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Speaker 1: she probably I know Yanni's gonna want to do it

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Speaker 1: this way. Yanni's gonna want to start with introductions. He's

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Speaker 1: always worried about getting his credit. I think let's start

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Speaker 1: with Johnny. No, I've told you why I'm worried about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm worried about it really because your dad gets curiously. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he really liked He really appreciates that. That like thirty

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Speaker 1: likes that. Uh So for Jana sr um uh as

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Speaker 1: though dealing poker Brodie Henderson, it's a little more. You

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Speaker 1: can do a little more, Meat Eater Senior editor, that's

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Speaker 1: some talking, a little more, a little little headache this

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Speaker 1: morning by selling his house. I mean he's a great

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Speaker 1: fishing property. Dude, Pop want to talk. Yeah, he's got

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Speaker 1: red Fox in his yard. He can hunt elk basically

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Speaker 1: in his backyard. He can walk down the hill and

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Speaker 1: fish giant northerns and catch crayfish and trouse. What else?

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Speaker 1: How many how many way points does the property come with?

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Speaker 1: Like in surrounding public? Don't care how much you want

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Speaker 1: to pay for the place? I guess, Oh yeah, some

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Speaker 1: where it is south the steamboat springs off the grid, Yes,

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Speaker 1: but not like that contrus Bomber off the grid. It's

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Speaker 1: like there's an actual neighborhood with actual houses and you know,

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Speaker 1: so it's just the annoying parts of being off the grid. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: solar it's not bad. No, but for the people that

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Speaker 1: like want to like feel like they're living in the mountains,

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Speaker 1: but then have the you're in the mountains, yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I got wilderness area half a mile from

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Speaker 1: my house. Yeah, but you also have like a lot

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Speaker 1: of the conveniences that modern day people like to have around. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what what give me your Zillo ordeal? Everybody can look

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Speaker 1: up your estimate. Man, I don't know if I want. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's for sale, all right, don't tell I don't sell

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Speaker 1: your house, just look up. Founder Rich Pounder was trying

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Speaker 1: to sell his car on this program, and I think

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Speaker 1: he might have he got a good offer. Three one

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Speaker 1: four four zero sho show anyway, Stagecoach Colorado zero, Sam's Quentin,

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Speaker 1: She's gonna go by Brodie's house. You don't do it,

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, because you're like you're like, look,

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Speaker 1: it's like asking somebody how many acres they have and

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Speaker 1: how many cows they got on it. I learned that

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Speaker 1: was a major faux pa the other week. But you're

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Speaker 1: the one who started this conversation. Well, I know I

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Speaker 1: don't think that people would. I haven't looked up Brody's estimate.

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Speaker 1: That's it wants to add? Should we edit all this hour?

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Speaker 1: You think you want to keep it in there for

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Speaker 1: the selling? Keep it in there. I think you're you're

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Speaker 1: asking price is a little low. Oh that's a geez, Brody.

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Speaker 1: That is a really phenomenal deal. I mean that's a

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Speaker 1: buyer that's a buyer's market right there. You really Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because you just basically took over the broker's job. Well

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Speaker 1: that's all right, as long as it sells, she'll still

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Speaker 1: hog Farmer Kevin Harlanders, right, Kevin from First Light, Glad

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Speaker 1: to be here. Um, what's your hog business? Call? Is

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Speaker 1: their name? No Nameander Hogs? No, we don't really have

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Speaker 1: did four? We're going to do like thirty next year. Though,

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Speaker 1: I've been telling people you were just going incremental. Now

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Speaker 1: back there. It's gonna be doing next I think so, yeah,

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Speaker 1: bringing in partners. Oh yeah, we're getting serious. So then

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Speaker 1: Yeah I can, Yeah, we can do that. I guess

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Speaker 1: we should brand it. Probably. I like this kind of

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Speaker 1: very tasty hog. I've been really enjoying my half. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: been grinding, mind, I've been grinding my fat and whatnot

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Speaker 1: of fat off a pick called beans the pig and beans.

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Speaker 1: You guys got beans, beans the hog. So I did

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Speaker 1: got that many friends? Oh yeah, oh yeah, plenty of

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Speaker 1: the answer to it is um Are you you know

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Speaker 1: uh closed system pork? Are you how how cocky are

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Speaker 1: bear meat and rats, No, because they're they're been a

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Speaker 1: control of environment still, you know, they're pastures, but that

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Speaker 1: pastures clean for sure. And then they're getting that um

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Speaker 1: and and then uh a little bit of barley. And

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Speaker 1: same barley, but it's different. It's two roll barley, which

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Speaker 1: that's what they're making the beer. Um. And then there's

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Speaker 1: like different kinds of barley that's made for animal feed

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Speaker 1: deteriorate on barley. He said their tail would lose. Some

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Speaker 1: And this guy too would. He was telling me they

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Speaker 1: And you didn't want to make any gutting cuts on

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Speaker 1: they wanted their whole digestive system to flush. And then

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Speaker 1: I told his story thousand times. But his they would

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Speaker 1: Didn't you tell it? Didn't you tell the story all

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Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, every week, Um cut his thumb off

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Speaker 1: and his brother flicked it into the hogpen. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: so he'd come over and he'd do stuff. But you

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Speaker 1: When he died, somehow my brother like inherited cases of

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Speaker 1: bones you keep living on slim fasts. Maggie, Hello, Megan's

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Speaker 1: got a little mechanics suit on. I agree, I commented

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Speaker 1: so cute. Thank you? Anything else that doesn't take you

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Speaker 1: know what to say about it. I just like it. Uh.

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Speaker 1: How did you find that mechanics suit? Um? From made Well? Yea,

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Speaker 1: I bought it new. Yeah, it's made well and Dickies

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Speaker 1: did a collapse so that women can have good looking

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Speaker 1: It's great. Thank you. I like it to Did you

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Speaker 1: got it on Black Friday. I've been stocking. They had

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Speaker 1: Maggie Smith? Uh, they'd get holding and send you a

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Speaker 1: stack of those suits. My own team, please do made Well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: mag he's got a mechanic suit. Um, Phil, he just

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Speaker 1: he's you know, he's down here the switchboard. Wow, go on, Phil, Nothing.

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Speaker 1: I was just I thought you're commenting on my you

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Speaker 1: were disappointed by my shirt since it's not as you know,

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Speaker 1: Phillis looks like everybody else. No no zipping suits. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: lose you're hunting rights because like in the end you're

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00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 1: selling a trophy head fort. No, it's pure back bragging rights. Yeah,

422
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 1: but you'd think words would have gotten out by now

423
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: that that's how you're going to get caught, you know,

424
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: like like that's just comes yeah anyway, again, the types

425
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 1: of people that we're talking about here, Yeah, no, I know.

426
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,199
Speaker 1: But so how do you resolve that situation? Somebody who

427
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: has a track record like that, who continues to have

428
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: the same thing happened over and over and over again,

429
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: how do you resolve that? I would say, punish him harder,

430
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: because you know, a lot of these these people just

431
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 1: aren't getting the book thrown out right. I'd send him

432
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: out to Harlander Hoggs slop and slop some some hogs

433
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:40,679
Speaker 1: stables for a while, work every time. Yeah, I got it.

434
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: I was at a game warden conference one time and

435
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: I was talking to a warden who was there to

436
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 1: present on He was there to present on a theory

437
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: he had about what he was calling like super violators

438
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: where he feels that scent of poaching UM is being

439
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 1: done by ten percent of poachers. And he had a

440
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 1: he had this he was presenting this kind of like

441
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 1: composite view of this composite view of UM, the most

442
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: rampant poachers and they're there, you know, obviously like it's

443
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: like white males, I can't remember the age bracket, kind

444
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 1: of like what their worldview is, what their political view is.

445
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 1: And he feels and he was talking about that there's

446
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: sociopathy and sociopathy and people who are like particularly sociopathic

447
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: UM it manifests in certain ways. And he was saying

448
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 1: with the super poachers that they don't brag about it.

449
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: These are guys where you catch them and then you

450
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: go to their house and they have like a pole

451
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: barn that has you know, eight dear acts laying in

452
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: in disarray, and it's this kind of like in the

453
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: way he described I'm just like, they're sticking it to

454
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: the They're they're sticking it to the man, They're sticking

455
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: it to society. These are things that people value. I

456
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: have all them. And I'm sure there's a part of

457
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 1: it that's especially with an instance like that where they're

458
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: doing it in a repeated manner and not getting caught.

459
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: That's got to play into the obsession in some way. Yeah,

460
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: that he was saying that. His argument was that if

461
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 1: you really to be really impactful on poaching, it would

462
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 1: be working hard to identify these and he talked He

463
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: talked about like these areas where you have the same

464
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: way you hear like people figuring out there's a serial killer,

465
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: where you have these clusters of crimes that seems similar,

466
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: and then at some point someone will look and be like,

467
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: why are there six unsolved murders kind of around particular

468
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: train station over the course of ten years, and they're

469
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 1: all have a thing. And so what he was working

470
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: I was looking at these places where there is like

471
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 1: this area where for twenty years there's like headless deer

472
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: and ditches, you know, and then and then realizing that

473
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: thing starts to make sense. The heads are all cut

474
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: off the same way. Right, It's typically happening around whatever

475
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: circumstances and that, and like I said, he was there,

476
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: he was presenting this whole deals interesting, really interesting. Uh,

477
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. My other thing has to do with

478
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: the guy cutting his finger off and then keeping it

479
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: in the jar a room. Could I save that now?

480
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: Kind of just told it didn't. The guy rode in

481
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: and his body they're messing around the airplanes landing gear

482
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: and his and his finger come off. How he just

483
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: got caught off by the landing gear. Um, and he

484
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: keeps it in rum and now and then people come over,

485
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: they'll get the drinking and they'll like to have a

486
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:52,120
Speaker 1: little shot of rum out of that jar. Do they

487
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: know that they're having or? He says sometimes they're unsuspecting. Um.

488
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: Did he say which anger? Uh? No, he just says

489
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: a finger says there's a violent mishap with airplane landing gear.

490
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 1: He wanted to get it reattached. They couldn't do it.

491
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,959
Speaker 1: He says. The moral of the story is, Um, if

492
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: you lose your finger, hang onto it. They made great

493
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: conversation starters. Makes a nice cocktail. Cocktail, Okay, okay, I'm

494
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: talking so people. A lot of times, people right in

495
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: they want hot hunting tips, the hottes hunting tips to

496
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: work here, right because you guys all got a job here,

497
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: and everybody's that's what everybody comments on social media. It's

498
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: already a demand and the larger army eat our community.

499
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: You guys got your first gear, and didn't Maggie, Maggie,

500
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: you and Tracy got your first year the same night.

501
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: I think so, which I think is still ironic considering

502
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: we went on our first turkey hunt together and then

503
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: what day? So I want to go and order who

504
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: got their dear first? Sam, did you get yours first? No?

505
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: I got my? No? Third? Yeah, because I got mine

506
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: the tuesday after they got theirs. I think that Maggie

507
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: got hers earlier in the day. She did. Yeah, that's correct,

508
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: because we had already gotten the photo of Maggie's and

509
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: Steve's response was, will let me send back a picture

510
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: of yours? Don't want? Did not like the idea of that.

511
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: Perhaps the thought could be that we were on success.

512
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: I didn't even know Joe was doing this. Joe was

513
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: more excited about sharing the he was just sending it

514
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 1: to everybody. I talked with Joe about this last night

515
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: and he um, he expressed it that he was wondering,

516
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: what was you know, like when someone's not shooting. Yes,

517
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: he kept he was like he's telling the story. Was

518
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: kind of like where he was wondering, like, what's the

519
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,479
Speaker 1: what exactly is the problem? You want me to go

520
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: into that? Yeah? I mean first retouched, we talked about

521
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: the turkey, but it gives people a quick crash course

522
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: and you're like, how you became interested in getting a deer? Um, well,

523
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: obviously not getting a turkey. And then I was on

524
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: the podcast with you guys like a recap and you're

525
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: kind of gave me a little bit of yeah. Um,

526
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: but no, Joe approached me and asked if I had

527
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: an interests and I did have interest I mean why not?

528
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: And uh so I decided to go. I don't know,

529
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: there's not really a backstory too. Kind of talking about

530
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,959
Speaker 1: Joe Frigno Joe Ferronado, do you feel that he wanted

531
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: to take you because he had filled his tag and

532
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: wasn't done hunting yet maybe No. No, did his fiance

533
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: get a deer? Yes, she had filled her So Joe

534
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,479
Speaker 1: was like he just he's like, I gotta find someone.

535
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: I need a warm I need a warm body of

536
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: the deer tag. No, Joe was actually out there hunting too.

537
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: We're going to stay another night, he was, yeah, yeah,

538
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: he was still honey, but we'd ended up not saying

539
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 1: another night. The conditions were just horrible, horrible out there.

540
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: Oh you know what, it's cured, Kevin. Did you did

541
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: your Yeah? You had a first time hunter this year? Yeah,

542
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: I did. Yep. My girlfriend Cilia killed her first buck

543
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: with the bows. Yeah, first animal ever. Wow, that's pretty awesome.

544
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: So why isn't she here? Yeah a man, Yeah, I

545
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: don't even think about that. And that was shed brought

546
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: her on. But yeah, she she had a great hunt too.

547
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: That was fun. We did that back in eastern Oregon.

548
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: She practiced for well over a year with a bow

549
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: an arrow, and uh got it done on the like

550
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: the final hour. Got it done on the final final hour,

551
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: the eleventh hour. Nice. You you kind of hunted your

552
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: ass off this year, Yeah, a little bit. I took

553
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: some time, for sure. We we got actually, let's see

554
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: we got three elk in our office. I think two

555
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: big horns. Yeah, we got two big horns dot doll

556
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: sheet what else. Yeah, we had a good year in

557
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: the office for sure. But yeah, I got some time

558
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: out there. We just got off a white tail tour

559
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: um with a few folks, which is pretty cool. Yeah,

560
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: two dudes that work at first like drew big horn

561
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: tags sitting next to each other, no less in the

562
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: look at that, and they're hunting like pretty sitting next

563
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: to each other. That really puts into perspective for me. Yeah. Yeah,

564
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: we never hear the end of it. Yeah, these guys

565
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: haven't either, and they both filled them to which is

566
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: pretty The hunt that Paul and Nate both went on

567
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: was incredibly different. That's not like a gimme. It's in

568
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: the frank Church and it was the real deal. So yeah,

569
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: that's pretty exciting. And then Bridget at first like dolls.

570
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: She shot a doll sheep up in the Northwest Territories

571
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: and uh, we're still rolling ross Are our VP of

572
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: sales and Marketing has a elk tag still to fill

573
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 1: with a muzzloader. So we're going out Sunday. Yeah, Yeah,

574
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: it's gonna be difficult. Though we had a lot of

575
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: snow that was as elk are still pretty high. So

576
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: you guys do any work over there? Ever, No, try

577
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: not to, try not to. Yeah, weeah, we had a

578
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: good year, so there's a lot of a lot of

579
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,760
Speaker 1: success in office for sure. Did um does your girlfriend

580
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: like eating that deer? Yeah? Yeah, we caught it in

581
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: with the with the Harlander hog. Yeah, we actually did um.

582
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: A friend of ours made this stuff called land Yeager.

583
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: You never heard of that. It's like a pressed sausage,

584
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,919
Speaker 1: but they sang land Hunter. Yeah. Yeah, so I guess

585
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: it's like this old German um sort of processed sausage

586
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 1: that they pressed and then smoke and eat it like jerky.

587
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: That's really good. And we did that with something there. Yeah.

588
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: I don't imagine you've ever heard of Yeager moister? Have

589
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: I've heard a bit? I'm not a fan. That means

590
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: hunt master. It does which they made it should have

591
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: made it taste, you know, No, like yeagers just meant

592
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: for kids to drink. But when you're drink it, you

593
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: don't feel like you're drinking the kids drink. No, it's gross.

594
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 1: I don't think growing up drink yeager. Oh definitely, I

595
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: have been at the Murray and placed that in Livingston

596
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: where people at like three pm, grown adults are ordering

597
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: yeager shot like for kids. No, absolutely not. It's like

598
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: when you want to hit it hard, feel that bird

599
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: that goes down when we want to hit it hard.

600
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: Like if you went to the bar and you felt

601
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: like you had to catch up with everybody because they

602
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: were already kind of wasted. Yeah, we'd order a long

603
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: island ice teams. Hold on a minute, I'll be more

604
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: fun about five seconds. Okay, Maggie said, there you were.

605
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 1: You were shamed turkey young. Yes, and you got to

606
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: invite from Joe Ferronado. He's been on he's has had

607
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: a little quick cameos here. Yeah, and I was excited

608
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: to go out with Joe and his fiance. It was

609
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: fun to have a woman out there with me. Why why,

610
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: who cares? I don't know. Just like the conversation. She

611
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: made me comfortable. It was just like you guys take

612
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: about different stuff than what we talk about. Yeah, totally.

613
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: I think she wouldn't be like, so you got a

614
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: mechanic suit? Yeah? Yeah, yeah. I think Joe kind of

615
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: zoned out half the time because her and I are

616
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: just and then he'd be like, I'm trying to sneak

617
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: up on this deer. Yeah no, but we spotted the

618
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: deer at like nine thirty in the morning, and by

619
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: eleven thirty he was on the ground. So in the morning, yeah,

620
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: we'll tell me. I didn't a little more. Now I

621
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: feel like we should teach Maggie how to um tell

622
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: a story. I'm trying to take a I mean not

623
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: that I like how you're doing it, but I'm trying

624
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: to think out how, like what would have that conversations

625
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: you got her? I was, did you got him? I did? Wait,

626
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: we're getting way, Okay, go ahead, you pursue your line

627
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: of questioning. I just want it was you know, your

628
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: first time doing that. I told Joe like from the

629
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: very beginning, like, I think there's a lot of things

630
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: you can't control going into hunt. I've learned that from

631
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: the Turkey situation, but from your experience and then my

632
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: personal experience, and there's little you can control. But communication

633
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: was one thing that Joe was like, this is something

634
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: that we can't control and have dialed and that made

635
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 1: me feel very comfortable. We were like, I don't know,

636
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,919
Speaker 1: like we talked a lot about like my feelings going

637
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: into it and like wanting to be an ethical with

638
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: how I went about things. And I don't know, it

639
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: was just very open dialogue and that made me feel

640
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: very comfortable going into the situation. I think that's a

641
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: really interesting and good point. And also I think you

642
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,840
Speaker 1: guys had good dialogue at every step, every step turning

643
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: around and being like are you comfortable right now? Is

644
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: this okay? Like you know? And I was like, yeah,

645
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: it sounds a little different than use the word communication.

646
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: Not necessarily now I'm using that word, but like, can

647
00:37:55,280 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: you talk about your communication? Don't listen, let's say, let's

648
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: sell was getting myself into time, But to me that

649
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: was important. I don't know how that opened dialect. I

650
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: don't know. Joe. Joe wasn't like you guys are camped out, Yeah,

651
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: and when you went up to to find what were

652
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 1: you doing when you when you found the deer? What

653
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: was I doing? What do you mean? How did I

654
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: react when I go ahead? Like when you first spotted Yeah,

655
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: like what was going on? Like you guys just walking

656
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: and someone look at that. We were just walking And

657
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: Joe has showing me how to not like when you

658
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: come up to like a little like crest in a ridge.

659
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: How you don't want to like silhouette yourself. And he

660
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 1: was like, Joe just went up a couple of notches

661
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: in my book. Yeah, he was demonstrating that. And as

662
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 1: he was demonstrating it, he was like, oh my god,

663
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: there's a big buck right there. And then it was

664
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: perfect and were block management National forest blm um. We

665
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: did a little bit of block management, but then we

666
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: got we were in the breaks. So then him yeah, okay,

667
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: so go on. Um. So then he spotted him and

668
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 1: started tracking way off, yeah, tracking him? Well, like, how

669
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: how far off? How far away yards from us? Can

670
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: you tracked him? Whiting just because you know where he is?

671
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: Why do you have to track them, like get in

672
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: a better position? I don't know. Was he following a lady?

673
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: He was following the lady he was with. He was

674
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: moving there crazy, but you weren't tracking them. The term

675
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 1: is stalking him. Okay, excuse me, I'm mostly if you.

676
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: If I learned that you guys spotted one and then

677
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 1: it got away and then you tracked it down, that's

678
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: interesting to me. Well, yes, so then we started a

679
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 1: stock We ended up spooking them somehow they took off

680
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: and just ran and then we ended up tracking them

681
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: because Joe could see him bed down, way way, way

682
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 1: off in the distance. That's not tracking. But then we

683
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: stopped him again. Okay, what is tracking? Tracking would be

684
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 1: that you are um. Tracking would be that you are

685
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: looking for signs on the ground with prints whatever, palmarks

686
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: in the snow. But when you see them, you're stocking. Yeah, yeah,

687
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: you wouldn't be. You could be like attracted with my eyes,

688
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: but no one would say that. Okay, well then we

689
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: saw him bed down and then we so he spooked

690
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,280
Speaker 1: and went in bed down like a million miles away.

691
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: What was your goal as far as the range you

692
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: wanted to get into? Um? We practiced UM at two

693
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 1: hundred yards, but I was like, if we could be closer, Yeah,

694
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: I would like to be closer. And you practice shooting

695
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: off of off your pack or practice sitting over your knee. Yeah,

696
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: you did a lot of that, Yeah, but that was

697
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: not how the shot went down ended up being prone.

698
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: So that was but you were prepared to take a

699
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: two yards shot off your knee probably, I mean we

700
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: had practiced that, but this is the second time I

701
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: had held a rifle so I was a little nervous

702
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 1: about that, as like we need to be closer. I

703
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: can lay down, I'd feel better about that position. Do

704
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: you like Joe or jan It's better. Wait, let's put

705
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: that on the board. You don't have to answer that.

706
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:16,919
Speaker 1: Just two totally different situations. So it beds way down

707
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: and then you guys started creeping in on what we

708
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: saw a little forky and Joe goes, do you want

709
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: that little guy? And I was like no, You at

710
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: that point was like this is for me. This would

711
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: be a big deer. And I was like, well then

712
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: I want Yeah. So so then what happened? You guys?

713
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: How long to take to creep in on it? Like

714
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: maybe forty minutes to creep in? And then he was

715
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: bedded down and he was doing one of those like

716
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 1: he's so tired sleeping things where he was like sleeping

717
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 1: in and he jerk away out. Yeah. It was warm

718
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 1: out and then it was really windy where we were,

719
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: but he's kind of in this little like, yeah, I

720
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: got out of the wind, bedded down. He was sleeping.

721
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 1: He was sleeping so hard. Joe was like he's huge.

722
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: Joe's like seven are almost six seven? Yeah? I would

723
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: stay around there, yeah, and he would just he was

724
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: just like so impatient. So he's like moving around, like

725
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 1: standing up, sitting, and he's like, I just want to

726
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: get in a better spot. And the deer did not care.

727
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: It was aware of you. I don't think so, but

728
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: like could see us, I mean, and if he was awake,

729
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: I mean I could totally have seen. Yeah, But Joe

730
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: was just like so impatient moving around, and I was like,

731
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: You're gonna spook him or something. I was like nervous

732
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: about that. Did Joe maybe wanted to stand up? No,

733
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 1: he was trying to get in a better position for

734
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: me to see. And we kept creeping in. We got

735
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: into eighty four yards, so we got in really really close. Um,

736
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 1: and then I moved and the deer stood up. Joe

737
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: was like, you spooked him. I could do whatever I

738
00:42:51,560 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: wanted to. I wouldn't say it looked like that, ye know, yeah,

739
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 1: And then he stood up and Joe was like, this

740
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: is this is it, It's gonna happen. And he stood

741
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 1: up and I looked at each other through the scope

742
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: and Joe leaned in. It was like, if you're going

743
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: to shoot, shoot now the shooting time, Yes, so you

744
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: were like, actually, like you dialed up your scope and

745
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: then it had a little eye contact with you walk

746
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: through the scope. That was like a very like reckoning moment.

747
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: Do you purposely do that? And it just happened that

748
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: your scope landed and you're pointing out his head and

749
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: now I knew where he was when he was sleeping,

750
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: you know. So like when he stood up, I was

751
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: felt very prepared as opposed like turkey hunting, where it

752
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: was such a surprise. I felt like it was like

753
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: not like the turkey doesn't bed down and then stand up,

754
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: Like this was a very different scenario. I got to

755
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: get very comfortable and feel very comfortable. So yeah, it's

756
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: nice when you get time. Yeah, we had like and

757
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 1: I think we sat on him for like an hour

758
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: maybe a little longer while he was sleeping. Yes, then

759
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: what happened? Um, then we walked over. Did he just

760
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 1: keel over? Yeah? He went down immediately. You got a

761
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: good hit on him, yes, And Joe said the shot

762
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: could have been more perfect, So nice work. Where did

763
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: you hit it right through the lungs? Okay? And it

764
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: didn't go anywhere? M he just went right down. He

765
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: broke his nose. Hit the grounds, heart, broke his nose

766
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 1: dead or the Dornell when you got out there? What

767
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: is that? Why do people say that? Why did you

768
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 1: just say it? Where did it come from? I don't know? Why?

769
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: Is it Dorne also dead? Well, then we're just personifying

770
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: door nails. That's you. I guys know what a what

771
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 1: an automotopia is? Yes? Yes, um okay. So it went

772
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: down and Joe's all excited, and I was just like,

773
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, was weird. It was a totally different

774
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: than my reaction to Sneaky Pete. Granted I didn't get

775
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: Sneaky Pete, but I thought it was going to be

776
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: more of that, like adrenaline release and emotion, and it

777
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: was actually more like a just a void of emotion. Really,

778
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: you didn't you didn't feel emotional. No, I didn't cry.

779
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: I just felt very like an out of body. It

780
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: almost like a little bit of experience walking up. I

781
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: just didn't that's right. You said that you were like

782
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 1: watching yourself. Yeah, that's what it felt like. It was

783
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: just a very weird experience. I thought it was going

784
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: to be more rolls out of your body, yes, and

785
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: looked down at myself. Yeah, what did you see what

786
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: do you mean, dear me? Yeah? No, but walking up,

787
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: I was almost like I didn't know how to like

788
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: react either, but my my instinct was like, I feel

789
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: weird saying this, but I like petted him like a dog. Like.

790
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,720
Speaker 1: I went like right down behind the years and pet

791
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: him and Joe, Joe has this really awesome photo. I

792
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 1: didn't know. He took it in my hands on my heart.

793
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: I'm like petting him and I thanked him and that

794
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: was a very powerful moment for me. I didn't end

795
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: up crying until I processed the meat that I was

796
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: at SESS. They did this whole like meat processing party,

797
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: which I was so grateful for to like at this.

798
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,319
Speaker 1: I didn't tell anything a big party. Well, they did

799
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: have a right invited. There was a lot of people there,

800
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: whiskey bo big party, like a good time. From the

801
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: pictures I saw it was a good time Instagram, you

802
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: know I must have been having a big party from

803
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: my friends at night, must have been where I was.

804
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know a big party for all my good friends.

805
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 1: Joe and Joe and Saith told me they were going

806
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: to help me process my dear and I showed up.

807
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 1: There's pizza. There was Beard, there was like three other

808
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: deer there. Rick Smith was there, Ye, Rick Smith was there.

809
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 1: It was I don't know about this. Yeah, it was good.

810
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,240
Speaker 1: I wasn't invited though. No one told me about Sorry, Steve.

811
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: Yeah it was good. It wasn't my house kind of

812
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: so you got emotional then, yeah, like what I like,

813
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: bald really like we like brought the meat out. It

814
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: was all package and put it in my car. Joe

815
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: drove away and I just sat there and cried, Yeah,

816
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: what were you what were you feeling? Like? What was

817
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: what emotions were you're processing? I was finally I think

818
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: processing the emotion because that was like finally I went

819
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: full circle, right. It was like the realization of like

820
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,959
Speaker 1: I was very grateful, like tears of someone Joe too,

821
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: like he is now meat and my f and that

822
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: was like the emotion of taking a life. It was

823
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: the actually saw him as food, which was it's you know,

824
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: I'm happy about that too. But that was the I

825
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: don't know I had time up to that point. Yeah,

826
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: maybe and maybe these other women can share this too,

827
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: Like I was so worried going into it because of

828
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: the way Sneaky Pete went down about just like getting

829
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: a shot. I was like, I want to like do

830
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 1: this right. I was like kept telling Joe, I want

831
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 1: this to be the turkey that Maggie at hunted for

832
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: four days. Yeah, and uh, I got very close but

833
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: did not kid. But I was like I wanted to

834
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: be clean, quick, and safe. And I was so worried

835
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: about getting those three things done that I totally forgot

836
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,439
Speaker 1: about what happens afterwards, Like I didn't even like I knew,

837
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: like I was gonna have to process and gut and

838
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 1: all this. And I was like minute though, like that

839
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 1: shot was done and he was on the ground. I

840
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: had my moment. I was like I'm so overwhelmed, Like

841
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: what do I do now? And I was like so

842
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: grateful for Joe being there obviously through the shot, but

843
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 1: more so afterwards because I was like I would have

844
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: been just at complete loss of what to do. Yes,

845
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: I did, I told you. I was like I want

846
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,439
Speaker 1: to do all of this, like help me. I want

847
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: to I want to cut the butthole. I want to

848
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: get in there into the vitals and have the blood

849
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: rush over me. Like yeah, I was very bloody. They

850
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: call me bloody muddy march um. Does your boyfriend like

851
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: eating the deer meat he does. He did not like

852
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: the heart. I told him. I told him I was

853
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: going to cook that and surprise him and just make

854
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: him like eat it like a random time. And that

855
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 1: bothered him. No. I mean, he's gotten shotguns, but he's

856
00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: not gonna hunt yet, is he? Um? Is he enough

857
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,879
Speaker 1: of a man where he doesn't feel emasculated by his uh? Oh?

858
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: I like to remind him. I'm like, I'm the provider.

859
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,919
Speaker 1: You see the freezer, and he's like, yeah, right, great,

860
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: yeah he is. He's not all jealous to be a

861
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,280
Speaker 1: passive aggressive No, No, that's not in ed Bows nature.

862
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 1: He had a great way of describing the heart. Yeah,

863
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: he said it was like octopus, like the spring. The

864
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: spring is just the density. He's like, it's ten. But

865
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 1: it's just weird to eat red meat when it has

866
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: that like denseness to it and it doesn't have the

867
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: texture what you're used to reading the grain is not Yes,

868
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: it's like there almost grainless. Yeah, And so I think

869
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: that for him was just like it's weird, you know

870
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 1: the grains like is if you look at paper through

871
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: a magnifying glass, where it's just like a weave yeah,

872
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: that's like yeah, it's like yeah, I mean I actually

873
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:28,439
Speaker 1: got to eat. What was cool was like I got

874
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: to use the videos that I shot and edited with

875
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 1: Danielle in my heart and I was like, wow, this

876
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: is so informative. That's great. Did you did you make

877
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: any realizations about your work? It was great. I was like, they,

878
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: so go check it out. Tell people what videos you

879
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: found most useful. Um. I did how to clean a

880
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: heart one on one with you and Danielle, and then

881
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,359
Speaker 1: I made her heart bulgogi recipe fire meat and Edbo

882
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: didn't like it. He loved the veggies and he was like,

883
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: you know, I'd like the flavor. I just need to

884
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: get used to that. And it was it was the

885
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: first second thing I fed him from the deer. So

886
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 1: did you guys, Um, did you guys do the liver? No?

887
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: I did not do the liver. Joe and I had

888
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: a lot of discussion about this about like when is

889
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: like taking enough meat out like ethical dilemma, right, He's

890
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: like when have you taken enough? And like debating that

891
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: and it was just weird. He was a big deer,

892
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 1: like it was a lot and we did not take

893
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: the liver. It was very muddy and nasty. What did

894
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: you end up doing with the hide? Because you said

895
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: you kept that right? Yep, you packed out the hide

896
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: you get turned into buck skin. Yeah, like a buckskin

897
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: mechanics suit. I should I should I shouldn't save up

898
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,439
Speaker 1: a few hides. Yeah, my dad kept saying a bunch

899
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 1: of deer hides and his like business coat was made

900
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: off of his own deer hides. Really, but it was

901
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 1: like real seven. He's had like the lower pocket in

902
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: the big belt and that you wouldn't wear it ye.

903
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: Jana says, it's like working with a seventies superstar of

904
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:14,439
Speaker 1: stairs to a nice What do you do with your hide?

905
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 1: I just w wanted to throw for the back of

906
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:18,919
Speaker 1: the couch. You want a hair on, yeah, I wanted

907
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: hair on against They never work out because the hair

908
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 1: is brittle and it comes get it made in the

909
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 1: box because out looks just doesn't. They don't take any abuse.

910
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: You know, I had that bare rug on my couch.

911
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: You'd use like a blanket that's twenty years old. If

912
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: you had a deer hide with the hair on and

913
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 1: you look at it, funny, the hair comes out because

914
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 1: they got like a hair, not a fur. Hollow hair

915
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: and they people do it, they do it and like

916
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 1: nothing looks better for like, it's kind of like tattoos, right,

917
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: nothing looks better in a brand new tattooing looks more

918
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,919
Speaker 1: is an old one. It's like it just doesn't work out.

919
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 1: It just doesn't work out. I don't have any tattoos,

920
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: Steve so so that one doesn't bring um. It just

921
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: doesn't work. If you get buckskin, it's like the rest

922
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: of your life. Man, you could do something with it.

923
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 1: Whenever Jane did advise me on that you get gloves,

924
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,479
Speaker 1: you can get awesome gloves made from buckskin. That would

925
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:25,959
Speaker 1: be you can make some great things while calling change. Yeah,

926
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: don't don't get the hair on. Okay, you can die

927
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: the buckskin. So you could do black black gloves with

928
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 1: your dear. Cool. Okay, you make probably a couple of

929
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,479
Speaker 1: pairs out of your dear. I'm gonna start packing mine

930
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: next year, and that's gonna I'm making the business coat

931
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: all the time. I'm dude. You know that, dude, you

932
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: might do a collar of hair. There you go. You

933
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: know Tim what Tim Wells? Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I

934
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: was talking to him. He had a real nice jacket

935
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 1: that was from his own hides. Yeah, remember that. Alright.

936
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: So then seconds later Tracy got a deer. Well it

937
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: wasn't or do we talk about that about that? The

938
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: deer different? You know what, We're way out of order.

939
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: I try to interrupt earlier, but guys sometimes difficult to

940
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: around here. That's a good I had thought that I'm

941
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 1: gonna leave it up to It's gonna be like chef's choice.

942
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,759
Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about a combo of the two?

943
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: Combo of the two? Because I think they were both

944
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: very unique in different ways. Okay, go ahead, Um okay,

945
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 1: who do you like better? It is not about better,

946
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: it's different. It's different that I would I would totally

947
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: agree that it's just different. It's different. That's I don't

948
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,919
Speaker 1: need to make this about me. Um so wrong. Horn

949
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: hunt which was very cool. That was I guess technically

950
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: my first big game hunt. We hunted in Wyoming the

951
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: end of September. Yeah. Um, interestingly enough, I felt like,

952
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 1: I mean, we had had a good amount of practice,

953
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: so I was starting to feel comfortable shooting, which was

954
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: like hugely important. Like we practiced two pretty extensive times

955
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 1: leading up to the hunt, which kind of gave me

956
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: a good sense of confidence. Especially coming out of the

957
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: Turkey hunt. I was a little bit um. I felt

958
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: a little insecure about my shooting capabilities. Um, given the

959
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:37,280
Speaker 1: fact that I had taken that one shot that didn't

960
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:41,280
Speaker 1: work out so perfectly. Very different kinds of shooting though, Okay,

961
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: that's fair, but without much experience, they didn't feel different

962
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: in my mind right, Like, I just felt like I

963
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 1: was still in a situation with a gun with the

964
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: intention of of taking a life, and I wanted to

965
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: be able to do so effectively, lethally, smoothly and without

966
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 1: um any sort of negative outcome, like that was the intent.

967
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: So it didn't feel different, even though yes, now I

968
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 1: understand that they are different shooting um, and I feel

969
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 1: like are The Pronghorn hunt was nice because similar it

970
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 1: sounds like to Maggie, like we had time. We got

971
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 1: set up in a situation where we were able to

972
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 1: for like twenty or twenty five minutes stock to antelope.

973
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: It was a buck and a dough um pretty much. Yeah,

974
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: and your antelope was totally unaware of your being there,

975
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: completely unaware, completely unaware. They've betted down for a little while,

976
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 1: and so we were able to like and this is

977
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: where I kind of resonated with your communication comment, because

978
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: throughout this entire experience, I was like asking you like

979
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: five million questions, Well, what happens if this happens? What

980
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: happens if this happens? Like I felt, we had a

981
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: lot of time to kind of work through a lot

982
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: of scenarios. I tend to be a little type a

983
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: controlling and so I like to play out all the

984
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 1: different potential outcomes and know what I'm going to do

985
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: with every single potential outcome, and that makes me feel

986
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: more empowered and comfortable. An example of what you might

987
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: have asked you honest about um, like okay, Like one

988
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,760
Speaker 1: of the challenges we had was there was a pivot.

989
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: So we were hunting in a corn field and there

990
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: was a pivot, and the two antelope kind of continued

991
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: to come in and out of the plane of pivot.

992
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,959
Speaker 1: Just saw everybody listen, knows exactly what we're doing. Sure,

993
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: So it's um farmland, and so it's how they irrigate.

994
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: So it's like a big irrigation water pivot with huge tires,

995
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: and so the antelope were kind of in front and

996
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: back and forth around the pivot, and so I was

997
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: very apprehensive about getting set up at a place where

998
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:37,920
Speaker 1: I felt comfortable being able to take the shot where

999
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: the tire wasn't exactly behind me. And then when they

1000
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: went on the other side of the pivot there were

1001
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: there was kind of a drop off, so then obviously

1002
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: the horizon was behind it. That's what you mean by

1003
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: dropping horizon, like not taking the shot because you can't

1004
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 1: see enough directly behind it. When you're flying in an

1005
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: airplane and you look down and you see a square

1006
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 1: of ground with a circle in the square, and the

1007
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: of the circle touched the four flat sides of the square,

1008
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:08,880
Speaker 1: you're looking down at the center pivot. Okay, let's telling people,

1009
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: oh cool around. Yeah, but I don't think that was

1010
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: the center pivot, was it. Those are long pivots. I

1011
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: don't think there's a lot of They'll sometimes make a

1012
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: pivot that only cuts forty five degrees. You think those

1013
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 1: are center pivots? Uh, you're saying that instead the whole

1014
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 1: pivot like movies like good She's blowing me out of

1015
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: the water on egg here, probably wheel line, right, Okay,

1016
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: I'll back out. You don't see a lot of center

1017
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: pivots in Montana. Possibly Wyoming since we were in Wyoming's

1018
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 1: it's more of those line what do you call them lines? Well,

1019
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: we always called them wheel lines, but wheel lines because

1020
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 1: the old versions look like wheels are lower, like a

1021
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 1: wagon wheel four feet tall. Edited out all the stuff

1022
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: that makes me look like I don't know what I'm

1023
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: talking about. That for me to do that, for me

1024
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: to make me sound good, putting me saying something from

1025
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 1: another time. And then I saw the farmer come out

1026
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: and cut that corn. Okay, So the pivot you use

1027
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: the word pivot, I use the word pivot. It was

1028
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 1: a pivot, but it's still called a pivot, I believe. Anyways,

1029
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: I'm not an agriculture export by any mean. Yeah, big

1030
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: gass tires the horizon. And so I was asking a

1031
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 1: lot of questions specifically relating to that. In addition to

1032
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: the fact that I was comfortable enough, we were able

1033
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 1: to set up in prone position, which was my desired position.

1034
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: Like I really we had been on a couple of

1035
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: antelope the day before, but it was a seated position.

1036
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 1: I really wasn't as comfortable shooting sitting up like I

1037
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 1: still need to work out my shooting and setting up

1038
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 1: UM was a major difference in my accuracy between being

1039
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:05,439
Speaker 1: improne and being seated, so we were able to lie

1040
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 1: down and the other thing that was still kind of

1041
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: a struggle, which also was a struggle a little bit

1042
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: on my dear hunt with you, Steve is I still

1043
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: haven't mastered being able to like quickly and efficiently get

1044
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: set up on my gun with like total perfect vision

1045
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: in my scope. Same like it's like it takes me

1046
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: a good amount of time to feel comfortable in my

1047
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: scope where I'm like, Okay, now I have a lay

1048
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: of the land. Now I feel like I directly have

1049
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 1: you know, the view that I need to have, and

1050
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm comfortable in it. I can't just like hop right

1051
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: on and get it. Yeah, that's the thing we point

1052
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: out to people ahead. No, I was gonna say that

1053
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: you guys all have been I don't know, Kylie, maybe

1054
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 1: not so much. I think you, Maggie and Sam and

1055
01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: Tracy have been on very accelerated sort of hunting programs

1056
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 1: here with us. And then I've said it before you

1057
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 1: guys all got done with these successful haunts, I'm like,

1058
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: now you got to go back and go hunt squirrels

1059
01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 1: and rabbits for a couple of years, because that's where

1060
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 1: you get that practice of doing that, not shooting one

1061
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: anemop one deer. How to define stuff. We're are talking like, oh,

1062
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: when you're going to hunt, man, I was like super

1063
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 1: important breaking your boots or whatever, get in good shape

1064
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 1: for hill climbing. But new hunters a lot of stuff

1065
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: gives them the slip because they can't find it in

1066
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 1: the scope. I can totally relate to that. I can

1067
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: relate to them. It's I think you wind up it

1068
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: does it? It's not true when you're when you have

1069
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: it resting on a backpack. But just like free handing,

1070
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: I think one of the things that makes it easy

1071
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: is I'm looking at it and I bring the scope

1072
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:37,919
Speaker 1: to my eye down. I don't like lose I don't

1073
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 1: really think of myself as losing sight of it. So

1074
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: you're moving your scope instead of moving your eye. And like,

1075
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: if I'm just like looking at something, I want to

1076
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 1: look at my skullpe I want to look at it

1077
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: right the day we did a quick little bit of

1078
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: squirrel hunting, and so you're just kind of like free

1079
01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: handing and it's like I don't I don't put it

1080
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: up and then look through the scupe and then go

1081
01:01:56,920 --> 01:02:00,040
Speaker 1: searching for the thing. It's like my eyes on it

1082
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 1: and the scope just comes to it and there it is.

1083
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: I think I'm conforming the scope to where I'm already

1084
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: know I'm looking. Okay, I'm not. Any good thing people

1085
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 1: do is a they know it's out there, then they

1086
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: get where they're looking through the scope, and then they

1087
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 1: start this whole search process rather than being like, I

1088
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 1: know my eye needs to be doing like this, like

1089
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: this is where it is. Line that thing up to it.

1090
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 1: But but you know that doesn't But that's not how

1091
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 1: you're doing it. Like when you gotta laying on your backpack,

1092
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: you are your your eyes going to the scope, not

1093
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 1: the scope going to your eye. We were on a bipod,

1094
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:38,240
Speaker 1: which was also awesome and like super stable and really

1095
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: clean set up. So that was like it was a

1096
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 1: strong level of the stand that clicks to here. It

1097
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 1: was great. I kept it in my pocket like it

1098
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: was easy to put on. Like that actually ended up

1099
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 1: being a huge asset for that hunt, especially since when

1100
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 1: we finally got set up, we were like on this

1101
01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 1: little like noll and we had like literally a clean,

1102
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 1: a clean look directly at the antelope. The other thing.

1103
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:01,919
Speaker 1: I think it's interesting too. And this was different than

1104
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:04,960
Speaker 1: the turkey hunt. Um, something that was always on my

1105
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: mind was if you were in a scenario where there's

1106
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: multiple animals, ensuring that you are finding the correct animal

1107
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 1: was something that was anxiety producing for me. A little

1108
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,120
Speaker 1: less so on the prong horn because it was just

1109
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: two and it was very clear, you know who the

1110
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 1: buck was and which one was the dough less so

1111
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 1: I had more of that challenge when we went deer

1112
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 1: hunting together Steve, because there were there were a lot,

1113
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 1: there were more deer, and it was hard for me

1114
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 1: to like actually find the buck in that group. Yeah,

1115
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 1: that was like a should have been here yesterday, but

1116
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 1: we were there yesterday. What do you mean do you

1117
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 1: mean just deer running? Oh? Yeah, like just going insane

1118
01:03:56,080 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: on that hunt. And and and obviously Jimmy was super

1119
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 1: excited about it. And Steve said to me afterwards, I

1120
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: really wish that maybe I hadn't brought him because he

1121
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 1: shouldn't see, Honey, situations where there's this many deer and

1122
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: that you don't have to work as hard as you

1123
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: need to work. He didn't like this. On the way out,

1124
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 1: he starts like trying to hit Tracy up for a

1125
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:26,920
Speaker 1: permission a youth season. That's well, that deer was down

1126
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 1: to ground about five seconds he was angling in on

1127
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 1: so h next youth season. It hysteric, moly, that apple

1128
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 1: is not falling far h so so how far away

1129
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:49,640
Speaker 1: was the animal? Just I think a little shy of three? Really, wow, Tracy, seriously,

1130
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't lie about it. Yeah, but you know, we

1131
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 1: had been in the field together practicing, you know, pro position. Um.

1132
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 1: I think just like a couple of days earlier, we

1133
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 1: had been at my house and I think the going

1134
01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 1: on my house is that like to twenty and we

1135
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: had done when we were all doing some practicing together. Um,

1136
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 1: I had shot one time at three hundred and hit

1137
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,800
Speaker 1: the gong. So I felt like I had clearly had

1138
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 1: the ability to do it. And the fact that we

1139
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 1: had been set up for like what was it, probably

1140
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 1: thirty minutes or so. I felt comfortable. I was able

1141
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 1: to take a lot of deep breaths, I was able

1142
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 1: to relax into the you double along to him. Yeah,

1143
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 1: it wasn't bad. It was bad. I mean he didn't

1144
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 1: even make it to the other side of the time.

1145
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 1: I was like, no, no, like you'd seen, you'd almost

1146
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 1: like not just only visualized, but actually been through physically,

1147
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 1: like like the scope itself. Right, we had zero and

1148
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 1: you had hit the gong with the first hash mark

1149
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 1: at my house first try a couple of days earlier,

1150
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 1: and then using the next hash mark down, which we

1151
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 1: knew was three hundred. It's like, there's really no difference.

1152
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:00,439
Speaker 1: You're just gonna use that second hash mark down dead

1153
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 1: center and you felt comfortable. No, my surprise wasn't that

1154
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,880
Speaker 1: you shouldn't have. It's just like, having seen the spot,

1155
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 1: I didn't realize it was that far away. Oh, I say, right,

1156
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 1: not shocked that Tracy was able to do that, not

1157
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 1: at all. And also you're you're not impulsive, the opposite

1158
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 1: of impulsive when it comes to shooting. I don't mean,

1159
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: I'm not saying in life, I don't know, but when

1160
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 1: it comes to shooting, you're not like that kind of

1161
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 1: like just let's get the lead flying And no that's

1162
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 1: not really No, I'm not comfortable with that. And I

1163
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 1: even have experience with you that my um my pace

1164
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 1: at times can create some frustration on your like for example,

1165
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:52,640
Speaker 1: when I was um when we were hunting deer together

1166
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 1: I'm set up. I didn't feel like perfectly comfortable in

1167
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,800
Speaker 1: that situation because I was sitting up. I was trying

1168
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 1: to get in a place mood. Okay, yeah, set the

1169
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 1: mood laid out. Tracy has a like a little horse property,

1170
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:14,040
Speaker 1: has some horses and then has some friendly relations with

1171
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 1: her neighbors and it's a little bit of a patchwork

1172
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 1: of landownership. And we just left her house and went

1173
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 1: on a little stroll in the neighbor's place, and it

1174
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: was like unbelievable. Yeah, it was like the night. Well

1175
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 1: it was the date um Saturday, novemb just like the night.

1176
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 1: But I don't think it was just the night though, Steve.

1177
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 1: I mean I had been sending you pictures like leading

1178
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 1: up to it, because that one piece of property like

1179
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 1: obviously doesn't get really any pressure, and the deer are

1180
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 1: there in high volumes all the time, but it's not

1181
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 1: there's that and it wasn't just but it was the behavior.

1182
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 1: There was a lot of them, but there's a lot

1183
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 1: of them. It was the behavior is those books were

1184
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,920
Speaker 1: just yeah, like you think they were leaving, but then

1185
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 1: you realized they're not. They're just like going over to

1186
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 1: like check something and coming back and singing and like,

1187
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:15,920
Speaker 1: here's what I don't you know about? Yeah, just like

1188
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 1: and no sort of concerted movement in any direction and

1189
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 1: just like zig zag and crossing and tongues hanging out. Yeah,

1190
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,840
Speaker 1: it's just like we just kind of waded into it,

1191
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:27,360
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I was like, you can't.

1192
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 1: I still don't know how many little little box like thinkers,

1193
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 1: but just bunches of them. Yeah, yeah, there were a

1194
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 1: lot of them. Couldn't keep them straight totally because the

1195
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 1: first kind of deer that we tried to get set

1196
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 1: up on, we then spooked a little bit, and then

1197
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 1: we moved in a little bit, immediately found another book.

1198
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: Had to move in a little bit more to kind

1199
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 1: of get some grass out of the way to be

1200
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 1: able to like actually sit and have a clear shot.

1201
01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 1: And I got all three of my kids true, which

1202
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,680
Speaker 1: added incremental pressure because from the moment they showed up,

1203
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 1: Jimmy was like, you're gonna break You're gonna break our record. Right,

1204
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 1: You're gonna brek our record of how quickly we shoot

1205
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: a deer. Right, I am the wrong girl. There's a

1206
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:11,280
Speaker 1: record in the Ronella household. He and I last year

1207
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,040
Speaker 1: this didn't happen. It was this year. So last year

1208
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 1: around Thanksgiving, UM, like yeah, so we're hunting white tails

1209
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:25,679
Speaker 1: and we went out and we're hunting on an open

1210
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 1: access area like a black management area. And we went

1211
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 1: and there's a fence, there's like a safety zone and

1212
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:33,679
Speaker 1: there's public hunting on the other side of the fence.

1213
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 1: And we basically got to the fence and sat down

1214
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 1: or like back to the fence and had hot chocolate

1215
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 1: with us and everything. It's two in the afternoon and

1216
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 1: I like rattle, like a twenty second rattle session and

1217
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 1: I know, sooner than putting him down. And he's like,

1218
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 1: here's the buck, and I'm and I keep always laugh ABox.

1219
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 1: I was kind of like thinking, like, shut up, kid,

1220
01:09:56,120 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 1: I'm trying to hunt. You know enough, here's a book

1221
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 1: running at us. You know. We hadn't even done, Like

1222
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:06,640
Speaker 1: I said, we talked about the hot chocolate yet. I

1223
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:08,680
Speaker 1: mean it was over and we were done hunting in

1224
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 1: three minutes. So that was in his mind that that's

1225
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 1: how you do a deer hunt, so high standards, high expectations.

1226
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 1: I was like, let's change your perspective. That's not going

1227
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 1: to happen. But not only do I have obviously the

1228
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 1: pressure of you know, Steve, because there is pressure. When

1229
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 1: I was Steve, I was held back. I was back

1230
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:33,519
Speaker 1: with my daughter, my little boy. Okay, you were up

1231
01:10:33,520 --> 01:10:35,600
Speaker 1: with my older boy. I understand that, but I'm just

1232
01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 1: saying that he was. He was impatient, absolutely, but like

1233
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:47,680
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, I want to like succeed. There's high expectations,

1234
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 1: like I'm still very new and novice at this. And

1235
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,479
Speaker 1: then you add that all three kids are like come on,

1236
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:57,760
Speaker 1: get it, like that was like quadruple. But you were

1237
01:10:57,800 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 1: you were hunting with the flip flop flusher. Thank God

1238
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 1: for the flop flusher. Once again, this is um the

1239
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 1: second time the flip flop flusher has come through for me. UM.

1240
01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 1: And he was real relaxed and and was not putting

1241
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,600
Speaker 1: pressure on and was helping me get set up and

1242
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 1: get comfortable and not taking the shot. Um if I

1243
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 1: wasn't comfortable, But so I took my first shot. At

1244
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 1: one point I didn't have to crawl forward. Oh my gosh,

1245
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 1: my kids like a crawl forward because I'm talking to

1246
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 1: what's the problem. He didn't say it like that story. Yes,

1247
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 1: So it's like I'm like on my daughter's like what

1248
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 1: is she doing? Was just insane six year old like

1249
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 1: so and literally I'm like adjusting my gun and then

1250
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 1: I hear what's the problem. And I'm like in my

1251
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 1: right ear, like behind, what's the problem? Was taking so long?

1252
01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 1: I literally looked back. I'm like, I'm getting comfortable and

1253
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 1: set up. That's what's taking and you're inter go back,

1254
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 1: go back to your seat. But and then my first shot,

1255
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:13,840
Speaker 1: I just still have such that moment leading up to

1256
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 1: pulling the trigger is such a overwhelmingly emotional feeling leading

1257
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 1: up to It's like the anticipation. It's like, Okay, he's

1258
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 1: clear in my in my scope, this is this is

1259
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:29,600
Speaker 1: the right time to take the shot. But the anticipation

1260
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:31,600
Speaker 1: of my mind going, what's going to happen? Is it

1261
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 1: going to be a good enough shot? What's the feeling

1262
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:36,880
Speaker 1: going to feel? Like the like angst of like not

1263
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 1: knowing is still something that like really like take takes

1264
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 1: over for me. My brother talks about that, um he

1265
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:53,799
Speaker 1: thinks that that feeling, that question is what throws him

1266
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 1: when he throws an archery shot. Oh, intersting, It's like

1267
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 1: the wanting to know what will happen? Yea and the

1268
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:09,640
Speaker 1: question about what will happen is is what that's what

1269
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 1: gets in his head and messes up his system. I

1270
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 1: can I there's no negative. You'll suffare right exactly exactly

1271
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:21,639
Speaker 1: like I don't want a negative to happen. I don't

1272
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 1: want a negative to happen. I don't want a negative

1273
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:27,559
Speaker 1: to happen. Yes, negative As a result, I think of

1274
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 1: like thinking that your entire body must like tense up

1275
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 1: a little bit, because obviously there's such a connection between

1276
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 1: mind and physical body that I feel like when you're

1277
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 1: tense like that and you take your shot, I feel

1278
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 1: like those were the moments practicing where I'd like throw

1279
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 1: to the right or something because I would feel like

1280
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 1: worked up about like what was going to happen and

1281
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 1: was I going to make a good shot, And then

1282
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 1: you'd end up throwing it a little bit. Don't you

1283
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 1: think that speaks to like the confidence that you're feeling

1284
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:52,800
Speaker 1: in that moment and like should you not take that

1285
01:13:52,840 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 1: shot there? Because like I like, there's definitely those times

1286
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:58,640
Speaker 1: where it's like I set up for a shot and

1287
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 1: I thought that then when I actually killed my dear,

1288
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:04,960
Speaker 1: I did not have any of those feelings, Like none

1289
01:14:04,960 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 1: of that went through my brain. It seems like the

1290
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 1: best shooters are the people that go from A to

1291
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 1: B to C without getting too far ahead of the line.

1292
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 1: You know. They're like compartmentalizing. I do this, I do this,

1293
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 1: and when you throw in D in front of B. Yeah,

1294
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yes, that's a very good

1295
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 1: way of thinking about it. I try to come up

1296
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 1: with for archery. I try to come up with ah

1297
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,639
Speaker 1: mantra is not the right word. It's like a series

1298
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 1: of steps, sort of like yeah at that point, yeah,

1299
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,280
Speaker 1: and I still and and Mark Kenyon talks a little

1300
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:39,560
Speaker 1: bit about this too, like he's got a little thingy repeats,

1301
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: but then you just forget to repeat it. Yeah. Well

1302
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 1: then you just in front of you and everything goes black.

1303
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 1: Yeah oh yeah, here's the part right anchor here. As

1304
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:53,640
Speaker 1: it's coming, I'm like, oh yeah, I'm gonna do my

1305
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 1: little deal. Yeah, I'm gonna do that deal like nice

1306
01:14:56,320 --> 01:14:58,720
Speaker 1: and slow. And then all of a sudden you put

1307
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 1: your ball bag and just like don't do the D. No.

1308
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:03,920
Speaker 1: But there are shooters that can do the deal, and

1309
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:08,919
Speaker 1: they're the ones that kill giants. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd

1310
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 1: like to get better at that because that that I

1311
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 1: feel like, in of itself is like a reason why

1312
01:15:14,439 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 1: I still feel like nervous and a little bit intimidated.

1313
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:21,799
Speaker 1: So you touch one off and what happens? It freaking

1314
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 1: didn't go anywhere like my first shot. I was like,

1315
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:27,719
Speaker 1: you know, after you take your shot, you're like, what happened?

1316
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 1: What happened? What's like? So that's like you didn't touch

1317
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 1: anything that's deadly shit, I don't know what happened. And

1318
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:48,680
Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, because I was like he

1319
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 1: wasn't that far off? How far was he? I can't

1320
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 1: remember it or something. Yeah, it's not something. I didn't

1321
01:15:57,160 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable distance not. I think it was like that

1322
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 1: shot was very close after you had crawled up, and

1323
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:11,839
Speaker 1: I was like, you can say that. I was starting

1324
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:13,680
Speaker 1: to get a little dark. I was like starting to

1325
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:16,519
Speaker 1: play through too much in my crazy head. You know.

1326
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 1: I thought maybe something had happened and someone's wrong with you.

1327
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 1: Were you rattled afterwards after that one shot? So I

1328
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 1: wasn't rattled, but I was like, Okay, something is a

1329
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 1: little amiss here. I need to like re center and

1330
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 1: regroup and like get my stuff together before taking this

1331
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 1: next year because I didn't move. The deer did not

1332
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 1: move like he like looked up. He was like, no,

1333
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:44,879
Speaker 1: I said, they were just so I was like, okay,

1334
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 1: well now I have the same situation. Let me re

1335
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:51,599
Speaker 1: calibrate everything and get organized and try again. Yeah, I've

1336
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:53,759
Speaker 1: had it where you missed and then on that second

1337
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,200
Speaker 1: shot you're like, okay, now I know what I need

1338
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, yeah, that's an interesting point totally like

1339
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 1: you kind of get focus. The client said this I'll

1340
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,679
Speaker 1: never forget because he I think, had like two years

1341
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 1: in a row, killed on a second shot after within

1342
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 1: the first one, and when he would retell the story,

1343
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 1: he don't. It would like to remind everybody at the

1344
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 1: table that you know, like any hunter, good average hunter

1345
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 1: can kill on the first shot, but it really takes

1346
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 1: a great hunter compose yourself after a miss and then

1347
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:30,960
Speaker 1: make a great second shot. I don't know. But then

1348
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 1: so my second shot I hit him and he went

1349
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:37,040
Speaker 1: right down. The other element that I find I really

1350
01:17:37,040 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 1: struggle with two and this happened with my antelope. Punt

1351
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:43,320
Speaker 1: is I have not mastered like staying in my scope

1352
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 1: after the shot to be able to keep a close

1353
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:49,679
Speaker 1: look at what actually has happened. Like my antelope unt

1354
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:52,839
Speaker 1: I saw, I couldn't tell if it was the bucker

1355
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 1: the dough that was still in my scope and I

1356
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 1: had to look up and it was the honest who

1357
01:17:56,800 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 1: was like, great shot, He's down. And same with the deer.

1358
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, where where is he? What happened? Like? I

1359
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:05,559
Speaker 1: feel like I have not like masterds staying in my

1360
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 1: scope and being able to fully evaluate kind of the

1361
01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 1: on those light recoil rifles, Um, you have six five

1362
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 1: creed more On those light leak recoil rifles. Uh, they

1363
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:24,080
Speaker 1: tend to kind of settle right back in. The reason

1364
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 1: I depending on your body posture, they might jump right

1365
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:28,680
Speaker 1: or left, but if you're like square to them, they

1366
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 1: tend to settle back in. But so few people I

1367
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:34,760
Speaker 1: don't do it. I I have followed through because I

1368
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 1: just know I could like shoot fairly accurately, but I

1369
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:39,120
Speaker 1: lift my head up to see what's going on because

1370
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 1: I want to see what's going on. It's kind of human,

1371
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 1: but like like really like technical shooters stay in it right,

1372
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:48,679
Speaker 1: and they like they like it. Like like real technical

1373
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 1: shooters sort of a mark of of their shooting skill

1374
01:18:52,439 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 1: and process and positioning is that that thing settles right

1375
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:57,760
Speaker 1: back where it was like that you should be like

1376
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:00,679
Speaker 1: the recoil wayam it drops back down and you're looking

1377
01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:03,679
Speaker 1: at it totally Like I would love to be able

1378
01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 1: to find tune that because I feel like if I

1379
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 1: were ever in a situation which I feel like is

1380
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 1: a common situation where you're not able to get a

1381
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 1: shot that is you know, clean and lethal, or you

1382
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 1: know that that that the animal drops to be able

1383
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 1: to be in a situation where you're calm and organized

1384
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:23,160
Speaker 1: and collected and exactly where the animal is be able

1385
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 1: to take a second shot, like that's something that you know,

1386
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 1: I've thought a lot about and I'm not sure I

1387
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 1: would be capable of shooting magnum rifles off the backpacks

1388
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 1: and you know, bushes and cactuses and whatnot. It just doesn't.

1389
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:39,640
Speaker 1: I just lit my head up. I want to know

1390
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 1: what's going on because something as you need to know

1391
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 1: what's going on totally. But I had a great buddy

1392
01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 1: that James and Nash told me when I had a

1393
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:48,040
Speaker 1: flinch or when something like that, when I pop up,

1394
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:50,000
Speaker 1: he said, you gotta go shoot five hundred grounds for

1395
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 1: twenty two and just get comfortable with like a small

1396
01:19:53,479 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 1: caliber rifle and then your body sort of mechanically exactly

1397
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:01,519
Speaker 1: interesting to go shoot ground scrolls or something, you know,

1398
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:03,839
Speaker 1: our targets with the twenty two and there's no impact

1399
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 1: your shoulder at all. Yeah, military shooters, man, it's all

1400
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 1: through the scroll. They just looked there. That's where they're looking,

1401
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 1: and ask where they stay looking. The other thing I

1402
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 1: learned to where I realized was, um, the at least

1403
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 1: for me, the importance of having done some practice in

1404
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 1: a close time period to actually going out, because I

1405
01:20:24,080 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 1: remember reflecting and thinking about the difference of like on

1406
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 1: the antelope on we had had a couple of practice days.

1407
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, it's it's recent. My capability within

1408
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 1: this realm is recent. And we didn't practice before we

1409
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 1: went out because it wasn't like it was that much

1410
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:41,000
Speaker 1: time period. But I definitely felt like I was worried

1411
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 1: about being rusty. So like the importance of practice of

1412
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 1: like just getting that comfort level and like quieting your

1413
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 1: mind I think is hugely beneficial. So I know what happened.

1414
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 1: You shot again? Well, yeah, the second shot I hit,

1415
01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 1: I hit the deer. The deer went down, and so

1416
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 1: then you came running up with the kids and said, Okay,

1417
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 1: we gotta go. We've got to you know, we've got

1418
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 1: to get over there to make sure everything is okay

1419
01:21:06,439 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 1: to look at. You know, we don't know what the

1420
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:12,599
Speaker 1: current state of the deer is, which wasn't really something

1421
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:15,680
Speaker 1: that I had been thinking about. So on that conversation

1422
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:18,759
Speaker 1: that walk over I definitely started to become a little

1423
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 1: bit worked out, because I was pretty excited to get

1424
01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 1: over there. Oh man, well I had seen some I

1425
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 1: had seen some reasonably we should probably get over there.

1426
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 1: You never told me that. Well, I told you get

1427
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 1: over there. What did you see? I'm curious what did

1428
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:38,919
Speaker 1: you see that made you feel as though that perhaps

1429
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 1: the deer was not dead? Just the I mean, it's

1430
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:46,439
Speaker 1: like very tell just very tell tale, the way like

1431
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 1: it hits and then what it does after down, like

1432
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 1: any sort of um, any sort of like actual concerted

1433
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:59,719
Speaker 1: effort to get something, like any kind of like logical movement,

1434
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,680
Speaker 1: like with turkeys, right, like turkeys hume they just flop,

1435
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 1: But all of a sudden you realize that the turkey

1436
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 1: is kind of like very definitely flopping away from you.

1437
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 1: Like that's not good. That's like, that's not him flopping.

1438
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 1: That's things going wrong, you know, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

1439
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I just saw, like I felt something. Yeah,

1440
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,440
Speaker 1: I mean I saw, I mean yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

1441
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 1: So we scooted. It was immediately mortally wounded correct um.

1442
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:33,679
Speaker 1: And so that was a whole another kind of first

1443
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:38,679
Speaker 1: time experience, UM in the sense of we got over

1444
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:43,879
Speaker 1: there and the deer was not dead, um, and that

1445
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 1: that that is something that's very hard for me. That

1446
01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 1: was like I had a moment where I was like,

1447
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:50,599
Speaker 1: I don't want to do this, I like talk about

1448
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:52,719
Speaker 1: kids immediately, sir, we're trying to make you feel better.

1449
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. That's sweet, totally very sweet. Yeah.

1450
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 1: I don't know why they were not upset, but I

1451
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 1: remember which ones were like, oh, don't worry. Both both

1452
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 1: both Rosie and Jimmy were like that. I mean, Jimmy

1453
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 1: was way more like that. That boy is so sensitive

1454
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 1: and so reflective and so endearing and like so connected.

1455
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 1: He's just so sophisticated for his age, and he, like

1456
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 1: I think, could read my feelings and emotions and inevitably,

1457
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 1: like gut instinctually is like wanting to make me feel

1458
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:38,040
Speaker 1: better and to like to help help help me understand

1459
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:42,360
Speaker 1: that this is a common situation. But um, I definitely

1460
01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 1: had an immediate reaction of like, no, I don't want

1461
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:45,560
Speaker 1: to do it. I can't do it. I can't do it,

1462
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:47,559
Speaker 1: can't do it, can't do it. I remember we had

1463
01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 1: to tell you have to. We can't, we can't leave it.

1464
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:51,839
Speaker 1: Do it. Yes, I was, but that was my immediate

1465
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 1: gut reaction was like I can't because you begin to

1466
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:58,679
Speaker 1: like humanize the situation, You begin to humanize. I don't

1467
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 1: know how to not do this. You see this magnificent

1468
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 1: animal lying there, and you immediately start thinking about is

1469
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:08,679
Speaker 1: this animal suffering? What have I done to this animal?

1470
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,640
Speaker 1: Now you're up close to it. It's still alive. It

1471
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 1: clearly had paralyzed it to some degree, and you make

1472
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 1: it like a human interaction experience that now you have

1473
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:21,000
Speaker 1: to be intimately connected with it to take its life.

1474
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 1: Something in that vein, That something within that vein was

1475
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:27,680
Speaker 1: kind of the experience that I was feeling close enough

1476
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 1: distance at that point where it becomes very very real,

1477
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:34,560
Speaker 1: very real, and you just you put yourself in that situation,

1478
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 1: and I don't know, you just think about all these

1479
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 1: various aspects of it and Seth had to shoot it again.

1480
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 1: Seth had me shoot it again. So instead of Steve

1481
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:44,680
Speaker 1: telling me where to shoot it, because that was not

1482
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 1: um the most productive, Seth was like, just do this

1483
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 1: and I was like okay, and then um, I shot

1484
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:59,639
Speaker 1: him again while he was laying laying there. It's very

1485
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:05,599
Speaker 1: wrong experience that part. Yeah, did your boyfriend like eating deer? Um?

1486
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:09,559
Speaker 1: He freaking loves it? Are you kidding? He's He's so envious,

1487
01:25:09,640 --> 01:25:11,759
Speaker 1: I think in so many ways. And he would probably

1488
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 1: tell you this if you asked him this question. So

1489
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 1: not only is the envious of the fact that I've

1490
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 1: had this magnificent opportunity to learn from like the very

1491
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 1: best within this space, but he's envious that I've like

1492
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:27,120
Speaker 1: pushed myself outside my comfort zone and that I've learned

1493
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 1: a new skill set and that I've challenged myself. Like

1494
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 1: he loves those types of experiences in life, and like

1495
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 1: fundamentally he loves especially I think the hunt that we

1496
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 1: did kind of near our home, Like he loves that

1497
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 1: land so much, um, and we spend so much time

1498
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:46,040
Speaker 1: there that the beauty of like being able to connect

1499
01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 1: with an animal that has spent time living on that

1500
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:52,559
Speaker 1: land and now us being fortunate enough to be able

1501
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:57,000
Speaker 1: to harvest that animal and not only eating ourselves, but

1502
01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:59,520
Speaker 1: we shared a little bit of it with our neighbors

1503
01:25:59,600 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 1: and and just like they loved it, and and and

1504
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 1: my neighbor especially um uh. The wife is not like

1505
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:12,679
Speaker 1: typically a big medicine fan historically, and she was raving

1506
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 1: about how delicious it was and she made some for

1507
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 1: her grandkids and just that's something that is like just

1508
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 1: magnificently special. So will um do you guys, do you

1509
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 1: still call me boyfriend? You call mer fiance? I mean whatever,

1510
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:32,599
Speaker 1: it's all wanted the same or you gotta ring? Yeah,

1511
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:39,559
Speaker 1: I realize that. Yeah, um um, the guy you're getting

1512
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:43,120
Speaker 1: married to, does he will he initiate? Will he like

1513
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 1: come home let's say you're gone or whatever? Would he

1514
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 1: come home? Like th awesome out? Absolutely? So he's in there.

1515
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, totally. He said to me like today he

1516
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:53,639
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna take some meat now I think

1517
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 1: I'm going to do this with it. I want to

1518
01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 1: make some chili this weekend. Oh he's super into it. Yeah,

1519
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 1: he loves He'll go dig around the freezer of what

1520
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 1: everything says? Well, and it was we haven't ground up though, No,

1521
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 1: we need to do that because I'd love to have

1522
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:10,600
Speaker 1: some ground. But he was very grateful to have the

1523
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 1: experience with you guys in terms of like being a

1524
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:15,479
Speaker 1: part of you know, butchering and being a part of

1525
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 1: that whole process versus me coming home and telling him

1526
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 1: about it. He enjoyed that a lot. You got to

1527
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 1: grind your ground up though, Yeah, I gotta do that too.

1528
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:26,600
Speaker 1: We get a grind. It's so fast, I run do

1529
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:29,840
Speaker 1: we grind it. We got a grinder that does like

1530
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:31,559
Speaker 1: it's like six pounds a minute, no joke, I mean

1531
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 1: just grind and then to fill the bags, I put

1532
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:39,320
Speaker 1: in a sausage stuffer and we put in those polly bags.

1533
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:42,360
Speaker 1: It's just like the ice of dread. We used to

1534
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:44,760
Speaker 1: have a hand crank grinder and just like, you know,

1535
01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:47,720
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I got a grind to me now.

1536
01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:50,719
Speaker 1: I just like it takes longer to clean and grinder

1537
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:54,320
Speaker 1: than the grind. Yeah, you know, clean Like the cleanup

1538
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 1: is more arduous than the actual process. It's more like

1539
01:27:57,040 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 1: it's like a thing where you got to have some

1540
01:27:58,479 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 1: stuff you have to clean up with what it feels,

1541
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:02,280
Speaker 1: it's very fast. We just do it, and then we

1542
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 1: got the Harlander hog and Beans the pig. I still

1543
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 1: got a little bit of No, I don't have any

1544
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 1: more Beans the pig. What was I don't know, Beans

1545
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 1: the pig. That's just a whole story. Wait is this

1546
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 1: the Colorado one? Yeah, I'll tell you. I had a moment.

1547
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:21,080
Speaker 1: We're getting ready, were the guy that raised a pig,

1548
01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 1: and um, we had some camera guys with us, and

1549
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 1: we're getting ready to kill the pig. And I said,

1550
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 1: you know, don't film killing the pig because we had

1551
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 1: to be present for the killing of a farm hog.

1552
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:36,960
Speaker 1: And then I said to him, in fact, set those

1553
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:39,639
Speaker 1: cameras down on the ground. Oh man, that was good

1554
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:43,599
Speaker 1: that I did that. That's good. Yeah, that's good. Killing

1555
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 1: fim animals it's not a easy thing. They're resilient. It's

1556
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:51,599
Speaker 1: just I guess i've ever seen one. They just don't

1557
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:55,719
Speaker 1: have any chances of getting away. Yeah, well he Bean's

1558
01:28:55,720 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 1: almost got away. Till um. Good nice job Tracy Samson

1559
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:09,880
Speaker 1: with Ocale, it was that was our second hunt. Actually,

1560
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:11,840
Speaker 1: how did it come? How did it come about? The

1561
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 1: U and Okale? It became like hunting partners. I think

1562
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 1: I just I don't even remember Honestly, I think what

1563
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 1: happened was like I approached him and it was just

1564
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 1: like I need a better understanding of like what these

1565
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:25,519
Speaker 1: guys are doing. Like I'm sending these guys out, you know,

1566
01:29:25,800 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 1: you all out on these meter hunts, and I'm helping

1567
01:29:29,080 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 1: with the preparations and everything. And I was like, I

1568
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:33,439
Speaker 1: just I just want to know. I want to know.

1569
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:35,400
Speaker 1: And also I kind of have this goal for myself

1570
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 1: like every year I want to learn something new we'll

1571
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 1: be can provide another example last year was mountain biking,

1572
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:44,639
Speaker 1: learning something new. Is that what you mean? Yeah? So

1573
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 1: in this year was hunting also just like shooting a

1574
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:49,720
Speaker 1: gun in general. You got your eyeball on next year,

1575
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 1: what is it like what I want to do for

1576
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 1: next year? Um? I think I want to learn how

1577
01:29:55,120 --> 01:30:00,519
Speaker 1: to go like hot waterfowl because man duck or taste. Yeah,

1578
01:30:01,560 --> 01:30:03,840
Speaker 1: dang right, Okay, So so he was you got okay

1579
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 1: go on, Yeah, and I wanted to learn just to

1580
01:30:06,240 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 1: understand it because of works exactly fit into your personal

1581
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 1: plan totally. Yeah. And then I also just I have

1582
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 1: this whole like life goal of just kind of like

1583
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 1: reducing my waist and ideally like providing things more for

1584
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:21,000
Speaker 1: myself and like, you know, just not having to go

1585
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 1: with the grocery store as much for meat and whatever.

1586
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:25,000
Speaker 1: So that's been a plan too, So it was kind

1587
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:28,320
Speaker 1: of a natural progression. But then it just kind of happened.

1588
01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 1: Like Cal was like okay, or like Yanni showed up.

1589
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 1: He's like, here's a gun, and I was like, okay,

1590
01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 1: we're going out this weekend. And I was like what, okay, fine.

1591
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't even know how to pack

1592
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:47,200
Speaker 1: for this type of staff showed up here, Yes, what

1593
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 1: is this for? Like it was like the bullet comes

1594
01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:56,639
Speaker 1: out this end. Good look. But like I turned to Maggie.

1595
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 1: Maggie let me all of her first light gear because

1596
01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't have anything, Like I don't

1597
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:02,559
Speaker 1: even know what to wear. I'm afraid I don't have

1598
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:06,920
Speaker 1: the right layers. Like you were out there and borrow

1599
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 1: You're out there and borrow something, borrow something blue. I

1600
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:12,920
Speaker 1: was happy to share. But that was my first hunt,

1601
01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:17,360
Speaker 1: I should say, my first hunt with Cal. I didn't

1602
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:20,599
Speaker 1: even like I just I practiced just hiking with the gun,

1603
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:23,280
Speaker 1: like I didn't even bother thinking I was going to

1604
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 1: shoot something. Like I went out there and I was

1605
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 1: just like, I just want to know what this is about. Um.

1606
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:31,200
Speaker 1: And it was great. I mean, it's a great experience

1607
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 1: because I gotta, you know, set my sights on some bull,

1608
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:36,320
Speaker 1: young bull elk. We just saw a ton of them

1609
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:39,560
Speaker 1: out where we were and just practice sneaking. Yeah, this

1610
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:43,120
Speaker 1: is like in a very limited draw unit. And Kyle's

1611
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 1: body was trying to find a smoker, which he eventually

1612
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:49,759
Speaker 1: did not that trip, but at the end of November,

1613
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:53,439
Speaker 1: so you want to get in one, yeah he did. Um.

1614
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:55,240
Speaker 1: And you know, it was just that that first trip

1615
01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 1: was just a learning experience and just trying to get

1616
01:31:57,320 --> 01:32:01,240
Speaker 1: out there. And I was just I don't know, I

1617
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:03,160
Speaker 1: was I just I came back and I was like, Okay,

1618
01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 1: when when can we go again? And you were doing

1619
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 1: some dry firing. Cal was saying dry firing. Yeah, I

1620
01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:09,559
Speaker 1: mean he had me setting up on tree limbs, He

1621
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:11,920
Speaker 1: had me setting up on rocks, on backpacks, like he

1622
01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:16,400
Speaker 1: put me in every situation. Probably cool. Yeah, Well, I

1623
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:18,680
Speaker 1: mean in the second trip even more, like I was

1624
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:20,920
Speaker 1: literally looking at a buck that was downhill with me

1625
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:23,880
Speaker 1: and like my face was down in my head or

1626
01:32:23,920 --> 01:32:26,639
Speaker 1: my head and my feet were up on the like

1627
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 1: above me. You know, like he had me everywhere. Um,

1628
01:32:31,000 --> 01:32:33,800
Speaker 1: but yeah, I just I loved it so much and

1629
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,680
Speaker 1: so I was like, when can we go again? And we, um,

1630
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:38,840
Speaker 1: you know, made it work right before Thanksgiving because I

1631
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:40,479
Speaker 1: was the only other time that we could do. It

1632
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:42,920
Speaker 1: almost came with me. I almost came with you guys,

1633
01:32:42,920 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't really think I want

1634
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:47,599
Speaker 1: to hunt four days in a row, but yeah, quite yet,

1635
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:53,559
Speaker 1: two days is enough. Cale talked about on Cal's Weekend review.

1636
01:32:53,680 --> 01:32:57,559
Speaker 1: Cal touched on Hunting with You, and Cal had a

1637
01:32:57,560 --> 01:33:01,439
Speaker 1: comment where, um, you saw all the importance of mentoring people,

1638
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:06,559
Speaker 1: and he mentioned that he doesn't like when people say like, oh,

1639
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:09,559
Speaker 1: I got him his first year. Yeah, he doesn't like

1640
01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:12,120
Speaker 1: that I got her her first year because I think

1641
01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:16,479
Speaker 1: I said that, Yeah he tried. He goes, you should

1642
01:33:16,479 --> 01:33:19,759
Speaker 1: probably be trying to create a scenario where someone feels

1643
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:22,559
Speaker 1: like they got it, Which is true though, because you

1644
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:25,360
Speaker 1: need to take full responsibility for that thing that you

1645
01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:28,400
Speaker 1: just shot, So you should always like, I think that's

1646
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:30,439
Speaker 1: the right the right approach, Like I want to take

1647
01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:35,000
Speaker 1: full responsibility for it totally. Um. Anyway, so we went

1648
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:39,559
Speaker 1: on that second um hunt in mid November, and we

1649
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:43,800
Speaker 1: went over to like, I don't know honestly where we were,

1650
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:46,680
Speaker 1: but we're on some BLM and state Land. It's like,

1651
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:48,479
Speaker 1: but a blind bold on me and take me a

1652
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:58,439
Speaker 1: middle nowhere in Canada. You're somewhere in Montana. Even if

1653
01:33:58,439 --> 01:34:01,960
Speaker 1: you know exactly, I like that appro yeah right, yeah,

1654
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:05,080
Speaker 1: I really don't know. That's what I just kept telling people.

1655
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:09,280
Speaker 1: Wanted to tell you, I couldn't, but I mean it

1656
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:12,040
Speaker 1: was it was a great area. I mean that. So

1657
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:14,000
Speaker 1: we like woke up whatever five in the morning. I

1658
01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:16,400
Speaker 1: guess what we're supposed to do. I want to go hunting.

1659
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:23,439
Speaker 1: It was dark. Guy, I never actually ever saw the

1660
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:25,920
Speaker 1: view from the truck because we were either waking up

1661
01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:30,000
Speaker 1: super early or getting back super late. So gorgeous there,

1662
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:31,639
Speaker 1: but I don't know what the view from the chuck

1663
01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:34,599
Speaker 1: looked like. Like, so that's what this place looks like.

1664
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I bet that's pretty up there

1665
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:41,679
Speaker 1: from the truck. You mean at camp? Yeah, I camp,

1666
01:34:43,000 --> 01:34:48,439
Speaker 1: yeah every day, which was only two days, um and yeah,

1667
01:34:48,479 --> 01:34:51,880
Speaker 1: so he just got up. I mean it was pretty windy,

1668
01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:53,519
Speaker 1: but then once we got down in the valley it

1669
01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:55,840
Speaker 1: was fine. At one point Cal was like, hand me

1670
01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:57,680
Speaker 1: your gun and I was like okay, and he's and

1671
01:34:57,720 --> 01:35:00,240
Speaker 1: it's like dark, you know, and he's like, figure out

1672
01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 1: how to get up this this cliff and I was like,

1673
01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:04,439
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Like I can't even see

1674
01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:06,439
Speaker 1: what we're looking at, and so I'm like feeling around

1675
01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:09,200
Speaker 1: blindly and I finally find some sort of like stick

1676
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 1: thing and I get myself up there and it's like, okay,

1677
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:12,639
Speaker 1: now you can get up here with both the guns.

1678
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:18,160
Speaker 1: Like um, but yeah, we're just you know, hiking up

1679
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:23,640
Speaker 1: and down everywhere. I don't know. And that first day, um,

1680
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:26,360
Speaker 1: we saw I mean we saw a ton of deer

1681
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:29,080
Speaker 1: first of all, like so many deer, a lot of bucks,

1682
01:35:29,080 --> 01:35:31,759
Speaker 1: a lot of four keys, and we're kind of watching

1683
01:35:31,760 --> 01:35:34,320
Speaker 1: this one specific bull but he was on private. I

1684
01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:36,880
Speaker 1: don't know why we just watched him for a while.

1685
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:40,479
Speaker 1: I'm sorry buck, Yeah, um, I don't know why we

1686
01:35:40,520 --> 01:35:43,600
Speaker 1: watched him for so long. He was well yeah, so

1687
01:35:43,680 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 1: Cal like left me to watch these two bucks. He

1688
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:49,680
Speaker 1: went to go poop and then and he was like,

1689
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:52,080
Speaker 1: oh my god, we gotta go find this guy. And

1690
01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:54,400
Speaker 1: I was like okay, and so like we go and

1691
01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:58,800
Speaker 1: watch this guy. He's like telling me to like this buck, sorry,

1692
01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:05,559
Speaker 1: this ale Neil dear and so we're looking at him,

1693
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:09,080
Speaker 1: and the worst part that was Cal's calls like, Okay,

1694
01:36:09,200 --> 01:36:11,280
Speaker 1: now you gotta go down there and you gotta find

1695
01:36:11,280 --> 01:36:13,760
Speaker 1: a better position to go watch him. So like I

1696
01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:15,519
Speaker 1: go and do this, and then he follows me, like,

1697
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:17,280
Speaker 1: you know, ten minutes later, he's like, you did that

1698
01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:21,120
Speaker 1: all wrong. I'm like, yeah, I know, like I am

1699
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:24,000
Speaker 1: horrible at sneaking. I don't understand it. It's not my blood.

1700
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:25,720
Speaker 1: I just like I'm just kind of like this is

1701
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:27,759
Speaker 1: really like I feel like this is like role playing

1702
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 1: right now and just like not good at it. Um

1703
01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:33,920
Speaker 1: But you know, eventually, I mean we end up calling

1704
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 1: that guy dick head because he just did not get

1705
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:38,599
Speaker 1: off private land. He was like obsessed with this one

1706
01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:41,080
Speaker 1: lady who was just doing whatever she felt like doing.

1707
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:43,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, she had her own, you know, game plan,

1708
01:36:44,400 --> 01:36:48,080
Speaker 1: and so she was not putting out she did not

1709
01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:51,720
Speaker 1: and um so Cal kind of like wandered off for

1710
01:36:51,760 --> 01:37:00,400
Speaker 1: a while, and problem I think he was fine. I

1711
01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:02,880
Speaker 1: don't know, very regular out there. Did you guys have

1712
01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:04,880
Speaker 1: taco bell like we did the night before we went

1713
01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 1: out and was driving and pulling over and throwing up

1714
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:18,959
Speaker 1: did yeah, yeah, the guy would be last. I honestly

1715
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:21,599
Speaker 1: don't even remember what we ate. But he was fine.

1716
01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:24,640
Speaker 1: He's just going off doing little errands looking around. He

1717
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:28,120
Speaker 1: was very healthy, very regular. Anyways. Yeah, and then he

1718
01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:30,960
Speaker 1: came back and was like, oh, let's go this way.

1719
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:32,920
Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm whispering, Let's go this way.

1720
01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:36,440
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of like you're back in the moment. Yeah,

1721
01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:40,040
Speaker 1: deer out in this one. I don't know, some other

1722
01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:43,479
Speaker 1: area behind us. And so we like left our bags

1723
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 1: and every like we literally left everything. Never leave your bag.

1724
01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:49,280
Speaker 1: Never dropped the pack, no apocalypse now, never leave the boat.

1725
01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 1: You've been just you can lame this on cal Okay, never.

1726
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:56,800
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you, I don't care what he does.

1727
01:37:57,680 --> 01:38:03,600
Speaker 1: Never leave your bag. Okay, moving on the rationale for

1728
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:10,160
Speaker 1: that one thing. The moment I left my bag and

1729
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:14,520
Speaker 1: I didn't have everything that, yeah, they're like, oh, in fact,

1730
01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:17,640
Speaker 1: moved again. Yeah, totally. And then you don't get a

1731
01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:20,040
Speaker 1: good hit on it. And then a lady you're like, oh,

1732
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:21,840
Speaker 1: here comes a little rain squad. I wish I had

1733
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:24,559
Speaker 1: my rain jack. Or it's like two in the morning

1734
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:29,280
Speaker 1: and you finally find it. That's totally accurate, and it

1735
01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:33,000
Speaker 1: was like I think it was some bipod with me.

1736
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:34,880
Speaker 1: So it was just like once, but it was kind

1737
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:36,280
Speaker 1: of like I said, it was kind of fun though,

1738
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:38,640
Speaker 1: because we went to this one in area. There's like

1739
01:38:38,720 --> 01:38:41,599
Speaker 1: tons of juniper around and we were like in the

1740
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:45,200
Speaker 1: trees and we were sneaking up on um just like

1741
01:38:45,240 --> 01:38:47,080
Speaker 1: I said, tons of deer, tons of does and a

1742
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:49,479
Speaker 1: few four keys and so we're looking at them through

1743
01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:52,000
Speaker 1: the trees and he's like, okay, like I want you

1744
01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:55,280
Speaker 1: to look at that for ky and you know, see

1745
01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:57,400
Speaker 1: if you can get a good position. And so we

1746
01:38:57,479 --> 01:39:01,320
Speaker 1: practice a lot of different positions like prone on a tree,

1747
01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:05,800
Speaker 1: limb again on some juniper, which is all amazing. And

1748
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:09,480
Speaker 1: I just never felt comfortable in any of the positions

1749
01:39:09,560 --> 01:39:12,599
Speaker 1: at all. And Um he was just like, yeah, that's good,

1750
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:14,960
Speaker 1: just like you like are just like kind of learning

1751
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:19,120
Speaker 1: and knowing that this isn't the right time or moment whatever.

1752
01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:23,559
Speaker 1: He didn't say what's the problem name, No, he didn't.

1753
01:39:23,600 --> 01:39:26,800
Speaker 1: He was very patient. Was there ever any impatience? Um,

1754
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:31,960
Speaker 1: maybe on my end, but not really on his. I

1755
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:35,840
Speaker 1: know for a fact that Joe Frigno, Joe Ferronado had

1756
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:40,599
Speaker 1: feelings of impatience, lots of them. That was a squirrelingwithstanding

1757
01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:45,519
Speaker 1: and didn't communicate. He communicated them to me, but he

1758
01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:50,240
Speaker 1: also last night he communicated them to me too, immediately after,

1759
01:39:52,600 --> 01:39:57,479
Speaker 1: but he didn't say, what's the problem. He didn't I think,

1760
01:39:57,479 --> 01:40:08,439
Speaker 1: I say, what exactly is the problem? We know the problem?

1761
01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:16,280
Speaker 1: What exactly? So he had you like, so, let me

1762
01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:19,519
Speaker 1: get this straight. You see a forky and you guys

1763
01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:22,840
Speaker 1: are trophy hunting, so you're just practiced, you're driving trophy hunting.

1764
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:25,920
Speaker 1: We're just hunting at this point because I don't know so,

1765
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:29,760
Speaker 1: but why were you not the forky you were looking at? You?

1766
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:32,160
Speaker 1: Were you had intent to kill the forky? Yeah? Okay,

1767
01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:34,840
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Yeah, Yeah, it's just I just didn't feel

1768
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:37,280
Speaker 1: comfortable and like he was moving a lot. He was

1769
01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:39,840
Speaker 1: following another lady and they were going everywhere, and I

1770
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:42,519
Speaker 1: just I just so the intent was to get him, yes,

1771
01:40:42,720 --> 01:40:44,120
Speaker 1: but you couldn't get it you could get it done.

1772
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:46,120
Speaker 1: Didn't feel as our bear hunter friend said, you could

1773
01:40:46,120 --> 01:40:48,439
Speaker 1: not get it done, could not get it done. And

1774
01:40:48,800 --> 01:40:50,760
Speaker 1: that was kind of the end of that day. So

1775
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:54,839
Speaker 1: then come the night, were you disappointed? Were you like, oh, bummer,

1776
01:40:55,360 --> 01:40:57,799
Speaker 1: you know, The only reason why I felt a little

1777
01:40:57,840 --> 01:41:01,040
Speaker 1: disappointed is because I wanted Hole to go hunting the

1778
01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:04,320
Speaker 1: next day and the next because the first day he

1779
01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:07,680
Speaker 1: brought his gun, I think he had was like on

1780
01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:11,679
Speaker 1: a trip right before that. Oh yeah, another like BLM

1781
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:14,599
Speaker 1: trip that he took, and he misfired a couple of times.

1782
01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:16,760
Speaker 1: So he was like wanting to figure out what was

1783
01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:20,360
Speaker 1: going on? What do you mean he misfired? He missed?

1784
01:41:20,720 --> 01:41:24,320
Speaker 1: He oh sorry, yeah, sorry, not mispired? Um or is

1785
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:27,479
Speaker 1: that what it is? Like he shot at whatever deer

1786
01:41:28,160 --> 01:41:32,799
Speaker 1: and he missed like twice at the same cow. He's

1787
01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:37,479
Speaker 1: the oh not this trip? No, Yeah, So I wanted

1788
01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:39,840
Speaker 1: I was disappointed because I was like, I wanted him

1789
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:42,800
Speaker 1: to get that figured out. And I mean, clearly that's

1790
01:41:42,840 --> 01:41:44,960
Speaker 1: not his worry about is like mine. I'm like, man,

1791
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:48,720
Speaker 1: I don't want you to wait for me anyways. Um

1792
01:41:48,800 --> 01:41:53,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, next day, same old thing basically, and just

1793
01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:55,880
Speaker 1: kind of got up to a point and um as

1794
01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:59,120
Speaker 1: the sun rose were glassing and saw a bunch of

1795
01:41:59,160 --> 01:42:02,120
Speaker 1: deer again. Funding all this are you checking something off?

1796
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:04,920
Speaker 1: You'll checklist? Hate it all? Know? I had an amazing time,

1797
01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:09,320
Speaker 1: like like the minute by minute of it. Yes, Oh,

1798
01:42:09,360 --> 01:42:12,160
Speaker 1: my gosh, and I really like, I love watching the animals,

1799
01:42:12,240 --> 01:42:15,720
Speaker 1: learning about the behavior I didn't understand before going out there,

1800
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:18,320
Speaker 1: Like when you're hunting bucks, you're hunting does and you're

1801
01:42:18,320 --> 01:42:21,840
Speaker 1: watching for their reactions and like what they're looking for,

1802
01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:24,240
Speaker 1: and I just I learned so much about that and

1803
01:42:24,280 --> 01:42:27,200
Speaker 1: that was my favorite part, was like not looking for

1804
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 1: the buck, it was looking for the does. Yeah. I

1805
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:31,559
Speaker 1: think one of the funniest things is when you're hunting

1806
01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:37,920
Speaker 1: and there's good running activity and you see dose staring

1807
01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:43,840
Speaker 1: in an almost sort of like agitated way, and you're like, God,

1808
01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:47,080
Speaker 1: do I want to know what they're staring at? Totally

1809
01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:49,800
Speaker 1: that's how I felt. And it seemed like tents up

1810
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:52,920
Speaker 1: and they're looking. You're like what what? That was the

1811
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:55,280
Speaker 1: coolest thing. He was like, cal, we're looking at some

1812
01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:58,519
Speaker 1: I don't know, some does out in this little opening

1813
01:42:58,600 --> 01:43:00,960
Speaker 1: amongst the trees. And he was like, they're looking into

1814
01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:02,599
Speaker 1: those trees and I was like what, And he brings

1815
01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:05,800
Speaker 1: out what are those rack things called dry pod? No, no,

1816
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:16,240
Speaker 1: my kids. I offered to go find it for you, um,

1817
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:18,720
Speaker 1: but he brought that out and then, like I don't know,

1818
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:20,680
Speaker 1: minutes later, a buck comes out of the trees, and

1819
01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:24,000
Speaker 1: I's like, that is the coolest thing. Have a rattle

1820
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:28,400
Speaker 1: like the little rattle pack green thing. Yeah, rack, dude,

1821
01:43:28,439 --> 01:43:31,120
Speaker 1: you can't. I tried. My kid lost mine. I couldn't

1822
01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:36,080
Speaker 1: find the sons of bitches anywhere anywhere on Amazon. There

1823
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:38,559
Speaker 1: are other places besides. I just ran out of steam.

1824
01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 1: But he's killing me. Man, when snow melts, you're going

1825
01:43:42,560 --> 01:43:44,559
Speaker 1: to find my stuff. I offered to go find it

1826
01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:50,800
Speaker 1: before and you said no. The rattle bag. I think

1827
01:43:50,800 --> 01:43:55,479
Speaker 1: it's is it, dude? Things loud inhale. I need to

1828
01:43:55,520 --> 01:43:58,599
Speaker 1: find that. I don't know what's killing men. I bought

1829
01:43:58,640 --> 01:44:03,960
Speaker 1: some other stupid rack. It's like, anyways, go on. Okay,

1830
01:44:04,040 --> 01:44:05,760
Speaker 1: so he's trying to he's going to rattle the buck.

1831
01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:08,679
Speaker 1: You're trying to get to take a look. There wasn't effective. Yeah,

1832
01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:15,400
Speaker 1: I was effective. He came out and where what's that website?

1833
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:22,200
Speaker 1: Sent to me? This Google? Yeah? I was that founded

1834
01:44:22,240 --> 01:44:28,680
Speaker 1: on the Google. Um. Yeah, and I don't know. I'll say,

1835
01:44:28,720 --> 01:44:30,599
Speaker 1: is about this day because it could go on forever?

1836
01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:34,679
Speaker 1: Is that I probably had about two or three shots

1837
01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:37,559
Speaker 1: before I got my buck that I should have taken

1838
01:44:37,560 --> 01:44:40,880
Speaker 1: the shot. I think at least definitely too, but and

1839
01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:44,840
Speaker 1: one of them I impatience from kel no impatience. So

1840
01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:46,840
Speaker 1: he's just like whatever, what does that it get away?

1841
01:44:47,240 --> 01:44:52,960
Speaker 1: What happened was like one of them, Um, I don't know.

1842
01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:55,000
Speaker 1: It was really cool. I gotta kind of set up

1843
01:44:55,040 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 1: on this dough that was standing stick on this mountain side,

1844
01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:01,640
Speaker 1: and that was great. She was staying there for like

1845
01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:04,240
Speaker 1: ten minutes and I was laying there prone and I

1846
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:06,320
Speaker 1: was like, okay, I could have shot the dickens out

1847
01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:09,280
Speaker 1: of her. Yeah, I totally could have. Um. I was like, how,

1848
01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:12,960
Speaker 1: like tell me where I need to set my gun,

1849
01:45:13,160 --> 01:45:16,599
Speaker 1: like my sights, and like once he we did that,

1850
01:45:16,680 --> 01:45:19,280
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I feel comfortable now. I feel

1851
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:23,280
Speaker 1: like I can I can do this like whole shooting thing. Um.

1852
01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:25,320
Speaker 1: And then the buck came out and he was moving

1853
01:45:25,400 --> 01:45:27,960
Speaker 1: and I didn't feel comfortable. But then right behind us

1854
01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:29,600
Speaker 1: was another buck that came out, so it's like we

1855
01:45:29,640 --> 01:45:33,479
Speaker 1: whipped around, turned around. I got ready to shoot that one,

1856
01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:38,160
Speaker 1: and I, um, you know how it's like safety and

1857
01:45:38,200 --> 01:45:41,799
Speaker 1: then there was that middle thing and then it's fire safety.

1858
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:44,240
Speaker 1: So I thought I had put it all the way

1859
01:45:44,320 --> 01:45:45,559
Speaker 1: up to fire and I only got it up to

1860
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:47,479
Speaker 1: that middle port because I went to go shoot and

1861
01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:51,519
Speaker 1: nothing happened. I couldn't and I was like, there's piece

1862
01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:57,200
Speaker 1: of sh what the and um, yeah, that one I

1863
01:45:57,280 --> 01:45:59,080
Speaker 1: definitely could have gotten. And that would have been a

1864
01:45:59,080 --> 01:46:02,640
Speaker 1: great one because it was about ten am. Shut up

1865
01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:04,920
Speaker 1: at ten am, and it would have been nice if

1866
01:46:04,960 --> 01:46:06,280
Speaker 1: I had gotten that one, because then I could have

1867
01:46:06,320 --> 01:46:08,559
Speaker 1: probably done the whole like cutting it up and learned

1868
01:46:08,600 --> 01:46:11,320
Speaker 1: all of that. But that didn't happen, so we kind

1869
01:46:11,360 --> 01:46:13,080
Speaker 1: of had to keep hunting for the rest of the day.

1870
01:46:13,439 --> 01:46:15,639
Speaker 1: And it wasn't until the very last hour of light.

1871
01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:17,639
Speaker 1: And let me tell you a lot of other things

1872
01:46:17,640 --> 01:46:19,120
Speaker 1: are going on a lot of other bucks, a lot

1873
01:46:19,120 --> 01:46:21,800
Speaker 1: of other shooting situations that we tried for. I don't

1874
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:24,439
Speaker 1: know we did. We had so much up until this

1875
01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:28,240
Speaker 1: buck last hour of light. And um, it was because

1876
01:46:28,240 --> 01:46:31,519
Speaker 1: we were following this one buck that was like super nice.

1877
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:35,160
Speaker 1: But um, I think Cal say no, like he was

1878
01:46:35,200 --> 01:46:38,320
Speaker 1: just handsome. Um, like I think he was, as Cal

1879
01:46:38,479 --> 01:46:44,679
Speaker 1: called a monster buck or whatever, and um, we were

1880
01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:49,080
Speaker 1: following him. Um, and that took us over onto state

1881
01:46:49,160 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 1: Land and I honestly like, don't I had to have

1882
01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:56,880
Speaker 1: Cal tell me this whole story again after it all

1883
01:46:56,960 --> 01:47:01,760
Speaker 1: happened like after you were black yeah, blackout Basically. I

1884
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:03,559
Speaker 1: was like, once we got in the car and like

1885
01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:08,200
Speaker 1: started driving away, I was like, so what happened? Um?

1886
01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:11,920
Speaker 1: It was like a night of drinking. Yeah, like last night.

1887
01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:17,320
Speaker 1: So he saw a dough which I never saw. That

1888
01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:19,920
Speaker 1: was also a major theme of the trip is he

1889
01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:24,840
Speaker 1: saw a lot of things that I never saw and

1890
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:27,880
Speaker 1: solid dough. So he was like, we need to sneak

1891
01:47:27,960 --> 01:47:30,320
Speaker 1: up on this dough. And he's like there's antlers like

1892
01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:33,439
Speaker 1: over this ridge and like that guy doesn't see us.

1893
01:47:33,479 --> 01:47:37,240
Speaker 1: And I was like okay, um, and so we're like sneaking, sneaking,

1894
01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:41,160
Speaker 1: and we spooked the dough, but we kind of keep

1895
01:47:41,200 --> 01:47:44,800
Speaker 1: sneaking because the Um, I guess what happened was the

1896
01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:49,240
Speaker 1: buck drove the dough right in front of us. And

1897
01:47:49,400 --> 01:47:52,679
Speaker 1: it happened so fast. It was just like Cal set

1898
01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:55,320
Speaker 1: his pack down, I put my gun on the pack,

1899
01:47:55,800 --> 01:47:58,800
Speaker 1: and I um like waited there and Cal goes, do

1900
01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:00,920
Speaker 1: you see them? And appair only I got snippy and

1901
01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:03,120
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I don't see them. They're only

1902
01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:06,439
Speaker 1: like forty yards in front of us, guys, so they're

1903
01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:12,479
Speaker 1: not far though you're looking farther than and then they

1904
01:48:12,520 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 1: can be literally in front of the literally in front

1905
01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:19,040
Speaker 1: of us. You know, you know, you know the games

1906
01:48:19,080 --> 01:48:23,320
Speaker 1: people play. I never read it. I believe, so there's

1907
01:48:23,320 --> 01:48:26,479
Speaker 1: a thing. There's a game people play. I think it's

1908
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:32,200
Speaker 1: explaining this where um, it's just about what it's kind

1909
01:48:32,200 --> 01:48:34,880
Speaker 1: of like how horrible people are and the games played.

1910
01:48:34,880 --> 01:48:36,559
Speaker 1: But there's a thing that happens where like I come

1911
01:48:36,600 --> 01:48:39,600
Speaker 1: to Tracy and I'm like, Tracy, I'm having, you know,

1912
01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:42,840
Speaker 1: really a difficult time hitting my sales quota at work

1913
01:48:43,120 --> 01:48:47,799
Speaker 1: right And she goes, well, maybe you could try working

1914
01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:50,720
Speaker 1: late a few days, or maybe you could try, you know,

1915
01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:54,040
Speaker 1: a different approach, And then I attack her. That's one

1916
01:48:54,040 --> 01:48:57,800
Speaker 1: of the games You'll never like, what do you know?

1917
01:48:57,840 --> 01:49:00,640
Speaker 1: You'll never understand. It's more of the things we do

1918
01:49:00,680 --> 01:49:03,360
Speaker 1: as humans. So you were doing I did that to

1919
01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:07,400
Speaker 1: come exactly. I'm not ashamed of it. I was telling him.

1920
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:09,200
Speaker 1: I was like, when I get comfortable with people, I

1921
01:49:09,280 --> 01:49:11,519
Speaker 1: either like get snippy or I don't talk to you.

1922
01:49:13,080 --> 01:49:15,680
Speaker 1: Because there are times where he'd be like, so, how

1923
01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:17,559
Speaker 1: are you feeling. I haven't heard from you for a while,

1924
01:49:17,600 --> 01:49:19,679
Speaker 1: And I was just like, I like talk a lot

1925
01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:21,680
Speaker 1: less like when I'm hanging out with people, like I

1926
01:49:21,720 --> 01:49:26,880
Speaker 1: love silence, especially when you're outside. But um, yeah, so

1927
01:49:26,920 --> 01:49:28,880
Speaker 1: it's just it all happened really fast in the dough.

1928
01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:31,080
Speaker 1: I finally saw the dough and she was staring straight

1929
01:49:31,120 --> 01:49:33,880
Speaker 1: at me like, hey, hey, you know this guy is

1930
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:35,479
Speaker 1: coming after me. I'd love for you to get rid

1931
01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:40,400
Speaker 1: of him. And um, so I just kind of um

1932
01:49:40,640 --> 01:49:44,160
Speaker 1: set up behind her and the buck like walked right

1933
01:49:44,200 --> 01:49:48,519
Speaker 1: into my sights, yeah, and looked straight at me, and

1934
01:49:48,680 --> 01:49:51,240
Speaker 1: um took the shot. I was like on my knees

1935
01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:55,920
Speaker 1: and yeah, the the gun was on the backpack, so

1936
01:49:55,960 --> 01:49:58,120
Speaker 1: it's upright. You were on your knees. Yeah, I was

1937
01:49:58,160 --> 01:50:01,880
Speaker 1: kneeling like, yeah, the back picks ending up the kind

1938
01:50:03,120 --> 01:50:05,000
Speaker 1: through the lungs, but I always went through the front

1939
01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:06,760
Speaker 1: shoulder too, because there's a lot of trauma to that.

1940
01:50:07,080 --> 01:50:13,960
Speaker 1: So it piled right up. Yeah. Yeah. And emotions, Yeah,

1941
01:50:14,160 --> 01:50:19,680
Speaker 1: you get like emotional, Yes, so Pelonso got emotional. Oh no,

1942
01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:22,559
Speaker 1: I'm sure, how can you not, right, Rookie of the Year.

1943
01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:25,880
Speaker 1: I was in denial though, like you wanted, you were

1944
01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:28,439
Speaker 1: denying that it was dead. No, I was in denial

1945
01:50:28,479 --> 01:50:29,920
Speaker 1: that it was my dear and you know, what I

1946
01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:32,880
Speaker 1: told Mark Kenyon this you thought someone else got it? Yeah,

1947
01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:34,639
Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, this is this is someone

1948
01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:37,439
Speaker 1: else's dear. This isn't my dear, but you're only forty

1949
01:50:37,479 --> 01:50:40,280
Speaker 1: yards away from it. I don't understand why I felt

1950
01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:41,960
Speaker 1: this space to even I'm not trying to make sense

1951
01:50:41,960 --> 01:50:45,040
Speaker 1: of it. But no, Mark Kenyon said, he said he

1952
01:50:45,160 --> 01:50:47,400
Speaker 1: felt the same exact thing. He was like, no, it's

1953
01:50:47,439 --> 01:50:49,680
Speaker 1: not my dear. So you guys kind of went like

1954
01:50:49,680 --> 01:50:53,679
Speaker 1: a little bit insane for a minute. No, it's cold

1955
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:58,080
Speaker 1: like the stages of grieving denial. I think is the

1956
01:50:58,120 --> 01:51:01,799
Speaker 1: first stage. You had a that there must be another

1957
01:51:01,880 --> 01:51:06,640
Speaker 1: explanation for this deer laying right by where I just

1958
01:51:06,800 --> 01:51:12,160
Speaker 1: shot at a deer. Yes, I'm okay, so let me

1959
01:51:12,160 --> 01:51:14,840
Speaker 1: tell you. He someone I've never had someone expresses to me.

1960
01:51:15,040 --> 01:51:17,920
Speaker 1: So I shot him. I was looking at my scope

1961
01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:21,000
Speaker 1: the whole time, and I don't know why I did this,

1962
01:51:21,080 --> 01:51:23,719
Speaker 1: but I like immediately put another bullet in the chamber,

1963
01:51:24,720 --> 01:51:30,160
Speaker 1: and that's next year's that's next year's lesson. Okay. Yeah,

1964
01:51:30,280 --> 01:51:32,599
Speaker 1: I literally was just like I shot him, and I

1965
01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:36,760
Speaker 1: just stayed in my scope, did another chamber whatever. I

1966
01:51:36,800 --> 01:51:39,400
Speaker 1: was like, Yeah, I'm like a natural, like I got

1967
01:51:39,479 --> 01:51:42,760
Speaker 1: to get ready to shoot, Chamber did another I know

1968
01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:46,479
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about here, and then I felt the

1969
01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:54,680
Speaker 1: ice running through my name chamber, and then Cal was

1970
01:51:54,720 --> 01:51:57,599
Speaker 1: the one was like, we need to go find this deer.

1971
01:51:57,680 --> 01:51:59,960
Speaker 1: And he was like, take the bullet out of the chamber.

1972
01:52:02,840 --> 01:52:07,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to um and hand me the rifle.

1973
01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:12,800
Speaker 1: I wonder if I did, but yeah, so I was like,

1974
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:14,479
Speaker 1: come on, we gotta go find it. And I was

1975
01:52:14,520 --> 01:52:18,439
Speaker 1: like okay, okay, and then we, you know, run up

1976
01:52:18,640 --> 01:52:21,320
Speaker 1: a little bit to where it was and I'm of

1977
01:52:21,320 --> 01:52:23,960
Speaker 1: course just like standing there like what happened? I don't know.

1978
01:52:24,240 --> 01:52:26,080
Speaker 1: And then he's like, oh, look that way, and then

1979
01:52:26,080 --> 01:52:29,800
Speaker 1: there was like the dear, my dear, just probably like

1980
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:32,599
Speaker 1: twenty yards in front of us or something and just

1981
01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:36,360
Speaker 1: laying there dead. And I was just in shock. I

1982
01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:43,400
Speaker 1: was like, that was there probably the whole time, right, Yeah.

1983
01:52:43,439 --> 01:52:45,639
Speaker 1: I was like he just like laid like walked over

1984
01:52:45,680 --> 01:52:48,720
Speaker 1: there and just laid down and ended up expiring but

1985
01:52:50,000 --> 01:52:53,000
Speaker 1: ended up being my dear. I didn't even So that

1986
01:52:53,080 --> 01:52:55,800
Speaker 1: was the other thing I had seen Maggie's photo as

1987
01:52:55,880 --> 01:52:59,400
Speaker 1: I was driving out to this area with Cal and

1988
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:03,120
Speaker 1: your dear had blood like you saw blood and my

1989
01:53:03,200 --> 01:53:05,439
Speaker 1: dear had no blood. So that was another reason why

1990
01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:07,839
Speaker 1: I was like, this is not my dear. There's no blood,

1991
01:53:07,960 --> 01:53:13,080
Speaker 1: like he just died peacefully, and UM, yeah, I got

1992
01:53:13,120 --> 01:53:15,080
Speaker 1: you cal basically how to be like, this is your

1993
01:53:15,560 --> 01:53:19,040
Speaker 1: sucking dear, uh, and I'm going to leave you alone

1994
01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:21,320
Speaker 1: for a few minutes so you can be with it.

1995
01:53:21,439 --> 01:53:25,000
Speaker 1: Mainly because I lost his first light first light prototype

1996
01:53:25,040 --> 01:53:28,360
Speaker 1: jacket and find oh man as finds up putting Kevin

1997
01:53:28,400 --> 01:53:37,040
Speaker 1: in a really awkward position. Looks like I'm doing some hiking. Um.

1998
01:53:37,080 --> 01:53:40,160
Speaker 1: And so the moment that Kyle left, I I just

1999
01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:42,920
Speaker 1: started crying and I just started talking to this dear

2000
01:53:43,040 --> 01:53:45,040
Speaker 1: and I was just like trying to tell him is like,

2001
01:53:45,120 --> 01:53:47,759
Speaker 1: so you know, like we put in a lot of effort.

2002
01:53:47,840 --> 01:53:50,360
Speaker 1: You know my opinion, we put in a lot of effort,

2003
01:53:50,479 --> 01:53:53,120
Speaker 1: Like you know, I just I want to tell you

2004
01:53:53,120 --> 01:53:54,920
Speaker 1: how much I'm grateful for you and all this stuff.

2005
01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:57,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was just very emotional at that moment.

2006
01:53:57,760 --> 01:54:01,320
Speaker 1: Do you feel that if you were um murdered by

2007
01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:07,639
Speaker 1: another person, uh, and you're you're dying and the person says,

2008
01:54:08,640 --> 01:54:12,840
Speaker 1: you know, I want you to know, Um, I feel horrible,

2009
01:54:13,640 --> 01:54:16,200
Speaker 1: but but very grateful for you. Do you know what

2010
01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:18,000
Speaker 1: would you would you feel better about it? Or would

2011
01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:22,719
Speaker 1: you would that piss like? Would that piss you off? More? Um? Well,

2012
01:54:22,840 --> 01:54:24,680
Speaker 1: would it matter? Because then I'd be dead like two

2013
01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:28,320
Speaker 1: seconds like that you had awareness of it, like, doesn't care?

2014
01:54:28,720 --> 01:54:31,559
Speaker 1: What does it change anything? No, it's not for the deer.

2015
01:54:31,640 --> 01:54:34,880
Speaker 1: Probably it's probably more for me at that point. I

2016
01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:36,640
Speaker 1: don't know how I would respond if also now is

2017
01:54:37,240 --> 01:54:41,360
Speaker 1: walked to woods and and then work so hard. It

2018
01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:44,280
Speaker 1: works so hard to find you, Steve. I've got great

2019
01:54:44,320 --> 01:54:47,520
Speaker 1: plans for your forearms and your calves and gonna make

2020
01:54:47,600 --> 01:54:51,840
Speaker 1: ashabuco Or would I be like, dude, it doesn't matter. Yeah,

2021
01:54:51,880 --> 01:54:54,240
Speaker 1: I know it probably would be like I don't care anymore.

2022
01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:58,560
Speaker 1: I'm dying. Um. But yeah, it was like I said,

2023
01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:02,600
Speaker 1: as in that last hour of light, so um, we

2024
01:55:02,640 --> 01:55:05,080
Speaker 1: had to get going. Yeah, what he mentioned it? But

2025
01:55:05,120 --> 01:55:07,440
Speaker 1: why is that? Was it impending weather? Like? What was

2026
01:55:07,480 --> 01:55:10,440
Speaker 1: the problem? The temperature was dropping, it started sleeping on us,

2027
01:55:10,560 --> 01:55:13,160
Speaker 1: and we were definitely a lot further from the car

2028
01:55:13,240 --> 01:55:16,040
Speaker 1: than I think he had wanted to be. Of course,

2029
01:55:16,200 --> 01:55:18,120
Speaker 1: none of these things, I know. I'm just like going

2030
01:55:18,200 --> 01:55:20,080
Speaker 1: on along for this ride, so I'm like, yeah, this

2031
01:55:20,160 --> 01:55:21,760
Speaker 1: is great. So it's kind of a hard like a

2032
01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:25,560
Speaker 1: hard out like maybe, I mean he made it very easy.

2033
01:55:25,640 --> 01:55:28,879
Speaker 1: We stayed for the most part on the flat areas,

2034
01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:30,680
Speaker 1: so we weren't doing a ton of climbing, so he

2035
01:55:30,720 --> 01:55:32,880
Speaker 1: had to help you cut it up. Oh no, he did,

2036
01:55:32,920 --> 01:55:34,560
Speaker 1: like all the cutting up. That was the thing. I

2037
01:55:34,600 --> 01:55:37,160
Speaker 1: didn't get to learn anything about that because dark and

2038
01:55:37,400 --> 01:55:40,880
Speaker 1: dark and rainy and cold. Ums when we got that

2039
01:55:40,920 --> 01:55:44,280
Speaker 1: really nasty snowstorm, right, you guys were like, coming back

2040
01:55:44,440 --> 01:55:47,760
Speaker 1: is Tuesday night? I don't know in the world. Yeah,

2041
01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:52,600
Speaker 1: I was out of service. Have you been on to

2042
01:55:52,600 --> 01:55:57,240
Speaker 1: eating your deer yet? Yeah? So I've had um a

2043
01:55:57,240 --> 01:55:59,680
Speaker 1: bunch of the back leg and then I had the tongue.

2044
01:56:00,480 --> 01:56:03,080
Speaker 1: Did you Um, did you bring any of it to

2045
01:56:03,120 --> 01:56:08,160
Speaker 1: the holiday party? No? I brought potatoes. Potatoes. Those were good.

2046
01:56:08,280 --> 01:56:11,640
Speaker 1: So you had the tongue in some of the back leg? Yep?

2047
01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:15,320
Speaker 1: When you like when you leave for work in the morning,

2048
01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:20,080
Speaker 1: do you pull some out to thought? Yeah? Exactly. Um,

2049
01:56:20,160 --> 01:56:22,120
Speaker 1: I'll just I just try and plan ahead a little bit.

2050
01:56:22,160 --> 01:56:24,560
Speaker 1: Have you shared it with your friends? Uh? No, not yet.

2051
01:56:24,600 --> 01:56:26,800
Speaker 1: I really haven't been around so it's like I got

2052
01:56:26,840 --> 01:56:30,280
Speaker 1: that deer. I left town like two days later and

2053
01:56:30,320 --> 01:56:33,040
Speaker 1: then was gone for all the week of Thanksgiving, came back,

2054
01:56:33,080 --> 01:56:36,120
Speaker 1: went to Michigan. So this is my first week in Montana,

2055
01:56:36,440 --> 01:56:38,520
Speaker 1: and so I just I haven't had time to really

2056
01:56:38,520 --> 01:56:40,560
Speaker 1: share anything. You didn't bring. You didn't bring you to

2057
01:56:40,600 --> 01:56:44,160
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving dinner. I mean to bring home some for Christmas. Yeah,

2058
01:56:45,240 --> 01:56:49,800
Speaker 1: the backstrap good deal? Um, and you think you might

2059
01:56:49,840 --> 01:56:53,880
Speaker 1: give something to some friends possibly, Yeah, Well I'm bring

2060
01:56:53,920 --> 01:56:56,480
Speaker 1: something else to give it to your friends. Well, I'm

2061
01:56:56,480 --> 01:56:58,560
Speaker 1: gonna make jerky. That's my plan this weekend is to

2062
01:56:58,560 --> 01:57:02,760
Speaker 1: make some jerky. I got brothers the hydrator, and um,

2063
01:57:03,080 --> 01:57:05,520
Speaker 1: can I steal that meat slicer in the kitchen for

2064
01:57:05,560 --> 01:57:09,040
Speaker 1: a weekend? You think it's not necessary, but sure? Can

2065
01:57:09,080 --> 01:57:11,440
Speaker 1: I slice it super thin? I guess with my own knife? Yeah,

2066
01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:13,760
Speaker 1: what you want to do is put a partial freeze

2067
01:57:13,800 --> 01:57:17,680
Speaker 1: on it. Yeah, okay, let's set up and slice away.

2068
01:57:18,400 --> 01:57:19,440
Speaker 1: You don't need to do that, but you can get

2069
01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:21,880
Speaker 1: some nice slices like that. It makes it easier. It's

2070
01:57:21,880 --> 01:57:25,280
Speaker 1: a lot easier to handle with the grain or against

2071
01:57:25,320 --> 01:57:28,000
Speaker 1: the grain. I don't know what should I do. Pants

2072
01:57:28,040 --> 01:57:32,480
Speaker 1: Man traditional jerky's with the grain really chewy? H What

2073
01:57:32,560 --> 01:57:37,240
Speaker 1: do you like with okay? Where you like Johnnie across

2074
01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:41,480
Speaker 1: the grain because it's it's easier to choose. Yeah, I

2075
01:57:41,480 --> 01:57:43,320
Speaker 1: should say like, I like it all, man, I like

2076
01:57:43,640 --> 01:57:45,960
Speaker 1: it's very different experience. Like you you're gonna have a

2077
01:57:46,000 --> 01:57:48,840
Speaker 1: less of a cud. You have less of a cud

2078
01:57:48,880 --> 01:57:52,280
Speaker 1: when you go across. You can work up pretty good

2079
01:57:52,320 --> 01:57:54,760
Speaker 1: cud when you go with if there especially, you leave

2080
01:57:54,760 --> 01:58:00,200
Speaker 1: a lot of Sydney. But somebody likes, oh you don't

2081
01:58:00,000 --> 01:58:07,320
Speaker 1: want you don't want cuts. Yeah, you're jerky in a while, lady.

2082
01:58:07,320 --> 01:58:11,560
Speaker 1: You got like a peace size hung white yeah and

2083
01:58:11,600 --> 01:58:14,000
Speaker 1: stretched out and it's like a big ball piece of thread.

2084
01:58:14,040 --> 01:58:23,720
Speaker 1: Yeah that's the cud. Yeah, so I'll go across the yeah, yeah, yeah.

2085
01:58:23,760 --> 01:58:26,400
Speaker 1: We've had this conversation before. A lot of jerky now

2086
01:58:26,480 --> 01:58:30,280
Speaker 1: and gas stations is um. You know, there's whole muscle jerky,

2087
01:58:30,280 --> 01:58:33,600
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of jerky that's that's ground. You know.

2088
01:58:33,720 --> 01:58:36,920
Speaker 1: You remember your brother recently started doing that. I thought

2089
01:58:37,000 --> 01:58:39,280
Speaker 1: that stuff was good. Nothing wrong with it, man, nothing

2090
01:58:39,280 --> 01:58:43,040
Speaker 1: wrong with it. No cud. It's easy to chew. But

2091
01:58:43,400 --> 01:58:45,840
Speaker 1: like you know, I don't know, man, like for me,

2092
01:58:45,920 --> 01:58:47,760
Speaker 1: if I had like one jerky, the rest of my

2093
01:58:47,800 --> 01:58:52,640
Speaker 1: life's gonna be jerky. That's hole muscle with the grain,

2094
01:58:53,040 --> 01:58:56,360
Speaker 1: and it's like a chaw to it. Yeah, you grabbing

2095
01:58:56,840 --> 01:59:03,640
Speaker 1: You like dry, pretty moist? Yeah, I like a good

2096
01:59:03,680 --> 01:59:06,640
Speaker 1: tacky jerky. Yeah, he doesn't me and I do not

2097
01:59:06,640 --> 01:59:09,200
Speaker 1: see eye on jerky. No, I like that. I like

2098
01:59:09,280 --> 01:59:11,840
Speaker 1: the attacky jerky too. I used to do like a

2099
01:59:12,560 --> 01:59:15,480
Speaker 1: I call them like jerky tidbits, and they're more just

2100
01:59:15,560 --> 01:59:19,160
Speaker 1: like chunks, you know, like bacon ends, but jerky. Yeah,

2101
01:59:19,240 --> 01:59:21,240
Speaker 1: but maybe a little bit bigger, you know. But you

2102
01:59:21,240 --> 01:59:23,640
Speaker 1: have to be real careful because if you over dried them,

2103
01:59:23,680 --> 01:59:26,240
Speaker 1: you know, you just did it just wasn't edible at all.

2104
01:59:26,840 --> 01:59:29,400
Speaker 1: But then sometimes I'd have them in my pack for

2105
01:59:29,440 --> 01:59:30,840
Speaker 1: like a week and you pull them out and you

2106
01:59:30,840 --> 01:59:33,360
Speaker 1: realize that you didn't actually dry all everything out that

2107
01:59:33,440 --> 01:59:35,120
Speaker 1: needed to come out, you know, so you have like

2108
01:59:35,120 --> 01:59:39,440
Speaker 1: a little just a little pungent smell in there. The

2109
01:59:39,560 --> 01:59:41,720
Speaker 1: clients would be like, are you sure this is okay

2110
01:59:41,720 --> 01:59:47,720
Speaker 1: to eat? Well? One thing about when you do with grain,

2111
01:59:48,160 --> 01:59:51,600
Speaker 1: with grain cut and you're drying it, don't dry it

2112
01:59:51,680 --> 01:59:54,120
Speaker 1: so much that it snaps what you want to do

2113
01:59:54,320 --> 01:59:57,400
Speaker 1: is dry it till when you bend it you'll see

2114
01:59:57,560 --> 02:00:02,920
Speaker 1: little white filaments. Okay, you bend it, there's white filaments

2115
02:00:03,040 --> 02:00:07,760
Speaker 1: and no snap. That's what you're after when you do

2116
02:00:08,040 --> 02:00:10,000
Speaker 1: cross green. I don't know what what's your indicator when

2117
02:00:10,000 --> 02:00:13,440
Speaker 1: you cross green, it's similar you kind of banded. It

2118
02:00:13,520 --> 02:00:16,360
Speaker 1: shouldn't go like if it snaps like a chip, that's

2119
02:00:16,360 --> 02:00:18,240
Speaker 1: not good. Yeah. And the only thing I find a

2120
02:00:18,240 --> 02:00:22,360
Speaker 1: lot of people screw up is um, there's jerky and

2121
02:00:22,400 --> 02:00:25,120
Speaker 1: then there's cooked meat. And I've had a lot of

2122
02:00:25,160 --> 02:00:30,640
Speaker 1: guys give me jerky. That's not jerky. It's like roasted.

2123
02:00:31,400 --> 02:00:34,400
Speaker 1: It's just different. You know what I'm saying. It's just different. Man.

2124
02:00:35,040 --> 02:00:37,600
Speaker 1: I've eaten many pounds of it, and I've made many

2125
02:00:37,600 --> 02:00:40,400
Speaker 1: pounds of it, which is like it's just like yeah,

2126
02:00:40,400 --> 02:00:45,480
Speaker 1: you kind of cooked little thin. Yeah, but just like

2127
02:00:45,880 --> 02:00:50,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, it's just not jerky's. These

2128
02:00:50,040 --> 02:00:52,880
Speaker 1: are all very useful tips things. Guys. You get that

2129
02:00:52,880 --> 02:00:54,440
Speaker 1: when you do in your oven and when you're doing

2130
02:00:54,520 --> 02:00:55,880
Speaker 1: your smoke or you know what I mean, Like, am

2131
02:00:55,880 --> 02:00:58,840
Speaker 1: I describing it right? Yeah? Yeah, I mean there's a

2132
02:00:58,960 --> 02:01:04,840
Speaker 1: big difference. And you know it dried meat and cook meat. Um,

2133
02:01:04,920 --> 02:01:08,040
Speaker 1: so is Katie going to go out with cal She

2134
02:01:08,080 --> 02:01:14,440
Speaker 1: doesn't want to hold me. I really understand. It's insulting

2135
02:01:14,480 --> 02:01:16,440
Speaker 1: to me. We're talking about my wife. It's insulting to me,

2136
02:01:16,480 --> 02:01:18,600
Speaker 1: and I don't really understand it. I don't think it's

2137
02:01:18,600 --> 02:01:21,320
Speaker 1: a good idea for two people who are in that

2138
02:01:21,400 --> 02:01:24,680
Speaker 1: close of a relationship where you are the expert and

2139
02:01:24,720 --> 02:01:28,240
Speaker 1: the other person is the novice beginner and it's like

2140
02:01:28,280 --> 02:01:32,240
Speaker 1: a personal relationship. I think that's a terrible idea. I

2141
02:01:32,240 --> 02:01:34,080
Speaker 1: don't think it has anything to do with you, Steve.

2142
02:01:34,160 --> 02:01:36,520
Speaker 1: I think it has to do with the fact that

2143
02:01:36,520 --> 02:01:42,400
Speaker 1: that dynamic would be challenging. Couldn't disagree more. It's tough

2144
02:01:42,440 --> 02:01:44,880
Speaker 1: because you think that people in relationship that should be

2145
02:01:44,920 --> 02:01:51,000
Speaker 1: able to overcome whatever we've had. We've had three kids, Sure,

2146
02:01:51,160 --> 02:01:54,440
Speaker 1: you married eleven years. What's going to ruin at all?

2147
02:01:55,800 --> 02:01:59,760
Speaker 1: It's not about at all. It's about having a different

2148
02:02:00,280 --> 02:02:02,360
Speaker 1: of patience. I mean, even when I was learning to

2149
02:02:02,440 --> 02:02:05,480
Speaker 1: fly fish and Jeremiah would teach me there's a block.

2150
02:02:06,000 --> 02:02:09,520
Speaker 1: You don't want to be open minded to your significant other.

2151
02:02:09,720 --> 02:02:16,320
Speaker 1: Who So that's that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, Like

2152
02:02:16,360 --> 02:02:18,320
Speaker 1: we're like we're married, but in a lot of ways

2153
02:02:18,360 --> 02:02:25,920
Speaker 1: we're like enemies. Is married enemies? Where should we put um?

2154
02:02:27,000 --> 02:02:29,440
Speaker 1: Like I recently got that fifty pound block of lard,

2155
02:02:30,400 --> 02:02:32,640
Speaker 1: my fifty pound box a blard. Okay, I didn't know

2156
02:02:32,640 --> 02:02:36,120
Speaker 1: about that, like very m real enemy. We're real enemies

2157
02:02:36,160 --> 02:02:39,000
Speaker 1: about where I keep that? Where would she like you

2158
02:02:39,040 --> 02:02:42,360
Speaker 1: to keep it? Not where I keep it anywhere else

2159
02:02:42,520 --> 02:02:46,520
Speaker 1: on the counter. She just can't picture it being gone,

2160
02:02:47,760 --> 02:02:49,600
Speaker 1: so she suggested I moved it to the place I

2161
02:02:49,640 --> 02:02:55,280
Speaker 1: don't want to have it. Yeah, viewer like like she's

2162
02:02:55,320 --> 02:02:59,200
Speaker 1: my like like in regards of my block lard, I

2163
02:02:59,400 --> 02:03:02,600
Speaker 1: have like a very enemy feeling toward her, like my

2164
02:03:02,600 --> 02:03:07,320
Speaker 1: my adversary about my large because when she approached me

2165
02:03:07,360 --> 02:03:11,440
Speaker 1: about it, she didn't approach me as a friend. It

2166
02:03:11,560 --> 02:03:14,160
Speaker 1: wasn't like, hey, buddy, I've been thinking about the box

2167
02:03:14,160 --> 02:03:18,440
Speaker 1: of large. Wasn't like that I knowed by that box

2168
02:03:18,480 --> 02:03:22,880
Speaker 1: a large and give it a smack. You know that

2169
02:03:22,960 --> 02:03:25,560
Speaker 1: pack that plastic stuff you used to like tight wrap

2170
02:03:25,600 --> 02:03:29,200
Speaker 1: stuff like to ship stuff. Yeah, the box was compromised,

2171
02:03:29,200 --> 02:03:32,800
Speaker 1: and I know I took that shipping wrap and wrapped that.

2172
02:03:32,920 --> 02:03:36,360
Speaker 1: It's like tight in a drum man. But it's like, yeah,

2173
02:03:36,680 --> 02:03:39,200
Speaker 1: Kylie had a morbid fascination with that box when it

2174
02:03:39,280 --> 02:03:46,120
Speaker 1: showed up. Yeah, fascination. Ye didn't she didn't like it,

2175
02:03:46,200 --> 02:03:48,880
Speaker 1: but she couldn't keep away from it. And throughout the

2176
02:03:48,880 --> 02:03:50,840
Speaker 1: course of the day and not ten minutes went by

2177
02:03:50,880 --> 02:03:53,000
Speaker 1: that Kylie didn't come back over to my desk to

2178
02:03:53,080 --> 02:03:57,360
Speaker 1: look into the come back over to my desk to

2179
02:03:57,480 --> 02:04:00,839
Speaker 1: look into it and express like a level of dismay

2180
02:04:00,880 --> 02:04:03,120
Speaker 1: about it. Did she go back to her She got

2181
02:04:03,160 --> 02:04:05,160
Speaker 1: back her desk, and it comments later I look at

2182
02:04:05,200 --> 02:04:09,960
Speaker 1: she's back looking into the box, and then she couldn't

2183
02:04:10,040 --> 02:04:14,840
Speaker 1: understand it. That's a lot, She's like, that weighs half

2184
02:04:14,840 --> 02:04:19,280
Speaker 1: what I went, let is so much? Lord, I was

2185
02:04:19,320 --> 02:04:20,800
Speaker 1: like after, I was like, Kylie, we all know what.

2186
02:04:20,800 --> 02:04:22,760
Speaker 1: You just want to have a scoop. Just have a scoop.

2187
02:04:24,280 --> 02:04:27,600
Speaker 1: Just throw the spoon in there. No, okay, Kylie's deer

2188
02:04:27,680 --> 02:04:32,480
Speaker 1: hunt when when hunting with my husband, But you've been

2189
02:04:32,520 --> 02:04:36,480
Speaker 1: a number of times you've been around it. Yeah, so

2190
02:04:36,560 --> 02:04:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm my husband hunts like I mean, all my my

2191
02:04:40,120 --> 02:04:44,720
Speaker 1: friend's hunt um. But then I've gone shooting um for

2192
02:04:44,840 --> 02:04:47,600
Speaker 1: many years but then just never actually hunted. How long

2193
02:04:47,640 --> 02:04:50,240
Speaker 1: ahead you done the hunter safety two years ago, and

2194
02:04:50,240 --> 02:04:53,280
Speaker 1: why did you do that? Before I turned thirty? My

2195
02:04:53,360 --> 02:04:57,000
Speaker 1: goal was to shoot an animal. Um, to go hunting

2196
02:04:57,040 --> 02:04:59,120
Speaker 1: for the first time ever. I'm from Montana, I should

2197
02:04:59,200 --> 02:05:02,760
Speaker 1: be doing this. Um. I went through hunter Safety, was

2198
02:05:02,920 --> 02:05:05,280
Speaker 1: very out of my comfort zone and very much at

2199
02:05:05,400 --> 02:05:08,560
Speaker 1: unter safety. Yeah. What didn't you like about it? I

2200
02:05:08,840 --> 02:05:11,360
Speaker 1: think just not knowing, like I think as a woman,

2201
02:05:11,480 --> 02:05:14,840
Speaker 1: like and sounds stupid, but like kind of going in there, Hi,

2202
02:05:15,120 --> 02:05:17,640
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what I'm doing, per se, And

2203
02:05:17,680 --> 02:05:20,360
Speaker 1: then um, you know, not knowing anyone, it feels like

2204
02:05:20,360 --> 02:05:22,560
Speaker 1: like swinging dick contest or just kind of like you

2205
02:05:22,640 --> 02:05:24,240
Speaker 1: just don't really know what you're supposed to do and

2206
02:05:24,280 --> 02:05:26,920
Speaker 1: you kind of feel dumb. But but I went through it,

2207
02:05:27,000 --> 02:05:29,520
Speaker 1: and then I didn't really tell anyone. Do you feel

2208
02:05:29,520 --> 02:05:31,800
Speaker 1: like you're made to feel dumb? Or was this self imposed?

2209
02:05:31,800 --> 02:05:36,480
Speaker 1: Self imposed? For sure? Um? No? And then I, um,

2210
02:05:36,680 --> 02:05:38,840
Speaker 1: just over time, I haven't been able to go. And

2211
02:05:38,840 --> 02:05:41,320
Speaker 1: then this year I had the opportunity to go. My

2212
02:05:41,400 --> 02:05:45,200
Speaker 1: husband and I went, Um, is he pretty patient? Super patient?

2213
02:05:45,320 --> 02:05:47,720
Speaker 1: Had he already gotten a dear? No? He mean this

2214
02:05:47,840 --> 02:05:49,200
Speaker 1: was like for me, Like, I mean, he was like

2215
02:05:49,200 --> 02:05:50,880
Speaker 1: I'm going to go for you. I'm going to be

2216
02:05:50,920 --> 02:05:53,240
Speaker 1: a partner. I mean he got everything set up. He

2217
02:05:53,440 --> 02:05:56,280
Speaker 1: wasn't even like trying to get one too. No, this

2218
02:05:56,360 --> 02:05:59,520
Speaker 1: was a mean thing for sure, and like he I

2219
02:05:59,560 --> 02:06:03,240
Speaker 1: mean it was very much a UM yeah, I think

2220
02:06:03,280 --> 02:06:05,000
Speaker 1: I was like when we talk about couples, I think

2221
02:06:05,040 --> 02:06:07,240
Speaker 1: it's there is I think sometimes in a couple that

2222
02:06:07,280 --> 02:06:09,760
Speaker 1: you do want to fight, like what are you doing wrong?

2223
02:06:09,800 --> 02:06:12,640
Speaker 1: You know? But I think that you you also you

2224
02:06:12,720 --> 02:06:15,800
Speaker 1: love that person, so you also understand like okay, why

2225
02:06:16,040 --> 02:06:18,000
Speaker 1: you know he did at one point. So I will

2226
02:06:18,040 --> 02:06:21,600
Speaker 1: tell you. I choked twice. I couldn't get at two bucks,

2227
02:06:21,600 --> 02:06:24,000
Speaker 1: two different bucks, and I couldn't shoot just kind of

2228
02:06:24,080 --> 02:06:26,400
Speaker 1: first time you went, yeah, the first time I went

2229
02:06:26,840 --> 02:06:29,360
Speaker 1: got it like I mean, huge buck, just staring at it.

2230
02:06:29,400 --> 02:06:32,040
Speaker 1: Couldn't do it. I have no not a clue why,

2231
02:06:32,280 --> 02:06:35,280
Speaker 1: like just I mean it was just right there, um

2232
02:06:35,560 --> 02:06:38,480
Speaker 1: happen again and I was I was super mad at myself.

2233
02:06:38,720 --> 02:06:41,720
Speaker 1: Um that I think the emotional part. I think when

2234
02:06:41,800 --> 02:06:44,800
Speaker 1: they talk about the emotions afterwards, I think my emotion

2235
02:06:45,400 --> 02:06:48,960
Speaker 1: was then I was frustrated with myself. Um, I think

2236
02:06:49,000 --> 02:06:50,760
Speaker 1: you just don't want to hurt the animal. I mean

2237
02:06:50,800 --> 02:06:53,520
Speaker 1: that was I think everything that you think about what

2238
02:06:53,560 --> 02:06:56,080
Speaker 1: Tracy was saying, and all the girls like you don't

2239
02:06:56,480 --> 02:06:58,200
Speaker 1: don't want it to go run off and if they

2240
02:06:58,240 --> 02:07:02,920
Speaker 1: heard or anything so running all the all the negative scenarios,

2241
02:07:03,240 --> 02:07:04,720
Speaker 1: and I think when we were kind of talking about

2242
02:07:04,720 --> 02:07:07,440
Speaker 1: like that right when you have an insight in that trigger,

2243
02:07:07,600 --> 02:07:11,440
Speaker 1: it's just like that's such a a different feeling that

2244
02:07:11,480 --> 02:07:13,600
Speaker 1: I've never felt before. I can't put the bullet back

2245
02:07:13,640 --> 02:07:17,160
Speaker 1: into gun. So that one that was really frustrating. So

2246
02:07:17,240 --> 02:07:19,160
Speaker 1: at one point my husband did say he was like

2247
02:07:19,720 --> 02:07:22,360
Speaker 1: kind of like what's wrong or like he's like for you, like,

2248
02:07:22,400 --> 02:07:25,000
Speaker 1: are you not set up right? You know what in

2249
02:07:25,000 --> 02:07:28,680
Speaker 1: your head is compassionate? Yeah, like what what can we do?

2250
02:07:29,400 --> 02:07:31,280
Speaker 1: The way of doing it? Yeah, flip it. I mean,

2251
02:07:31,280 --> 02:07:33,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure he was frustrated to pursue the same thing,

2252
02:07:33,960 --> 02:07:38,040
Speaker 1: but act like you're more concerned about them. Yeah, take note.

2253
02:07:38,720 --> 02:07:43,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if acting um yeah. And then do

2254
02:07:43,240 --> 02:07:44,680
Speaker 1: you guys have a little bit you know what I'm

2255
02:07:44,720 --> 02:07:46,400
Speaker 1: talking about a little bit like the enemy nous about

2256
02:07:46,400 --> 02:07:49,600
Speaker 1: stuff now? And then oh we fight, we used to

2257
02:07:49,640 --> 02:07:55,800
Speaker 1: fight all so um no, And then it was I

2258
02:07:55,840 --> 02:08:00,760
Speaker 1: was coming up on like it was that he got

2259
02:08:00,800 --> 02:08:02,360
Speaker 1: some trick up your sleeve. Then all of a sudden,

2260
02:08:02,360 --> 02:08:05,720
Speaker 1: you quit fighting eleven years. I don't know, just kind of, Oh,

2261
02:08:05,760 --> 02:08:08,560
Speaker 1: he just got it out of the way. Nothing to

2262
02:08:08,560 --> 02:08:12,200
Speaker 1: fight about it. You has fought it all out. Now

2263
02:08:12,240 --> 02:08:17,400
Speaker 1: you're just like every news resolved, the lard goes over there.

2264
02:08:19,040 --> 02:08:23,040
Speaker 1: There's something to be said for that. What's that? My

2265
02:08:23,120 --> 02:08:26,240
Speaker 1: father in law recently, it wasn't recent, maybe a year

2266
02:08:26,280 --> 02:08:28,520
Speaker 1: ago now, but I remember him telling my daughter. She

2267
02:08:28,680 --> 02:08:31,480
Speaker 1: was asking she had somehow noticed something about his lack

2268
02:08:31,560 --> 02:08:35,840
Speaker 1: of anger with people whatever, and he was just telling

2269
02:08:35,880 --> 02:08:38,640
Speaker 1: her about how in his age, he's sort of just

2270
02:08:38,760 --> 02:08:43,440
Speaker 1: like giving up on fighting the Randy Randy Newbert piece

2271
02:08:43,520 --> 02:08:46,000
Speaker 1: not justice, yeah, but not necessarily with his wife, just

2272
02:08:46,040 --> 02:08:48,640
Speaker 1: like with anybody in life. He's just like, I just

2273
02:08:48,680 --> 02:08:51,040
Speaker 1: don't have time to do that, and he's just taking like,

2274
02:08:51,320 --> 02:08:57,640
Speaker 1: oh is that right? Yeah, you don't say um piece

2275
02:08:57,760 --> 02:09:00,760
Speaker 1: not justice thing though. That's that's I don't know if

2276
02:09:00,760 --> 02:09:02,680
Speaker 1: he wrote that. I made that up, but he introduced

2277
02:09:02,720 --> 02:09:06,600
Speaker 1: me to that idea. Like obviously sometimes strangled my wife,

2278
02:09:06,640 --> 02:09:08,680
Speaker 1: you know, and I'll just be like just snuggle up instead.

2279
02:09:11,480 --> 02:09:19,320
Speaker 1: How who cares? Then? I was gonna strangle you about.

2280
02:09:22,200 --> 02:09:25,840
Speaker 1: So he's a good dude. Good dude. And then on

2281
02:09:26,200 --> 02:09:30,040
Speaker 1: Saturday night, right before like season end, and Sunday, Saturday

2282
02:09:30,120 --> 02:09:32,520
Speaker 1: night at five o'clock at night, it's going it's dark,

2283
02:09:32,680 --> 02:09:36,120
Speaker 1: like Sam had um, it's negative degrees and what do

2284
02:09:36,160 --> 02:09:37,840
Speaker 1: you know, it's the last day of the season. Yeah.

2285
02:09:38,240 --> 02:09:45,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So I talked about across there's a creek

2286
02:09:45,720 --> 02:09:47,600
Speaker 1: and we saw like I looked over and in the

2287
02:09:47,640 --> 02:09:50,080
Speaker 1: fog there was a couple of different deer and I

2288
02:09:50,120 --> 02:09:52,080
Speaker 1: saw dough and I saw a buck as just a

2289
02:09:52,120 --> 02:09:57,000
Speaker 1: small little buck um. And I didn't like usually I

2290
02:09:57,080 --> 02:09:59,240
Speaker 1: was like really hesitant beforehand, and this was just such

2291
02:09:59,280 --> 02:10:03,600
Speaker 1: a very perfect, like normal feeling. Um. And then I

2292
02:10:03,640 --> 02:10:07,080
Speaker 1: shot and I saw some like go like move, so

2293
02:10:07,120 --> 02:10:09,720
Speaker 1: I didn't think I shot it um. And then my

2294
02:10:09,840 --> 02:10:13,640
Speaker 1: husband actually I got lost there, so I like I

2295
02:10:13,680 --> 02:10:16,520
Speaker 1: saw them across the creek in the fog, and I shot,

2296
02:10:17,200 --> 02:10:20,000
Speaker 1: and then okay, I need more details. He is your

2297
02:10:20,040 --> 02:10:23,640
Speaker 1: husband watching too, Yeah, but there was he didn't have

2298
02:10:23,640 --> 02:10:25,720
Speaker 1: any feedback for you know, there was oh yeah, there

2299
02:10:25,760 --> 02:10:28,000
Speaker 1: was a couple of deer, like we didn't know behind

2300
02:10:28,680 --> 02:10:31,080
Speaker 1: that it was all foggy. So I just saw the

2301
02:10:31,160 --> 02:10:33,960
Speaker 1: one buck and I shot. But then when we when

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02:10:34,000 --> 02:10:37,360
Speaker 1: I shot, it was like all the other deer. Oh yeah,

2303
02:10:37,360 --> 02:10:38,600
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. So then it's hard to

2304
02:10:38,600 --> 02:10:41,160
Speaker 1: tell what exactly I'm with you. So then he ran

2305
02:10:41,280 --> 02:10:43,760
Speaker 1: over across the creek, and then I didn't think I

2306
02:10:43,840 --> 02:10:46,200
Speaker 1: hit it, and then um, he ran over to investigate.

2307
02:10:46,480 --> 02:10:48,720
Speaker 1: And then I got it so right in the lungs,

2308
02:10:48,800 --> 02:10:53,280
Speaker 1: which was perfect of exactly what I wanted it. And

2309
02:10:53,360 --> 02:10:56,560
Speaker 1: then he carried it, carried it over because he drained

2310
02:10:56,560 --> 02:10:59,360
Speaker 1: it back across the creek, and I wanted to same

2311
02:10:59,400 --> 02:11:01,240
Speaker 1: exactly a and like I wanted to be able to

2312
02:11:01,280 --> 02:11:03,680
Speaker 1: gut it um and go through that. I watched it,

2313
02:11:03,760 --> 02:11:05,840
Speaker 1: but because it was dark, I mean he had the

2314
02:11:06,040 --> 02:11:08,280
Speaker 1: you know light on, I mean it was I didn't

2315
02:11:08,320 --> 02:11:13,440
Speaker 1: feel comfortable. Temperature. Not great learning, but next time I

2316
02:11:13,480 --> 02:11:15,840
Speaker 1: would like to learn next time for sure, any emotions

2317
02:11:16,480 --> 02:11:21,640
Speaker 1: just before just I think just when shooting and not

2318
02:11:21,640 --> 02:11:23,680
Speaker 1: not being able to for sure, I think, yeah, I

2319
02:11:23,680 --> 02:11:25,680
Speaker 1: think that first time that you went out, you had

2320
02:11:26,360 --> 02:11:29,200
Speaker 1: very frustrated, Like she texted me and she was just like,

2321
02:11:29,440 --> 02:11:32,720
Speaker 1: I can't believe I didn't shoot it, and I won't

2322
02:11:32,800 --> 02:11:35,520
Speaker 1: take that for the next time because you will. Yeah,

2323
02:11:36,840 --> 02:11:39,960
Speaker 1: like you had like later you you thought to yourself

2324
02:11:40,040 --> 02:11:42,440
Speaker 1: like that was a great opportunity. I blew it and yeah,

2325
02:11:42,520 --> 02:11:44,480
Speaker 1: I mean it was literally like I was looking straight

2326
02:11:44,520 --> 02:11:46,720
Speaker 1: at him right in the scope. He was huge. I mean,

2327
02:11:46,760 --> 02:11:48,760
Speaker 1: it was just that he was just staring at me,

2328
02:11:48,840 --> 02:11:50,640
Speaker 1: and I couldn't for the life when we do it

2329
02:11:51,160 --> 02:11:54,520
Speaker 1: no idea. Why so, Um, did you guys bring into

2330
02:11:54,560 --> 02:11:58,560
Speaker 1: a processor? Yep, so you gotta get it out and

2331
02:11:58,600 --> 02:12:00,560
Speaker 1: then so we're just waiting for it to process and

2332
02:12:00,600 --> 02:12:02,240
Speaker 1: you go pick it up. Do you guys eat a

2333
02:12:02,240 --> 02:12:04,520
Speaker 1: lot of dear meat? Because he also, yeah, I used

2334
02:12:04,560 --> 02:12:07,360
Speaker 1: to do a lot a lot of elk meat. Okay, yeah,

2335
02:12:07,400 --> 02:12:11,520
Speaker 1: so game meat. So your husband likes to hunt elk any,

2336
02:12:11,600 --> 02:12:13,680
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, he's did it. Um, he grew up

2337
02:12:13,720 --> 02:12:18,080
Speaker 1: with it for doing all dear anything from here, so

2338
02:12:18,120 --> 02:12:22,160
Speaker 1: he's probably got a long tradition of it. And then, um,

2339
02:12:22,720 --> 02:12:24,160
Speaker 1: you you can eat it right away or like he'll

2340
02:12:24,160 --> 02:12:26,400
Speaker 1: take a year to eat it. I would like to

2341
02:12:26,400 --> 02:12:28,640
Speaker 1: try to eat it right away for sure. You know,

2342
02:12:28,640 --> 02:12:35,560
Speaker 1: only good wild game cookbooks. No, I mean I think

2343
02:12:35,640 --> 02:12:37,200
Speaker 1: we work at this place. I don't know. I'm called

2344
02:12:37,240 --> 02:12:42,800
Speaker 1: meat eat or but I know that to call that

2345
02:12:42,880 --> 02:12:46,960
Speaker 1: Hank shot cook. Look last night, Oh you did any

2346
02:12:47,000 --> 02:12:49,880
Speaker 1: good recipes in there? I didn't open it. I don't

2347
02:12:49,880 --> 02:12:52,880
Speaker 1: think I was in the stage of reading last night.

2348
02:12:53,360 --> 02:12:55,440
Speaker 1: You know what boats someone left my house last night

2349
02:12:55,440 --> 02:12:57,760
Speaker 1: that my kid wants so bad but and he I

2350
02:12:57,800 --> 02:12:59,480
Speaker 1: told him he could steal it, but my wife wants

2351
02:12:59,520 --> 02:13:02,720
Speaker 1: to track on its rightful owner. Is a book called

2352
02:13:02,800 --> 02:13:10,320
Speaker 1: Crap Taxidermy. It's a book, a horrible tax Yeah. Um,

2353
02:13:10,440 --> 02:13:12,160
Speaker 1: he took it, wanted to take the school, and I

2354
02:13:12,160 --> 02:13:13,640
Speaker 1: said We'll go ahead because if someone left it here

2355
02:13:13,680 --> 02:13:15,120
Speaker 1: they might not want it. And Kat is like they

2356
02:13:15,200 --> 02:13:16,680
Speaker 1: might have just left it. And then we got to

2357
02:13:16,720 --> 02:13:19,760
Speaker 1: like have a parenting moment where I'm like, yeah, you

2358
02:13:19,840 --> 02:13:26,560
Speaker 1: m right. It's a great title, Crap Taxidermy. He really

2359
02:13:26,600 --> 02:13:28,840
Speaker 1: likes the title. I think he wants to brand at

2360
02:13:28,880 --> 02:13:36,320
Speaker 1: the school because he likes the title. Someone great. So, uh,

2361
02:13:36,360 --> 02:13:41,040
Speaker 1: everybody gonna hunt again or no? Definitely? What do you

2362
02:13:41,080 --> 02:13:43,800
Speaker 1: think you go? Is Jeremiah going to take your boyfriend

2363
02:13:43,840 --> 02:13:45,520
Speaker 1: gonna take Hunter Safe? Yeah, we need to get it

2364
02:13:45,600 --> 02:13:48,400
Speaker 1: to take Hunter safety. Think you'll hunt together. I think

2365
02:13:48,440 --> 02:13:51,640
Speaker 1: we would totally hunt together. Your boyfriend, Ye, he'll do

2366
02:13:51,720 --> 02:13:53,960
Speaker 1: hunter safety. Yep, we've talked about it. You think you

2367
02:13:54,120 --> 02:13:56,520
Speaker 1: hunt again? Yeah, hunt together? Yeah, I do think we

2368
02:13:56,520 --> 02:13:59,240
Speaker 1: would hunt together. I do. I think we figured out

2369
02:13:59,240 --> 02:14:02,920
Speaker 1: how to like be productive in those types of situations together. Yeah.

2370
02:14:03,080 --> 02:14:04,960
Speaker 1: You guys are gathering up rocks to make a chimney.

2371
02:14:05,000 --> 02:14:07,880
Speaker 1: Oh man, that's no small job. Oh, it's no small job, man.

2372
02:14:08,040 --> 02:14:11,640
Speaker 1: And every weekend, okay, it's rock picking time. It's like

2373
02:14:11,840 --> 02:14:14,680
Speaker 1: five loads later. We're fortunate enough of our neighbors are

2374
02:14:14,720 --> 02:14:16,360
Speaker 1: letting us take as much rock as we need off

2375
02:14:16,360 --> 02:14:18,800
Speaker 1: their land. It's like five loads later. I'm like, are

2376
02:14:18,800 --> 02:14:21,440
Speaker 1: we done for today? And you guys are palletizing the

2377
02:14:21,520 --> 02:14:23,280
Speaker 1: right Yeah, you pick up one by one. You got

2378
02:14:23,360 --> 02:14:25,240
Speaker 1: to clean them. You got to make sure that the

2379
02:14:25,360 --> 02:14:27,880
Speaker 1: right size, the right shape, they have the right amount

2380
02:14:27,920 --> 02:14:31,000
Speaker 1: of liking on them. It's just very diligent job. And

2381
02:14:31,000 --> 02:14:33,720
Speaker 1: then you put them on pallets by size so that

2382
02:14:33,760 --> 02:14:38,000
Speaker 1: our mason can work with them. And do you know

2383
02:14:38,000 --> 02:14:40,800
Speaker 1: about this rock picking, it's pretty impressive when you look

2384
02:14:40,840 --> 02:14:46,040
Speaker 1: at like the collection of palletized staffed rock. This moust

2385
02:14:46,080 --> 02:14:48,800
Speaker 1: be one hell of a chimney. Oh it sure, dam is.

2386
02:14:49,320 --> 02:14:52,920
Speaker 1: Hopefully it'll be the center of the house. It's like

2387
02:14:53,560 --> 02:14:56,400
Speaker 1: literally blood, sweat and tears, and there they were, just

2388
02:14:56,440 --> 02:15:00,000
Speaker 1: coming back from a rock picking. Yeah, like Kevis, that's

2389
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:03,000
Speaker 1: a great way to make a neighbor. Oh man, you're

2390
02:15:03,040 --> 02:15:06,080
Speaker 1: just doing it just to be helpful. But they've already

2391
02:15:06,160 --> 02:15:09,120
Speaker 1: gathered I mean they've lived there for forever, so that

2392
02:15:09,280 --> 02:15:12,360
Speaker 1: all their rock is in different piles across their entire lands.

2393
02:15:12,400 --> 02:15:15,960
Speaker 1: We go from power from the field. No, no, no,

2394
02:15:16,080 --> 02:15:20,520
Speaker 1: it's already said that they've gathered rocks. Yeah, it's kind

2395
02:15:20,520 --> 02:15:23,800
Speaker 1: of high grading. It's helpful for me. I'm just kidding.

2396
02:15:23,800 --> 02:15:27,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean I was thinking that those landowners. Listen,

2397
02:15:27,360 --> 02:15:31,400
Speaker 1: they have past your land, the picking raw rock. They

2398
02:15:31,400 --> 02:15:33,640
Speaker 1: would love you for sure, but they've already done all

2399
02:15:33,680 --> 02:15:39,440
Speaker 1: that work in the decades. Yeah, that's still a good story.

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02:15:39,720 --> 02:15:41,440
Speaker 1: I can't you can invite us all over to see

2401
02:15:41,440 --> 02:15:43,640
Speaker 1: the chimney. Well, yeah, finally have a place where people

2402
02:15:43,640 --> 02:15:45,680
Speaker 1: can sit. We live in seven square feet right now,

2403
02:15:45,760 --> 02:15:48,120
Speaker 1: I can't really have anybody over. She's got a horse

2404
02:15:48,160 --> 02:15:50,400
Speaker 1: property full of buildings and they live in a little apartment.

2405
02:15:51,880 --> 02:15:56,120
Speaker 1: Was horrified, just like everybody, look as a building. There

2406
02:15:56,120 --> 02:15:58,720
Speaker 1: are a lot of little units. Yeah, look at a building,

2407
02:15:58,720 --> 02:16:01,080
Speaker 1: but then you guys live in a frame thing above

2408
02:16:01,120 --> 02:16:04,320
Speaker 1: the barnes is funny. Yeah, one of those buildings isn't

2409
02:16:05,040 --> 02:16:09,120
Speaker 1: like a living structure. Someone on a building screen in

2410
02:16:09,240 --> 02:16:14,200
Speaker 1: and realized they hadn't built a place to sleep, and

2411
02:16:14,280 --> 02:16:17,560
Speaker 1: he was like, and you bought that place? Yeah, he's

2412
02:16:17,560 --> 02:16:22,120
Speaker 1: like I was forgetting some four barnes and no place

2413
02:16:22,160 --> 02:16:24,760
Speaker 1: to sleep. And Steve was like one days like where

2414
02:16:24,760 --> 02:16:29,240
Speaker 1: do you where do you keep all your clothes in

2415
02:16:29,400 --> 02:16:33,879
Speaker 1: one of the barns? Uh? So what Kevin? Real quick?

2416
02:16:33,920 --> 02:16:36,120
Speaker 1: What's um? What? What? What can we look ahead to?

2417
02:16:36,520 --> 02:16:38,080
Speaker 1: What was the next thing to come out cool at

2418
02:16:38,080 --> 02:16:42,840
Speaker 1: first lighting was Cow's prototype jacket? You got one too, Johnny?

2419
02:16:42,920 --> 02:16:46,840
Speaker 1: I think, can I tell people about um, I've been

2420
02:16:46,879 --> 02:16:50,440
Speaker 1: wearing a coat. Yeah, and there's a there's a thing

2421
02:16:50,480 --> 02:16:53,959
Speaker 1: about it that you would notice from the ways off. Yeah,

2422
02:16:54,240 --> 02:16:56,400
Speaker 1: we've been. We've been sharing that on social a little bit,

2423
02:16:56,440 --> 02:16:59,480
Speaker 1: I think a little bit. But I think to tell

2424
02:16:59,520 --> 02:17:01,280
Speaker 1: me what I'm talk well, I don't know if I

2425
02:17:01,360 --> 02:17:06,320
Speaker 1: can yet. The thing that starts with G Yeah, we haven't.

2426
02:17:06,760 --> 02:17:09,240
Speaker 1: We haven't technically released any of that stuff yet. You know,

2427
02:17:10,280 --> 02:17:12,920
Speaker 1: I think I have no doubt. Yeah, so you know

2428
02:17:13,000 --> 02:17:16,440
Speaker 1: you're not saying people, Oh there's a there's just you know,

2429
02:17:16,600 --> 02:17:19,959
Speaker 1: some teasers on social across the across the internets, little

2430
02:17:20,040 --> 02:17:23,959
Speaker 1: easter eggs. Yeah, exactly. We'll be releasing all that stuff

2431
02:17:24,000 --> 02:17:27,760
Speaker 1: the first part of January, so we're close. Folks gotta wait,

2432
02:17:27,800 --> 02:17:32,480
Speaker 1: like you know, couple when they hear this, uh, it'll

2433
02:17:32,520 --> 02:17:35,360
Speaker 1: be out. So just tell them, Oh, really, when's this

2434
02:17:35,480 --> 02:17:45,240
Speaker 1: coming out? January? Sometime people be all drunk. Yeah, the

2435
02:17:45,240 --> 02:17:47,360
Speaker 1: next day, wh everybody gets drunk. That's right. We're heading

2436
02:17:47,360 --> 02:17:48,880
Speaker 1: in the show season now, so we're gonna be all

2437
02:17:48,920 --> 02:17:53,879
Speaker 1: over the place wrapping the wares. Good. Oh, you know,

2438
02:17:53,920 --> 02:17:57,520
Speaker 1: we got a thing coming up. What's that? There's a

2439
02:17:57,560 --> 02:18:02,000
Speaker 1: sports show that's right in Portland, Portland, Oregon. Yeah, we'll

2440
02:18:02,040 --> 02:18:04,160
Speaker 1: be there. Yeah. Well we're going and doing a big,

2441
02:18:04,160 --> 02:18:13,200
Speaker 1: old gigantic book signing. Um me cal Sam, Sam, Danielle Nice. Yeah,

2442
02:18:13,640 --> 02:18:15,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to your booth. Are you gonna be there,

2443
02:18:15,600 --> 02:18:17,840
Speaker 1: I'll be there. Oh yeah, I'm going to everything. Man,

2444
02:18:18,400 --> 02:18:20,800
Speaker 1: I'll be traveling the country. You gotta pay for all

2445
02:18:20,800 --> 02:18:23,280
Speaker 1: that hunting. I know. It's uh. I looked at the

2446
02:18:23,320 --> 02:18:26,080
Speaker 1: schedule last week and it's a little daunting, but shows

2447
02:18:27,160 --> 02:18:28,840
Speaker 1: a lot of shaking hands. I'm into it though, would

2448
02:18:28,840 --> 02:18:34,520
Speaker 1: be fun. Get some hand sanitized, a lot of airports, airports, um,

2449
02:18:34,879 --> 02:18:37,360
Speaker 1: so people can find out what's happening there. Then yeah, yeah,

2450
02:18:37,400 --> 02:18:40,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna start releasing all this stuff for and um,

2451
02:18:40,200 --> 02:18:41,680
Speaker 1: a lot of good things in the works for sure.

2452
02:18:41,720 --> 02:18:44,720
Speaker 1: You guys had a great year, man, awesome year. Yeah,

2453
02:18:44,760 --> 02:18:48,080
Speaker 1: it's great year. First light dot com, first light dot com.

2454
02:18:48,160 --> 02:18:53,680
Speaker 1: Come check us out, big year, giant year. That's good man,

2455
02:18:53,720 --> 02:18:58,480
Speaker 1: it's exciting. Appreciate that enormous here. Yeah, trying to think

2456
02:18:58,560 --> 02:19:03,800
Speaker 1: up some more. It's you customer service because if you

2457
02:19:03,879 --> 02:19:06,240
Speaker 1: if you're kind of confused at first light dot com,

2458
02:19:06,320 --> 02:19:09,000
Speaker 1: there's a lot to take in. There are lots of layers.

2459
02:19:09,040 --> 02:19:12,280
Speaker 1: You can call and talk to an actual actual hum

2460
02:19:12,680 --> 02:19:16,680
Speaker 1: oh yeah, these human hunter hunter human and get some

2461
02:19:17,000 --> 02:19:20,680
Speaker 1: uh you know, yeah, they're like they're like the awesomest

2462
02:19:20,760 --> 02:19:23,840
Speaker 1: dudes are like, I've been fortunate enough to get there.

2463
02:19:23,879 --> 02:19:26,160
Speaker 1: They are some badass dudes and they get after to

2464
02:19:26,240 --> 02:19:27,600
Speaker 1: you know, like if you if you're at the office

2465
02:19:27,600 --> 02:19:29,800
Speaker 1: at five oh one, it's like the door swing and

2466
02:19:29,800 --> 02:19:31,840
Speaker 1: everybody's like out the door. You know, we got a

2467
02:19:31,879 --> 02:19:35,720
Speaker 1: guy that tries it because they're out honey. Oh, we

2468
02:19:35,800 --> 02:19:41,440
Speaker 1: got a guy that runs trail runs after in uh dude, yeah,

2469
02:19:41,560 --> 02:19:43,760
Speaker 1: oh he does. He'll leave the office in his trail

2470
02:19:43,840 --> 02:19:48,080
Speaker 1: running gear with a bow in hand, shut and run

2471
02:19:48,080 --> 02:19:50,120
Speaker 1: into his own and make it by the time that

2472
02:19:50,240 --> 02:19:53,640
Speaker 1: the Golden Hour is incredible. He's a machine. Oh yeah,

2473
02:19:55,600 --> 02:19:58,040
Speaker 1: I was privy to some. Um, I was privy to

2474
02:19:58,160 --> 02:20:02,800
Speaker 1: some like composite customer feedback stuff about first one showing

2475
02:20:02,800 --> 02:20:06,320
Speaker 1: me and people there's a universal thing of people describing

2476
02:20:07,080 --> 02:20:11,400
Speaker 1: um a aha moment around the customer service. Yeah. I

2477
02:20:11,400 --> 02:20:14,080
Speaker 1: think that is a pretty well well spread. Those guys

2478
02:20:14,080 --> 02:20:16,440
Speaker 1: are dialed and it's it's interesting too because a lot

2479
02:20:16,440 --> 02:20:20,240
Speaker 1: of in large companies, you fifty sixty people customer service.

2480
02:20:20,240 --> 02:20:23,280
Speaker 1: These guys are four to six dudes per day that

2481
02:20:23,560 --> 02:20:25,920
Speaker 1: use our stuff every day. You know, they're they're out

2482
02:20:25,920 --> 02:20:27,440
Speaker 1: in and every day. Whether it's skiing in the winter,

2483
02:20:27,760 --> 02:20:30,240
Speaker 1: elk cutting in the fall, duck hunting, whatever you name it,

2484
02:20:30,320 --> 02:20:32,720
Speaker 1: they're using it. So yelling at your wife, yeah, well,

2485
02:20:32,840 --> 02:20:35,360
Speaker 1: not a lot of married guys that yet. They're all

2486
02:20:35,400 --> 02:20:39,879
Speaker 1: single dudes running the hills. Mary did the woods. So

2487
02:20:39,920 --> 02:20:41,560
Speaker 1: they answered the phone and like, what exactly is the

2488
02:20:41,600 --> 02:20:48,360
Speaker 1: problem let me. That's right. It is a good trailer

2489
02:20:48,400 --> 02:20:54,640
Speaker 1: running stuff though too nice. Yeah, I wouldn't. Did you

2490
02:20:54,920 --> 02:20:57,240
Speaker 1: did you give Maggie temper? Maggie, we come from the

2491
02:20:57,280 --> 02:20:59,480
Speaker 1: same place we do. Oh so you help them out?

2492
02:21:00,280 --> 02:21:01,879
Speaker 1: You're throwing to him because you guys are from the

2493
02:21:01,879 --> 02:21:09,640
Speaker 1: same zone. We made the connection. Nice. The last question, Phil,

2494
02:21:09,640 --> 02:21:13,480
Speaker 1: you're getting all you getting jealous? Yeah? I think looking

2495
02:21:13,480 --> 02:21:15,520
Speaker 1: around this room, I am the only person in here

2496
02:21:16,160 --> 02:21:19,279
Speaker 1: who has yet to shoot a deer or gone hunting

2497
02:21:19,280 --> 02:21:21,440
Speaker 1: at all. Have you think about doing some hunters safety? Yeah? No,

2498
02:21:21,560 --> 02:21:23,560
Speaker 1: I think I think Ben, Ben, Ben and I are

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Speaker 1: going to do some stuff next year. So what do

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Speaker 1: you do the hunter safety soon? I think in the

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Speaker 1: next couple of months, hopefully if we can find a

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Speaker 1: there's a field day component that sounds like a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun. That's not a requirement, which okay, I didn't

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Speaker 1: mind all in one day. Oh no, the field day

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Speaker 1: is not required. So I think when I'm gonna throw

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Speaker 1: out on the table right now, is um should we

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Speaker 1: take bets on if Ben is going to be a

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Speaker 1: take your time or exactly what's the pro I think

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Speaker 1: you'll be worse than Steve. I think so I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: put my money on the most patient. I think Ben

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Speaker 1: is like, well, I've hunted with Bend until it's on.

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Speaker 1: He might have a little bit of a problem, like

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Speaker 1: we're going turkey hunting, he might shoot the turkey that

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Speaker 1: you might want to shoot. Yeah, this sounds a little

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Speaker 1: too specific. Patient, say you're spot anyway, so you'll do

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Speaker 1: hunter safety and you you'll get after it in the spring. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think so. I think that's a plan. I think

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Speaker 1: turkeys are an awesome way to immerse yourself into this world.

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Speaker 1: I feel grateful that that was my first introduction. It

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Speaker 1: primes you. Yeah, get a lot of encounters. Yes, alright, well, um,

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Speaker 1: when it happens, Phil, you'll be here anyway. Yeah, because

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Speaker 1: you're the engineer, whether you have to schedule, Um, okay

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Speaker 1: everyone until next year. Thank you, guys. Probably be that

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Speaker 1: good to have a show about everybody's second year. I'm

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Speaker 1: gant to think of something different. Well first, oh, i

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Speaker 1: think we're going in January. Actually, who me and Kyle

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Speaker 1: and Anna, this girl Anna are going I think so

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Speaker 1: let us know how it goes. I want to do

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Speaker 1: the Beaver thing. I can't even call this episode what

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Speaker 1: exactly is the problem. I would love to go beaver trapping.

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Speaker 1: Really yeah, that interests me. Dude, don't even worry about it.

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Speaker 1: I'll put you on the calendar. I would love to

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Speaker 1: do that. Good deal. Okay, thank you, thank you, thank you,