1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: And now moved the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: What's going on everybody, d J Bucky here moved the 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,719 Speaker 1: sticks presented by the U. S. Marine Corps back again. Buck. 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:14,079 Speaker 1: I don't know if you, uh, if you got a 5 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: chance to listen to it, I'm gonna guess probably no. Uh, 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: but I did go on the Around the NFL podcast, 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,159 Speaker 1: uh last week, and uh I got a lot of it, 8 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:25,639 Speaker 1: got a lot of chatter, got a lot of chatter 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: on the lot of chatter the old Twitter. Yeah did 10 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: um Handers didn't bring his a game. Let's just leave 11 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: it at that. Oh yeah, oh you took down the chat. Yeah. 12 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 1: I don't know if he was Russia, if you ever 13 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: had a belt, but he lost if that's what you 14 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: get lost, But no, it was. It was a good 15 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: time visit with those guys. But uh, some things we 16 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: want to hit on today on the pod. We've got 17 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: a couple of cool interviews coming up. We've got Quincy 18 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: Wilson the Corner from Florida, who we had in studio. 19 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: Also have Malachai Dupree who we had on a Skype 20 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: interview wide receiver from l s U. So we're gonna 21 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: roll both those in uh in a little bit here, 22 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:01,280 Speaker 1: But a couple of things I want to hit on 23 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: here before we get to some of these interviews. What 24 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: were your take what's your take on on what happened 25 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: with Notre Dame coach Brian Kelly and and basically for 26 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: those who haven't heard, um I guess he was asking 27 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: an interview about Kaiser and uh he he said he 28 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: thinks to Sean should still be in college. I can find, 29 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: I'll find. I'm gonna pull it up right here and 30 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: give me the exact words because I don't want to 31 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: put words in his mouth. Kaiser should still be in college. 32 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 1: He needs more time to grow on and off the field. 33 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: He isn't complete yet. He did praise his physical gifts. 34 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: He has a strong arm and physically gifted. I think 35 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: he has all the tools, but he needs time. So 36 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: it just well, let me get let me get your 37 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: thoughts before I wait in here. Well, I think it 38 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: always posts us in a bit of a dilemma. Um 39 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: As evaluates in his fans like, we want the head 40 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: coach to be honest and forth right and kind of 41 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: tell us all the information about a player, But then 42 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: sometimes you kind of would like to see the coach 43 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: go to bad for his player and kind of, you know, 44 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: protect him, protect him. Feel good now and just listening 45 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: to that quote he he gave out, I think that 46 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: we probably could agree that all of these quarterbacks in 47 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: this draft would have benefited from having another year, more experienced, 48 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: more things. However, Deshaan elected to go um at Notre Dame, 49 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: and there was some debate about, you know, the young 50 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: quarterback that is sitting there behind in Brandon Winbush. Some 51 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: there feel like he's a star, and what would that 52 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: do to affect Deshaan's playing time. I will say this 53 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: about Brian Kelly in terms of what he said directly 54 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: about Kaiser needing more time to grow on and off 55 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: the field, those are the things that resonate with me. 56 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: I do believe in talking to Kaiser himself like there's 57 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: a maturity that needs to take place. He has to 58 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: kind of mature into being a positive leader. He could 59 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: his game certainly could mature on the field. I think 60 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: the thing that kind of rankles some feathers is just 61 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: that you don't expect your head coach to make that statement. 62 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: Most of the time. You kind of give him a 63 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: nice send off Bouquet. You gotta say, hey, the guy 64 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: was great for the program and did a lot of 65 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: great things, whereas we wish him will normally don't get 66 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: that hard line honesty. But Brian Kelly was asked and 67 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: he gave an answer, and then we have to kind 68 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: of digest it. Yeah, people go both ways on this thing, 69 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: right you so, oh, we want the coach to be honest, 70 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: and then you get the people say what he dogged 71 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: out his player. I tend to think in this situation, Um, 72 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: I don't want my head coach being honest in public 73 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: like that. I mean, they don't. There's some things that 74 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 1: you can kind of keep behind. Look, and this is 75 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: this is the thing, and this happens with you know, 76 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: when scouts and you're going in and talking to coaches, 77 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: they say some some terrible things about their players because 78 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: they don't want to ruin their reputation with the with 79 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: the scouts and with the NFL folks. So they don't 80 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: want to have a reputation as being somebody just full 81 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: of it and just you know, it's all blustered. There's nothing, 82 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: you know, you can't trust him, But there's a darreestring 83 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: telling a scout or a GM on a phone or 84 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: an in your office versus telling somebody on the radio 85 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: in a in an interview. Oh, I mean, it's just 86 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: definitely a huge difference. Obviously, when you're dealing with scouts, 87 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,839 Speaker 1: you wanted to be direct and honest and forthright. But look, Buck, 88 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: to me, this is this is what I would say 89 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: if you always have to try and put yourself in 90 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: the situation that the coach is in. Right here, right 91 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: If I was asked that question, asked a question about Kaiser, 92 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: here's what I would say. I would say, Look, uh, 93 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: I didn't do enough to help him. You know, he 94 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: obviously didn't play to the same level he played at previously. 95 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 1: But as a coach, I don't think I did a 96 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: good job of putting the right pieces around him and 97 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: putting him in a spot where he could be successful. 98 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: I do think he has all the tools to be successful. 99 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: It's gonna take a little time, but um, he's he's Look, 100 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: I'm excited for him and what his future holds and 101 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,119 Speaker 1: what he can be. That's a little different than saying 102 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: he should still be in college. I mean, come on, 103 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: but he needs he needs more time to grow on 104 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: if he he isn't completely yet and then he just tags. 105 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: But he has a strong arm and he's physically gifted. 106 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: I think he has all the tools but needs time. 107 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: I just think there's a different way to say that, 108 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: And if you want to look at it from the 109 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 1: player's perspective, here's what I would be thinking if I 110 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: was Kaiser right, be like, look you, I got worse 111 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: under you, so I'm gonna come back for another year 112 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: and I might get benched. Last year. You were jerking 113 00:04:57,800 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: me in and out of the line up the whole time. 114 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm clearly not a cup of team. I'm not your guy, 115 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna go where somebody wants to develop me, 116 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: and I'm not a finished product yet. I'm sure Kaiser 117 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 1: would agree with that, if you think. I think he 118 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: does agree with that assessment. I think he has learned 119 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: from his time and notre dame. I think he's excited 120 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: about going on, and I think teams that are looking 121 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: at him, if it's the right situation, many they have 122 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: time to wait on him to develop. I think they 123 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: really couldn't cover a guy that has all the Protocobel 124 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: traits that we look for in franchise quarterbacks. It's just 125 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: a matter of are you patient enough to wait for 126 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: him to grow into that role. Because I still stick 127 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: with this, and I know our rankings have changed and 128 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 1: some of the things when it comes to the top 129 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: fives and the top fifties and all the other stuff, 130 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: I still believe at the end of the day, when 131 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: I look at him, he is the best. When it 132 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: comes to looking at what's on franchise quarterback looks like 133 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: he has all the trades. He makes all those throws, 134 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: timing anticipation, can throw the long ball, can play the 135 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: short game, has the big physical statue that you look 136 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: for the position. Has he put it together long enough 137 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: for long enough stretches to say like consistently he's going 138 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: to be the guy. No, but if you're taught degrade 139 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: to flashes, his flashes are spectacular when it comes to 140 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: playing that position the way that we're used to seeing 141 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: it play it on Sundays, I just don't. I mean, 142 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: maybe there's other parts of this interview that I haven't 143 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 1: seen here. Um, I just hope there was some responsibility 144 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: taken by the head coach. That's what I hope, because 145 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: to me, they did not play well. But look that 146 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: their offensive line, they lost a center to the NFL, 147 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: lost the left tackle to the NFL, lost a number 148 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: one wide receiver the NFL, and fuller, so they weren't 149 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: the same team. I just don't know why you wouldn't 150 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: try and at least try and not making excuses for 151 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: kind some of that. Yeah, but it takes some of 152 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: that either take it on yourself or like, look, we 153 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: weren't the same team obviously, and they weren't. He got 154 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: undo blame for everything that went on, and in fact, 155 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: as the head coach, I should take on that blame. 156 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: Not not going to pass it off on my quarterback. 157 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: He certainly should take on some of that water um. 158 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: And I think it's very important that we point out 159 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: those differences between sixteen in terms of how you looked 160 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: and how you perform, because this guy was there doing 161 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: day due diligence. They're looking back at that previous season 162 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: and they're seeing this guy make all these throws and 163 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: play really well. Kind of uh thrust into a situation 164 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: where no one thought that he would play when Malik 165 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: got injured, and he did play with a talented supporting cast, 166 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: and he looked like a number one pick. And so 167 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: I think you have to kind of wait at that 168 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: has the fact into the evaluation, because if he goes 169 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,559 Speaker 1: to a team that has some pieces already in place, 170 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: I do believe he could play and play well early 171 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: in his career. It just depends on the supporting cast. 172 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: He's just like the other quarterbacks in the draft. They 173 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: need to have the right stuff around him. All right. 174 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: I want to get to uh another quarterback real quick here, 175 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: just quickly on ma Homes and I want to get 176 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: to some other pockets of players talk about here, but uh, 177 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes. We've talked about him before Texas. Texas had 178 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: his pro day. He's tire. Just look, we we both 179 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: talked to people around the league. There are some some 180 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: big supporters of his. I did not like the pro 181 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: day from what I saw. Um, I'm not I'm not 182 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: a huge fan of the tape either. I don't think 183 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: he's worth the first round pick. But there's a lot 184 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: of chatter that he's gonna go in the first He's 185 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: going in the first, and that's what I believe is 186 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: gonna happen. He's going into first. He's going in the 187 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: first round. And the funny thing, when is this a 188 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: creation that's my question. I mean, I think it's it 189 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: seems like it's another creation um not another bad creation 190 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: ABC BBD. I think I think the big thing with 191 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes. When I talked to scouts, everyone to a 192 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: man man special talent, recognized the arm talent, gunslinger does 193 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: a lot of good things that you like. Man, if 194 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: you could just harness the talent, he could be something special. However, 195 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: when I pressed him on, hey, would you want to 196 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: hang hit your wagon to this guy as your franchise quarterback, 197 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: everyone is like, hold up, I don't know if I 198 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: want to take him as a first round pick. If 199 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: I could get him later and he's a developmental guy 200 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: and it's not that pressure to put him on the field, 201 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: absolutely I'll buying in. So the conversation is being driven 202 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: by somebody. However, I just don't know because I can't 203 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: find enough guys that stand up and say, hey, man, 204 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: I would take him as So you think this could 205 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: be Tom Savage. I mean, I just think he's certainly benefits. 206 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: I'm Savage was hot. I think it's a little better 207 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: than Tom Severn because I had guys who have given 208 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes second round great second round I'm comfortable like 209 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: I feel like he's a developmental guy. He's a year 210 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: two away from starting. The tom s everything. I never 211 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: could get anyone to tell me that, Hey, I think 212 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: this guy is a number one pick or whatever. I 213 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: think it's different. I believe what he's truly valued as 214 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 1: is the second round pick, which puts him as a 215 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: guy that is a year or two away from starting, 216 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: but eventually he could be a key contributor for a squad. 217 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: All right, let's uh, let's let's roll our interview with 218 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: Quincy Wilson. We come back from that. I want to 219 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: I want to hit you up on some pockets of 220 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: players here and some of the difficulty and sorting these 221 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: guys out. But first, this is Florida cornerback Quincy Wilson 222 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: who joined us. Well can move the sticks presented by 223 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: the U S and Marine Corps DJ Bucky joined by 224 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: one of the top cornerbacks in this draft class, Florida's 225 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 1: Quincy Wilson. Quincy was going on, Man, appreciate you coming 226 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: out here. You've got a little a little West Coast 227 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: swing here for for a Florida boy. Hunh, what's the 228 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: difference California Florida. Uh, I'd say it's not like mggy hot, 229 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: Like it's hot, but it'sn't like a cool breeze with it. Listen, 230 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: it's not like Florida. It's not like Florida has a 231 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: little different, a little different down there, all right, tell 232 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: you what hot? What a hot? What a hot? We 233 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: were talking about this on path of the draft, and uh, 234 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: we we've had we had Jamal Adams here, we had 235 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: to Davis White roll through here, those l s U dudes. 236 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: You're proud man when they mentioned the honey badge and 237 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: they mentioned when they talked about du prominently hashtag hashtag DVU. 238 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: But what we're saying, man, Florida, was what you guys 239 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: have put out the last couple of years. You guys 240 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: got a little man a little run at that title. Yeah, 241 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: we definitely do. I mean I feel like we are DVU. Uh, 242 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: the guys we put out in the past couple of years, 243 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 1: the past ten years. I mean it really speaks for yourself. 244 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 1: Who was the best guy. Let's go. Last year, I 245 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: put you on the spot in this room. So at 246 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: this time, see if I'm missing anybody here, you have 247 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: Vernon Hargraves. You had um count O'Neil. You had Marcus 248 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 1: May yourself tease table. You also had Pool who did 249 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: a nice job. Who's with the Falcons? I believe last 250 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: year right start for all those dvs all in one 251 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: roomy a who was the leader of the group, and 252 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: be who's the best player of the group. I'd say 253 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: the leader of the group was Marcus May. You know, 254 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: he's the oldest guy in there. He's the oldest guy 255 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: in then the most experience. Um So I felt like 256 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 1: he was the leader of the group. And I said 257 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: the best player in that group. I mean, it just 258 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: had to depend who you're asking if you if you 259 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 1: ask me, it's it's me. We asked teas we know 260 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: what Tash just. We got a lot of pride in 261 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: our game and a lot of confidence. So I feel 262 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: like I was the best out of that group. Okay, 263 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 1: So going back and think about those guys going and 264 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 1: playing the pros and hopefully have you been able to 265 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: speak to them when they come back and when you 266 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: all talked lately, what if they said, have been some 267 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: of the biggest things that you have to prepare for 268 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: going to Nash Football? I said, the biggest thing I 269 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: know talking with Vernon Hargrave's is Um, there's a lot 270 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: of classroom there's a lot of film watching. Uh, you 271 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: gotta just take that from the classroom sessions to the 272 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: field and you don't get as many reps, so you 273 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta make sure your own point. Um, just 274 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of film watching also because 275 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: you know, they don't lot of walkthroughs and it ain't 276 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: just not too much like running around with pads on 277 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: and stuff like college. So you gotta bit you gotta 278 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: become a real student of the game. Have you had 279 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: a chance to study any guys in the league at all? 280 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: Study what they do? Were trying maybe look at you 281 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: look bigger corners, find bigger corners like yourself to look at. Yeah, definitely. 282 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: I watched a lot of Xavier Rose and Patrick Piers. 283 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: You just you just said that happening. He just said 284 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: the magic world. What happens that we are comparison are 285 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 1: comparison for you when we studied you, Mr Rhodes, Xavier Ros, 286 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: I know if he'd be upsets the Florida State guy, 287 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: but you're good. So when you look at Xavier Rose, 288 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: what are some of the things that you look at 289 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 1: and why do you feel like y'all have similar games? Like? 290 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: What are things that you can learn from watching him? Um? 291 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: With him, I noticed that here were kind of like 292 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: the same size. Um. I like how he really bullies 293 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: receivers at the line and gives them trouble. Uh. I 294 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: like what he did Odell Beckham over the past year. 295 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: I got a real frustrate and I feel like I 296 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: frustrate receivers when they got to go against me for 297 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: a whole game. So, you know, I just feel like 298 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: that's why I compared to him the best. Are you 299 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: thinking about we? I was around the Baltimore Ravens. We 300 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: always said great corners. You know, obviously we have Chris 301 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: mc couch. We had a bunch of big time dudes. 302 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: We needed our corners to be able to tackle. This 303 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: seems like you take pride in that in your game 304 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: you're tackling. Yeah, definitely. UM just you know with my side, 305 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: they really expect me to do that also. UM So 306 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: I just every part of every part of my game, 307 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: I just really want to make sure I'm on points. 308 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: So there's no question marks best receiver you went up 309 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: against in your college career, not just this year. Best 310 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: guy you faced. I say, the best guy I faced 311 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: my college career is probably Calvin Ridley. Uh, real fast 312 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: and you could stop on a dime, you know. Yeah, 313 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: awesome running, Probably the best I've seen. But yeah, I 314 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: feel like he's probably the best I've been against. He 315 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: got some juice. He does have some. Now, you've had 316 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: a decorated career, so I want to ask you during 317 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: your time in Florida, what has been your greatest highlight. 318 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: The greatest highlight at Florida was probably my sophomore year 319 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: when we came back and beat Tennessee in the swamp. 320 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: It was crazy that That's the lottest I've ever heard 321 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: that stadium. Man. I mean everyone thought we were we 322 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: were down and out and just on that fourth down 323 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: when Will Great through that bar and just it was 324 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: like magic. It was it was like magic week. No 325 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 1: one was expecting that, but it was crazy in there 326 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 1: all right. From from your highlight, how about the greatest 327 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: hardship you've had to overcome in your life, could be 328 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: on the field, could be off the field. I said, 329 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: the greatest hardship was coming to Florida. I know, coming 330 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: in it was gonna be a lot of guys, and 331 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: a lot of good guys to compete with, like Lennon 332 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: Hargret Brown Pool, you know, Duke Dawson, Jalen We all 333 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: came in together, and I just felt like it was 334 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: a It was really like a I wouldn't say a struggle, 335 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: but it was like a mission every day to to 336 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: come in there and be on your A game so 337 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: that you can earn respect and earn playing time. So 338 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: I felt like that really made me into the player 339 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: I am of the day. Final think and looking around 340 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: your life, who would you say as your hero? I'd 341 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: say my hero is probably my parents. My dad the most. 342 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: Uh you know, he's been where I where I'm trying 343 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: to go, where I've been, So I really take heat 344 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: to what he says a lot. I trust him anything 345 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: I need to lean on him. So I feel like 346 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: he just got the tools to success. And I always 347 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: listened to him, and I feel like that's probably my hero. 348 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: Brag on him for a second. Here, tell tell those 349 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: are the listening we got people watching and listen who 350 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: your dad is and and you know you talk about 351 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: he's been in those shoes. Yeah, so my dad played 352 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: at Miami and uh, you know when Miami was high 353 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: and you're a Gator. Yeah, I don't even work in 354 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: the same house. That didn't even work. Yeah, I know that. 355 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: That shouldn't make said that. What is that? Yeah, you know, 356 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: he gave me a little hard time for that. But 357 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: you know he played back then with Warren Sapp and 358 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: ray Lewis, so yeah, so he had a lot of 359 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: respect in his day, so you know. And then he 360 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: went on to play for the Seahawks for a year, 361 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: So I feel like he's been there, done that, been there, 362 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: done that, got the T shirt. Yeah, that's that's a 363 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: good deal, man. I'll tell you what. Hey, we're fans 364 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: were rooting for you. We're excited to see where you go. Big, physical, tough, 365 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: athletic corners are hard to find, and you fit the 366 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: bill man, so we're excited to see where you're landing 367 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: to follow your career. Thank you, appreciate you all right 368 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: by Quincy Wilson. Man is he's serious all ball? I 369 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: do like that about him. I updated my top fifty, 370 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: which will be coming out here really the next day 371 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: or so, and move them up a couple of spots. 372 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: That's the cool thing about having these kids in You 373 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: get a chance to be around him. This guy just 374 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: he just felt like I was talking to a pro um. 375 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: I like being around the kid. I have him kind 376 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: of in that uh uh whereas he he's gonna come 377 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: in at twenty nine on my updated list, so kind 378 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: at the bottom of one. I think the unique thing 379 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: that we've had, we've had opportunity. I don't have Quincy 380 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: Wilson here. We had Tease Tabor and they will always 381 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: be linked together because they played together Florida. They both 382 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: are big corners, and uh, the league loves corners that 383 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: are over six foot. I think difference in their approach 384 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: or the way they go about things. Uh. Tease is 385 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: a little more uh self assured, Uh a little probably 386 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: borders lines are more than brash, brash cockey side, whereas 387 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: Quincy you definitely feel the confidence. He's just not as 388 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: out and open with it. I do believe both guys 389 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: kind of understand um how to approach it as pros. 390 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: And I think in Quincy's interview, when you talked about 391 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 1: that room with him and Tease Tabor, and then you 392 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: talk about porter Pool that went to Atlanta and also 393 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: Vernon Hargraves, it goes to Tampa I think it's something 394 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: to be said for all of those guys to be 395 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: able to put themselves in a situation with a bunch 396 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 1: of alpha's in that room, viling for maybe two or 397 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: three spots to get on the field, and today in 398 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 1: day I'd have to compete for playing time. I think 399 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: that's something that could benefit all of those guys, particularly Wilson. Yeah, 400 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: pretty good secondary there, all right? Uh, alright, a couple 401 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: of pockets of players. I want to hit you up on. 402 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: I just kind of see, uh what your thoughts are 403 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 1: on these. The first one is I took both these 404 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 1: guys are out of my top fifty. But I think 405 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: there I had said earlier, I thought third round for 406 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 1: these two. I think this still could go in the 407 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: second round. That's a two injured corners, right, Sidney Jones, 408 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: why the Achilles and Fabian Moreau who had the peck 409 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 1: injury for us? Like both those corners. First of all, 410 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: who who would you take first there? And you think 411 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: you agree with me? These guys can end up getting 412 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: back into the bottom of two. I think they're unique, 413 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: they're interesting. I would take Sidney Jones over morew I 414 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: think Sidney Jones is a better play here. In fact, 415 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: I was willing to go into limb and say to me, 416 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: Cindy Jones was the best corner in the draft in 417 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 1: terms of the way he played the game, the way 418 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: I trusted him when I watched the tape. I think 419 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: he's that good favorite. Moreau is someone that has grown 420 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: on me throughout this process, watching him at the East 421 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: West game. He's big, he's physical, he's athletic. He's pretty 422 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: sound and solid into things that he does. The one 423 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: thing that may trouble me a little bit about him, 424 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: I don't know how naturally is at playing the ball. 425 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 1: I think that's the kind of the separating factor between 426 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: he and Jones. But he's another good player, and I 427 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: think in the right system, I mean, I think he's 428 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: kind of scheme friendly. I think he'd be a solid 429 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 1: number two. I don't know if he's a number one corner, 430 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: but I think he's a solid starter opposite someone that's 431 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: a pretty dominant corner. Okay, cool, um, good stuff. The 432 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: uh A couple of guys here. This is a pocket 433 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 1: of players that I think is really interesting. Two of 434 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: them outside my top fifty, and then had two of 435 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: them back up in there. Um. First one that I 436 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,200 Speaker 1: just did. I finished him Ties Bowser. He's a good 437 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: player from Houston. So you've got these edge guys here 438 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,360 Speaker 1: kind of just look at this clump here. You've got 439 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: Tias t J. Watt, So I'll give you time here 440 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: to get this down. T J. Watt, Tias Bowser. Um, 441 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: you've got uh, Tim Williams from Alabama. You've got Jordan 442 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: Willis from Kansas State. So those four guys right then, 443 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you two more. Um, you've got Derek 444 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: Rivers from Youngstown State and Terrell Basham from Ohio. Like 445 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: I gave those guys almost all identical grades now the 446 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: first all but Rivers in Basham are in my top fifty. Um. 447 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: Kind of, so they're all kind of parked in there together. 448 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: I think that's an interesting clump to sort out. I 449 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: think they're all really think football players think they are 450 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: very very interesting. And I'm as I'm looking at I 451 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 1: think it depends on what do you value more. If 452 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: I had to go in terms of a pure pass rusher, 453 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: I would probably go Williams first, Watson second. Uh. I 454 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: like Rivers as a rusher a little bit or he 455 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: em Bowser to me some Yeah, I'll tell you what. 456 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: Bowser can cover his butt off. Man. You can put 457 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: him out over the slot, launch him running cover. That's 458 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: kind of his super He's like the poor man's Hassan Reddick. 459 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: Hassan Reddick is gonna go on the top twenty. I 460 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 1: think if you can come back and get this guy, yeah, Bowser, 461 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: I think I think he's gonna go on the second man. 462 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 1: You know, here's a tough thing with Willis. So Willis 463 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: athleticism at the combine. I didn't see that altracking seeds 464 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: what you see on tape, because when I see you 465 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: on what I wrote down on my notes on tape, 466 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: straight line power player wins with effort, energy stuff just 467 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: kind of just kind of wears you down over the 468 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: course of the game. He just kind of grinds it 469 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: out and he gets sacks because he just outworks the 470 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: kind of opposition. I don't see him as a natural 471 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 1: guy in terms of like hands and all of that 472 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: other stuff. I just don't think it Bashm. I think 473 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: he's just a solid all around player. I mean, I 474 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: don't have anything this uh, super negative on him. I 475 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 1: thought he was pretty solid at Senior Bowl, just kind 476 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: of works kind of a workman like guy. I think 477 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: those other guys that we talked at the top there 478 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: splash plays are sexy than those other guys. And sometimes 479 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: they'll still splash plays translate into the next level. All right, 480 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: here's the next wave I've got for you. Here you 481 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: ready for this one? Safe? Some safety. So this is 482 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: out of the top fifty. Now some of these guys 483 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: may end up going on the top fifty. I don't know, 484 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: but this is I have these kind of like bottom 485 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: really kind of on the borderline, bottom two, top three 486 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: and that in that range, maybe more so three with 487 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: the way I have these grades. So Marcus May from Florida, 488 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,479 Speaker 1: Eddie Jackson coming off the injury from Alabama though he's 489 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: supposed to be healthy. Um, Justin Evans from Texas and 490 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 1: m who was much better last season this year, I 491 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,919 Speaker 1: believe he missed Tony tackle so that was him, uh, 492 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: and then tedrich Thompson is a guy I like from Colorado. 493 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: Not as much lover on the streets when you talk 494 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: to teams. Um, I believe he's had some concussions. That's 495 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: a little bit of a concern they're health wise. But 496 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: so that clump of safeties I kind of have those 497 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: guys as third round guys, and I think I think 498 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: it comes down to style and what you're really looking forward. 499 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 1: To me, Evans is a hitter, a striker, um, he 500 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: has some ball skills when he's on his game. I 501 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: believe he's the guy that could be a Tier one player. Uh. 502 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: Eddie Jackson is a former corner turn safety. You like 503 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: di versatility that's going to help him. Very similar to 504 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: Sean Davis to me for coming out like Mark may Is. Look, 505 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: they talked about this guy being the leader when Christy 506 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: Wilson here talked about and being the leader in the 507 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: back end. I just think he's kind of like that 508 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: cerebral playmaker who just understands how to uh play that 509 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,239 Speaker 1: traffic cop in the back and make sure everyone has 510 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 1: lined up, make the plays that are there to be made, 511 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: but he kind of controls action. And then Thompson is 512 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: someone who I think is underrated in this process, but 513 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: every time you looked at Colorado play, he shows up. 514 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: And so all of those guys to me would carry 515 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: similar grades. It's a matter of where you are in 516 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: terms of your team and what hole you're looking to plug, 517 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: how you're stacked that board, but they are very similarly 518 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: greater players, good players. I think a little something different 519 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: through something different day too. All right, now, just give me, 520 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: can you just give me one name in this next 521 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: stack that you would pluck out here? Um? Or actually 522 00:22:58,119 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: give me, give me give me two names here. But 523 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: here's what I've gotten. This is the defensive tackles outside 524 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: my top fifty. So the highest rated guys that have 525 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: outside of my top fifty. Malik McDowell, who some people 526 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: think he's a top twenty player. Um, I had just 527 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: he wasn't. He didn't do it for me. Just with 528 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: effort and production this year kind of took took it 529 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 1: off there. Malik McDowell, Dalvin Tomlinson from Alabama, Caleb Brantley 530 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: from Florida, another guy who some people really like. Um, 531 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: and then um uh, Montravius Adams from Auburn. How about 532 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: just that group right there. I would take Adams and 533 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: Thomason H. Adams for the fact that he is a rock, big, 534 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: physical force at the point of attack. I think it's 535 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: a senior bowl. He showed he could be a little 536 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: destructive on the inside. I like his hand skills. I 537 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: think he'd be a very good run player, Thomasinson certified 538 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: Animal Inside. In fact, there were some they were at 539 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: the pro day of Alabama. They talked about this guy 540 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: showed maybe more athleticism to the more highly regarded Jonathan Allen. 541 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 1: Like his leverage. I think he's a former high school wrestler, accolades. 542 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,120 Speaker 1: I just think those guys have a tendency to play 543 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 1: for a long time in the league. I like Thomason 544 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: and Adams uh McDowell. I like the talent. I don't 545 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: like what I've heard in terms of the football character. 546 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 1: And Brandley is fine. He just doesn't kind of charge 547 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: me up when I look at him on tape. All right, now, 548 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: here's I've got last stack here. This is the last one. 549 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: We'll do some some linebackers off the ball. Linebackers Zack Cunningham, 550 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: Duke Riley, Rae Kwon McMillan from Ohio State, Anthony Walker 551 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: from Northwestern, and alex Anzeloni from Florida. So those those 552 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: five guys there, that's a clump. I have all all 553 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: similarly greaded. Now again, Bucky, some people have Zack Cunningham 554 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: is a top twenty player. He's not in my top fifty. 555 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: I viewed him. Moore is kind of a third round 556 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: type player. Um So I went back, This is the 557 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: this is the good thing. It's like, you know, you're 558 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: in the room, you always have checks and balances. You're 559 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: not gonna get every You're not gonna get every guy, right, 560 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: So that's why you have the room to kind of 561 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: balance you out. Maybe just weren't seeing it that day, 562 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: but you're the only You're the lone wolf. So then 563 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 1: what happens. Everybody else in the room likes a player, 564 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: So you go, Okay, I'm gonna do some more work 565 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: and see if I'm messed up. And it's either gonna 566 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: change your mind or it's gonna strengthen your conviction. So 567 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,360 Speaker 1: I went back and watched three more games on Cunningham. 568 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: So I've already done. I think I've done seven games 569 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: on this guy because I keep hearing that people that 570 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: really like him. Um so this is what I came with. 571 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 1: I watched him in the All Bring Game, which is 572 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: a good game for him, the Old Miss game. He 573 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: covered Ingram a little bit a little bit, so to me, 574 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: I saw some of the cover skills that could get 575 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: people excited about kind of that new wave linebacker, right, 576 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: you want to be able to run and cover. But 577 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: the same issues that I had previously kept popping up. 578 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: Miss tackles too high, he's playing old in the old 579 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 1: Miss game, two run throughs at the quarterback at that 580 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: young freshman Patterson to clean runners didn't get a glove 581 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: on him. Um, So a lot of those same things 582 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: came up. So I ended up coming out and say, look, 583 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: I get it, he's probably gonna go away higher than 584 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: I think. But I've watched seven games and I'm this 585 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: is that's what I think he is. So I'm staying. 586 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I have a similar thing to me. I 587 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: heard so much about him before I started plugging in 588 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: the tape, and I wanted to see a super athlete 589 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: based on how he tested in those things. But I 590 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 1: didn't see that. I felt like he was a little 591 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,959 Speaker 1: slow to pull the trigger. I didn't think I never 592 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: saw him. I saw him one time really chest somebody 593 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 1: up and really smack somebody. Yeah, a lot of reaching ground. 594 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: I just didn't think that he When you see Ruben 595 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: Foster play, it's right now, it's a car crash. I 596 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: never saw that physicality, toughness and suddenness from Cunningham. I 597 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: see the versatility. I see where people could fall in 598 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 1: love with the fact that maybe he could play multiple spots, 599 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: he can cover. I I give him that, and that's 600 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: a good quality to have. I just don't know. To me, 601 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: I kind of like gritty, physical, hard nosed players. He 602 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 1: didn't strike me as that good at what he does, avantable, 603 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: just not necessarily my kind of guy. I like Riley 604 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 1: from L. S U. I think he gets the new 605 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: I love his instincts, awareness, plays fast, plays like his 606 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: hair is on fire. I like him. Ricky McMillan is solid. 607 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: I can't say that I'm fired up necessarily about him. Uh. 608 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: He's good, but I don't think there's anything when I 609 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 1: would tested better than I thought. I didn't think he 610 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: was run I look at the tape. I don't I 611 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: don't see like a stood or star. I just did 612 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: this Anthony Walker from Northwestern I had not done him now. 613 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: I guess he'd had some injuries coming Jack the machine, 614 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: very productive, thick, square build. I mean, he's got some range. 615 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 1: He's a little bit stiff, but um you know, and tough, 616 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: tough kid. Anzalone. He's the one that stood out for 617 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: me and This is why he still he still he 618 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: stood out for me, not only like watching table, when 619 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: I watched him at the Senior Bowl. He has some snap, 620 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: crackle pop to him in terms of like he he 621 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 1: he brings it a little bit. He's also a better 622 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: athlete on the field. He reminds me Kiko Alonso. Nice, 623 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: nice comparison. Um, he has more to it than I 624 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 1: think people give him credit for one. I don't know 625 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: if it's the long hair of the locks. At the 626 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, he was one of the guys that stood up, 627 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: kind of just stood out to me making plays, threw 628 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: it in there, a little bit of not on seven period, 629 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: kind of like his toughness during Yeah, he and Duke 630 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: Riley to me, would be the guys that I'll be like, 631 00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: look if I can take these two with me, I'm 632 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 1: taking and putting them on my team. All right, Cool, 633 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: Well we could do this for every position. Man, We 634 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: got another interview we need to roll though. We've got 635 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: l s U wide receiver Malachi dupri really a really 636 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: fascinating kid to talk to. Here's our here's our chat 637 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: with him. We've got a very interesting wide receiver prospect 638 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: and to join us right now from l s U. 639 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: Uh got this pro day coming up. Malachai dupri is 640 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: going to join us here, and I know, uh, I know, Malachi. 641 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: This is a guy Bucky you know, going back to 642 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: high school, going all the way back the opening to 643 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 1: Amlichi was one of the guys that came through. So 644 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: it's it's funny just sit here and talk to him 645 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: and watch him all growing up. How you doing, Malkai? 646 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, man, thank you all for having 647 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: me all right. Now, you've got your pro day coming 648 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 1: up on Wednesday, So my first question is you don't 649 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: have really a senior quarterback out there, So who you 650 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: got thrown passes to you at the pro day? Got 651 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: Matt Flint throwing some me. Um, you know, it's a 652 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: great thing having an NFL veteran guy who's been there 653 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: and done it before. So um, you know, it's a 654 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: guy we've been getting a lot of great work with 655 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: and um you know, it's awesome feeling having someone who's 656 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: just been in again for as long as he has, 657 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: with the knowledge that he's given us. And to that point, 658 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: I mean, there's been a lot of NFL receivers that 659 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: have come out of the room that you have spent 660 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 1: time in Odell, Jarvis some of the other guys. What 661 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: have you learned from their careers in the National Football 662 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: League that you can take and kind of use to 663 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: help you be a better prom alright, well, specifically O'Dell 664 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: and Jarvis. You know, we're all great friends. Um, going 665 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: back to high school. You know, Odell and I played 666 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: in the same district. Um, I was a freshman when 667 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: he was a senior in high school and when I 668 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: was making my transition from high school to college. They're 669 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: making a transition from college to the NFL, and UM, 670 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: you know I've been there. Taking the knowledge is as 671 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: long as I ken from both of those guys, and 672 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: to see what they're doing on the NFL is uh, 673 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: you know, it's a great thing. And it also gives 674 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: me a tremendous amount of confidence in my ability to 675 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 1: make transition from college in the NFL. Also because you know, um, 676 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,719 Speaker 1: I've got a lot of work with them. I've been 677 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: working with those guys for um numerous years now, So 678 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: you know, it's just a great thing to come from 679 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: the same school that they have and and also be 680 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: really good friends with them and also have uh you 681 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: know them there for me too, you know, soaking the 682 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: knowledge from them. But Bucky talked about the receiver tradition there, 683 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: and you just mentioned some big time NFL players also 684 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: ls you know, for the corners and the dbs that 685 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: they've produced. Going up against the guy like you Davious 686 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: White during your college career in practice and and being 687 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: out there with the Jamal Adams, how has that helped 688 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: refine your skills being able to go up against top 689 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: notch coverage on a daily basis, right well, you know, 690 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: coming to l s U, I knew that's what that's 691 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: what I was coming here for to, you know, practice 692 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: against great guys and have great competition day in and 693 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: day out, not just on Saturday's planting at SEC. So, 694 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: you know, playing against your Davious White. And you know, 695 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: Jamal and I have been really good friends since high 696 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: school and we came in together with a dream and 697 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: aspirations of playing NFL one day. So we pushed each 698 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: other every day we stepped on that field to be 699 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: the best week possibly can and um, you know it 700 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: paid off and I definitely loved working against those guys 701 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: every every day. They were great. In my opinion, there 702 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: two of the best in the draft. So, um, you know, 703 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: we competed. Every day they win, somebody win something. It 704 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,040 Speaker 1: just was. It was great battles and you know, the 705 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: end of the day, Um, you know, I'm excited. I'm 706 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 1: excited to see all of our journeys and all the 707 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: hard work payoff. You know, It's pretty interesting, Malay, because 708 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: you're a big time recruiting When you look at the 709 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: numbers on paper, they would say, oh, he didn't necessarily 710 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: have a great career, but and looking at your size 711 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: and your skill set, why are you a guy that 712 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: may have better success as a pro than you had 713 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: as a collegian. Right. Um, you know, at the end 714 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: of the day, I would say, we we had so 715 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: much talent around our team offensively, you know, from the 716 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: receiver position. Um, you know, a guy Travian Durrell was 717 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: going to the NFL. Also this year. We had guys 718 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: that also you know, contributed through the passing game over 719 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: the years with me. Um, you know, we had such 720 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: a great backfield with Leonard and Darius, guys in the 721 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: in the in the long list of guys that goes 722 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: on and on. So we had playmakers first and foremost 723 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: all around the board. Um, people may say, y'all know 724 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: you will run first team, you had quarterback issues. At 725 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: the end of the day, you know, we had so 726 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: much talent on his team, and UM, you know, I'm great. 727 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm right for the career that I've had an l 728 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: s U. I'm grateful for the time I've spent here 729 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: and all the relationships I've built. Um. But at the 730 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: end of the day, I feel like, you know, my 731 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: game will will transition and translate so well to the NFL. 732 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: I feel like, first and foremost very versatile for a 733 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: guy that six three, we can play inside and outside. Um, 734 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: you know, I played in a pro style offense. A 735 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: lot of these guys in the draft, in my opinion, 736 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: played offenses that were, um, you know, more spread and 737 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: didn't really give them the knowledge and the mindset that 738 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 1: they need moving for into the NFL to to help 739 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: their game translate immediately. And I feel like moving forward, UM, 740 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: you know, the knowledge that I've learned and I've taken 741 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: this in my time at the l s U, UM 742 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: will will help me move forward and be an impact 743 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: right away. A couple of things that jump out just 744 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: sitting here listen to you and talking to you for 745 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: the first time. Number one year in credibly intelligent and 746 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: number two you've got a great attitude. But at some 747 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: point time during this last year it had to be 748 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 1: a period of time. Did you had to get frustrated 749 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: at some point in time, didn't you with with the 750 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: with the lack of opportunities that you had. Um, Well, 751 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: you know, any playmaker, UM, I don't care your offensive defensive. 752 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: You want to make plays. And in my mind, you know, 753 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: in my career here, at the end of the day, 754 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: I just wanted um us to win football games. And 755 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: um sometimes it will be more frustrating when we didn't 756 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: win games, UM more than me not getting the ball 757 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,239 Speaker 1: in my hands, because at the end of the day, 758 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: I was here to play football and win football games, 759 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: not you know, be a ball. But at the end 760 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 1: of the day, as a receiver, we want the ball 761 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,600 Speaker 1: in our hands. And definitely at times I would have 762 00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 1: wanted the ball in my hands more than others. But UM, 763 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: you know that's one thing that I can't look back on. 764 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: I just tried to make the opportunity UM when I 765 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 1: when I had a chance. So UM, I feel like 766 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: moving forward into a past heavy league. My limited opportunities 767 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: here will only help me, um, much much more when 768 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: I get in the fell and have more opportunities when 769 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: the ball is in there more and I definitely will 770 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: make the best of those. And um, you know, I'm 771 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: very excited moving forward. I don't want to dwell on 772 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: the pass and you know my frustrations at L. S U. 773 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: I just want to move forward and be the best 774 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: football player can be and I work hard every day 775 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: to do that. Okay, if there was one thing that 776 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: you would say that you need to work on before 777 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: you get into the National Football League, what would you 778 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: say that area of weaknesses? Mm hmm, I would just 779 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 1: probably say my my um, my run after the catch. 780 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 1: Definitely my run after the catch. You know, sometimes I 781 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 1: feel like, um, you know, I got tackled sometimes I 782 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: shouldn't have. But you know, for the most part, um, 783 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: just coming from a from a school like L. S. Shoe, 784 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: we were very competitive and we worked hard every day 785 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: and everything and all the little things. You know. I 786 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: was fortunate in my time here to be coached by 787 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,280 Speaker 1: a lot of NFL guys and a lot of NFL coaches, 788 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: and we played against a lot of guys that made 789 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: transitions to the NFL and are doing great things there. 790 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: So with my time here I was I was around 791 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: guys that coaching the NFL and play are playing NFL currently, 792 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: so I got to see, um, you know, the things 793 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: that they needed to work on and how it translated 794 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: to the NFL. So I would just probably say my 795 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: run after the catch for sure for one thing. Alright, 796 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: back listen with the three h is here. Alright. We 797 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: we do ask these questions every prospect we've had on 798 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: this year, So three questions we got. They all have 799 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,240 Speaker 1: a theme here. The first one is what's the greatest 800 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: highlight of your college career? Greatest highlight of my college 801 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: career year? Mm hmmm. I would just say, um, the 802 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,800 Speaker 1: relationships that I've built with my teammates and my friends 803 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: that that will have to last a lifetime. You know, 804 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,439 Speaker 1: football is great and we all appreciate and it's done 805 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: great things for me. But at the end of the day, 806 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: you know, I love the friendships and relationships that I've 807 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 1: built with my brothers and um, you know, winning football 808 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: games with them. Obviously, every football game that I want 809 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: was very important to me. I'm a winner. That's what 810 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: I enjoyed doing. Coming back from you mentioned my high school. 811 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,720 Speaker 1: You know, I only lost like maybe two high school 812 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: football games my whole career. By the way, you played 813 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 1: with Duke, right, Duke Raley was on that team high 814 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 1: school team. Who else? Who else was on your high 815 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: school team and went on and played Division one. Dylan 816 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,879 Speaker 1: Gordon came to l s U. Now he's the Philadelphia ego. 817 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: He played with US here and he was on the 818 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: high school team. And um, the list goes on and on. 819 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: Kenny Young, that's at U c l A right now, 820 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: Terence Um, Terence Alexander, he plays for Stanford. Right now, 821 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: I'm gonn Trail with guards at Oregon right now. Um, 822 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I played with a bunch of 823 00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 1: guys and you know it's just coming from Curtis, So 824 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: that's kind of expected for those listening. By the way, 825 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: this is John Curtis High School there in Louisiana. Joe 826 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 1: McKnight famously went, they played there. There's been a bevy 827 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: of NFL guys that have come through there. So you 828 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: play with some big time dude, it's no question, definite. 829 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: So now I want to ask you what has been 830 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 1: the biggest hardship that you had to endure during your 831 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: time as a player at ellaship the biggest hardship, I'll 832 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: probably say the biggest hardship for myself, and I would 833 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: say for most of the guys here would be the 834 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: talent that we had and sometimes we had unexpected losses 835 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: and um, you know the one thing I would say 836 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: about that that was more frustrating than others. I know, 837 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: we worked very very hard, we pushed each other, um, 838 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: but sometimes it just seemed like we couldn't get it 839 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,240 Speaker 1: together in football games. Um, and put that talent together, 840 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 1: because in my opinion, we had one of the most 841 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: if not the most tund of the team in the country. UM. 842 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 1: And you can look across the board offensively and defensively 843 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: from position and position and UM, I mean, you know, 844 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: it would be hard to disagree with me, um, whether 845 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: you're a fan of any other school. But I would 846 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 1: probably say the biggest hardship was losing because I'm I'm 847 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: such a competitor and I'm such a winner, and we've 848 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: worked very hard, so I feel like, you know, we 849 00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 1: optimize our time and work outs in practice and then 850 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,400 Speaker 1: doing extra um. So sometimes that um, it just seemed 851 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: like we couldn't put it together on the field on 852 00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: Saturdays was frustrating. All Right, who's your hero? My hero? 853 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: M hmm. I would probably say my dad, just because, um, 854 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't be here today if it wasn't 855 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: for him, and and and all the things that he's 856 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: still to me as a person as a man, and um, 857 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 1: you know, I'm very appreciative for him and all the 858 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: things and all life lessons that he's taught me. Um, 859 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: So definitely my father. Last last question I have for you, 860 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,399 Speaker 1: and that's I'm looking behind you. It looks like there's 861 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: a baseball bat upon What is up there? Is that 862 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,839 Speaker 1: a baseball bat? What is that up there? Oh? Yeah, 863 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 1: it is a mini baseball bat? Hedn't pull that thing down. 864 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 1: I want to see that thing. Those headphones off for 865 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: a second. Pull that pull that bat down? Here? Okay, 866 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 1: here we go, all right, put that. So is this 867 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: is this Mruci bat here? What? Yes? It is? It is? 868 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: It is Amruci back. So you must know about Mr 869 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, come on now. So for those listen that 870 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: don't know the history Rucci batts. If you have kids 871 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 1: that play sports, you play baseball, you know about the 872 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: Maruchi brand. But what I guess probably a lot of 873 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 1: people don't know is what the what's what's his day 874 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 1: job there? Why don't you explain to the folks about 875 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 1: that one? Okay, So Jack Marucci, he's the founder and 876 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: the owner of Maruchi Back Company. Um. I think it's 877 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: a number one bad company in the world right now 878 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: MLBU Literal League. All of that is sur past Louisville slugger. Um. 879 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 1: But the founder and creative this is our athletic trainer 880 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 1: and his day job is training taping ankles. Obviously he 881 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be here doing that. You can you 882 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: can see, um. But that's just a testament of the 883 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 1: type of person he is. And you know, he didn't 884 00:38:58,120 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 1: let this change his life. He's doing what he loves 885 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: and you know it's all sort of heat. Um. I 886 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: think the story goes that he made a bat one 887 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: day for his son because the bat needed to be 888 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: one in shorter or longer for his son, and none 889 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 1: of the bad companies made that bat specifically, um the 890 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 1: length that his son was comfortable hitting with. So um, 891 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: Jack went in his backyard one day and made the 892 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: back back that his son was comfortable hitting with. And 893 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 1: somehow it was like Todd was it Todd Walker was 894 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,200 Speaker 1: his first guy. He was some It was an L 895 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 1: s U player that he did a bat for and 896 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 1: then it caught fire and then everybody wanted I know MLB, 897 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 1: I forgot what guy was that used at first, but 898 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: it was like a you know, definitely was a he 899 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 1: was an all star guy. I know Pool, I think 900 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: Post definitely, but so um one of those guys in 901 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 1: the MLB that Wall Stars. They'd used his bat and 902 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 1: from there it took off and now it's the number 903 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,080 Speaker 1: one bad company in the world and he's still here. 904 00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 1: That's our athletic. I know my son, he's got he's 905 00:39:54,400 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 1: got in my pocket. Hart. Hey Malich, I did I 906 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,879 Speaker 1: appreciate you pulling that bad off the shelf. Man, it's 907 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: great to visit with you. Hey, We're excited to see 908 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 1: where you end up going. Uh Man, I think we 909 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: both have said it. We think you're gonna be even 910 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: a better pro than you were in college. You' gonna 911 00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,840 Speaker 1: get opportunities and you're gonna make the most of them. Man, 912 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 1: thanks for taking the time with us here today. Thank you, 913 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: Thank you all for having me. Great eyes notice and 914 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: this I did appreciate. You have a going alright, Bucky 915 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 1: Malachi depriy it man. You talk about what what a 916 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 1: smart kid? I mean, just something you're talking to a 917 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,520 Speaker 1: student body president there. Very insightful. Um really understands he 918 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: gets it. Um. He's very balanced, not a one dimensional player. 919 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 1: I just kind of like how he is. But I 920 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,800 Speaker 1: do believe he has some stuff to prove, and you 921 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 1: have to prove that at the next level. He did 922 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: underachieve based on his talent. Some of that would be 923 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: to the quarterback, but when he had those opportunities, you 924 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: would like to think that a five star guy, guy 925 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: who wanted to stay into long triple and high jump 926 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 1: would be a dominant player. Sometimes will show that I 927 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: didn't see more of it on tape. So when he 928 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 1: gets into minicamp and O t s and those things, 929 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,439 Speaker 1: I want to see him begin to dominate his level 930 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,280 Speaker 1: those rookies, and then when he gets into the preseason, 931 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: I want to see if he can splash because he 932 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,960 Speaker 1: should be got to complay. Bucky, you know you need 933 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 1: to do what what? What? What do I need? You 934 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,919 Speaker 1: need to elevate your underwear game to the next level 935 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 1: with me, Andy's that's what you need to do. Now. 936 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: I know you don't look around mos side of the 937 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 1: locker in the locker room. But I think my underwear 938 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 1: game is pretty nice. It's not nice enough, Bucky, because 939 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,840 Speaker 1: we gotta go me and me and man, this is 940 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 1: this is some soft, feel good Undy's and he gets 941 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: delivered straight to your door. Oh I like that, you 942 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 1: know me. Undy's are designed in l A, made from 943 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,800 Speaker 1: Saintable stores, micromodal at fabric three times off today, three times, 944 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,240 Speaker 1: three times, three times. It's crazy Meundy soft than soft, 945 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: lux andres come in and ever changing selection of classic colors, 946 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,880 Speaker 1: bowl cheats, and adventurous patterns. Well, adventurous patterns. I mean 947 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,800 Speaker 1: sometimes you gotta have a little sizzle. Okay, So you 948 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 1: can tailor your Undy's to your own personal style. I 949 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 1: guess what. You can save time and money each month 950 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 1: because it's a monthly subscription buck. Oh but if you're 951 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: not ready for a subscription, that's okay. You can still 952 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,239 Speaker 1: say because meat Andy's is offering you twenty off your 953 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 1: first pair. Just use our special you are il meet 954 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 1: dys dot com slash NFL seventeen and get off your 955 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 1: first pair. Hold up, you gonna get I mean everybody 956 00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,359 Speaker 1: was again meds dot com slash NFL. Absolutely, you get 957 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,759 Speaker 1: off right, go ahead, revamp your underwear drawer. You deserve it. 958 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 1: Once again. Meet Andy's dot com slash NFL seventeen meds 959 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:35,399 Speaker 1: dot com slash NFL sponsors here. Oh that's big, that's big. 960 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,719 Speaker 1: They they're there. We looked him up. Their headquarters are 961 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,359 Speaker 1: like two miles from where we are right now. Are 962 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: they really like to have a great name? Maybe should 963 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 1: go do a tour? That's what I'm saying, walk away 964 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 1: with some goodies right exactly. They got a big old 965 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 1: billboard in Venice. Yeah, they're doing some big I think 966 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:51,759 Speaker 1: we changed the name to the show to me move 967 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 1: the sticks. I think we go all in. Yes, get 968 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,960 Speaker 1: some equity going. Yeah, moved to sticks presented by Marines. 969 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,239 Speaker 1: It's a lot of oh got Marines underwear. This is 970 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: the best commentation ever. All right, Hey, Bucky fun chat today. 971 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,000 Speaker 1: I got a lot in a couple of interviews. Talked 972 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 1: about some pockets of players, Brian Kelly. Interesting situation there 973 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,800 Speaker 1: with Deshaun Kaiser, some of his comments. We've got some 974 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes discussion in there. We'll have a little more 975 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 1: team centric chat here coming up on our next podcast. 976 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,759 Speaker 1: Before we go. We got it. We gotta we gotta 977 00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,640 Speaker 1: give Bucky a little shout out here. Where are you 978 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: watching the game tonight? Oh? I forgot tar heels, same 979 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: as last year, No different. I'd be a different spot. Becauka, 980 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 1: my son is baseball practice, So I actually won't have 981 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 1: an opportunity to it. Maybe I'll watch it on the app. 982 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 1: Maybe not. Maybe I'll just let the twitterverse tell me 983 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,359 Speaker 1: how matar heels do. But I won't watch the roll 984 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: of the dice. That's what are you? That's how watching 985 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 1: the ducky. I just kind of let the people tell 986 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,919 Speaker 1: me what I'll show it for the last two minutes. 987 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 1: All that good to go? All right, let me read 988 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 1: some of these reviews we're getting on iTunes. So we've 989 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 1: got some reviews coming in on iTunes. We've been you 990 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 1: got We've reached out to everybody and said, please help 991 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 1: us out. You guys have done it. We got a 992 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 1: bunch of reviews, and I said, don't do us on 993 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,280 Speaker 1: the a t N account, on the Round the NFL account, 994 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 1: but on our reviews. If you want to maybe take 995 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 1: a shot at the Round the NFL guys, go ahead. 996 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,839 Speaker 1: So this this cold arms was was taken seriously. Here 997 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,439 Speaker 1: here's one review from Wendy to nine three. After listening 998 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 1: to Around the NFL, I lost all hope for football podcasts, 999 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 1: But then I discovered this one. DJ and b B 1000 00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,839 Speaker 1: talk like they're old friends who would hang out even 1001 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,319 Speaker 1: if they didn't do this. Uh, let's see. It makes 1002 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 1: you feel like you're a fly inside the wall of 1003 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,360 Speaker 1: a scouting room. I try to catch every episode, and 1004 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,600 Speaker 1: most importantly, it makes up for a t l s 1005 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 1: in nine squawking. Oh that's strong one there. Let's see here, 1006 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 1: let me see it because there was a couple of 1007 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 1: other shots here. Let's see what else is that from 1008 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 1: our Juno Go Pats Go. Yeah, it might be our 1009 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,839 Speaker 1: Juno mar Juna set up all these accounts. Uh, let's see. Oh, 1010 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,399 Speaker 1: best football podcast out there. This is from Cleo Lemon. 1011 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,080 Speaker 1: I'm guessing it's not really clear Lemon. Two guys that 1012 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 1: have been there and done that. Great inside look at 1013 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,280 Speaker 1: scouting from knowledgeable people, real info and expert analysis, unlike 1014 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 1: what you hear from Dan Hanzers in the I said 1015 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 1: the hacks on the Around the NFL podcast, and he 1016 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: got serious in here real quick. Um. Yeah, so anyways, 1017 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 1: we got it. We got a lot of nice things 1018 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 1: said about us on our reviews, and I'm gonna honest 1019 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,560 Speaker 1: with the folks. Uh, they know that that the around 1020 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,680 Speaker 1: the NFL guys have have called for this war and 1021 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 1: our troops are up for the fight. That's good because 1022 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 1: they're loyal. Like we've said, they have a loyal army. Hey, 1023 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 1: we we got we got some. We got some troops 1024 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:28,360 Speaker 1: on our side like the movie three hundred. Yeah, we 1025 00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: have three hundred loyal folks. That's right, Yeah, we'll do 1026 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 1: let's do this for Sparta. Boys? Are women follow us 1027 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,160 Speaker 1: out there? What's up? Are you? Erk? CIEs? How did 1028 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 1: this whole? You know? Yeah? That's a buck? Yeah, I 1029 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,279 Speaker 1: think okay, all right, Hey, that's gonna do it for 1030 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 1: us today, fun episode buck, We've got a run. We 1031 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 1: gotta go do a little Path to the Draft and 1032 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 1: catch at uh every day at six Eastern. Also Mock 1033 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,759 Speaker 1: Draft Live. New show cranks up on Tuesday. Check that 1034 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,520 Speaker 1: out and that is what time is that there? And 1035 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,440 Speaker 1: anybody know back there? I think it's after Path to 1036 00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:58,800 Speaker 1: the Draft. I don't know. I used to work on 1037 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 1: that show with you guys, not anymore. Uh, yeah, you've 1038 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: been elevated. I don't know it comes on look, look 1039 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:04,960 Speaker 1: it up, it comes up on two. Say we'll tweet 1040 00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,000 Speaker 1: it out. That's gonna do it for us. Here today 1041 00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,520 Speaker 1: on Move the Sticks, presented by the US Marine Corps 1042 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 1: and mean dot Com. Thanks for downloading Move the Sticks 1043 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:20,800 Speaker 1: with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. For more, go to 1044 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 1: NFL dot com Slash Podcasts