Speaker 1: Hello, Hello there.
Speaker 2: What's your name?
Speaker 3: Mave?
Speaker 2: Mave? What's going on? Mave?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: So I am talking to a felon right now with
Speaker 1: face tattoos, and I cannot decide if I like him
Speaker 1: or not. It's very confusing.
Speaker 2: Where'd you meet this this young lad on tender? Okay?
Speaker 2: What's going through your brain as you're attempting to decide
Speaker 2: whether or not you like him?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 1: So the thing is he was in jail for seven years,
Speaker 1: and that's not really my issue with him, Like that
Speaker 1: just kind of makes it a little more interesting. Like
Speaker 1: my problem is when we are talking, like on the phone,
Speaker 1: he doesn't really ask me that many questions, Like he's
Speaker 1: kind of quiet. It's usually just me talking and then
Speaker 1: he like he just laughs because I'm funny, but he
Speaker 1: just laughs.
Speaker 2: Okay, So what so so far, you've only given me
Speaker 2: reasons as to why you might not like him. Do
Speaker 2: you have reasons why you do like him?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 1: He has a really good job. He works through like
Speaker 1: the coast Guard, and he's really sweet, honestly, Like when
Speaker 1: he does talk, he's really nice. He has a bunch
Speaker 1: of tattoos and I only have three. And I was
Speaker 1: telling him how I want more, and he said we
Speaker 1: should go get tattoos together. I'll pay and I was like,
Speaker 1: no way, and he was like, yeah, I would be
Speaker 1: six hundred dollars a day, which is an insane thing
Speaker 1: to just tell somebody how much money you make. But
Speaker 1: that's a lot of money. And that's not like the
Speaker 1: main reason why I like him.
Speaker 4: It is because he's sweet. But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if like he just needs to come
Speaker 1: out of a shell or.
Speaker 2: What do you what do you do? We know what?
Speaker 2: He went to prison for.
Speaker 1: Firearms trafficking.
Speaker 2: How old is he?
Speaker 1: Twenty seven? So he's six years older than me.
Speaker 2: M How long have you been talking to him?
Speaker 4: For about a.
Speaker 1: Week and a half, I think, And he texts me
Speaker 1: all the time, like, even though he's like works a lot,
Speaker 1: he does text me a decent amount, even though like
Speaker 1: it's a little bit dry when he does, like he
Speaker 1: calls me sweetheart and darling and like all these really
Speaker 1: sweet things. So I just can't decide if like the
Speaker 1: being kind of dry is a deciding factor and whether
Speaker 1: or not I should stop talking to him.
Speaker 2: Uh, what's your name again? Mave? Yes, what do you want?
Speaker 4: Mave?
Speaker 2: What do you what are you looking for? What would
Speaker 2: make you? What in this life? What do you want?
Speaker 2: Are you looking for? Uh? You know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Are you looking for like a partner to you know,
Speaker 2: a go go through life with and you know, grow together.
Speaker 2: Are you looking for just you're having fun, you're young,
Speaker 2: you're going crazy, You're meeting people, you're hanging out. What?
Speaker 2: What do you? What do you want? Mayve?
Speaker 1: There is a lot of things I want in life
Speaker 1: when it comes to like relationships, I just want to
Speaker 1: be loved like fully and wholeheartedly. I just want somebody
Speaker 1: who loves me and cares about me and would do
Speaker 1: anything for me.
Speaker 2: Someone who loves you, cares about you and would do
Speaker 2: anything for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he like shows me how much they love me, you.
Speaker 2: Know, Okay, okay? Would you if he if if he
Speaker 2: brought you a giant box that was wrapped in gift
Speaker 2: wrap and you opened it and it was an illegally
Speaker 2: purchased RPG, would you be flattered by that? This is
Speaker 2: how much I love you?
Speaker 3: Look at this.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I probably would be kind of flattered by that
Speaker 1: extensive You just dropped like five hundred dollars to give
Speaker 1: me a bazooka. That's sweet, that's thoughtful, you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Well this is tough, mate, because I really
Speaker 2: I I don't really want to tell you what to
Speaker 2: do with your life or what to value. But I
Speaker 2: would be very careful about letting. I would be careful
Speaker 2: about a few things. One is if this dude, if
Speaker 2: you've known this dude for a week and he's he's
Speaker 2: coming off, well have you have you met him in person?
Speaker 1: No, he's in Florida and I'm in Virginia. But he's
Speaker 1: only going to be there for a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: because that's like his job. He works in Florida for
Speaker 1: like a month at a time, and then he has
Speaker 1: three weeks off.
Speaker 2: Okay, But and here's that. I would be a little
Speaker 2: wary of somebody who you have not met, that you've
Speaker 2: been talking to for only a week, who's already hitting
Speaker 2: you with the darling and my love and the you know,
Speaker 2: it's a lot, it's a lot for you know, a
Speaker 2: week and a half. I don't like to use pop
Speaker 2: psychology with TikTok whatever you would call it, but are
Speaker 2: you familiar with with love bombing?
Speaker 1: I am, and I have definitely experienced love bombing quite
Speaker 1: a few times. But I don't think this is it
Speaker 1: because he's not like, oh, really praising me. He's just
Speaker 1: saying like sweet things, which I do like, Like, I
Speaker 1: feel like I'd be less inclined to talk to him
Speaker 1: if he didn't. Maybe that's on me. Maybe I'm used
Speaker 1: to being loved.
Speaker 4: What.
Speaker 2: Okay, So you've had experiences in the past where you've
Speaker 2: met people and they've come on very strong.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've had a guy tell me he loved
Speaker 1: me within like two weeks of dating, and then I
Speaker 1: broke up with him for that because that was just
Speaker 1: a little extreme.
Speaker 2: Okay, how did that? I was gonna ask, how did
Speaker 2: that end up? So you he so that? So telling
Speaker 2: you he loves you within two weeks is extreme, But
Speaker 2: you're not. You're not finding anything wrong right now with
Speaker 2: this guy who's uh, you know, hitting you with with
Speaker 2: all this stuff without even knowing you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean we have like talked on the phone quite
Speaker 1: a bit, and he's told me like a little bit
Speaker 1: about himself. I feel like it's mainly me talking, which
Speaker 1: is like the issue. So I feel like I don't
Speaker 1: even really know him that well, which kind of sucks
Speaker 1: because like, he definitely knows a lot about me.
Speaker 2: Do you do you ask him questions about his life?
Speaker 1: Yeah? And when I do, he only responds with like
Speaker 1: a couple words.
Speaker 2: Maybe now you said that you're talking to him. He
Speaker 2: doesn't ask you any questions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And though when he does, it's usually like kind
Speaker 1: of basic stuff like what's your favorite food, what's your
Speaker 1: favorite color? That kind of thing.
Speaker 2: So I do, I don't. I still don't. What do you?
Speaker 2: Why do you like this guy?
Speaker 1: Because he's sweet when he does when he does like talk,
Speaker 1: he says a lot of sweet things and he's nice,
Speaker 1: and it's like, I do find the face touched. He's
Speaker 1: kind of hot, even though I don't like the He
Speaker 1: has a monster logo on his face.
Speaker 2: And that wait he has hold on, hold on, hold on,
Speaker 2: hold on. He has the Monster Energy logo tattooed on
Speaker 2: his face. Yeah, Jesus Christ math.
Speaker 1: Exactly. Okay, that is the only tattoo of his that
Speaker 1: I'm like, baby were on his face?
Speaker 2: Is it like, does it look like the zoo? Wait?
Speaker 2: Does it look like the Zuko scar?
Speaker 3: On?
Speaker 2: Like he's a scar across his eyes, but it's the
Speaker 2: Monster Energy logo.
Speaker 1: No, it's on his cheek, directly visible, like, not even
Speaker 1: on his forehead where it could be covered by some hair.
Speaker 4: It is out there.
Speaker 2: All right. Let's you want all right, you want to
Speaker 2: get We can get more into this if you want,
Speaker 2: because all right, you want someone that loves you. Let's
Speaker 2: do let's let's do this. Do you are you? Do
Speaker 2: you like yourself?
Speaker 1: I do like I think I'm pretty and I think
Speaker 1: I'm funny. I do have an issue with like in
Speaker 1: my personality sometimes because I've had a very rough life
Speaker 1: and I've been bullied a lot by my family and
Speaker 1: things like that, and so it can be kind I'm
Speaker 1: in real therapy too, so you don't have to worry
Speaker 1: about that. But yeah, so it's kind of a complicated issue.
Speaker 1: Like there are things that I love about myself and
Speaker 1: there are things that I'm still working on trying to appreciate.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, what's your real If you were to tell
Speaker 2: your real therapist about this guy, what do you think
Speaker 2: they would say or if you have.
Speaker 1: That's a good question. I haven't talked to her about
Speaker 1: him yet. I think she would be okay with it.
Speaker 1: I think she would just tell me to be careful
Speaker 1: since he was like in jail before. Yeah, yeah, but
Speaker 1: I think she would approve. I mean, she knows that I'm, like,
Speaker 1: I'm much more likely to stop talking to somebody than
Speaker 1: I am to get into a really ship. So I
Speaker 1: think she knows that I I'm a little more careful
Speaker 1: than most people.
Speaker 2: Okay, because that's what I would say too. I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna be like, you know, never talk to anyone or
Speaker 2: do anything ever, but like, you know, do you think,
Speaker 2: do what you're gonna do, but you know, be careful.
Speaker 2: Don't get if this guy's you know, whisking up spells,
Speaker 2: you know, don't don't fall into his cauldron.
Speaker 1: Gotcha. I feel like he doesn't need witchcraft if he
Speaker 1: has all the fire arms.
Speaker 2: That's well. Because I also I'm a little weary about
Speaker 2: anyone who tries to like like I under okay, I
Speaker 2: under Here's the thing with like money and dating is
Speaker 2: like I understand money being attractive as a like symbol
Speaker 2: of just like competence, because competence is very attractive, and
Speaker 2: so like, you know, you want somebody who can like
Speaker 2: take you out every now and then and then you know,
Speaker 2: pay for things and just like be like it's a
Speaker 2: sign of a competent person to like, you know, have
Speaker 2: their financial life in order. But beyond that, when it
Speaker 2: becomes like let me woo you by you know, showing
Speaker 2: off you know, fancy things, and uh you know, or
Speaker 2: or or even worse, if you get into a fucking
Speaker 2: thing where like somebody's like bankrolling your life, and then
Speaker 2: that creates a weird dynamic between you two. You know,
Speaker 2: that's where I think that stuff gets a little weird.
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, I feel like I wouldn't let that happen.
Speaker 1: But a lot of the guys that have dated in
Speaker 1: the past, it's been like me paying for stuff most
Speaker 1: of the time. It kind of sucks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand that. Yeah, so again, like if you're
Speaker 2: attracted to the money as a sign of like competence
Speaker 2: and like, oh, this guy has at least his life
Speaker 2: together enough that he you know, can support himself and
Speaker 2: and you know whatnot I understand that. But again, beyond that,
Speaker 2: it's not like we don't want you know, you move
Speaker 2: in with this like don't don't fuck it, don't do
Speaker 2: stupid shit like don't move in with this guy after
Speaker 2: three weeks and have him pay a the rent and
Speaker 2: don't do anything like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, why not Why wouldn't I do that?
Speaker 2: Why I you know, I can tell you. I will
Speaker 2: give you a reason why you shouldn't do that, because
Speaker 2: you should be That's because that's gonna be not beneficial
Speaker 2: to you in the long run, because you want to
Speaker 2: develop your own life and sense of identity. And you know,
Speaker 2: just as I said money, it can be this sign
Speaker 2: of competence. You want to develop your own life competence
Speaker 2: and your own financial wellness and these own things. You
Speaker 2: don't want just some dude from Tender to do it
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a good point. I do have a
Speaker 1: lot of goals in life. I want to open my
Speaker 1: own bakery because I love baking and cooking and stuff.
Speaker 1: And then I also want to open a goth club
Speaker 1: because I'm goth and there's no like goth places, no
Speaker 1: spaces for goth people in my city, which is crazy
Speaker 1: because I'm in a big city.
Speaker 2: No, what's it? Can I ask? What? What's what's stay at?
Speaker 2: What city? Are you in?
Speaker 1: Richmond, Virginia?
Speaker 2: Richmond, Virginia. Okay, yeah, I don't know how many goths
Speaker 2: there are in Richmond, Virginia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but hey, you should come to DC because I
Speaker 1: can make that show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be there. I'll be the Miracle Theater sometime
Speaker 2: in September.
Speaker 1: I think, hell yeah.
Speaker 2: Well anyway, Uh, what are you going to do? I
Speaker 2: guess before we go? What are you? What are you
Speaker 2: leaning towards?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see if he comes out of his shell
Speaker 1: a little bit, because I feel like I can be
Speaker 1: kind of intimidating and it might also be like me
Speaker 1: just yapping a lot and not really giving him the
Speaker 1: chance to like really talk. I'll see if that's the issue.
Speaker 1: Like next time we talk on the phone, I'll be
Speaker 1: I'll be a little more like quiet and see if
Speaker 1: he's the one that like fills in the silences. Okay,
Speaker 1: but yeah, we'll see how that goes.
Speaker 2: All right. Well, if I need a wonder waff, I'll
Speaker 2: hit you up.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool is a.
Speaker 2: Wonder waft or wonder waffle? Hold on, I'm looking this
Speaker 2: up real quick before I get off the call. Okay,
Speaker 2: hold on, hold on. Yeah, it's a wonder waff, right
Speaker 2: wonder waff?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, Well, if I need a wonder waft, I'll
Speaker 2: hit you up. This is a joke about the gun
Speaker 2: from The Mystery Box and Call of Duty Zombies. Do
Speaker 2: you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 4: I got it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, you don't.
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: Do you know what I'm talking You know what I'm
Speaker 2: talking about?
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, the Mystery Box, of course, I know. It's
Speaker 1: the Mystery was game or Girls for like a solid
Speaker 1: four years.
Speaker 2: Okay, if it gets you a wonder waff, then you
Speaker 2: know you can live with him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that's understandable. That is verage material.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'll talk to you later.
Speaker 4: Man, good luck, all right, I have a good day.
Speaker 2: I don't know. People are gonna do whatever they're gonna do.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know shit. Because sometimes somebody
Speaker 2: will call me and be like, you know, hey, uh
Speaker 2: this is per I don't have an example, but some
Speaker 2: people will. People will be like, you know, I want
Speaker 2: to talk about like relationship or dating things, and in
Speaker 2: the back I don't. I don't like to overtly say it,
Speaker 2: but in the back of my mind, I'm like, I
Speaker 2: don't know about this. And then you know, I'll get
Speaker 2: a DM you know, two years later and be like
Speaker 2: me and this person are deeply in love and we're
Speaker 2: so happy and life's great, and I'll be like, well,
Speaker 2: what the fuck do I know about anything? So I
Speaker 2: don't know?
Speaker 4: Hello, Hello, I you can give me a name, all right?
Speaker 2: Your name is Dan. What's up Dan? How's life Dan?
Speaker 4: It's it's going It's kind of rough right now, kind
Speaker 4: of stay at home mom. Not much going on?
Speaker 2: Well, Dan, how can I get you today? What's going on?
Speaker 4: I'm just kind of in a midlife crisis. I know,
Speaker 4: my my whole world fell apart, and I I just
Speaker 4: don't know where to go from here. I'm stay at
Speaker 4: home mom widow and I don't know where to go
Speaker 4: from here.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, Well where are you right now? Metaphorically?
Speaker 4: I had to move back in with my grandparents just
Speaker 4: so I wasn't living alone. H And I have a toddler,
Speaker 4: So you have?
Speaker 2: You said? You have one kid?
Speaker 4: Two kids, two eleven and three.
Speaker 2: Eleven and three. How are they doing?
Speaker 4: Uh? They're doing good. Three year olds is a three
Speaker 4: year old wild tiddler and my eleven year old kind
Speaker 4: of went through it, but we're getting better now. It's
Speaker 4: been two and a half years since my husband passed.
Speaker 3: M hm.
Speaker 2: And what do you do for work?
Speaker 4: I'm I'm a stay home mom, right now that's kind
Speaker 4: of what I'm dealing with. I spent so much time
Speaker 4: helping people and kids and stuff, and I just, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm just lost in what.
Speaker 2: To do for that. M h. What were you doing
Speaker 2: before you were a stay at home mom? Or was
Speaker 2: your husband paying the bills? He was?
Speaker 4: But I basically did just the typical jobs like HOUSEKEI
Speaker 4: being customer service, hosting, UH, liquor stores, dog store.
Speaker 2: Dan, let me ask you a crazy question. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: ask you a crazy question. Okay, just why not just
Speaker 2: fuck it all right?
Speaker 4: Dan?
Speaker 2: If you could do any if your life could look
Speaker 2: like fucking anything for money, forget about you have all
Speaker 2: of it. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna go ahead and
Speaker 2: say you could even bend the laws of space, time
Speaker 2: and physics. You can, you can, you know you can
Speaker 2: break the law in this scenario. I'm gonna give you
Speaker 2: that too. You can do whatever you want at all.
Speaker 2: What what would what would it look like? What would
Speaker 2: the life look like?
Speaker 4: You know, simple life, you know, like a ranch, working
Speaker 4: on it. My dream technically was to work on homes,
Speaker 4: but my age kind of I don't know if I'm
Speaker 4: too old to get into that into construction and working
Speaker 4: with homes.
Speaker 2: How old are you?
Speaker 4: I'm going to be thirty two.
Speaker 2: You're talking, you're talking like you're seventy six years old.
Speaker 4: Well, when I told my grandpa, he laughed at me.
Speaker 4: He's like a woman at thirty two construction.
Speaker 2: Really, I'm genuinely I'm I'm by the way I want
Speaker 2: to say, I'm I'm simultaneously aghast and impressed that I
Speaker 2: told you you could break any law you want and
Speaker 2: have unlimited money and incorporate magic into this life. And
Speaker 2: you want to be a construction worker.
Speaker 4: That's very cool, right right, That's like the one passion
Speaker 4: that I have.
Speaker 2: That's phenomenal. That's great. So why is he saying? I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now, I have absolutely no idea
Speaker 2: how one becomes a construction worker? Do you have? Do you?
Speaker 2: Do you ever looked into it? Have you googled it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's there is a college around here that has
Speaker 4: the program for it. Okay, And I've been thinking about that.
Speaker 2: What's stopping you from doing it?
Speaker 4: I'm a stay at home all with the tall the
Speaker 4: right now, and just I'm just kind of scared that it,
Speaker 4: Like if I do like to stay at home saying
Speaker 4: and do some schooling that it's just not going to
Speaker 4: go anywhere, but it's just going to kind of steal
Speaker 4: out since I'm a home all the time.
Speaker 2: That is tough. Now the three Now these children they
Speaker 2: go to school.
Speaker 4: Correct, not the three year old?
Speaker 2: Not the three year old.
Speaker 4: That's just kind of what I'm battling with you.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: Have you looked into like is there is there are
Speaker 2: there daycares that that we can we can drop them
Speaker 2: off at?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: So that's what I was trying to figure out how
Speaker 4: to do like temp work where I could pay for
Speaker 4: that and school, but it just seems so much because
Speaker 4: daycare is so expensive right now?
Speaker 3: Mm?
Speaker 2: And you're living at your grandmother's house, right, Yeah, we
Speaker 2: just moved in here, and what's her deal was she doing?
Speaker 4: He just stays a home.
Speaker 2: I know it's a little difficult to ask for help,
Speaker 2: but could she help take care of them while you're
Speaker 2: at school? Yeah?
Speaker 4: They would be willing to. I guess it is just
Speaker 4: me having to just just do it, you know, like
Speaker 4: ask for it. I just I get nervous to ask
Speaker 4: for that too, because they already helped so much, you know.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmmmmmm.
Speaker 3: Hmm.
Speaker 2: But I mean, I mean, look, I'm just gonna say
Speaker 2: this with you. I was expecting. I mean, you have
Speaker 2: a very you have a you have a reasonable life.
Speaker 4: Goal, you know, right for sure?
Speaker 2: I like, it's not unfathomable for you to become a construction.
Speaker 2: The word your dad was at your dad, grandpa whoever
Speaker 2: he was, he was, he was acting like you were
Speaker 2: trying to become a fucking astronaut or something. Which look
Speaker 2: if that and look look if you wanted to do
Speaker 2: that too, I wouldn't. I wouldn't tell you you can't.
Speaker 2: But I mean, okay, so how much is it? Call?
Speaker 2: Can you? Is it expensive to go to school?
Speaker 4: I think I could get grants and stuff?
Speaker 2: Did you do this ship online nowadays?
Speaker 4: Construction?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I would think that some of it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like, I mean ninety percent of it
Speaker 2: is schematics, right, you're you're you got to plan the
Speaker 2: ship before you build.
Speaker 4: It and stuff. I'm a little worried about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, have you looked at have you looked into it?
Speaker 2: Can I can? I say? Can? I? All right, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna say another thing and tell me. And I'm not
Speaker 2: trying to put words into your I'm just tell me
Speaker 2: if is it, tell me if this is accurate. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to make assumptions about you in your life,
Speaker 2: but is this a path that you have avoided extensively
Speaker 2: researching because you dismissed it as not even feasible at
Speaker 2: the very beginning before even researching it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a little I kind of was discouraging myself.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, guys, I'm just saying if you get over
Speaker 2: that hump, because that I feel like this happens to
Speaker 2: a lot of people that uh, you know, we talked
Speaker 2: to one here, and just like in general, it's like
Speaker 2: they'll want to do something, but they'll like count themselves.
Speaker 2: They'll say it's impossible before even you know, doing a
Speaker 2: Google right right, right, So I guess I ask you
Speaker 2: to before completely writing yourself off Google Google around. You
Speaker 2: can sit on the couch while your kids run around
Speaker 2: and knock things over and hit each other and google
Speaker 2: stuff right right.
Speaker 4: And I did look at the average Oh sorry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you go ahead and go ahead.
Speaker 4: I did look that the average construction manage it manager
Speaker 4: is like forty two forty five, So there is time
Speaker 4: to like build up experience and stuff. I would I would.
Speaker 2: Hope, dude, you keep you are literally you talk about
Speaker 2: yourself like you're seventy six years old. You are not
Speaker 2: seventy six years old.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm not teventy six years old.
Speaker 2: So like I guess, I I hope, I hope if
Speaker 2: you if you get anything out from this phone call,
Speaker 2: it's too at the very least like not like write
Speaker 2: everything off before you know giving it a shot, you know, right,
Speaker 2: because you might because just that there might be there
Speaker 2: literally could exist programs for people in this situation like yours, grants, scholarships,
Speaker 2: this thing, that thing, but you're never gonna find out
Speaker 2: about them if you're starting position is I'm seventy six
Speaker 2: years old, I'm too old to do this, and I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna kind of not do anything, you know, So
Speaker 2: you got to give you got to give yourself a
Speaker 2: little bit of motivation to at least look into it,
Speaker 2: because you might find, oh, this path exists, I could
Speaker 2: I could hack it this way, I could hack it
Speaker 2: that way, right, you know, but if you write yourself
Speaker 2: off and then you know you're not gonna be.
Speaker 4: Able to do any of that, right, That's that's true.
Speaker 4: It's like I think he was thinking of it like
Speaker 4: me lifting beans and stuff, being like a roofer. But
Speaker 4: it doesn't have to be necessarily all of that. But
Speaker 4: I think you're canna lift the beam.
Speaker 2: You can lift a bean? Wait, what's a bean? What
Speaker 2: do you mean? Like literally beams? Beams? Yeah, beam, you
Speaker 2: can lift beams? Are still there?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm here.
Speaker 2: All right, we we Brandon. We're probably gonna cut this part.
Speaker 2: You know what, Brandon, you don't have to cut me
Speaker 2: saying what I'm saying right now out of the podcast.
Speaker 2: But literally, there was before you. I called you. I
Speaker 2: called you back. This is how the podcast works now
Speaker 2: is people text me stuff and I call them back
Speaker 2: while I'm streaming. And I tried to call you back
Speaker 2: because I thought your story was interesting, and you denied
Speaker 2: my call because you thought I was a spam caller.
Speaker 2: Is that correct?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: See, you got that's that is? I got no go ahead,
Speaker 2: what we're gonna say?
Speaker 4: No, I just I couldn't believe you called so soon.
Speaker 2: I honestly, like, all right, I believe that even that
Speaker 2: that's like a microcosm of this entire situation. You gotta
Speaker 2: open yourself up to the possibility that, you know, maybe
Speaker 2: it's not you know, someone from Social Security calling to collect.
Speaker 2: Maybe it's a gecko, you know right, Maybe I'm not
Speaker 2: seventy six years old. Maybe I can go be a
Speaker 2: construction worker. Who knows. I don't know. I'm just saying shit,
Speaker 2: I'm crazy.
Speaker 4: No, I love it. I feel a lot better talking
Speaker 4: to you.
Speaker 2: Okay, good, good. Give me a shooting. Update me. If
Speaker 2: if something that, send me an Instagram DM or whatever.
Speaker 2: Update me. I'm curious about it. If if this, uh,
Speaker 2: if you find something, send me an email in ten
Speaker 2: years and be like, you know what, I'm a construction worker.
Speaker 2: And because you know you motivated me on the phone call,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna build you a free house. Definitely send me
Speaker 2: that email if you want to that.
Speaker 4: I definitely will. I'm always watching too, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love I would love to live in a
Speaker 2: free house or or or or or you know what. Ghek,
Speaker 2: You've motivated me on the I'm gonna build a statue
Speaker 2: in your honor statue. Sorry I put that part in,
Speaker 2: but I I can't undersay that I said in front
Speaker 2: of your baby. Is that a baby?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a taller. He can't hear you.
Speaker 2: Okay, he doesn't know what anything is? No, Well, what's
Speaker 2: your name, Dan? I gave you the name Dan, Dan.
Speaker 2: Any anything else that you want to say to the
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go, or anything at
Speaker 2: all about life or death? Anything?
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 4: I I'm just happy you called, and I feel a
Speaker 4: lot better. I'm going to say that to myself that
Speaker 4: I'm not seventy six years old.
Speaker 2: Good, good, please do please do do it. Yeah, dear God,
Speaker 2: I mean really, I was expecting you to be like
Speaker 2: I want to live in a magical castle and have
Speaker 2: eighty trillion dollars.
Speaker 4: But no, I'm pretty I'm pretty humbled. Good, I'm pretty humbled, Dan.
Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to say to the
Speaker 2: people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: I keep listening. I love it, love your show.
Speaker 2: Thanks man, take care, good luck, Thank you.
Speaker 3: Thank you by.
Speaker 2: Listen. I don't I'm not going to claim to speak baby,
Speaker 2: but I think that he was talking shit just now.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna forgive it because he's a baby. He
Speaker 2: don't know better, he doesn't understand what he's saying. He
Speaker 2: doesn't understand he's challenging me to a fight, which I
Speaker 2: will win because he is a child. All right, Thanks
Speaker 2: for calling dan.
Speaker 3: Uh say, Lyle, Yeah, who is this hey?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 2: It's Isaac, Isaac? I sack, what's up? What's going on?
Speaker 2: I did? What are you gonna do about it? A?
Speaker 3: Nothing? That's actually what my brother says all the time.
Speaker 3: They respect around and tells me.
Speaker 2: That, what's your relationship like with your brother?
Speaker 3: Man? We love each other?
Speaker 2: What do you love about each other?
Speaker 3: Well? Well, we've did for each other. We helped each
Speaker 3: other out, you know, when he was going through a
Speaker 3: rough time, I let him stay in my apartment. When
Speaker 3: I was going to college, he let me stay at
Speaker 3: his place every once in a while.
Speaker 2: Did you do something? Because you sound even shittier on
Speaker 2: my morning.
Speaker 3: Walk, it's the cars backing by. So I'm gonna go
Speaker 3: find a bench right here at the park and just
Speaker 3: sit down and talk with you.
Speaker 2: What's the last nice thing your brother did for you?
Speaker 3: Oh? This this weekend, we do a birth Well, I
Speaker 3: guess you didn't do it for me. We's a birthday
Speaker 3: party for our other brother.
Speaker 2: Okay, the last nice thing that your brother did for
Speaker 2: you is throw a birthday party for someone else.
Speaker 3: No, like me and my brother, we threw a birthday
Speaker 3: party for our other brother.
Speaker 2: Wait, I mean, that's nice, But what's the last nice
Speaker 2: thing he did for you? Let's it's you and him
Speaker 2: working together to do a nice thing for someone else.
Speaker 3: Huh, that's a good question. I didn't think about that
Speaker 3: because he doesn't live here with me, so I don't
Speaker 3: pe him all the time. Huh hmm, you got me
Speaker 3: thinking about that.
Speaker 2: I have to say something. If you can't think of anything,
Speaker 2: it sounds like your brother is a total asshole. No,
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. What how did the what's the last
Speaker 2: nice thing that you did for your brother?
Speaker 3: So my brother I bought his baby onesie. It was
Speaker 3: kind of it's a dick move because he's a Raider fan.
Speaker 3: So I got a baby a Charger onesie.
Speaker 2: Yo, it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 3: I know, I know, man.
Speaker 2: I do you think he's gonna wear it?
Speaker 3: Oh? They already put it on him.
Speaker 2: Nice nice?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So you and your brother threw a
Speaker 2: birthday party for your other brother. What had the birthday
Speaker 2: party go?
Speaker 3: D They went it went really good? We uh, well,
Speaker 3: what of my friends? He decided to describe my brother
Speaker 3: and got him like a keg. I don't know if
Speaker 3: you know what a keg is.
Speaker 2: You don't know if I know what a keg is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I don't want to do bro, I don't.
Speaker 2: You're such a wholesome boy. I don't know if you
Speaker 2: know what a keg is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know what a keg is. You said that
Speaker 3: we got a ca and yeah, we we got a keg.
Speaker 3: We partied nice. One of my friends really drunk.
Speaker 2: Nice.
Speaker 3: Some one who actually got the keg ended up being
Speaker 3: the most drunk at the end of the night.
Speaker 2: Who who all was there? Who always at the party?
Speaker 3: Well, my brother, his kids, which is about five of
Speaker 3: them now. They just had another one in January, my
Speaker 3: sister and her two kids, my cousin who's like a
Speaker 3: brother to me because we grew up together, my other cousin,
Speaker 3: and then we had a whole bunch of friends come
Speaker 3: over in total, about twenty five ish people.
Speaker 2: Isaac, does anything, Does anything ever go wrong in your
Speaker 2: life or you? Because you seem like you're living like
Speaker 2: a really picturesque existence, and I'm wondering if that's a charade.
Speaker 3: No, no, man, I mean things obviously go wrong in
Speaker 3: everybody's lives. I mean, right now, I think right now
Speaker 3: I'm staying with my aunt because you know, housing prices
Speaker 3: are really bad. Yeah, so yeah, and I live in California,
Speaker 3: so you can imagine how expensive stuff is out here.
Speaker 2: What do you do for a living?
Speaker 3: So I work as a consultant for a special education company.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, you're like a mister Rogers guy.
Speaker 3: Uh not really, it kind of it's boring. I did.
Speaker 3: I used to like my other job for because I
Speaker 3: used to actually work with people directly, but I left
Speaker 3: it and now I'm here. I left it because they
Speaker 3: were paying more money.
Speaker 2: Here. Do you work directly with the kids or you
Speaker 2: can you tell other people how to do it?
Speaker 3: I basically tell people how to do it, like basically
Speaker 3: just formulate education plans. I still talk with them directly,
Speaker 3: but most of the time it's just making game time
Speaker 3: to them.
Speaker 2: Okay, but at the old job, you worked with the
Speaker 2: kids directly.
Speaker 3: With adults.
Speaker 2: Yeah, with adults. Well I thought it. I thought this
Speaker 2: was a uh this is special education for adults or
Speaker 2: for kids.
Speaker 3: Well it's special education now because the company that I'm
Speaker 3: working for, like it's mostly working with like i EPs
Speaker 3: and like in the school system.
Speaker 2: Now, I like, how you make this assumption that I
Speaker 2: know what an I E. P Is but that I
Speaker 2: might not know what a KEG is.
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, I e it's like an individual it's like
Speaker 3: an individual education plan. Okay, Yeah, basically it's required by
Speaker 3: the state and everything. And I just help out, help
Speaker 3: out wherever I can. And yeah, I mean in the
Speaker 3: past they used to work directly with people. To not anymore.
Speaker 3: I used to like that better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a people You're a people person. What do
Speaker 2: you say you sit on the computer all day?
Speaker 3: Well, the beautiful thing about this job is I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't have to do it all day. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: just work like three hours a day.
Speaker 2: What do you do with your time? What do you
Speaker 2: do when you're not working?
Speaker 3: I pitch has, I get to the gym, I go
Speaker 3: on walks all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I just you know, take it easy. It's
Speaker 3: kind of no why I missed. It's the interaction of
Speaker 3: talking with co workers and everything.
Speaker 2: What do you what's your dream, Isaac? What do you
Speaker 2: What do you want out of this life before you die?
Speaker 3: Huh? That's a good question. What do I want? Well? Hm,
Speaker 3: I guess I want to help my dad complete his vision, like,
Speaker 3: because he's building a house right now in Mexico and
Speaker 3: I eventually want to finish it for him. I guess,
Speaker 3: like have have fun so he can finish building it
Speaker 3: and then maybe they'll live out there myself.
Speaker 2: This is you said in Mexico or New Mexico, Mexico.
Speaker 2: So your dad's building a house over in Mexico. You
Speaker 2: want to go help and finish the house and then
Speaker 2: maybe you'll live there too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because he lives he lives. He lives like fifteen
Speaker 3: minutes from the border in San Diego. So he works
Speaker 3: in San Diego and lives in TJ and just commutes over.
Speaker 2: Oh he lives and TJ.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my dad lives in DJA.
Speaker 2: What's going on over there? Last time, I no offense
Speaker 2: to you know, Tijuana. But the last thing I heard
Speaker 2: about Tijuana is that there was like a crazy level
Speaker 2: four do not go there thing.
Speaker 3: It depends on where you go. And if you go
Speaker 3: just you know, go dick around, obviously it's gonna go
Speaker 3: bas for you. But we don't. We don't usually go
Speaker 3: do that. We usually just go just to go, you know.
Speaker 3: So hang out at the house, all right.
Speaker 2: Do I hear birds chirping around you?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I told you I'm at a park now, I.
Speaker 2: Know I know you're I know you're at a park,
Speaker 2: but for some reason, I just feel like there's always
Speaker 2: birds chirping around you wherever you go.
Speaker 3: That'd be funny.
Speaker 2: But do you speak any Spanish?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I'm fluent in Spanish. Oh no, actually one of
Speaker 3: the reasons. Yeah, I can read it right or speak it.
Speaker 2: That's cool. Do you know anyone in you? Are you?
Speaker 2: Are you married? You have a girlfriends?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: No, I got out of a long term relationship about
Speaker 3: a year ago.
Speaker 2: Okay, how's it been since you got out?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been. It's been good, you know, just trying
Speaker 3: to advance professionally, trying to get my own place again,
Speaker 3: and you know, just move forward.
Speaker 2: Are you going to try to find a wife in Tijuana?
Speaker 3: Hmmm? Probably not?
Speaker 2: Probably not on the apps?
Speaker 3: No, I really go on the apps. I prefer to
Speaker 3: meet people in person.
Speaker 2: Have you would you ever if you saw like somebody
Speaker 2: that that caught your fancy at the park, would you
Speaker 2: would you go over and start talking to them? Do
Speaker 2: you have that? You do? I'm sure you do.
Speaker 3: You sound look good, very okay? You know.
Speaker 2: Has it ever led to go ahead? Go ahead?
Speaker 3: People always say it's very cheesy to ask somebody or
Speaker 3: tell somebody how the weather is. But it's a really
Speaker 3: good conversation starter. And if people want to talk, Like,
Speaker 3: if people want to talk, they'll find a way to
Speaker 3: continue talking. If they don't want to talk, they'll find
Speaker 3: a way to shut it down.
Speaker 2: It's true, It's very true. What I'm very curious, Uh,
Speaker 2: what is the longest string you've gotten from beginning a
Speaker 2: conversation talking about the weather too, going deep enough that
Speaker 2: you're talking about you know, feelings and relationships and legitimate things.
Speaker 3: Longest string? What do you mean by that? Like the
Speaker 3: longest conversation that has stemmed?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like where where is the conversation? Where to give
Speaker 2: me somewhere that the conversation is stemmed. Give me an
Speaker 2: example of of a deeper conversation that you may have
Speaker 2: had that stemmed from asking about the weather.
Speaker 3: Oh, so one it wasn't. This one didn't stem from
Speaker 3: the weather. This one stemmed from playing chess because here
Speaker 3: at the park there's like these little tables, yeah, to
Speaker 3: have like the chess logos you know, talking about of course, Yeah,
Speaker 3: And I was I was playing chess randomly to somebody,
Speaker 3: and then somebody just came over and just said hey,
Speaker 3: can I play a games? And we ended up playing
Speaker 3: a game and we just ended up talking chess, and
Speaker 3: then we ended up talking about like their life, and yeah,
Speaker 3: we still we still talk every once in a while,
Speaker 3: like we exchanged numbers and everything, and I still see it.
Speaker 3: I'm walking around time of time, I say Hi, Hey,
Speaker 3: how you doing, How how's your son? How's your dog?
Speaker 3: You know, stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Have any of these park interactions turned into anything long
Speaker 2: term or meaningful? Not even romantically, but you friendship wise,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean no, not.
Speaker 3: Like any serious friends like that I've known growing up. Nah,
Speaker 3: just like I would call it like exterior just people
Speaker 3: that I know around, no little details about them here
Speaker 3: and there, but nothing like serious like oh come over
Speaker 3: like to my house and have a beer or two now,
Speaker 3: nothing like that.
Speaker 2: How old are you man?
Speaker 3: How old am I?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Twenty seven?
Speaker 2: Nice? I'm turning twenty seven at some point? Yeah, well
Speaker 2: are you excited to go? To go ahead?
Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you what do you like? Just
Speaker 3: to kind of change change topics, like what are your
Speaker 3: what are some of your hobby like outside of being
Speaker 3: a gag and streaming all the time. Yeah, he keeps
Speaker 3: saying that once in a while, how's that going?
Speaker 2: It is going actually very well for two months, and
Speaker 2: then I took a trip to Thailand and I did
Speaker 2: not go to the gym or eat correctly at all.
Speaker 2: There's a funny thing where, like, you know, your brain
Speaker 2: convinced yourself like, oh, you know, you're you're in a
Speaker 2: foreign country or you know, traveling, like you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: you don't have to stick to a strict diet. But
Speaker 2: like I was, I was in Thailand at seven eleven
Speaker 2: eating kit kats. You know what I mean. That's not like,
Speaker 2: that's not like, oh I got to sample the local
Speaker 2: cuisine while I'm here. You know, this is unreasonable. But anyway, hobbies,
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I go to the gym,
Speaker 2: but I don't know if that's a hobby so much.
Speaker 2: I like to walk around. I'm really into Fecitive, Super
Speaker 2: Smash Brothers, Melee, but unfortunately that that community only gets
Speaker 2: smaller every every year. I like video games. I'm playing
Speaker 2: my Switch all the time. Uh yeah, nothing crazy, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm made. Honestly, my biggest Most of my hobbies are
Speaker 2: like marinating and anxiety and traveling around and and doing
Speaker 2: doing this Gecko stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember I got a stat with Smash Bros.
Speaker 3: For a while. Remember when the when they came out
Speaker 3: with those little statue.
Speaker 2: Things, yeah, the ambos?
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember. I went like a
Speaker 3: little a little binge for like like three months where
Speaker 3: I bought like a whole bunch of them and I
Speaker 3: just got them up to like a max level that
Speaker 3: you could possibly get them up to.
Speaker 2: You went on an ambo binge?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: That's extremely funny. What's your prize to me?
Speaker 3: But it's a link?
Speaker 2: So you've exeled a guy?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I like I like not Zelda like the game,
Speaker 3: but in Smash Brows, I'm a big fan of using link.
Speaker 3: I haven't played it in years though, ever since my
Speaker 3: switch broke, I just didn't get another one.
Speaker 2: So all right, Zach, we're on a podcast right now,
Speaker 2: we're talking to some We're talking to at least one
Speaker 2: person who's listening to us. What do you want that
Speaker 2: one person who is listening to this conversation right now
Speaker 2: to know? What do you want? You have open ears,
Speaker 2: held hostage. Okay, what do you want to put in them? Oh?
Speaker 3: I guess something that's really enjoyed me because I listened
Speaker 3: to sports podcasts the Pat McAfee show all the time,
Speaker 3: and they always talk shit on F one. So if
Speaker 3: somebody can clip this and get this to him, it'd
Speaker 3: be perfect. I know you don't like I know he
Speaker 3: doesn't like F one, but I know he's a big
Speaker 3: motorcycle guy and he could get into Moto GP. Moto
Speaker 3: GP is amazing.
Speaker 2: I don't know the way the thing that you want
Speaker 2: to tell everyone listening to this podcast is to tell
Speaker 2: one guy that he should get into racing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they always get to me. I've been listening
Speaker 3: to Pat mcazee for like, all right, all right, and
Speaker 3: like he he like, they always talk about F one
Speaker 3: F one, F one F one is boring. But the
Speaker 3: way I don't like F one person.
Speaker 2: You know what, I respect that. I respect that. A
Speaker 2: lot of people they're like, oh, you know, go live
Speaker 2: your dream or you know, uh uh, be kind to
Speaker 2: one another. You know, they say a bunch of bullshit,
Speaker 2: but you're like, hey, this one specific sports pod cast
Speaker 2: or I want him specifically to know that he should
Speaker 2: get into F one. So I respect the specificness of
Speaker 2: your answer to that question. Anything else you want to say,
Speaker 2: Isaac it's been nice. This is a good chit chat
Speaker 2: sometimes this show it's about stuff, but also it's fun
Speaker 2: to to just chit chat, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I guess the one last thing I'll say
Speaker 3: is everybody just have a great day.
Speaker 2: Okay, you did it, you got one, you did one
Speaker 2: of those?
Speaker 3: Ye did? Everybody, just have a good day. And you know,
Speaker 3: if you twelve weeks, if you drink, okay, have a drink.
Speaker 2: There he is. Who's this guy? Where's this guy been?
Speaker 2: This whole call?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just trying to keep it cordial. All right, Well, yeah,
Speaker 3: I get Thanks for hope you hope you have a
Speaker 3: great day YouTube. And when are you coming back?
Speaker 2: When am I coming away?
Speaker 3: California? Southern California?
Speaker 2: Oh shit, I'm doing a show in Los Angeles in
Speaker 2: November at the Masonic Lodge.
Speaker 3: All right, cool, I'll keep an eye out for those chickens.
Speaker 2: Beautiful. See you there, man, Take care alright, great one.
Speaker 2: That's Isaac. That's Isaac.
Speaker 4: Can goes on the line taking your phone calls every night,
Speaker 4: goes to his h's teaching you loud your life.
Speaker 2: But he's not really an expert.