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Speaker 1: with the voices of the Chicago Bears Jeff Jonyac. All
Speaker 1: right on to another matchup at Sodier Field with the
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders coming up on Sunday on noon kickoff
Speaker 1: at Sojier Field. Welcome into another version of the Bears
Speaker 1: et Cetera podcast, Episode twenty six with Tom There, the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl winning Bears guard. I'm Jeff Jonahac from HALLI Songs.
Speaker 1: We get you set for the breakdown of the Bears
Speaker 1: and Vegas Raiders coming up. Our guest is former NFL
Speaker 1: executive Amy Trask, the former CEO of the Raiders, now
Speaker 1: of CBS Sports and has had a great career post
Speaker 1: football on television as an analyst and all sorts of things.
Speaker 1: One of the most powerful women in the NFL while
Speaker 1: she was in there with al Davis and the crew
Speaker 1: and Tom. That's a rare visit from the Raiders. I
Speaker 1: think this is only the eighth time at Soldier Field,
Speaker 1: so that series started back in nineteen seventy two. But
Speaker 1: the history of that organization is such that it's always
Speaker 1: a fun arrival when you get one of those teams
Speaker 1: that just carry with it a great tradition of winning
Speaker 1: under the Hall of Famer Al Davis Lade al Davis
Speaker 1: and now known as the Vegas Raiders that I still
Speaker 1: haven't gotten used to, but they pose a big threat
Speaker 1: to the Bears on Sunday because of that defense and
Speaker 1: one particular pass rusher in Max Crosby.
Speaker 4: Well, just going back in my memory bank of this rivalry.
Speaker 4: So we played the Raiders in the preseason in Lyle
Speaker 4: Alzado's last game and Lyle Alzado got a tipball interception
Speaker 4: in the game.
Speaker 3: And Lie Alzado back in the day.
Speaker 4: From Yankton College was kind of one of my unsung
Speaker 4: here because when you think about the journey that Tyson
Speaker 4: Baigen is about to begin from Shepherd, how many other
Speaker 4: players have you heard from Yankton College. It's not about
Speaker 4: the college, it's about the person. And I just always
Speaker 4: admired the Raiders from Afar as a kid growing up,
Speaker 4: because of Al Davis, because of their success, because of their.
Speaker 3: Bad boy image. You know.
Speaker 4: Having a chance to play against Lyle Alzado at the
Speaker 4: end of his career was a big thrill for me.
Speaker 4: And now to update it, Yeah, this is a different Raiders.
Speaker 4: This is a Las Vegas Raiders. They're no longer a
Speaker 4: part of the they are a part of the Al
Speaker 4: Davis footprint, but now it's run by his son.
Speaker 3: Obviously they're in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: All right. As of this taping, we don't know who
Speaker 1: the quarterback is going to be for the Raiders. Jimmy
Speaker 1: Garoppolo probably unlikely. Brian Hoyer probably going to be the starter,
Speaker 1: but he had an injury earlier when he got a
Speaker 1: chance to play but finished up that game against New England,
Speaker 1: and Aidan O'Connell kind of rooting. If it's not gonna
Speaker 1: be Jimmy g I'd love to see Aidan O'Connell just
Speaker 1: because of the local factor. Right Stevenson High School, he
Speaker 1: was ninth string and managed to make it on the
Speaker 1: team and then walk on it Purdue and he becomes
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick, and he started Week four against
Speaker 1: the LA Chargers in his rookie season, and he had.
Speaker 3: Proved significantly throughout his college career.
Speaker 4: But if we go back and you would say that
Speaker 4: he you know, the two quarterbacks that could possibly start
Speaker 4: this game, it's not what you thought about when you
Speaker 4: looked at the schedule and you started thinking about what
Speaker 4: the record of the Bears could be. Look at the
Speaker 4: different types of matchups who will be playing at that time,
Speaker 4: and yeah, you know, I'm not really excited to see
Speaker 4: Brian Hoyer play. I've been there, done that. So I
Speaker 4: would like to see a couple of young kids come
Speaker 4: out and play on a Chicago Sunday afternoon and go
Speaker 4: out there and battle and give it their best because
Speaker 4: you imagine the hunger that's just dripping in their mouth
Speaker 4: to prove everybody wrong, but to prove themselves right. So
Speaker 4: I think there's a lot of exciting factors to look
Speaker 4: at when you look at the pursuit what the quarterback
Speaker 4: battle could be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well let's look at toyt tysonvaging. Because I know
Speaker 1: the media on Wednesday up here at hallis all toown.
Speaker 1: We're really trying to underscore the fact, Hey, you know,
Speaker 1: did you ever dream of this moment? Did you ever
Speaker 1: think you were ever going to get here? Listen, he did,
Speaker 1: He knew he was going to get here, and his
Speaker 1: plan was like yours. I'm going to be a football
Speaker 1: player and I don't care where I came from. And
Speaker 1: yeah it is unorthodox, but all roads lead to the NFL.
Speaker 1: We've seen so many guys from different kind of colleges
Speaker 1: quarterback position, not as often clearly Jimmy Garoppolos from Eastern Illinois.
Speaker 1: Tony Romo was from Eastern Illinois. Those are bigger, obviously
Speaker 1: than Division two Shepherd. But if you've got the talent
Speaker 1: and you've got the mind and the ability to process
Speaker 1: get rid of the football like he does, you're going
Speaker 1: to have it chance. And he worked himself into this chance.
Speaker 1: But I'm intrigued because we can make it seem like
Speaker 1: Tommy his dad is a professional arm wrestler and world
Speaker 1: famous and one of the best ever. And he gives
Speaker 1: a lot of credit to his dad. I'm sure his
Speaker 1: dad instilled a ton of confidence. You are a product
Speaker 1: of your environment, good ways and bad and that man
Speaker 1: I've seen some of the videos. That's a man with confidence.
Speaker 1: But this guy walks with a mature confidence. It's not bravado.
Speaker 1: He's not walking around like he owns the place. I
Speaker 1: think that did have a lot. You know, if people
Speaker 1: believe in you, you start to believe in yourself.
Speaker 3: You gotta believe in yourself. I had no backup plan.
Speaker 4: I was all in on the NFL, on professional football,
Speaker 4: and that's the only route I was taking after college.
Speaker 4: He did talk about his backup plan about going back
Speaker 4: and being a teacher at his high school, and you know.
Speaker 3: He would probably been a huge asset to.
Speaker 4: His high school, bringing his in his life experiences and
Speaker 4: being able to pass it along to some of the kids.
Speaker 3: That he would have had a hand in touching their life.
Speaker 4: But I really think down deep, his plan was full
Speaker 4: steam ahead.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be an NFL player.
Speaker 4: I don't care where I came from, but I know
Speaker 4: where I'm going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's listen in to some of his thoughts about
Speaker 1: becoming the starting quarterback and by way of injury to
Speaker 1: Justin Fields this week, as Tim and I have been discussing,
Speaker 1: so here's one of the one of the sound bites
Speaker 1: about always believing Boom.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oddly, I always thought it was gonna happen. I
Speaker 2: think that, you know, me and my dad really were
Speaker 2: the only ones that really thought that this was going
Speaker 2: to happen. And then you know, after that, it was
Speaker 2: just figuring out how I could outwork everybody that you know,
Speaker 2: maybe had maybe had more things, that maybe had more
Speaker 2: things than I did, had better facilities, and you know
Speaker 2: all that stuff. So it was just really just trying
Speaker 2: to you know, get it out the mud, putting a
Speaker 2: lot of work in the in the in the shadow,
Speaker 2: and just so I'd be ready for you know, this
Speaker 2: week backup.
Speaker 3: Plan if you didn't get a shot.
Speaker 1: In the NFL.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was going to.
Speaker 2: Just basically just CrossFit my life away, get as ripped
Speaker 2: and jacked as I possibly could, and be a teacher
Speaker 2: at Martinsburg High School.
Speaker 1: A dream being realized for Tyson, beaging it means everything.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 2: After the last game of my college career, I was
Speaker 2: talking to a good buddy of mine and just kind of,
Speaker 2: you know, we were kind of talking about like, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, no matter how good or bad this goes
Speaker 2: at the next level, you know, there is a there's
Speaker 2: a very big chance that you know, maybe you make
Speaker 2: the team, but you might never get to start a
Speaker 2: game ever again in your whole life. You might never
Speaker 2: get you know that that that QB one role ever again.
Speaker 2: And that's just kind of you know, how the how
Speaker 2: the apple falls from the tree sometimes, But to look
Speaker 2: where I'm at and to look how everything is kind
Speaker 2: of falling into place, just nothing, but you know, extreme
Speaker 2: uh gratitude and just feeling super blessed to you know,
Speaker 2: be able to beat at that kind of motivational role
Speaker 2: in the the younger people in my in my family
Speaker 2: kind of be that person they can look up to
Speaker 2: and just really just motivation for everybody that, you know,
Speaker 2: maybe at a smaller level and all the people back home.
Speaker 1: In time, he had a decision to make because I'm
Speaker 1: sure people were in his ear. And I haven't talked
Speaker 1: to him about this directly, but he looked into other
Speaker 1: colleges before his last year. Notre Dame was one of them.
Speaker 1: He wanted to go to Notre Dame, but they didn't
Speaker 1: offer him anything, and so you know what he just said,
Speaker 1: forget about it, I'm staying here. And they asked him
Speaker 1: if he would be worried at that time about making
Speaker 1: the wrong decision, because you know, were you going to
Speaker 1: get drafted, Were you going to get signed anywhere? If
Speaker 1: you're playing at Sheppard College, a competition is different. But
Speaker 1: he stuck to his guns. Believed he was being coached
Speaker 1: as well as anywhere he'd be getting coached, and he
Speaker 1: knew the system very well and he was very successful
Speaker 1: when it worked out. This one worked out well.
Speaker 4: You know, a football development, especially at the quarterback position,
Speaker 4: is live reps and how many of the how many
Speaker 4: of the coaching points that they can give you over
Speaker 4: a four year period, you know, understanding the timing of
Speaker 4: the understanding your accuracy, how to develop your body along
Speaker 4: the way, and then you're going to bring that to
Speaker 4: the next level wherever you are. I think he made
Speaker 4: the right choice in staying at Shepherd rather than going
Speaker 4: to a program that maybe they went and recruited a
Speaker 4: freshmen that they believe that they should start getting him
Speaker 4: involved in the program immediately and leave this transfer kid behind.
Speaker 4: So I think he made the right decision. I think
Speaker 4: he's proved the coaches here in Chicago that he has
Speaker 4: and now I mean shoots the opportunity of a lifetime
Speaker 4: to start the game against the Las Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the only difference I guess is he could have
Speaker 1: played himself into a draft selection and get a contract
Speaker 1: of some sort other than an undrafted free agent. But hey,
Speaker 1: that's just that's history. Now he's earning his opportunity. He's
Speaker 1: earned his opportunity by being a well mean, well meaning
Speaker 1: drive to get here number one, prove in practices what
Speaker 1: he's learned. He's taken it from the classroom to the
Speaker 1: playing field. They're not just going to make him the
Speaker 1: number two just because they had to believe in him.
Speaker 1: And believe me, there were a lot of high grades
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Speaker 3: It's gonna be about one thing about Tyson.
Speaker 4: No, it's equally as a gutsy call for him to
Speaker 4: be a free agent and come to Chicago, giving where
Speaker 4: Justin Fields is in his career as a was gutsy
Speaker 4: for him to stay at Shepherd. So there's been a
Speaker 4: couple of decisions in the last couple of years in
Speaker 4: this football life that have been the right decisions for him.
Speaker 4: And listen, when Justin comes back and he's healthy, he
Speaker 4: is going to be the starting quarterback. However, to take
Speaker 4: the chance and come here as a free agent, you
Speaker 4: never know how things are going to work out.
Speaker 1: Here's a question he was asking why he's not overwhelmed details.
Speaker 2: You know a lot of details. Obviously, the team I'm
Speaker 2: going against Sunday is a little bit better than west Chester.
Speaker 2: But yeah, other than that, the other teams a little
Speaker 2: bit smarter than than they were a year ago, and
Speaker 2: there's quite a bit more details than there where a
Speaker 2: year ago. So other than that, you still just, you know,
Speaker 2: play hard and operate and sync with the with the
Speaker 2: guys you got. You know, I think my life has
Speaker 2: been planned out for me ahead of time. I think
Speaker 2: that everything that happened, that has happened and will happen
Speaker 2: was already setting stone to happen. And I think that,
Speaker 2: you know, coming more up from where I come from,
Speaker 2: you know, I've pretty much beat every odd that there
Speaker 2: was for me, So you know, I got nothing to lose.
Speaker 2: I'm just you know, I'm gonna go out there and
Speaker 2: you know, fight with these guys to the death, and
Speaker 2: you know, try to stack up as many wins as
Speaker 2: I can till till we get justin back.
Speaker 1: And it's a great answer, Tom, And to piggyback on
Speaker 1: what you said about you know what his plan was,
Speaker 1: high school teacher. That's after he was gonna quote cross
Speaker 1: fit his life away and just get all yoked up
Speaker 1: and muscled up. I'm sure he was doing push up
Speaker 1: two with that that dad of his right.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I think that he's been around the
Speaker 4: weight room. He understands the important of physical fitness. And
Speaker 4: you know, if he would have put the same effort
Speaker 4: into being a CrossFit ripped guy at a young age
Speaker 4: you know that he did in football, he would have
Speaker 4: probably been equally as successful.
Speaker 3: But I'm glad it worked out for him.
Speaker 4: And he's he's earned the opportunity that he's going to get.
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Speaker 1: Let's transition to our interview with sports executive author and
Speaker 1: lawyer Amy Trask, the former CEO of the Oakland the
Speaker 1: then Oakland Raiders and now they're known as the Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 1: It's a long, long list of accomplishments and participation in
Speaker 1: a variety of projects. One right now with Susie Schuster
Speaker 1: on What the Football Podcast? Find it anywhere you get
Speaker 1: your podcasts down the rich Isen Show YouTube channel. Also
Speaker 1: on the crew of the that Other pregame show NFL
Speaker 1: on CBS dot Net. Find ex Bears Kyle Long and Brockveren,
Speaker 1: Tom remember Brockveren, a safety for the Bears, and Adam Schein.
Speaker 1: Of course that's just scratching the service, but the big
Speaker 1: picture the first female CEO in the National Football League
Speaker 1: with the Raiders, Amy Trask, Thanks for joining us. I
Speaker 1: know there's a lot to you, so we're going to
Speaker 1: try and hit all these different things. But I enjoying
Speaker 1: the post CEO life.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 5: You are very very very kind to have me on
Speaker 5: and extraordinarily gracious in the introduction. Thank you in both regards,
Speaker 5: and I'm enjoying it a lot. You know what I'm
Speaker 5: doing the things which scare me the most, and that's
Speaker 5: kind of fun.
Speaker 1: What scares you? Podcasts, a microphone.
Speaker 5: Well, television cameras, cameras of any sort. As you can see,
Speaker 5: I'm doing this without video. Cameras have scared me since
Speaker 5: I was a kid, if you go back and look
Speaker 5: at home movies.
Speaker 6: Google it.
Speaker 5: Kids, we had movies back in the day like those
Speaker 5: actually little movie cameras, and your family would take movies
Speaker 5: in any home movies. I'm not in any home pictures,
Speaker 5: family pictures. I just I don't like cameras, and so
Speaker 5: being on television is facing my biggest fear and it's
Speaker 5: kind of fun, you.
Speaker 4: Know, Amy, It might be kind of weird because I
Speaker 4: was born in nineteen sixty one if you're familiar with
Speaker 4: that year, and I didn't grow up with a family
Speaker 4: with a lot of cameras and a lot of movies.
Speaker 4: So I wasn't a big part of myself. And I
Speaker 4: think that was a part of my upbringing at that age,
Speaker 4: and so I don't think it's uncommon for people to
Speaker 4: shy away from that.
Speaker 3: You know. My first question is about being a CEO.
Speaker 4: Did anybody ever discourage you from being a CEO in
Speaker 4: this business?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 5: Now that said, I didn't begin my career. I didn't
Speaker 5: embark upon it with any particular goal of being a
Speaker 5: CEO in.
Speaker 6: Mind, or you know.
Speaker 5: I joined the Greater Organization as an intern, and I
Speaker 5: was relled to be part of the team any responsibility
Speaker 5: I could have had, any role I could have had.
Speaker 5: If my job was to stand on the sideline and
Speaker 5: pick up those scrunched up cups that players throw on
Speaker 5: the ground, I would have been thrilled to do that.
Speaker 5: So yes, I was given an opportunity to grow within
Speaker 5: the organization, and that speaks to volumes about al Davis.
Speaker 5: But I didn't join the organization with any specific goal
Speaker 5: or planned in mind.
Speaker 4: So I went to college with Hannah Storm, and the
Speaker 4: very first day I met her on campus, I said, well,
Speaker 4: what are you going to do after college? She goes,
Speaker 4: I'm going to be a sportscaster, and I go, wow,
Speaker 4: that's super ambitious, considering there wasn't a lot of females
Speaker 4: in the role at that time. After that, you were
Speaker 4: a part of the Raiders organization, did you immediately set
Speaker 4: your sites on this as your profession or were you
Speaker 4: still looking at the outside possibilities or did you know
Speaker 4: that it was kind of hook line and sinker into
Speaker 4: the world of professional sports.
Speaker 5: Oh, once I joined the organization, that was the dream
Speaker 5: come true. As I said, I joined as an intern
Speaker 5: during grad school. I started grad school and I heard
Speaker 5: all these students who were about a year ahead of me,
Speaker 5: sitting around one day talking about internships and externships. I'd
Speaker 5: never even heard the word externship before, but I picked
Speaker 5: up the phone and I called the Raider Organization and
Speaker 5: asked if I could be an intern. And the gentleman
Speaker 5: with whom I spoke said, what's an intern? And I
Speaker 5: told him and he said, come on down.
Speaker 6: And I started.
Speaker 5: And there was no full time job available for me
Speaker 5: when I graduated grad school, so I took another job
Speaker 5: for about a year. Got a phone call from the
Speaker 5: Raider Organization saying, we have an opening. Would you like
Speaker 5: to join us? And I ran so fast to give
Speaker 5: notice where I was working that I was going to
Speaker 5: leave for the Raiders that seriously had al seen me.
Speaker 6: I ran so fast he might assign me to play corner.
Speaker 1: Well he did like speed, Oh yeah, yep.
Speaker 5: And as Cliff Brant said to me, for years and
Speaker 5: years and years and years, speed.
Speaker 1: Kills it certainly does.
Speaker 5: So you know, I joined the organization, and as I said,
Speaker 5: I was so thrilled to be part of the team
Speaker 5: that my specific role was not of import to me.
Speaker 6: Contributing in any way I could was what I wanted
Speaker 6: to do.
Speaker 1: Amy Trask our guest here Around Bears, et cetera with
Speaker 1: top dayer Jeff Joniac. Interesting insights as the Bears. You're
Speaker 1: ready to meet the Raiders Sunday twelve oh two at
Speaker 1: Soldier Field. Tom and I have the call on ESPN
Speaker 1: one thousand and the Bears Radio Network. All right, this
Speaker 1: is a very specific question and it's short. What did
Speaker 1: Al Davis c in? Amy Trask?
Speaker 5: You know, I'm not going to speak for him. I
Speaker 5: will say, however, that I think we shared a few
Speaker 5: things in common.
Speaker 6: We're both contrarians.
Speaker 5: I've always been a contrarian, and there's nothing contrary about
Speaker 5: being a contrarian.
Speaker 6: It can be a good thing, you know.
Speaker 5: The biggest misconception about Al is that he wouldn't tolerate
Speaker 5: anyone who disagreed with him, or he wouldn't tolerate disagreement.
Speaker 5: If that were the case, I would have been fired.
Speaker 5: Roughly two two and a half weeks into my job,
Speaker 5: he walked into a room where I was sitting with
Speaker 5: a co worker.
Speaker 6: Ripped into that guy. I mean just ripped into him.
Speaker 5: The analogy I often use is it's the way I
Speaker 5: can imagine a velociraptor ripping into flesh. And I listened
Speaker 5: for a little bit and I realized al was wrong.
Speaker 5: So here I am, you know, two two and a
Speaker 5: half weeks into my job, and I said, excuse me,
Speaker 5: you're wrong, and I had to say it loudly because
Speaker 5: he was shouting, and so I kind of shouted, you're wrong.
Speaker 5: And I will never forget the look on his face
Speaker 5: when his head turned and looked at me.
Speaker 6: Like, what did you just say?
Speaker 5: And I went on to explain to him, Look, if
Speaker 5: you were basing your conclusion on accurate data, accurate information,
Speaker 5: that would be a fair conclusion. But you are basing
Speaker 5: your conclusion on an accurate data, and your conclusion is wrong.
Speaker 6: He hollered.
Speaker 5: And when I say hollered, I mean we were having
Speaker 5: a spirited debate and we both were speaking loudly, and
Speaker 5: he said something and I said something, and we went
Speaker 5: back and forth, back and forth. And I didn't realize
Speaker 5: until I was told much, much much later. Apparently people
Speaker 5: in the building were like, what is going on? You
Speaker 5: know this girl who's been here like two weeks?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 5: They were rushed up and they were standing in the
Speaker 5: hallway outside the room where we were having this argument.
Speaker 5: This disagreement. One person even brought a box because she
Speaker 5: figured I'd have to pack my fings. But at the
Speaker 5: end of this argument, he looked at me and he
Speaker 5: just said, oh, okay, I gotcha, I got it.
Speaker 6: I got it.
Speaker 5: And we went on to have a great conversation. And
Speaker 5: I learned at that moment, roughly two two and a
Speaker 5: half weeks into my career, you absolutely could disagree with
Speaker 5: al and I believed that when it was appropriate, I
Speaker 5: should disagree with him. I disagreed with him more than
Speaker 5: I agreed with him over the course of almost thirty years.
Speaker 5: And I think the fact that I did that only
Speaker 5: too so weeks into my job that stuck out to
Speaker 5: him as well. I think that, Okay, here's this girl.
Speaker 5: She's been here roughly two two and a half weeks,
Speaker 5: and she's telling me I'm wrong. I think that got
Speaker 5: our relationship off on the right foot.
Speaker 1: Well, I've got two daughters and they tell me I'm
Speaker 1: wrong every day, and they both want to be in sports,
Speaker 1: so they got a good head start.
Speaker 6: Well wait a minute, wait a minute, how old are they?
Speaker 1: How old are there grad school level women? So one
Speaker 1: at UNC and one at High Point University. So Tom's
Speaker 1: like their grandpa or their uncle. I don't know which,
Speaker 1: but it depends how what kind of crankiness he is.
Speaker 5: I was about to say, if they were pre teens
Speaker 5: or a team, just buckle buckle up.
Speaker 6: But they're obviously past that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got through that. I got through that stage
Speaker 1: CEO of the Raiders, sixteen of twenty six years in
Speaker 1: the organization, and you know, I often hear that general
Speaker 1: managers or team presidents or whatnot during the course of
Speaker 1: my twenty seven years associated with this franchise, they don't
Speaker 1: want to have me. They use that term, yes, men,
Speaker 1: but it often has existed that way. Or coaches who
Speaker 1: leave their doors shut they don't want to hear anything
Speaker 1: from anybody else. And clearly that was just the opposite
Speaker 1: in the Raiders organization under Al Davis. How important is
Speaker 1: that at every level of an organization to have good
Speaker 1: conversation and flow and challenge each other.
Speaker 5: You just took the words out of my mouth because
Speaker 5: I was going to say every organization this just isn't
Speaker 5: with respect to sports teams. In my view, every single organization,
Speaker 5: every business, every organization benefits from an environment in which
Speaker 5: people feel not only free to but welcome to and
Speaker 5: encouraged to disagree with one another. Look number one, there
Speaker 5: can be very, very heated disagreements, but disagreement can be agreeable.
Speaker 5: In other words, it doesn't need to be personalized, it
Speaker 5: doesn't need to be nasty, it doesn't need to be offensive.
Speaker 5: But disagreement is healthy. Agreement is good for a business.
Speaker 5: If you have any sort of business whatsoever, any organization whatsoever,
Speaker 5: and you don't encourage people to disagree, you're harming your
Speaker 5: business because the last thing you need is people simply
Speaker 5: saying yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, because yes might not
Speaker 5: be the best answer. And by the way, it doesn't
Speaker 5: matter if you make a suggestion that's a bad suggestion,
Speaker 5: because even out of the worst suggestions can come good ideas.
Speaker 4: You know, Amy, we had a guy that worked for
Speaker 4: the Bears for over forty years. He was the first
Speaker 4: straint coach in the history of the NFL. His name
Speaker 4: was Clyde Emerck, and he always used to say knowledge
Speaker 4: earned is greater than knowledge learned. So my question to
Speaker 4: you is did your education help or did the business
Speaker 4: educate you?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 5: And yes, I think the education was very important to me,
Speaker 5: both in terms of that which I learned and that
Speaker 5: which I was able to apply in business. But also
Speaker 5: I think having a graduate degree gave me a little
Speaker 5: bit of extra gravitas in the following regard. Remember, I
Speaker 5: started my career with the Raiders well before a lot
Speaker 5: of people listening to this were even born. I started
Speaker 5: as an intern in like eighty three, and was there
Speaker 5: eighty three eighty five as an intern, and then you know,
Speaker 5: give or take, maybe it even went into eighty No,
Speaker 5: I guess it was eighty three eighty five, was an intern.
Speaker 6: I joined full time in eighty seven. You know, these.
Speaker 5: Conversations we're having now about women in sports, those weren't
Speaker 5: even conversations back then. So I think the graduate degree
Speaker 5: did one other thing for me, a little bit of
Speaker 5: extra gravitas that may have helped.
Speaker 4: So all right, I was drafted in eighty three into
Speaker 4: the NFL, so we have a kind of a similar timeline.
Speaker 3: But when I follow the Raiders, which I have my
Speaker 3: whole life.
Speaker 4: You're talking about being in Oakland, being in LA being
Speaker 4: back in Oakland, having all this stadium, kind of discussions
Speaker 4: through Al Davis of all these different towns. Did that
Speaker 4: affect or interfere with the job or the Raiders or
Speaker 4: was it a process? Because there was so much uncertainty
Speaker 4: in the NFL in those days that it was good
Speaker 4: conversation that Al Davis continued.
Speaker 3: To have that.
Speaker 6: I guess yes and yes and no and no.
Speaker 5: But before I answer that which I will, I just
Speaker 5: want to tell you I was smiling ear to ear
Speaker 5: when you told me to hear that you were drafted,
Speaker 5: because once during my career, at one point I was
Speaker 5: in Al's office and we were talking about a number
Speaker 5: of things, and Tim Brown's name came up, and Tim
Speaker 5: was drafted shortly after I began my career full time,
Speaker 5: not when I was an intern, but when I joined
Speaker 5: as a full time employee. And I said to Al,
Speaker 5: you know, Tim was drafted sort of shortly after I
Speaker 5: began as a full time employee. So it's sort of
Speaker 5: like Tim and I were in the same draft class.
Speaker 5: And Al looks at me and says, all looks at
Speaker 5: me and says, Tim was a first round pick. You
Speaker 5: were a street free agent, And he, of course was
Speaker 5: absolutely right. Look, you know, Al, I was not with
Speaker 5: the organization when Al moved it initially from Oakland down
Speaker 5: to Los Angeles. I was in college at the time
Speaker 5: in the Bay Area, not far from Oakland. I was
Speaker 5: up the freeway at cal Berkeley. I was with the
Speaker 5: organization when he chose to move it back to Oakland,
Speaker 5: and then I chose to leave the organization before the
Speaker 5: time that Mark chose to move it to Las Vegas
Speaker 5: because and this, and the reason I share that is
Speaker 5: it goes to your question. One of the reasons I
Speaker 5: did choose to leave the organization was I saw that
Speaker 5: writing on the wall. I knew that he was going
Speaker 5: to make the decision to move the team, and having
Speaker 5: seen the impact of moving a team on the fans,
Speaker 5: that's not something with which I wanted to be associated again.
Speaker 6: You know, I'm sorry, go ahead, no, No, you go ahead,
Speaker 6: you go ahead.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 4: I was sorry to interrupt, but I was thinking about
Speaker 4: Tim Brown because I also went to Notre Dame, and
Speaker 4: I know you went to graduate school at USC so
Speaker 4: you went to cal Berkeley, and you so where is
Speaker 4: your loyalty at this time in your college football life.
Speaker 5: I am so glad you asked that, and you posited it.
Speaker 5: I think I just add too many ededs to posit it.
Speaker 4: Did it?
Speaker 6: Did it?
Speaker 5: You pose that exactly as I would love you to
Speaker 5: because one hundred percent of my college football loyalty lies
Speaker 5: with my California Golden Bears.
Speaker 6: And by the way, in grad school, that was.
Speaker 5: What I found to be the case with all my
Speaker 5: you know, co students, if you will, that if you
Speaker 5: went to an undergrad program where they had football, if
Speaker 5: you went to an undergraduate school with a big football program,
Speaker 5: your allegiance rested with your undergrad The people in grad
Speaker 5: school who gravitated towards rooting for that team were ones
Speaker 5: who went to college where they really didn't have big
Speaker 5: football programs. And by the way, I'm still annoyed at
Speaker 5: the whole usc UCLA fleeing the Pac twelve because I
Speaker 5: believe that began its demise.
Speaker 1: Amy Trask, our guest here on Bears, etc. Remaining moments,
Speaker 1: This is quite the label to go into the rest
Speaker 1: of your professional life. Named one of the top one
Speaker 1: hundred greatest game changers in NFL history during the commemoration
Speaker 1: of the one hundred year anniversary, which Tom and I
Speaker 1: were very much a part of. Here were the Bears
Speaker 1: franchise born in nineteen twenty, the original franchise of the
Speaker 1: National Football League. How impactful was that moment for you
Speaker 1: to be acknowledged in that regard.
Speaker 5: When I found out, I cried, I didn't know about it,
Speaker 5: and it was the day that it happened, and I
Speaker 5: started getting all these phone calls and people started telling
Speaker 5: me about it. I had no idea whatsoever. And when
Speaker 5: I learned about it, I'm actually getting goosebumps right now.
Speaker 5: And I promise, I promised to try not to cry
Speaker 5: on your podcast, but I was so overwhelmed by it.
Speaker 5: I really was that I started crying and I picked
Speaker 5: And the reason I share that is I immediately picked
Speaker 5: up the phone and called my husband.
Speaker 6: He was at his office.
Speaker 5: And I'm now sobbing because when I cry, I cry,
Speaker 5: and I pick up the phone and I'm crying and
Speaker 5: I'm sobbing, and I finally blurt out the reason that
Speaker 5: I'm crying, and my husband says, wow, Wow, that's just magnificent.
Speaker 5: But next time you call me, could you not be
Speaker 5: sobbing like this? Because I thought someone die. That's not
Speaker 5: much I was crying.
Speaker 1: Oh it's a it's a great story. And we both
Speaker 1: Tom and I we we are blessed to be in
Speaker 1: this game for as long as we have Tom as
Speaker 1: a player and a long time broadcaster and me, you know,
Speaker 1: just following the lead guard here on.
Speaker 5: No, no, no, well, well, first of all, don't undertale yourself.
Speaker 6: You are not simply following the lead guard.
Speaker 5: But but but always, always, always follow the lead guard.
Speaker 6: And I don't need to tell you this man.
Speaker 5: Most games are one or lost at the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 6: So follow that lead guard. That's a very smart idea.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 1: It's it's the smartest thing I could come up with.
Speaker 1: But I was a pro for that one hundred. I
Speaker 1: was approached by Westwood one because of Devin Hester's opening
Speaker 1: kickoff return of the two thousand and six Super Bowl
Speaker 1: in Miami, and he said, hey, just so you know,
Speaker 1: that's going to be one of the top one hundred
Speaker 1: plays in Super Bowl history. And I too started crying.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe. You know, that calls in the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame. And that's a little short, fat kid like
Speaker 1: me was never getting in the Hall of Fame any
Speaker 1: other way. So that was it. But before we let
Speaker 1: you go, so Karen Murphy, Senior Vice president of Business
Speaker 1: Strategy and CFO of the Bears, Tanisha Wade, Senior Vice
Speaker 1: President of DEI of the Bears Ashton Washington player personnel coordinator,
Speaker 1: one of the new wave of women getting involved in
Speaker 1: football operations. I could go down the list. The Bears
Speaker 1: are very committed to diversity, equity and inclusion. What would
Speaker 1: be your advice to some of these women in high
Speaker 1: positions in this Bears franchise moving forward?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 5: The same advice that I give the same advice to
Speaker 5: women in their career, starting out in their careers, or
Speaker 5: who will well into their careers that I give to men,
Speaker 5: which is work hard, work as hard as you can.
Speaker 5: When you think you can't work any harder, find a
Speaker 5: way to work harder. And as I said that applies
Speaker 5: to women, that applies to men. The other thing that
Speaker 5: I will say is the best advice I ever received
Speaker 5: in my whole life was from my mom, who told
Speaker 5: me when I was a very little girl, to thine
Speaker 5: own self be true, and as moms can do, she
Speaker 5: told me that over and over and over again, and
Speaker 5: as little girls can do. I rolled my eyes when
Speaker 5: she did, But it's the best advice I've ever received.
Speaker 5: To thine own self be true. And I would say
Speaker 5: to the women you just mentioned and to others, to
Speaker 5: thine own self be true, comport yourself, do your job,
Speaker 5: handle yourself in the manner.
Speaker 6: That feels best to you, that feels right to you.
Speaker 5: My only or, I should say, my biggest regrets have
Speaker 5: been when I was not true to myself.
Speaker 1: Terrific advice, appreciate it. Only Gene Upshaw could have come
Speaker 1: up with a better line than the Hall of Famer
Speaker 1: and former head of the Players Association. She's not a girl, Tom,
Speaker 1: She's a raider. And that raider.
Speaker 6: Are you guys trying to make me cry again?
Speaker 1: Listen? That raider mystique? You know, well, I'm sure we'll
Speaker 1: feel it in some former fashion when the Vegas Raiders
Speaker 1: take the field on Sunday. I know Tom is very
Speaker 1: close friends with Chris Berman, and so nobody says al
Speaker 1: writers like uh like like mister Berman. I just you
Speaker 1: know we both love the history of football and the
Speaker 1: history of football because of Al Davis, because of individuals
Speaker 1: like George Hallis.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Even though we don't play each other very often. It
Speaker 1: it's it's I'm looking forward to just seeing the silver
Speaker 1: and black on the field facing our beloved bears here.
Speaker 1: So it's it's important to the history of the NFL.
Speaker 1: Would you agree.
Speaker 6: You stated that perfectly.
Speaker 5: There's nothing I can add other than to very very
Speaker 5: storied franchises that are very very good for the National
Speaker 5: Football League, and it is terrific when they meet.
Speaker 6: But you know, if you guys.
Speaker 5: Lived closer to me, like if Chicago wasn't so far
Speaker 5: from Los Angeles, and if I didn't almost freeze to
Speaker 5: death when I was once in Chicago, I would say,
Speaker 5: if we were closer, we could bet ice cream on
Speaker 5: the game.
Speaker 6: But we'll We'll just have to enjoy it.
Speaker 5: You know what if the Raiders win, When the Raiders win,
Speaker 5: I should say, for Raider fans, I'm going to have
Speaker 5: some ice cream and toast you from Afar.
Speaker 6: And if you should win, you should do the same.
Speaker 1: Sounds like a plan. Sounds like a plan. Amy, appreciate
Speaker 1: all your time, really enjoy it and continued success. And
Speaker 1: you know, don't be shy of the camera.
Speaker 3: You know what, well, thank you.
Speaker 1: The camera loves you so love the camera.
Speaker 6: Ban how about that.
Speaker 5: But I'm a big fan of your work and I
Speaker 5: appreciate you having me on.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Thank you all right, Tom, A
Speaker 1: wonderful journey that she shared with us has been so
Speaker 1: impactful and that's certainly breaking down some barriers as a
Speaker 1: female executive in what at that time was definitely a
Speaker 1: male driven sport in all levels. So now we're seeing
Speaker 1: more and more women in all aspects of football, behind
Speaker 1: the scenes, marketing, executive level, training room, practice, field coaches,
Speaker 1: you name it.
Speaker 4: They are a part of football, and I think they're
Speaker 4: having an impact on the game, whether it's Sarah Thomas
Speaker 4: officiated the game this weekend, or the you know, the
Speaker 4: female executives that have been become a part of the
Speaker 4: front office, to the training staffs all over the NFL.
Speaker 4: So I think it's a remarkable journey and I think
Speaker 4: it benefits the NFL to have that type of growth
Speaker 4: in its infrastructure.
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Speaker 1: All right, so we mentioned a lot about Tyson Beijen.
Speaker 1: What are your expectations as you look at the tape
Speaker 1: and know what kind of defense the Vegas Raiders are
Speaker 1: going to present on Sunday at Soldier Field. What would
Speaker 1: what would you like to see him do within the
Speaker 1: context and the framework of the of the Bears offense.
Speaker 4: You know, I think he has to understand the timing
Speaker 4: in his head in the type of pressure that the
Speaker 4: Raiders can provide or put on you. But only work
Speaker 4: within the structure of the play. Don't don't try to
Speaker 4: make an unrealistic play, an unrealistic throw. Make sure that
Speaker 4: you kind of get out there at the beginning of
Speaker 4: the game, get your second wind, and I think the
Speaker 4: tempo the game will slow down for you a little bit,
Speaker 4: and then it's going to be you know, maybe even
Speaker 4: you know, talking to Luke Getzi about his most confident
Speaker 4: plays to start the game with, where he feels the best,
Speaker 4: and you know who we would like to throw the
Speaker 4: ball too, because I think Tyson's been here long enough
Speaker 4: that he knows every one of these receivers. He's had
Speaker 4: a lot of time with the starting guys throughout the
Speaker 4: course of this week and the backup guys that are
Speaker 4: going to play a role in this game.
Speaker 3: Now that you're getting into depth.
Speaker 4: Like Tyler Scott and Dayles Jones Junior, and even Deonta
Speaker 4: Foreman for that matter. So go out there and play
Speaker 4: football like you've been learning and preparing for your whole life,
Speaker 4: and just cut it loose man, and understand the down
Speaker 4: and distance, the field position of every play so you
Speaker 4: have a better understanding if you got to just get
Speaker 4: rid of the ball harmlessly out of bounds.
Speaker 1: Not to keep belaboring his performance or how he's looking
Speaker 1: at it, but one more if I may, I was
Speaker 1: impressed when he said he told the coaches last Sunday
Speaker 1: against Minnesota and he was going to be put in
Speaker 1: the game. Hey, don't hold anything back. I know the
Speaker 1: game plan. I got it. So whatever play you want to,
Speaker 1: I got it. I mean, that's impressive. And they knew
Speaker 1: that though, because they're watching these guys prepare and he's
Speaker 1: prepared like a starter. It's the cliche, but it's the reality.
Speaker 1: As the backup quarterback, you're one one bad hit away
Speaker 1: from being in the game, and that turned out to
Speaker 1: be the case last week. Does that give you confidence
Speaker 1: that he's going to execute this game plan at a
Speaker 1: high level.
Speaker 4: Heck yeah, listen, man, Jeff, I've been I've been in
Speaker 4: this game before. Mike Tomzach was an undrafted free agent
Speaker 4: out of Ohio State when he came to the Chicago
Speaker 4: Bears in nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 3: He made the.
Speaker 4: Team and he played, and he won his first ten
Speaker 4: starts in the NFL. So this is not untapped territory
Speaker 4: for the quarterback position for the Chicago Bears. For my
Speaker 4: experiences that I went through and now what the Bears
Speaker 4: are going to go through with Tyson beagent. So that's
Speaker 4: why he you know, he's eye to eye contact with
Speaker 4: the coaches on the sideline telling them, look, I know
Speaker 4: what I'm doing. I know, let's go to work and
Speaker 4: let's put this plan of an attack in place. And
Speaker 4: you know, I think whatever position you play, you know
Speaker 4: only because I was an offensive lineman and I didn't
Speaker 4: have any notification, but when I was going to go
Speaker 4: into the game, it was injury you're in.
Speaker 3: And that's the same thing with Tyson.
Speaker 4: And I think that he performed admirably, But I think
Speaker 4: when you have a chance to have a full week
Speaker 4: of coaching under your belt, I think we're going to
Speaker 4: see even a better performance out of Tyson.
Speaker 3: Tom.
Speaker 1: We talked to Deontay Forman this week for our Bears
Speaker 1: Weekly Interview that you can hear on ESPN one thousand
Speaker 1: and six o'clock on Thursday nights. And I hope that
Speaker 1: they do have a pretty steady diet of run game
Speaker 1: against the Raiders, run at Crosby, kind of mute the
Speaker 1: pass rush if they so desire. After watching how the
Speaker 1: Blitzes have affected this team over the course of the season,
Speaker 1: hopefully they will be toned down a bit on that.
Speaker 1: In that regard run the ball and that guy he's
Speaker 1: ready to get lathered up. I got that impression. And
Speaker 1: from sitting next to them, how about you, Yeah.
Speaker 4: You know you're gonna have to run the ball because
Speaker 4: that's the traits, that's the mo of the Chicago Bearris
Speaker 4: football team.
Speaker 3: You're not going to become a.
Speaker 4: Sixty pass a game team because you're starting Tyson Baja. No,
Speaker 4: you're going to have the carry blasting game in there,
Speaker 4: car blocking for the ball carriers. You're going to have
Speaker 4: a slew of guys that can carry the ball, starting
Speaker 4: with Deonta Foreman. But I would like to see more
Speaker 4: opportunities from the running back position from Dayles Jones Junior
Speaker 4: and when you look at the Raiders, though, Jeff, this
Speaker 4: is a different pass attacking team than the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 4: So the timing and the protection is going to be
Speaker 4: a lot different than it was against Minnesota. And those
Speaker 4: are the things that the guys in front of them
Speaker 4: that have those responsibilities are going to have to understand
Speaker 4: how they need to perform to put Tyson in that
Speaker 4: comfort zone.
Speaker 1: He tell me, what sense? What's the difference?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 4: So when you look at the Minnesota bike, he's from
Speaker 4: the very first play of the game. The Chicago Bears
Speaker 4: had five blockers. They're all offensive linemen. Minnesota had six
Speaker 4: linemen at the line of scrimmage. Some of them are
Speaker 4: outside linebackers, but they're still on the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 4: So when you have guys jet that are block coming
Speaker 4: from the line of scrimmage, everybody knows who their responsibility is.
Speaker 4: They don't do that in the raid of The Raiders
Speaker 4: are a multi level blitzing team. So now if you
Speaker 4: have a guy in a three point stance in his
Speaker 4: hand down, he's automatically the responsibility of an offensive lineman.
Speaker 4: If you have a blitzer that's coming from the second level,
Speaker 4: if you don't point them out and you tell the
Speaker 4: offensive line so and so is Mike. He's our responsibility.
Speaker 4: And there's another blitzer that comes from the second level,
Speaker 4: that's the responsibility of the back. Sometimes they come from
Speaker 4: the third level. So it's a lot easier to identify
Speaker 4: responsibilities when everybody's lined up on the line scrimmage. When
Speaker 4: blitzers come from the second level, you got to make
Speaker 4: sure the running back understands his assignment according to the
Speaker 4: protection and how everybody's everybody is identifying their responsibility.
Speaker 1: Patrick Graham is the defensive coordinator. I'm certain then, coming
Speaker 1: from the New England program with Josh McDaniels. Is this
Speaker 1: going to be a special game plan then, because that's
Speaker 1: what Belichick does, special game plan each week.
Speaker 4: Well, it's going to be special because they're going to
Speaker 4: feel that they can take advantage of a first time
Speaker 4: starting quarterback.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a special game plan.
Speaker 4: Because they're going to look at what the changes are,
Speaker 4: if there are any on the offensive line, and then
Speaker 4: how they can take it and take advantage of the
Speaker 4: new matchups. But they're going to do what they do well.
Speaker 4: They're gonna do what is their main influence, and that's
Speaker 4: Matt Crosby and so on down the line. But they're
Speaker 4: not going to start all of a sudden lining up
Speaker 4: differently than they have.
Speaker 3: Since Josh McDaniels has got there. It's just gonna be.
Speaker 4: They're gonna come from different levels, and they're gonna see
Speaker 4: if the Bears are have the ability to identify that,
Speaker 4: like I said, identify their responsibilities.
Speaker 1: He definitely tends the blitz more on third and of
Speaker 1: course fourth down, so and zone defense is his primary.
Speaker 1: But it's a three four with the linebackers in a
Speaker 1: two point stance. So that's that's Patrick Graham and the
Speaker 1: three and three raiders. Let's talk offense because again we
Speaker 1: don't know who the quarterback is going to be, but
Speaker 1: they they have Josh Jacobs. He was the NFL rushing
Speaker 1: leader last year and he's an outstanding pass receiver. He's
Speaker 1: been targeted thirty times more than any other back in
Speaker 1: football this year, but his rushing yardage is way down.
Speaker 1: What have you seen on tape that leads you to
Speaker 1: believe that what's going on there? Because he was outstanding
Speaker 1: a year ago.
Speaker 4: You know, the offensive line, they're not guys, you know,
Speaker 4: they're not the hogs from the Washington Redskins.
Speaker 3: They're not the Bears offensive lines from nineteen eighty five.
Speaker 4: They are an offensive line and because of changes are
Speaker 4: so frequently made nowadays in the NFL, you don't get
Speaker 4: a group of guys that have played forty fifty sixty
Speaker 4: games together. You have a lot of interchangeable bodies there,
Speaker 4: and so I don't think they really developed a good
Speaker 4: relationship yet with Josh Jacobs, and so they're kind of said, Okay,
Speaker 4: we related the league in rushing last year, We're going
Speaker 4: to do it again because Josh signed a new contract,
Speaker 4: And that's.
Speaker 3: Just the way it's going to be.
Speaker 4: No, it isn't because you put every single defensive team
Speaker 4: on high alert and they know, look, if you stop
Speaker 4: the running game, you're going to put the game into
Speaker 4: the hands of Jimmy Garoppolo.
Speaker 3: And he's a good quarterback.
Speaker 4: But he's also the guy if you put that, you
Speaker 4: put enough pressure on him, he may be a guy
Speaker 4: that gives you one a game. So don't let the
Speaker 4: running game beat you and make them rely on their
Speaker 4: pass blocking ability and rely on the quarterback.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've been pretty standard up front in terms of personnel.
Speaker 1: Four starters have played all six games, the fifth starter
Speaker 1: at the right tackle position, Illuminator. He has played two
Speaker 1: starts and he's played all six games. So that's really
Speaker 1: the only change. I was unaware of this. I knew
Speaker 1: the Bears had a lot of different rotations last year
Speaker 1: because of injury and performance, but heard in the news
Speaker 1: conference on Wednesday, thirty games, twenty three changes on the
Speaker 1: offensive line, twenty three different changes. That is not good.
Speaker 4: It's almost impossible to develop that chemistry that we talked
Speaker 4: about since OTAs began, and when you have that many
Speaker 4: changes over the course of a season, over the course
Speaker 4: of a short amount of time that Matty eber BLUs
Speaker 4: has been here, it's almost impossible to develop a relationship
Speaker 4: with your running back and your fullback, your pass protection
Speaker 4: in your quarter back. And I said, if there was
Speaker 4: ever a chance where this offensive line could get twenty
Speaker 4: five games together, I think you'd see an incredible an
Speaker 4: incredibly well performing offensive line. But it's about you know
Speaker 4: who can stay in there and who can when they
Speaker 4: get put in a position, who can hold it down
Speaker 4: and be in there multiple weeks. And that's so I say,
Speaker 4: when you go back and you look at our offensive line,
Speaker 4: when five guys started seven straight seasons.
Speaker 3: It's something that will never happen again.
Speaker 4: I agree, but let let's get let's get one whole
Speaker 4: season together, and I think you'll see a more highly
Speaker 4: performing offense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be a different look this week for the
Speaker 1: sixth time this season. So it's going to happen again.
Speaker 1: Darnell right in the injury report with a shoulder. He
Speaker 1: was limited on Wednesday and as of this taping him
Speaker 1: not heard about Thursday's practice. All right, one last thing
Speaker 1: about the Raiders. Let's let's talk Tovantae Adams because I
Speaker 1: think we brought it up on the TV show Bears
Speaker 1: Game Night Live, and you I had fun with me
Speaker 1: a little bit because Devontae Adams without Aaron Rodgers, you know,
Speaker 1: it's a different kind of animal. But he's still very good,
Speaker 1: he said, team record last season, hunter catches over fifteen
Speaker 1: hundred yards. He's still dangerous, and it'll be a great
Speaker 1: matchup for Jalen Johnson. I think that's something we're going
Speaker 1: to enjoy watching that battle, and Jalen's certainly looking forward
Speaker 1: to it.
Speaker 4: I'm only going to enjoy watching it if Jalen Johnson
Speaker 4: gets his hands on a couple tip balls and maybe
Speaker 4: an interception. I don't want to come in here and
Speaker 4: see a Green Bay Packer performance by Devonte Adams. So
Speaker 4: it is going to be about what type of pressure
Speaker 4: can the defensive line and the linebackers continue to put
Speaker 4: on whomever's playing quarterback to make the timing of their
Speaker 4: offense look dysfunctional. And then if they want do want
Speaker 4: to go to Devonte Adams repeatedly and Jalen Johnson is
Speaker 4: following him around the field, then eventually Jalen's got to
Speaker 4: come up and make the big play. And so I
Speaker 4: guess we'll see what the combination of offensive linemen can
Speaker 4: do for the Raiders pass per Ti. But how this
Speaker 4: continuously improving defensive front of the Bears can continue to
Speaker 4: stop the run, make him getting second and third and long,
Speaker 4: and then really be able to be the spark of
Speaker 4: putting pressure on the quarterback because Brian Hoyer, if he
Speaker 4: is a starting quarterback, he's not very elusive. So you're
Speaker 4: going to be able to put pressure on a spot.
Speaker 4: And then if you do put in a young rookie quarterback,
Speaker 4: you don't know how he's going to react to pressure.
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Speaker 1: this week. Steve McMichael turned sixty six, your head coach
Speaker 1: Mike Dicket turned eighty four. Happy birthday to both. Ming
Speaker 1: is a superhuman tom Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's fighting an incredible battle.
Speaker 4: And you know a guy you know that is just
Speaker 4: as tough as nails as a player and as a person.
Speaker 4: He's shown the same resiliency in the battle he's fighting
Speaker 4: with als. And you know, we could say the same
Speaker 4: thing about a guy like Mike Ditka. You know, you've
Speaker 4: got a guy that has a reputation from the NFL
Speaker 4: when he's your head coach about being one of the
Speaker 4: toughest of the toughest, and you know he's still thought
Speaker 4: of in the same way.
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell gets a new contract extension to twenty twenty seven,
Speaker 1: so that's another four years. He's sixty four years old,
Speaker 1: So that's kind of in the wheelhouse range now of
Speaker 1: when some of the greats that have impacted this game
Speaker 1: in Pete Rosell and Paul Tagliabu decided to move on,
Speaker 1: but that's that's big news from the NFL owners meetings.
Speaker 1: Also the idea that they are trying to get rid
Speaker 1: of or legislate out the the hip drop tackles, the
Speaker 1: one that hurt Geno Smith on the sidelines a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks back.
Speaker 4: You with that, So, Jeff, tell me how many times
Speaker 4: that you've seen it this year.
Speaker 3: You've seen it one time.
Speaker 4: Jeff, and they're talking about making a rule change because
Speaker 4: of it. It's the unfortunate incident of reactionary sport. It's
Speaker 4: not something that these guys are trying to grab a
Speaker 4: player from behind and drop their body weight on the
Speaker 4: back of legs.
Speaker 3: It's impossible to try to do so from the You know, all.
Speaker 4: These guys in suits talking about changing the push play
Speaker 4: by Philadelphia or changing that one tackle that some head
Speaker 4: coaches complaining about on the sideline.
Speaker 3: My gosh.
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's just the unfortunate part of a sport that
Speaker 4: you're getting paid millions and millions of dollars to play.
Speaker 1: Congussions down the lowest in training camp in seven years.
Speaker 1: I think they believe that's a big reason for the
Speaker 1: Guardian Caps. Do you suspect that they will make everybody
Speaker 1: where those in.
Speaker 3: The in the near future in training camp.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean I I would assume they would,
Speaker 4: you know, if if it is creating a safer head
Speaker 4: atmosphere for the practice and the fundamental teaching of the sport. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I do think, you know, hopefully they will. But you
Speaker 4: know it's you know, I'm glad, I'm glad it is
Speaker 4: it is becoming a safer practice atmosphere, all right.
Speaker 1: I want to go back to one thing we talked
Speaker 1: about in the Tuesday Bears, et cetera, about the passage
Speaker 1: of flag football, and in twenty twenty eight Olympics in
Speaker 1: La and I said, Rob Grongngowski wants to play, and
Speaker 1: all these guys want to play. I hope no pro
Speaker 1: athletes will play in flag football. To really grow it,
Speaker 1: I'd like to get I'd like to have people that
Speaker 1: are not NFL caliber or NFL, USFL, XFL Canadian Football
Speaker 1: League caliber, a group of people that love the game,
Speaker 1: are great athletes, but are not that. But I would
Speaker 1: love them to be able to play, be Olympians, to
Speaker 1: represent the United States in flag football. What's your thought
Speaker 1: on my idea? So you're somebody like.
Speaker 4: Me something you're against the Dream Team yes, so the
Speaker 4: Dream Team went and won the Olympics. You're against that. No, well, listen,
Speaker 4: I'm in agreement with you, Jeff. I want to say
Speaker 4: that I'm just becoming antagonistic right now.
Speaker 3: No, I think there's a lot of great athletes.
Speaker 4: For some reason, they don't have the physical gift to
Speaker 4: play NFL football. But I think there's a lot of
Speaker 4: great athletes that are physically gifted to go out there
Speaker 4: and play flag football and an Olympic type of a level. So, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm in agreement with you. I guess it would be
Speaker 4: like going to New Zealand or Australian stuff saying I
Speaker 4: hope I don't take their best Australian rules football or
Speaker 4: rugby players and all of a sudden turn them into
Speaker 4: flag football players.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So I think there's a lot of dynamic athletes in
Speaker 4: the world that I would like to see them a
Speaker 4: part of the flag football rather than you know, giving
Speaker 4: because I listen, I saw Chad Johnson and I saw
Speaker 4: some guys on TV last night talking about how they
Speaker 4: would they would like to play.
Speaker 1: All right, so I wouldn't mind you going out there
Speaker 1: one more rupbian and offensive line and get an Olympic
Speaker 1: gold medal. But you know, I don't want to ex
Speaker 1: players playing.
Speaker 4: Not a chance I could, Like I say, I could
Speaker 4: get in my stance, but I couldn't get out of
Speaker 4: my stands.
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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. We'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 3: All right, that'd be number twenty seven.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're adding up. Can you believe we've done this many?
Speaker 6: Why?
Speaker 3: Well, I was always curious, why do you say that
Speaker 3: number before? Then? Because you know it.
Speaker 1: Well, it's kind of the thing to do in podcasts,
Speaker 1: and hey, we're newbies, so I think it's kind of
Speaker 1: cool that we've already done twenty six episodes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, me too, Me too.
Speaker 4: But you know, I hope that we're we get into
Speaker 4: the hundreds and then the five hundred. You know, I
Speaker 4: don't want it to be a short lived exactly. So
Speaker 4: you got to bring it every show, buddy, and we
Speaker 4: got to get creative.
Speaker 3: Oh hey, I'll be here.
Speaker 4: I can be as angry as you want angry by
Speaker 4: talking about rules committees and all this other baloney.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're an idea man, so you got great ideas.
Speaker 1: So we got to get we got to get. You know,
Speaker 1: once the off season hits, we'll get some new stuff
Speaker 1: in here too. So all right, Tom, that's going to
Speaker 1: be it for us. Thanks again, everybody. Our Next Bears
Speaker 1: et cetera podcast drops Tuesday for our week seven recap.
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