1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: If you knew the power of the dock. 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 2: Side'll told you what happened to your fault. 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 3: He told me enough, I ron Anian, I've always had 4 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 3: the experience on a battery that takes a very long 5 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 3: time to charge to cycle back up. 6 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: That battery is probably a problem. 7 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 4: I think you're lack of fin disturbing the car Doctor. 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 4: But it just had that butter headitati for some reason 9 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 4: when it cold out, and it only does that when 10 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 4: it's cold. 11 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: Higher mileage or one tend one all right, it's one 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: hundred eighty thousand miles. 13 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 5: Just because he changed every sensor doesn't make any of 14 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 5: those new replacement sensors correct. 15 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 4: Welcome to the radio home of Ron Ananian, the Car Doctor. 16 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 4: Since nineteen ninety one. This is where car owners the 17 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 4: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 18 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 4: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 19 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 4: the phone and all in the garage doors are open. 20 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 5: But I am here to take your calls at eight 21 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 5: five five five six ninety nine hundred and. 22 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: Now he is here. 23 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 6: Obi wan Kenobi. 24 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 4: What makes you think a. 25 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: Tremor in the force. 26 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 6: The last time I felt it was in the presence 27 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 6: of my old master. 28 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 2: Surely he must be dead by that. 29 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 6: Don't underestimate the force he. 30 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 3: Running. 31 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 5: You know, I have a I have a story about 32 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 5: order repair to tell you today that I've been thinking 33 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 5: about it for two days. I don't know, I don't 34 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 5: know exactly know how I'm gonna tell you, because it's 35 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 5: just it's kind of complicated. And you know, as I 36 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 5: think of these things to talk to you about each 37 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 5: and every week and thank you for being here with 38 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 5: me today, is there value in this? And I think 39 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 5: there is value in this story because it shows what 40 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 5: goes on in a repair shop. You know, it's it's 41 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 5: the title of this could be how does the how 42 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 5: does the small repair become the big repair? How does 43 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 5: the gigantic repair get out of control? And it's it's 44 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 5: you know, it's there's a lot of factors that go 45 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 5: into fixing cars today, and some repairs are so cut 46 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 5: and dry. Yeah, I get that. It's just it's breaks, 47 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 5: it's tires, and even those aren't so cut and dry anymore. 48 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 5: There's still complications involved. But the car I'm thinking about 49 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 5: is the twenty thirteen Honda fit with the electrical draw 50 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 5: with the battery drain, and it came to us the 51 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 5: week prior, and I kind of picked at it a 52 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 5: little here and there. I actually thought the car was 53 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 5: fixed last week or the week before, because the battery 54 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 5: was dead when it came in, and when I jumpstarted it, 55 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 5: the dome light was left on. So you say to yourself, well, 56 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 5: I guess the dome light was left on and that's 57 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,959 Speaker 5: what killed the battery. First assumption. Assumption is always a 58 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 5: dangerous word in order repair, Never mind here on radio. 59 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 5: So I tried charging the battery. The battery was quite old. 60 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 5: It was four going on five years. It needed a battery. 61 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 5: Batteries last four or five years years now, I don't 62 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 5: care what you were doing out there trying to get 63 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 5: nine years out of a battery. 64 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: Good luck. 65 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 5: Let me know how that works out for you. Two 66 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 5: o'clock in the morning somewhere on a parking lot, and 67 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 5: I put a battery in it. Well, the battery was 68 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 5: good now, and I turned the dome light off, and 69 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 5: I want to check for an electrical draw, and I 70 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 5: had three hundred and twenty five millims. I still had 71 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 5: a draw. Don't let the millionam part scary. It could 72 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 5: be a widget right, it's got to be less than 73 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 5: fifty widgets. We had three hundred and twenty five of them. 74 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 5: So the simple process is to go through and pull 75 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 5: one fuse at a time to see does the draw change, 76 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 5: does the draw go away? You know, there's there's something 77 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 5: about being a pretty good sized mechanic, you know, and 78 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 5: trying to wedge yourself under a dashboard. Or maybe it's 79 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 5: Honda's fault because of where they put that fuse box, 80 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 5: because they don't put it in a user accessible friendly 81 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 5: kind of a place. So when I found the position 82 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 5: and got underneath and set the meter up and I 83 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 5: could sit there and watch, and I pulled every fuse 84 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 5: out of it, and one of the time and there 85 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 5: was no change. And then I noticed that there was 86 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 5: a fuse holder. They give you a replacement fuse, and 87 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 5: the clock is ticking, right. They give you a replacement fuse, 88 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 5: but it's attached to a fuse puller, so that you 89 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 5: would use that to pull the fuses out as they fail, 90 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 5: one at a time. And I took a very close 91 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 5: look at it, and I could see that the fuse 92 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,559 Speaker 5: puller overlapped one more fuse that I never pulled. Fuse 93 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 5: number one in the underdash fuse box on a twenty 94 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 5: thirteen fit feeds the MIICU unit multiplex as we call it. 95 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 5: The body computer pulled number one, the draw went away. Okay, 96 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 5: so at least I have a circuit to go test 97 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 5: or so I thought that circuit is the backup fuse 98 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 5: for the body computer. And when that fuse gets pulled, 99 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 5: the body computer shuts down. It no longer operates, so 100 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 5: everything goes into zero. So I have to look at 101 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 5: now the rule would be right, everything kind of next down. 102 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 5: You start up here and you go down the tree, 103 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 5: and you go to this fuse and you go to 104 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 5: that fuse. Now you've got to disconnect everything off that 105 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 5: body computer to see which one of those components is 106 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 5: creating the draw. You know how tight? You know it 107 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 5: gets tight? Right, you're taking apart the interior. You're taking 108 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 5: apart the dashboard. Because it went everywhere. It went to 109 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 5: the gauge cluster, it went to the radio, it went 110 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 5: to the mobilizer unit, it went to the hands free 111 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 5: communication link, it went to every component on that car. 112 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 5: I got my way through about half of them, and 113 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 5: I kept thinking about the door lock. The door lock 114 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 5: bothered me. And you know credit to James Earl Jones. 115 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 5: Maybe I was using the force this week because I 116 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 5: kept thinking about that door lock. I couldn't get the 117 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 5: key to going to the door lock because somebody had 118 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 5: tried to jimmy the lock cylinder. They had tried to 119 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 5: punch it out, and even though it stood in the 120 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 5: same vertical position, and something about that bothered me. And 121 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 5: I went over to it and I kind of wiggled 122 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 5: it a little bit. I could get the key to 123 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 5: sort of go in, but I couldn't get at the turn. 124 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 5: I tried forcing it with a screwdriver. I couldn't get 125 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 5: it the turn. And I said, what if this lock 126 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 5: cylinder jammed as it is is in the wrong position. 127 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 5: And I went through wiring and I found a point 128 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 5: where that lock cylinder provides an input to the door latch. 129 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 5: The door latch is controlled and read and operated by 130 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 5: the body computer. The body computer is powered up as 131 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 5: back up through fuse number one, the one I pulled 132 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 5: in order to see the draw go away. 133 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: What if this is causing this is causing that is 134 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: causing this. 135 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 5: I took the door panel off and unplugged the main input. 136 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: Going into the latch. 137 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 5: It's a nine wire round connector towards the rear of 138 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 5: the door, underneath the body panel, and the drug goes away. Okay, 139 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 5: so now I've got it to it's either a door 140 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 5: latch or the lock cylinder. 141 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: Which is it. 142 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 5: I ordered a lock cylinder from Honda because you know, 143 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 5: we've got to We've we've got to do that, Okay. 144 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: I mean it's just plain and simple. We've got to 145 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: do that. 146 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 5: And as I'm waiting for it to show up, I 147 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 5: kept thinking about it, and when the new one got there, 148 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 5: I could see how Handa did it. You know, it's 149 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 5: amazing the technology Honda puts into some of their cars. 150 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 5: I think it's overkilled to a degree, but they they 151 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 5: make the lock cylinder. It's geared off the back and 152 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 5: the gear changes the rotating motion to one that will 153 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 5: actually spin a cable and extend it, you know, this 154 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 5: way and that way in and out and twist it around. 155 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 5: So I disconnected the old lock cylinder off the vehicle, 156 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 5: took a little pocket screwdriver, went into Now imagine take 157 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 5: your take your one of your fingers and put it 158 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 5: between your thumb and finger on your other hand and 159 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 5: twist it sideways. Right, you're turning it and it will, 160 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 5: you know, go from a flat to a round kind 161 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 5: of a thing. And I did that with the screwdriver, 162 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 5: and sure enough I found the sweet spot where the 163 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 5: latch was supposed to be but wasn't because it was 164 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 5: stuck because someone had tried to jimmy the key and 165 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 5: it was off by just to touch, I mean just it. 166 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: Was a hare. It wasn't a lot. How did simple. 167 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 5: Repairs get complicated? I think a lot of it has 168 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 5: to do with the vehicle. I think a lot of 169 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 5: it has to be the approach and diagnosis. It has 170 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 5: to be some consistency, and I'm starting to really believe that, yes, 171 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 5: you know, there has to be some. 172 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: Judgment. 173 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 5: There has to be some assumption. Because the voice in 174 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 5: the back of my head, it kept nagging at me. 175 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 5: Pop always said, fix what you know is bad, go 176 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 5: on to the next thing, because sometimes you're beating yourself 177 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 5: up over nonsense. You know, if I hadn't put the 178 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 5: battery in the car, I wouldn't have known that the 179 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 5: you know about batteries out of the way, now, batteries good. 180 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 5: The dome light was on. The dome light was definitely on, 181 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 5: all right, and you got to get past that. You 182 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 5: can't sit there and lament what it could have should have. 183 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 5: Some cars just defy repair because of their complexity, and 184 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 5: I think it's only going to get worse. This is 185 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 5: an eleven year old vehicle, and I look at the 186 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 5: way Honda wired this. Honda should have set this up. 187 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 5: They should have fused the individual circuits, so they should 188 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 5: have broken it so there's not fourteen, almost fifteen components 189 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 5: and circuits feeding off that body computer, the body computer, 190 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 5: control DOUM light map, light gauge cluster, a mobilizer, hands 191 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 5: free radio, and the list goes on and on, the 192 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 5: cargo lamp in the back. There were just multiple things 193 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 5: to check. I think it was poor engineering on their part. 194 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 5: They could have made diagnosis easier by just giving us 195 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,599 Speaker 5: more fuse circuits, because there's no way you're going to 196 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 5: pull a fuse box down and start snipping wires, or 197 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 5: you're not going to pull a BCM out and start 198 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 5: snipping wires. It's too complicated. And on some of these cars, 199 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 5: these components are buried. It sounds easy to do, but 200 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 5: it's not. It's very involved. 201 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: How do I tell you this story? I guess I 202 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: just did. 203 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 6: Just know that. 204 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,680 Speaker 5: You know, you've got to be going to somebody that 205 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 5: can diagnose, somebody that's going to take that methodical approach, 206 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 5: because if you're looking for somebody to do it bang 207 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 5: zoom five to ten minutes, you're gonna end up buying 208 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 5: a lot of parts that you don't really need. This 209 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 5: car will be finished on Monday. We took it to 210 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 5: the a lock cylinder over to our locksmith yesterday and 211 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 5: we were getting it keyed the same, which is the 212 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,679 Speaker 5: other thing, right, I've got to yell at Honda for this. 213 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 5: You're buying a lock cylinder, they give you two keys. 214 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 5: Now they've got the vin it's a laser cut key, 215 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 5: so the key is not easily cut or serviced in 216 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 5: the field. I don't think the dealer can even do 217 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 5: it because part said no, you have to order a key. 218 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 5: They can't cut keys at the dealership level. Okay, So 219 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 5: I blame that on Honda, the manufacturer. So now if 220 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 5: I didn't have the key lock cylinder coded the same, 221 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 5: one of my pet peeves with cars, you've got two 222 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 5: keys for the same car. You've got a key to 223 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 5: open the door and a key to run the ignition 224 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 5: and that's a royal pain in the neck. 225 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 6: You know. 226 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 5: Maybe that's the way it was back in the sixties. 227 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,839 Speaker 5: I think we've transgressed from that. Uh you know, so just. 228 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: It was the heck of a week. So what can 229 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: I tell you? 230 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 5: But I got through it and I fixed the Honda 231 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 5: so complicated as it was. Assumption always a bad word. 232 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 5: The force a better way to do it. I'm ronning 233 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 5: ay in the car Doctor. 234 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. Don't go away, little g. 235 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 4: Need advice on how to maintain that classic gt O. 236 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,440 Speaker 4: Ron is the guy eight five five five six zero 237 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 4: nine nine zero zero. 238 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: Here's Ron, you know. 239 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 5: And well, I'll tell you that story a little later on. 240 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 5: Let's let's get over to the phones. Let's go to Larry. Larry, 241 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 5: you're on with the Car Doctor at eight five five 242 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 5: five six. 243 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: Zero nine nine zero zero. How can I help? 244 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 6: Well, this is Larry from Climosols Org, and we're forty 245 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 6: miles from Crater Lake National Park. Cool and I have 246 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 6: an old two T Bird that I purchased from Legwood 247 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 6: in North Dakota, has eight thousand miles on it, and 248 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 6: it has low miles because at other cars I was driving. 249 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 6: But I've never changed any fluids except the oil. Okay, 250 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 6: I'm reluctant to do it because I've heard horror stories 251 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 6: about the cars not running the same after they've done it. 252 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 6: So maybe I should change some What do you think 253 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 6: I think. 254 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 5: You should change them? I would change all the fluids, 255 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 5: which want all of them? 256 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: At this point? What listen? You're telling me. 257 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 6: Break wid You're yom jennifreeze. 258 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 5: Larry, I'm telling you if it's wet, I'd change it. 259 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 5: You're telling me you've got original coolant in that car, Larry, 260 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 5: You're definitely you're telling me that that coolant is two 261 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 5: thousand and two, that coolant is twenty three, twenty four 262 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 5: to twenty two years old. 263 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 6: Yes it is. 264 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's five year Ani Freeze. What are you waiting for? 265 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 6: I guess I'm not. Yeah, you told me that. 266 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 5: You know it's it's it's rated for five years. What 267 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 5: happens with coolandt Let's take it one at a time. 268 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 5: What happens with coolant. Coolant gets acidic, it turns, it 269 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 5: becomes like vinegar like apple cider would turn right, and 270 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 5: it will start to rot the cooling system from the 271 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 5: inside out, leaving it in there doesn't and changing it 272 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 5: with fresh doesn't activate anything, doesn't make the system react. 273 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,559 Speaker 5: If anything is just going to continue to rot, the 274 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 5: damage is already done. You want to try and slow 275 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 5: it down and prevent it. And what I would do 276 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 5: with that is you want to find a repair shop 277 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 5: that can a do a coolant exchange, not just drain 278 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 5: the radiator, but actually has an exchange machine something that 279 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 5: will do a coolant exchange. And my first thing I 280 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 5: would do is I would exchange coolant one for one 281 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 5: with clean water. Right this way we get out any residue. 282 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 5: I wouldn't put any chemical through it necessarily, but I 283 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 5: would just want to exchange it with clean water, and 284 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 5: then I would fill it with good quality coolant and 285 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 5: same clean water. Distilled water be wonderful if we want 286 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 5: to go that route. It's a little bit of extra work, 287 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 5: but it's worth it on an older Classic, and that'll 288 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 5: solve the cooling system problem. Break fluid. Brake fluid gets 289 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 5: displaced every year three to five percent by moisture, So 290 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 5: if the brake fluid's never been changed, that means that 291 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 5: the system has such a high percentage of moisture in it. 292 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 5: It's actually you know, rusting and corroding the cool the 293 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 5: brake system from the inside out, so the ABS controller, 294 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 5: the brake lines everything and you'll never see it until 295 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 5: something breaks a cool Do a brake flush, okay, four 296 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 5: wheel break flush. Repair shop should know how to do 297 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 5: that simple procedure and do it until the fluid is clean. 298 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 5: Engine oil, no brain or trans fluid. That's a five 299 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 5: speed trans It's. 300 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: Not going to have a dipstick. 301 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 5: It's got the bird bath as I call it, the 302 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 5: fountain overflow in the center pan of the trans. I 303 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 5: would lower the pan, would change that fluid. I'd put 304 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 5: a filter in it just for giggles, because you're there, 305 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 5: and I would expect to put a pan gasket on it. 306 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 5: And while the pan is down, I would clean it 307 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 5: and then I would flip it over and I would 308 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 5: paint the outside of the pan because there are they 309 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 5: tend to get calcified. It's just the location of where 310 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 5: it is. It gets like a white residue on it, 311 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 5: and they tend to rot. I would paint it just 312 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 5: to avoid any sort of future leaks and rear end 313 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 5: fluid gur oil is gear oil. I would I would 314 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 5: you know, I would have changed all of this twenty 315 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 5: years ago. 316 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: You know. So it's it's if you're gonna. 317 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 5: Find out, if it's going to be a problem, Larry, 318 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 5: you might as well find out now why you got 319 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 5: a chance to still get parts what you're getting harder 320 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 5: to get for those cars. 321 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 6: Okay, all right, the one. 322 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 5: Last thing I want to tell you. I want to 323 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 5: ask you, how many keys do you have for that car? 324 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: Larry? 325 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 6: Two? 326 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: Two? Okay, go get a third? To go get a third? 327 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 6: Well, what color is the one you acquired? 328 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: Well, here's here. Yeah, I've actually got I've actually got. 329 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 5: Four keys from my bird now because I actually I 330 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 5: actually found actually have five. I take that back, I 331 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 5: actually found because I have two at the house, two 332 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 5: at the shop, and an extra one just floating around 333 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 5: because the keys are getting hard to get. I actually 334 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 5: found two of the Ford keys. It was the black 335 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:20,119 Speaker 5: key with the blue. 336 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: Ford oval in the center of it. 337 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 5: But here's why you want to do it now, Okay, 338 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 5: what you have you have two master programmed keys. Okay, 339 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 5: So to make a third key, it's just a matter 340 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 5: of getting another key cut and then you have to 341 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 5: learn the key to the vehicle. Forwards of that era. 342 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 5: If you have the two master keys, which you do 343 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 5: all right, if you have the originals. 344 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: It's a matter of. 345 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 5: Turning, turning, turning one key, turning the key on, turning 346 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 5: the ignition on. Look at the anti theft indicator on 347 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 5: top of the dish. The lightwell, blink, blink, blink, and 348 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 5: then comes solid. Turn the key off. It's about a 349 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 5: three second count. Put the other key in, the other 350 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 5: master key in, turn the key on, blink blink blink, 351 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 5: go solid. 352 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: Turn the key off. 353 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 5: Take the new key, Put the new key in, and 354 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 5: if that key is capable of being learned, it'll go blink, blink, blink, 355 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 5: turn solid, turn it off. Count to five, Start the car. 356 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 5: You've now programmed the key on your own, and now 357 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 5: you have a backup. If you lose one of your 358 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 5: master keys and you're down to one, now you've got 359 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 5: to go through a much more complicated process with a 360 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 5: scan tool. Take it to a dealer. Hope you don't 361 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 5: lose that key. Hope you can find another one. It's 362 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 5: a mess. Every car needs at least three and if 363 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 5: you're silly like me, four keys, all right. It just 364 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 5: it just cuts down the confusion. 365 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: All right, Kiddle, what color? 366 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 6: What color? Is the ty bird you have white? 367 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 5: I have a white bird, black interior with red black 368 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 5: and red seats. 369 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 1: What year oh two? One of one of thirty one thousands? 370 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 6: All right, oh, luck. 371 00:17:58,560 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 5: To Laria here. 372 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: You're very well, sir. 373 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 5: I'm here if you need me. Yeah, listen, keys, you 374 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 5: gotta have key. As a matter of fact, I have remotes. 375 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: I found. 376 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 5: I found remotes for that car as well. So remotes 377 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 5: are a problem too. You got to think about all 378 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 5: the little details. 379 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: It's important. 380 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 5: I'm ronnin Nannie in the car doctor here at eight 381 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 5: five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. I'll 382 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 5: be back right after this. Don't go away. Excuse me 383 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 5: while I whipped this out. 384 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: And there I was ron Nannie in the car doctor. 385 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 1: Let's uh, let's go over to Edgar in Oregon. Let's 386 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: go here, Edgar. Welcome to the car doctor, Sir. How 387 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: can I help Edgar? 388 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? 389 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: Yes, sir, John, Yes, sir? 390 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: Can I help John in Oregon? 391 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 6: Oh? 392 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 2: John, I've got Yeah. I've got four classic cars here 393 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: that I've been running this summer, and I'm getting ready 394 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 2: to put them away for the winter. And I'm wondering 395 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 2: when is the right time to change the oil? I 396 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 2: usually do it once a year now or in the 397 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 2: spring when they get ready to come out again. 398 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 1: Now now, and I'll tell you why I'm gonna. 399 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 5: You know, if it was me, I'm going to change 400 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 5: the oil at the end of the season, all right, 401 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 5: so I've got clean, fresh oil in there. So if 402 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 5: anything got some acidity to it, or sludge to it, 403 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 5: or starting to get condensation and moisture, which is what 404 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 5: typically happens on an older classic car that doesn't get 405 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 5: driven every day, all right, you know, I've got fresh 406 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 5: oil in it. Now, before I change that oil, I'm 407 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 5: going to take each one out for a good long ride, 408 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 5: get a good and hot come back to a hot train, 409 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 5: fill it up with oil, start it up, let it 410 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 5: in five. 411 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: Minutes, put it away, all right. 412 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 5: And then when I take it out in the when 413 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 5: I take it out in the summer, when I get 414 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 5: it ready for in the spring, whenever ready to take 415 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 5: it out, I'm gonna put air back. I'm gonna air 416 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 5: back up the tires. I'm gonna look at my underhood fluids. 417 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 5: I'm gonna take it for a local ride around the neighborhood. 418 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: All's good. 419 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 5: I'm gonna bring it back to a hot change and 420 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 5: then I'm ready for summer cruising. I it's just just 421 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 5: my way of thinking, you know, because it's not I 422 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 5: worry about the acidity. I worry about the moisture. And 423 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 5: I learned this years ago on one of the engines 424 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 5: in one of the hot rods, that I never really 425 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 5: thought about it until one day I was doing valve 426 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 5: cover gaskets in the middle of January when I told 427 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 5: the cover off the valve cover was, you know, had 428 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 5: moisture and condensation and droplets mixed in with the oil. 429 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: And I went, yeah, look at that. 430 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 5: You know from sitting sitting in a heated garage, mind you. 431 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 5: So you know, lack of use, different differenties, differences in temperature, 432 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 5: sudden changes, it all adds up. And you know, as 433 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 5: I'm trying to protect it, you know, I want to 434 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 5: and I look at it as what's the price of 435 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 5: one extra oil change a year, right, John, it's or 436 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 5: two two? Right, It's not. It's not the end of 437 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 5: the world. And obviously a good filter, good oil, you know, 438 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 5: et cetera. 439 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: So second question, well, on this. 440 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 2: El Camino I have, it's an eighty six. They tell 441 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 2: me that the systems contaminated and I have to change 442 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 2: out everything. 443 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: Which system air conditioning? Okay? And why is it? Why 444 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: is that? Why is it contaminated? 445 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. They said it had a bunch of 446 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 2: dust in it, probably from the compressor. Although it does 447 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 2: seem to work. Of course it cycles a lot, right, 448 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 2: but they say compress, compress or condenser? Hose is evaporator? 449 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 2: Do it all? 450 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 6: All right? 451 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 2: So how much thirty dollars? 452 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 6: All right? 453 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 5: Before we do that, all right, let's think of it 454 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 5: like this. You've got an AC compressor. Is it the 455 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 5: small round four cylinder compressor or the long six cylinder compressor? 456 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: Which one is it? 457 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 2: And I think it's a small round on it's original 458 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: to the. 459 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 5: Car, right, it's the radio compressor. So yeah, they blew 460 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 5: up all the time, the R four. They're real jump, 461 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 5: they really are. 462 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 6: That. 463 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 5: This was this was when GM was on its way down. 464 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 5: Uh you know, so, yeah, that compressor blew up if 465 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 5: you take the line off, So you follow that compressor. 466 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 5: The compressor goes from the compressor, it goes into the condenser. Right, 467 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 5: there's an inlet, there's an outlet. Take the take the 468 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 5: outlet off of the condenser and look in it. 469 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: Do you see debris. Do you see any material? All right? 470 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: If you don't. 471 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 5: See material, then I don't see the claim of debris 472 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 5: from the compressor got through the system. Condensers are so 473 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 5: intricate and fine woven in terms of the size of 474 00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 5: the passages. Not much is going to get through that, 475 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 5: all right? And what little does you know? Go down 476 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 5: the next step in the lawn from the outlet of 477 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 5: the condenser, go down to the orifice tube. That should 478 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 5: be an orifice tube system correct, leading into the evaporator, right, okay, 479 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 5: go pull that orifice tube out. Is there debris and 480 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 5: the orifice tube? 481 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 2: They said there was? 482 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: Okay, is do you still have it? 483 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 2: I paid for a diagnose. I paid for a diagnosis. 484 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: Can you can do they still have it? Is it 485 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: still in the car? Is it? 486 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 5: Oh? 487 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 6: Yeah? 488 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I can check it. 489 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 6: Right. 490 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 5: And then you know, look at the outlet of the evaporator. 491 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 5: You know, did any debris get past the orifice? And boy, 492 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 5: that's an overloaded orifice. 493 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 6: Brother. 494 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 5: I've seen you know, I've had orifice that were completely plugged, 495 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 5: change them flushed out. The line from the orifice to 496 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 5: the condenser, from the condenser to the inlet from the 497 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 5: inlet to the compressor, and never put a compressor on 498 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 5: the car. Put a compressor on the car, and the 499 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 5: car ran forever. You know, I never had a I never, 500 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,399 Speaker 5: I've never had to put an evaporator in anything for 501 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 5: that purpose because I've never found one that actually got 502 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 5: that far damaged. 503 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: I get it. 504 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 5: I think they're covering their backside, or they saw something 505 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:07,959 Speaker 5: that you and I aren't seeing. 506 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: But there are ways to check it. 507 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,479 Speaker 5: It just can't be And my point, John becomes, it 508 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 5: just can't be a blanket statement. Hey, the compressor filed 509 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 5: change everything, right. You know, I understand changing the dryer, 510 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 5: I understand changing the condenser, but I've got to see 511 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 5: some debris on the outlet of the condenser. I've got 512 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 5: to see some debris in the orifice tube. I've got 513 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 5: to see debris, you know, elsewhere. Now, if it turns 514 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 5: out that you are going to have to do this, 515 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 5: why don't we make it worth our while and get 516 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 5: hoses for the AC system made up to contain one 517 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 5: thirty four, get a barrier. 518 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: That it was made. 519 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 2: That's what yeah, right, that's what I do, right. 520 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 5: You know, this way and for everybody else's benefit, that's 521 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 5: a hose, the old rubber hoses on the old R 522 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 5: twelve cars, which is what that eighty eight, eighty six, 523 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 5: eighty six El Camino, eighty six El Camino would be 524 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 5: to convert that to one thirty four. By the book, 525 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,239 Speaker 5: they want you to get a what we call a 526 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 5: barrier hose, which is the rubber hose outside but a 527 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 5: plastic sleeve inside because it will contain the one thirty 528 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,639 Speaker 5: four and prevented from leaking. That would almost make sense 529 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 5: to me. We're gonna spend three grand, you know, let's 530 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 5: let's do it one hundred percent. Then the other thing 531 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 5: I would think about is there were ways back in 532 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 5: the day where some of those systems were converted from 533 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 5: our four compressors to the A six to the longitudinal 534 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 5: six cylinder compressor, which is obviously a much better compressor, 535 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 5: you know. 536 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 6: There. 537 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a different, different manufacturer out there as well 538 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 2: that can probably fit this car with a different bracketry, right. 539 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 5: There's also yeah, there's also if you want it, because 540 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 5: I just found one for a what the heck was 541 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 5: that it was a Buick. It was a Buick wagon 542 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 5: from the early nineties. I just found a factory our 543 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 5: four compressors in the Delco warehouse. Don't tell anybody it's 544 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 5: in the Delco warehouse in Texas. Uh, they'll keep that 545 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 5: between you and me. But they they had four, they 546 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 5: have they had four on the shelf the last time 547 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 5: I checked, you know, so I was able to get 548 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 5: it wasn't cheap. 549 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: It was like a seven. 550 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 5: Hundred dollars eight hundred dollars compressor, but it was a 551 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 5: real you know, Delco GM brand new, sitting on the shelf. 552 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 5: And you know that car went out the door. It 553 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 5: was working, uh, you know, and and and therein you know, 554 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 5: there's my point, right. I did an orifice too, but 555 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 5: I did an accumulator because of the desiccon in there, 556 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 5: an age and I put a compressor on it. The 557 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 5: compressor it failed. I looked at all the lines, didn't 558 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 5: see anything obvious cars out there three months, you know, 559 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 5: so I. 560 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: Just get nervous with a blanket stay. 561 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 5: There's chemical out there that's illegal that everybody still has 562 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 5: that they don't talk about. To be very honest with you, 563 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 5: you know, there's yeah, there's there's some stuff out there 564 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 5: that's still in the marketplace that they don't want you using. 565 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: With flush guns. 566 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 5: You know, it's a real The ac business has got 567 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 5: to be one of the craziest parts of what are repair. 568 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 5: They train us, they educate us, you can still get 569 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 5: the chemicals. They teach you to do things, and then 570 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 5: a year later you find out you're doing it the 571 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 5: wrong way, and then they want it all back and 572 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 5: nobody ever turns it in, so you know it's But 573 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 5: there are there are chemical flushes on the shelf and 574 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 5: repair shops, and I think you're still gonna find and 575 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 5: obviously you're gonna find legit what I'll call legit chemicals 576 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 5: that don't work as well doing the flushes. So but 577 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 5: there's stuff out there. So all right, kiddo, OK, thank you. 578 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 5: I appreciate the call. John, you'd be well, Yes, sir, 579 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 5: take good care. I'm Ronning Ay in the car doctor 580 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 5: here at eight five five five six zero nine nine 581 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 5: zero zero. 582 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. Don't go away, seeds. 583 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 5: Welcome back, brun A name the car doctor. Let's do 584 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 5: a couple of pieces of email. This one comes to 585 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 5: us from Eric. Hey, Ron, I've got a two thousand 586 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 5: and eight Lincoln MKZ with a three point five liter 587 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,479 Speaker 5: V six. Recently I've been getting a P zero three 588 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 5: point fifty six fault code. When this happens, the car 589 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 5: runs up both idle and driving. I've replaced the spark plug, coil, 590 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 5: and fuel injectory and the run a bottle of cleaner 591 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 5: through the tank is able to drive the car for 592 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,160 Speaker 5: about a week and the problem returns with the same code. 593 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 5: I'm starting to think the connection piece to the ignition 594 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 5: coil is bad. Reason for this is the white plastics 595 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 5: seem to be melted a bit. The holes inside the 596 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 5: connection piece are misshaped and have a little melted plastic 597 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 5: over the middle connecting slot. Before I go and try 598 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 5: and replace this connection piece, I want to ask if 599 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 5: there's something I'm overlooking with this problem. Could have been 600 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 5: another issue I'm not thinking about causing the misfire. Listen 601 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 5: back back up a second. I just you know what 602 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 5: I would have done, Eric is I would have moved 603 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 5: the coil and the plug for number six to two 604 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 5: different cylinder. I would have put the plug somewhere and 605 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 5: the coil somewhere, driven the car. Where's the misfire? Go? 606 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 5: Does the misfire stay with the cylinder? Then I would 607 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 5: have changed injector or thought about injector, or do I 608 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 5: have a compression issue, et cetera. Does it follow the 609 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 5: coil it's a bad coil. Does it follow the plug, 610 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 5: it's a bad plug. Or if it stayed with the 611 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 5: cylinder as you say, if you see a misshaped connector, 612 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 5: you know there's there's no monkeying around with that. You've 613 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 5: got to fix that connector. Next the other possibility here, 614 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 5: all right, And at this point, if you've gone through 615 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 5: all this, you've done plug, coiled, injector, et cetera. Then 616 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 5: the next step I'm going to tell you is after 617 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 5: the connector, you need to think about if, if the 618 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 5: problem continues, could you possibly have a bad coil driver 619 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 5: or injector driver in that cylinder? 620 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: All right? 621 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 5: And the only way you're going to do that is 622 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 5: now you're going to separate. You know, where does it 623 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 5: go if you want to try that again, or you're 624 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 5: going to have to start to get a scope and 625 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 5: look to see does that signal disappear? 626 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 6: All right? 627 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 5: And you know, all of a sudden it's there and 628 00:29:58,680 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 5: then it's not there. But you've got to get that 629 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,640 Speaker 5: coil connector fixed first before you go there. And then 630 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 5: there's always a possibility. This is a compression issue depending 631 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 5: upon what scan tool you have, or what you have 632 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 5: access to, or what every repair shop has. Most of 633 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 5: the better scan tools or more advanced scan tools in 634 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,880 Speaker 5: the marketplace today will do a cranking compression test on 635 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 5: Ford product. It's really relative compression. It won't give you 636 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 5: a specific number. It will just what I'll do is 637 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 5: it'll sync off of number one and it will look 638 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 5: at starter current draw based on cycle of the engine 639 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 5: and what that pulse becomes, and it will show you 640 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 5: relative compression among all the cylinders, so real simple tests. 641 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 5: You could also do a cylinder power balance contribution. But 642 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 5: we already know you've got some sort of a problem 643 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 5: on six. I don't know that I'm going to go 644 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 5: there right now. You've already changed everything except for that connector. 645 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 5: You know, I'm just trying to do we have a 646 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 5: compression problem. The cranking relative compression test will show you that, 647 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 5: you know, in a much better, more clear presentation. Do 648 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,239 Speaker 5: that got any questions? Give me a call eight five 649 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 5: five five six zero nine nine zero zero. I'm running 650 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 5: in the car doctor, and I'll be back right after this. 651 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 5: Don't go away. 652 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: Welcome back, running the car doctor. I want to do. 653 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 5: I want to do a piece of email, and I 654 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,840 Speaker 5: want a little bit of time with this one. I'm 655 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 5: Edgar wrote in here's Edgar. Right, we had John before 656 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 5: that was an Edgar. 657 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: That was John. Here's Edgar. 658 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 5: Edgar wrote in hey Ron, I've got a twenty seventeen 659 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 5: Buick Enclave driver's side left side the daytime led running 660 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 5: white is out. The dealership tells me I have to 661 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 5: replace the whole headlight assembly and handed me a repair 662 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 5: estimate for you Ready for this two grand? This can't 663 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 5: be right, Edgar writes, anywhere advice you can give me 664 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 5: greatly appreciated. 665 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: I thank you. It could be right. 666 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 5: Uh, you know, I have to tell you it's I'm 667 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 5: seeing some of these headlight assemblies anywhere from a thousand 668 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 5: to fifteen hundred bucks and up on some of the 669 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 5: gms and even everything right, headlights have just gotten to 670 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 5: be crazy. Headlamp modules. We had to put a set 671 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 5: of headlamp headlamps in a I think it was a 672 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 5: fifteen or a sixteen fourd escape. The headlamp assembly was 673 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 5: fourteen hundred dollars just for the lamp, all right, and 674 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,719 Speaker 5: then the bumpercover had to come off. Then there had 675 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 5: to be a calibration, and it was over two grand. 676 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 5: So yeah, Edgar, you know what, it could be two grand. 677 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 5: It very well could be two grand. It's not impossible. 678 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 5: So and a lot of it has to do with 679 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 5: the electronics. If this is led, if this, you know, 680 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 5: is a combination of bulbs, DRL and some of the 681 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 5: other lights that there, this is the complete assembly. 682 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. It does get expensive. 683 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 5: You know. I'm going to say that if the headlamp 684 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 5: is twelve thirteen hundred dollars, it's probably two hours, by 685 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 5: the book to pull the bumper off and get the 686 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 5: headlamp out. Most dealers are two hundred dollars an hour better. 687 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 5: Most repair shops are almost two hundred dollars. Let's use 688 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 5: two hundred as a barometer. All right, there's four hundred twelve, 689 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 5: four sixteen. There's a calibration involved, eighteen plus tax two grand. 690 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: See how quick we got there. It's it's not impossible. 691 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 5: What I would tell you could try if you wanted 692 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 5: to do a less expensive alternative is do you have 693 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 5: a body shop? And if you have a body shop 694 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 5: that you frequent, hopefully not frequent, but you know you 695 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 5: get my point. If you've got a body shop, you 696 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 5: can go talk to get an estimate there. Body shops 697 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 5: can be a little bit cheaper on labor, all right, 698 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 5: because of the way they're set up there. You know, 699 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 5: they do some things a little different than a mechanical shop. 700 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 5: So this could be construed as a body type repair 701 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 5: and you know that will work for you. Now, the 702 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 5: other thing you could try is you could try and 703 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 5: after more could head lamp assembly. Look and see does 704 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 5: Dorman make anything? 705 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: All right? 706 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 5: Look and see, you know, get down to your local 707 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 5: NAPA and look to see do they have anything in 708 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 5: the way of any specific line or do they You know, 709 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 5: NAPA will have Dorman as well, and you know what 710 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 5: sort of headlamp assemblies do they carry. Dorman was making 711 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 5: headlamp assemblies recently. I saw and you know Dorman Products 712 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 5: dot com. 713 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: You can verify it. 714 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,760 Speaker 5: They don't have it for all models, but it's always 715 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 5: a possibility at least, you know, with them, they've re 716 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,400 Speaker 5: engineered it to you know, if there's if there are 717 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 5: issues with that, because why are you putting a head 718 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 5: lamp in a twenty seventeen. They've corrected the problem. So 719 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 5: Dorman's a good way to go. But yeah, it could 720 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 5: be two grand with oe parts. It's it's it's it's 721 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 5: gotten out of hand, So you know, that's that's just 722 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,760 Speaker 5: part of what we're dealing with, right Listen. I started 723 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 5: the show today talking about technology on that Honda fit 724 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 5: and the way things were assembled and the way the 725 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 5: fuses were laid out and how complicated that was. And 726 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 5: I'm ending the show talking about the technology of something 727 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 5: as simple as headlamps being two thousand by the time 728 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 5: you get him installed in a vehicle. Two grand doesn't 729 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 5: buy what it used to. Heck, one hundred bucks doesn't 730 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 5: buy what it used to. 731 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: So welcome, Welcome to the world, Edgar. I thank you 732 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: for the question. 733 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 5: If everybody else has stuck with me this hour, thank 734 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 5: you once again. 735 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: For being here. 736 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 5: I'm Ronnini and the Car Doctor. The mechanics aren't expensive, 737 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 5: they're placeless. 738 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: See you.