WEBVTT - Resisting Mass Eviction in Santa Barbara Part 2

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome Dack. It Appened Here, a podcast about landlords doing

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<v Speaker 1>bullshit and how you can stop them. Today, we're continuing

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<v Speaker 1>our interview with two tenants in California fighting a massiveviction

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<v Speaker 1>by landlord Ghules core spaces Enjoy. Yeah, something else I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to ask about that I'd heard about was like

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<v Speaker 1>harassment from the guards and the fact that there suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>started being security guards after this started. I'm talking. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>either you want to talk about that a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>I yeah, I would love to talk about that. So

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<v Speaker 2>I have lived here for almost three years. We did

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<v Speaker 2>have security. I want to say it was Saturdays between

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<v Speaker 2>It was one security guard for all four buildings Saturdays

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<v Speaker 2>between eleven pm and like three four am, just just

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<v Speaker 2>one security guard that will walk around just during that time.

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<v Speaker 2>Since core Spaces has purchased the property, we have two

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<v Speaker 2>to four twenty four to seven security guards. I know

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<v Speaker 2>they're they're really They've made me personally super fucking uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had them ask me where I live, Like when

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going around canvassing right trying to get flyers people's

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<v Speaker 2>doores let them know, like, hey, this is these are

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<v Speaker 2>the actual facts.

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<v Speaker 3>Stuff like that. They've asked me, like where, what building.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you live in?

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<v Speaker 3>What's your name? Creepy things?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, I'm not going to tell you that

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea who you are. They walk past

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<v Speaker 2>our apartment constantly. It's every time I go outside, they're

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<v Speaker 2>waiting right outside the building. They're taking photos of the

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<v Speaker 2>things across the buildings, like stuff outside of people's units.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really uncomfortable, and it's kind of telling because it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>we never need a security before. Oh, but but once

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<v Speaker 2>you bought the building and wanted to kick everyone out, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, you're you're you know, you're hiring

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<v Speaker 2>these random people, which I will also add one of

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<v Speaker 2>our neighbors talk to one of the security guards. He

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<v Speaker 2>worked there for a day and was like, yeah, they

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<v Speaker 2>lowered my pay to like minimum wage.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going yeah, yeah, he literally don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe we should try to like help utilize the yes

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<v Speaker 4>course baces. You guys are such Mark Lips and Chris Richards.

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<v Speaker 4>You guys are the cheapest, stummiest him in the England planet.

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<v Speaker 2>Right And and he was like, yeah, I'm leaving, like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to do this.

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<v Speaker 3>This is stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>But usually when I go out, you know, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>for the most part, they're usually just sitting on their phone,

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<v Speaker 2>standing in front of the entrance, locking the doors again,

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 5>Kind Yeah, well with yeah, well the standing around part

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<v Speaker 5>of the cops chop so far hopefully not the other

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<v Speaker 5>part of the cop jop where they yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Minus any credentials.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically not that I want cops here either, but but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's been in my own personal opinion, it's harassing behavior,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and it's in and I've talked to so

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<v Speaker 2>many tenants here, especially again the more marginalized tenants. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not I'm not gonna like specify them, but they're very

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<v Speaker 2>intimidated by them, and they actually do think they are cops.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't know that. No, these aren't police officers. They

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<v Speaker 2>aren't trying to. They don't have the power to do

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<v Speaker 2>certain things that you may be afraid of.

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<v Speaker 1>Are they like, are they like in like like policy uniforms.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, no, they have Yeah, they have security uniforms.

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<v Speaker 2>They have tasers on them. They they they like to

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<v Speaker 2>direct their power.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, probably not similar enough to be able to get

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<v Speaker 1>them on a person, to get police officer, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>still really depressing that Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but and again, and the strategy is to get

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<v Speaker 4>to it's to scare the ship out of people say.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just terror.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, it's it's uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>It's uncomfortable when you go out of your apartment and

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<v Speaker 2>there's just some random person with a taser just like

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<v Speaker 2>right next to you, and you're like, uh, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>trying to go check my mailbox, Like what the what

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<v Speaker 2>the hell?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, well you guys are safer though, right, So

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<v Speaker 4>that like that's happened Like if a like like if

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<v Speaker 4>an evil landlord and their slimy scummy evil law tine

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<v Speaker 4>were to try to like put you guys under the streets,

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<v Speaker 4>the security guards would come and defend you against them.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh wait, no, I am I mixed up. Oh they're

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<v Speaker 4>here to serve the evil people trying to put you

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<v Speaker 4>on the streets. Oh that's minimum minimum.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that's the sad thing too, is that that

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<v Speaker 4>the security guards are probably going to get renevicted by

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<v Speaker 4>like the Homeboys of the Core Spaces executives at some point, right,

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<v Speaker 4>Like yeah, uh, they're they're going to get renovicted. Somebody

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<v Speaker 4>is going to look at their wherever they're living as

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<v Speaker 4>a as a low performing asset that needs to be

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<v Speaker 4>retenanted and ship. Yeah, so yeah, I don't. So that's fun,

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<v Speaker 4>that's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't blame I know, I understand the job.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't blame them.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess as individuals, well, some of them, I do,

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<v Speaker 2>because they're clearly on power trips.

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<v Speaker 3>They like to enforce their power.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do understand that they are being hired outside

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<v Speaker 2>to do a job. But it's it's really not fun.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't imagine ever, Yeah, doing that myself, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>feel right.

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<v Speaker 3>But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, everyone, we're all suffering, right like the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're all trying to survive.

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<v Speaker 3>So I try not to judge too much, but I

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<v Speaker 3>can't help it. When you know they're taking photos.

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<v Speaker 2>Inside the windows of my apartment, it's sucking creepy, like.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, pretty creepy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess. Okay, is there anything else that I

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<v Speaker 1>teach you to if.

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<v Speaker 4>You want to talk about Let's see, we got the beginning,

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<v Speaker 4>so we got the law passed, and then we got.

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<v Speaker 6>The slimy.

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<v Speaker 4>Time. Taylor Fox Howard LP Garbage Law Firm came along. Well, okay,

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<v Speaker 4>so one one thing that's been a struggle, and I

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<v Speaker 4>would say, like Sam and a couple others have been

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<v Speaker 4>it's just nuts to me, like how much stamina. Well no, actually,

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<v Speaker 4>let me say this, like, uh so I am. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>a mental professional, which I don't like to say in

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<v Speaker 4>organizing spaces a lot because I don't like to mix

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<v Speaker 4>up the role too much. But like, straight up, everybody

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<v Speaker 4>I talk to in these situations, like in the role

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<v Speaker 4>of like tenant organizer, not not like therapists. It's just

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<v Speaker 4>everything reeks of PTSD symptoms, Like straight up like people

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<v Speaker 4>can't sleep, people are hyper vigilant. They're going out to

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<v Speaker 4>their car and they're looking around to see if there's

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<v Speaker 4>a security guard. They're in constant fear, they're confused there,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, their their startle responses up, which is which

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<v Speaker 4>is hyper vigulous. I mean there's literally can pick up

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<v Speaker 4>a fucking ds M five and look at the definition

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<v Speaker 4>of PTSD, and I would say, uh, I can't say everyone.

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't talked to everyone in the building, but I

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<v Speaker 4>mean this process creates fucking PTSD. Like I'm not exaggerating,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not making this up. And also because the mental

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<v Speaker 4>health fields, as a side note, is such a like neoliberal, individualistic,

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<v Speaker 4>fucking trash fire. It's hard to actually look at this

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<v Speaker 4>correctly to say like this is this is like a

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<v Speaker 4>mass like trauma of it. But despite the mass trauma

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<v Speaker 4>that everybody experiences with this, the resilience in it of

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<v Speaker 4>being like Okay, we're still going to go out and

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to fly her and we're going to knock

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<v Speaker 4>on doors and so like, there's been this phase, like

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<v Speaker 4>a two part kind of phase, which has been continuing

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<v Speaker 4>to talk to the county supervisors to try to get

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<v Speaker 4>them to pass a stronger law because there's kind of

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<v Speaker 4>this race now where if and when course Spaces gets permits,

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<v Speaker 4>then they can send out like actually proper notices, although

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<v Speaker 4>maybe there'll be problems of the notices and that can

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<v Speaker 4>be addressed or whatever, but like it is, it is

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<v Speaker 4>kind of just buying time, right if they if they

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<v Speaker 4>get permits and then they try to evict everybody, then

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<v Speaker 4>then then there's the actual sixty day uh like countdown,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess, depending depending on a lot of different factors. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>But so the county one of the supervisors said, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I want to I want to make like the most

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<v Speaker 4>gruesome speed bump to you know, to speed bump is

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<v Speaker 4>eviction for core spaces. And so what they did is

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<v Speaker 4>it is a big speed bump, but it actually doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>like solve the problem. Would solve the problem is either

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<v Speaker 4>a no fault of diction moratorium, which would be like

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<v Speaker 4>really broad. We're not sure how how what the chances

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<v Speaker 4>are getting them to pass that. But another thing would

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<v Speaker 4>be it's usually called right to return, but we're calling

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<v Speaker 4>it right to re rent because right to return, I

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<v Speaker 4>guess is a thing that like I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know, like Ziona Day or something, I don't know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a whole right right, right, So so, but right

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<v Speaker 4>to re rent, which is like a thing that is

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<v Speaker 4>in several other other cities and counties, which just means

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<v Speaker 4>like if the landlord legitimately needs to make renovations because

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<v Speaker 4>of like safety and inhabitability concerns or whatever, they have

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<v Speaker 4>to relok relocate the tenant temporarily, and then they have

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<v Speaker 4>to re rent to the tenant for what we were

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<v Speaker 4>asking is the same rent. We also think that like

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<v Speaker 4>using the using the ten percent a year framework would

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<v Speaker 4>be fine, like relocate them and then raise it by

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<v Speaker 4>ten percent if you didn't already once that year, right,

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<v Speaker 4>just just treat it as a normal thing. Like so

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<v Speaker 4>if we get them to pass that law, then they

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<v Speaker 4>can divict anybody.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>So on the one hand, we're like really trying to

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<v Speaker 4>get the supervisor studious and it's just sort of it's

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<v Speaker 4>just unknown, like how likely we are on that in

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<v Speaker 4>this moment. But then simultaneously we need to continue kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like educating the tenants on like on their rights

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<v Speaker 4>because they keep like as of today, management started illegally

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<v Speaker 4>in a racist way, targeting Spanish speaking Latino tenants telling

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<v Speaker 4>them that that they have to pick up their checks

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<v Speaker 4>right now. And Sam, you can correct it from but

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<v Speaker 4>it's like you have to pick up your checks by today,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, like next week or something. It's like

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<v Speaker 4>really soon or otherwise, like you don't get your relocation

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<v Speaker 4>money and then you're going to get intoviction lawsuit and

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<v Speaker 4>course spaces already as permits. Just making up all the

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<v Speaker 4>like all these things are lies. None of them they're true.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just gonna say I'm white, so I actually

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<v Speaker 2>didn't get that notice. But you are correct that Latina

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<v Speaker 2>families take get that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, because course spaces are racist and John Tyne

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<v Speaker 4>is a racist and Lacy Taylor's a racist, and they're

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<v Speaker 4>fucking evil pieces of shit. And I'm glad they're listening

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<v Speaker 4>to this and they quote me as many fucking times

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<v Speaker 4>as they want in any context. But so having to

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<v Speaker 4>like try to counter those all that disinformation, all those

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<v Speaker 4>lies is like this constant, like parallel process, like trying

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<v Speaker 4>to get the county to do stuff, but trying to

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<v Speaker 4>get people to like understand, like, no, they're lying to you, right,

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<v Speaker 4>Like while they're in this like chronic state of kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like PTSD, they're like where am I going to go?

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<v Speaker 4>What am I going to do? What's happening? And it's

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<v Speaker 4>hard for them to know who to trust because they're

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<v Speaker 4>being pummeled with with disinformation and rise from people with

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of power over them. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 4>you had anything else. Sorry, I kind of went off there.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you're you're fine, It's yeah, that's that's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the way I see it as well. I guess what

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<v Speaker 2>I would add is if the county doesn't do something,

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<v Speaker 2>this is.

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<v Speaker 6>Going to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Horrible for the entire county of Santa Barbara, but just

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<v Speaker 2>California in general. I mean, you have to think of

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<v Speaker 2>two one hundred and forty plus units, fifty whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't even know how many units.

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<v Speaker 2>There's so many units here, it's like it's insane.

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<v Speaker 3>This is going to be so bad. Where are these

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<v Speaker 3>people going to go?

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<v Speaker 2>If Santa Barbara has a from what I've heard, a

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<v Speaker 2>one to two percent vacancy rate, these these these people have,

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<v Speaker 2>including me as a person living here, have nowhere to go.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I will be entirely forced out of the county.

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<v Speaker 2>Me and my partner, who holds a job here. He

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<v Speaker 2>works as such a livery driver. He likes his job.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't pay great, doesn't have good benefits, but he

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<v Speaker 2>enjoys it and he's an important part of the community.

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<v Speaker 2>And if all of these human beings are forced out

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<v Speaker 2>of here, what is that going to do to Santa Barbara?

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<v Speaker 2>You know who's going to who are going to be,

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<v Speaker 2>the teachers, the healthcare professionals, the everything. I will say

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<v Speaker 2>in addition to that, this is why we formed Core

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<v Speaker 2>Spaces Tenants Association with the help of SBTU, so that

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<v Speaker 2>we can not only stay together and work together as

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<v Speaker 2>a union to fight this, but also what core spaces

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<v Speaker 2>will likely do in the future. So we actually learned

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<v Speaker 2>from the Santa Barbara Independent. They interviewed one of the

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was one of the Course Basis representatives.

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<v Speaker 3>Who said this was they have done this forty six.

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<v Speaker 2>Times and this is the first time they ever got

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<v Speaker 2>this level of community outreach, which I was like, excuse me,

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<v Speaker 2>what what we know that their executives are They've previously

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<v Speaker 2>worked for Goldman, Sachs and Blackstone, and to find out

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<v Speaker 2>they've done this forty at least forty six other times

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<v Speaker 2>and just gotten away with it. Now we're we're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to keep letting that happen. And so whatever happens

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<v Speaker 2>here at CBC in the sweeps are four buildings, however

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<v Speaker 2>it turns out, and hopefully it turns out in our favor,

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<v Speaker 2>We're not going to stop.

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<v Speaker 3>Because they are further.

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<v Speaker 2>They're just going to keep continuing this and it's we

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<v Speaker 2>it's disgusting. We can't keep letting this shit happen. Like

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<v Speaker 2>someone needs to stop it. It needs to be stopped.

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<v Speaker 2>And if I hope that we can get legislation to

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<v Speaker 2>stop it, but if not, we're going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>fighting force and we're not yeah, we're not stopping hell yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh and then I guess like, yeah, I don't think

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<v Speaker 4>you really said this, but like if any other tenants

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<v Speaker 4>that are you know, course Space as tenants wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>join Sam and her neighbors, right, Like that's that was

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<v Speaker 4>like you're saying Sam, Like the point was to create

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<v Speaker 4>something like they could have They could have named it

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<v Speaker 4>as more of a local thing like there their tendant Association,

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<v Speaker 4>but they chose Course Spaces as the company name. Right,

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<v Speaker 4>So like, and if you're in Arizona, if you're in Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 4>if you're in Seattle, Seattle or whatever, and you are

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<v Speaker 4>people getting renevicted by these people or or I don't know,

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<v Speaker 4>you're just students like renting by the bed, I won't

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<v Speaker 4>fix stuff or whatever, like you can join the course

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<v Speaker 4>basis then association this very well could be like a

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<v Speaker 4>national level organization. Like right now it's local, but it's

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<v Speaker 4>been set up to be something that could be potentially

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<v Speaker 4>national or international. Of course Bass wants to go you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Capital and those no boarders, so they want to go

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<v Speaker 4>fuck people up in other countries. Then you know, we

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<v Speaker 4>can pay more interpreters. I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I guess that's the thing I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>close on is like, you know, tenants unions are not

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<v Speaker 1>composed of like some kind of like like special group

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<v Speaker 1>of people, right. They're just people, right, Like I did

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<v Speaker 1>it back when I was doing stuff right, and like

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's just composed of random people. And like

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<v Speaker 1>that random person could very easily be you. And you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying, like someone has to stop these people, and

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<v Speaker 1>if it's not going to be that, it's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be you. The tenants fighting them like no one,

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<v Speaker 1>no one is ever going to and they're just to

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<v Speaker 1>keep running people over forever.

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<v Speaker 4>And politicians just aren't going to do this. I mean

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<v Speaker 4>acted really quickly because of the like show of force

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<v Speaker 4>from right, so they get like a cover from the constituency.

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<v Speaker 4>We're like, oh, we're allowed to do this, Like we

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<v Speaker 4>can do this, and or we're terrified of what will happen,

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<v Speaker 4>like will this be like another police station burnt down

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<v Speaker 4>if we pissed them off or something? Right, Like you

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<v Speaker 4>actually have to sort of like make the politicians afraid

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<v Speaker 4>of you. I mean you want to be their friends

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<v Speaker 4>and stuff too. I'm not very good at that I'm

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<v Speaker 4>good at like scaring them, I guess, but like you

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<v Speaker 4>have to like kind of scare them into acting. You

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<v Speaker 4>have to like discipline the politicians in acting. So anybody

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<v Speaker 4>that's like we just see more policies, it's like policies

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<v Speaker 4>don't just happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, like the like the Center burd people, It's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they acted quickly when they were forced to, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they could have literally at any time in the entire

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<v Speaker 1>history of Santa Barbara, they could have just passed this,

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<v Speaker 1>and they didn't until until you came for.

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<v Speaker 4>Them, right exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I think you're right about like

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<v Speaker 2>the Tennis Association, the Tennis Association being just we're random tenants.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not some politician, I'm not some leader. I'm a student,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I usually just spend my nights making dinner

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<v Speaker 2>with my cats, watching Jeopardy, Like I don't do this.

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<v Speaker 2>But the point being is when you come together as

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<v Speaker 2>a group, you have power in numbers. And although I

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<v Speaker 2>have faith that we will win against core Spaces for

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<v Speaker 2>our complex, even if we don't, we've left a huge

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<v Speaker 2>mark and we've helped so many residents of Santa Barbara County.

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<v Speaker 3>For maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>Landlords that we're planning to change the stove out and

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<v Speaker 2>not get permits, Well now they have to find a

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<v Speaker 2>reason to get a permit.

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<v Speaker 3>We've at least done that.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think there's a lot more that we will

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<v Speaker 2>do and can do, especially against core spaces and their

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<v Speaker 2>future endeavors their properties they decide that they want to overpay.

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<v Speaker 4>For yeah, I will throw out. Like one other resource

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<v Speaker 4>that is like a group that's called the Autonomous Tenants

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<v Speaker 4>Union Network, which is a network that SB two is

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<v Speaker 4>a part of. Just if you are if you're in

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<v Speaker 4>attendance union or you're interested in tenant organizing from anything

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<v Speaker 4>you've heard, they are there. It's it's like a network.

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<v Speaker 4>Like the word autonomous again is like it's people who

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<v Speaker 4>are sort of independent of various like you know, like nonprofits,

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<v Speaker 4>foundations and governments to just be sort of responsive just

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<v Speaker 4>to tenants themselves. So I'm not like a representative of

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<v Speaker 4>the group or au tuned, but it's a really strong

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<v Speaker 4>network of really experienced organizers that are really intent on

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<v Speaker 4>these kinds of things, right like forming like there's a

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<v Speaker 4>crisis former tenant association, like organize your whole block, like

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<v Speaker 4>get the politician to do a thing, go on rent

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<v Speaker 4>strike like whatever. Right, this more sort of militant, like

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<v Speaker 4>we desperate requires us to you know, to meet the

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<v Speaker 4>crisis where it's at and act that way. Right. So,

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<v Speaker 4>and there's other resources and I'm sure you can have

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<v Speaker 4>like you know, show notes and stuff, or you can

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<v Speaker 4>have links.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, other places specifically people can go if they

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<v Speaker 1>want to help the struggle specifically.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so for core spaces Tenet Association, the social media

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<v Speaker 2>handle is all core spaces t A. That would be

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<v Speaker 2>for Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, and TikTok. We have a go

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<v Speaker 2>fundme going as well, just to pay for things like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, food for events or i don't know, printing paper,

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<v Speaker 2>flyering stuff like that. We also have an email that

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<v Speaker 2>anyone can reach us at at core spacesta at gmail dot.

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<v Speaker 1>Com and we will we will put all of that

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<v Speaker 1>in the show notes. Sounds good. Thank you to so

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<v Speaker 1>much for coming on, and yeah, go beat these sons

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<v Speaker 1>of bitches, letting us swear.

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<v Speaker 2>We're definitely making their lives a lot harder than.

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<v Speaker 3>They expected, which is kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's been naked up in here, and yeah, you too

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<v Speaker 1>can go make your landlords days worse and your day's better.

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