WEBVTT - Molto Ridicolo: Vincenzo Pipino

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio Zaren Elizabeth.

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<v Speaker 2>You know it's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, the reason I know this is because one of

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<v Speaker 4>our listeners was kind enough to share something that I

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<v Speaker 4>particularly the interns handed it to me and I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>that's not ridiculous, that's genius. But they said it's ridiculous,

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<v Speaker 4>so I'm gonna go with them. Listener Ryan M. Ratley

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<v Speaker 4>aka Boo Ratley. They wrote in a message to the Instagram,

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<v Speaker 4>I believe and said quote something ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>But not a crime.

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<v Speaker 4>There is a tree in Georgia that legally owns itself

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<v Speaker 4>and the eight foot area around it's right. The former

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<v Speaker 4>owner of the land had so many good childhood memories

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<v Speaker 4>under the tree that when he died, he willed the

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<v Speaker 4>tree to itself in an effort to preserve it. In

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen forty two, a storm blew it over, but someone

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<v Speaker 4>saved an acorn from the tree and planted it on

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<v Speaker 4>the spot as the sun of the old tree. The

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<v Speaker 4>new tree legally inherited the land. So there is a

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<v Speaker 4>tree that owns the land inherited from its father.

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<v Speaker 2>A tree that is incredible. That is so beautifully ridiculous,

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<v Speaker 2>and I love it so much.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to go around giving and bestowing legal rights

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<v Speaker 4>on trees and rocks at rivers. I'm going to become

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<v Speaker 4>a lawyer just so I can do Who sent this

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<v Speaker 4>to us?

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<v Speaker 3>Ryan Ratley? That was dope. You made both our days.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and yes, it is ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's also super awesome. That is ridiculously awesome. You

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<v Speaker 2>want to know what else is ridiculous? Oh yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>here for stealing art only to give it right back.

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<v Speaker 2>What this is ridiculous crime. I'm a podcast about absurd

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<v Speaker 2>and outrageous caper's heiss and cons. It's always ninety nine

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<v Speaker 2>percent murder free and one hundred percent ridiculous. You heard

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<v Speaker 2>that we don't like murder, No, we do not. We

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<v Speaker 2>like principled thieves.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we like someone who does it for the people.

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<v Speaker 2>I this guy I'm going to tell you about does

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<v Speaker 2>it for the people's erin does he? He he hates

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<v Speaker 2>murderous and he's a principled thief.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he may be one of my favorite crimers

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<v Speaker 2>we've had on here.

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<v Speaker 4>So really excited.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, when he was about eight years old, he committed

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<v Speaker 2>his first crime.

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<v Speaker 3>I like, when you start young, it tells me we're

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<v Speaker 3>in very I know, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight years old crime. So at the time, he was

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<v Speaker 2>tired of the jobs that he'd had.

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<v Speaker 3>Numerous jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>He worked in a morgue for a little.

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<v Speaker 4>Bit, for a little bit and age.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but he decided it wasn't for him. And then

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<v Speaker 2>he got a job working at a bakery. But he

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<v Speaker 2>kept eating all the baked goods.

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<v Speaker 4>Probably because he was angry child.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let him go. He got high on their supply.

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<v Speaker 2>So he retired from the traditional workforce in the age

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<v Speaker 2>of eight.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I thought he started carrying like hot rivets on

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<v Speaker 4>the still buildings. He got a hopper and he was

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<v Speaker 4>climbing up.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he retired, and then he turned to a life

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<v Speaker 2>of crime.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh good for him.

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<v Speaker 2>What was his first theft? He was walking by a

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<v Speaker 2>dairy and sitting, no, sitting outside, cattle rustler. Sitting outside

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<v Speaker 2>was a fifty liter milk tin, all right full and

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<v Speaker 2>that's like those.

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<v Speaker 3>Big old silver wants with a double handle.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, okay, I believe I will, said the boy,

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<v Speaker 2>or rather.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yes, I believe I will. In Italian, thank you, Elizabeth,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll be translating if you want.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a good time to tell you that this

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<v Speaker 2>takes place in Venice, Italy. Okay, yes, in nineteen fifty one.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I like you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's when he's eight years old. This is three years

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<v Speaker 2>after The Bicycle Thief.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, the movie Yeah totally and then really not

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<v Speaker 3>called it the Bicycle Thieves.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he grew up with the Thief and the bicycle

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<v Speaker 2>zikas the bicycle Thieves. I suppose you know that illustrated

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<v Speaker 2>the desk inspiration faced by Italians struggling in a war

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<v Speaker 2>torn So this little boy sees the milk rolls that

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<v Speaker 2>jug on home. When he gets to his house, his

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<v Speaker 2>mother takes one look at the jug and then starts

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<v Speaker 2>dividing it up with the neighbors. He gotta live.

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<v Speaker 4>They're in post war depressions.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just great, exactly. So the boy then smashed up

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<v Speaker 2>the tin and sold it for scrap like the kids, right.

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<v Speaker 2>This little boy was named Vincenzo Peppinocen Vincenzo. He was

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<v Speaker 2>born in nineteen forty three in Venice and after the war,

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<v Speaker 2>his dad worked as a ferry boat captain. There was

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<v Speaker 2>no money, that's.

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<v Speaker 3>What was morning.

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<v Speaker 4>Do they have any like a tourist economy.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, just rebuilding.

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<v Speaker 3>So they're doing the lace and moving boats around.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they over on Burano, they had they had a

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<v Speaker 2>really rough go of it. So Vincenzo starts stealing. This

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<v Speaker 2>is how he learns his way around those like labyrinthine

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<v Speaker 2>streets of Venice. Have you ever been to Venice?

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<v Speaker 4>No, I've never been.

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<v Speaker 2>I know a lot of people say Venice is an

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<v Speaker 2>overrated tourist trap, but it most certainly is not.

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<v Speaker 3>I love you've been a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, as you know, there are no cars there.

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<v Speaker 2>You get around either on foot or by boat.

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<v Speaker 4>I love all the bridges.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and at night, the you know, the winding streets

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<v Speaker 2>so quiet. The place is amazingly sinister, but like in

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<v Speaker 2>a good way. It's not Savannah Georgia, sinister where the

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<v Speaker 2>sins of the past are haunted.

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<v Speaker 3>You can hear the chains in the wind.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, no offense Savannah. There are these quiet little neighborhoods

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<v Speaker 2>in Venice, beautiful areas outside of the tourist zone along

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<v Speaker 2>the Grand Canal.

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<v Speaker 3>I say this like I've just seen pictures, but yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm familiar.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not easy to navigate those streets. It's in no

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<v Speaker 2>way laid out in the grid.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh really, yeah, I had I had the canals like

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<v Speaker 4>in the Netherlands, like Amsterdam.

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<v Speaker 2>Not at all, not at all. It's all winding, you know, Serpentines.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a professor in grad school who had this

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<v Speaker 2>theory about how cities whose streets are laid out in

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<v Speaker 2>the grid are masculine and those with winding streets are feminine.

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<v Speaker 4>Are they a man or a woman?

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<v Speaker 2>Man?

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<v Speaker 4>Interesting?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you agree with them?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems like a man's idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Barcelona's pretty much laid on a grid, but Barcelona feels

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<v Speaker 2>very feminine.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Maggie, I haven't been to Barstone either, but looking

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<v Speaker 4>at it interesting thing.

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<v Speaker 2>To think about when we're another anyway. Venice can feel

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<v Speaker 2>like a maze to the uninitiated.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh I bet.

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<v Speaker 2>But Vincenzo knew his way around as his little you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this little preteen thief, and soon he gets a gig

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<v Speaker 2>as a delivery boy. One day on the job, he's

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<v Speaker 2>walking down the street and he sees a thirty kilo

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<v Speaker 2>bag of sugar. I can't say where this bag was

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<v Speaker 2>or who was supposed to be watching it, but a

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<v Speaker 2>bag of that size may have well been full of gold.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, sugar.

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<v Speaker 2>At that point, sugar was at a premium. It took

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<v Speaker 2>a long time to rebuild after the war. England was

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<v Speaker 2>on rations for a few years after and they won. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so it took like five or six years for Italy's

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<v Speaker 2>economy to return to pre war levels, at least on paper.

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<v Speaker 4>Totally. I listened to all those old radio shows in

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<v Speaker 4>America they were also rationing sugar, where it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you got the blue stamps for sugar, then you ain't

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<v Speaker 4>getting it, and so.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the reality on the street is always much

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<v Speaker 2>worse than sort of as you play out on the books.

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<v Speaker 2>So sugar was in demand at the time. People were

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<v Speaker 2>selling it by the gram like it was disco dust.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, totally, just.

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<v Speaker 2>A graham for the holidays, as they'd say, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a shout out to all my nine o two

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<v Speaker 2>and oh loving palace from UC Davis Coaggi's So here's Vincenzo,

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<v Speaker 2>He's got thirty kilos of Hawaii's finest sweetened by the Sun.

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<v Speaker 2>His dad saw the bag and looked at the label

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<v Speaker 2>on the side. Property of the Italian navy. Yikes, that's

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<v Speaker 2>ben So he told his son to give it back.

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<v Speaker 2>So Vincenzo started to argue, and then his nana, his grandma,

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<v Speaker 2>piped up. No, She shouted, the sugar stays here. She's like, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I have seen things like we are.

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<v Speaker 4>Keeping this, who is it?

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<v Speaker 3>That's our navy, that's our sugar.

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<v Speaker 2>And what Nana says goes. So the family utn't get

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<v Speaker 2>By the time he was thirteen, his thieving was totally

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<v Speaker 2>out of control. Yet right his mom was terrified, not

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<v Speaker 2>only that he'd be caught, she worried about his soul.

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<v Speaker 2>So she hatched a plan. She told him that another

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<v Speaker 2>resident in their apartment building had an accident a while back,

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<v Speaker 2>before he was born. You you don't remember this, Vincenzo.

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<v Speaker 2>This woman was coming home late and trying not to

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<v Speaker 2>make a lot of noise. Her leg gave out and

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<v Speaker 2>she fell down the stairs in the dark and died

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<v Speaker 2>instantly when she was impaled on exposed nail. Yikes, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean that happened to me once and I died instantly,

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<v Speaker 2>so I believe it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, totally sounds painful.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so the leg, the reason for the fall, was restless,

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<v Speaker 2>and now it haunted their building. It was a ghost leg.

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<v Speaker 3>Now just the leg.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. The mom's like, there's a ghost leg and it

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<v Speaker 2>is cursing young boys who come home late. No, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not hopping, it's floating. But how does it anyway, So

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<v Speaker 2>a ghost leg had a name, okay, like the Golden Leg.

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<v Speaker 2>Vincenzo was terrified. He didn't want the ghost leg getting

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<v Speaker 2>him wriggling its little haunted toes at him, so he

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<v Speaker 2>changed his ways. He started stealing during the day.

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<v Speaker 4>Smart kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but he still needed to creep out at night.

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<v Speaker 2>So he practiced, and he practiced until he became really

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<v Speaker 2>good at climbing up the outside walls of the apartment

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<v Speaker 2>building spider spider Man style, you know, Spider Man d

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<v Speaker 2>DA style. That way, the ghost leg, which apparently lived

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<v Speaker 2>inside the building, was unaware that he was outside scrabbling

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<v Speaker 2>up the facade.

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<v Speaker 3>It totally makes ghost leg sense to me.

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<v Speaker 2>It totally makes sense. When he was at the ripe

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<v Speaker 2>age of fourteen, he learned a new trick. He was

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<v Speaker 2>out at the Lido, which is the beach area in Venice.

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<v Speaker 4>At fourteen fourteen, so he's like six years into his

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<v Speaker 4>crime curses. He's like still an apprentice journeyman. He's not

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<v Speaker 4>quite a master, but.

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<v Speaker 2>He gets there with this. It's like, so there's this

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<v Speaker 2>like Barrier Island beach area. He and his friends they

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<v Speaker 2>go out to the beach and they would crawl under

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<v Speaker 2>the changing huts where they had previously drilled holes brilliant,

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<v Speaker 2>and they would watch the ladies change into their swim suit.

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<v Speaker 3>So I thought for changing stuff to drop.

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<v Speaker 2>They were peeping. Who were some of these ladies, Actress

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<v Speaker 2>Gina l La Brigida Wow. And then someone making her

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<v Speaker 2>third appearance on this show, Sophia Lren Because this was

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<v Speaker 2>like the bay call for me, this is the vacation hotspot.

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<v Speaker 2>So they'd hang out under the huts all day, gock

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<v Speaker 2>in it lady's tushies.

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<v Speaker 3>Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>But Vincenzo, he had more crimes on his mind than

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<v Speaker 2>just gross invaved into privacy, right yeah. Uh. He realized

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<v Speaker 2>that come wintertime he could unscrew the floorboards of the

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<v Speaker 2>huts and then he'd be able to come back in

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<v Speaker 2>the summer and lift out the planks while the tourists

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<v Speaker 2>were out frolicking in the sun. So at that point

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<v Speaker 2>he could slip in and take their valuable.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I thought they were trying to do the

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<v Speaker 3>first and no.

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<v Speaker 2>One sees him going in or out. So generally when

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<v Speaker 2>he did this, he grabbed a few lara out of

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<v Speaker 2>the wallets.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, that's why I figured they just get a hand

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<v Speaker 4>up and reach him. But he's the whole plank, that's he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Just lifting, so it's easy. One day, things change. He

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<v Speaker 2>sees an American family heading out from a hotel to

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<v Speaker 2>the Lido beach, Mark and Vincenzo. He clocks a big

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<v Speaker 2>water dollar bills in the guy's shirt pocket, just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the loud American. So he had some cash in his

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<v Speaker 2>wallet from his little Lightnings wallet Lightnings, so he headed

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<v Speaker 2>over to a store and he bought these really expensive

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<v Speaker 2>pair of shorts on the beach. He wanted to blend

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<v Speaker 2>in on the beach with these wealthy tourists, So off

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<v Speaker 2>he goes in search of the American family. When he

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<v Speaker 2>finds them, he cozies up to their son. He's like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Vincenzo, Shoe. You want to kick the ball around,

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<v Speaker 2>so you like kick the old football around right soccer

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<v Speaker 2>to us Yanks. So the kid obliges. He's like, oh, hi, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you sound nice, and he's like show like smoking a cigarette.

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<v Speaker 2>So the kid obliges. They like, he's happy to make

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<v Speaker 2>a friend. They pass the ball back and forth. Then

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<v Speaker 2>Vincenzo makes his move. He punts the ball into the

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<v Speaker 2>family's beach hut all whoopsie. And then he's like, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, kid, Joe, John, Sam, whatever your name is,

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<v Speaker 2>American kid, I'm going to run in and get it.

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<v Speaker 2>So he runs in, zoinks the cash, shoved it in

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<v Speaker 2>his new shorts, and then he comes out and he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I just remember I got to get home. Yeah, im,

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<v Speaker 2>the canals are busy.

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<v Speaker 3>These times, come up and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So he takes off. He claims telling this story now

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<v Speaker 2>that it was the equivalent of two hundred thousand euros today.

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<v Speaker 2>What right, So why would someone carry that much money?

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<v Speaker 2>But then I started thinking, Okay, maybe the exchange rate

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<v Speaker 2>was all off and the dollar went super far at

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<v Speaker 2>that time. That's my guess. I was going to track

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<v Speaker 2>down how much a dollar to leiro was at that

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<v Speaker 2>time and then try and convert to euros and then

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<v Speaker 2>backtrack the inflation rate and then run forward to the

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<v Speaker 2>current rate. And I thought, you know what, Elizabeth, who

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<v Speaker 2>knows who cares. That's what I thought, Sarah.

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<v Speaker 3>Apply that judiciously, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>So he had all these American dollars but nowhere to

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<v Speaker 2>use them, because it would be really suspicious for a

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<v Speaker 2>young Venetian to try and pay with American dollars. He

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<v Speaker 2>did something even more suspicious, and he tried to exchange

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<v Speaker 2>them for lira at the bank. Yeah, he was caught,

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<v Speaker 2>he was arrested. He refused to admit what he'd done,

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<v Speaker 2>but that didn't matter. He did seven months for that one.

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<v Speaker 2>It should be noted that he learned to read and

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<v Speaker 2>write during his various stints in jail, so yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>then he could read the sugar.

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<v Speaker 3>Sacks like exactly rehabilitation.

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<v Speaker 2>So as he grew up, he graduated to burglarizing tobacconists

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<v Speaker 2>and jewelry stores. Okay, so like the corner stores, right,

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<v Speaker 2>The smoke shops were there for just everyday need, so

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<v Speaker 2>that's what he's getting there. The jewelry stores, though, he'd

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<v Speaker 2>break in at night because I guess he wasn't afraid

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<v Speaker 2>of the ghost leg anymore. He'd climb up inside and

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<v Speaker 2>make a perfect hole through the ceiling and the roof,

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<v Speaker 2>so he gets breaks into the shop makes a hole,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, yeah, and he would replace the piece cut

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<v Speaker 2>out and make sure no wind could blow through it

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<v Speaker 2>or otherwise alert the shopkeeper that something was off. Then

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<v Speaker 2>he'd scamper off into the evening. And then the next

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<v Speaker 2>day he'd creep along the rooftops, but this time in

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<v Speaker 2>broad daylight. I guess he's thinking everything's locked up at night,

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<v Speaker 2>like in a safe for way. So everyone takes this

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<v Speaker 2>little rest from one to three the shops are closed.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I pause for one second and say that we

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<v Speaker 2>must do this over here in this Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>My entire life.

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<v Speaker 4>I felt this every since I heard about it, whether

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<v Speaker 4>we're talking about the Siesta or like the what.

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<v Speaker 3>Did they call what we need?

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<v Speaker 2>Three? Totally like you just shut everything and shut everything

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<v Speaker 2>down in August, those two things. That is my platform.

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<v Speaker 2>Elizabeth twenty twenty four. I'm telling you, Bumfardo is my

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<v Speaker 2>running mate. Dunton Fardo twenty twenty four. I like, so,

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<v Speaker 2>AnyWho where were Vincenzo and I on this one?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>He was tiptoeing across the rooftops to his Heidi hole.

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<v Speaker 2>He'd pop out the roof stopper, the old ceiling.

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<v Speaker 3>The old bunghole exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And he'd slip into the jewelry store and it was

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<v Speaker 2>like one of those shopping streets when I was little,

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like it was a common thing in entertainment

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<v Speaker 2>and marketing, like you could win a toys r a

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<v Speaker 2>shopping spree, you run around the store throwing things in

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<v Speaker 2>the cart. Store still do that?

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<v Speaker 4>Do you remember how excited that people would get, like

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<v Speaker 4>almost violot with themselves trying to turn those corner.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I don't think they do that anymore, like as

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<v Speaker 2>a marketing prize giveaway and not like uncontrolled consumer shop lift.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly, and not like the TV shows where it's

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<v Speaker 4>just like I think they still do the grocery store one.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, Yeah, I think so.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, back to Vincenzo. He would slip into the store

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<v Speaker 2>in the afternoon and take everything he could, lots of

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<v Speaker 2>like those gold cornetto necklaces, and then he'd pop back

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<v Speaker 2>out and scurry home. He got better though. This was

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<v Speaker 2>him just training for his future as a serious burglar.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know what he took next? Let's take a

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<v Speaker 2>break and when we come back, you'll find out when

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<v Speaker 2>we last met Zarin, Yes, clad I was telling you

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<v Speaker 2>about Vincenzo Peppinos.

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<v Speaker 3>I love him, dude, so far I'm digging them.

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<v Speaker 2>He's amazing. He was a petty thief in his younger days,

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<v Speaker 2>but he started to set his sights on bigger hauls.

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<v Speaker 2>Venice is brimming with art, from the works of the

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<v Speaker 2>glass blowers on Morano to the artisans who craft carnival masks,

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<v Speaker 2>which I find intensely creepy. Really, oh, I hate those masks.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you mean like all of them, like the ones

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<v Speaker 4>the rich ones are people wear like an eyes wide shut?

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<v Speaker 4>Or do you mean like those long.

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<v Speaker 2>Nose everything'll creepy?

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<v Speaker 4>All right, I didn't know if to just specifically the

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<v Speaker 4>long nose. Yeah, plague dog, everything everything masked. If I

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<v Speaker 4>can't see your.

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<v Speaker 2>Face, I have a crazy latex mask that goes over

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<v Speaker 2>your head and then it comes down, you can like

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<v Speaker 2>tuck it in your shirt song and it's an old

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<v Speaker 2>man face and it looks amazing. And I love like

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<v Speaker 2>when someone comes to my door throwing on and then

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<v Speaker 2>open the door. I really really scarred my nephew doing

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<v Speaker 2>that once.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh god, he's young.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, so art. You also then have the

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<v Speaker 2>fine arts, the big dogs, right, Caneletto Giovanni and Gentile Bellini,

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<v Speaker 2>Tintoretto Titian. I love the skies and Titian paintings. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>some of the greatest.

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<v Speaker 3>Words of art. I just always think of the d

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<v Speaker 3>I can't help it. Forgive me.

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<v Speaker 2>So some of the greatest works of art were created there,

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<v Speaker 2>and even more were on display in a number of museums.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the perfect place to steal art. You know

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<v Speaker 2>how we love art thieves. Vincenzo step up. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the thing. In order to be a good art thief,

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<v Speaker 2>one has to know about art.

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<v Speaker 3>That it helps.

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<v Speaker 2>Since Vincenzo had learned to read and write while in prison,

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<v Speaker 2>he put those skills to work and he read everything

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<v Speaker 2>he could about art. He hung out at the library,

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<v Speaker 2>studying not just art history, but also Venetian aristocracy.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh smart patrons.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he wanted to know who kept what art in

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<v Speaker 2>their luxurious pilazzi that lie in the Grand Canal.

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<v Speaker 3>Brilliant.

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<v Speaker 2>He became an expert, so in his career he pulled

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<v Speaker 2>off more than three thousand art thefts. Three thousands. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>the craziest.

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<v Speaker 4>Very good.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, he's very good at what he does. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>the craziest part. He never sold the art.

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<v Speaker 3>He just kept it off himself.

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<v Speaker 2>He basically held them until they could be returned. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he was the Yeah, well no, he would have them all,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you pay a little like ransom basically,

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<v Speaker 2>and then all the other stuff from the home. That's

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<v Speaker 2>how he's really funding the lifestyle, like jewelry, silver, gold,

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<v Speaker 2>Funko pops.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh. So he's like, I really like the art. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna respect that, but.

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<v Speaker 4>You're silver, I'm moving that, yes, and the fun and

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<v Speaker 4>the Funko pops.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I saw you slip that in there. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to let you do that to the

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<v Speaker 3>nice people of Venice because you're like, I'm doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>The cops knew him, and the cops liked him.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait for the Funko pops, for the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole kitten Kabuter. There was one investigator in particular,

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<v Speaker 2>Detective Antonio Palmolcy. They had a pretty chummy relationship. They

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<v Speaker 2>were buddies. He'd negotiate with Vincenzo to return the artwork,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, obviously for a cost, the aristocrats would

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<v Speaker 2>pay up and get their loot back.

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<v Speaker 3>No Is he pretending like I know a guy who

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<v Speaker 3>has this, or do they know that he's the one.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, let me talk to let me find out

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<v Speaker 2>who did I know who did it?

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<v Speaker 4>Let me talk to him?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, cool, So everyone benefits Vincenzo. He makes a living

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<v Speaker 2>off you know, what's basically a ransom. The cops look

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<v Speaker 2>great because they've recovered these Yeah, the wealthy burglary victims.

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<v Speaker 2>They get their stuff back and they boast about being

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<v Speaker 2>hit by a famous thief.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure this isn't a sitcommon Italy.

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<v Speaker 2>So the aristocrats in the city they considered a theft

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<v Speaker 2>by Vincenzo as a kind of badge of.

0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:10.760
<v Speaker 3>Honors, totally like I earned it.

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<v Speaker 4>He wanted to hit me exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>I have really good taste, like expensive stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know who robbed me the other day?

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Vincenzo had a younger brother named Alfredo, and sometimes

0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:24.040
<v Speaker 2>it does Alfredo has. Alfredo's career is amazing. He was

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<v Speaker 2>a magician, Alfred. So Alfredo and Vincenzo, they both said

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<v Speaker 2>Alfredo was not involved in any of this stuff. But

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes the cops would just arrest Alfredo anyway, breaking the

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<v Speaker 2>laws of physics with your magic, You.

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<v Speaker 4>Got any new tricks, Freddy.

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<v Speaker 2>Little Fredo. He did have an accomplice, though Vincenzo wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>his brother. He had a bunch that he would use

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<v Speaker 2>my name Luigi. No. The one guy that he liked

0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:55.720
<v Speaker 2>to use was a man named Claudio Claudio Claudio, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was there in a pinch. He was deaf, and

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<v Speaker 2>that made things a little difficult.

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<v Speaker 3>Did I sign language talking communicate?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a lot of gesturing. I mean they do a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of gest language. Yeah. So one of Vincenzo's favorite

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<v Speaker 2>techniques when scoping out a grand palazzo was to carry

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<v Speaker 2>a pigeon, you know, just as a.

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<v Speaker 4>Pal just like Nicola Tesla is like Caaren and around

0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:19.000
<v Speaker 4>like this is my girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he'd let it go in the house and see

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<v Speaker 2>if it tripped any motion detectors. Oh that's that's totally smart.

0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:27.600
<v Speaker 4>Wow, he was in his trained Imagine he's getting it

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<v Speaker 4>right there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then he uses the He was so good

0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:37.120
<v Speaker 2>that there was an aristocrat named Count Barozzi who hired

0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:42.720
<v Speaker 2>him to steal from his friends. So if the Count

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<v Speaker 2>saw a piece at another rich person's house and he

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<v Speaker 2>wanted it, he'd be like Vincenzo Okay, when you walk in,

0:21:48.200 --> 0:21:52.280
<v Speaker 2>it's on the left, and Vincenzo got it.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never been there, right.

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<v Speaker 2>In nineteen seventy one, he stole from the private gallery

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<v Speaker 2>of Peggy Gougenheim. Oh yeah, twice, once in February, once

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<v Speaker 2>in December, or twice. He was a serious character. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>what Epic Magazine had to say. Quote. He once infiltrated

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<v Speaker 2>the Swiss consulate and made off with one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty million lira in cash. In the late nineteen seventies,

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<v Speaker 2>he tailed Carrie Grant, who portrayed one of the most

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<v Speaker 2>famous thieves in film history, and robbed him while he

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<v Speaker 2>slept in his hotel room. Later, he freed a forlorn

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<v Speaker 2>gorilla from the zoo in Rome, he felt bad for

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<v Speaker 2>the animal, and robbed the Venice casino, all of which

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<v Speaker 2>made him a local legend.

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<v Speaker 3>How is this guy living my best life?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean now, I can't do any of these things

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<v Speaker 4>because he's done them all right.

0:22:38.320 --> 0:22:41.639
<v Speaker 2>Well, he becomes known as the gentleman theater. He's a

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<v Speaker 2>true gentleman in that sense. He was never violent, he

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<v Speaker 2>never carried a weapon, andis love him. This guy's amazing well.

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<v Speaker 4>And he may have returned generalized.

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<v Speaker 2>He may have returned stolen items for a fee, but

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<v Speaker 2>he never blackmailed anyone. And that would have been easy

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<v Speaker 2>because he has embarrassing stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm sure that's the city with lots of embarrassing stuff.

0:22:59.760 --> 0:23:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Right, So he had a code respect people. Don't use weapons,

0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:07.520
<v Speaker 2>don't steal from the poor, lawyers, doctors, magistrates or policemen,

0:23:08.320 --> 0:23:11.760
<v Speaker 2>and smart too when stealing from jewelers, leave some of

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<v Speaker 2>the gold, and don't take the jewelry that's being repaired

0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:16.840
<v Speaker 2>because it belongs to a customer who's already paid for it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's so nice, it's incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>He was really sensitive while robbing people because.

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<v Speaker 4>He's taking the cream, like like the world's a dairy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. He dig through underwear drawers looking for jewelry, but

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<v Speaker 2>he made sure not to mess up the undies like

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<v Speaker 2>he kept everything in order because he knew that seeing

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<v Speaker 2>your private underthings tossed all over the place felt like

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<v Speaker 2>a real violation, more so than having your Picasso, macgreet,

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<v Speaker 2>Ernst Clee or Kandinsky taken from all Those are all

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<v Speaker 2>artists that are told by the.

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<v Speaker 3>Way, Oh wow, those are all just like adorn your underwear.

0:23:47.200 --> 0:23:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Underwear that touches you. He says, quote to be a thief,

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<v Speaker 2>you need a little culture, a little intelligence. You have

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<v Speaker 2>to have a gentle good soul and to not be

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<v Speaker 2>arrogant with him so.

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<v Speaker 3>Good, I know he wouldn't be writing his crimes down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right, well we'll see. One time, in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of stealing everything from a mansion owned by a countess,

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<v Speaker 2>the lady at the house returned and was like, who

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<v Speaker 2>are you. You're in my house. Vincenzo and Claudio said,

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<v Speaker 2>we are thieves. Don't worry, don't be afraid. We're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to harm you.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it the truth, and she's like, okay, I can

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<v Speaker 3>trust you.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they carried her suitcases upstairs for her before they

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<v Speaker 2>took off and escaped into the night.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm telling you, good men, you just have a human moment.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. He says that quote stealing from the super

0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:38.200
<v Speaker 2>rich is not a crime, and that he quote robbed

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<v Speaker 2>from the rich to give to the poor.

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<v Speaker 4>I super agree, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>He also said that quote I gave everything back and quote,

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<v Speaker 2>if I had just one percent of what I stole

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<v Speaker 2>over my career, I would be rich. But if I

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<v Speaker 2>had one percent of what I donated to the poor,

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<v Speaker 2>I would be even richer.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>He would only steal from rich and people who wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be hurt by the theft financially. And he only stole

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful and valuable things. Not just valuable things, but if

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<v Speaker 2>it was a piece of beauty. He's like, you don't

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<v Speaker 2>deserve this. He believed that the theft was a price

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<v Speaker 2>that they had to pay for being rich.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, looks, people can celebrate Jeff Bezos for being able

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<v Speaker 4>to skim a little off of all these workers and

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<v Speaker 4>get it becoming a billionaire. Yeah, I like this guy

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<v Speaker 4>for skimming from the billionaire. And I'm like, look, we

0:25:17.760 --> 0:25:19.280
<v Speaker 4>just both were celebrating different skimmers.

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<v Speaker 2>He would steal credit cards from the wealthy and then

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<v Speaker 2>go to grocery stores and buy food for working people.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, see what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Since it was covered by insurance, he figured that he

0:25:28.440 --> 0:25:30.520
<v Speaker 2>wasn't stealing from the rich. He was stealing from the bank.

0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:33.320
<v Speaker 2>And he really loved that. One time he saw an

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<v Speaker 2>old woman teleman begging on the street to go find

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<v Speaker 2>a job. He was livid, so he quietly followed her

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<v Speaker 2>home and he made a note where she lived. He

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<v Speaker 2>checked in every now and then, and after about a

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<v Speaker 2>month he decided it was time he broke into her

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<v Speaker 2>house and stole a bunch of valuables. After he left,

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<v Speaker 2>he was checking out his loot and he realized he'd

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<v Speaker 2>accidentally taken an urn with the woman's husband's ashes in them. Ooh,

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<v Speaker 2>and he always returned personal and sentimental objects that he

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<v Speaker 2>had mistakenly taken, but not this time. He dumped the

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<v Speaker 2>ashes over the rialto bridge into the Grand Canal, saying

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<v Speaker 2>to the ashes, quote, go, you're better off free in

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<v Speaker 2>the water than with your awful life.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, that's kind of heavy. That's when you get into

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<v Speaker 4>like the Southern European of it all. Oh yeah, I

0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 4>had to do this, And they're like, Okay, I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>going to argue.

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<v Speaker 3>I got it. You gotta do this. That's messed up.

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<v Speaker 2>His antics just continued. In the spring of nineteen ninety one,

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<v Speaker 2>he used a telescope on the bell tower in Piazza

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<v Speaker 2>San Marco, and he's like scoping out the nearby plaza.

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<v Speaker 2>He really had his eye on this one palazzo owned

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<v Speaker 2>by Raoul Gardini, a wealthy Italian entrepreneur and businessman. Sure

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<v Speaker 2>Vincenzo saw a skylight on the roof about forty feet

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<v Speaker 2>off the ground. A few days later, he and Claudio,

0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 2>who you know, trustworthy nearly deaf, walked up to the

0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:58.119
<v Speaker 2>entrance of Palazzo Gardini. Claudio he guarded the alleyway entrance,

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<v Speaker 2>and Vincenzo scaled the crumbling facade to the roof, just

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<v Speaker 2>like he did as he was a kid, but now

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<v Speaker 2>he was forty eight.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and there's no longer ghost leg right.

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<v Speaker 2>So he gets on the roof. The skylight's locked, but

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:10.359
<v Speaker 2>the frame around it is all old and rotten, so

0:27:10.440 --> 0:27:13.960
<v Speaker 2>he just slips right. He enters the house, no alarms,

0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:16.000
<v Speaker 2>walks down the set of stairs, opens the door to

0:27:16.040 --> 0:27:19.640
<v Speaker 2>let Cloudio in. Cloudio can't hear him, so he has

0:27:19.680 --> 0:27:22.240
<v Speaker 2>to like go out and like wave him down, like

0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:24.000
<v Speaker 2>make a noise that come in and then waves him

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<v Speaker 2>in comedy. Oh yeah, they searched the house, including the bedroom,

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<v Speaker 2>and here's where Vincenzo and I are kindred spirits. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this man loves kashmir cashmere. If he saw something cashmere

0:27:37.960 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 2>he liked while on a highst he'd grab it, and

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:45.119
<v Speaker 2>he became known for wearing cashmere sweaters, so this time

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:48.080
<v Speaker 2>he finds a blue cashmere sweater that fit. He and

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<v Speaker 2>Claudio then work their way through the rest of the house.

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<v Speaker 2>Vincenzo ignores the artwork. He's like, this is not impressive.

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:58.679
<v Speaker 2>He's like, oh, this is fantastic, puts it on. Oh

0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:02.199
<v Speaker 2>this is better. So he'd seen and stolen better artwork.

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<v Speaker 2>He wasn't interested in the stuff there. He did find

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<v Speaker 2>some silverware worth more than over one hundred thousand dollars today.

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<v Speaker 2>In total, they stole around four hundred thousand dollars worth

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<v Speaker 2>of items they left. They loaded four duffel bags into

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 2>a borrowed water taxi and then escaped into the canals.

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<v Speaker 2>So good, they're very successful. In the fall of ninety eight,

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<v Speaker 2>Vincenzo was walking through the streets of Venice eating a pastry,

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<v Speaker 2>does another thing that I love about him, when he

0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:33.359
<v Speaker 2>noticed some large homes with closed shutters. So he did

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<v Speaker 2>some research and he discovered that one of the palazzi

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<v Speaker 2>belonged to a man named Alberto Falk FA l c K,

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<v Speaker 2>which is also.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the same spelling fa l CKK.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like the ambulance service in Oakland's fault. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's why I always yelled, oh Falc when they.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, that's why you yelled at yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Falc was it was. He was a wealthy businessman

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<v Speaker 2>from a really well known family in Milan. He also

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<v Speaker 2>had this extra home in Venice and appeared he was

0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 2>currently away from it. So Vincenzo finds out that falk

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<v Speaker 2>owned a caniletto painting called Il fongetto de la Farina

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<v Speaker 2>The Source of Flower. This was one of Vincenzo's favorite paintings.

0:29:17.560 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 2>It shows this like bustling scene of merchants waiting along

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<v Speaker 2>the canal. Caniletto was an eighteenth century Venetian artist who

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:27.600
<v Speaker 2>often painted scenes of Venice, and as the son of

0:29:27.640 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 2>the city, I feel like it must have really resonated

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:32.800
<v Speaker 2>with him, this image. So one day Vincenzo and a

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 2>friend they enter Falkes home. They're mainly there to steal jewelry. However,

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:40.959
<v Speaker 2>Vincenzo sees the painting on the wall. He told the

0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:43.600
<v Speaker 2>Italian paper Lesthompa in two thousand and eight that it

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<v Speaker 2>seemed like the caniletto was calling to him. Do you know,

0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:49.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's pretty large.

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:52.920
<v Speaker 4>I imagine it's one of the biggest his paintings.

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:54.400
<v Speaker 2>And it was begging him to take it out of there.

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 2>He said, quote, what was I supposed to do? Leave

0:29:56.400 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 2>it there? So like the ghost painting is.

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<v Speaker 3>Like take me with you.

0:30:00.640 --> 0:30:03.200
<v Speaker 2>In short, Vincenzo, he was captivated.

0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:03.640
<v Speaker 3>Divide it.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, no, it was the painting that stole me.

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<v Speaker 2>During the theft. It's around three am. Falk returns home. Oh, Falk.

0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:18.800
<v Speaker 2>He didn't see the thieves or the thefts though, And

0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 2>after a bit, Vincenzo and his associate just leave. They

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:24.400
<v Speaker 2>just kind of slip right out. Vincenzo said that if

0:30:24.400 --> 0:30:27.000
<v Speaker 2>he hadn't returned, they would have taken everything but the walls.

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:29.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they were just going to bleed this guy. Still,

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:32.840
<v Speaker 2>they stole so many bags of things, including the caniletto.

0:30:33.360 --> 0:30:36.600
<v Speaker 2>Like he knew that stealing the painting, which estimated to

0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 2>be worth fifteen million euro.

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh sure, but it's Manning stolen him. He's not giving

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<v Speaker 3>rid of that.

0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:42.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, he knew would complicate things like the government's going

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 2>to be notified and like, but he couldn't help himself.

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<v Speaker 2>So months after the theft, he calls Falk and he

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:52.160
<v Speaker 2>told him that the painting I have it. Guess what

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:55.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm the one with your painting, and he's like, I

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<v Speaker 2>will you need to donate it to the city of Venice,

0:30:58.200 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 2>and Falk's like, no, you need to give it back.

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<v Speaker 2>So Vincenzo eventually gives the painting back and he ended

0:31:04.880 --> 0:31:07.520
<v Speaker 2>up spending seven months in jail for that one, but

0:31:07.880 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Falk later sent him some wine and three years later

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 2>allowed the painting to be shown in an exhibit, something

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:18.160
<v Speaker 2>he hadn't done before. Now there's still one more major

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<v Speaker 2>heightst I want to tell you about when we come

0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:23.360
<v Speaker 2>back from this break, I'll introduce a new force to

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<v Speaker 2>be reckoned with the mafia Zaren Zaren Elizabeth Vincenzo Peppine.

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<v Speaker 2>Not long after that incident where he took the Kashmir

0:31:56.440 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 2>sweater in the silverware, Vincenzo ran into a local mafio

0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:07.600
<v Speaker 2>so named Andrea Zamatillo U Zamatillo. He worked for a

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<v Speaker 2>guy named Philiche Manieioch man Happy Manieiro Filich is Philippe

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<v Speaker 2>Filiche Maniio was known on the street as Faccia DiAngelo.

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<v Speaker 3>The face of an angel, Angel Face.

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 2>Angel Face Zamatillo. He wanted to talk to vic.

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<v Speaker 3>His name is Happy and angel Face.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, hold on, so Zamatillo, he wants to talk to Vincenzo.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what it said in Epic magazine quote. Zamatillo

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<v Speaker 2>was a member of the Mala del Brenta, the local

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<v Speaker 2>mafia organization in the Venetto, the northeastern part of Italy

0:32:42.840 --> 0:32:46.760
<v Speaker 2>that includes Venice. Under the leadership of Filiche Manieiro. The

0:32:46.800 --> 0:32:50.480
<v Speaker 2>group had assassinated many of its rivals. Now they controlled

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<v Speaker 2>everything from water taxis to drug trafficking in Venice. So

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<v Speaker 2>the Mala del Brenta, it was kind of like the

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<v Speaker 2>Cosinostra or Camora model of crime family, only morel Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it started in the sixties. Though nineteen sixties, there were

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of high ranking Sicilian mafia members who were

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:10.800
<v Speaker 2>locked up in solitary confinement in prisons in the Veneto region.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, okay, that makes sense.

0:33:12.480 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 2>So they're trying to like send them as far away

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<v Speaker 2>as possible. Here are some of the heavy hitters. Salvatore Contorno,

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<v Speaker 2>Gitano Finzantati, Antonio.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing great so far.

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<v Speaker 2>Just keep on you go, and Salvae and Giuseppe Madiona.

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<v Speaker 3>There we go, there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are some amazing names in.

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<v Speaker 3>The handjusters with them spot on.

0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:39.760
<v Speaker 2>They're horrible men, but I love their names. So the

0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:42.600
<v Speaker 2>criminal element up in the Venetto started reaching out to

0:33:42.640 --> 0:33:45.680
<v Speaker 2>these guys. Eventually they all joined up together and built

0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:49.160
<v Speaker 2>a really strong crime family. And the boss Filichim Niero,

0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:53.040
<v Speaker 2>the police, they're cracking down on the mafia across the country.

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:57.760
<v Speaker 2>In that crackdown, one of Manieiro's cousins was arrested, and

0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:00.360
<v Speaker 2>you know there it is so.

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:01.120
<v Speaker 4>The normal bribes.

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 2>The normal bribes to get the cousin out of jail

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:09.320
<v Speaker 2>weren't working. Zarin, Yes, close your eyes, Oh yes, I

0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:12.720
<v Speaker 2>want you to picture it. You're a Mala del Brena

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:17.799
<v Speaker 2>enforcer named Corrado, working with Felice Manieero's right hand man

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Andrea Zamatio. The two of you are walking around just

0:34:21.880 --> 0:34:25.360
<v Speaker 2>at the foot of the famous Rialto bridge. You're headed

0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:28.600
<v Speaker 2>toward Riva Rialto. It's a well known restaurant along the

0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Grand Canal. It's a little touristy, but as you look up,

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:34.480
<v Speaker 2>you realize the rye humor in choosing this place. Above

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:37.720
<v Speaker 2>the awning hangs a large banner. It reads no Mafia

0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:42.960
<v Speaker 2>Venizia isakra, No Mafia venice is sacred. But there you

0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:47.040
<v Speaker 2>are two made men meeting up with an infamous thief.

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:49.440
<v Speaker 2>You see Vincenzo sitting at a table under an awning

0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 2>outside the restaurant. Gondolas and water taxis glide by in

0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:57.560
<v Speaker 2>the canal. You join them. Zamatio is serious. He tells

0:34:57.640 --> 0:35:00.080
<v Speaker 2>Vincenzo that Manierro wants him to lead a group of

0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:05.920
<v Speaker 2>armed henchmen into a museum called Ka Ratzunico. He's supposed

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:08.319
<v Speaker 2>to steal the best paintings. You take a drag from

0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 2>your cigarette and you stare at this Steve. His dark

0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:12.920
<v Speaker 2>brown Kashmir sweater is gorgeous.

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:14.880
<v Speaker 3>I really like it, sky you.

0:35:14.880 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 2>You want to ask him where he got it, but

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:21.040
<v Speaker 2>now it's not the time. Zamatillo tells Vincenzo that Maniaro

0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:24.479
<v Speaker 2>would trade the stolen paintings for his cousin's release. He'd

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 2>also get a promise to take the heat off of

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Mala del Brenta. Vincenzo doesn't like this. He stares out

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:32.080
<v Speaker 2>at the canal and watches a mail boat drift by.

0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:35.799
<v Speaker 2>I have an idea, Vincenzo says to you. He gets up.

0:35:36.040 --> 0:35:38.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to steal a famous piece of art, he says,

0:35:38.480 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to do it alone. You ask him

0:35:40.680 --> 0:35:44.439
<v Speaker 2>which artwork, Vincenzo responds, Just read the newspapers you'll find

0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:46.440
<v Speaker 2>out and scene.

0:35:46.760 --> 0:35:48.880
<v Speaker 4>Okay, I was waiting for the mail boat and then

0:35:48.920 --> 0:35:52.520
<v Speaker 4>the female boat to go buy. Every time you say that,

0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 4>I'm always like, it takes me a second. You take

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:56.600
<v Speaker 4>like the male car on the train, I'm always like, Wow,

0:35:56.640 --> 0:35:58.640
<v Speaker 4>that's really stuck in there. I don't think of male

0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 4>as an adjectives.

0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anyway, go, So Vincenzo, he did not work with

0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 2>the mafia. He did not want to good call. This

0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:07.880
<v Speaker 2>kind of robbery would scare civilians.

0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:09.799
<v Speaker 3>We've seen how that works out. You have no one to.

0:36:09.800 --> 0:36:12.279
<v Speaker 2>Call well, and you can't you can't say no, they

0:36:12.280 --> 0:36:14.040
<v Speaker 2>can't hal a cop. If you do this kind of

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:15.920
<v Speaker 2>thing that it's going to cause the museums to improve

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:18.600
<v Speaker 2>their security. It's going to piss off the police. All

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:20.040
<v Speaker 2>of this is going to make his job.

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:22.319
<v Speaker 4>Harder, way harder, and he'll lose all of his good

0:36:22.360 --> 0:36:24.759
<v Speaker 4>reputations and good rapport with the cops, and it'll put

0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:26.400
<v Speaker 4>him over a barrel because they'll want more and more

0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:26.759
<v Speaker 4>and more.

0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, So this is what it said in Epic magazine.

0:36:29.960 --> 0:36:32.879
<v Speaker 2>Until now, the Big Boss hadn't meddled in Peppino's work.

0:36:33.120 --> 0:36:36.359
<v Speaker 2>But if Peppino was viewed as disloyal, Maniero could ban

0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:38.720
<v Speaker 2>him from stealing in the region or simply haven't killed

0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:45.080
<v Speaker 2>options two options. On October ninth, nineteen ninety one, Vincenzo

0:36:45.200 --> 0:36:48.520
<v Speaker 2>joined a tour group at the Palazzo Ducale, the Doge's palace.

0:36:49.120 --> 0:36:51.920
<v Speaker 2>It's now a museum. It's located near Piazza San Marco,

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:55.120
<v Speaker 2>and it's seen as a symbol of Venice. The group

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:58.799
<v Speaker 2>crossed over the Bridge of Size. It's an enclosed, bifurcated

0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:01.239
<v Speaker 2>bridge to the former prison, and it got its name

0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:03.920
<v Speaker 2>because it provided the last view of Venice that jailbirds

0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:04.960
<v Speaker 2>saw before they went to prison.

0:37:05.040 --> 0:37:05.759
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's nuts.

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:07.560
<v Speaker 2>So they would sigh at the beauty of the city

0:37:07.640 --> 0:37:08.840
<v Speaker 2>and they're impending in carsons.

0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:09.319
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow.

0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:09.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:37:09.800 --> 0:37:11.080
<v Speaker 3>Have you seen some of the studies.

0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:13.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh yeah. So Vincenzo he lagged behind the group

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:16.600
<v Speaker 2>as it toured the bridge, and as the group left,

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:18.000
<v Speaker 2>he hung back and he hid in one of the

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:21.480
<v Speaker 2>old cells. So after the museum closed, he stayed hidden

0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:24.560
<v Speaker 2>and he timed the guards round. He discovered that there

0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 2>was just one guard on duty, and he came by

0:37:27.000 --> 0:37:31.240
<v Speaker 2>every forty five minutes. So around two am, Vincenzo crossed

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:33.640
<v Speaker 2>back over the bridge into the main museum, into a

0:37:33.719 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 2>room called Sala de Cnsori. They were the historical protectors

0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:41.719
<v Speaker 2>of Venice's public institutions, and the room held a lot

0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:45.200
<v Speaker 2>of their portraits. But Vincenzo was focused on another painting,

0:37:45.600 --> 0:37:51.720
<v Speaker 2>La Madonna colbambino Madonna and child. Yeah, that was painted

0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:53.600
<v Speaker 2>in the early fifteen hundreds by a member of the

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Viverini school. It symbolized the power of the Venetian state.

0:37:57.840 --> 0:38:00.279
<v Speaker 2>A comparison made is that it was like take it

0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:03.319
<v Speaker 2>would be like taking the Constitution from the capitol. It's

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:06.759
<v Speaker 2>that important, really. Yeah. The painting was fourteen feet off

0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:08.279
<v Speaker 2>the ground, so it's way up there.

0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:09.040
<v Speaker 4>Wow.

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:11.200
<v Speaker 2>He reached up to a ledge below it, but the

0:38:11.280 --> 0:38:13.880
<v Speaker 2>wooden ledge is old that starts cracking when he pulls

0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:16.200
<v Speaker 2>on it. So before he can make his next move, though,

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:19.800
<v Speaker 2>he hears footsteps guard's back, so he runs to the bridge.

0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:23.000
<v Speaker 2>He chose the side of the bridge, luckily that the

0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:26.240
<v Speaker 2>guard did not walk down. When the guard turned around,

0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:28.640
<v Speaker 2>Vincenzo returned to the cell to hide and regroup for

0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:31.760
<v Speaker 2>another forty five minutes, so it's now around three am.

0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:34.719
<v Speaker 2>When the guard finally passed again. Vincenzo ran to a

0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:37.880
<v Speaker 2>supply closet, grabbed a ladder, climbed up to the painting,

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:40.720
<v Speaker 2>used a knife to separate it from the wall, covers

0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:42.759
<v Speaker 2>it with a blanket, tucks it under his arm, leaves

0:38:42.800 --> 0:38:46.480
<v Speaker 2>the museum. The next morning, a janitor discovered and reported

0:38:46.480 --> 0:38:48.560
<v Speaker 2>the theft, and the city freaks out.

0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:51.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah he sold the constitution, Yeah exactly.

0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:54.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh totally, So the police come to investigate. There are

0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:57.000
<v Speaker 2>no clues except for a shoe print left where dust

0:38:57.000 --> 0:39:00.959
<v Speaker 2>from the painting had fallen. The forensics team they figured out, okay,

0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:06.880
<v Speaker 2>these are clarks and the finally little soft shoes I know.

0:39:07.160 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 2>And then the following morning they let Detective Paul Mossy know.

0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:15.520
<v Speaker 2>But before Paul Mosy could send officers to arrest Vincenzo

0:39:15.760 --> 0:39:19.080
<v Speaker 2>and take his shoes, he saw the morning's paper. Someone

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:22.120
<v Speaker 2>from the museum talked to a reporter because the article

0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 2>noted that the only evidence that at the scene was

0:39:24.600 --> 0:39:28.279
<v Speaker 2>a shoe print. So Vincenzo takes his shoes, fills them

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:31.719
<v Speaker 2>with Rocks throws them into the canal. Police show up,

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:35.960
<v Speaker 2>no shoes. Paul Mosey is angry and he threatens Vincenzo

0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:39.200
<v Speaker 2>with police surveillance. And that meant that any interaction with

0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 2>anyone considered a criminal would land him in jail. And

0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:44.840
<v Speaker 2>that's like most of his friends. So he promised he

0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:47.000
<v Speaker 2>would return the painting, and more than that, he'd give

0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 2>it back in twenty days.

0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:50.400
<v Speaker 4>This is like the moment where like the police captain

0:39:50.440 --> 0:39:52.000
<v Speaker 4>goes to the loose cannon, give.

0:39:51.880 --> 0:39:53.640
<v Speaker 3>Me your badge, and you're gun. You're off the forest.

0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:56.000
<v Speaker 2>I can't trust you to the loose cannon.

0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:57.400
<v Speaker 4>Criminal, criminal exactly.

0:39:57.440 --> 0:39:59.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So he says, I'll get it to you in

0:39:59.360 --> 0:40:02.280
<v Speaker 2>twenty days. Details about how he got the painting back,

0:40:02.480 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, given by the man himself, are hazy. He

0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:08.160
<v Speaker 2>contradicts himself in his various tellings. So you said he

0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:11.080
<v Speaker 2>didn't write these things down in twenty ten. I see

0:40:11.320 --> 0:40:14.120
<v Speaker 2>he wrote a book. Stealing from the rich isn't a sin.

0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:16.359
<v Speaker 3>Well with a book, okay, I'll give him that. Yeah,

0:40:16.440 --> 0:40:17.720
<v Speaker 3>we all know what happened with the books.

0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So he said that he actually arranged to have

0:40:20.840 --> 0:40:23.759
<v Speaker 2>Manieero return the painting in twenty Days as part of

0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:26.680
<v Speaker 2>his initial discussions with the mafia. That doesn't really make

0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:29.239
<v Speaker 2>sense given the purpose of the painting as a negotiation tool,

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:31.920
<v Speaker 2>but whatever. So in other places he said, he just

0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:34.040
<v Speaker 2>you know what, I was on vacation in the Seychelles

0:40:34.120 --> 0:40:35.680
<v Speaker 2>when it was supposed to be returned. I didn't have

0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 2>anything to do with this. That doesn't make sense.

0:40:38.360 --> 0:40:39.040
<v Speaker 4>That's an odd one.

0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:42.640
<v Speaker 2>In twenty fourteen, he told Epic magazine a totally different story,

0:40:43.120 --> 0:40:45.800
<v Speaker 2>and he said, well, this is hypothetical and like, nothing

0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:48.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm about to say is what happened. But if I

0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:52.440
<v Speaker 2>did it so, according to this version, shortly after the

0:40:52.480 --> 0:40:56.719
<v Speaker 2>Doge's Palace theft, he visited many Arrow at home under

0:40:56.719 --> 0:40:59.680
<v Speaker 2>the pretense of making sure the painting was being properly stored,

0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:02.880
<v Speaker 2>and it would be really detrimental to both of them

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:04.640
<v Speaker 2>it was if it was damage, so I just want

0:41:04.680 --> 0:41:08.560
<v Speaker 2>to check on it. Vincenzo was told that it was

0:41:08.600 --> 0:41:12.320
<v Speaker 2>being stored in a shed behind Maniero's cousin's house nearby,

0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:15.360
<v Speaker 2>and that's where Maniero also kept his pets, so it

0:41:15.480 --> 0:41:19.000
<v Speaker 2>is good to check on this thing, Vincenzo. He then

0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:22.480
<v Speaker 2>had a forger friend paint a replica of the middana,

0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:25.600
<v Speaker 2>and then he also had a veterinarian friend pick up

0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:28.760
<v Speaker 2>some tranquilizers in case he needed them for Manieo's pets.

0:41:30.000 --> 0:41:32.719
<v Speaker 2>So a week later it's like tenant night Vincenzo. He

0:41:32.800 --> 0:41:36.000
<v Speaker 2>goes to Manniero's cousin's house. He has the replica painting,

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:39.560
<v Speaker 2>he has the drugs. When he approaches the shed, he

0:41:39.640 --> 0:41:42.280
<v Speaker 2>sees that one of the pets is in a caged

0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 2>run in front of it in front of the shed,

0:41:44.840 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 2>but instead of the expected guard dog, it's a tiger.

0:41:47.920 --> 0:41:49.040
<v Speaker 2>What it's a tiger?

0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:53.080
<v Speaker 4>What this is where they the mafia part jumps out.

0:41:54.960 --> 0:41:57.719
<v Speaker 2>So he puts one of the tranquilizers into a piece

0:41:57.719 --> 0:41:59.879
<v Speaker 2>of steak that he brought, you know, and he feeds

0:41:59.920 --> 0:42:01.839
<v Speaker 2>it to the tiger, and after thirty minutes the tiger

0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:02.480
<v Speaker 2>falls asleep.

0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:03.919
<v Speaker 4>Oh good for him, right big.

0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:07.200
<v Speaker 2>As he makes his way inside, he sees the painting,

0:42:07.520 --> 0:42:13.439
<v Speaker 2>but he sees something else, another tiger. No, he had

0:42:13.440 --> 0:42:15.719
<v Speaker 2>more meat on him and he had more tranquilizers. So

0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:18.200
<v Speaker 2>he feeds it the tiger and the tiger falls asleep too.

0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:22.000
<v Speaker 2>He's like, all right, sick, ready for y'all so he

0:42:22.040 --> 0:42:24.880
<v Speaker 2>grabs the stolen painting, replaces it with the replica, and

0:42:24.920 --> 0:42:26.200
<v Speaker 2>then it escapes back into them.

0:42:26.320 --> 0:42:28.120
<v Speaker 4>They have guard tigers, guard tigers.

0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:32.440
<v Speaker 2>You're still they have guard painting is guarded by tigers.

0:42:33.400 --> 0:42:35.279
<v Speaker 4>This is what I want in movies and they have

0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:35.960
<v Speaker 4>it in reality.

0:42:36.120 --> 0:42:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Exactly. No, this is why Venice is amazing.

0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:40.840
<v Speaker 4>And the criminals they want life to be like movies.

0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:42.480
<v Speaker 4>I want life to be like Venice, right.

0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:46.280
<v Speaker 2>We all do. November seventh, nineteen ninety one, the Venice

0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:49.400
<v Speaker 2>police held a press conference. The madonna had been returned.

0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:54.360
<v Speaker 2>It had been found via an anonymous tip Maniera's cousin

0:42:54.680 --> 0:42:59.080
<v Speaker 2>was eventually released after being you know the negotiations for him,

0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:02.960
<v Speaker 2>but Sanniio claims it was thanks to returning a different artifact.

0:43:03.000 --> 0:43:07.239
<v Speaker 2>He'd stolen Saint Anthony's tongue and jaw bone rob from

0:43:07.239 --> 0:43:11.000
<v Speaker 2>a church and patava by unidentified men with shotguns the

0:43:11.080 --> 0:43:14.440
<v Speaker 2>day after Vincenzo had stolen the madonna. I think I

0:43:14.520 --> 0:43:16.239
<v Speaker 2>now have to do an Italian relic theft.

0:43:16.320 --> 0:43:18.600
<v Speaker 3>Hell yeah? Did they do it? As like like we

0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:19.480
<v Speaker 3>need some leverage?

0:43:19.640 --> 0:43:21.000
<v Speaker 4>Like all right, we will give you back the jaw

0:43:21.080 --> 0:43:23.000
<v Speaker 4>bone if you give me back our boss basically.

0:43:23.840 --> 0:43:26.960
<v Speaker 2>So throughout his career, Vincenzo says he stole nearly a

0:43:27.080 --> 0:43:29.840
<v Speaker 2>ton of gold and hundreds of carrots of precious stones.

0:43:30.440 --> 0:43:32.920
<v Speaker 2>He says he probably you know, like I said, what

0:43:33.040 --> 0:43:37.280
<v Speaker 2>was it, three thousand thefts, but he's like it probably more. Yeah.

0:43:37.320 --> 0:43:39.640
<v Speaker 2>He spent a total of around twenty to twenty five

0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:41.680
<v Speaker 2>years in jail when you add it all up for

0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:46.120
<v Speaker 2>his various thefts, oh little bits here and there. And

0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:48.040
<v Speaker 2>he said that he was aware of the fact that

0:43:48.120 --> 0:43:50.719
<v Speaker 2>sooner or later because of his job, he was bound

0:43:50.760 --> 0:43:52.480
<v Speaker 2>to be arrested. There's just no way around it.

0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:53.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:43:53.440 --> 0:43:55.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so you're doing three hundred jobs.

0:43:55.480 --> 0:43:58.280
<v Speaker 2>And sometime in the earlier two thousands he was convicted

0:43:58.320 --> 0:44:01.080
<v Speaker 2>of cocaine trafficking and he was sent that's to eleven years,

0:44:01.360 --> 0:44:05.720
<v Speaker 2>but he totally denies ever being involved in drug dealing. Yeah,

0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:08.480
<v Speaker 2>in twenty thirteen, he was arrested for a fake credit

0:44:08.520 --> 0:44:10.880
<v Speaker 2>card scam. But it's not really It was hard to

0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:14.320
<v Speaker 2>find out like if he was convicted, did he serve time.

0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:15.520
<v Speaker 4>Or if he's with people who are.

0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Doing it right, I got to So the story in

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<v Speaker 2>Epic Magazine was picked up by twentieth Century Fox as

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<v Speaker 2>a possible movie, but it doesn't appear it was ever made,

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<v Speaker 2>and by twenty twenty, when he gave an interview with

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<v Speaker 2>Vice Italia, he said he was retired. He's still out there,

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<v Speaker 2>Vincenzo in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Kashmir Vincenzo, I tipped my cap to you, bro.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all I have. What's your ridiculous takeaway?

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<v Speaker 4>That this man is out there living my best life

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<v Speaker 4>and I only now hear about it. You know, I

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<v Speaker 4>got a lot of reading to do.

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<v Speaker 2>You really do watch, got to get to Venice.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I Bennie, I'm coming.

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