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Speaker 1: Did you know Crystal Gail is the sister of the

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Speaker 1: Queen of Country, Loretta Lynn. Today, the legendary Miss Gail

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Speaker 1: tells me how she escaped the shadow of her sister,

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Speaker 1: remade herself, and discovered her own sound. This very special

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Speaker 1: Arroyo Grande could make my brown eyes blue. Come on,

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Speaker 1: I'm Raymond Arroyo. Welcome to Arroyo Grande. Go subscribe to

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Speaker 1: Arroyo dot com. Crystal Gail is a Billboard chart topping

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Speaker 1: artist who's responsible for a string of hits that have

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Speaker 1: won her Grammy's, numerous Academy of Country Music Awards, American

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Speaker 1: Music Awards, and after being inspired by her sister, Loretta

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Speaker 1: Lynn to pursue music, the story of how she found

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Speaker 1: her sound and broke down barriers as one of the

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Speaker 1: first crossover artists of her generation needed to be heard.

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Speaker 1: Before Taylor Swift and Shania Twain, it was Crystal Gail

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Speaker 1: who crossed over from country into pop and made a

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Speaker 1: around the world. I just loved spending time with a

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Speaker 1: great Crystal Gaylee. Watch you really come from this incredible

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Speaker 1: musical family. And I mean people know your sister Loretta Lynn.

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Speaker 1: The whole family was musical though.

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Speaker 2: Our whole family, you know, my mother and my dad,

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Speaker 2: I mean the musical My mother, she'd play the banjo

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Speaker 2: and then she'd sing pretty poly you know, in Kentucky

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Speaker 2: where I was born, we moved when I was about.

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Speaker 1: Four into Butcher Holler.

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Speaker 2: Butcher Holler, well see yeah, Butcher Holler. I was the

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Speaker 2: only one born in hospital that was in Paintsville. So

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Speaker 2: but we moved when I was about for and to Wabash, Indiana.

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Speaker 2: So that's why my background, my musical sound is different

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Speaker 1: I was going to ask you that, how did that

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Speaker 1: How did living in Indiana shape your sound, because Loretta

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Speaker 1: has a very different I mean that's deep in the holler.

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Speaker 1: And then you've got Crystal Gale, which is say, very

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Speaker 1: smooth crossover metropolitans, sophisticated sound with a country warmth underneath it.

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Speaker 2: It just happened, I think growing up in Indiana. You know,

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Speaker 2: I had the Kentucky accent and then I moved to Indiana,

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Speaker 2: where you know, we sound a little different than everybody there.

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Speaker 2: So you try to adapt. You don't want to stand

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Speaker 2: out too much. Yeah, I know my brothers and sisters did.

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Speaker 2: Because I was too young to have the problems.

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Speaker 1: Right, you're the baby of the class.

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Speaker 2: I have the baby, and uh, you know, you adapt

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Speaker 2: to it. So when we moved to after you know,

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Speaker 1: Did you meet in high school? Yes? I won't talk

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Speaker 2: And then we moved to Nashville. So my dialect was

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Speaker 2: you know, Kentucky, Indiana and here in Tennessee. So I

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Speaker 1: You were a gumbo, definitely was.

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Speaker 2: And you know, when I worked with Alan Reynolds, sometimes

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Speaker 2: I'd bring the dictionary in. Yes i am.

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Speaker 1: Here's the quotation marked the perfect to stop it. I

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Speaker 1: was surprised to learn that you were shy as a kid.

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Speaker 1: I was very shy, and your mother did what to

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Speaker 2: My mother made me sing for anybody that walked in

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Speaker 2: said she was wringing her hands. Well when she got

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Speaker 2: you know, I just went inside. You know, my mother

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Speaker 2: had to. Actually, she did take me to doctor too, because.

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Speaker 1: I was she was worrying. You were two withdrawn.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he told me to quit, and I.

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Speaker 2: We know in Kentucky, the porch was where everybody went

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Speaker 1: Of us well, and it came out of family and

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Speaker 2: I loved, you know, in Indiana where we grew up

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Speaker 2: You know, that's when people get together and really they

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Speaker 1: One of the things I love about country music is

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Speaker 2: Well, I think a lot of love. You know that

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Speaker 2: family life. And I always thought everybody had a wonderful

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Speaker 2: you know. And Loretta would never let me forget I

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well you and you did emulate her at the beginning.

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Speaker 2: So I said, I've got to go home. You know,

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Speaker 2: I went on my own after that, you know, I started.

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Speaker 1: But in your in your early day, I mean you

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Speaker 1: How old are you? Sixteen?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, somewhere in there. And I got to do demos

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Speaker 2: little bit. And I was working actually with the Wilbur Brothers.

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Speaker 2: They had Shipfire music, so they'd let me do their

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Speaker 2: demos and it was so much fun. And then when

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Speaker 2: Owen Bradley said, who who was the head of Decca?

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Speaker 2: When you graduate, we'll release the single and he did Wow,

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Speaker 2: which was I cried the Blue right out of my.

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Speaker 1: Eyes another eye song.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it is.

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Speaker 1: It was a vision of something to come. You were emulating,

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Speaker 1: talked about the love and your family. You would naturally

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Speaker 1: successful sistery. Oh yes, and you did early on.

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Speaker 2: Oh definitely. I knew all her songs, I inside out

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Speaker 2: It was just I loved her music and.

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Speaker 1: She was a wonderful song st I mean, she wrote.

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Speaker 2: She wrote the song, mom, It's different this time, sparkling

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Speaker 2: look of love. And as we're going down the road

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Speaker 1: She was giving you orders off intonation and tong everything.

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Speaker 1: She was a very kind of straightaway lady.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I never had it like this. When we're

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Speaker 2: quit singing it pretty. I said, not singing it pretty well?

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Speaker 1: That's your style. Why wouldn't you sing it pretty? She

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Speaker 1: mean early on the country thing, just really that straight

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Speaker 1: ahead country. And I've heard those recordings. They're beautiful recordings

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Speaker 2: You know, with music, you never know what's going to

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Speaker 2: it just uh it hasked to work together. I was

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Speaker 2: actually on the wrong label. I was on Decca, which

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Speaker 2: turned into mc A. But I was only on there

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Speaker 2: United Artists, he asked me, I said what label you on?

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Speaker 2: I said, I'm not on any and he said what.

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Speaker 2: He well, you come over Monday and talk to me. Wow,

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Speaker 2: And I signed with you a And.

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Speaker 1: But before you left, before you left Decca, they took

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Speaker 1: your name Gail. Oh, okay, Brenda Gail.

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Speaker 2: Took my name because of Brenda Lee because she was

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Speaker 1: Did you ever hesitate and go? I don't want to name.

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Speaker 2: There were times that I thought you know, I'd like to,

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Speaker 2: you know, Loretta said, the name is bright and shiny,

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Speaker 2: and she said, that's what you are.

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Speaker 1: Did she come up with the name.

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Speaker 2: She came up with Crystal. Yes.

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Speaker 1: Why where did it come from?

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Speaker 2: Well, where it really first came from was the Crystal Hamburgers.

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Speaker 2: She said it was because of a chandelier.

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Speaker 1: Because you were shy, and because you were shiny and sparkley.

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Speaker 2: She was hot the Crystal Hambergers.

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Speaker 2: At the beginning, I realized that she it did me

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Speaker 2: I loved it so much. It was the first take

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Speaker 1: Well about that, I mean, this is extraordinary. Well they

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Speaker 1: That's what I was going to ask you, what did

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Speaker 2: I sometimes I think of and I'm going to say

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Speaker 1: It's just raising children and feeding children.

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Speaker 1: Which is its own. I mean, we'll talk about that

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Speaker 2: It says so much and so little, that is what

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Speaker 2: I don't know it was what. I just loved it

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll bet well that was even in parentheses. Later

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they slipped that in. Why do you think it

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Speaker 1: Why not? It holds up? It still holds up. There's

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Speaker 2: You know? Every now and then, I will. I probably

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Speaker 2: It's just something that I don't know. You know, I

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Speaker 2: No? Not, you know I should.

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Speaker 2: I feel it's a gift to have a voice I

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Speaker 2: Oh, definitely in my life and my mom's. And it

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Speaker 2: people in the sense of it was rooted and that's

437
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 2: who came over and settled into those areas of you know,

438
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 2: the Appalachian Virginia, and they moved in and brought the folklore,

439
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 2: the music. My mother would sing those folk songs, those

440
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 2: hill songs, and I loved it. I've still got her

441
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 2: on tape singing really wow.

442
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: You see. And that's what Maybe that's what it is.

443
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 1: Maybe it's your mother's influence that not only reached you,

444
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 1: but reached your sister Loretta. And as we talked about

445
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:31,199
Speaker 1: before we started, you were the only two siblings that

446
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 1: I can find who hit number had number one, hits

447
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 1: huge acclaim in the same area of music in American life.

448
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 1: I don't see two other siblings that have had that

449
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 1: kind of success.

450
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 2: We were lucky. I was lucky.

451
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 1: But there's something in the blood.

452
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 2: It's something in the blood. It's something that my sister

453
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 2: was very, very smart in the business. That's why she said,

454
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 2: don't do anything. And she knew that I would not

455
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 2: be listened to. She would only be compared. She'd say, wasn't.

456
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 1: The rival read between you two? There were a lot

457
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 1: of those articles.

458
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 2: Oh a lot of articles. I mean, we would we

459
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 2: look at each other and you know, sort of laugh

460
00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,640
Speaker 2: and and she says, well, as long as I spell

461
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 2: your name.

462
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 1: Right, don't worry about it. Yeah. I dug through some

463
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,479
Speaker 1: of those old articles and a lot of them will

464
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: go back in the day, like People magazine. So you

465
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: don't know whether to how much credibility this has. You know,

466
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 1: where I didn't go to her house for seven years,

467
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: I haven't stepped foot. Was any of that true? You know?

468
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 2: None? I mean they take one little thing and they

469
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 2: build something with it. You know, we were both busy

470
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 2: on the road and half the time they would be

471
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,640
Speaker 2: doing all these articles, and it was like we hadn't

472
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 2: seen each other for a little bit when you talked,

473
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 2: because we were out about that to cause the problems.

474
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 2: I mean, hey, we were sisters, you know, sisters. We

475
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 2: get together, we laugh, we have fun, We can argue

476
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: if we wanted to. But that was okay. M That's

477
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 2: a nature of a sister and nature of sisters.

478
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,479
Speaker 1: Do you ever stand back and look at Shanaiah Twain

479
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 1: and Taylor Swift and realize that you really were the

480
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: original groundbreaker here that crossed over from country into pop

481
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: and bridge those worlds and open the doors for those women.

482
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 2: I feel like that my music did open a lot

483
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 2: of doors. And also look at Olivia Newton John. She

484
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 2: came from pop into country. She won Female Vocals one year,

485
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 2: and I know there was all this like what happened scandalous, yes,

486
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 2: and totally just laugh. I mean, hey, she had a

487
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,479
Speaker 2: huge song and it was number one in country and

488
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 2: so you know, but her her music came into country.

489
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 2: And Kenny Rogers, I mean he also opened the doors.

490
00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: I mean we would also be a compare Kenny and

491
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 2: I and they call our music slick music. Oh snarticle, Yes,

492
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 2: because we weren't just that country country.

493
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 1: You weren't hollering in the high.

494
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 2: We weren't hollering you could, I.

495
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 1: Know, but you did make there is a sound and

496
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: I've always appreciated it because if you look at all

497
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: the women around you, a lot of women recording at

498
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: the same time, they were belters. They were kind of

499
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: big voice, you know. You you had your smooth lane

500
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: that you just kept writing. You found your sound and

501
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 1: you really never abandoned it.

502
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 2: But sometimes within my albums or certain songs, like there

503
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 2: were some songs that belted, then maybe it didn't sound

504
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: it like half the way, and they may have all

505
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: these songs that did have it arranged to it. But

506
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 2: maybe because I have the softness in the lower part.

507
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: And sweetness in the high end. There's a sweetness in

508
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: the high end of your voice. That's you know that

509
00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: you maintain today. No, no, it's all true. I'm not

510
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: telling anything. They know the go listen to the albums,

511
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: even the most recent when you'll hear it, nothing's changed.

512
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,680
Speaker 1: Tell me about the long hair, which I remember watching

513
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: on the Muppet Show and I remember seeing you on

514
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: television and I still see you and the hair is

515
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: still long, flowing locks. Why keep the hair?

516
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, other than I had a jacket on

517
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 2: and I put my hair in my jacket once and

518
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 2: it was coming out it looked like I had, you know,

519
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: rolled it under. And my mother said, you cut your hair.

520
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 2: I thought, I thought, I mean, I thought she was

521
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: going to hard attack. And that always stuck with me.

522
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: And also when my kids were little and I was

523
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 2: really contemplating cutting then and they said, Mom, you want

524
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: me Crystal Gale, And I thought, you know, well, it's

525
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 2: hard to get rid of something that's been with you

526
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 2: as long as it has been. And I know, I'm

527
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: sure people joke at it, do this and that all

528
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 2: through the through the years. But that's a nature of people.

529
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: It's your trademark and it's how people know you. And

530
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: I agree. I think there's somewhere I read you said

531
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: it's like a child.

532
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: It is has taken a lot of care through the years.

533
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: I could not fix hair, so it was easy to

534
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 2: wash it and let it dry and I was ready

535
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: for stage and leave it. Yeah, because I couldn't afford

536
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: a hairdresser. I mean, Lorett, didn't you tell me cut it,

537
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: you know, rat it up, you know, do all that

538
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:34,479
Speaker 2: you know, And I just couldn't do that. So I

539
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: saved some money, you.

540
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 1: Know, indeed indeed. But but it's iconic. I mean, it's

541
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 1: become iconic. So I'm not one of those people think

542
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: you should cut it. Leave it. It looks exactly like

543
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: Crystal Gale. Your kids are right.

544
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: And I love being able to do Sesame Street and

545
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 2: the Muppet Show, you know, with the little kids around.

546
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: And I was in New York and I actually had

547
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 2: my hair up at that time. This little girl in

548
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: a carriage and she looked up and said, Mommy, mom,

549
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 2: does she know me? She said, she's letting her know

550
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: she had seen me on my history. Yes, when I

551
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 2: sang with Big Bird.

552
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: I love it. I mean, you've had what incredible career.

553
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: You toured with Bob Hope. Yes, And I knew Bob

554
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: and Dolores so well. They were great people. But tell

555
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: me about touring with him.

556
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: I got to do some concerts, but I got to

557
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: go to China. Historic, yes, very historic. It was just incredible,

558
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 2: so many things you could write the book about China,

559
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 2: And it was just an incredible trip. But he was

560
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 2: an incredible person. When we landed in we were in Beijing,

561
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 2: and when we land there, landed there and got to

562
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 2: the hotel, he calls, and it was late at night

563
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 2: to welcome us to the hotel and being on and

564
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 2: I was just so sweet and just Dolores. I got

565
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 2: to go shopping with her and I thought I could shop.

566
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 1: Oh No, Dolores was was great. Yeah, nobody liked Doloris Hope.

567
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: She could shop and and and she was another organizer.

568
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,720
Speaker 1: She could she ran the whole show. What did you

569
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 1: learn from Bob Hope? Did you learn anything as a

570
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: performer from him?

571
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 2: He actually we did some jokes together. So he showed

572
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 2: me how to do timing and uh and that helped too,

573
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 2: because when my sister Peggy se would travel with me,

574
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: she's the jokester, so you know, we we'd do sometimes

575
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 2: she'd had to nudge me a little bit, you're line,

576
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: your turn, your turn, but she's great.

577
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: Wow. How did One from the Heart originate? This is

578
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 1: the Tom Waits Copola project, Francis fort Popolo's film. You

579
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: did the soundtrack to that with Tom Waits of Old People.

580
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: How did that happen?

581
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: Tom had? I mean, he took the train from I

582
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 2: think New York to LA He didn't like to fly.

583
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if he still takes the train, but

584
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: he heard me singing a song called crimea River. They

585
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 2: was on the the the train, the music they were playing,

586
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 2: and they called and said, hey, he would like you

587
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 2: to to meet to to do this album. And that

588
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: was really what inspired him to want that, And so

589
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 2: we go out and and working with Tom was just incredible.

590
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: I mean, I love his writing. You know, I got

591
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 2: early on. And you know when Bill was in law

592
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 2: school here, you know, we get to see him at

593
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 2: exit in and I didn't know. I mean I couldn't

594
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: go up and say, hey, hey, how are you doing town?

595
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 2: But oh yeah, yeah, and he would write in the night,

596
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 2: in the evening, and then he'd bring it into the

597
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 2: studio and I would learn the song and we would

598
00:32:58,640 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: record it.

599
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, he didn't it to you ahead of time.

600
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: I mean you didn't have no No.

601
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 2: This was just he would write and we would. It

602
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 2: was just so musical. I mean he'd played the piano.

603
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 2: You know, if I sang it wrong to him, he'd

604
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: tell me what the melody But maybe I changed somebody

605
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: who knows, and he didn't care. But it would just

606
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 2: it all worked.

607
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a beautiful blending. And you wouldn't think, I friend,

608
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: you know, when you listen to these two voices apart,

609
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 1: you're like Crystal Gail tom Waits. One of these things

610
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: is not like the other. Uh, you know, to steal

611
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: something from Sesame Street. But it chelled beauty. I mean

612
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: you kind of completed each other in some ways.

613
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 2: It we were so different. Yeah, that I think that's

614
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: what it blended.

615
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: You know.

616
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 2: He was gruff in the certain songs that we'd do,

617
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 2: and then I'd come in with more of that smooth sound.

618
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: And smooth off the rough edges. Yeah, there are a

619
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: lot of rough edges anyway. Uh, how, how and why

620
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: Crystal do you steal tour? It's hard out there.

621
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 2: It is very hard. It can be. You try to

622
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 2: you try to make out. You know, when you look

623
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 2: at the paper, Okay, it's this far, they're here and there,

624
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 2: and you think, okay, that'll be okay. But sometimes a

625
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 2: hard can be hard. Yeah, But when you do the

626
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 2: shows and you see the wonderful friends that you've made

627
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: through the years that are coming and I have, I've

628
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 2: made a lot of friends, good friends.

629
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: I love how you refer to your fans as friends,

630
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: because I think they feel that with you.

631
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:35,479
Speaker 2: Well, I've they're wonderful friends and from all walks of life.

632
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: And I've lost a bunch of wonderful friends through the

633
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 2: years that you know, I think of all the time

634
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: when I go back and they'll be at a place there,

635
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 2: or their families coming. You know, it's but they are.

636
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 2: That's what really the heart and soul of country music

637
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 2: is family. It's friendship. It's you know, you hear a

638
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 2: lot of the drinking songs or the or the beers

639
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 2: and all that, but it's it's it's still, it's got

640
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 2: it's warmth, it's fan love, it's it's all that mixed together,

641
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 2: and that's that's the time I grew up in it.

642
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: You know.

643
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 2: I love the the fairs. I love the little carnivals.

644
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 2: I love the the little outdoor venues that you would

645
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 2: go and people bring their picnics.

646
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: Do you do you still think people are craving that

647
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: oh gatherness, that family spirit if you will.

648
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 2: Yes, you know. Now now the shows are so big

649
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 2: and they're in the stadiums, it's I mean they go

650
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: to them, but that's a new generation. You know, they've

651
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 2: missed this other where. It's you know, in between shows,

652
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 2: because you maybe do two shows the same day, you

653
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 2: go and picnic with them. You know, they'd bring enough

654
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 2: fried chicken, or.

655
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: They come see you backstage or bring you things. Yes,

656
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: you know, it was just h you know there's an

657
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: intimacy there. Yes, And you've got great to I mean

658
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: you're at the Waco Hyppodrome, You've got your Arlington, Texas,

659
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: You're all over Texas, you're all over Florida.

660
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: Texas is a world of his own. And I love Texas.

661
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,240
Speaker 1: And I'm sure the people, the audience there is very forward.

662
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: Oh yes, they're not a retiring audience in Texas. Which

663
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: I which I always like, how do you get every

664
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: time I listen to your songs and I usually put

665
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: them on the surround sounds so you can really hear them.

666
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: You get under a lyric, inside a lyric in a

667
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 1: way that well, we were talking about Keeley Smith. Keeley

668
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: Smith got very angry. She said, a lot of these

669
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: people she was talking about he's dead. Now I can

670
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 1: say it, she said, Tony Bennett, I don't know why

671
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: he's still recording. I said, why would you say that?

672
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: People love him? And she said, he's singing along and

673
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: his voice is raw. He shouldn't do that anymore. You

674
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: get inside a lyric every time you sing? How do

675
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: you do that? How do you approach your song?

676
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 2: When I through the years for recording, the melody would

677
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 2: have to appeal to me first, and then I listened

678
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: to the lyrics really close to see if it's something

679
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 2: that I could say and want to put across. And

680
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 2: I think in your delivery of when you're singing a song,

681
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,360
Speaker 2: you know like I don't know when I've been so blue.

682
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 2: I mean, you're into those lyrics. It's not just don't

683
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 2: know when I've been so blue. You don't just sing Yeah,

684
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: you're you're singing the words. You're making the musical.

685
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: How do you prepare? Sinatra used to recite it like

686
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 1: like a like a play. He would write the lyrics

687
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: out and walk around reciting it like a play, which

688
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 1: a comedian of work with we told me recently, Tom dreason.

689
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 2: Some people do that for vocalizing too. You would you

690
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 2: would say the words, just say the words and sing like,

691
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: don't know when been, So you would do it in

692
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 2: that way. So maybe that was his form of vocalizing

693
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 2: as well. But also it's a form of learning the

694
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,720
Speaker 2: song too. Yeah, the lyrics, because a lot of songs

695
00:37:55,719 --> 00:38:00,479
Speaker 2: are more involved in verse after verse. At the verse they.

696
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: Get tricky, Yes, they get tricky. They can you have

697
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: sung in addition to your very romantic songs, some of

698
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: your songs, I mean these are songs about drinking and

699
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: hard living and I mean dumping the guy and the

700
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: truth about Crystal Gaal is you've been married to the

701
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: same guy you met in high school.

702
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 2: Yes, tell me how.

703
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: First of all, how did you and Bill meat and

704
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: how do you maintain a relationship in music all of

705
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: this time?

706
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 2: Well, there's give and take, you know, definitely, you have

707
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 2: to overlook a lot there can be. You know, I have,

708
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 2: as you said, Irish blood but also Indian blood, so

709
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 2: you know he mix those two.

710
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: And I'm married to one of those. I know.

711
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 2: You know it really just works. I mean with children,

712
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 2: when a girl and boy, Chris and Katherine, well, Chris

713
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 2: actually does a lot of producing, songwriting, does a lot

714
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 2: of things here in Nashville and doing great with it.

715
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: And you know you when they were little, Bill stayed

716
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 2: home and didn't tour like with me with it was

717
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 2: going to be long because we wanted them to have a.

718
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: Home life stability, yes, and not just get on a.

719
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 2: Bus and go right, but to work on a relationship.

720
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 2: I mean, hey, I mean there's days we probably want

721
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 2: to kill each other.

722
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 1: It's a nature of relationships, right, But you know you

723
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 1: have to you commit to the long ride. You commit

724
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: to the long ride. But it is interesting though that's

725
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: been your life, Yes, and yet you're singing these songs

726
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: for women who lived a very different life and and

727
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: even popularize that. Do you feel any of that duality

728
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 1: when you're performing those songs?

729
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, with singing, you are acting right,

730
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 2: and it's not this is I think people they get

731
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 2: into songs. They might not be their life, but it

732
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 2: can be the melody. It could be a few words,

733
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: It could be maybe a phrase that.

734
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: You said somebody you know who went through that.

735
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 2: Yes, I got so many fan letters through the years

736
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 2: telling me that my music helped them through a dark

737
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 2: part of their life, whether it was a breakup, maybe

738
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 2: a home life that wasn't as good as it could

739
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 2: have been. And they'd say they would lock themselves self

740
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 2: away into my music and it helped them get through.

741
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 2: And that to me was more important than getting an

742
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 2: award and.

743
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: Christ, what do you think they're reacting to when they

744
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: write the When they write that and have that reaction.

745
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 2: I think that they want me to know that I

746
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 2: have been a part of their life and they're part

747
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 2: of my life because I've kept a lot of those letters.

748
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 1: How bad? Tell me what it was working like working

749
00:40:59,080 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: with Jane Martin.

750
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 2: Oh, he was so great Dean Martin. I loved it.

751
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 2: I got to do his TV shows and and then.

752
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: There's a he loved you too. I watched I just

753
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: watched those clubs. It was mutual.

754
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 2: We would eat at a restaurant that he loved Miglia.

755
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 2: I think it was called in l A. I have

756
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 2: this not there anymore, but I mean it was so incredible.

757
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 2: But every time we'd go there, he'd be there. So

758
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: we would visit with him a little bit there.

759
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: One time I met him. That's where it was, in

760
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: that restaurant. Yeah, he would sit in.

761
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 2: The booth there, his place, that was the booth.

762
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, somebody told me that, and I said, when you go,

763
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: make sure you go to lat Familia. He'll be at

764
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 1: the booth at seven o'clock. And darn it, seven o'clock

765
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: he walked in and there he was right up in

766
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: this that was that was place. So you were in

767
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: touch with him for years. I mean, you stayed in touch,

768
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: you know.

769
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: As well as you can, you know. And of course,

770
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 2: uh and I've been able to know his family too,

771
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: and this it's just when I look at all the

772
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 2: wonderful people, as you said, Dean Martin, I mean, that

773
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 2: was just a highlight to be able to work with

774
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 2: him when stars were stars, stars were stars, and you know,

775
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 2: I look at I got to meet Elizabeth Taylor. She

776
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,359
Speaker 2: was a star, I mean, and I mean, how did

777
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: you meet her? We were doing the inauguration gala and

778
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 2: it was at the end of the show and I

779
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: immediately went right to her, and she could have could

780
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 2: not have been more gracious. You know, some would have

781
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: just pushed you off, which I've had those, but I

782
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 2: mean she was Elizabeth Taylor, what I knew. And the

783
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 2: other artist was Katherine Heppern really and I got to

784
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 2: meet her. It was a night of one hundred stars.

785
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, And.

786
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 2: I had gone to the bathroom, came back and the

787
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:00,080
Speaker 2: girl that was taking me around, she said, where have

788
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 2: you been? And she said, Katherine Hepburn. Hepburn wants to

789
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 2: meet the girl with the long hair. So I was

790
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 2: so happy I had long hair.

791
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: You see that long hair, and that long hair works

792
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: every time. Tell me about you. You mentioned earlier your

793
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,720
Speaker 1: gospel albums, and this is in the nineties. You recorded

794
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: a pair of them, right, Yes, it was two. He's

795
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: Beautiful and the other one is.

796
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: Some Someday someday.

797
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: Why those songs and why gospel?

798
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: What's a part of my life? And actually at that

799
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 2: time I wanted people to know that part of my

800
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 2: life and know that who I am being a Christian

801
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 2: when I grew up. I mean, being a Christian doesn't

802
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 2: mean you have to go to church every Sunday or

803
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 2: do all the it's the way you live your life.

804
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 2: But putting those songs out I wanted to. I wanted

805
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: them to hear and I love them.

806
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: I mean they're beautiful song.

807
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: One album was filled with new songs, and then the

808
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:07,320
Speaker 2: other one is the songs I sing in church, still

809
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 2: singing church and love them and you know, it's uh,

810
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 2: it's great to have people around you that love the music,

811
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 2: the gospel music and and and that sing themselves.

812
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 1: Well. This used to be a feature in Nashville. Yes,

813
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: every major artist because they did come from the same

814
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: family faith ethos that you talked about. There was Elvis

815
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 1: recorded about some of the best recordings he ever did.

816
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 1: Are those beautiful gospel albums your sister. I mean, I

817
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: could go doubriba you. There was always that faithful expression

818
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 1: through the music. Are you worried that we're losing that?

819
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 2: We definitely have lost quite a bit out in the world,

820
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 2: and the morality is different. The things that I see

821
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 2: online that I would have never seen TV shows or

822
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 2: whatever's out there. I mean, I'm like, Okay, put the

823
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 2: gospel back on, and I just think it would be

824
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 2: nice if we had a little bit more thought a

825
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 2: little bit more of ourselves in what we do things,

826
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: and but I guess we don't.

827
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 1: What about musically, I mean, when you look back at

828
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: when you came to Nashville and now you think what.

829
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 2: Uh, well, definitely it's it's a little different.

830
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: You're being so diplomatic, Crystal.

831
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 2: You know, I look at it that you know, I

832
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 2: wouldn't never been able to. I would personally would not

833
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 2: have worn some of the things that people wear on

834
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 2: stage now just because of the know who I am.

835
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: But I mean some things are very beautiful, but you know,

836
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 2: I think you know, they need to stay where they

837
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 2: should be. Yeah, the type of shows they are, but.

838
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: Keeping your clothing on is a nice prerequisite.

839
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad I didn't have to have number ones

840
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: for that way.

841
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: That's right. You earned them. You earned them with your

842
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: with your vocal cords, not with other things. But has

843
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 1: the music it's gotten a lot more corporate, it seems

844
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: to me, you know, with to.

845
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 2: Me, I do not know how a song makes it anymore.

846
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 2: Is it streaming, is it radio? I don't know, because

847
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 2: it's just so people have hits and I've never heard

848
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 2: I've never heard the song, and they're selling out stadiums,

849
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm missing something somewhere. I guess if

850
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 2: I was online all the time, I would know them,

851
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 2: but it's hard to be online, and for me it is.

852
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're in conquering all the other stuff.

853
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 2: Well, you know, you have to take a break. I mean,

854
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 2: you can get online and before you realize it, it's

855
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 2: been two hours, and I'm like, wait a minute, I

856
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 2: could have been.

857
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: Doing something else exactly.

858
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 2: And it's not that I don't want to be on

859
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 2: and see and read and I do and I answer

860
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 2: stuff for people, but I feel like you have to

861
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 2: take a break from that.

862
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love an album you did with your son,

863
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: who I met earlier, and it's Crystal Gail sings the

864
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: Heart and Soul of Hogy Carmichael, whom you knew. Tell

865
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: me about Hogy Carmichael.

866
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 2: Hogy Carmichael. I was so excited I got to meet

867
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 2: him and saying with him, Oh, yes, I was so nervous.

868
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: How old were you when you met him?

869
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, was it your special? No, it was a

870
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 2: country music special.

871
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 1: Ah.

872
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: And they sent me to California where he lived, and

873
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: we did the songs together with a medley of his

874
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: songs that he'd written. And he wasn't in really good

875
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 2: health at that time, and but so it was in pain.

876
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 2: But when that camera came on, you didn't. You could not.

877
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,959
Speaker 2: He was a showman. I mean he was so great. Wow,

878
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 2: And I knew right then I wanted to do an

879
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:19,720
Speaker 2: album of his music. He was from Indiana, Bloomington, and

880
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 2: so there was that connection. But you know those songs

881
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 2: are you know you sing a song of his, the.

882
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: Skylark, Your Skylark is so beautiful?

883
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 2: Have you any thing to say to me? I mean,

884
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: they're just the lyrics and the music. Now, Stardust I

885
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 2: did that, and that song he had written as just piano.

886
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 2: I mean, it was a music. The lyrics were added

887
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: later by Mitchell Parish. Yes, And I could tell by

888
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,959
Speaker 2: singing that song it was not written at the same time.

889
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: That song.

890
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: It's a hard song to sing. Yeah, yeah, it just

891
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: falls across the meadow of my mind. What a beautiful

892
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: song that is. But that album tell me about why

893
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: you wanted to preserve those songs, because in many ways

894
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: that's what you're doing, and they are they're exquisitely rendered.

895
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: I'm really upset that you haven't recorded more of that

896
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: Great American Songbook because it does suit you.

897
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 2: It does and that voice that is a calling that

898
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 2: style of music. I just wanted to sing though. Man,

899
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 2: there was so many to choose from the nearness. I mean,

900
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,239
Speaker 2: it's not the pale moon that excites me, you know,

901
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 2: the delights me. Oh No, it's just the nearness of you.

902
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,240
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. Now I get to sing with Crystal

903
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: Gail take Me Home Lord, Okay.

904
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 2: But I love that. That's where you can act in

905
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 2: the in the song. It's acting. You can actually get

906
00:49:58,239 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 2: into the.

907
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,240
Speaker 1: Lyrics, into that moment. Yes, tell me about the album

908
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: that you did of Country Classics, which is you Don't

909
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: Know Me And I love this album because Loretta and

910
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: your sister Peggy's Who and you sing together on this. Yes.

911
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: What does that represent to you?

912
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:19,720
Speaker 2: Oh? It was just an incredible time. And my sister,

913
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 2: you know, through the years, we've been wanting to do

914
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 2: an album. Man, we just we talk about it. We

915
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 2: listened to songs. She said, we want to do a

916
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,240
Speaker 2: pop album. I said, now, let's do what we really

917
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,239
Speaker 2: know and then she said, I want to do this

918
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 2: and it was just but we just had fun. So

919
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 2: we never really well, you know, we just wanted to

920
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 2: be sisters. So but when I was doing this, I said, Loretta,

921
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 2: can will you do this song that we've sung on

922
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 2: shows many times? So I had the track put down

923
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 2: and she came in and if I'd had ten tracks,

924
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 2: she would have sung every one of them, if I'd

925
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 2: had other songs. It was like, what's that? She was

926
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,719
Speaker 2: having so much fun and I wish I had had

927
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,280
Speaker 2: that thought that maybe she'd do a little bit more.

928
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,919
Speaker 2: But you know, it was just great to be with

929
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: her in the studio. And she's an incredible singer. Oh,

930
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 2: she was the best singers ever.

931
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 1: Well, you all there must be something in that gene pool,

932
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: because I'll just say this when you listen to when

933
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: she passed away, we were doing commemorations of her, and

934
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: I pulled the early stuff and then I pulled her

935
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: last album. You remember she recalled her Yeah, yeah, all

936
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: the divorce and coal Miner's daughter. There's very little differentiation

937
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: in the voice. Yes, I mean the power that voice

938
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: is remarkable, I know, and I feel the same way

939
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 1: when I listened to you do you think it's just jeans?

940
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 2: It's something I'll say. You know, you do what you

941
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 2: love to do. And uh, I've always said though, when

942
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 2: when it's time for me to quit singing, I'll know it.

943
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 2: You know, I don't want to be out there singing.

944
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 2: And when I'm fighting all over the place, it's everything.

945
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 2: You know, I'll hear it when you have Okay, that's it.

946
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 1: Well you're not there yet. Good stay what you're doing.

947
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: Who do you listen to them?

948
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 2: Oh? There's so many that I love.

949
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: You know, you listen to listen to mostly people of people,

950
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: both both so Laney Wilson.

951
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,760
Speaker 2: Love her voice, you know, just there's something that appeals

952
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 2: to me. But I mean there's so many that through

953
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 2: the years that have a bunch of new singers. Yeah,

954
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 2: you know Annie Bosco, Oh gosh, you know the names?

955
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,919
Speaker 1: Or is it only country or do you listen to folks?

956
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,439
Speaker 1: Do you listen to rock? Do you listen to.

957
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 2: You listen to it all, you know, as you know,

958
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 2: the radio is usually on certain stations and you listen

959
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 2: and there's some great singers out there. And I know,

960
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 2: you know, like you're saying, Taylor Swift's greats. I love

961
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 2: her music, Scenia, I love what she's done through the years.

962
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: They owe a lot of thanks to Crystal Gaiale. That's

963
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: all I'll say. Send you thank you cards. Girls. Okay,

964
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: there is a questionnaire I ask everybody who sits off

965
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: with me. This is the Royal Grande questionnaire. I don't

966
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: want you to think about these. I just want whatever

967
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 1: pops in the top of your head. Okay, it's not

968
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: a quiz. If I have one, you definitely have one.

969
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: Who is the person you most admire?

970
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 2: Well, well, that is a hard one, though, it really is.

971
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 2: You want the first one. You know. What came to

972
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 2: my mind was my mother and not really you know,

973
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 2: and you're with us. I think, you know, when my

974
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 2: dad died, she's very strong. She stayed strong for the

975
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 2: whole family and the values.

976
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: You know.

977
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 2: I think of what would my mother do? That's where

978
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 2: I go. It's not what someone else would do, but

979
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 2: what would she do in the situation of just.

980
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: And it sounds like from what you told me, she

981
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: really is the font of your music and your sister's music,

982
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: your family, your brother's music. Who still play with you? Right?

983
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: I mean there's still from time to time what they

984
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: did they dan?

985
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 2: You know, we've lost all my brothers and it's just

986
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 2: the girls left now and uh, except you know, we

987
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 2: lost Loretta, Peggy and Betty and myself with the last

988
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: of the sisters, and you're holding the flag we're hanging

989
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 2: in there.

990
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 1: Who's the person you most despise?

991
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 2: Well, well, gosh, I don't like to really despise anybody.

992
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: I'll take that answer. That's a good that's what I

993
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 1: expected from Crystal Gale.

994
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 2: Well, it's just, you know, why, why put your thoughts

995
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:58,439
Speaker 2: in a person that you know you might And if.

996
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: Someone told me the other day, there's too much the world.

997
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: I don't hate anybody.

998
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 2: There's too much.

999
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:07,240
Speaker 1: And that's probably the right answer. But despite my provocative question,

1000
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: what's your best feature?

1001
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 2: Oh my best feature? Oh my? Oh, let's see, Well,

1002
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 2: is it the hair that's one or my eyes?

1003
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:21,240
Speaker 1: Eyes?

1004
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 2: I give people talking bit eyes. But my my grandson,

1005
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 2: who is Bjorn, he's five, and he looked at me

1006
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 2: the other day says, yeah, yeah, why do you have

1007
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 2: angry eyebrows? And if you go on some of these

1008
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,879
Speaker 2: memes on these shows that you have all these eyebrows, Well,

1009
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,919
Speaker 2: the shape of my eyebrow is in there, in there

1010
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 2: because the angry eyebrow, but it's not.

1011
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: I thought it was so eyebrows are off the list,

1012
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: the best feature of the list now, so we're up

1013
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,959
Speaker 1: the eyes and hair. See, I would have thought your.

1014
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 2: Voice, Oh well I've never really that's not a bad tea.

1015
00:55:58,200 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 2: You always want the voice you don't have.

1016
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: What voice would you want if you couldn't have yours?

1017
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,760
Speaker 2: Well, you know you always wanted the soprano. I've always

1018
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 2: been more the low the base, ye alto. I always

1019
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:11,760
Speaker 2: wanted more of a soprano high voice.

1020
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 1: Isn't that weird? Every time I hear you, all I

1021
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: hear is your beautiful highs. That beauty because the tone

1022
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: is a light tone. It's not a heavy tone. You

1023
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: don't bring the base up with you when you get

1024
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: to those high notes, they're clear, beautiful. Note. See you

1025
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: got the soprano and you didn't know what you had

1026
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 1: it to us, to the people listening, you're already a soprano.

1027
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: What's your favorite book?

1028
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 2: I don't think there's one favorite other than if you

1029
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 2: want to go to Yeah, but as far as just

1030
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 2: picking up book, and I could say my sister's you

1031
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 2: know in her biography?

1032
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 1: Oh that that is a good bio. See that is

1033
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: a good biour. Wasn'tre a movie made off of that.

1034
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was.

1035
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it did kind of concern your family. That's a

1036
00:56:56,520 --> 00:57:00,040
Speaker 1: good answer at Crystal, What do you know that no

1037
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 1: one else knows?

1038
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 2: Well? Life is short, life is turn around what you

1039
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 2: thought you were going to do, Take that trip, do

1040
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 2: those things you want to do, because you never know.

1041
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 2: But I think a lot of people realize that they

1042
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 2: just don't. You know, you gotta go do it. Yeah,

1043
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 2: and it's just you know, life is, it's wonderful and

1044
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 2: there's ups and downs. I always say, because you know,

1045
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 2: you'll have dreams of growing up. You dream this is

1046
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 2: what I want to do. But those dreams can change

1047
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 2: and you mold your life and it might not be

1048
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 2: you know, people want to be a singer. But I

1049
00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 2: always look at if you love people and life, whatever

1050
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 2: you do in life, you're going to do well with it.

1051
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 2: Whether it's waiting tables, whether it's being a nurse. My

1052
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 2: mother was a nurse, she loved it. I my brother's

1053
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,280
Speaker 2: worked in factories. I mean they did a great job.

1054
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 2: My my brother Junior was worked in Chrysler. He didn't

1055
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 2: go to college. But who did they call to fix

1056
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 2: some machines? My brother who could take them apart, put

1057
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 2: them back together if he wanted so. You know, it

1058
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 2: was just he loved it and he loved playing music,

1059
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 2: and he'd say, you know that's you know, it was

1060
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 2: he loved life.

1061
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: What do you fear?

1062
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 2: I fear that I always want to take care of

1063
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 2: things before something happens. I'm one of those that I

1064
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 2: like to think of what might happen if I do this?

1065
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 2: What road do I go down? It's just, you know,

1066
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 2: I want to take the safest route, like I want

1067
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 2: to to check out places if we travel, where we go.

1068
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,439
Speaker 2: I fear just you know, I just want to keep

1069
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 2: my family safe. I want to Maybe it's more for

1070
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 2: them than me, you know, I fear for other people.

1071
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 2: You know.

1072
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 1: Do you have a regret?

1073
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 2: I'm sure I do, but I don't like to go

1074
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 2: there either, because it's like you can regret doing certain things,

1075
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 2: but you did the things you did, and it took

1076
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 2: you to this point. It took me to this point.

1077
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 2: And you know, whether you know I didn't record a song,

1078
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 2: or I didn't record a song, or you know, you're

1079
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 2: you're going down your own road and you make those

1080
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 2: decisions at that moment, and to go back, I don't

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Speaker 2: know what I do. Maybe make the same decision at

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00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 2: the same time, you would make the same decision, and

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00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 2: it might lead to the same road in the end.

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Speaker 2: But so I try not to say, you know.

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Speaker 1: You don't look back? And could you know you don't

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00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: look back?

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Speaker 2: My husband prices I do.

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Speaker 1: Every husband says you do. But that's a different that's

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00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:00,800
Speaker 1: a different We all think that because you know why,

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01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: you all have these retentive memories and we're like a

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Speaker 1: bag of stones. We remember nothing. So I've been married

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Speaker 1: for thirty years. I know these things. The one thing

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Speaker 1: I know, I.

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01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:13,439
Speaker 2: Do bring up things you know about tenant night? Did

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Speaker 2: we did not want to hear it?

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Speaker 1: Why did you say that? What about this? I know

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Speaker 1: this routine? Tell me what is the best piece of

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Speaker 1: advice Crystal Gale ever received.

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Speaker 2: I would say the advice, but I've gotten quite a few.

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01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 2: I'll bet the best would be when my sister told

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01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 2: me to quit singing her songs, do a different style

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01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 2: and go my own way and just being myself, you know,

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01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 2: being true to myself. And I've always had to turn

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01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 2: down more money because if I didn't like what they

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01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 2: wanted me to, you know, advertise, you know, I did

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01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 2: not want to be that person to tell someone else

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01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 2: to do it. And I'm not going to do that

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01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:07,280
Speaker 2: or use that shampoo or use that you know, It's

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01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 2: just it was not me I wanted to. I.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'll bet you got more shampoo offers than anybody

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Speaker 1: in the business.

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Speaker 2: I did get a lot of it.

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01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 1: I'll bet I'll bet Katherine Hepburn would have bought it.

1114
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: You should have. You should have done a few extra

1115
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 1: those What happens when this is.

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01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 2: Over, Crystal, when I put my feet up and sit back.

1117
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 2: If as far as touring and being a part of everything,

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01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 2: when that is over, I'll look back on it and

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Speaker 2: enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: But you've given us a lot to enjoy over many years.

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01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:44,520
Speaker 1: And it goes on, and I hope people will go

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01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: see you alive because it's really special.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: But guess what, my brown eyes have not turned blue,

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Speaker 1: and I'm really upset about it. Thank you, Thank you

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01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: for the interview. Thank you, beautiful music. You know what

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Speaker 1: I love about Crystal Gail. She found her own path

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01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: despite the incredible trail blazed by her sister, and she

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01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 1: ended up blazing her own trail for other women. She

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01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: also had that internal sense not only her music, but

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01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: the values that defined her career. And the wonderful thing

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01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 1: is Crystal Gail is still touring. She's all over Texas

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01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: in Waco and Arlington, then she's onto Kentucky, Alabama, Florida.

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Speaker 1: Check out her website at Crystalgale dot com for all

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01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,720
Speaker 1: the dates and the latest. You will be so happy

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01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: you went to her show, and I hope you'll come

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Speaker 1: back to Royo Grande soon. While of a dry, constricted,

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01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 1: narrow life, when if you fill it with good things,

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Speaker 1: it can flow into a broad, driving Arroyo Grande, I'm

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Speaker 1: Raymond Arroyo. Make sure you subscribe like this episode and

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01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 1: look my brown hat turned blue. Thanks for diving in.

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