1 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,639 Speaker 1: Welcome into Northside Territory Foul Territory Networks Cubs Podcast. I'm 2 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: Sadeve Charmer with my partner Patrick Mooney. We are your 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic Patrick. Final episode 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 1: of the week. Let's kick it off right away with 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: our Draft Kings player spotlight. All right, Patrick, we're doing 6 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,319 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about Kyle Tucker this week. I mean, 7 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: obviously one of the best players in baseball, one of 8 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: the best players, I mean the best, arguably the best 9 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: player on the Cubs. Let's start with a little poking 10 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: the bear. I guess yes, yes. Our colleague Ken Rosenthal 11 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: had some notes come out on Thursday, and one of 12 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: those notes Kyle Tucker, Tampa Bay native. New ownership should 13 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: be approved at some point in the near future for 14 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Rays. Will that new owner want to 15 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: make a big splash and bring a hometown guy back 16 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: and spend some money? Are the Rays and actual player 17 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: for Kyle Tucker. 18 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: I'm envisioning the comments section if we wrote that news story, 19 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 2: if it actually happened, or the amazing episode we could 20 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: put together of the angst of like the Rays stealing 21 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: the number one free agent away from the Cubs. I 22 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 2: think more was interesting to me, and I think just 23 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: by Ken raising that possibility was like there's always kind 24 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: of like a team out there, like the mystery team, 25 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: and sometimes like the mystery team is real, and like 26 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 2: there's a team that you're not always thinking of that 27 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: could decide at any point to sort of put their 28 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: foot on the gas. And I'd be surprised if it's 29 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 2: the Rays with Kyle Tucker. But I think it gets 30 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 2: to something that even within the Cubs, they don't really 31 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 2: have a great sense for what exactly Kyle Tucker wants. 32 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 2: And I think obviously it will come down to money. 33 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: And I do think there's something about Tucker that he's 34 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 2: shown this year is that he's pretty flexible. Like I 35 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: think he just loves playing baseball. He loves being in 36 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: a clubhouse, like that is his most natural element. You know, 37 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: his brother played in the show. He grew up in Florida. 38 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 2: He went to the same high school that produced you know, 39 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 2: Pete Alonzo and Wade Bogs. Like this is kind of 40 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 2: that baseball gym rat and talking to him at Yankee 41 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: Stadium last weekend, you know he's not a KG rat. 42 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: And then he's going to take a hundred swings every 43 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: day or go there for early work and then do 44 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 2: extra sessions in the cage later. Like he's very much 45 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 2: a feel vibes type guy. If it's twenty whatever, fifteen swings, 46 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: ten flips and he feels good, then he's done. But 47 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 2: I think you've seen actually not really seen it, because 48 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,119 Speaker 2: he's rarely in the clubhouse when the media is available, 49 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: Like he kind of has his own thing. But you 50 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: hear about how connected he is to this group, that 51 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 2: he is very much woven into this team's fabric. And 52 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 2: you know Dansby Swanson who gave him a lot of 53 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: credit for that. He says he's like, honestly, I don't 54 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: know what affects this guy in general, like contact to 55 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: your pressure. He is just the same all the time. 56 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 2: But the word Dancy Sponsors used was just sort of 57 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: the transparency in which Kyle Tucker is operated of, Like, look, 58 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: everyone knows that he can become a free agent after 59 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: this year. No one knows where he's going to be 60 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: playing next year. But I think the Cubs have certainly 61 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: put their best foot forward. I think Kyle Tucker has 62 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 2: shown how adaptable he is and proven his value. Not 63 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 2: just the numbers that if he when he's playing in Houston, 64 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 2: you can look up his Baseball Reference numbers, whatever, his 65 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: stat cast data. But I think watching him every day 66 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: and seeing how he interreacts and how sorry, how he 67 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: interacts with others, how the crowd reacts to him, how 68 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: Cubs players have become better by hitting around him. I 69 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 2: think all of those things, Uh, all those boxes have 70 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 2: been checked, and then it'll just come down to money. 71 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, I liked I think I was there for this, 72 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: or maybe I just saw it. It wasn't when we 73 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,239 Speaker 1: when you were on the road. I'm pretty sure Counsel 74 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: was talking at Wrigley when he gave the quote about 75 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: how Kyle Tucker kind of he sometimes makes the game 76 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: look easy. Yeah, and it's just like and it and 77 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: it can be frustrating to other people. And I know 78 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: I understand that that feeling. There's this, uh you watch 79 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: these natural athletes and like someone like picks up a 80 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: that you know, it's like Mookie bats goes in like 81 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: bolts of three hundred. It's like, what you shouldn't be 82 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: able to be that good at so many different things. Uh, 83 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker just goes up there he has this swing 84 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: that you would not teach to your kid, and and 85 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: to go swing like that. There there are some unorthodox 86 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: movements in there, and then he goes out and performs 87 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: like an MVP year and a year out. Uh, it's 88 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 1: pretty pretty remarkable. If Patrick he's been, you know he's not. 89 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: You don't splash a Kyle Tucker quote in a headline, 90 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: you don't. You're not going to get these Pete R. 91 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: Armstrong quotes that Marquee is gonna throw up on on 92 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: their social media pages. 93 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 2: Sprinkled with like F bombs and stuff like that. 94 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 1: The way he tucks. Yeah, yeah, I saw so much 95 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 1: petekro Armstrong content early this week from Atlanta. I barely 96 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: noticed that Kyle Tucker was out there. That that's nothing 97 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: against either one of those players. Yeah, different players, different personalities, 98 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: different ways of going about business. But I feel like 99 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: you had a solid conversation with Kyle Tucker and got to, 100 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, see a different side of him is 101 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: the right way to put it, But you just you 102 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: had like an engaging, thoughtful conversation that sometimes I feel 103 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: like it is hard to get with a guy like that. 104 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the good way to describe as like 105 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 2: he's not a standoffish person. I think, you know, everyone 106 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: around the clubs finds him to be very pleasant and agreeable. 107 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: But he just shows a different inside to his like 108 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 2: teammates and the people in uniform. And I think that 109 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 2: has been the strongest kind of vibe that he's presented 110 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: to the Cubs. It's the way he loves just to 111 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 2: be one of the guys and like hang out with 112 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 2: the boys. I asked him about that that boat trip 113 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 2: on Lake Michigan that caught a lot of attention on 114 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: social media, and he was like, it just seemed like 115 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 2: a fun off day thing to do. Like he credited 116 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: Justin Turner for it. He said he was open to players, families, 117 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 2: clubhouse staff. I do think that showed how this is 118 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 2: a pretty tight knit group. But he just sort of 119 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: laughed when you know, I said, you know, it seems 120 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: like people kind of read into that lot is Yeah, 121 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 2: people are going to do that, Fans have fun with it. 122 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 2: We were just like we should do a boat day 123 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: every day, like just this kind of like you know, 124 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: he's so tall, uh, and he just carries himself as 125 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: if you know, he sort of just rolled out of 126 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: bed but you know, like what Council said, it's just 127 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 2: so smooth, and I think it's been a good counterbalance 128 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: to a team that is very like serious and guys 129 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: are all about their process and you need that. It's 130 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 2: not a criticism, but players notice this immediately in April 131 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 2: of just like he brings this like loose energy and 132 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: this easy confidence because of who he is and how 133 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: he carries himself. And that's something that you know is 134 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 2: impossible to measure, but shows up across a really long season. 135 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 3: Yeah. 136 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: I get a kick out of fans, you know, kind 137 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: of reading into everything. I have no problem with it. 138 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: I think it's fun. I hope they you know, they 139 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: play it up and you know, do whatever they can get, 140 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: get themselves in whatever mindset they need to be, and 141 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: to convince themselves that Kyle Tucker is coming back. Look, 142 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: he's he is doing things that seems like he's getting 143 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: ingrained in the community. That's great. It just seems like 144 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: he's a good guy and also likes being around his 145 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: team mates, likes this city. I just don't know if 146 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: that's gonna matter come this offseason, and I would I 147 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: would recommend to fans to just enjoy this summer right now, 148 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: because he is really good and he is really impactful, 149 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: and this season has been wildly entertaining after years of 150 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: like middling performance or bad performance from the team overall. 151 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: So it just, you know, I get the desire to 152 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: look past this season and it is something that we 153 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: do and it's something we will continue to do. But 154 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: also just enjoy this guy. He's incredibly talented, a rare talent. 155 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: And it's nice too. 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Like it's 196 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: different if you're talking about the major league roster, but overall, 197 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: I just I wouldn't assume that there that you know 198 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: that anyone at Triple A is you know, or even 199 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: like really talented guy like Jefferson Rojas. Look, I don't 200 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: think they're gonna trade Jefferson Rojas. It's not someone that 201 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: would be in my that i'd mentioned. But I also 202 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: don't think that they would just say like he's off 203 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: the table for certain players. Sure he's not gonna be 204 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: I would be surprised if they're moving him for a rental. 205 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: But if someone's available, they can help this team for years. 206 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: Anyone's available. My number one player that I think has 207 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: a good chance to be traded is Jordan Wicks. I 208 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: think Jordan Wicks hasn't fully come into his own, but 209 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: he is a major league pitcher. I think a team 210 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: that maybe has that that's willing to have some patience 211 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: with him and and just give him, however many starts 212 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: down the final two and a half months of the season, 213 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: two plus months of the season, just say here, you're 214 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: in our rotation. Take your lumps if if they you know, 215 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: or or here, make two starts to drip. We want 216 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: to try something with you. This is what we see. Okay, 217 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: now you're in the rotation. You go start every day. 218 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: Because he is I feel like there's not much left 219 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:13,319 Speaker 1: to prove at Triple A, but he's not really consistent 220 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: enough at the big leagues for the clubs to keep 221 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: him up there. He shows these flashes. He's matured as 222 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: a person, I believe, and understands the work it takes 223 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: in between your outings to really be ready and prepared. 224 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: It just hasn't all come together, and it just feels 225 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: like this is the right type of guy that can 226 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: be used in a trade. 227 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned Jefferson Rojas because he was 228 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 2: kind of on our radar last year as like a 229 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 2: guy to monitor, and I think this year, just the 230 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 2: major league club has just came out of the gates 231 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 2: so fast, we just haven't really had the time to 232 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: focus on the same way. But he's twenty years old, 233 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 2: signed out of the Dominican Republic, at high a south bend, 234 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: can play shortstop as an eight seventy one ops Like, 235 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 2: this is a guy. If you go back to spring 236 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: training in twenty four I was kind of asking around 237 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: just to do a different type of story, and it's like, no, 238 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 2: you're You're on the right track. 239 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: This is the guy. 240 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: And I think that's a team. That's a player that 241 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 2: other teams are going to ask about, particularly if they 242 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 2: try to get the guy who comes under club control 243 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 2: for multiple years, or really high end player that maybe 244 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: we're not thinking of. I think right now teams would 245 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 2: love to get like major League adjacent sort of players, 246 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 2: and the Cups have a bunch of those guys at 247 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 2: Triple IOWA. I think Owen Casey is probably the number 248 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 2: one guy on that list. When you think back to 249 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: twenty one that trade deadline, when Jed shipped out all 250 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 2: those players in the twenty sixteen World Series, team, it 251 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 2: was hard, hard for them to get traction with like 252 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 2: guys who could just plug into their lineup. I mean, 253 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: and even the guy that they did get once he 254 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 2: was healthy, Nick Madrigal, did not you know, perform. And 255 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 2: so if Casey is that left handed hitter that spent 256 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 2: a lot of time at Triple A Iowa, I want 257 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 2: to say, maybe parts of two maybe three years at 258 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 2: this point where he's been an upper level minor league 259 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: hitter for a long time, that to me is a 260 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: guy that might have to wind up going. And I 261 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 2: do think there's a cluster of those players there with 262 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: Moises by Asteros, James Treanto's, Kevin Acontara, Like it'd be 263 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 2: interesting to see how much, if at all, they deal 264 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 2: from that because they are concerned about that cliff, Like 265 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 2: I know, the cue they just got good this first half, 266 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: but they're already like aware of after twenty twenty six, 267 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 2: all the guys who can become free agents. In addition 268 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 2: to the be honest, the likelihood that Kyle Tucker will 269 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 2: be gone for this year, like that is something that 270 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 2: is very much front of mind. And I think one 271 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 2: other quick note pitching wise, I mean, Jackson Wiggins, we 272 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 2: were told who is kind of popping more as a prospect. Now, 273 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: I believe they'd sort of, you know, not totally shut 274 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 2: him down, but they're kind of concerned about his work 275 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: if workload management in mind, if he has not pitched 276 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 2: in a bit, I think they were kind of looking 277 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 2: at after the All Star break as a way to 278 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 2: kind of reincorporate him into a pitching staff. 279 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. 280 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard the same workload management, and he'll be 281 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 1: back out there at some point later this month. I'd 282 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: be a little surprised if he's also like he's one 283 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: of like I put him in the Jefferson rojasal category. 284 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: But you know, like I said, you don't take anyone 285 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: off the table. I'm not saying that they're not. That 286 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: this is a thing where they're just not going to 287 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: do that, but I wouldn't. I would. I would put 288 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: him in that category. I would put I think Owen 289 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: Casey is certainly like in that category of like this 290 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: guy is going to be asked about a ton he 291 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 1: is hitting the cover off the ball. It's one of 292 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,719 Speaker 1: those situations where if the Cubs kind of had like 293 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: this average outfielder out there that that wasn't like locked 294 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 1: into the lineup. They're not. They're not moving Ian Half 295 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 1: to the bench. You know, like Ian Half is a 296 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: big part of this team. I know he's been slumping. 297 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: They're not They're not moving him to the bench. They're 298 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: just not doing that. But if they had a spot, 299 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 1: I think it would make sense. You'd be wondering, like, oh, 300 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: can Owen Casey come up and help this team right 301 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: now and then maybe like have two weeks before he's 302 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,919 Speaker 1: traded or maybe so good that they keep them. I 303 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: don't think that's gonna happen. I think that he is 304 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: exactly what you were talking about. Teams are desperate for 305 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: these types of players immediate, like someone that can come 306 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: up right away and has upside of the power upside, 307 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: the power impact, the type of player that he could be. Yeah, 308 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: there's a lot of swing a miss. He's not a 309 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: perfect player. There's flaws there. But that's why you know, 310 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: that's that's why he's not like a top ten prospect. 311 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: But he's a very good prospect. He's a top fifty prospect, 312 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: and I think he's gotten a little bit better this 313 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: year results wise, and that that's important. Al Contra just 314 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 1: had a leg injury. I believe nothing significant. I think 315 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: he's out in Arizona getting some work in, just getting hot. 316 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: Absolutely prototypical al Contra season right now slow April, not awful, 317 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: but not opening any eyes, slowly gets better than has 318 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: monster June in July, and now he's battling like a 319 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: very minor injury. This is just kind of what happens 320 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: with Kevin Olcontra. But he's so talented. Wouldn't be shocked 321 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: if teams want him. A random name, we'll see if 322 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: he works his way up. Back up is Brandon bird Cell, 323 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: who's who's finally healthy and working his way back into things. 324 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: Uh Toreanto's has had a really rough season. I don't 325 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: know where he stands, but yeah, that that's a guy 326 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: that that I would keep an eye on as far 327 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: as UH trade talks. Here, here's another name if they 328 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 1: want to keep, if they like. If you're just looking 329 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: at they have a lot of outfielders in Casey and 330 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: al Contra. Christian Franklin is probably a major league player 331 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: at some point in the near future. He's he's hitting 332 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: pretty well this season. I don't think he's He's not 333 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: owing Casey level obviously, but if I remember well he 334 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: started off hot, uh and and now he's kind of 335 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: he's just maybe a little bit above league average. If 336 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: he is, he's Yeah, he's about like a one toweight 337 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: way to runs great, a plush, solid power, can play 338 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: center field, takes a ton of walks. The swing and 339 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: miss was a concern out of out of college. It's 340 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: not as as awful as as one's concerned, you know, 341 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: as ones considered. I think that's like a major league 342 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 1: player that you could include in a trade. Those are 343 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: the types of like Owen Casey is probably the big 344 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 1: like the centerpiece of a trade, of a big trade. 345 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: But you don't give this is my opinion, if you're 346 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: getting one rental player back, I wouldn't give up Owen Casey. Yeah, 347 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 1: Like I don't. I think he's too valuable for that. 348 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: Like if if you're talking about two rental players, Okay, 349 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: now you start thinking about it, But I think you 350 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: want a little bit more club control if you're giving 351 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: up Owen Casey, especially when we're talking about the idea 352 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: of losing Kyle Tucker, there are different ways to fill 353 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: that in. We haven't touched a lot on Moses' biosteris 354 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: I don't I don't know, Like I think that's an 355 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: interesting one, but you do have to consider that there's 356 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: a lot like you don't want to empty out the 357 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: farm twenty twenty six, Like you said, they don't want 358 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: to fall off that cliff. That's why I say, Jefferson Rojas, listen, Look, 359 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: he can play short I'm not sure if people look 360 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,360 Speaker 1: at him as like this guy's a lockdown shortstop. He's 361 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: playing there for sure. Nico Horner has two years left 362 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: on his contract, like Jefferson Rojas fits in perfectly. One 363 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: final thought for me on this, at least, I like 364 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: to kind of get your thoughts. I don't I haven't 365 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,199 Speaker 1: heard anything about this. This would be pure speculation. I 366 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: don't think they'd do it. But in the right move, 367 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: does Matt Shaw suddenly because is he suddenly available? You know? 368 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 2: I had that exact same thought, sort of reading my mind. 369 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 2: I have no intel on that. I still think you'd 370 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 2: be trading him at a low point. I'm not sure how. 371 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: I don't know if he really has that wow factor 372 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 2: at that point. And I think it's kind of one 373 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 2: of those things too, of you know, the timing of 374 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 2: when you trade guys. But certainly you can't, can't dismiss it, 375 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 2: and that was our understanding. Was sort of like the 376 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: name a lot of teams would have asked for last 377 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: off season. Like I don't think the Cubs were totally 378 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 2: off in their evaluation. I think he was the name 379 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 2: outside of really you know, the Astros wanting Cam Smith, 380 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 2: but we know Jed and how he operates. It's kind 381 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 2: of rare to deal off your major league roster, but certainly, 382 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: and he's not a cell Low type guy. If anything, 383 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 2: you'll hold on to seaw way too long. But yeah, 384 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 2: I his name is one that in the back of 385 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: my head, and the other one would be like Ben Brown, 386 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 2: Like if you need pitcher right away, there's got to 387 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:08,360 Speaker 2: be a team out there that looks at Ben Brown's size, 388 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 2: the flashes he swe in, the majors, his stuff, all 389 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 2: that of kind of a why not ah, similar to Wicks, 390 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 2: just not in terms of stuff, but just plug them in, 391 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 2: see what happens, sees, see what clicks in in a 392 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 2: different environment, and you may have a really nice long 393 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 2: term piece for your for your club. 394 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I that's that's the other name. I was 395 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: thinking there. I knew there was one more. Uh yeah, 396 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: I think there and there's Look, there's there's pieces all 397 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: throughout the miners that we're not gonna touch on right here, 398 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: but there's there's guys that at every level that are 399 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: that are interesting, whether it's Christian Hernandez, whether it's the 400 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: lower levels some you know recent guys that have pot 401 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: like that were recently drafted that haven't really popped yet, 402 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: or or you know, teams, teams identify talent all over. 403 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: Like Ty Johnson wasn't on our radar when he was 404 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 1: traded to the Rays last year, and then I looked 405 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: at his numbers, I was like, this guy was pretty good. Okay, Uh, 406 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think he's dominating like he was 407 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: last year. But you know, there's all sorts of players 408 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: and you got to you you have to be pretty aware. 409 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 1: I mean, you have to have your strength needs to 410 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 1: be evaluating your own talent internally and feeling confident that, uh, 411 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: it's not going to bite you giving up giving up 412 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: a guy they knew what they had. It wasn't like 413 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: the Cubs were clueless when they gave up camp Smith. 414 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: They didn't want to give up camp Smith. The Astros 415 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: weren't going to weren't going to make that trade without 416 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: camp Smith included. That's that's the reality of these things. 417 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 1: Sometimes the other team wants good players, uh. 418 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 2: As all you get the right players, I think you 419 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,479 Speaker 2: can't worry that much about what happens later, and like, 420 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,880 Speaker 2: whoever they give up, there's gonna be way more chances 421 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 2: for them to make you look bad. But that's just 422 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 2: how how it works. Like if you have Kyle Tucker, 423 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 2: we started the show with it like he's been awesome, period, 424 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 2: Like you have a chance to win a world series, period, 425 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 2: and you know, you figure out the other the next 426 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 2: you know, six years as it comes, Like I just 427 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 2: don't like even looking back to what they did after, 428 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 2: you know, leading into twenty sixteen and out of twenty sixteen, 429 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 2: like Eloi Jimenez, I think just got released again the 430 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 2: other day, Like it's just you know, Dylan c has 431 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 2: been really awesome for stretches, but he's also been kind 432 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 2: of like at certain times, you know, and Glaboratorius so 433 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 2: good for him making the All Star Game, and he 434 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 2: had some nice moments in New York, but I think 435 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 2: Yankees weren't like distraught when when he left. I think 436 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 2: just with all these guys, you see it like it's 437 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 2: hard to be great every single year, and that's why 438 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 2: guys like Kyle Tucker get paid. 439 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: All right, Patrick, Let's take one more quick break and 440 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: wrap this up when we come back. Hey, have you 441 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: heard of Built? No? Do you pay rent? Yes? Okay, good, 442 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: let's talk. 443 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 5: There's no cost to join, and just by paying rent, 444 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 5: you unlock flexible points that can be transferred to your 445 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 5: favorite hotels and airlines, a future rent payment, your next 446 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 5: lift right, and much more. 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We don't need to monitor them 471 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: for now. That Al East is uh, I guess it 472 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: looks like it's anyone's division really outside of Baltimore who's 473 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: really struggled this year. Uh, this is this is probably 474 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: one of the tougher series outside of Milwaukee that the 475 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: Cubs have for a while. Like it's Milwaukee, Toronto later 476 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: in August, and Boston. They have a schedule coming up 477 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: that should line them up pretty well. I saw something 478 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: that said, Patrick that they have the easiest strength of 479 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: schedule for the second half, that brutal April. You know, 480 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: we'd be said it all along. You survive that, we'll 481 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: see what happens. They did really well in that really 482 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: weak stretch. They they've they've kind of held served through 483 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: some difficult through another difficult stretch, and now now we'll 484 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: see that they could be a much better We just 485 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: last episode and early on in just the last segment 486 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: we're talking about the trade deadline. They should be a 487 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: better team by August first. So if you're a better team, 488 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: other teams are weaker. You know. I just think like 489 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: we could be looking at a chance that they have 490 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 1: a great opportunity here. Like we talked about earlier this week, 491 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: Craig Council does a great job managing his team in 492 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: the second half as well, no doubt. 493 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 2: I just feel I just have a gut feeling we're 494 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 2: going to see like a huge Alex Bregman game this 495 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 2: weekend that would certainly be a good storyline for us. 496 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 2: The Brewers simply will not go away and definitely circling 497 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 2: that three game series in Milwaukee, the last one before 498 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: the trade deadline. I think things could get uncomfortable for 499 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 2: the Cubs. I think this team is going to be 500 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 2: tested or face adversity at a level they have not 501 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 2: seen yet. I know they've dealt with injuries to the rotation, 502 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 2: not everything has gone right, but they haven't had that 503 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 2: one really long skin yet. Maybe they could avoid it 504 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 2: for the entire year. Most teams usually don't. And also 505 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 2: right after that Red Sox Series two the Kansas City Royals. 506 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 2: I mean that's three games against a team that has 507 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 2: some interesting pitching and you know, kind of a recent 508 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 2: history of being able to match up with Cubs on 509 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 2: sort of like you know, not minor deals but not 510 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 2: like blockbusters, just kind of like basic roster maintenance. They've 511 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 2: kind of matched up a couple of times over the years. 512 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 2: So like do they leave Wrigley Field fully confident selling 513 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 2: or they kind of on the fence. Like, I think 514 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: there's gonna be a lot kind of packed into these 515 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 2: next two weeks here, and then to your point, there's 516 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 2: gonna be that kind of exhale. I think there kind 517 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 2: of always is right after the deadline of like, okay, 518 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 2: you know that this is the group you have going forward. 519 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 2: I mean, talk about facing their first series after the 520 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 2: trade deadline is the it's gonna be the Orioles at home. 521 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 2: Like I think you much rather face the Orioles than 522 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 2: than when they're sort of, you know, trying to furiously 523 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 2: rally back and make things interesting. And the other thing too, 524 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 2: is like we learned the last couple of years, like 525 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 2: these series matter. We saw it happened in twenty three 526 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 2: when the Cubs got hot, Like front offices like pay attention, 527 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 2: Like we're not it's not a media thing. We're not exaggerating. 528 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 2: We say, like the season can hang in the balance 529 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 2: on this like week in July, Like the Cubs just 530 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 2: kept winning in that July twenty twenty three, Yeah, and 531 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 2: force Jed it's not only hold on to Cody Bellinger, 532 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 2: but also go out and acquire Jamber Candelario. So it's 533 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 2: kind of a fascinating week. Then like it's kind of 534 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 2: dog days of August to a certain extent, and then 535 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 2: obviously September, we'll see, like if the Brewers can keep 536 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 2: winning at this absurd pace. What did the Cardinals do 537 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 2: at the trade deadline? Do the Reds sort of figure 538 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 2: things out? Like because they have a lot of really 539 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 2: interesting pieces and you know, a Hall of Fame caliber manager. 540 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean that Baltimore series should be one of 541 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: those like, Okay, the Cubs should be feeling kind of 542 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: high and Baltimore may may be feeling low. And that's 543 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: one of those that like, let's kick off the final 544 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: two months with the bang type thing. I do think 545 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: Milwaukee is a really tough schedule in these finals. They're 546 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: a good team though, so they can maybe they can 547 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: overcome that. And and I just would not write them off. 548 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: I keep writing them off and they keep getting better. Uh, 549 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: they just have so much talent and they have always 550 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: found ways to win that Cincinnati series. They are going 551 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: to be pesky with Terry Francona at the helm. He 552 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if they'll get fully hot and make 553 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,240 Speaker 1: a full run for this division, but they certainly have 554 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: the talent. They have a ton of young talent. They're 555 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: pitching can be scary, but then they do have some 556 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: injury issues that pop up. This is you know, I 557 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: do think that I agree with you. I'm really curious 558 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,680 Speaker 1: to see what Kansas City does and when they if 559 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: and when they start moving. And you're right, like this 560 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: next week we are going to see a lot of 561 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: teams make that call Arizona Diamondbacks, Minnesota Twins, Kansas City Royals. 562 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,479 Speaker 1: There's probably a few others that I'm missing that they 563 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,719 Speaker 1: want to be in there. They want to be in it. 564 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: They probably believe their teams are good enough to be 565 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,479 Speaker 1: in it. But whatever happens in a span of like 566 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: seven to ten games could change the direction. It sounds ridiculous, 567 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,719 Speaker 1: but these teams have to make decisions. They have to 568 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: And like Jed loves it, Jed loves it. He always 569 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: talks about how deadlines spur action, and you know, we're 570 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: going to see some teams that thought they were, you know, 571 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: buyers a month ago suddenly have to make the shift 572 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: and start selling off pieces. Especially these smaller markets like 573 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: the ones I mentioned of Minnesota, Kansas City, and Arizona. 574 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: They can't miss these opportunities. If they have impending free 575 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: agents and they keep them and then they fall ten 576 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: games short of the playoffs, it looks really bad and 577 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,919 Speaker 1: it's a huge missed opportunity. So you can't you can't 578 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: allow that to happen. So these these teams have to 579 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: be aggressive. They have to make a decision and then 580 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: quickly be aggressive. Time to be opportunistic, Yes, exactly all right, Patrick, 581 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 1: it should be a fun, fun weekend. Cubs Red Sox 582 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 1: is always fun wherever it is regular Fenway. It's just 583 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: a fun time. Red Sox are playing so well. We'll 584 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: see how it goes. See if the Cubs can start 585 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: the second half off well, we'll be back at it 586 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: next week. Thanks so much for listening to everyone. This 587 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: is no side territory. Foul territory networks cut this podcast. 588 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: Make sure to rate, review, subscribe, subscribe to the YouTube channel, 589 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: and subscribe to The Athletic where Patrick and I are 590 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: on top of all things Cubs. Thanks for listening to everyone. 591 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: Take it