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Speaker 1: From Mediator's World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This is

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Speaker 1: Kel's we Can review with Ryan kel Kell in now

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Speaker 1: Here's Cal, a fifty seven year old Wisconsin barge pilot

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Speaker 1: caught a fifty seven inch muskie. For those of you

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Speaker 1: not in the know, a muskelunge or muskie is a big, mean,

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Speaker 1: toothy freshwater predator fish, the largest in the pike family.

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Speaker 1: They do, on occasion grow beyond the fifty seven inch mark.

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Speaker 1: The all time tackle record is a sixty and one

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Speaker 1: quarter inch fish. That one was recorded all the way

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Speaker 1: back in nineteen. That muskie reportedly weighed sixty seven pounds

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Speaker 1: and was thirty four inches around. That's a big fish, now,

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Speaker 1: I know what you're thinking. Must have been one hell

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Speaker 1: of an angler to hold a record for more than

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Speaker 1: seventy years. If you were to look that angler up,

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Speaker 1: you'd find his name is Cal. By the way, just

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Speaker 1: making sure you have all the facts. Is all outside

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Speaker 1: of that smart, kg and probably good looking old angler.

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Speaker 1: The state of Wisconsin accidentally shocked a larger fish at

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Speaker 1: sixty one and one and a half inches in two

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Speaker 1: thousand nineteen. That was electric by catch, not a rod

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Speaker 1: and reel record. To be clear, and just so you

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Speaker 1: know that sixty one and a half incher is still

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Speaker 1: swimming around. So if that doesn't motivate you, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what will. Muskies have rows of razor sharp teeth

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Speaker 1: akin to concertina wire, but they don't chew or tear

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Speaker 1: through their prey. They use them to seize quarry before

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Speaker 1: swallowing a hole head first. You'd be tempted to think

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Speaker 1: that muski has given their size and lee teeth, would

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Speaker 1: feed constantly, but they actually have relatively slow metabolisms, especially

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Speaker 1: in cold water, which is partly why they're so hard

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Speaker 1: to catch. They're called the fish of ten thousand casts.

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Speaker 1: A big, full grown adult muskie may need to eat

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Speaker 1: only a few times per week, or, as common angler

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Speaker 1: wisdom holds, about once every three days. They do a

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Speaker 1: lot of sitting, waiting and watching for prey. All this

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Speaker 1: to say, yes, the muskie is cool, it's hard to catch,

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Speaker 1: and yes, it can get bigger than fifty seven inches,

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Speaker 1: which makes them special. But your general muskie may not

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Speaker 1: be as special as this fifty seven inch caught by

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Speaker 1: Lee Fransom. Lee is a die hard angler who spends

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Speaker 1: a crazy amount of time on Lake Michigan's Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: According to Lee, it's both his office and his playground.

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Speaker 1: Green Bay is, of course the namesake of the football team,

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Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers, but that's not all. It's one

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Speaker 1: of the largest bays in the country, at about a

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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty miles long, goes between ten and twenty

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Speaker 1: miles wide. The Indian tribes native to the area, including

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Speaker 1: the Winnebago and the man Nominee. The tribes then called

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Speaker 1: the bay is stinking waters, which seventeenth century French settlers

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Speaker 1: would translate to La bay de plants and the serious

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Speaker 1: stink owed to a few different factors. Over abundance of algae,

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Speaker 1: stagnant water, and a lot of marcias, and marcias are

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Speaker 1: decomposing stuff all the time. That nice smelling, really rich

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Speaker 1: black muck. Anyway, Unfortunately, and not coincidentally, the bay got

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Speaker 1: even stinkier as more Europeans filled in the country. Stinky

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Speaker 1: Europeans is just too easy of a joke, so we'll

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Speaker 1: skip past that moreague. In seven, the e p A

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Speaker 1: identified Lower Green Bay as an area of concern earned

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Speaker 1: because of the contaminated sediment and the overall poor water

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Speaker 1: quality from agricultural runoff and industry pollution, fish killing dead

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Speaker 1: zones now form in the bay. One of the largest

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Speaker 1: in two thousand twelve covered forty square miles. That's roughly

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Speaker 1: a third of the entire bay. I'm bringing this up

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Speaker 1: to give you even more context as to how special

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Speaker 1: this muskie is. So stick with me. Because all the pollution,

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Speaker 1: and because the habitat loss and commercial fishing, the bay's

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Speaker 1: legendary muskie population became all but extinct by the late

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighties. Nine, the state began stocking spotted muskies back

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Speaker 1: into Green Bay to re establish a self sustaining population.

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Speaker 1: It is this population that Lee's giant muskie came from.

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Speaker 1: That's called conservation success after conservation failure, which unfortunately is

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Speaker 1: a well established pattern. Now to jump back a bit

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Speaker 1: to the subject of I guess not necessarily failure, but

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Speaker 1: certainly rotten luck. Lee, our angler, has had a terrible

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Speaker 1: run of luck recently. In January of nineteen he was

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Speaker 1: if it was fun, everyone would do it. If that

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Speaker 1: the day after france And had all his teeth yanked,

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Speaker 1: his mother suffered a stroke that nearly killed her. And

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Speaker 1: we're not done yet. After treatment, franz And suffered major

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Speaker 1: withdrawals from the morphine and fentinyl that he was prescribed

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Speaker 1: While undergoing treatment, He's toothless and in constant pain. He's weak.

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Speaker 1: His weight dropped from one pounds plus. As he told

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Speaker 1: the Green Babe Press Gazette, the anxiety and panic attacks

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Speaker 1: I chuckle, not because it's funny, but because I have to,

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Speaker 1: and because you know, if you fancy yourself an angler,

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Speaker 1: everyone Lee gets the last laugh. As his luck starts

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Speaker 1: to turn around. He's now cancer free. He recently returned

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Speaker 1: to work, he's got a full, brand new set of dentures,

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Speaker 1: and most importantly, he's able to fish again. Friends him,

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Speaker 1: in true Upper Midwest fashion, is you know your standard

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Speaker 1: big walleye and perch angler. But this past Memorial Day

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Speaker 1: he decided to try his luck at Muskie's again, the

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Speaker 1: fish of ten thousand casts. He got a bright and

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Speaker 1: early start and out at about two o'clock in the afternoon.

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Speaker 1: He cast about fifteen times, which again is basically nothing

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Speaker 1: if you're talking muskie, and he got a huge hit

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Speaker 1: in short order. Friends And reeled in the pound fifty

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Speaker 1: seven inch muskie of his dreams, his personal best. Got

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Speaker 1: one more quick aside. If you'll allow me, all of

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Speaker 1: this stuff is fact, but I'll slide in one thing

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Speaker 1: here that that I think was implied, So take it

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Speaker 1: with a grain of salt. The Press Gazette article about

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Speaker 1: the catch suggests that friends and caught the fish and

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Speaker 1: reeled it in with the same fishing rod that he

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Speaker 1: was sleeping with while he was sick. I'm not kidding.

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Speaker 1: He slept with his favorite musky rod during his cancer battle,

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Speaker 1: which kind of makes sense. It's pert near metaphorical if

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Speaker 1: you think about it. The rod is tough enough to

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Speaker 1: tough enough to beat cancer. I got to hold onto

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Speaker 1: that rod as a big, strong fish can make or

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Speaker 1: gotta hold on to your health. Again. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: so we're gonna stick with it to get back to

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Speaker 1: and release. This case, the fish didn't read the playbook

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Speaker 1: and something went wrong and the line got caught through

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Speaker 1: There's probably a metaphor in that somewhere too, Franzen told

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Speaker 1: the paper. I now hold his shop record for the

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Speaker 1: biggest broad in, which for me is quite an honor.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the top, Mr Frances. This week we've

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Speaker 1: got more fish, migratory birds, troubled waters, and so much more.

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Speaker 1: or garden. That's called versatility, folks. Anyway, just back from

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Speaker 1: a short vacation Florida's Forgotten Coast, got focused on my

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Speaker 1: Tarpan fishing tarpin as I have and will continue to cover,

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Speaker 1: are an incredibly cool fish that has been around a

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Speaker 1: We caught a few tarpen, jumped a few tarpan, which

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