WEBVTT - Bears vs. Raiders Game Preview Week 7 | Bears, etc. Podcast 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.679 Right justin middle of the field forty five to fifteen. 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:06.000 Bring Russ in front of a leading Lions in his way. 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:10.920 I am Jeff Jonahyack. Liz Is on Dotty God host. 0:00:12.000 --> 0:00:13.800 What was like playing for Coachy Bogdom. 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:16.560 I don't want to answer any questions like that. Sixty 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:17.439 one yards? 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:26.720 What's Sunday stroll for? Justin Field? Ye Bears, et cetera 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:32.279 with the voices of the Chicago Bears Jeff Jonyac. All 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:34.479 right on to another matchup at Sodier Field with the 0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:37.680 Las Vegas Raiders coming up on Sunday on noon kickoff 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:40.400 at Sojier Field. Welcome into another version of the Bears 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:43.040 et Cetera podcast, Episode twenty six with Tom There, the 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:46.880 Super Bowl winning Bears guard. I'm Jeff Jonahac from HALLI Songs. 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:49.080 We get you set for the breakdown of the Bears 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.600 and Vegas Raiders coming up. Our guest is former NFL 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:55.720 executive Amy Trask, the former CEO of the Raiders, now 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:58.960 of CBS Sports and has had a great career post 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:03.920 football on television as an analyst and all sorts of things. 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:06.920 One of the most powerful women in the NFL while 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:08.800 she was in there with al Davis and the crew 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:11.959 and Tom. That's a rare visit from the Raiders. I 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:14.200 think this is only the eighth time at Soldier Field, 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:17.160 so that series started back in nineteen seventy two. But 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:20.680 the history of that organization is such that it's always 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:23.520 a fun arrival when you get one of those teams 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:26.040 that just carry with it a great tradition of winning 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:29.119 under the Hall of Famer Al Davis Lade al Davis 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:31.920 and now known as the Vegas Raiders that I still 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:35.080 haven't gotten used to, but they pose a big threat 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:37.920 to the Bears on Sunday because of that defense and 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:40.240 one particular pass rusher in Max Crosby. 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:43.600 Well, just going back in my memory bank of this rivalry. 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:47.640 So we played the Raiders in the preseason in Lyle 0:01:47.720 --> 0:01:52.520 Alzado's last game and Lyle Alzado got a tipball interception 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:53.280 in the game. 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:56.720 And Lie Alzado back in the day. 0:01:56.560 --> 0:01:59.640 From Yankton College was kind of one of my unsung 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:03.480 here because when you think about the journey that Tyson 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:06.920 Baigen is about to begin from Shepherd, how many other 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:11.959 players have you heard from Yankton College. It's not about 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:15.440 the college, it's about the person. And I just always 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:18.799 admired the Raiders from Afar as a kid growing up, 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:22.480 because of Al Davis, because of their success, because of their. 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:23.840 Bad boy image. You know. 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:26.760 Having a chance to play against Lyle Alzado at the 0:02:26.880 --> 0:02:29.360 end of his career was a big thrill for me. 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:33.400 And now to update it, Yeah, this is a different Raiders. 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:36.160 This is a Las Vegas Raiders. They're no longer a 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:38.760 part of the they are a part of the Al 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:41.480 Davis footprint, but now it's run by his son. 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:44.040 Obviously they're in Las Vegas. 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:45.959 All right. As of this taping, we don't know who 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:48.840 the quarterback is going to be for the Raiders. Jimmy 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:53.760 Garoppolo probably unlikely. Brian Hoyer probably going to be the starter, 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:55.720 but he had an injury earlier when he got a 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:58.440 chance to play but finished up that game against New England, 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:01.360 and Aidan O'Connell kind of rooting. If it's not gonna 0:03:01.360 --> 0:03:03.640 be Jimmy g I'd love to see Aidan O'Connell just 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:06.560 because of the local factor. Right Stevenson High School, he 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:10.440 was ninth string and managed to make it on the 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:12.680 team and then walk on it Purdue and he becomes 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:15.440 a fourth round pick, and he started Week four against 0:03:15.480 --> 0:03:18.680 the LA Chargers in his rookie season, and he had. 0:03:18.600 --> 0:03:20.880 Proved significantly throughout his college career. 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:23.840 But if we go back and you would say that 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:27.639 he you know, the two quarterbacks that could possibly start 0:03:27.680 --> 0:03:30.440 this game, it's not what you thought about when you 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:33.240 looked at the schedule and you started thinking about what 0:03:33.320 --> 0:03:35.400 the record of the Bears could be. Look at the 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:38.840 different types of matchups who will be playing at that time, 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:42.440 and yeah, you know, I'm not really excited to see 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:46.840 Brian Hoyer play. I've been there, done that. So I 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:49.440 would like to see a couple of young kids come 0:03:49.480 --> 0:03:54.600 out and play on a Chicago Sunday afternoon and go 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:57.080 out there and battle and give it their best because 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:01.880 you imagine the hunger that's just dripping in their mouth 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:06.720 to prove everybody wrong, but to prove themselves right. So 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:09.600 I think there's a lot of exciting factors to look 0:04:09.640 --> 0:04:12.520 at when you look at the pursuit what the quarterback 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:13.320 battle could be. 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:16.200 Yeah, well let's look at toyt tysonvaging. Because I know 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:18.920 the media on Wednesday up here at hallis all toown. 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.880 We're really trying to underscore the fact, Hey, you know, 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:24.159 did you ever dream of this moment? Did you ever 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:28.880 think you were ever going to get here? Listen, he did, 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:30.960 He knew he was going to get here, and his 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:34.400 plan was like yours. I'm going to be a football 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:37.040 player and I don't care where I came from. And 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:39.920 yeah it is unorthodox, but all roads lead to the NFL. 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:42.360 We've seen so many guys from different kind of colleges 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:47.760 quarterback position, not as often clearly Jimmy Garoppolos from Eastern Illinois. 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:50.839 Tony Romo was from Eastern Illinois. Those are bigger, obviously 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:54.200 than Division two Shepherd. But if you've got the talent 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:57.120 and you've got the mind and the ability to process 0:04:57.480 --> 0:04:59.599 get rid of the football like he does, you're going 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:02.240 to have it chance. And he worked himself into this chance. 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:05.320 But I'm intrigued because we can make it seem like 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:08.719 Tommy his dad is a professional arm wrestler and world 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:11.840 famous and one of the best ever. And he gives 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:14.320 a lot of credit to his dad. I'm sure his 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:16.760 dad instilled a ton of confidence. You are a product 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:21.040 of your environment, good ways and bad and that man 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:25.200 I've seen some of the videos. That's a man with confidence. 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:30.680 But this guy walks with a mature confidence. It's not bravado. 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:33.480 He's not walking around like he owns the place. I 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:36.200 think that did have a lot. You know, if people 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:38.520 believe in you, you start to believe in yourself. 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:41.240 You gotta believe in yourself. I had no backup plan. 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.320 I was all in on the NFL, on professional football, 0:05:44.360 --> 0:05:47.440 and that's the only route I was taking after college. 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:50.799 He did talk about his backup plan about going back 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:54.480 and being a teacher at his high school, and you know. 0:05:55.240 --> 0:05:57.360 He would probably been a huge asset to. 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:01.320 His high school, bringing his in his life experiences and 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:04.360 being able to pass it along to some of the kids. 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:06.880 That he would have had a hand in touching their life. 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:11.080 But I really think down deep, his plan was full 0:06:11.120 --> 0:06:11.760 steam ahead. 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:13.320 I'm gonna be an NFL player. 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:15.960 I don't care where I came from, but I know 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:16.760 where I'm going. 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:20.440 Yeah, let's listen in to some of his thoughts about 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:23.120 becoming the starting quarterback and by way of injury to 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:26.360 Justin Fields this week, as Tim and I have been discussing, 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:28.560 so here's one of the one of the sound bites 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:30.400 about always believing Boom. 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:32.400 Yeah, oddly, I always thought it was gonna happen. I 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:35.200 think that, you know, me and my dad really were 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.080 the only ones that really thought that this was going 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:41.320 to happen. And then you know, after that, it was 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:44.680 just figuring out how I could outwork everybody that you know, 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:47.840 maybe had maybe had more things, that maybe had more 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:50.480 things than I did, had better facilities, and you know 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:52.480 all that stuff. So it was just really just trying 0:06:52.480 --> 0:06:54.320 to you know, get it out the mud, putting a 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:55.960 lot of work in the in the in the shadow, 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:59.000 and just so I'd be ready for you know, this 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:00.760 week backup. 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.159 Plan if you didn't get a shot. 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:02.520 In the NFL. 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:04.680 Yeah, I was going to. 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:09.800 Just basically just CrossFit my life away, get as ripped 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:13.280 and jacked as I possibly could, and be a teacher 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:14.480 at Martinsburg High School. 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:17.800 A dream being realized for Tyson, beaging it means everything. 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:18.160 I think. 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:21.040 After the last game of my college career, I was 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:23.680 talking to a good buddy of mine and just kind of, 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:25.200 you know, we were kind of talking about like, hey, 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:27.160 you know, no matter how good or bad this goes 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:29.600 at the next level, you know, there is a there's 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.720 a very big chance that you know, maybe you make 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:34.600 the team, but you might never get to start a 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:36.880 game ever again in your whole life. You might never 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:40.040 get you know that that that QB one role ever again. 0:07:40.080 --> 0:07:42.360 And that's just kind of you know, how the how 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:45.040 the apple falls from the tree sometimes, But to look 0:07:45.080 --> 0:07:46.880 where I'm at and to look how everything is kind 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:49.680 of falling into place, just nothing, but you know, extreme 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:53.640 uh gratitude and just feeling super blessed to you know, 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:57.360 be able to beat at that kind of motivational role 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:59.560 in the the younger people in my in my family 0:07:59.640 --> 0:08:01.080 kind of be that person they can look up to 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:03.920 and just really just motivation for everybody that, you know, 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.280 maybe at a smaller level and all the people back home. 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:08.920 In time, he had a decision to make because I'm 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:10.840 sure people were in his ear. And I haven't talked 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:14.360 to him about this directly, but he looked into other 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:17.520 colleges before his last year. Notre Dame was one of them. 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:19.720 He wanted to go to Notre Dame, but they didn't 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:21.760 offer him anything, and so you know what he just said, 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:25.240 forget about it, I'm staying here. And they asked him 0:08:25.280 --> 0:08:28.520 if he would be worried at that time about making 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:31.000 the wrong decision, because you know, were you going to 0:08:31.040 --> 0:08:32.880 get drafted, Were you going to get signed anywhere? If 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:35.440 you're playing at Sheppard College, a competition is different. But 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:39.720 he stuck to his guns. Believed he was being coached 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:42.400 as well as anywhere he'd be getting coached, and he 0:08:42.440 --> 0:08:44.400 knew the system very well and he was very successful 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:46.360 when it worked out. This one worked out well. 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.959 You know, a football development, especially at the quarterback position, 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:53.120 is live reps and how many of the how many 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:55.560 of the coaching points that they can give you over 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:59.720 a four year period, you know, understanding the timing of 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:04.520 the understanding your accuracy, how to develop your body along 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:06.760 the way, and then you're going to bring that to 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:09.520 the next level wherever you are. I think he made 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:13.079 the right choice in staying at Shepherd rather than going 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:16.400 to a program that maybe they went and recruited a 0:09:16.440 --> 0:09:19.559 freshmen that they believe that they should start getting him 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:23.520 involved in the program immediately and leave this transfer kid behind. 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:26.840 So I think he made the right decision. I think 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:30.240 he's proved the coaches here in Chicago that he has 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:34.679 and now I mean shoots the opportunity of a lifetime 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:36.920 to start the game against the Las Vegas Raiders. 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:39.080 Yeah, the only difference I guess is he could have 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:42.680 played himself into a draft selection and get a contract 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:46.080 of some sort other than an undrafted free agent. But hey, 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:50.679 that's just that's history. Now he's earning his opportunity. He's 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:56.320 earned his opportunity by being a well mean, well meaning 0:09:57.040 --> 0:10:01.000 drive to get here number one, prove in practices what 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:03.040 he's learned. He's taken it from the classroom to the 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:05.319 playing field. They're not just going to make him the 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:07.760 number two just because they had to believe in him. 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.240 And believe me, there were a lot of high grades 0:10:10.280 --> 0:10:13.080 on Tyson pagent in this building. For all your journeys ahead, 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:14.839 go with a partner who's been on your team from 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.080 the beginning, the one members and communities have trusted for 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:20.240 over eighty five years, Blue Crossing, Bluefield of Illinois, always 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:23.319 standing by you, with you for you threw it on. 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:25.679 It's gonna be about one thing about Tyson. 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:28.600 No, it's equally as a gutsy call for him to 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:31.800 be a free agent and come to Chicago, giving where 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:35.199 Justin Fields is in his career as a was gutsy 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:37.960 for him to stay at Shepherd. So there's been a 0:10:37.960 --> 0:10:40.200 couple of decisions in the last couple of years in 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:43.800 this football life that have been the right decisions for him. 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:47.600 And listen, when Justin comes back and he's healthy, he 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:50.880 is going to be the starting quarterback. However, to take 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:53.320 the chance and come here as a free agent, you 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:55.520 never know how things are going to work out. 0:10:56.040 --> 0:10:59.480 Here's a question he was asking why he's not overwhelmed details. 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:02.199 You know a lot of details. Obviously, the team I'm 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:04.480 going against Sunday is a little bit better than west Chester. 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:08.560 But yeah, other than that, the other teams a little 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.199 bit smarter than than they were a year ago, and 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:13.640 there's quite a bit more details than there where a 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:15.640 year ago. So other than that, you still just, you know, 0:11:15.720 --> 0:11:17.640 play hard and operate and sync with the with the 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:19.520 guys you got. You know, I think my life has 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:21.280 been planned out for me ahead of time. I think 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:23.680 that everything that happened, that has happened and will happen 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:27.360 was already setting stone to happen. And I think that, 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:30.840 you know, coming more up from where I come from, 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:33.360 you know, I've pretty much beat every odd that there 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:37.000 was for me, So you know, I got nothing to lose. 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:38.440 I'm just you know, I'm gonna go out there and 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:40.520 you know, fight with these guys to the death, and 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:42.200 you know, try to stack up as many wins as 0:11:42.200 --> 0:11:43.719 I can till till we get justin back. 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:47.200 And it's a great answer, Tom, And to piggyback on 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:49.840 what you said about you know what his plan was, 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:52.800 high school teacher. That's after he was gonna quote cross 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:56.200 fit his life away and just get all yoked up 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:59.960 and muscled up. I'm sure he was doing push up 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:02.200 two with that that dad of his right. 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:05.280 Well, you know, I think that he's been around the 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:09.000 weight room. He understands the important of physical fitness. And 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:13.440 you know, if he would have put the same effort 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:16.560 into being a CrossFit ripped guy at a young age 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:18.840 you know that he did in football, he would have 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:20.480 probably been equally as successful. 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:22.760 But I'm glad it worked out for him. 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:25.560 And he's he's earned the opportunity that he's going to get. 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:28.559 Brought to you by PNC Official Bank of the Bears. 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:32.280 Let's transition to our interview with sports executive author and 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:36.800 lawyer Amy Trask, the former CEO of the Oakland the 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:40.160 then Oakland Raiders and now they're known as the Vegas Raiders. 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:44.240 It's a long, long list of accomplishments and participation in 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:47.440 a variety of projects. One right now with Susie Schuster 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:50.439 on What the Football Podcast? Find it anywhere you get 0:12:50.440 --> 0:12:54.160 your podcasts down the rich Isen Show YouTube channel. Also 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:57.760 on the crew of the that Other pregame show NFL 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:02.400 on CBS dot Net. Find ex Bears Kyle Long and Brockveren, 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:06.520 Tom remember Brockveren, a safety for the Bears, and Adam Schein. 0:13:06.640 --> 0:13:09.800 Of course that's just scratching the service, but the big 0:13:09.840 --> 0:13:14.040 picture the first female CEO in the National Football League 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:17.360 with the Raiders, Amy Trask, Thanks for joining us. I 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:19.480 know there's a lot to you, so we're going to 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:22.240 try and hit all these different things. But I enjoying 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:24.600 the post CEO life. 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:25.120 Well. 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:27.240 You are very very very kind to have me on 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:31.959 and extraordinarily gracious in the introduction. Thank you in both regards, 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:34.920 and I'm enjoying it a lot. You know what I'm 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:38.040 doing the things which scare me the most, and that's 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:38.679 kind of fun. 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:42.600 What scares you? Podcasts, a microphone. 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:46.040 Well, television cameras, cameras of any sort. As you can see, 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:50.200 I'm doing this without video. Cameras have scared me since 0:13:50.240 --> 0:13:52.360 I was a kid, if you go back and look 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:53.720 at home movies. 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:54.240 Google it. 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:56.600 Kids, we had movies back in the day like those 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:59.440 actually little movie cameras, and your family would take movies 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:02.960 in any home movies. I'm not in any home pictures, 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:06.079 family pictures. I just I don't like cameras, and so 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:10.120 being on television is facing my biggest fear and it's 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:11.880 kind of fun, you. 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:13.560 Know, Amy, It might be kind of weird because I 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:17.160 was born in nineteen sixty one if you're familiar with 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:20.160 that year, and I didn't grow up with a family 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:22.640 with a lot of cameras and a lot of movies. 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:25.640 So I wasn't a big part of myself. And I 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:28.840 think that was a part of my upbringing at that age, 0:14:28.880 --> 0:14:32.200 and so I don't think it's uncommon for people to 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:33.200 shy away from that. 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:36.840 You know. My first question is about being a CEO. 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:41.560 Did anybody ever discourage you from being a CEO in 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:42.240 this business? 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:44.640 No? 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:48.560 Now that said, I didn't begin my career. I didn't 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:52.320 embark upon it with any particular goal of being a 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:53.120 CEO in. 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:54.280 Mind, or you know. 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:59.360 I joined the Greater Organization as an intern, and I 0:14:59.520 --> 0:15:03.120 was relled to be part of the team any responsibility 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:05.240 I could have had, any role I could have had. 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:08.200 If my job was to stand on the sideline and 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:11.160 pick up those scrunched up cups that players throw on 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:13.600 the ground, I would have been thrilled to do that. 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:17.200 So yes, I was given an opportunity to grow within 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:22.440 the organization, and that speaks to volumes about al Davis. 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:26.520 But I didn't join the organization with any specific goal 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:27.640 or planned in mind. 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:31.240 So I went to college with Hannah Storm, and the 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:33.720 very first day I met her on campus, I said, well, 0:15:33.760 --> 0:15:35.600 what are you going to do after college? She goes, 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:38.560 I'm going to be a sportscaster, and I go, wow, 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:42.520 that's super ambitious, considering there wasn't a lot of females 0:15:42.520 --> 0:15:45.920 in the role at that time. After that, you were 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:49.920 a part of the Raiders organization, did you immediately set 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:52.840 your sites on this as your profession or were you 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:56.560 still looking at the outside possibilities or did you know 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.240 that it was kind of hook line and sinker into 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:01.120 the world of professional sports. 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:04.640 Oh, once I joined the organization, that was the dream 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:06.760 come true. As I said, I joined as an intern 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:10.160 during grad school. I started grad school and I heard 0:16:10.200 --> 0:16:12.840 all these students who were about a year ahead of me, 0:16:12.880 --> 0:16:17.000 sitting around one day talking about internships and externships. I'd 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:20.480 never even heard the word externship before, but I picked 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:23.200 up the phone and I called the Raider Organization and 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:25.880 asked if I could be an intern. And the gentleman 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.680 with whom I spoke said, what's an intern? And I 0:16:28.720 --> 0:16:30.800 told him and he said, come on down. 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:31.640 And I started. 0:16:31.720 --> 0:16:35.280 And there was no full time job available for me 0:16:35.360 --> 0:16:38.080 when I graduated grad school, so I took another job 0:16:38.160 --> 0:16:40.560 for about a year. Got a phone call from the 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:43.680 Raider Organization saying, we have an opening. Would you like 0:16:43.760 --> 0:16:48.320 to join us? And I ran so fast to give 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:51.440 notice where I was working that I was going to 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:53.960 leave for the Raiders that seriously had al seen me. 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:57.000 I ran so fast he might assign me to play corner. 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:02.080 Well he did like speed, Oh yeah, yep. 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:04.600 And as Cliff Brant said to me, for years and 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:07.040 years and years and years, speed. 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:08.920 Kills it certainly does. 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:11.679 So you know, I joined the organization, and as I said, 0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:15.919 I was so thrilled to be part of the team 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:19.480 that my specific role was not of import to me. 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:22.800 Contributing in any way I could was what I wanted 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:23.120 to do. 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:25.840 Amy Trask our guest here Around Bears, et cetera with 0:17:25.880 --> 0:17:29.080 top dayer Jeff Joniac. Interesting insights as the Bears. You're 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:31.320 ready to meet the Raiders Sunday twelve oh two at 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:33.720 Soldier Field. Tom and I have the call on ESPN 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.440 one thousand and the Bears Radio Network. All right, this 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:41.080 is a very specific question and it's short. What did 0:17:41.400 --> 0:17:43.320 Al Davis c in? Amy Trask? 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:48.960 You know, I'm not going to speak for him. I 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:51.400 will say, however, that I think we shared a few 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:52.240 things in common. 0:17:52.960 --> 0:17:54.320 We're both contrarians. 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:57.840 I've always been a contrarian, and there's nothing contrary about 0:17:57.880 --> 0:17:58.920 being a contrarian. 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:01.800 It can be a good thing, you know. 0:18:01.880 --> 0:18:05.920 The biggest misconception about Al is that he wouldn't tolerate 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:08.959 anyone who disagreed with him, or he wouldn't tolerate disagreement. 0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:11.439 If that were the case, I would have been fired. 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:13.720 Roughly two two and a half weeks into my job, 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:16.000 he walked into a room where I was sitting with 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:17.399 a co worker. 0:18:18.080 --> 0:18:21.320 Ripped into that guy. I mean just ripped into him. 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:23.960 The analogy I often use is it's the way I 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:29.119 can imagine a velociraptor ripping into flesh. And I listened 0:18:29.119 --> 0:18:31.280 for a little bit and I realized al was wrong. 0:18:31.960 --> 0:18:33.440 So here I am, you know, two two and a 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:35.679 half weeks into my job, and I said, excuse me, 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:38.720 you're wrong, and I had to say it loudly because 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:41.280 he was shouting, and so I kind of shouted, you're wrong. 0:18:41.800 --> 0:18:44.160 And I will never forget the look on his face 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:46.360 when his head turned and looked at me. 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:48.560 Like, what did you just say? 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:51.360 And I went on to explain to him, Look, if 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:55.560 you were basing your conclusion on accurate data, accurate information, 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:58.720 that would be a fair conclusion. But you are basing 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:02.639 your conclusion on an accurate data, and your conclusion is wrong. 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:04.200 He hollered. 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:06.320 And when I say hollered, I mean we were having 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:09.040 a spirited debate and we both were speaking loudly, and 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:11.440 he said something and I said something, and we went 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:14.360 back and forth, back and forth. And I didn't realize 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:18.159 until I was told much, much much later. Apparently people 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:20.040 in the building were like, what is going on? You 0:19:20.080 --> 0:19:21.919 know this girl who's been here like two weeks? 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:22.120 What? 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:24.119 They were rushed up and they were standing in the 0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:27.240 hallway outside the room where we were having this argument. 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:30.560 This disagreement. One person even brought a box because she 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:33.199 figured I'd have to pack my fings. But at the 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:35.960 end of this argument, he looked at me and he 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:38.239 just said, oh, okay, I gotcha, I got it. 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:38.840 I got it. 0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:41.800 And we went on to have a great conversation. And 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:44.639 I learned at that moment, roughly two two and a 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:47.800 half weeks into my career, you absolutely could disagree with 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:50.840 al and I believed that when it was appropriate, I 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:54.280 should disagree with him. I disagreed with him more than 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:57.200 I agreed with him over the course of almost thirty years. 0:19:57.400 --> 0:19:59.640 And I think the fact that I did that only 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:03.359 too so weeks into my job that stuck out to 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:06.280 him as well. I think that, Okay, here's this girl. 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:08.359 She's been here roughly two two and a half weeks, 0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:10.840 and she's telling me I'm wrong. I think that got 0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:12.520 our relationship off on the right foot. 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:14.680 Well, I've got two daughters and they tell me I'm 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:16.760 wrong every day, and they both want to be in sports, 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:18.480 so they got a good head start. 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:20.359 Well wait a minute, wait a minute, how old are they? 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:24.160 How old are there grad school level women? So one 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:27.480 at UNC and one at High Point University. So Tom's 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:29.640 like their grandpa or their uncle. I don't know which, 0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:32.880 but it depends how what kind of crankiness he is. 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:36.240 I was about to say, if they were pre teens 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:38.199 or a team, just buckle buckle up. 0:20:38.240 --> 0:20:39.679 But they're obviously past that. 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:42.040 Yeah, I got through that. I got through that stage 0:20:42.359 --> 0:20:45.679 CEO of the Raiders, sixteen of twenty six years in 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:51.320 the organization, and you know, I often hear that general 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:54.399 managers or team presidents or whatnot during the course of 0:20:54.440 --> 0:20:59.080 my twenty seven years associated with this franchise, they don't 0:20:59.080 --> 0:21:02.240 want to have me. They use that term, yes, men, 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:06.360 but it often has existed that way. Or coaches who 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:09.000 leave their doors shut they don't want to hear anything 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:12.520 from anybody else. And clearly that was just the opposite 0:21:12.520 --> 0:21:16.639 in the Raiders organization under Al Davis. How important is 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:20.440 that at every level of an organization to have good 0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:22.840 conversation and flow and challenge each other. 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:25.320 You just took the words out of my mouth because 0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:28.160 I was going to say every organization this just isn't 0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:32.200 with respect to sports teams. In my view, every single organization, 0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:39.200 every business, every organization benefits from an environment in which 0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:42.520 people feel not only free to but welcome to and 0:21:42.880 --> 0:21:47.120 encouraged to disagree with one another. Look number one, there 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:51.520 can be very, very heated disagreements, but disagreement can be agreeable. 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:53.560 In other words, it doesn't need to be personalized, it 0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:56.320 doesn't need to be nasty, it doesn't need to be offensive. 0:21:56.720 --> 0:22:02.000 But disagreement is healthy. Agreement is good for a business. 0:22:02.040 --> 0:22:06.320 If you have any sort of business whatsoever, any organization whatsoever, 0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:10.800 and you don't encourage people to disagree, you're harming your 0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:13.879 business because the last thing you need is people simply 0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:17.119 saying yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, because yes might not 0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:20.200 be the best answer. And by the way, it doesn't 0:22:20.280 --> 0:22:23.160 matter if you make a suggestion that's a bad suggestion, 0:22:23.280 --> 0:22:27.200 because even out of the worst suggestions can come good ideas. 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:30.600 You know, Amy, we had a guy that worked for 0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:32.880 the Bears for over forty years. He was the first 0:22:32.920 --> 0:22:34.960 straint coach in the history of the NFL. His name 0:22:35.000 --> 0:22:37.560 was Clyde Emerck, and he always used to say knowledge 0:22:37.600 --> 0:22:41.600 earned is greater than knowledge learned. So my question to 0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:44.680 you is did your education help or did the business 0:22:44.840 --> 0:22:45.439 educate you? 0:22:46.880 --> 0:22:47.120 Yes? 0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:50.919 And yes, I think the education was very important to me, 0:22:51.040 --> 0:22:53.560 both in terms of that which I learned and that 0:22:53.600 --> 0:22:56.679 which I was able to apply in business. But also 0:22:56.720 --> 0:22:59.439 I think having a graduate degree gave me a little 0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:02.720 bit of extra gravitas in the following regard. Remember, I 0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:06.800 started my career with the Raiders well before a lot 0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:10.120 of people listening to this were even born. I started 0:23:10.160 --> 0:23:12.880 as an intern in like eighty three, and was there 0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:16.199 eighty three eighty five as an intern, and then you know, 0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:18.040 give or take, maybe it even went into eighty No, 0:23:18.080 --> 0:23:20.280 I guess it was eighty three eighty five, was an intern. 0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:23.960 I joined full time in eighty seven. You know, these. 0:23:23.800 --> 0:23:27.639 Conversations we're having now about women in sports, those weren't 0:23:27.720 --> 0:23:31.080 even conversations back then. So I think the graduate degree 0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:34.199 did one other thing for me, a little bit of 0:23:34.280 --> 0:23:36.800 extra gravitas that may have helped. 0:23:38.160 --> 0:23:41.240 So all right, I was drafted in eighty three into 0:23:41.280 --> 0:23:44.560 the NFL, so we have a kind of a similar timeline. 0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:46.879 But when I follow the Raiders, which I have my 0:23:46.880 --> 0:23:47.360 whole life. 0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:49.920 You're talking about being in Oakland, being in LA being 0:23:49.960 --> 0:23:53.600 back in Oakland, having all this stadium, kind of discussions 0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:57.480 through Al Davis of all these different towns. Did that 0:23:57.680 --> 0:24:01.639 affect or interfere with the job or the Raiders or 0:24:01.960 --> 0:24:05.040 was it a process? Because there was so much uncertainty 0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:07.760 in the NFL in those days that it was good 0:24:07.800 --> 0:24:10.679 conversation that Al Davis continued. 0:24:10.160 --> 0:24:10.760 To have that. 0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:13.840 I guess yes and yes and no and no. 0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:16.399 But before I answer that which I will, I just 0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:18.359 want to tell you I was smiling ear to ear 0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:20.200 when you told me to hear that you were drafted, 0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:23.480 because once during my career, at one point I was 0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:25.520 in Al's office and we were talking about a number 0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:28.600 of things, and Tim Brown's name came up, and Tim 0:24:28.760 --> 0:24:32.160 was drafted shortly after I began my career full time, 0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:33.960 not when I was an intern, but when I joined 0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:36.360 as a full time employee. And I said to Al, 0:24:36.680 --> 0:24:40.080 you know, Tim was drafted sort of shortly after I 0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:43.000 began as a full time employee. So it's sort of 0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:45.080 like Tim and I were in the same draft class. 0:24:45.280 --> 0:24:47.840 And Al looks at me and says, all looks at 0:24:47.880 --> 0:24:51.199 me and says, Tim was a first round pick. You 0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:56.760 were a street free agent, And he, of course was 0:24:56.920 --> 0:25:02.280 absolutely right. Look, you know, Al, I was not with 0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:05.160 the organization when Al moved it initially from Oakland down 0:25:05.200 --> 0:25:07.359 to Los Angeles. I was in college at the time 0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:09.879 in the Bay Area, not far from Oakland. I was 0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:13.119 up the freeway at cal Berkeley. I was with the 0:25:13.240 --> 0:25:17.160 organization when he chose to move it back to Oakland, 0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:21.439 and then I chose to leave the organization before the 0:25:21.480 --> 0:25:23.639 time that Mark chose to move it to Las Vegas 0:25:23.720 --> 0:25:26.240 because and this, and the reason I share that is 0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:29.359 it goes to your question. One of the reasons I 0:25:29.359 --> 0:25:31.800 did choose to leave the organization was I saw that 0:25:31.920 --> 0:25:34.359 writing on the wall. I knew that he was going 0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:37.200 to make the decision to move the team, and having 0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:41.160 seen the impact of moving a team on the fans, 0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:44.240 that's not something with which I wanted to be associated again. 0:25:45.480 --> 0:25:48.040 You know, I'm sorry, go ahead, no, No, you go ahead, 0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:48.400 you go ahead. 0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:48.879 No. 0:25:49.040 --> 0:25:51.920 I was sorry to interrupt, but I was thinking about 0:25:51.960 --> 0:25:54.280 Tim Brown because I also went to Notre Dame, and 0:25:54.320 --> 0:25:57.480 I know you went to graduate school at USC so 0:25:58.000 --> 0:26:02.200 you went to cal Berkeley, and you so where is 0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:06.040 your loyalty at this time in your college football life. 0:26:06.800 --> 0:26:09.679 I am so glad you asked that, and you posited it. 0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:13.359 I think I just add too many ededs to posit it. 0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:14.000 Did it? 0:26:14.080 --> 0:26:14.359 Did it? 0:26:15.160 --> 0:26:17.639 You pose that exactly as I would love you to 0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:24.639 because one hundred percent of my college football loyalty lies 0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:27.000 with my California Golden Bears. 0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:30.400 And by the way, in grad school, that was. 0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:32.080 What I found to be the case with all my 0:26:32.480 --> 0:26:35.080 you know, co students, if you will, that if you 0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:38.680 went to an undergrad program where they had football, if 0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:41.200 you went to an undergraduate school with a big football program, 0:26:41.520 --> 0:26:45.119 your allegiance rested with your undergrad The people in grad 0:26:45.160 --> 0:26:49.720 school who gravitated towards rooting for that team were ones 0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:52.040 who went to college where they really didn't have big 0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:55.280 football programs. And by the way, I'm still annoyed at 0:26:55.280 --> 0:26:59.479 the whole usc UCLA fleeing the Pac twelve because I 0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:01.320 believe that began its demise. 0:27:02.800 --> 0:27:06.040 Amy Trask, our guest here on Bears, etc. Remaining moments, 0:27:06.960 --> 0:27:10.720 This is quite the label to go into the rest 0:27:10.760 --> 0:27:13.560 of your professional life. Named one of the top one 0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:17.280 hundred greatest game changers in NFL history during the commemoration 0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:19.239 of the one hundred year anniversary, which Tom and I 0:27:19.280 --> 0:27:21.320 were very much a part of. Here were the Bears 0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:25.720 franchise born in nineteen twenty, the original franchise of the 0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:31.040 National Football League. How impactful was that moment for you 0:27:31.119 --> 0:27:32.520 to be acknowledged in that regard. 0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:38.120 When I found out, I cried, I didn't know about it, 0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:41.359 and it was the day that it happened, and I 0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:43.960 started getting all these phone calls and people started telling 0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:46.960 me about it. I had no idea whatsoever. And when 0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:50.080 I learned about it, I'm actually getting goosebumps right now. 0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:52.320 And I promise, I promised to try not to cry 0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:55.959 on your podcast, but I was so overwhelmed by it. 0:27:56.000 --> 0:27:58.480 I really was that I started crying and I picked 0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:01.200 And the reason I share that is I immediately picked 0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:02.520 up the phone and called my husband. 0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:03.359 He was at his office. 0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:06.400 And I'm now sobbing because when I cry, I cry, 0:28:06.760 --> 0:28:08.600 and I pick up the phone and I'm crying and 0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:12.000 I'm sobbing, and I finally blurt out the reason that 0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:16.880 I'm crying, and my husband says, wow, Wow, that's just magnificent. 0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:19.320 But next time you call me, could you not be 0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:22.240 sobbing like this? Because I thought someone die. That's not 0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:23.480 much I was crying. 0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:27.919 Oh it's a it's a great story. And we both 0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:31.800 Tom and I we we are blessed to be in 0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:33.760 this game for as long as we have Tom as 0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:36.840 a player and a long time broadcaster and me, you know, 0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:39.840 just following the lead guard here on. 0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:43.600 No, no, no, well, well, first of all, don't undertale yourself. 0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:45.960 You are not simply following the lead guard. 0:28:46.160 --> 0:28:50.800 But but but always, always, always follow the lead guard. 0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:52.600 And I don't need to tell you this man. 0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:56.520 Most games are one or lost at the line of scrimmage. 0:28:56.520 --> 0:28:59.400 So follow that lead guard. That's a very smart idea. 0:28:59.520 --> 0:28:59.760 It is. 0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:01.560 It's it's the smartest thing I could come up with. 0:29:02.160 --> 0:29:04.000 But I was a pro for that one hundred. I 0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:07.960 was approached by Westwood one because of Devin Hester's opening 0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:10.320 kickoff return of the two thousand and six Super Bowl 0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:12.760 in Miami, and he said, hey, just so you know, 0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:14.800 that's going to be one of the top one hundred 0:29:14.800 --> 0:29:18.440 plays in Super Bowl history. And I too started crying. 0:29:18.520 --> 0:29:20.720 I couldn't believe. You know, that calls in the Hall 0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:24.040 of Fame. And that's a little short, fat kid like 0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:25.840 me was never getting in the Hall of Fame any 0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:30.000 other way. So that was it. But before we let 0:29:30.080 --> 0:29:33.640 you go, so Karen Murphy, Senior Vice president of Business 0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:36.760 Strategy and CFO of the Bears, Tanisha Wade, Senior Vice 0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:40.600 President of DEI of the Bears Ashton Washington player personnel coordinator, 0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:44.280 one of the new wave of women getting involved in 0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:47.520 football operations. I could go down the list. The Bears 0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:53.640 are very committed to diversity, equity and inclusion. What would 0:29:53.680 --> 0:29:56.080 be your advice to some of these women in high 0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:58.720 positions in this Bears franchise moving forward? 0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:00.120 Well? 0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:03.600 The same advice that I give the same advice to 0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:06.760 women in their career, starting out in their careers, or 0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:09.840 who will well into their careers that I give to men, 0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:12.680 which is work hard, work as hard as you can. 0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:16.440 When you think you can't work any harder, find a 0:30:16.480 --> 0:30:19.040 way to work harder. And as I said that applies 0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:21.440 to women, that applies to men. The other thing that 0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:25.280 I will say is the best advice I ever received 0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:27.840 in my whole life was from my mom, who told 0:30:27.880 --> 0:30:30.640 me when I was a very little girl, to thine 0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:34.640 own self be true, and as moms can do, she 0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:37.040 told me that over and over and over again, and 0:30:37.080 --> 0:30:39.200 as little girls can do. I rolled my eyes when 0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:42.120 she did, But it's the best advice I've ever received. 0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:44.520 To thine own self be true. And I would say 0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:47.959 to the women you just mentioned and to others, to 0:30:48.040 --> 0:30:52.040 thine own self be true, comport yourself, do your job, 0:30:52.320 --> 0:30:54.360 handle yourself in the manner. 0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:58.520 That feels best to you, that feels right to you. 0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:01.560 My only or, I should say, my biggest regrets have 0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:03.400 been when I was not true to myself. 0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:09.080 Terrific advice, appreciate it. Only Gene Upshaw could have come 0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:11.560 up with a better line than the Hall of Famer 0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:14.960 and former head of the Players Association. She's not a girl, Tom, 0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:17.360 She's a raider. And that raider. 0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:19.920 Are you guys trying to make me cry again? 0:31:20.120 --> 0:31:23.720 Listen? That raider mystique? You know, well, I'm sure we'll 0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:26.120 feel it in some former fashion when the Vegas Raiders 0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:29.080 take the field on Sunday. I know Tom is very 0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:32.160 close friends with Chris Berman, and so nobody says al 0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:36.080 writers like uh like like mister Berman. I just you 0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:38.800 know we both love the history of football and the 0:31:38.880 --> 0:31:43.000 history of football because of Al Davis, because of individuals 0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:43.880 like George Hallis. 0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:44.200 Uh. 0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:47.120 Even though we don't play each other very often. It 0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:50.680 it's it's I'm looking forward to just seeing the silver 0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:54.000 and black on the field facing our beloved bears here. 0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:56.240 So it's it's important to the history of the NFL. 0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:57.080 Would you agree. 0:31:58.240 --> 0:31:59.440 You stated that perfectly. 0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:03.560 There's nothing I can add other than to very very 0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:06.880 storied franchises that are very very good for the National 0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:10.160 Football League, and it is terrific when they meet. 0:32:10.240 --> 0:32:11.960 But you know, if you guys. 0:32:11.680 --> 0:32:14.560 Lived closer to me, like if Chicago wasn't so far 0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:17.280 from Los Angeles, and if I didn't almost freeze to 0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:20.320 death when I was once in Chicago, I would say, 0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:22.400 if we were closer, we could bet ice cream on 0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:22.800 the game. 0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:24.960 But we'll We'll just have to enjoy it. 0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:28.360 You know what if the Raiders win, When the Raiders win, 0:32:28.520 --> 0:32:30.800 I should say, for Raider fans, I'm going to have 0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:32.640 some ice cream and toast you from Afar. 0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:35.320 And if you should win, you should do the same. 0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:38.320 Sounds like a plan. Sounds like a plan. Amy, appreciate 0:32:38.360 --> 0:32:41.080 all your time, really enjoy it and continued success. And 0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:42.959 you know, don't be shy of the camera. 0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:44.520 You know what, well, thank you. 0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:46.600 The camera loves you so love the camera. 0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:47.520 Ban how about that. 0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:50.120 But I'm a big fan of your work and I 0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:51.280 appreciate you having me on. 0:32:51.440 --> 0:32:54.120 Thank you so much. Thank you all right, Tom, A 0:32:54.200 --> 0:32:57.440 wonderful journey that she shared with us has been so 0:32:57.600 --> 0:33:01.880 impactful and that's certainly breaking down some barriers as a 0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:06.560 female executive in what at that time was definitely a 0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:09.600 male driven sport in all levels. So now we're seeing 0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:12.880 more and more women in all aspects of football, behind 0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:18.440 the scenes, marketing, executive level, training room, practice, field coaches, 0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:19.040 you name it. 0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:22.160 They are a part of football, and I think they're 0:33:22.200 --> 0:33:26.080 having an impact on the game, whether it's Sarah Thomas 0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:31.480 officiated the game this weekend, or the you know, the 0:33:31.520 --> 0:33:34.760 female executives that have been become a part of the 0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:39.080 front office, to the training staffs all over the NFL. 0:33:39.240 --> 0:33:42.680 So I think it's a remarkable journey and I think 0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:46.880 it benefits the NFL to have that type of growth 0:33:47.000 --> 0:33:48.800 in its infrastructure. 0:33:48.960 --> 0:33:51.480 Right now, when you spend over twenty nine ninety nine 0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:54.080 dollars at Steinhoffels, you'll score a one hundred dollars Bears 0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:55.920 Pro Shop gift card. 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Don't don't try to 0:34:34.200 --> 0:34:38.400 make an unrealistic play, an unrealistic throw. Make sure that 0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:41.440 you kind of get out there at the beginning of 0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:44.560 the game, get your second wind, and I think the 0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:47.160 tempo the game will slow down for you a little bit, 0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:50.440 and then it's going to be you know, maybe even 0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:54.480 you know, talking to Luke Getzi about his most confident 0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:58.200 plays to start the game with, where he feels the best, 0:34:58.200 --> 0:35:00.640 and you know who we would like to throw the 0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:04.440 ball too, because I think Tyson's been here long enough 0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:07.440 that he knows every one of these receivers. He's had 0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:09.920 a lot of time with the starting guys throughout the 0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:12.600 course of this week and the backup guys that are 0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:14.040 going to play a role in this game. 0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:16.319 Now that you're getting into depth. 0:35:16.120 --> 0:35:20.240 Like Tyler Scott and Dayles Jones Junior, and even Deonta 0:35:20.440 --> 0:35:24.399 Foreman for that matter. So go out there and play 0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:27.920 football like you've been learning and preparing for your whole life, 0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:32.479 and just cut it loose man, and understand the down 0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:35.120 and distance, the field position of every play so you 0:35:35.239 --> 0:35:37.759 have a better understanding if you got to just get 0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:40.120 rid of the ball harmlessly out of bounds. 0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:44.240 Not to keep belaboring his performance or how he's looking 0:35:44.280 --> 0:35:47.520 at it, but one more if I may, I was 0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:50.800 impressed when he said he told the coaches last Sunday 0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:52.400 against Minnesota and he was going to be put in 0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:55.680 the game. Hey, don't hold anything back. I know the 0:35:55.719 --> 0:35:58.680 game plan. I got it. So whatever play you want to, 0:35:58.920 --> 0:36:03.520 I got it. I mean, that's impressive. And they knew 0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:06.399 that though, because they're watching these guys prepare and he's 0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:09.400 prepared like a starter. It's the cliche, but it's the reality. 0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:13.319 As the backup quarterback, you're one one bad hit away 0:36:13.320 --> 0:36:14.920 from being in the game, and that turned out to 0:36:14.920 --> 0:36:17.400 be the case last week. Does that give you confidence 0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:20.480 that he's going to execute this game plan at a 0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:21.080 high level. 0:36:21.600 --> 0:36:24.600 Heck yeah, listen, man, Jeff, I've been I've been in 0:36:24.680 --> 0:36:28.280 this game before. Mike Tomzach was an undrafted free agent 0:36:28.320 --> 0:36:31.240 out of Ohio State when he came to the Chicago 0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:32.800 Bears in nineteen eighty five. 0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:33.960 He made the. 0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:36.680 Team and he played, and he won his first ten 0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:40.719 starts in the NFL. So this is not untapped territory 0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:44.520 for the quarterback position for the Chicago Bears. For my 0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:47.520 experiences that I went through and now what the Bears 0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:51.080 are going to go through with Tyson beagent. So that's 0:36:51.160 --> 0:36:54.080 why he you know, he's eye to eye contact with 0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:57.040 the coaches on the sideline telling them, look, I know 0:36:57.160 --> 0:36:59.759 what I'm doing. I know, let's go to work and 0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:02.719 let's put this plan of an attack in place. And 0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:06.480 you know, I think whatever position you play, you know 0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:09.680 only because I was an offensive lineman and I didn't 0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:11.960 have any notification, but when I was going to go 0:37:12.000 --> 0:37:14.439 into the game, it was injury you're in. 0:37:14.800 --> 0:37:16.520 And that's the same thing with Tyson. 0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:20.319 And I think that he performed admirably, But I think 0:37:20.360 --> 0:37:22.760 when you have a chance to have a full week 0:37:22.840 --> 0:37:25.800 of coaching under your belt, I think we're going to 0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:28.040 see even a better performance out of Tyson. 0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:28.279 Tom. 0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:31.080 We talked to Deontay Forman this week for our Bears 0:37:31.120 --> 0:37:34.320 Weekly Interview that you can hear on ESPN one thousand 0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:38.040 and six o'clock on Thursday nights. And I hope that 0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:41.600 they do have a pretty steady diet of run game 0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:46.080 against the Raiders, run at Crosby, kind of mute the 0:37:46.080 --> 0:37:48.560 pass rush if they so desire. After watching how the 0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:51.200 Blitzes have affected this team over the course of the season, 0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:54.960 hopefully they will be toned down a bit on that. 0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:57.919 In that regard run the ball and that guy he's 0:37:57.960 --> 0:38:00.080 ready to get lathered up. I got that impression. And 0:38:00.120 --> 0:38:02.400 from sitting next to them, how about you, Yeah. 0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:04.600 You know you're gonna have to run the ball because 0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:08.360 that's the traits, that's the mo of the Chicago Bearris 0:38:08.360 --> 0:38:09.040 football team. 0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:10.919 You're not going to become a. 0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:14.719 Sixty pass a game team because you're starting Tyson Baja. No, 0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:17.680 you're going to have the carry blasting game in there, 0:38:17.760 --> 0:38:21.080 car blocking for the ball carriers. You're going to have 0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:23.880 a slew of guys that can carry the ball, starting 0:38:23.880 --> 0:38:26.399 with Deonta Foreman. But I would like to see more 0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:29.880 opportunities from the running back position from Dayles Jones Junior 0:38:30.520 --> 0:38:33.120 and when you look at the Raiders, though, Jeff, this 0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:36.680 is a different pass attacking team than the Minnesota Vikings. 0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:39.680 So the timing and the protection is going to be 0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:43.040 a lot different than it was against Minnesota. And those 0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:45.719 are the things that the guys in front of them 0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:50.320 that have those responsibilities are going to have to understand 0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:53.400 how they need to perform to put Tyson in that 0:38:53.960 --> 0:38:54.600 comfort zone. 0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:57.200 He tell me, what sense? What's the difference? 0:38:58.040 --> 0:38:58.439 All right? 0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:00.440 So when you look at the Minnesota bike, he's from 0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:03.240 the very first play of the game. The Chicago Bears 0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:07.680 had five blockers. They're all offensive linemen. Minnesota had six 0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:11.200 linemen at the line of scrimmage. Some of them are 0:39:11.320 --> 0:39:14.200 outside linebackers, but they're still on the line of scrimmage. 0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:16.880 So when you have guys jet that are block coming 0:39:16.920 --> 0:39:21.560 from the line of scrimmage, everybody knows who their responsibility is. 0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:25.000 They don't do that in the raid of The Raiders 0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:29.120 are a multi level blitzing team. So now if you 0:39:29.200 --> 0:39:31.360 have a guy in a three point stance in his 0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:36.400 hand down, he's automatically the responsibility of an offensive lineman. 0:39:36.800 --> 0:39:39.920 If you have a blitzer that's coming from the second level, 0:39:40.400 --> 0:39:42.680 if you don't point them out and you tell the 0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:46.520 offensive line so and so is Mike. He's our responsibility. 0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:49.680 And there's another blitzer that comes from the second level, 0:39:49.719 --> 0:39:53.560 that's the responsibility of the back. Sometimes they come from 0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:57.000 the third level. So it's a lot easier to identify 0:39:57.120 --> 0:40:01.479 responsibilities when everybody's lined up on the line scrimmage. When 0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:04.799 blitzers come from the second level, you got to make 0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:08.279 sure the running back understands his assignment according to the 0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:15.320 protection and how everybody's everybody is identifying their responsibility. 0:40:15.440 --> 0:40:19.400 Patrick Graham is the defensive coordinator. I'm certain then, coming 0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:22.680 from the New England program with Josh McDaniels. Is this 0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:24.960 going to be a special game plan then, because that's 0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:27.520 what Belichick does, special game plan each week. 0:40:28.520 --> 0:40:30.560 Well, it's going to be special because they're going to 0:40:30.600 --> 0:40:32.759 feel that they can take advantage of a first time 0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:33.960 starting quarterback. 0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:36.960 It's gonna be a special game plan. 0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:39.120 Because they're going to look at what the changes are, 0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:42.080 if there are any on the offensive line, and then 0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:45.000 how they can take it and take advantage of the 0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:49.400 new matchups. But they're going to do what they do well. 0:40:49.600 --> 0:40:52.759 They're gonna do what is their main influence, and that's 0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:56.960 Matt Crosby and so on down the line. But they're 0:40:57.000 --> 0:40:59.520 not going to start all of a sudden lining up 0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:00.680 differently than they have. 0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:05.040 Since Josh McDaniels has got there. It's just gonna be. 0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:08.279 They're gonna come from different levels, and they're gonna see 0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:13.080 if the Bears are have the ability to identify that, 0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:15.600 like I said, identify their responsibilities. 0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:18.000 He definitely tends the blitz more on third and of 0:41:18.040 --> 0:41:21.960 course fourth down, so and zone defense is his primary. 0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:24.440 But it's a three four with the linebackers in a 0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:27.040 two point stance. So that's that's Patrick Graham and the 0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:30.160 three and three raiders. Let's talk offense because again we 0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:32.200 don't know who the quarterback is going to be, but 0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:34.920 they they have Josh Jacobs. He was the NFL rushing 0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:37.359 leader last year and he's an outstanding pass receiver. He's 0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:39.480 been targeted thirty times more than any other back in 0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:42.480 football this year, but his rushing yardage is way down. 0:41:43.239 --> 0:41:45.080 What have you seen on tape that leads you to 0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:48.600 believe that what's going on there? Because he was outstanding 0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:49.160 a year ago. 0:41:49.719 --> 0:41:53.319 You know, the offensive line, they're not guys, you know, 0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:55.800 they're not the hogs from the Washington Redskins. 0:41:56.080 --> 0:41:59.080 They're not the Bears offensive lines from nineteen eighty five. 0:41:59.600 --> 0:42:02.560 They are an offensive line and because of changes are 0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:06.040 so frequently made nowadays in the NFL, you don't get 0:42:06.040 --> 0:42:09.680 a group of guys that have played forty fifty sixty 0:42:09.760 --> 0:42:13.439 games together. You have a lot of interchangeable bodies there, 0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:18.560 and so I don't think they really developed a good 0:42:18.600 --> 0:42:24.680 relationship yet with Josh Jacobs, and so they're kind of said, Okay, 0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:26.560 we related the league in rushing last year, We're going 0:42:26.600 --> 0:42:28.960 to do it again because Josh signed a new contract, 0:42:29.160 --> 0:42:29.720 And that's. 0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:30.520 Just the way it's going to be. 0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:33.919 No, it isn't because you put every single defensive team 0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:36.840 on high alert and they know, look, if you stop 0:42:36.920 --> 0:42:39.200 the running game, you're going to put the game into 0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:40.759 the hands of Jimmy Garoppolo. 0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:44.080 And he's a good quarterback. 0:42:43.760 --> 0:42:46.400 But he's also the guy if you put that, you 0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:49.000 put enough pressure on him, he may be a guy 0:42:49.000 --> 0:42:51.799 that gives you one a game. So don't let the 0:42:51.880 --> 0:42:54.920 running game beat you and make them rely on their 0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:59.600 pass blocking ability and rely on the quarterback. 0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:03.360 Yeah, they've been pretty standard up front in terms of personnel. 0:43:03.480 --> 0:43:06.440 Four starters have played all six games, the fifth starter 0:43:06.560 --> 0:43:10.840 at the right tackle position, Illuminator. He has played two 0:43:10.880 --> 0:43:13.400 starts and he's played all six games. So that's really 0:43:13.440 --> 0:43:16.760 the only change. I was unaware of this. I knew 0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:19.399 the Bears had a lot of different rotations last year 0:43:19.440 --> 0:43:24.239 because of injury and performance, but heard in the news 0:43:24.280 --> 0:43:29.120 conference on Wednesday, thirty games, twenty three changes on the 0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:35.120 offensive line, twenty three different changes. That is not good. 0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:40.480 It's almost impossible to develop that chemistry that we talked 0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:44.880 about since OTAs began, and when you have that many 0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:48.440 changes over the course of a season, over the course 0:43:48.440 --> 0:43:51.120 of a short amount of time that Matty eber BLUs 0:43:51.160 --> 0:43:55.879 has been here, it's almost impossible to develop a relationship 0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:59.280 with your running back and your fullback, your pass protection 0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:02.719 in your quarter back. And I said, if there was 0:44:02.760 --> 0:44:06.600 ever a chance where this offensive line could get twenty 0:44:06.640 --> 0:44:10.000 five games together, I think you'd see an incredible an 0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:14.440 incredibly well performing offensive line. But it's about you know 0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:16.839 who can stay in there and who can when they 0:44:16.880 --> 0:44:19.520 get put in a position, who can hold it down 0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:23.239 and be in there multiple weeks. And that's so I say, 0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:25.479 when you go back and you look at our offensive line, 0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:28.839 when five guys started seven straight seasons. 0:44:29.320 --> 0:44:31.400 It's something that will never happen again. 0:44:31.560 --> 0:44:34.760 I agree, but let let's get let's get one whole 0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:38.520 season together, and I think you'll see a more highly 0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:39.440 performing offense. 0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:41.360 Yeah, it'll be a different look this week for the 0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:43.520 sixth time this season. So it's going to happen again. 0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:46.799 Darnell right in the injury report with a shoulder. He 0:44:46.920 --> 0:44:49.759 was limited on Wednesday and as of this taping him 0:44:49.800 --> 0:44:52.719 not heard about Thursday's practice. All right, one last thing 0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:56.640 about the Raiders. Let's let's talk Tovantae Adams because I 0:44:56.640 --> 0:44:59.080 think we brought it up on the TV show Bears 0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:00.840 Game Night Live, and you I had fun with me 0:45:00.840 --> 0:45:05.040 a little bit because Devontae Adams without Aaron Rodgers, you know, 0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:07.439 it's a different kind of animal. But he's still very good, 0:45:07.440 --> 0:45:10.120 he said, team record last season, hunter catches over fifteen 0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:12.279 hundred yards. He's still dangerous, and it'll be a great 0:45:12.280 --> 0:45:14.840 matchup for Jalen Johnson. I think that's something we're going 0:45:14.920 --> 0:45:18.600 to enjoy watching that battle, and Jalen's certainly looking forward 0:45:18.640 --> 0:45:18.920 to it. 0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:22.800 I'm only going to enjoy watching it if Jalen Johnson 0:45:22.800 --> 0:45:24.919 gets his hands on a couple tip balls and maybe 0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:27.879 an interception. I don't want to come in here and 0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:31.640 see a Green Bay Packer performance by Devonte Adams. So 0:45:32.080 --> 0:45:34.560 it is going to be about what type of pressure 0:45:34.600 --> 0:45:38.120 can the defensive line and the linebackers continue to put 0:45:38.160 --> 0:45:41.319 on whomever's playing quarterback to make the timing of their 0:45:41.360 --> 0:45:45.120 offense look dysfunctional. And then if they want do want 0:45:45.120 --> 0:45:48.400 to go to Devonte Adams repeatedly and Jalen Johnson is 0:45:48.440 --> 0:45:51.719 following him around the field, then eventually Jalen's got to 0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:55.239 come up and make the big play. And so I 0:45:55.280 --> 0:45:58.719 guess we'll see what the combination of offensive linemen can 0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:02.040 do for the Raiders pass per Ti. But how this 0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:07.120 continuously improving defensive front of the Bears can continue to 0:46:07.160 --> 0:46:09.920 stop the run, make him getting second and third and long, 0:46:10.320 --> 0:46:12.840 and then really be able to be the spark of 0:46:12.880 --> 0:46:17.400 putting pressure on the quarterback because Brian Hoyer, if he 0:46:17.440 --> 0:46:20.719 is a starting quarterback, he's not very elusive. So you're 0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:23.319 going to be able to put pressure on a spot. 0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:26.920 And then if you do put in a young rookie quarterback, 0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:30.480 you don't know how he's going to react to pressure. 0:46:31.960 --> 0:46:34.680 Miller Lite, the official Beer of the Chicago Bears tastes 0:46:34.719 --> 0:46:37.080 like middle Time Chicago, and take a chance download the 0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:40.720 Bette Rivers app today. All Right, a couple of things 0:46:40.760 --> 0:46:44.640 this week. Steve McMichael turned sixty six, your head coach 0:46:44.719 --> 0:46:49.439 Mike Dicket turned eighty four. Happy birthday to both. Ming 0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:52.680 is a superhuman tom Yeah. 0:46:52.480 --> 0:46:54.800 I mean, he's fighting an incredible battle. 0:46:55.080 --> 0:47:00.279 And you know a guy you know that is just 0:47:00.280 --> 0:47:03.040 as tough as nails as a player and as a person. 0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:06.600 He's shown the same resiliency in the battle he's fighting 0:47:06.640 --> 0:47:10.160 with als. And you know, we could say the same 0:47:10.200 --> 0:47:13.000 thing about a guy like Mike Ditka. You know, you've 0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:15.560 got a guy that has a reputation from the NFL 0:47:15.600 --> 0:47:18.120 when he's your head coach about being one of the 0:47:18.160 --> 0:47:21.680 toughest of the toughest, and you know he's still thought 0:47:21.719 --> 0:47:22.640 of in the same way. 0:47:23.200 --> 0:47:28.040 Roger Goodell gets a new contract extension to twenty twenty seven, 0:47:28.520 --> 0:47:31.680 so that's another four years. He's sixty four years old, 0:47:31.760 --> 0:47:34.680 So that's kind of in the wheelhouse range now of 0:47:34.680 --> 0:47:38.439 when some of the greats that have impacted this game 0:47:38.440 --> 0:47:41.520 in Pete Rosell and Paul Tagliabu decided to move on, 0:47:41.680 --> 0:47:45.200 but that's that's big news from the NFL owners meetings. 0:47:45.840 --> 0:47:50.960 Also the idea that they are trying to get rid 0:47:51.080 --> 0:47:54.839 of or legislate out the the hip drop tackles, the 0:47:54.880 --> 0:47:57.839 one that hurt Geno Smith on the sidelines a couple 0:47:57.880 --> 0:47:58.560 of weeks back. 0:47:59.120 --> 0:48:05.000 You with that, So, Jeff, tell me how many times 0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:06.320 that you've seen it this year. 0:48:06.800 --> 0:48:08.520 You've seen it one time. 0:48:08.400 --> 0:48:11.200 Jeff, and they're talking about making a rule change because 0:48:11.239 --> 0:48:16.319 of it. It's the unfortunate incident of reactionary sport. It's 0:48:16.400 --> 0:48:18.640 not something that these guys are trying to grab a 0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:21.400 player from behind and drop their body weight on the 0:48:21.440 --> 0:48:22.040 back of legs. 0:48:22.080 --> 0:48:25.920 It's impossible to try to do so from the You know, all. 0:48:25.800 --> 0:48:30.640 These guys in suits talking about changing the push play 0:48:30.719 --> 0:48:35.959 by Philadelphia or changing that one tackle that some head 0:48:36.000 --> 0:48:38.480 coaches complaining about on the sideline. 0:48:38.719 --> 0:48:39.560 My gosh. 0:48:39.880 --> 0:48:43.279 Sometimes it's just the unfortunate part of a sport that 0:48:43.360 --> 0:48:47.080 you're getting paid millions and millions of dollars to play. 0:48:48.160 --> 0:48:52.320 Congussions down the lowest in training camp in seven years. 0:48:52.960 --> 0:48:55.920 I think they believe that's a big reason for the 0:48:56.640 --> 0:49:00.000 Guardian Caps. Do you suspect that they will make everybody 0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:00.719 where those in. 0:49:00.640 --> 0:49:03.080 The in the near future in training camp. 0:49:03.200 --> 0:49:06.280 Yeah, yeah, I mean I I would assume they would, 0:49:07.520 --> 0:49:11.279 you know, if if it is creating a safer head 0:49:11.360 --> 0:49:17.479 atmosphere for the practice and the fundamental teaching of the sport. Yeah, 0:49:17.640 --> 0:49:22.840 I do think, you know, hopefully they will. But you 0:49:22.880 --> 0:49:26.480 know it's you know, I'm glad, I'm glad it is 0:49:26.719 --> 0:49:30.080 it is becoming a safer practice atmosphere, all right. 0:49:30.080 --> 0:49:31.640 I want to go back to one thing we talked 0:49:31.640 --> 0:49:38.200 about in the Tuesday Bears, et cetera, about the passage 0:49:38.239 --> 0:49:41.200 of flag football, and in twenty twenty eight Olympics in 0:49:41.320 --> 0:49:43.400 La and I said, Rob Grongngowski wants to play, and 0:49:43.440 --> 0:49:46.640 all these guys want to play. I hope no pro 0:49:46.760 --> 0:49:50.960 athletes will play in flag football. To really grow it, 0:49:51.200 --> 0:49:54.120 I'd like to get I'd like to have people that 0:49:54.520 --> 0:50:02.040 are not NFL caliber or NFL, USFL, XFL Canadian Football 0:50:02.120 --> 0:50:07.040 League caliber, a group of people that love the game, 0:50:07.280 --> 0:50:10.120 are great athletes, but are not that. But I would 0:50:10.200 --> 0:50:13.400 love them to be able to play, be Olympians, to 0:50:13.520 --> 0:50:17.560 represent the United States in flag football. What's your thought 0:50:17.600 --> 0:50:20.839 on my idea? So you're somebody like. 0:50:20.880 --> 0:50:25.480 Me something you're against the Dream Team yes, so the 0:50:25.560 --> 0:50:30.200 Dream Team went and won the Olympics. You're against that. No, well, listen, 0:50:30.239 --> 0:50:32.279 I'm in agreement with you, Jeff. I want to say 0:50:32.280 --> 0:50:34.919 that I'm just becoming antagonistic right now. 0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:38.080 No, I think there's a lot of great athletes. 0:50:38.160 --> 0:50:41.600 For some reason, they don't have the physical gift to 0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:44.719 play NFL football. But I think there's a lot of 0:50:44.760 --> 0:50:47.680 great athletes that are physically gifted to go out there 0:50:47.960 --> 0:50:52.480 and play flag football and an Olympic type of a level. So, yeah, 0:50:52.719 --> 0:50:55.279 I'm in agreement with you. I guess it would be 0:50:55.360 --> 0:50:58.160 like going to New Zealand or Australian stuff saying I 0:50:58.160 --> 0:51:01.600 hope I don't take their best Australian rules football or 0:51:01.640 --> 0:51:03.560 rugby players and all of a sudden turn them into 0:51:03.600 --> 0:51:04.840 flag football players. 0:51:04.960 --> 0:51:05.320 Yeah. 0:51:05.360 --> 0:51:08.680 So I think there's a lot of dynamic athletes in 0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:11.239 the world that I would like to see them a 0:51:11.320 --> 0:51:16.400 part of the flag football rather than you know, giving 0:51:16.800 --> 0:51:20.040 because I listen, I saw Chad Johnson and I saw 0:51:20.200 --> 0:51:23.279 some guys on TV last night talking about how they 0:51:23.320 --> 0:51:24.720 would they would like to play. 0:51:25.400 --> 0:51:28.040 All right, so I wouldn't mind you going out there 0:51:28.080 --> 0:51:30.520 one more rupbian and offensive line and get an Olympic 0:51:30.560 --> 0:51:33.040 gold medal. But you know, I don't want to ex 0:51:33.080 --> 0:51:33.720 players playing. 0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:36.279 Not a chance I could, Like I say, I could 0:51:36.320 --> 0:51:38.279 get in my stance, but I couldn't get out of 0:51:38.280 --> 0:51:38.840 my stands. 0:51:39.160 --> 0:51:41.799 Good news, Chicago United Airlines getting brand new planes with 0:51:41.840 --> 0:51:44.400 all the bells and whistles, like Bluetooth connectivity screens at 0:51:44.400 --> 0:51:47.680 every seat and room for everyone's ruler bag. United Proud 0:51:47.719 --> 0:51:51.320 to fly to Chicago Bears, and you too, Tom, Thanks again, 0:51:51.600 --> 0:51:53.440 I appreciate it. We'll talk to you next week. 0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:56.040 All right, that'd be number twenty seven. 0:51:56.280 --> 0:51:58.600 Yeah, they're adding up. Can you believe we've done this many? 0:51:59.400 --> 0:51:59.600 Why? 0:52:00.000 --> 0:52:02.200 Well, I was always curious, why do you say that 0:52:02.280 --> 0:52:04.799 number before? Then? Because you know it. 0:52:05.320 --> 0:52:08.360 Well, it's kind of the thing to do in podcasts, 0:52:08.360 --> 0:52:10.920 and hey, we're newbies, so I think it's kind of 0:52:10.920 --> 0:52:13.319 cool that we've already done twenty six episodes. 0:52:13.680 --> 0:52:14.799 Yeah, me too, Me too. 0:52:14.880 --> 0:52:17.600 But you know, I hope that we're we get into 0:52:17.640 --> 0:52:20.680 the hundreds and then the five hundred. You know, I 0:52:21.080 --> 0:52:24.520 don't want it to be a short lived exactly. So 0:52:24.560 --> 0:52:26.360 you got to bring it every show, buddy, and we 0:52:26.480 --> 0:52:27.400 got to get creative. 0:52:28.480 --> 0:52:30.359 Oh hey, I'll be here. 0:52:31.080 --> 0:52:33.839 I can be as angry as you want angry by 0:52:33.960 --> 0:52:36.960 talking about rules committees and all this other baloney. 0:52:37.120 --> 0:52:39.640 Yeah, but you're an idea man, so you got great ideas. 0:52:39.680 --> 0:52:41.360 So we got to get we got to get. You know, 0:52:41.440 --> 0:52:43.480 once the off season hits, we'll get some new stuff 0:52:43.480 --> 0:52:45.320 in here too. So all right, Tom, that's going to 0:52:45.360 --> 0:52:48.080 be it for us. Thanks again, everybody. Our Next Bears 0:52:48.120 --> 0:52:51.320 et cetera podcast drops Tuesday for our week seven recap. 0:52:51.360 --> 0:52:53.760 Thanks for listening, everybody. 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