769
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 2: you know there's some dysfunction in a lot of places.

770
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 3: There's a lack of a quarterback in a lot of places.

771
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: This is to me a pretty attractive place to be

772
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 2: for any free agent.

773
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: In my mind, when it comes to the offensive line

774
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: questions at left guard, where the Cardinals had four different

775
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 1: starters and had a revolving door throughout games trying to

776
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: get looks at different players, and left tackle starter Dj

777
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: Humphries tours acl so he's expected to miss some time.

778
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: Going into the twenty twenty fourth season, Arizona has three options.

779
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: Stay with Humphries as your starter, rely on veteran like

780
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: Calvin Beacham who stepped up until Humphries is able to

781
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: come back address that area, and free agency or draft

782
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: or rookie. Right tackle Paris Johnson Junior, who has experienced

783
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: playing on the left side, could possibly move to the left.

784
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: When I got a chance to ask Johnson that in

785
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: the locker room, he said, I'm going to go wherever

786
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: the team needs me. However, this offseason, I am going

787
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: to be practicing taking reps on both sides, left and right,

788
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:28,959
Speaker 1: just in case that's where my numbers called.

789
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 4: And he's We've talked a little bit in the locker room,

790
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 4: Paris and I about how it's really just a matter

791
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 4: of the footwork, and he's worked with Dj Humphries about

792
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 4: being able to go from right side to left side

793
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 4: of the line if needed. So to know that you

794
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 4: have that opportunity, and he did play on the left

795
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 4: side in college at left tackle. He also played a

796
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 4: little bit of guard. Paris Johnson Junior has just been

797
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 4: a freak. The fact that he hasn't missed a single

798
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 4: snap all season long truly just shows that why he

799
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 4: was worth that six overall pick. He's done a really

800
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 4: solid job and he's a part of that offensive line

801
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 4: crew that got James Connor his one thousand yards so

802
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 4: all pro P. As Hollywood Brown tweeted out, Paris Johnson

803
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 4: Junior has done really solid. If you do move them

804
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 4: over to the left side of the line, now you

805
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 4: have to figure out who you're going to take on

806
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 4: the right side of the line. Is that going to

807
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 4: be a Calvin Beacham or are you going back into

808
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 4: the draft and possibly bringing out an oh Fashionu or

809
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,919
Speaker 4: a Joe Alt from Notre Dame With that fourth overall pick.

810
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 4: You do have a lot of different options. It does

811
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 4: depend on what the teams above you end up doing.

812
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 4: But I think that the Cardinals as a whole, that

813
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 4: offensive line truly was kind of their secret strength throughout

814
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 4: this year. Losing DJ is a big loss, but he's

815
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 4: also somebody that you know who should be coming back

816
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 4: later on next season.

817
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 2: And as good as Paris has been, you know, he's

818
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 2: still young. He's a rookie, so he learned a ton

819
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 2: this year. He's got another year to get stronger even

820
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: and you know, just become more of that veteran guy

821
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,919
Speaker 2: which we know is so valuable on the offensive line.

822
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 2: But yeah, overall, this team has eleven draft picks, six

823
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,919
Speaker 2: of which are in the top three rounds. So there's

824
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: a lot that can be done. I know we're already

825
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: looking at months away, but we have all this time

826
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: to speculate and talk about it and size up all

827
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 2: the prospects. But a lot of maneuvering that can be

828
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: done and targeting those areas of need and it might

829
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 2: not be need as far as like I think at

830
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 2: wide receiver, everyone's looking for a little bit of a

831
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: superstar to come in, whether it's free agent or maybe

832
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 2: in Marvin Harrison junior.

833
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 3: If that plays out it at four.

834
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 2: But there's so many other positions that are important, including.

835
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: Backups options for the Cardinals, which means decisions to be

836
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 1: made by the Cardinals Zach defensively, which positions are the

837
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 1: most pressing to address.

838
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean unfortunately that that's an area that you know,

839
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 4: Johnathangan is a defensive mind. To head coach Nick Rolis

840
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 4: has done a really solid job putting out a good

841
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 4: game plan for the players that you do have. But

842
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 4: whether it's the edge rusher on or on that defensive line,

843
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 4: you need somebody that's going to be able to get

844
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 4: to the quarterback. Obviously, you have your guys in the

845
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 4: secondary and Buddha Baker Jalen Thompson both have been played

846
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 4: really solid throughout the season. Your cornerbacks, that's an area

847
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 4: that you're also going to need to address. In the draft.

848
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 4: You had a really solid pickup in key Trell Clark,

849
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 4: somebody that played a lot of snaps at the waiver wires,

850
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 4: Starling Thomas. You mentioned DK Metcalf staff stats. A large

851
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 4: part of that is because Starling Thomas, an undrafted rookie

852
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 4: out of UAB, was lining up against DK Metcalf and

853
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 4: he and he shut him down in this game. DK

854
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 4: truly was not an impact player at all. So there's

855
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 4: a lot of different areas. I think at a linebacker you're okay,

856
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,240
Speaker 4: but that edge rusher you have to try to find

857
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 4: somebody that's going to be able to get to the quarterback.

858
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

859
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll speak to the d line in general,

860
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: and you know, you'd love to have a big body

861
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 2: kind of plugging up the middle like we've seen here

862
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: in the past with Kaleis Campbell and Darnold Dockett. Go

863
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 2: on and on about a few guys that were able

864
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 2: to do that. But I agree, you got to get

865
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 2: to the quarterback. You have to really address to me

866
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 2: both the interior and the exterior sides of the defensive line.

867
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a ton of guys in the draft.

868
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 2: Whether they can come in and make an immediate impression,

869
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 2: I'm sure they also have a list of free agents

870
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 2: that they would like to bring in. And again they

871
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 2: have the cap space, they have draft picks, so it's

872
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 2: going to be interesting to see. You've got some intriguing

873
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 2: guys in the draft, like a Aaron Burst from Florida State.

874
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: No idea if he'll you know, wear that'll pan out

875
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 2: in the draft, but he's a guy I really like.

876
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 2: There's a number of them, and when we saw them

877
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 2: on display during the college football playoff and then of

878
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 2: course the big game coming up with with UH and

879
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 2: we're gonna see more tonight with Michigan.

880
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 3: And why am I blanking on the other team Washington? Washington? Yes,

881
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 3: of course I picked Washington. Why wouldn't Hu to.

882
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 1: Baker's going back, The question with building your defensive line

883
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: in the future is do the Cardinals have the pieces

884
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: they need moving forward? They were just unavailable this year

885
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: due to injury. LJ Collier, Carlos Watkins, Jonathan Ledbetter got

886
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: injured late in the season, tore his ACL, Lucky fo

887
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: to miss time on IR with a hand injury. Is

888
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: that an area where if those key players are healthy,

889
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: that is enough and then you can really look at

890
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,080
Speaker 1: building around your cornerbacks and your pass rush.

891
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 4: Of course, of course, and I'm looking here. I mean

892
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 4: Carlos Watkins in this one game that he played, he

893
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 4: did have a sack. I mean the fact that you

894
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 4: have pieces there, and I think that that's obviously at

895
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 4: the end of it, we're gonna look at the stats

896
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 4: and we're gonna say that defensive line room really took

897
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 4: a hit. Coach Derek LeBlanc did not really have as

898
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 4: many players to consistently coach because so many players were

899
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 4: coming in and out of that room. It's not as

900
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 4: much of an emphasis because you possibly do have the

901
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 4: players in that locker room, but I think it's that

902
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 4: pass rush as a whole. I looking at the stats here,

903
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 4: Dennis Gardeck with six sacks, b jo Jallari with four,

904
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 4: Victor d McCage four, Zaven Collins with three and a half,

905
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 4: and then you have Dante Stills with three and a

906
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 4: half and the rest are mostly defensive linemen. You have

907
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 4: players that were able to get back there. It's a

908
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 4: matter of putting them in the position. You can't just

909
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 4: have one side of the line that it's accounted for

910
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 4: on the other side not. You have to have them

911
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 4: both coming from both sides, and that defensive line, whether

912
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 4: it be that nose tackle that's able to get beyond

913
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 4: the center into the backfield, this.

914
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: Defense is missing a true star defender in which opposing

915
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: offenses Jody are going to have to account for.

916
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I agree that I think those guys are

917
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 2: nice role players, rotational players, but I think, you know,

918
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 2: it would be nice to add a guy that has

919
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 2: done in the league, a star player. We'll see what

920
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 2: happen happens if they were able to do that in

921
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: free agency. Of course, you know last year you did

922
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: have even though it was banged up. You had JJ Watt,

923
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 2: You had Zach Allen in the middle, who was becoming

924
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: kind of a guy that was you know, his name

925
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: was pretty well known.

926
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:12,240
Speaker 3: Throughout the league.

927
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 2: I think though the entire defense, you know, I think

928
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 2: of Jonathan Gannon and Nick Rowlis coming over from Philly

929
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 2: where they had seventy.

930
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 3: Sacks last year.

931
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 2: Part of that is just the functionality of the whole defense.

932
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 2: You know, you have to improve the back end. The

933
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 2: back end they had, as you mentioned, Marco was out,

934
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: Darling Thomas was picked up and thrown in there. I

935
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 2: mean it's been you know, Antonio Hamilton was kind of

936
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 2: a staple back there and did some good things. Jalen

937
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 2: and Buddha, you know what you have there, But you

938
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 2: have to strengthen the back end as well to be

939
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 2: able to have that pass rush and have it all

940
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: be It's gonna be a lot easier for Nick Rowlis

941
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 2: to dial up and scheme it up to get a

942
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 2: pass rush going. We saw it even yesterday a few times,

943
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 2: like guys not getting home, you know, we saw it

944
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 2: on the on the play when Sasseray almost got to

945
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 2: Geno Smith and then Gardik was kind of lost in coverage,

946
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 2: and I think Gardik might have thought that Sasaray was

947
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 2: gonna have Gino Smith on the ground.

948
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: Collins too, just like but what had a sack?

949
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, there were a lot of not quite getting home

950
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: and that's the biggest difference. If they can find guys

951
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 2: that can get home more consistently, that's gonna help this defense,

952
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,439
Speaker 2: big time defense.

953
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: As a whole area of emphasis for this offseason. Let's

954
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: sum up pretty well, right, let's pull out the whiteboards

955
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,760
Speaker 1: for the final time one morning scramble for songbirds.

956
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 3: Do you guys draw? You draw again?

957
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: No, you guys are done with my drawings. This Songbirds, though,

958
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: is not going to be just about the season finale

959
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 1: against the Seahawks. A song that compass is how you

960
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 1: feel about the entire season. Jody, you look finished. You

961
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: can go first.

962
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 3: Yeah.

963
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 2: I was thinking about this last night, and you know,

964
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 2: the song that just came to my mind.

965
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 3: Was Let's Get It Started by the Black Eyed Peas.

966
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 3: I think that's who sings that song.

967
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 4: Right.

968
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 2: It's kind of a fun party song, and we're in

969
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 2: a little bit of a party mood, are we not?

970
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: We are about how exciting next year is going to

971
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: be I think we all think, you know, we're talking

972
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 2: about maybe eight nine wins, maybe a playoff situation. Let's

973
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 2: get it started is how we feel about the twenty

974
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: twenty four So I love the optimism I do. I

975
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,720
Speaker 2: feel pretty optimistic about it. And that's that's a great feeling.

976
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 4: You know.

977
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 2: One thing that teams in the NFL right now are

978
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: going into off seasons of there's a lot of teams

979
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 2: that were, like the Cardinals last year, uncertainty, you know,

980
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: not sure, and they're not gonna know about guys that

981
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: have come in and they have to change their decision makers.

982
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,959
Speaker 2: They won't really know until the heart of the twenty

983
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: twenty four season. Well, the Cardinals have gotten through that

984
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 2: part and you know, really unanimously. It's been all positives

985
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 2: and all rave reviews for what Monte Austin for it,

986
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 2: Jonathan Gannon and their staffs have done. So that part

987
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: is over. So now it's exciting to think about, you know.

988
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 2: So Let's get it started.

989
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 3: Was on my mind and I like the song so Zach,

990
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 3: how about You?

991
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 4: So I really am showing my youth in this one

992
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 4: because I'm picking a song from Nickelodeon. I went with

993
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 4: halfway There by Big Time Rush, which first.

994
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: Of all singly by whatever that song is.

995
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 4: Oh I could sew, I could belt it out right now.

996
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 1: Are you offering?

997
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 4: No, not offering. But the reason why I picked halfway

998
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 4: there is because I think that we've talked a lot

999
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 4: about the pieces that this team has and what they

1000
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 4: need to bring in. We just had a little conversation

1001
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 4: about that there. I think that the biggest component, and

1002
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,319
Speaker 4: something Kylert spoke about, was the refreshing aspect of it,

1003
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 4: the accountability aspect of it. Those are the intangibles that

1004
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 4: you need to make a solid football team. The development

1005
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 4: on the field will be there, but it's what you're

1006
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 4: also able to do off the field. And I think

1007
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 4: the fact that this is what it's been like off

1008
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 4: the field, the complete one eighty the culture shock, truly

1009
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 4: shows why they are halfway there into making this season happen,

1010
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 4: for next year, what it could potentially be like, because

1011
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 4: the good things are on the horizon, as Jonathan again

1012
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 4: and said postgame.

1013
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: Last January, general manager Manti Austin Fortt was hired, had

1014
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: his introductory press conference, then a few weeks later introducing

1015
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 1: head coach Jonathan Gann and they talked about creating a

1016
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 1: winning culture. It's impressive how in just one season that

1017
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: winning culture is tangible. You can feel it in the

1018
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: locker room, you can feel it around the facility, you

1019
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 1: can feel it when you're hearing franchise quarterback talk about

1020
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: how refreshing it is having that trust in the front

1021
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: office when it comes to addressing needs in the draft

1022
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: and in free agency. I went with thanks for the

1023
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,720
Speaker 1: Memories by Fallout Boy. Just a really a good season

1024
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: in the sense that again you are getting a good

1025
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 1: look at what this team can be, what this coaching

1026
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: stuff can get out of rookies and depth players that

1027
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of experience. It's been impressive on

1028
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: that front. The Cardinals have the fourth overall pick in

1029
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: the draft, lots of decisions to be made there, and

1030
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: we will have coverage on asycardinals dot Com as well

1031
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: as our personal handles for draft coverage, Senior Bowl, combine,

1032
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: free agency, all that good stuff all out. There is

1033
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: no off season, right it begins, there is no off season,

1034
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 1: so we'll have you covered, Bergang, so be sure to

1035
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: stay locked in on Azycardinals dot Com and with us

1036
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1037
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Speaker 1: Jacob Ortiz, our lovely producer Jimmy Mohundro who's over there

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1039
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1040
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Speaker 1: So thank you to everybody who's involved in Morning Scrible

1041
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1042
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1043
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