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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio Zaren Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: You know it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I do.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 4: Actually, the reason I know this is because one of

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Speaker 4: our listeners was kind enough to share something that I

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Speaker 4: particularly the interns handed it to me and I was like,

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Speaker 4: that's not ridiculous, that's genius. But they said it's ridiculous,

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Speaker 4: so I'm gonna go with them. Listener Ryan M. Ratley

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Speaker 4: aka Boo Ratley. They wrote in a message to the Instagram,

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Speaker 4: I believe and said quote something ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: But not a crime.

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Speaker 4: There is a tree in Georgia that legally owns itself

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Speaker 4: and the eight foot area around it's right. The former

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Speaker 4: owner of the land had so many good childhood memories

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Speaker 4: under the tree that when he died, he willed the

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Speaker 4: tree to itself in an effort to preserve it. In

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Speaker 4: nineteen forty two, a storm blew it over, but someone

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Speaker 4: saved an acorn from the tree and planted it on

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Speaker 4: the spot as the sun of the old tree. The

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Speaker 4: new tree legally inherited the land. So there is a

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Speaker 4: tree that owns the land inherited from its father.

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Speaker 2: A tree that is incredible. That is so beautifully ridiculous,

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Speaker 2: and I love it so much.

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Speaker 4: I want to go around giving and bestowing legal rights

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Speaker 4: on trees and rocks at rivers. I'm going to become

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Speaker 4: a lawyer just so I can do Who sent this

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Speaker 4: to us?

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Speaker 3: Ryan Ratley? That was dope. You made both our days.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and yes, it is ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: But it's also super awesome. That is ridiculously awesome. You

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Speaker 2: want to know what else is ridiculous? Oh yeah, I'm

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Speaker 2: here for stealing art only to give it right back.

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Speaker 2: What this is ridiculous crime. I'm a podcast about absurd

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Speaker 2: and outrageous caper's heiss and cons. It's always ninety nine

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Speaker 2: percent murder free and one hundred percent ridiculous. You heard

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Speaker 2: that we don't like murder, No, we do not. We

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Speaker 2: like principled thieves.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we like someone who does it for the people.

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Speaker 2: I this guy I'm going to tell you about does

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Speaker 2: it for the people's erin does he? He he hates

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Speaker 2: murderous and he's a principled thief.

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Speaker 3: I like that.

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Speaker 2: I think he may be one of my favorite crimers

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Speaker 2: we've had on here.

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Speaker 4: So really excited.

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Speaker 2: Yes, when he was about eight years old, he committed

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Speaker 2: his first crime.

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Speaker 3: I like, when you start young, it tells me we're

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Speaker 3: in very I know, right.

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Speaker 2: Eight years old crime. So at the time, he was

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Speaker 2: tired of the jobs that he'd had.

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Speaker 3: Numerous jobs.

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Speaker 2: He worked in a morgue for a little.

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Speaker 4: Bit, for a little bit and age.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he decided it wasn't for him. And then

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Speaker 2: he got a job working at a bakery. But he

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Speaker 2: kept eating all the baked goods.

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Speaker 4: Probably because he was angry child.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let him go. He got high on their supply.

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Speaker 2: So he retired from the traditional workforce in the age

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Speaker 4: Oh, I thought he started carrying like hot rivets on

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Speaker 4: the still buildings. He got a hopper and he was

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Speaker 4: climbing up.

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Speaker 2: No, he retired, and then he turned to a life

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Speaker 4: Oh good for him.

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Speaker 2: What was his first theft? He was walking by a

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Speaker 2: dairy and sitting, no, sitting outside, cattle rustler. Sitting outside

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Speaker 2: was a fifty liter milk tin, all right full and

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Speaker 2: that's like those.

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Speaker 3: Big old silver wants with a double handle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, I believe I will, said the boy,

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Speaker 2: or rather.

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Speaker 4: Oh yes, I believe I will. In Italian, thank you, Elizabeth,

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Speaker 4: I'll be translating if you want.

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Speaker 2: This is a good time to tell you that this

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Speaker 2: takes place in Venice, Italy. Okay, yes, in nineteen fifty one.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I like you.

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Speaker 2: That's when he's eight years old. This is three years

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Speaker 2: after The Bicycle Thief.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the movie Yeah totally and then really not

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Speaker 3: called it the Bicycle Thieves.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he grew up with the Thief and the bicycle

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Speaker 2: zikas the bicycle Thieves. I suppose you know that illustrated

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Speaker 2: the desk inspiration faced by Italians struggling in a war

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Speaker 2: torn So this little boy sees the milk rolls that

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Speaker 2: jug on home. When he gets to his house, his

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Speaker 2: dividing it up with the neighbors. He gotta live.

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Speaker 4: They're in post war depressions.

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Speaker 2: It's just great, exactly. So the boy then smashed up

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Speaker 2: the tin and sold it for scrap like the kids, right.

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Speaker 2: This little boy was named Vincenzo Peppinocen Vincenzo. He was

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Speaker 2: born in nineteen forty three in Venice and after the war,

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Speaker 2: his dad worked as a ferry boat captain. There was

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Speaker 2: no money, that's.

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Speaker 3: What was morning.

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Speaker 4: Do they have any like a tourist economy.

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Speaker 2: No, No, just rebuilding.

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Speaker 3: So they're doing the lace and moving boats around.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they over on Burano, they had they had a

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Speaker 2: really rough go of it. So Vincenzo starts stealing. This

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Speaker 2: is how he learns his way around those like labyrinthine

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Speaker 2: streets of Venice. Have you ever been to Venice?

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Speaker 4: No, I've never been.

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Speaker 2: I know a lot of people say Venice is an

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Speaker 2: overrated tourist trap, but it most certainly is not.

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Speaker 3: I love you've been a couple of times.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, as you know, there are no cars there.

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Speaker 2: You get around either on foot or by boat.

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Speaker 4: I love all the bridges.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and at night, the you know, the winding streets

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Speaker 2: so quiet. The place is amazingly sinister, but like in

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Speaker 2: a good way. It's not Savannah Georgia, sinister where the

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Speaker 2: sins of the past are haunted.

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Speaker 3: You can hear the chains in the wind.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, no offense Savannah. There are these quiet little neighborhoods

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Speaker 2: in Venice, beautiful areas outside of the tourist zone along

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Speaker 2: the Grand Canal.

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Speaker 3: I say this like I've just seen pictures, but yes,

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Speaker 3: I'm familiar.

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Speaker 2: It's not easy to navigate those streets. It's in no

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Speaker 4: Oh really, yeah, I had I had the canals like

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Speaker 4: in the Netherlands, like Amsterdam.

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Speaker 2: Not at all, not at all. It's all winding, you know, Serpentines.

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Speaker 2: I had a professor in grad school who had this

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Speaker 2: theory about how cities whose streets are laid out in

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Speaker 2: the grid are masculine and those with winding streets are feminine.

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Speaker 4: Are they a man or a woman?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 4: Interesting?

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Speaker 3: Did you agree with them?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It seems like a man's idea.

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Speaker 2: Barcelona's pretty much laid on a grid, but Barcelona feels

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Maggie, I haven't been to Barstone either, but looking

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Speaker 2: To think about when we're another anyway. Venice can feel

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Speaker 2: like a maze to the uninitiated.

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Speaker 4: Oh I bet.

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Speaker 2: But Vincenzo knew his way around as his little you know,

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Speaker 2: this little preteen thief, and soon he gets a gig

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Speaker 2: as a delivery boy. One day on the job, he's

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Speaker 2: walking down the street and he sees a thirty kilo

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Speaker 2: bag of sugar. I can't say where this bag was

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Speaker 2: or who was supposed to be watching it, but a

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Speaker 2: bag of that size may have well been full of gold.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, sugar.

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Speaker 2: At that point, sugar was at a premium. It took

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Speaker 2: a long time to rebuild after the war. England was

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Speaker 2: on rations for a few years after and they won. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so it took like five or six years for Italy's

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Speaker 2: economy to return to pre war levels, at least on paper.

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Speaker 4: Totally. I listened to all those old radio shows in

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Speaker 4: America they were also rationing sugar, where it's like, oh,

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Speaker 4: you got the blue stamps for sugar, then you ain't

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Speaker 4: getting it, and so.

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Speaker 2: You know, the reality on the street is always much

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Speaker 2: worse than sort of as you play out on the books.

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Speaker 2: So sugar was in demand at the time. People were

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Speaker 2: selling it by the gram like it was disco dust.

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Speaker 4: Yes, totally, just.

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Speaker 2: A graham for the holidays, as they'd say, that's it.

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Speaker 2: That's a shout out to all my nine o two

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Speaker 2: and oh loving palace from UC Davis Coaggi's So here's Vincenzo,

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Speaker 2: He's got thirty kilos of Hawaii's finest sweetened by the Sun.

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Speaker 2: His dad saw the bag and looked at the label

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Speaker 2: on the side. Property of the Italian navy. Yikes, that's

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Speaker 2: ben So he told his son to give it back.

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Speaker 2: So Vincenzo started to argue, and then his nana, his grandma,

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Speaker 2: piped up. No, She shouted, the sugar stays here. She's like, look,

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Speaker 2: I have seen things like we are.

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Speaker 4: Keeping this, who is it?

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Speaker 3: That's our navy, that's our sugar.

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Speaker 2: And what Nana says goes. So the family utn't get

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Speaker 2: By the time he was thirteen, his thieving was totally

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Speaker 2: So she hatched a plan. She told him that another

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Speaker 2: before he was born. You you don't remember this, Vincenzo.

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Speaker 2: This woman was coming home late and trying not to

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Speaker 2: make a lot of noise. Her leg gave out and

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Speaker 2: instantly when she was impaled on exposed nail. Yikes, I

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Speaker 2: so I believe it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, totally sounds painful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so the leg, the reason for the fall, was restless,

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Speaker 2: and now it haunted their building. It was a ghost leg.

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Speaker 3: Now just the leg.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The mom's like, there's a ghost leg and it

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Speaker 2: is cursing young boys who come home late. No, it's

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Speaker 2: not hopping, it's floating. But how does it anyway, So

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Speaker 2: a ghost leg had a name, okay, like the Golden Leg.

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Speaker 2: Vincenzo was terrified. He didn't want the ghost leg getting

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Speaker 2: him wriggling its little haunted toes at him, so he

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Speaker 2: changed his ways. He started stealing during the day.

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Speaker 4: Smart kid.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he still needed to creep out at night.

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Speaker 2: So he practiced, and he practiced until he became really

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Speaker 2: building spider spider Man style, you know, Spider Man d

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Speaker 2: DA style. That way, the ghost leg, which apparently lived

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Speaker 3: It totally makes ghost leg sense to me.

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Speaker 2: It totally makes sense. When he was at the ripe

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Speaker 2: age of fourteen, he learned a new trick. He was

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Speaker 2: out at the Lido, which is the beach area in Venice.

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Speaker 4: At fourteen fourteen, so he's like six years into his

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Speaker 4: crime curses. He's like still an apprentice journeyman. He's not

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Speaker 2: He gets there with this. It's like, so there's this

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Speaker 2: like Barrier Island beach area. He and his friends they

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Speaker 2: the changing huts where they had previously drilled holes brilliant,

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Speaker 2: and they would watch the ladies change into their swim suit.

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Speaker 2: But Vincenzo, he had more crimes on his mind than

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Speaker 2: So he had all these American dollars but nowhere to

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Speaker 2: So as he grew up, he graduated to burglarizing tobacconists

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Speaker 2: Can I pause for one second and say that we

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Speaker 3: My entire life.

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Speaker 4: I felt this every since I heard about it, whether

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Speaker 3: Did they call what we need?

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Speaker 2: Three? Totally like you just shut everything and shut everything

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth twenty twenty four. I'm telling you, Bumfardo is my

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Speaker 2: AnyWho where were Vincenzo and I on this one?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: He was tiptoeing across the rooftops to his Heidi hole.

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Speaker 2: He'd pop out the roof stopper, the old ceiling.

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Speaker 3: The old bunghole exactly.

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Speaker 2: And he'd slip into the jewelry store and it was

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Speaker 2: I felt like it was a common thing in entertainment

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Speaker 4: Do you remember how excited that people would get, like

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Speaker 2: Yes, I don't think they do that anymore, like as

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, and not like the TV shows where it's

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, back to Vincenzo. He would slip into the store

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Speaker 2: Do you know what he took next? Let's take a

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Speaker 2: we last met Zarin, Yes, clad I was telling you

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Speaker 2: about Vincenzo Peppinos.

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Speaker 3: I love him, dude, so far I'm digging them.

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Speaker 2: He's amazing. He was a petty thief in his younger days,

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Speaker 2: but he started to set his sights on bigger hauls.

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Speaker 2: Venice is brimming with art, from the works of the

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Speaker 4: Do you mean like all of them, like the ones

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Speaker 4: Or do you mean like those long.

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Speaker 2: Nose everything'll creepy?

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Speaker 4: All right, I didn't know if to just specifically the

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Speaker 2: when someone comes to my door throwing on and then

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Speaker 3: Oh god, he's young.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so art. You also then have the

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Speaker 2: Tintoretto Titian. I love the skies and Titian paintings. Yes,

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Speaker 3: Words of art. I just always think of the d

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Speaker 3: I can't help it. Forgive me.

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Speaker 2: So some of the greatest works of art were created there,

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Speaker 2: and even more were on display in a number of museums.

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Speaker 2: It was the perfect place to steal art. You know

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Speaker 2: here's the thing. In order to be a good art thief,

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Speaker 3: That it helps.

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Speaker 2: Since Vincenzo had learned to read and write while in prison,

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Speaker 2: he put those skills to work and he read everything

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Speaker 2: studying not just art history, but also Venetian aristocracy.

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Speaker 3: Oh smart patrons.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he wanted to know who kept what art in

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Speaker 3: Brilliant.

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Speaker 2: He became an expert, so in his career he pulled

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Speaker 2: off more than three thousand art thefts. Three thousands. Here's

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Speaker 4: Very good.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's very good at what he does. Here's

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Speaker 2: the craziest part. He never sold the art.

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Speaker 3: He just kept it off himself.

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Speaker 2: He basically held them until they could be returned. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he was the Yeah, well no, he would have them all,

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Speaker 2: you know, if you pay a little like ransom basically,

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Speaker 2: Funko pops.

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Speaker 3: Oh. So he's like, I really like the art. I'm

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Speaker 4: You're silver, I'm moving that, yes, and the fun and

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Speaker 3: Yes, I saw you slip that in there. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to let you do that to the

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Speaker 2: The cops knew him, and the cops liked him.

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Speaker 3: Wait for the Funko pops, for the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: The whole kitten Kabuter. There was one investigator in particular,

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Speaker 2: but you know, obviously for a cost, the aristocrats would

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Speaker 3: No Is he pretending like I know a guy who

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Speaker 2: He's like, let me talk to let me find out

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Speaker 2: who did I know who did it?

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Speaker 4: Let me talk to him?

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Speaker 2: Okay, cool, So everyone benefits Vincenzo. He makes a living

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Speaker 2: off you know, what's basically a ransom. The cops look

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Speaker 2: great because they've recovered these Yeah, the wealthy burglary victims.

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Speaker 2: They get their stuff back and they boast about being

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Speaker 3: I'm sure this isn't a sitcommon Italy.

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Speaker 2: So the aristocrats in the city they considered a theft

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Speaker 3: Honors, totally like I earned it.

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Speaker 4: He wanted to hit me exactly.

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Speaker 2: I have really good taste, like expensive stuff.

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Speaker 3: Do you know who robbed me the other day?

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Speaker 2: Now, Vincenzo had a younger brother named Alfredo, and sometimes

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Speaker 2: it does Alfredo has. Alfredo's career is amazing. He was

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Speaker 2: a magician, Alfred. So Alfredo and Vincenzo, they both said

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Speaker 2: Alfredo was not involved in any of this stuff. But

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Speaker 2: sometimes the cops would just arrest Alfredo anyway, breaking the

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Speaker 2: laws of physics with your magic, You.

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Speaker 4: Got any new tricks, Freddy.

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Speaker 2: Little Fredo. He did have an accomplice, though Vincenzo wasn't

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00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,359
Speaker 2: his brother. He had a bunch that he would use

443
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 2: my name Luigi. No. The one guy that he liked

444
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:55,720
Speaker 2: to use was a man named Claudio Claudio Claudio, and

445
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 2: he was there in a pinch. He was deaf, and

446
00:20:58,600 --> 00:20:59,920
Speaker 2: that made things a little difficult.

447
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,680
Speaker 3: Did I sign language talking communicate?

448
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of gesturing. I mean they do a

449
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:10,399
Speaker 2: lot of gest language. Yeah. So one of Vincenzo's favorite

450
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,400
Speaker 2: techniques when scoping out a grand palazzo was to carry

451
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 2: a pigeon, you know, just as a.

452
00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,159
Speaker 4: Pal just like Nicola Tesla is like Caaren and around

453
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 4: like this is my girlfriend.

454
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 2: Well, he'd let it go in the house and see

455
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:25,119
Speaker 2: if it tripped any motion detectors. Oh that's that's totally smart.

456
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 4: Wow, he was in his trained Imagine he's getting it

457
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:27,879
Speaker 4: right there.

458
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he uses the He was so good

459
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,120
Speaker 2: that there was an aristocrat named Count Barozzi who hired

460
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 2: him to steal from his friends. So if the Count

461
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 2: saw a piece at another rich person's house and he

462
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,119
Speaker 2: wanted it, he'd be like Vincenzo Okay, when you walk in,

463
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 2: it's on the left, and Vincenzo got it.

464
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,360
Speaker 4: I've never been there, right.

465
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 2: In nineteen seventy one, he stole from the private gallery

466
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 2: of Peggy Gougenheim. Oh yeah, twice, once in February, once

467
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 2: in December, or twice. He was a serious character. Here's

468
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 2: what Epic Magazine had to say. Quote. He once infiltrated

469
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 2: the Swiss consulate and made off with one hundred and

470
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 2: fifty million lira in cash. In the late nineteen seventies,

471
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,000
Speaker 2: he tailed Carrie Grant, who portrayed one of the most

472
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 2: famous thieves in film history, and robbed him while he

473
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 2: slept in his hotel room. Later, he freed a forlorn

474
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 2: gorilla from the zoo in Rome, he felt bad for

475
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,640
Speaker 2: the animal, and robbed the Venice casino, all of which

476
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 2: made him a local legend.

477
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 3: How is this guy living my best life?

478
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 2: I don't know how.

479
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 4: I mean now, I can't do any of these things

480
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 4: because he's done them all right.

481
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,639
Speaker 2: Well, he becomes known as the gentleman theater. He's a

482
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,239
Speaker 2: true gentleman in that sense. He was never violent, he

483
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 2: never carried a weapon, andis love him. This guy's amazing well.

484
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,360
Speaker 4: And he may have returned generalized.

485
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 2: He may have returned stolen items for a fee, but

486
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 2: he never blackmailed anyone. And that would have been easy

487
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 2: because he has embarrassing stuff.

488
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 3: And I'm sure that's the city with lots of embarrassing stuff.

489
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,400
Speaker 2: Right, So he had a code respect people. Don't use weapons,

490
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 2: don't steal from the poor, lawyers, doctors, magistrates or policemen,

491
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 2: and smart too when stealing from jewelers, leave some of

492
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 2: the gold, and don't take the jewelry that's being repaired

493
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 2: because it belongs to a customer who's already paid for it.

494
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 3: That's so nice, it's incredible.

495
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,640
Speaker 2: He was really sensitive while robbing people because.

496
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 4: He's taking the cream, like like the world's a dairy.

497
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,280
Speaker 2: Well. He dig through underwear drawers looking for jewelry, but

498
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 2: he made sure not to mess up the undies like

499
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 2: he kept everything in order because he knew that seeing

500
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 2: your private underthings tossed all over the place felt like

501
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 2: a real violation, more so than having your Picasso, macgreet,

502
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 2: Ernst Clee or Kandinsky taken from all Those are all

503
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:44,679
Speaker 2: artists that are told by the.

504
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 3: Way, Oh wow, those are all just like adorn your underwear.

505
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 2: Underwear that touches you. He says, quote to be a thief,

506
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 2: you need a little culture, a little intelligence. You have

507
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 2: to have a gentle good soul and to not be

508
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 2: arrogant with him so.

509
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,400
Speaker 3: Good, I know he wouldn't be writing his crimes down.

510
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 2: Yeah right, well we'll see. One time, in the middle

511
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 2: of stealing everything from a mansion owned by a countess,

512
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 2: the lady at the house returned and was like, who

513
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 2: are you. You're in my house. Vincenzo and Claudio said,

514
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 2: we are thieves. Don't worry, don't be afraid. We're not

515
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 2: going to harm you.

516
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 3: Like it the truth, and she's like, okay, I can

517
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 3: trust you.

518
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 2: Then they carried her suitcases upstairs for her before they

519
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 2: took off and escaped into the night.

520
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, good men, you just have a human moment.

521
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 2: That's right. He says that quote stealing from the super

522
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 2: rich is not a crime, and that he quote robbed

523
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 2: from the rich to give to the poor.

524
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 4: I super agree, you know.

525
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 2: He also said that quote I gave everything back and quote,

526
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 2: if I had just one percent of what I stole

527
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 2: over my career, I would be rich. But if I

528
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 2: had one percent of what I donated to the poor,

529
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 2: I would be even richer.

530
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 3: Wow.

531
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,719
Speaker 2: He would only steal from rich and people who wouldn't

532
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 2: be hurt by the theft financially. And he only stole

533
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 2: beautiful and valuable things. Not just valuable things, but if

534
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 2: it was a piece of beauty. He's like, you don't

535
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 2: deserve this. He believed that the theft was a price

536
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 2: that they had to pay for being rich.

537
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, looks, people can celebrate Jeff Bezos for being able

538
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 4: to skim a little off of all these workers and

539
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 4: get it becoming a billionaire. Yeah, I like this guy

540
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:17,679
Speaker 4: for skimming from the billionaire. And I'm like, look, we

541
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 4: just both were celebrating different skimmers.

542
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,719
Speaker 2: He would steal credit cards from the wealthy and then

543
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 2: go to grocery stores and buy food for working people.

544
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 3: Yes, see what I'm talking about.

545
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 2: Since it was covered by insurance, he figured that he

546
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 2: wasn't stealing from the rich. He was stealing from the bank.

547
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 2: And he really loved that. One time he saw an

548
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: old woman teleman begging on the street to go find

549
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 2: a job. He was livid, so he quietly followed her

550
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 2: home and he made a note where she lived. He

551
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 2: checked in every now and then, and after about a

552
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 2: month he decided it was time he broke into her

553
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 2: house and stole a bunch of valuables. After he left,

554
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 2: he was checking out his loot and he realized he'd

555
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:55,959
Speaker 2: accidentally taken an urn with the woman's husband's ashes in them. Ooh,

556
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 2: and he always returned personal and sentimental objects that he

557
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,439
Speaker 2: had mistakenly taken, but not this time. He dumped the

558
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 2: ashes over the rialto bridge into the Grand Canal, saying

559
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 2: to the ashes, quote, go, you're better off free in

560
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 2: the water than with your awful life.

561
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 4: Wow, that's kind of heavy. That's when you get into

562
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 4: like the Southern European of it all. Oh yeah, I

563
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 4: had to do this, And they're like, Okay, I'm not

564
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 4: going to argue.

565
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 3: I got it. You gotta do this. That's messed up.

566
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: His antics just continued. In the spring of nineteen ninety one,

567
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 2: he used a telescope on the bell tower in Piazza

568
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 2: San Marco, and he's like scoping out the nearby plaza.

569
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 2: He really had his eye on this one palazzo owned

570
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 2: by Raoul Gardini, a wealthy Italian entrepreneur and businessman. Sure

571
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 2: Vincenzo saw a skylight on the roof about forty feet

572
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 2: off the ground. A few days later, he and Claudio,

573
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: who you know, trustworthy nearly deaf, walked up to the

574
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 2: entrance of Palazzo Gardini. Claudio he guarded the alleyway entrance,

575
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 2: and Vincenzo scaled the crumbling facade to the roof, just

576
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 2: like he did as he was a kid, but now

577
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 2: he was forty eight.

578
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's no longer ghost leg right.

579
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: So he gets on the roof. The skylight's locked, but

580
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 2: the frame around it is all old and rotten, so

581
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 2: he just slips right. He enters the house, no alarms,

582
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 2: walks down the set of stairs, opens the door to

583
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 2: let Cloudio in. Cloudio can't hear him, so he has

584
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: to like go out and like wave him down, like

585
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 2: make a noise that come in and then waves him

586
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 2: in comedy. Oh yeah, they searched the house, including the bedroom,

587
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 2: and here's where Vincenzo and I are kindred spirits. Okay,

588
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 2: this man loves kashmir cashmere. If he saw something cashmere

589
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 2: he liked while on a highst he'd grab it, and

590
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 2: he became known for wearing cashmere sweaters, so this time

591
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 2: he finds a blue cashmere sweater that fit. He and

592
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 2: Claudio then work their way through the rest of the house.

593
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: Vincenzo ignores the artwork. He's like, this is not impressive.

594
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:58,679
Speaker 2: He's like, oh, this is fantastic, puts it on. Oh

595
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 2: this is better. So he'd seen and stolen better artwork.

596
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 2: He wasn't interested in the stuff there. He did find

597
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 2: some silverware worth more than over one hundred thousand dollars today.

598
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: In total, they stole around four hundred thousand dollars worth

599
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 2: of items they left. They loaded four duffel bags into

600
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 2: a borrowed water taxi and then escaped into the canals.

601
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: So good, they're very successful. In the fall of ninety eight,

602
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 2: Vincenzo was walking through the streets of Venice eating a pastry,

603
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 2: does another thing that I love about him, when he

604
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 2: noticed some large homes with closed shutters. So he did

605
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 2: some research and he discovered that one of the palazzi

606
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 2: belonged to a man named Alberto Falk FA l c K,

607
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 2: which is also.

608
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 3: Like the same spelling fa l CKK.

609
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 2: But it's like the ambulance service in Oakland's fault. And

610
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 2: that's why I always yelled, oh Falc when they.

611
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 4: Oh, that's why you yelled at yeah.

612
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 2: Oh Falc was it was. He was a wealthy businessman

613
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 2: from a really well known family in Milan. He also

614
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 2: had this extra home in Venice and appeared he was

615
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: currently away from it. So Vincenzo finds out that falk

616
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: owned a caniletto painting called Il fongetto de la Farina

617
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: The Source of Flower. This was one of Vincenzo's favorite paintings.

618
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 2: It shows this like bustling scene of merchants waiting along

619
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: the canal. Caniletto was an eighteenth century Venetian artist who

620
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: often painted scenes of Venice, and as the son of

621
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 2: the city, I feel like it must have really resonated

622
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 2: with him, this image. So one day Vincenzo and a

623
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 2: friend they enter Falkes home. They're mainly there to steal jewelry. However,

624
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,959
Speaker 2: Vincenzo sees the painting on the wall. He told the

625
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 2: Italian paper Lesthompa in two thousand and eight that it

626
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 2: seemed like the caniletto was calling to him. Do you know,

627
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's pretty large.

628
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 4: I imagine it's one of the biggest his paintings.

629
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 2: And it was begging him to take it out of there.

630
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: He said, quote, what was I supposed to do? Leave

631
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 2: it there? So like the ghost painting is.

632
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 3: Like take me with you.

633
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 2: In short, Vincenzo, he was captivated.

634
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 3: Divide it.

635
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 2: He said, no, it was the painting that stole me.

636
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 2: During the theft. It's around three am. Falk returns home. Oh, Falk.

637
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 2: He didn't see the thieves or the thefts though, And

638
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 2: after a bit, Vincenzo and his associate just leave. They

639
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: just kind of slip right out. Vincenzo said that if

640
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: he hadn't returned, they would have taken everything but the walls.

641
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 2: I mean, they were just going to bleed this guy. Still,

642
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 2: they stole so many bags of things, including the caniletto.

643
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: Like he knew that stealing the painting, which estimated to

644
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 2: be worth fifteen million euro.

645
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 3: Oh sure, but it's Manning stolen him. He's not giving

646
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 3: rid of that.

647
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 2: Well, he knew would complicate things like the government's going

648
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 2: to be notified and like, but he couldn't help himself.

649
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 2: So months after the theft, he calls Falk and he

650
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 2: told him that the painting I have it. Guess what

651
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 2: I'm the one with your painting, and he's like, I

652
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: will you need to donate it to the city of Venice,

653
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 2: and Falk's like, no, you need to give it back.

654
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 2: So Vincenzo eventually gives the painting back and he ended

655
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 2: up spending seven months in jail for that one, but

656
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 2: Falk later sent him some wine and three years later

657
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 2: allowed the painting to be shown in an exhibit, something

658
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 2: he hadn't done before. Now there's still one more major

659
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 2: heightst I want to tell you about when we come

660
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: back from this break, I'll introduce a new force to

661
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 2: be reckoned with the mafia Zaren Zaren Elizabeth Vincenzo Peppine.

662
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 2: Not long after that incident where he took the Kashmir

663
00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 2: sweater in the silverware, Vincenzo ran into a local mafio

664
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: so named Andrea Zamatillo U Zamatillo. He worked for a

665
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 2: guy named Philiche Manieioch man Happy Manieiro Filich is Philippe

666
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 2: Filiche Maniio was known on the street as Faccia DiAngelo.

667
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 3: The face of an angel, Angel Face.

668
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: Angel Face Zamatillo. He wanted to talk to vic.

669
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 3: His name is Happy and angel Face.

670
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 2: Well, hold on, so Zamatillo, he wants to talk to Vincenzo.

671
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 2: This is what it said in Epic magazine quote. Zamatillo

672
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 2: was a member of the Mala del Brenta, the local

673
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: mafia organization in the Venetto, the northeastern part of Italy

674
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: that includes Venice. Under the leadership of Filiche Manieiro. The

675
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 2: group had assassinated many of its rivals. Now they controlled

676
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: everything from water taxis to drug trafficking in Venice. So

677
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: the Mala del Brenta, it was kind of like the

678
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: Cosinostra or Camora model of crime family, only morel Yeah,

679
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: it started in the sixties. Though nineteen sixties, there were

680
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 2: a bunch of high ranking Sicilian mafia members who were

681
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 2: locked up in solitary confinement in prisons in the Veneto region.

682
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 3: Now, okay, that makes sense.

683
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 2: So they're trying to like send them as far away

684
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: as possible. Here are some of the heavy hitters. Salvatore Contorno,

685
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: Gitano Finzantati, Antonio.

686
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 4: I'm doing great so far.

687
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 2: Just keep on you go, and Salvae and Giuseppe Madiona.

688
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 3: There we go, there you go.

689
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: Those are some amazing names in.

690
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 3: The handjusters with them spot on.

691
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: They're horrible men, but I love their names. So the

692
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: criminal element up in the Venetto started reaching out to

693
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: these guys. Eventually they all joined up together and built

694
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: a really strong crime family. And the boss Filichim Niero,

695
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 2: the police, they're cracking down on the mafia across the country.

696
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: In that crackdown, one of Manieiro's cousins was arrested, and

697
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 2: you know there it is so.

698
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 4: The normal bribes.

699
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 2: The normal bribes to get the cousin out of jail

700
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 2: weren't working. Zarin, Yes, close your eyes, Oh yes, I

701
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 2: want you to picture it. You're a Mala del Brena

702
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 2: enforcer named Corrado, working with Felice Manieero's right hand man

703
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 2: Andrea Zamatio. The two of you are walking around just

704
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 2: at the foot of the famous Rialto bridge. You're headed

705
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: toward Riva Rialto. It's a well known restaurant along the

706
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: Grand Canal. It's a little touristy, but as you look up,

707
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: you realize the rye humor in choosing this place. Above

708
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 2: the awning hangs a large banner. It reads no Mafia

709
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 2: Venizia isakra, No Mafia venice is sacred. But there you

710
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 2: are two made men meeting up with an infamous thief.

711
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: You see Vincenzo sitting at a table under an awning

712
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 2: outside the restaurant. Gondolas and water taxis glide by in

713
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: the canal. You join them. Zamatio is serious. He tells

714
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 2: Vincenzo that Manierro wants him to lead a group of

715
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 2: armed henchmen into a museum called Ka Ratzunico. He's supposed

716
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 2: to steal the best paintings. You take a drag from

717
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 2: your cigarette and you stare at this Steve. His dark

718
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 2: brown Kashmir sweater is gorgeous.

719
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 3: I really like it, sky you.

720
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: You want to ask him where he got it, but

721
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 2: now it's not the time. Zamatillo tells Vincenzo that Maniaro

722
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,479
Speaker 2: would trade the stolen paintings for his cousin's release. He'd

723
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: also get a promise to take the heat off of

724
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 2: Mala del Brenta. Vincenzo doesn't like this. He stares out

725
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: at the canal and watches a mail boat drift by.

726
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 2: I have an idea, Vincenzo says to you. He gets up.

727
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 2: I'm going to steal a famous piece of art, he says,

728
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: and I'm going to do it alone. You ask him

729
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 2: which artwork, Vincenzo responds, Just read the newspapers you'll find

730
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 2: out and scene.

731
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 4: Okay, I was waiting for the mail boat and then

732
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 4: the female boat to go buy. Every time you say that,

733
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 4: I'm always like, it takes me a second. You take

734
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 4: like the male car on the train, I'm always like, Wow,

735
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 4: that's really stuck in there. I don't think of male

736
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 4: as an adjectives.

737
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, go, So Vincenzo, he did not work with

738
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 2: the mafia. He did not want to good call. This

739
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 2: kind of robbery would scare civilians.

740
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 3: We've seen how that works out. You have no one to.

741
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 2: Call well, and you can't you can't say no, they

742
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: can't hal a cop. If you do this kind of

743
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 2: thing that it's going to cause the museums to improve

744
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: their security. It's going to piss off the police. All

745
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 2: of this is going to make his job.

746
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 4: Harder, way harder, and he'll lose all of his good

747
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 4: reputations and good rapport with the cops, and it'll put

748
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 4: him over a barrel because they'll want more and more

749
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 4: and more.

750
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 2: Exactly, So this is what it said in Epic magazine.

751
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 2: Until now, the Big Boss hadn't meddled in Peppino's work.

752
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 2: But if Peppino was viewed as disloyal, Maniero could ban

753
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,720
Speaker 2: him from stealing in the region or simply haven't killed

754
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 2: options two options. On October ninth, nineteen ninety one, Vincenzo

755
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 2: joined a tour group at the Palazzo Ducale, the Doge's palace.

756
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 2: It's now a museum. It's located near Piazza San Marco,

757
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 2: and it's seen as a symbol of Venice. The group

758
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 2: crossed over the Bridge of Size. It's an enclosed, bifurcated

759
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: bridge to the former prison, and it got its name

760
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,920
Speaker 2: because it provided the last view of Venice that jailbirds

761
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 2: saw before they went to prison.

762
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 3: Oh that's nuts.

763
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: So they would sigh at the beauty of the city

764
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 2: and they're impending in carsons.

765
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 3: Oh wow.

766
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 2: Yeah.

767
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 3: Have you seen some of the studies.

768
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah. So Vincenzo he lagged behind the group

769
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: as it toured the bridge, and as the group left,

770
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 2: he hung back and he hid in one of the

771
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,480
Speaker 2: old cells. So after the museum closed, he stayed hidden

772
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: and he timed the guards round. He discovered that there

773
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 2: was just one guard on duty, and he came by

774
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 2: every forty five minutes. So around two am, Vincenzo crossed

775
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 2: back over the bridge into the main museum, into a

776
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: room called Sala de Cnsori. They were the historical protectors

777
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 2: of Venice's public institutions, and the room held a lot

778
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: of their portraits. But Vincenzo was focused on another painting,

779
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 2: La Madonna colbambino Madonna and child. Yeah, that was painted

780
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 2: in the early fifteen hundreds by a member of the

781
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 2: Viverini school. It symbolized the power of the Venetian state.

782
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 2: A comparison made is that it was like take it

783
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 2: would be like taking the Constitution from the capitol. It's

784
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 2: that important, really. Yeah. The painting was fourteen feet off

785
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 2: the ground, so it's way up there.

786
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 4: Wow.

787
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: He reached up to a ledge below it, but the

788
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 2: wooden ledge is old that starts cracking when he pulls

789
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: on it. So before he can make his next move, though,

790
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 2: he hears footsteps guard's back, so he runs to the bridge.

791
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: He chose the side of the bridge, luckily that the

792
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 2: guard did not walk down. When the guard turned around,

793
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 2: Vincenzo returned to the cell to hide and regroup for

794
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 2: another forty five minutes, so it's now around three am.

795
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 2: When the guard finally passed again. Vincenzo ran to a

796
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 2: supply closet, grabbed a ladder, climbed up to the painting,

797
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 2: used a knife to separate it from the wall, covers

798
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 2: it with a blanket, tucks it under his arm, leaves

799
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: the museum. The next morning, a janitor discovered and reported

800
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 2: the theft, and the city freaks out.

801
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 3: Yeah he sold the constitution, Yeah exactly.

802
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: Oh totally, So the police come to investigate. There are

803
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 2: no clues except for a shoe print left where dust

804
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,959
Speaker 2: from the painting had fallen. The forensics team they figured out, okay,

805
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 2: these are clarks and the finally little soft shoes I know.

806
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 2: And then the following morning they let Detective Paul Mossy know.

807
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: But before Paul Mosy could send officers to arrest Vincenzo

808
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 2: and take his shoes, he saw the morning's paper. Someone

809
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: from the museum talked to a reporter because the article

810
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 2: noted that the only evidence that at the scene was

811
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 2: a shoe print. So Vincenzo takes his shoes, fills them

812
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 2: with Rocks throws them into the canal. Police show up,

813
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 2: no shoes. Paul Mosey is angry and he threatens Vincenzo

814
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 2: with police surveillance. And that meant that any interaction with

815
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 2: anyone considered a criminal would land him in jail. And

816
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 2: that's like most of his friends. So he promised he

817
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 2: would return the painting, and more than that, he'd give

818
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 2: it back in twenty days.

819
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 4: This is like the moment where like the police captain

820
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 4: goes to the loose cannon, give.

821
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 3: Me your badge, and you're gun. You're off the forest.

822
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 2: I can't trust you to the loose cannon.

823
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 4: Criminal, criminal exactly.

824
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 2: Okay, So he says, I'll get it to you in

825
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 2: twenty days. Details about how he got the painting back,

826
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: you know, given by the man himself, are hazy. He

827
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: contradicts himself in his various tellings. So you said he

828
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: didn't write these things down in twenty ten. I see

829
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 2: he wrote a book. Stealing from the rich isn't a sin.

830
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 3: Well with a book, okay, I'll give him that. Yeah,

831
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:17,720
Speaker 3: we all know what happened with the books.

832
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, So he said that he actually arranged to have

833
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 2: Manieero return the painting in twenty Days as part of

834
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 2: his initial discussions with the mafia. That doesn't really make

835
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 2: sense given the purpose of the painting as a negotiation tool,

836
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,920
Speaker 2: but whatever. So in other places he said, he just

837
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: you know what, I was on vacation in the Seychelles

838
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 2: when it was supposed to be returned. I didn't have

839
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: anything to do with this. That doesn't make sense.

840
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 4: That's an odd one.

841
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: In twenty fourteen, he told Epic magazine a totally different story,

842
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 2: and he said, well, this is hypothetical and like, nothing

843
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 2: I'm about to say is what happened. But if I

844
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 2: did it so, according to this version, shortly after the

845
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 2: Doge's Palace theft, he visited many Arrow at home under

846
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 2: the pretense of making sure the painting was being properly stored,

847
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 2: and it would be really detrimental to both of them

848
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 2: it was if it was damage, so I just want

849
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 2: to check on it. Vincenzo was told that it was

850
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,320
Speaker 2: being stored in a shed behind Maniero's cousin's house nearby,

851
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 2: and that's where Maniero also kept his pets, so it

852
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: is good to check on this thing, Vincenzo. He then

853
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: had a forger friend paint a replica of the middana,

854
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: and then he also had a veterinarian friend pick up

855
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 2: some tranquilizers in case he needed them for Manieo's pets.

856
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: So a week later it's like tenant night Vincenzo. He

857
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 2: goes to Manniero's cousin's house. He has the replica painting,

858
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 2: he has the drugs. When he approaches the shed, he

859
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,280
Speaker 2: sees that one of the pets is in a caged

860
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: run in front of it in front of the shed,

861
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 2: but instead of the expected guard dog, it's a tiger.

862
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 2: What it's a tiger?

863
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 4: What this is where they the mafia part jumps out.

864
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 2: So he puts one of the tranquilizers into a piece

865
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 2: of steak that he brought, you know, and he feeds

866
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 2: it to the tiger, and after thirty minutes the tiger

867
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 2: falls asleep.

868
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 4: Oh good for him, right big.

869
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Speaker 2: As he makes his way inside, he sees the painting,

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Speaker 2: but he sees something else, another tiger. No, he had

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Speaker 2: more meat on him and he had more tranquilizers. So

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00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 2: he feeds it the tiger and the tiger falls asleep too.

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00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: He's like, all right, sick, ready for y'all so he

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00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 2: grabs the stolen painting, replaces it with the replica, and

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Speaker 2: then it escapes back into them.

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Speaker 4: They have guard tigers, guard tigers.

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Speaker 2: You're still they have guard painting is guarded by tigers.

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Speaker 4: This is what I want in movies and they have

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Speaker 4: it in reality.

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Speaker 2: Exactly. No, this is why Venice is amazing.

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Speaker 4: And the criminals they want life to be like movies.

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Speaker 4: I want life to be like Venice, right.

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Speaker 2: We all do. November seventh, nineteen ninety one, the Venice

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Speaker 2: police held a press conference. The madonna had been returned.

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Speaker 2: It had been found via an anonymous tip Maniera's cousin

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00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: was eventually released after being you know the negotiations for him,

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Speaker 2: but Sanniio claims it was thanks to returning a different artifact.

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00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 2: He'd stolen Saint Anthony's tongue and jaw bone rob from

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Speaker 2: a church and patava by unidentified men with shotguns the

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00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 2: day after Vincenzo had stolen the madonna. I think I

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Speaker 2: now have to do an Italian relic theft.

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Speaker 3: Hell yeah? Did they do it? As like like we

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00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 3: need some leverage?

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Speaker 4: Like all right, we will give you back the jaw

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Speaker 4: bone if you give me back our boss basically.

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Speaker 2: So throughout his career, Vincenzo says he stole nearly a

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Speaker 2: ton of gold and hundreds of carrots of precious stones.

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Speaker 2: He says he probably you know, like I said, what

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Speaker 2: was it, three thousand thefts, but he's like it probably more. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He spent a total of around twenty to twenty five

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Speaker 2: years in jail when you add it all up for

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00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: his various thefts, oh little bits here and there. And

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00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: he said that he was aware of the fact that

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Speaker 2: sooner or later because of his job, he was bound

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Speaker 2: to be arrested. There's just no way around it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're doing three hundred jobs.

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Speaker 2: And sometime in the earlier two thousands he was convicted

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Speaker 2: of cocaine trafficking and he was sent that's to eleven years,

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Speaker 2: but he totally denies ever being involved in drug dealing. Yeah,

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00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 2: in twenty thirteen, he was arrested for a fake credit

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00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 2: card scam. But it's not really It was hard to

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Speaker 2: find out like if he was convicted, did he serve time.

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Speaker 4: Or if he's with people who are.

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Speaker 2: Doing it right, I got to So the story in

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Speaker 2: Epic Magazine was picked up by twentieth Century Fox as

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Speaker 2: a possible movie, but it doesn't appear it was ever made,

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Speaker 2: and by twenty twenty, when he gave an interview with

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Speaker 2: Vice Italia, he said he was retired. He's still out there,

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Speaker 2: Vincenzo in the.

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Speaker 3: Kashmir Vincenzo, I tipped my cap to you, bro.

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Speaker 2: That's all I have. What's your ridiculous takeaway?

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00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 4: That this man is out there living my best life

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00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 4: and I only now hear about it. You know, I

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00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 4: got a lot of reading to do.

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Speaker 2: You really do watch, got to get to Venice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I Bennie, I'm coming.

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