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Speaker 2: You know, I feel like we're always really good with

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Speaker 2: the chat answering their questions.

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Speaker 1: Do either of you have a question for the chat question.

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Speaker 3: Of who do we think wins? Is world series? That's

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Speaker 3: the question who do we think wins?

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Speaker 4: And I know Dodger fans are gonna say the Dodgers

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Speaker 4: and Blue Jays fans are gonna say the Blue Jays.

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Speaker 4: But the people who aren't one of their fans, who's

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Speaker 4: gonna win? Because it's down to best of three and

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Speaker 4: everyone thought this was kind of gonna be a whitewashing

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Speaker 4: by the Dodgers, and it hasn't been. It's been a

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Speaker 4: very competitive, very fun series to watch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no wash out. Let's start Best Step three, Best

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Speaker 1: Step three.

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Speaker 2: Baby, Here's where I'm gonna start before we charge. So

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Speaker 2: I had a back and forth with a fan, and

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Speaker 2: I've done this with a few of the great Blue

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Speaker 2: Jays fans. You know, we always do a segment or

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Speaker 2: a show like our post game show last night, and

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Speaker 2: you get the crowd.

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Speaker 1: That goes, oh, they love the Dodgers, Oh they love

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Speaker 1: the Blue Jays.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 2: We got that almost every show now, which is great.

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Speaker 2: That means we're doing our jobs. Yes, So I decided

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Speaker 2: to engage with one. Oh why because I enjoy it?

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Speaker 4: You enjoy torture, enjoy you enjoy torture, or you enjoy

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Speaker 4: arguing with someone that doesn't have earlier reason.

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Speaker 2: I'm actually like trying to promote peace by saying, hey, like,

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Speaker 2: how can we be better for you?

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Speaker 1: And let me explain my perspective here? Right. So I

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Speaker 1: went through the entire rundown of what we.

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Speaker 2: Did last night, right right, because he's like, hey, you

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Speaker 2: guys are just talking about the Dodgers offense not performing.

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Speaker 2: What about respect for the Blue Jays, Like you guys

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Speaker 2: don't even watch them? Or I've watched every Blue Jays

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Speaker 2: postseason game, every Blue.

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Speaker 1: Jays postseason game.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I went through how we spent what twelve

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Speaker 2: minutes on the postgame show to start, and it was

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Speaker 2: all about Vlad and the big seventh inning, etc. Right,

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Speaker 2: So we went through the whole thing, and I just

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Speaker 2: said and he appreciated that, and his response was more

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Speaker 2: about how he feels like the one Canadian team in

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Speaker 2: the sport doesn't get respect and how it's looked at

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Speaker 2: in the US. I have replied to him, Ye, because

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it on this show. We do not

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Speaker 2: care where the team resides.

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Speaker 4: Why would we care where the team resides. I mean,

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Speaker 4: we did a whole thing on the expos.

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Speaker 1: I think it's cool that there's a team in Canada.

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Speaker 4: I think there are I wish there was a team

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Speaker 4: in London, Tokyo when I was playing. That would have

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Speaker 4: been awesome to flight all those different places in play. Like,

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Speaker 4: I love going to Canada, you know, other than other

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Speaker 4: than the ketchup is a little bit different when you

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Speaker 4: go to like McDonald's and there's things that tastes just

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Speaker 4: I enjoyed going there. I enjoyed the Rogers Center. I

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Speaker 4: didn't hit very well there, but I still enjoyed going there.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think krats for me. The perception from some is, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: they're just paying attention to their own country. And if

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Speaker 2: and so they're never relevant, right like Rockies fans have

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Speaker 2: much more beef.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Blue Jays.

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Speaker 2: We talk about the Blue Jays a ton, and I

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Speaker 2: And I think there's nothing that says, oh, they're in Canada,

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Speaker 2: so let's give them.

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Speaker 1: Less attention, or like let's watch less games of them.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not speaking for you know, the Yankees and

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Speaker 2: Blue Jays have beef with the broadcasters, like fun beef.

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Speaker 2: Oh they're not good, they're not relevant. Both sides have

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Speaker 2: done that all year. We're not involved in that. But

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Speaker 3: No, I could really care less where the team is,

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Speaker 6: Besides AJ hating the Cubs, I'm pretty sure there's no

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Speaker 6: way we're going to cover any team less that's in

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Speaker 6: the World Series. If it was the Cubs, maybe we

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Speaker 3: We would cover them. You're right, we would.

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Speaker 6: But no, it doesn't matter that they're in Canada. They

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Speaker 6: they're a big league team. As long as they're a

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Speaker 6: same amount of love and the same amount of hate

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: That's all so I was. I'm not complaining. It's not

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Speaker 2: like a back and forth fight. I just wanted more

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Speaker 2: for our Canadian events to know that we love you

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Speaker 2: just as much.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and with that, let's charge we have no problem

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Speaker 1: charge about And with that we're going to start talking

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Speaker 3: Well are we Why now we.

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Speaker 1: Can go either direction.

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Speaker 2: This is just a ten minute preview before we talked

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Speaker 2: to Ken Rosenthal. Oh but after our postgame show, which

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Speaker 2: we'll do another postgame show after the next game, Game five.

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Speaker 2: But after our Game four post game show, Dave Roberts

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Speaker 2: our show.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to sleep.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna think long and hard at night about any

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Speaker 2: potential lineup changes. Okay to me, that means he's going

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Speaker 2: to make at least one change. When you start saying that,

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Speaker 2: I feel like one change.

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Speaker 3: What's a change?

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Speaker 3: It's call for pahes.

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Speaker 1: I'm you know.

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Speaker 2: I was up, couldn't sleep last night and started looking

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Speaker 2: into Kim and his numbers because I'm like, why is

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Speaker 1: They don't think that.

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Speaker 2: I think he's I like that idea. Let's figure out

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Speaker 2: a way to get Kim in the lineup, Kratz, what

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Speaker 3: I don't think they'll go that far outside the box

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Speaker 3: for some reason. I don't think they've they've let him.

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Speaker 6: I think my suggestion the other day, if Tommy Edmond

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Speaker 6: change is probably call I think that's kind of a

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Speaker 6: boring change in my opinion, because he's gonna have a

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Speaker 6: Kim would give you. I think Kim would give you

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Speaker 6: a little bit of that you know, twenty nineteen Dodgers

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Speaker 6: platoon advantage that you're looking for.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, so we'll see what he does.

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Speaker 2: Now, pitching wise, let's start just while we're on on

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Speaker 2: Dave Roberts with how the Dodgers plan to.

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Speaker 1: Attack Trey Savage.

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Speaker 4: But it's so quick that you don't see anything and

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Speaker 4: Well, then if now guys throw high fastballs and split,

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Speaker 4: That's that's the thing with the split. That's why to me,

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Speaker 1: Okay, so that's the Dodgers attack plan. What about the

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Speaker 3: The same exact one they had on Snow in the

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Speaker 3: So he never ever gives in. He never just says like.

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Speaker 1: So do you need to take more against him? Even

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Speaker 4: That's what the Blue Jays did. But he was kind

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Speaker 3: I don't want to if.

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Speaker 4: I'm especially if I'm hitting off him, don't I want

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Speaker 6: No, no, no, I mean not giving in just means

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Speaker 6: think we talked about it in Game one, and I

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Speaker 6: think the Blue Jays did a good job. Part of

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Speaker 6: Everything is going to be going on a downhill plane.

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Speaker 6: That slider has been nasty besides the last time out,

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Speaker 6: So I think guys that catch pitchers out front will

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Speaker 2: and a half Shane Bieber this from Mitch mannon The Athletic.

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Speaker 2: Shane Bieber said it was Sureser who prompted his offering

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Speaker 3: Pitch veteran guy? He knew it wasn't gonna be him

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Speaker 2: He's smart though, like beebes, can I interest you in

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Speaker 1: But hey, that's what a veteran.

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Speaker 3: That's a veterans are supposed to do.

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Speaker 2: Or when you sign a guy and you're like, hey,

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Speaker 4: Teams don't understand that. They're like, oh, we got we

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Speaker 4: for seven to fifty. The experience, excuse me. The experience

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Speaker 3: Like these are the guys who sat down Tom Prince.

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Speaker 4: He sat down and talked to him for a long time,

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Speaker 3: Works and how the game works.

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Speaker 4: And now those guys are kind of going away and

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Speaker 4: I'm not talking about superstar players. I'm just talking about

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Speaker 2: Also, it doesn't work, bieb said Bullpen later in the series.

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Speaker 1: Ken, good to see you.

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Speaker 2: I'll start a big picture and then we'll focus on

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Speaker 2: a couple more detailed topics. So the column you put

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Speaker 2: Resilient Blue Jays insist on keeping things loose. Just from

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Speaker 2: judging that article by its cover, doesn't every team try

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Speaker 5: Both and I addressed this in the article.

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Speaker 7: Great teams always talk about how resilient they are, how

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Speaker 5: The odds, how people are against them, all this stuff.

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Speaker 7: But the Blue Jays have demonstrated this time and again

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Speaker 7: Game five.

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Speaker 5: Win that.

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Speaker 7: So what they did in this game last night, without

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Speaker 5: For a few weeks, it's a special quality.

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Speaker 7: And I can't say it's more special than any other

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Speaker 4: Ken, at what point are you media folks that are

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Speaker 4: Are you guys gonna stop being surprised by what the

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Speaker 4: they're down to the Mariners, they lose the first two games. Oh,

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Speaker 4: the Dodgers, like you said many times, are just gonna

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Speaker 3: And how good.

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Speaker 5: First of all, First of all, I never said that.

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Speaker 7: Of all, AJ don't play the U media folks game

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Speaker 5: The right time.

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Speaker 7: Now what has happened is the Blue Jays have gotten

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Speaker 5: So this series, in my mind, was never going to

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Speaker 7: Now I'm not so sure, to be perfectly honest, because

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Speaker 6: Does this become a win for the Blue Jays because

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Speaker 6: So does this become a must win for the Blue

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Speaker 7: You can look at it one of two ways, Eric,

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Speaker 5: You've got Yamamoto in game six.

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Speaker 7: He's coming off back to back complete games, brilliant performances.

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Speaker 5: You gotta win tonight.

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Speaker 7: But to go back to the original question that Scott asked,

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Speaker 5: We know what happened. And yet they go back home

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Speaker 7: They go back to Toronto, and who knows what might

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Speaker 5: Granted, Yamamoto was brilliant.

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Speaker 7: that he can, but I don't know Eric that anything

443
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Speaker 7: we've seen this postseason, even in the regular season, has

444
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Speaker 7: gone according to what we necessarily expected. And if this

445
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Speaker 7: series has one or two more surprises, that wouldn't surprise

446
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Speaker 7: me either. It would be nice for Toronto and they're

447
00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,280
Speaker 7: pursued here to win tonight. Obviously, with Yamamoto in Game six,

448
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Speaker 7: I don't think it's a must win.

449
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Speaker 4: I would think it's more of a must win for

450
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Speaker 4: the Dodgers with Snell going as good as Snell was.

451
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Speaker 4: I know he wasn't great in Game one, but to me,

452
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Speaker 4: this is a bit because you don't want to have

453
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Speaker 4: to go back.

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Speaker 3: To Toronto and have to win two games.

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Speaker 4: Everyone has kind of figured out that Toronto's a really

456
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Speaker 4: hard place to play when the Blue Jays are good.

457
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Speaker 4: You saw the watch party last night. There was I

458
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Speaker 4: don't know how many people were in the Rogers Center

459
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Speaker 4: slash SkyDome cheering and going crazy. Imagine if it comes

460
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Speaker 4: back for Game six and seven and everything's on the line,

461
00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,200
Speaker 4: that place is gonna forget the whole place.

462
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Speaker 3: All country's gonna be going insane.

463
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Speaker 7: That's true, and it's a good point because the Dodgers

464
00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,760
Speaker 7: again tonight seemingly have the pitching matchup in their favor, Snell,

465
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:05,520
Speaker 7: you would think would be better.

466
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Speaker 5: He said fastball command was the issue in his last start.

467
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Speaker 7: He wasn't good by his estimation in that performance, and

468
00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,959
Speaker 7: with the Blue Jays it's the Savage for the second

469
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Speaker 7: straight start on four days rest. As Velo was down

470
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Speaker 7: about a mile per hour on four days rest, which.

471
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Speaker 5: He hasn't done a lot in his previous start.

472
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Speaker 7: In Game one, so you would think that, yes, this

473
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Speaker 7: is a game the Dodgers should win. But you probably

474
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Speaker 7: would have thought that last night, especially without Springer. I

475
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Speaker 7: wouldn't expect Springer to play tonight either, But this will

476
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Speaker 7: be interesting tonight because again the Dodgers' offense, and I

477
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Speaker 7: expect a lineup change. Pa Haes will probably be out

478
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Speaker 7: of there tonight. The Dodgers' offense, except when Otani is

479
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Speaker 7: rolling and maybe Freeman is doing some things, they're not

480
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 7: doing a whole lot, and that's a problem pa Haes.

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Speaker 6: You just mentioned pa Haes being out. Is it just

482
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Speaker 6: a simple Alex call because that's who's come off the

483
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Speaker 6: bench the most. Or is there something where we asked

484
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Speaker 6: Tommy Edmund to go to center field? Is it Kim

485
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Speaker 6: in there? Miguel Rojas or is it just an easy swap.

486
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Speaker 6: You think it's just an easy swap of Call, that

487
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Speaker 6: would be my expectation.

488
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Speaker 7: Then it would be Call with Kik moving to center.

489
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Speaker 7: Tommy Edmund has had that ankle issue. He hasn't played

490
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Speaker 7: the outfield in a long time, even taken fly balls

491
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Speaker 7: in quite some time, so.

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't expect it to be Edmund.

493
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Speaker 7: There is a way if you put Edmund out there,

494
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Speaker 7: that's how you get Rojas into the infield. But I

495
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Speaker 7: just don't see that coming. What I see is Call

496
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Speaker 7: in left and keyk in center. It's not ideal defensively,

497
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Speaker 7: and that's why Dave Roberts has resisted doing it, because

498
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Speaker 7: this is a team right now built on its pitching.

499
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Speaker 7: But Pie Is I believe it's four for fifty right

500
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,119
Speaker 7: now in the postseason. It's not good enough, and the

501
00:21:55,400 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 7: bats are largely empty. They are seemingly on the verge

502
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Speaker 7: of a change here.

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Speaker 3: They have to make this change.

504
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Speaker 4: Ken, Do you think that they have to make this

505
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Speaker 4: change because it's not like call Is. I mean, I

506
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Speaker 4: know Calls a kind of a left handed specialist. Is

507
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Speaker 4: this just making a change to make a change? Why

508
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Speaker 4: not Kim at second base and try Edmund in the outfield.

509
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Speaker 3: Why not?

510
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Speaker 4: I don't know, try something completely different. Like I feel

511
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Speaker 4: like if you throw Kim out there, maybe it's a

512
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Speaker 4: different dynamic. It's a guy that puts them all playing,

513
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Speaker 4: can run and might put some pressure on the Blue Jays.

514
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Speaker 4: But Bets hasn't. I mean, you guys showed it on

515
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Speaker 4: the post game last night. Bets is not well, Kyk

516
00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 4: is not well.

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Speaker 1: Pa Hayes.

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Speaker 3: Obviously we know those struggles, but there's.

519
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Speaker 4: Not it's really show Hey and Freddy once he hasn't

520
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 4: done much right, it's really show Hey and Freddy if

521
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Speaker 4: they don't hit. But I mean you go back to

522
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Speaker 4: the extra innings. Freddy's really the only one that did anything.

523
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Speaker 4: They walked show Hey every time, clearly, but it's been

524
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Speaker 4: show Hey and Freddy and the rest of the lineup

525
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Speaker 4: is has been kind of like, ah, we're just.

526
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Speaker 3: Going through them.

527
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Speaker 4: Not they're going through the motions, but we're just like

528
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Speaker 4: they're nothing, no damage, no anything.

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Speaker 7: Really, Aja, you're right, And the question with Edmund versus

530
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Speaker 7: Kim or with Kim, if Edmund can't do it physically

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Speaker 7: in center field, then it's not a question, No Rojas. No, Kim,

532
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Speaker 7: you can't move Edmund off of the infield, so you

533
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Speaker 7: ask if they have.

534
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Speaker 1: To do it.

535
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 5: No, they don't have to do it, and you can

536
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Speaker 5: keep your defense intact.

537
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Speaker 7: But essentially you've got a dead spot right now in

538
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Speaker 7: front of Otani and the way they are playing.

539
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Speaker 5: In my view, they need a jolt.

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't even be surprised if Dave Roberts shook up

541
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Speaker 7: the order tonight because they need some kind of different look,

542
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Speaker 7: something to change the energy of that offense. And obviously

543
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Speaker 7: one good night would change everything, right, that's how the

544
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 7: postseason works. You look at it differently, but they really

545
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 7: haven't had a good night in a while. They're averaging

546
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Speaker 7: since the Division Series, I'm sorry, since the Wildcard round

547
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 7: three point seventy five runs per game.

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Speaker 5: That's not good enough.

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Speaker 7: Even though they keep winning because mostly they're pitching has

550
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Speaker 7: kept them going, they are not a team right now

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Speaker 6: Is there a chance Springer gets to that bat in

572
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Speaker 6: the rest of the World series? Because if not, is

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Speaker 6: the fear of him looming like, oh, he had his

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575
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Speaker 7: They're knocking on my door here, guys, even with the

578
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Speaker 7: privacy sign on, I don't believe Springer will play again.

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Speaker 7: But they're holding out hope. And the way john Stein

580
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Speaker 7: had described it to me last night on this in

581
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Speaker 7: the in game interview was, Hey, he made progress today.

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Speaker 5: We think he may be a go tomorrow.

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Speaker 7: I don't know that that's true, and we'll see the

584
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 7: truth will come out in the lineup.

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Speaker 5: When we see the lineup. But he is a guy

586
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Speaker 5: that is really tough. We know that.

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Speaker 7: We also know that leaks are really tricky, and that's

588
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Speaker 7: what he's dealing with, or seemingly some kind of issue

589
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Speaker 7: in his side, and because of that, I just can't.

590
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Speaker 5: See him recovering that quickly.

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Speaker 7: The kneecap that was bad, right, and he came back

592
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Speaker 7: with only a day off between Games five and six

593
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Speaker 7: of the ALCS, But it's really hard to do when

594
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Speaker 7: you've got a side issue and he swings as violently

595
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Speaker 7: as he does, so I have a hard time believing

596
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Speaker 7: that he's going to play. And if he does, more

597
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Speaker 7: power to him. I remember David Popkins, the hitting coach,

598
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Speaker 7: saying in the ALCS after he got hit in Game five,

599
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Speaker 7: you're gonna have your Kirk Gibson moment. This would be

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Speaker 7: I don't know Kirk Gibson times too, because Springer already

601
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Speaker 7: had that moment in Game seven of the ALCS.

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Speaker 4: Ken By the way, the Blue Jays, I mean, I

603
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 4: know Springer has been great for him in the postseason,

604
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Speaker 4: but Boba schet stepped in and is doing a nice

605
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 4: job as the dch It's not like they didn't have

606
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Speaker 4: anybody to step in, and it actually kind of it

607
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Speaker 4: improved their defense and kept their offense similar to when

608
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Speaker 4: Baschette was out and they had so it's not like

609
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 4: it was the end of the world. And that's a

610
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 4: good thing for the Jays organization that they had the

611
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Speaker 4: depth to do that. Now we've talked about Snow, We've

612
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 4: talked about you Savage.

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Speaker 3: What about the bullpens.

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Speaker 4: I thought, you know, Dave Roberts threw a lot of

615
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Speaker 4: his guys out there other than Sazaki yesterday to try

616
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 4: to keep them in that game, whereas the Blue Jays

617
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 4: they used Bassett.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they use violin every day, so that doesn't

619
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Speaker 3: really count.

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Speaker 4: But you know who's more ready for this game five

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Speaker 4: on the third day. I feel like the Blue Jays

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Speaker 4: might be in a better spot bullpen wise, after the

623
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Speaker 4: eighteen inning game and then yesterday than the Dodgers because

624
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Speaker 4: the Dodgers did use a bunch of their guys up

625
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Speaker 4: yesterday to try to keep that game close.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm still not in love with either bullpen.

627
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Speaker 7: Even after the at and any game, which was a

628
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 7: tremendous performance by both and you cannot take that away

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Speaker 7: from them. But you're right, Ajay, based on last night

630
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Speaker 7: and the way it went down. Yes, maybe the Dodgers

631
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 7: used some of their guys to an extent that they

632
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 7: weren't going to be comfortable with using them today. But

633
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Speaker 7: Bassett through two innings after one inning of the night before,

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Speaker 7: I believe, only twenty pitches. He is a guy that

635
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Speaker 7: has a rubber arm. He can pitch, so that's a

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00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 7: good sign for them. Flu Hardy, of course, was really

637
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Speaker 7: good last night, and they're gonna need him to be

638
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 7: really good because Brendan Little he's.

639
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Speaker 5: Given up two huge homers in the postseason now, so.

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Speaker 7: From the left side, it's really flu Hardy and Little,

641
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Speaker 7: and you don't want to use Little. And the other

642
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 7: one is Eric Louer, but he's more of a long guy.

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Speaker 7: And of course he threw four or two thirds innings

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Speaker 7: in the eighteen inning game.

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Speaker 5: So I'm not sure I would give either team the

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00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 5: edge with the bullpen, but.

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Speaker 7: The Blue Jays because of what they're doing right now

648
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Speaker 7: and Hoffman not being necessarily a big part of the

649
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Speaker 7: picture so far except a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Yes, they should be well positioned.

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Speaker 1: Ken, good stuff.

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Speaker 2: That was your call from the bullpen that you ignored,

653
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,719
Speaker 2: so you can tell them to leave you alone.

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Speaker 1: You made your Ken?

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Speaker 3: What did you do?

656
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Speaker 4: I want to know what Ken did during the eighteen

657
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Speaker 4: inning game because, first of all, like I did a

658
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Speaker 4: proof of life check on Ken about the sixteenth inning

659
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Speaker 4: because I hadn't heard from him in so long, so

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Speaker 4: and I know I think Hazel May asked for pizza,

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Speaker 4: So did you have pizza sent down there?

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Speaker 3: What did you do during this eighteen inning game?

663
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 4: Because after about the sixth inning, Ken, you were non existent,

664
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 4: So I was just that's why I text you, Mike Ken,

665
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 4: are you alive down there?

666
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 7: First of all, everyone AJ Prizinski during the eighteen inning

667
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 7: game was being Aj Prazinski texting me like why aren't

668
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 7: you on the air?

669
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 5: Why No, that is not what I said.

670
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 3: Ken, I text you said, are you awake?

671
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 5: Is what you said? Are you awake?

672
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 7: I knew where you were going with it, and I'm

673
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 7: gonna hang up right now, Aj, I knew where you

674
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 7: would going with that, and you were being aj Prazinski

675
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 7: and I wasn't gonna play your little game.

676
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 5: Bye bye.

677
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 3: Can San have a great show tonight, buddy.

678
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 5: See guys, Thanks good stuff.

679
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: Ken Rosenthal on Fair Territory on Friday for the Fair

680
00:29:54,760 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 2: Territory super Fans playoff scheduling is different Friday before Game six.

681
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: You'll have Kenny Ball Game on there with Alana taking

682
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 2: your questions. Trey Savage has a superpower. It's called just

683
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: starting his postseason. So Sarah Lang said, this is going

684
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 2: to be his fifth postseason start. No other pitcher has

685
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: even made three postseason starts without his first within his

686
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 2: first eight overall appearances regular season in postseason. He's going

687
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: to be the first pitcher in MLB history to start

688
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: multiple World Series games within his first eight career appearances.

689
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 4: Awesome, and I think there was also he's this is

690
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 4: his fifth postseason start and that's more starts than he

691
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 4: made in Double A and a ball in Double.

692
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 3: A or something Triple A.

693
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 4: Something that's like some crazy style like I think he

694
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 4: pitched four times in Double A and this is.

695
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 2: His fifth postseason appearance and he's got it right. He's

696
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 2: got the stuff, he's got the moxie.

697
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 3: He understands how lucky he is too.

698
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 2: Like, let's just well, he doesn't sound like he's whatever

699
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: age he is, twenty two.

700
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: He sounds like he's like thirty two.

701
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: Like he sounds like he's got These are the guys you, Yeah,

702
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: I listened to the guy that scout, the scout that

703
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: signed him, like they they a lot of scouts think

704
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 2: they've got it.

705
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 8: Like they hurt though in college. I remember that's why

706
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 8: he dropped. Yeah, he was hurt in college, especially as

707
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 8: junior year. He was hurt because Velo was a little

708
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 8: down when he was a guy. M hm, Pennsylvania guys

709
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 8: have just built different. And he had six Triple I

710
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 8: starts and now he has eight and he has he

711
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 8: has five postseason.

712
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: Starts every day.

713
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: Louis has appeared in thirteen games this postseason Louis Island.

714
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 2: Only two pitchers have appeared in more postseason games twenty seventeen,

715
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: Brandon Morrow nineteen ninety seven, Paul.

716
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 3: Paul Austin Macker is I just don't know how to

717
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 3: pronounce lefty. Would you think it was acid maker? Austin Maker?

718
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 3: He was a lefty that threw like down here. He

719
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 3: was a reliever. He pitched forever. I think I faced

720
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 3: Paul Austin Marcher.

721
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: He pitched into the two thousands.

722
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 3: Dude pitched forever. He pitched. He was he was on

723
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 3: Indians teams. Uh. He was Gosh, he was like a lefty.

724
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 3: He was like he was like.

725
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 4: Jesse Rosco, like the lefty that every team had that

726
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 4: was like a side arm left He just came.

727
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: In fourteen seasons. Now he stopped to night.

728
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 3: Pitched in ninety nine. I think I faced him in

729
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 3: maybe ninety eight.

730
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,719
Speaker 1: Right as you entered the league. You got the famous

731
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: Austen Macher.

732
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it was like, oh, Paul Austin Marcher, I

733
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 4: get to face him. This is awesome because when I

734
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 4: I mean, he started in what year eighty six with

735
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 4: the Braves, and I was a Braves fan as a kid.

736
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 3: So of course I knew Paul Austin Macher.

737
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: A little bit.

738
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 6: He got better that year too. He got better in

739
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 6: the World Series that year because Brandon Morrow did not

740
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 6: Brandon Morrow was used, abused and got waffled. But Austin Maker, Shoot,

741
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 6: he pitched all those games and then he went to

742
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 6: the World Series. He had four innings, zero earned runs,

743
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 6: gave up five hits.

744
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 2: And you can listen to Can Tom Berducci, Kevin Burkhart,

745
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: yesterday's guest, Joe Davis, Today's guest, John Smoltz.

746
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: I think I got everything last week.

747
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 3: He was like on last week, or so wasn't he Smoltzy.

748
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: Smolts was last week? Yep.

749
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 3: Leading up to the World A Rod, Jeter and Poppy.

750
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: That's right.

751
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 3: I would talk to them.

752
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: What's his last name? The producer Macheska?

753
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 4: What a by the way, I know y'all don't care,

754
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 4: but I care. They did that piece in the pregame

755
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 4: on if you watch the pre game. But he's retiring

756
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 4: at the end of the World Series. This is twenty

757
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 4: second World Series from baseball.

758
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 3: He was from baseball. He's still doing football.

759
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 4: This is his twenty second World Series he's done. And

760
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 4: my first World Series that I did was twenty eleven.

761
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 4: So he's been with me for almost fifteen years now,

762
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 4: like when I was doing a pre and post and

763
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 4: I've known p and he does games with me in

764
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 4: the regular season. What a great guy and it was

765
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 4: all to see him do that piece on Pete yesterday

766
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 4: and I watched it and I text P and I go,

767
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 4: I almost cried Pete, and he text me back like,

768
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 4: of course that's a perfect response from you or something

769
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 4: almost Yeah, almost cried. So I mean he's he's awesome guy.

770
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 4: And I wish Pete the best. We're gonna miss him

771
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 4: baseball and enjoy semi retirement.

772
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: Pete.

773
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 2: Oh, they're really giving it to him on the way out.

774
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 2: He's gonna have at least six, if not seven games.

775
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 3: Oh no, I texted me. I said, the best part

776
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 3: is you get to go back to Toronto. And he's like, oh, Age,

777
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 3: you're so funny. You're so funny. He's got that straight

778
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 3: Jersey accent.

779
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: Your Jersey accent is interesting.

780
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 3: I don't have that.

781
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 2: Almost as good as crats as Canadian accent. Fox won

782
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Speaker 2: try it seven days for free. You know we're talking

783
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784
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785
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786
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: in the weeds looking fre I love it. Let's talk

787
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: Vladdie Junior versus Vlattie Senior, his Hall of Fame father

788
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 2: Jason Stark writing a column about the differences between the

789
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 2: two in the postseason, and the little guy's got a beat

790
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 2: right now.

791
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 4: So I played against his dad in the postseason, okay,

792
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 4: in two thousand and five.

793
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 2: And here's the breakdown, right, Vlad Senior one hundred and

794
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 2: eighty eight played appearances in the postseason, nine extra base hits.

795
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 2: Vlad Junior has ten extra base hits in this postseason alone.

796
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 2: He's beaten daddy O fifteen games into October. Vladdie junior

797
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 2: slash line is four to nineteen, batting five hundred on

798
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 2: base eight oh six, slugging a thirteen to oh six ops.

799
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 4: He's having an all time postseason, all time. He's having

800
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 4: an all time postseason. So yeah, that nobody can are they?

801
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 4: Anybody could keep up with that. He's having an all

802
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 4: time postseason. So his dad is in the Hall of

803
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 4: Fame and Vlad Junior is on the track to be

804
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 4: in the Hall of fame. But yeah, he's having an

805
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 4: all time postseason and he's already too a place where

806
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 4: his dad never got.

807
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 2: I mean, he said, nobody has put a slash line

808
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: together like that, And he said, even if we lower

809
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 2: the minimum to twelve games played, there's only two other

810
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 2: names on the four hundred, five hundred eight hundred Slash

811
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 2: Line Club two thousand and four, Carlos Beltron with the

812
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 2: Astros in nineteen ninety three, Paul Malider.

813
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 3: With the Mali My god, Mallie.

814
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: That's it.

815
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 2: So okay, I'm going to use this example just because

816
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 2: it's a recent one and it will probably piss some

817
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: people off.

818
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: Crats.

819
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 2: But when Yankee fans say, get disappointed about a judge performance,

820
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 2: and I know it was better this year, right, but

821
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: it was a small sample size, obviously, they're looking at

822
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 2: Vlad Junior being like, can he do that in the postseason.

823
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 2: I mean, nobody has really done that as we're talking about,

824
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 2: but this is a superstar bat who is elevating in

825
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: the postseason.

826
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

827
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 6: I mean, I think his his hit tool, I think

828
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 6: goes underrated. I think his ability to hit because if

829
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 6: he hits close to three hundred, then they're like, well,

830
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,959
Speaker 6: where's the power. Then he hits for power, They're like, well,

831
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 6: is he sacrificing average? I think his You forget how young,

832
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 6: how young he still is. You forget how fast his

833
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 6: bat speed is. You forget how good his zone discipline is.

834
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 6: I think he's been a one to one guy his

835
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 6: entire career, I had this one walk to every one

836
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 6: strikeout Like that stuff's unheard of, and now you're seeing

837
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 6: it on this on the biggest stage. My favorite part

838
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 6: before the World Series was he had more home runs

839
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,720
Speaker 6: than he had swings and misses. Can that be taught

840
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 6: probably to not that, not to that level, but he's

841
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 6: already an elite player that's taking his game to another

842
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 6: level in the postseason. That's like, it's unheard of and

843
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 6: that's why he's having a record setting postseason.

844
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 2: Do you know that hit tool grade that Baseball America

845
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 2: gave him back in the day as a prospect eighty

846
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 2: eighty And they never give out eighties. We can ask

847
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 2: on our show on Monday Day JJ, but they never

848
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 2: give out eighties, like.

849
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: Because he did.

850
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 3: Because they never give him out.

851
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 2: I mean, nobody gets eighties. I know there's sixties, some seventies,

852
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 2: even seventies are tough. Eighties is like, whoa, this is

853
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 2: something different and he's proving to be something different.

854
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 6: You don't they don't give out eighties. Like It's like

855
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 6: when you hear a guy that's like a sixty five,

856
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 6: you'd be like, whoa seventy. He's going to be a

857
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 6: perennial All Star type of player. And to get an

858
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 6: eighty that early in like, it was pretty I heard

859
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 6: a lot about him because my roommate manager of the

860
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 6: Blue Jays, had him coming up through through the minor

861
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 6: leagues and he's like, there's some special dudes.

862
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 3: He said, this guy is extra special. He's right, and

863
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 3: Bashett's not far behind him when he's healthy.

864
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 2: Tool wise, Yeah, yeah, it's up there. But you're seeing it.

865
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: I mean, this is.

866
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 4: So for all the grief that we've given Blue Jays,

867
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 4: well not all of us, but you guys.

868
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 3: For what you know, not being not living up to

869
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,919
Speaker 3: the expectations, that actually is true.

870
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: Up until this year, they did not live up to

871
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: expect that. I didn't say that a lot of people

872
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: had World Series picks in prior years.

873
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 1: They just picked the wrong year.

874
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 4: So but they're living up to it now. They are,

875
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 4: and they got a chance to win the World Series.

876
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 4: So all those people that said when Baschette and Flat

877
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 4: get here, Junior, we're going to have a chance to

878
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 4: make a run, well, boom here they are. Sad part

879
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 4: is might be gone next year, but at least they

880
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 4: have flat for thirteen more years, fourteen more years.

881
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 3: If he's doing it.

882
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, if they want bow, they can keep up. Yes,

883
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 2: I agree, especially given the year that they're having right now.

884
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 3: I agree.

885
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 4: The Giants did that, though, and you kind of let

886
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 4: them down the wrong path. They kept some guys after

887
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 4: winning World Series. They might not have should have because

888
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 4: of the World Series. But listen, Bo's young, and Bo

889
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 4: can hit and bose shortstop and all those things, so

890
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be mad at all they kept Bo. I

891
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 4: was a Blue Jays fan.

892
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 2: I love it, and and to me, yeah, if you

893
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 2: want to keep your core and the young guys, vladim

894
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 2: Bo is the answer. They already handled Flad. One other

895
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 2: quick note about the Jason Stark article. He said, the

896
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 2: World Series matchup between Otani and Blad most expensive matchup

897
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 2: in the World Series.

898
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 3: One point two billion.

899
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but really technically less with the deferred money net

900
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: prison value. But still it's about a billion dollar matchup between.

901
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 6: I saw Otani and I saw a stat Vlad has

902
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 6: two homers off of Cheatani, Shelletani has zero off of Lad.

903
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 3: So point Lad true two points.

904
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 4: Actually actually yesterday was two points a game in the lead,

905
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 4: so maybe three points. I don't know what the other

906
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 4: homer was, if it was a solo or not.

907
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 3: Yep, they're saying.

908
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: Lad is probably the last position player on their list

909
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 2: that would be pitching in a game, maybe after Bow

910
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 2: and Springer because they're banged up.

911
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 1: But then flads all the way down there.

912
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 3: Maybe Kirk. I think Kirk might be.

913
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: Kirk's pretty far down there as well. He's got to

914
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: catch here.

915
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 3: He is.

916
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 2: Joe Davis calling the World Series on Fox. Joe, great

917
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 2: to have you on, man, Appreciate the time and no

918
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 2: busy times. And how has your sleep been going the

919
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: last few days?

920
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:43,959
Speaker 1: My friend?

921
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 9: Better last night, I guess than two nights ago. I

922
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 9: had no choice but to get a quick one a

923
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 9: couple of nights ago. So caught up a little last night.

924
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 3: Okay, you know KB yesterday, now Joe today?

925
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 4: You know these these these these lead play by play

926
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 4: guys for Fox or just such divas.

927
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 3: Man, It's like, I mean, it's crazy.

928
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 4: You know, one guy does the Super Bowl, one guy

929
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 4: does the World Series, and oh I couldn't get my

930
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 4: beauty sleep. I'm gonna have to have extra makeup today.

931
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, those bags, look at those things.

932
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: Ask them, ask them about the meals.

933
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, by the way, we've done a

934
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 4: lot of games together. Five o'clock, you stop eating. I've

935
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 4: seen you eat it like six ish o' clock in

936
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 4: New York and some other places.

937
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 3: So like is it only five? Is it five Pacific?

938
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 3: Or is it only five?

939
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 9: Is it's five in a controlled environment. But if I'm

940
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,959
Speaker 9: dining with if I have the chance to dine with you,

941
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,959
Speaker 9: I'll push that back to like six o five for sure.

942
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 4: But here's the thing, Like I'll bring in all the

943
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 4: junk food, Like I bring in pizzas and whatever they have.

944
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 4: You guys have all seen, like I bring in anything

945
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 4: that they can get. Like usually Jen or or who

946
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 4: that's doing Eric, whoever's doing the ops, will send me

947
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,240
Speaker 4: like bringing everything. Joe never touches it, like the turkey

948
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 4: the other day, Like Joe, you took a bite out

949
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 4: of the I think you actually did take a bite

950
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 4: out of the turkey.

951
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 1: But like not only chocolate cake.

952
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 4: A little different, but every time you bring in like

953
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 4: you have your own salad, you have your little jar, peanuts,

954
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 4: you have this and that, Like look you're drinking out

955
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 4: of your fancy water bottle. Meanwhile, I got my plastic

956
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 4: water bottle here. You know, it's just we're just built.

957
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: Different definitely alkaline.

958
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 3: Oh oh yeah, yeah, of course, of course.

959
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 4: But like it's it's just amazing when you you know,

960
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 4: you start you see you start seeing people for you know,

961
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,919
Speaker 4: different things, especially in eighteen innings, and they start talking

962
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 4: about things that aren't the game, which we're gonna get to.

963
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 4: But like you you know, you start hearing about five

964
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,839
Speaker 4: o'clock dinners and I don't know, Joe, I just think

965
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 4: you've changed now because you've.

966
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 3: Done too many world series.

967
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm sorry to Yeah, I'm sorry to let you

968
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 9: down a j go.

969
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: A good feeling, Joe.

970
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 2: I have one more broadcast question then we'll get into

971
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: the series. I called games in my heyday, and I'm wondering,

972
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: do you ever get concerned when there's so much action

973
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: going on in a game that you're going to miss

974
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 2: getting to a call?

975
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 5: Right?

976
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 2: I used to call games for our YouTube Game of

977
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 2: the Week, and we had so much action going on,

978
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 2: and we did a great job of making sure we

979
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: got back to the call. But sometimes like something happens, right,

980
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 2: you brought the umpire on the other day and you're

981
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: trying to get that explanation, which is great, but then

982
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 2: nowadays with the pitchclock, you're getting right back to the

983
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 2: pitch clock. There's just like a even with the turkey,

984
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 2: right Like I've been there, dude, You're doing something in

985
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 2: the booth and it's fun and it's good, but you're

986
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 2: also like, I need to be paying attention because this

987
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 2: could be someone's biggest home run I've ever.

988
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, it was funny when we had Mark Carlson on

989
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 9: the other day to go over the play at the plate.

990
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 9: Will Smith was up. This was I don't know, like

991
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,879
Speaker 9: thirteenth inning at that point or something, and I've watched

992
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 9: Will Smith at five walk off home runs in the

993
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 9: last five years and Mark's still going. I was like,

994
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 9: oh my god, oh my god, oh my god, this

995
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 9: World Series game is about to end. While Mark's talking

996
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:03,919
Speaker 9: God bless him, like no fault of his own. It's

997
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 9: just to your point, Scott, there is a lot of

998
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 9: extra stuff in these games, and I just I trust

999
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 9: Pete macchescar producer in our truck that we're going to

1000
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 9: make sure we're out of the way ninety nine percent

1001
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 9: of the time. It's just that was a unique one

1002
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 9: right there.

1003
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 3: For sure.

1004
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 9: It was like, we cannot miss this and this guy

1005
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 9: could do it on this next pitch.

1006
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 3: Joe, first of all, a great job beyond the thing

1007
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 3: that you guys did for Pete. Yesterday.

1008
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 4: I text Pete and said it almost made me cry.

1009
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 4: Of which part Pete was like, that was the perfect response,

1010
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 4: but it was. It was a great job what you

1011
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 4: guys did for Pete. But I always wondered this, and

1012
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 4: I've never asked to play by play guy this. How

1013
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 4: much do you pre plan your calls or how much

1014
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 4: do you just do they just come to you right

1015
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 4: like the Freddie meet Gibby thing last year and then

1016
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 4: to walk off again for Freddy. How much is this

1017
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 4: already in your head if this happens, or is it

1018
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 4: just straight off the cuff.

1019
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 9: I think it's somewhere in between. I never want to

1020
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,800
Speaker 9: be scripted because I think it's going to sound scripted.

1021
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 9: But I'm always trying to lean forward and anticipate something

1022
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 9: big happening, so so then when it does happen, it's

1023
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 9: not just okay, home run?

1024
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 1: What does this mean?

1025
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 9: Like I can't figure that out in the moment. I'm

1026
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 9: not smart enough to figure out right there in the moment.

1027
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,760
Speaker 9: The appropriate context for the call, and I think that's

1028
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 9: what it requires this time. Here is a caption that

1029
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 9: can really make it stand the test of time and

1030
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 9: that people can go back and watch that clip fifty

1031
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 9: years from now and know that it was more than

1032
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 9: just home run, like what did the moment mean? And

1033
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 9: for me to do that, I'm always thinking about, you know,

1034
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 9: the context around the game, around the inning, around the

1035
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 9: at bat, and then hopefully the right thing out of

1036
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 9: that thinking comes out as opposed to scripting it.

1037
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 1: Okay, so now let's get to biz here.

1038
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 2: I mean, you watch plenty of Dodgers baseball during the

1039
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 2: regular season. Two what are you seeing right now from

1040
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: some of their bats that are slumping? It obviously gets

1041
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 2: magnified in a series like this. And do you think

1042
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 2: that they will make a change?

1043
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: And why.

1044
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 9: I do think that they. I would anticipate bait them

1045
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 9: changing the nine spot. Not that Andy Pajes is the

1046
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 9: only problem, but Dave Roberts is hinted at that, and

1047
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 9: then another night where the offense goes quiet, so I

1048
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 9: could see a change coming. I'd say this though, Scott,

1049
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 9: I know when you look at the full numbers, they

1050
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 9: were a great offense. They were the number two run

1051
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 9: scoring team in baseball, behind the Yankees, but for two

1052
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 9: or three months they were bad, So it's not like

1053
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 9: they were just this machine for a full season. There

1054
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 9: were long stretches there, and granted that part of it

1055
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 9: had to do with injuries, but for a lot of

1056
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 9: this summer the offense was disappointing. This isn't that shocking

1057
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 9: to see them go through a stretch like this, however

1058
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 9: badly timed that It clearly is talking about the lineup.

1059
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 6: Would there ever be a chance that they would move

1060
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 6: Mooki in front of show Hey, somebody that can handle

1061
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 6: pitches middle because clearly teams are coming after Pajes and

1062
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 6: it's not working. Show Hay is like the ultimate like

1063
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 6: protection in the lineup. Couldn't you use show Hey to

1064
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 6: get somebody else hot like Muki, who is essentially why

1065
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 6: they've been intentionally walking show Hey the whole time.

1066
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, I love the idea, and for a couple of reasons. Right,

1067
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 9: you got Mooki struggling, You have Otani who's getting pitched

1068
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 9: around because there's nobody on base when he comes on,

1069
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 9: so they have the freedom to handle him however they

1070
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 9: want to. Maybe it gets both those guys with the

1071
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 9: arrow pointed out, you get Bets a different look there,

1072
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 9: and you get Otani maybe with somebody on base. The

1073
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 9: other side of that is, I know Dave Roberts rarely

1074
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 9: is reactionary, and I know the desperate times call for

1075
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 9: desperate measures. You're looking your two losses away from your

1076
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 9: season ending, But I would be surprised to see that change,

1077
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 9: even though I totally see what you're saying and I

1078
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 9: think it makes sense.

1079
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 4: Joe, how surprised are you by what the Blue Jays

1080
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 4: could have done in this series? I know you've been

1081
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,480
Speaker 4: following him for a couple of weeks now, and yes,

1082
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 4: they're really but if going into this, if you ask

1083
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 4: most people, everyone's like, oh, the blue Jays have no

1084
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 4: chance against the Dodgers, and yet here are they are

1085
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 4: right there? And we asked Ken earlier, We had Ken

1086
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 4: on earlier and he kind of gave us his answer.

1087
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 4: But how surprised are you, as someone clearly that knows

1088
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 4: more about the Dodgers than the Blue Jays, that the

1089
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 4: Blue Jays are putting up this kind of fight. Not

1090
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 4: only a fight, they're one hit away from being up

1091
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 4: three to one in this series.

1092
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm not that surprised, And like you said, we've

1093
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 9: been with them throughout this month of October. We had

1094
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 9: we've had every playoff game for the Blue Jays, so

1095
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 9: we've talked about this a little bit on the broadcast.

1096
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 9: But there was this perception, I think that this is

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Speaker 9: David against Goliath, and that's just not true. Blue Jays

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Speaker 9: won ninety four games, they were the top team in

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Speaker 9: the American League. Dodgers have those three MVPs at the top,

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Speaker 9: and they have this massive payroll, but the Blue Jays

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Speaker 9: like they're the little engine that could with a bunch

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Speaker 9: Guerrero Junior. They also, if he's healthy, have George Springer.

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Speaker 9: So this is to me that big of a surprise

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Speaker 9: that this has been a tough series. I think the

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Speaker 4: Okay, so what happens in Game five, The Dodgers need

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Speaker 4: Blake Snell to give them six seven innings. You Savage,

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Speaker 4: give them five good innings and there's a better chance

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Speaker 4: for them. But I mean, the Dodgers we talked about

1136
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 4: their lineup are so much relying right now when they're

1137
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 4: starting pitching. Especially in an ideal world, Roberts goes Snell

1138
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 4: seven Sasaki too, and they win the game and move on.

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Speaker 4: Maybe a couple homers from show Hey and Freddy, right,

1140
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Speaker 4: But how much pressure does that put on this Dodger

1141
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 4: team knowing, like gosh, Blake Snell's taking them out and

1142
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 4: going like, man, if I don't give them six or

1143
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 4: seven really good things as we're not scoring like this

1144
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 4: is such a change for Dodgers teams of past.

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00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 9: It is, But Dodger team of right now and Blue

1146
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 9: Jay's team of right now, I think you're on it.

1147
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 9: What's gotten the Dodgers here starting pitching? What stops the

1148
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:05,919
Speaker 9: Dodgers their bullpen? You say six or seven from Snell? Heck,

1149
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 9: I'd be hoping for nine from Snell. I mean, avoid

1150
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 9: that bullpen altogether if you can. Roki Sasaki has been

1151
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 9: much better than you anticipated it could have ever envisioned

1152
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 9: in the closers role. I still think you can't feel

1153
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 9: that great about a kid who just started pitching out

1154
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 9: of the bullpen a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: So for the.

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Speaker 9: Dodgers, the biggest strength has been the starting pitching. It

1157
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 9: has to be that if they're going to win this

1158
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 9: World Series. For the Blue Jays, you mentioned Treya Savage.

1159
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 9: He looked worn down. This is the longest season of

1160
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 9: his career. How much can you really put on the

1161
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 9: twenty two year old. The thing is they have the

1162
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 9: offense to paper over what may not be seven shot

1163
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 9: at innings from their starting pitcher. Dodgers are here because

1164
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 9: of their starting pitching. If they win, it'll be because

1165
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 9: of the same thing. Blue Jays are here because of

1166
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Speaker 9: their offense. If they win it it'll be because that

1167
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Speaker 9: offense continues to do enough to overcome whatever they lack

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Speaker 9: and run prevention.

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Speaker 1: Joe.

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Speaker 2: One storyline that I keep pushing is that the Dodgers

1171
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 2: could get crapty and start using these starters more frequently

1172
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Speaker 2: out of the bullpen. We're down only three games.

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Speaker 1: At this point.

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Speaker 2: Do you think they do any of that? Hey, everybody

1175
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 2: that's got their throw day, you're not throwing. You can

1176
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 2: always do it right after the game, but we need

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Speaker 2: an inning or two out of the rest of the rotation.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Yamamoto almost pitched a couple days after he

1179
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 2: appeared in that extra inning game, and I know there's

1180
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 2: a balance of health and arm care and stuff like that,

1181
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 2: but it's not like we haven't seen it before. I

1182
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 2: always mentioned, like the twenty eighteen Red Sox and Dodgers

1183
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 2: have done this before with Arrius. So I'm wondering if

1184
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 2: we're going to potentially see that the next few days. Right,

1185
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 2: A guy's a couple days from his start, he's got

1186
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 2: a throw day. Let me get an inning or two

1187
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Speaker 2: from you, because I would rather have class now Snell

1188
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 2: Yamamoto pitching for an inning or two than whoever else

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Speaker 2: is the bridge guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: Well, I think when you look at Game seven, it's

1192
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 9: always going to be all hands on deck. Whoever's got

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00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 9: anything left in the tank is going to be on

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Speaker 9: the table. You mentioned Yamamoto the other night, so he's

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Speaker 9: willing to do it, but he's not going to do

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Speaker 9: it given what you said about this is down to

1197
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Speaker 9: three games now, he's starting in two nights, so you're

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Speaker 9: not going to see him tonight. So that leaves just

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Speaker 9: Tiler glass now, and you're not going to pitch your

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Speaker 9: Game seven starter in a two to two series in

1201
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Speaker 9: game five. So, uh, we saw it a little bit

1202
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Speaker 9: early on in the playoffs. Glass now came out of

1203
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 9: the bullpen in his first outing. You may see it

1204
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Speaker 9: at the very back end we saw. Yamamoto is willing

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Speaker 9: to do it the other night game seven. I think

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Speaker 9: you'd see it again, but I just don't think it

1207
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Speaker 9: makes sense at this point. Snell starting tonight, Yamamoto starting

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Speaker 9: in game six. Those are two of the four options.

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Speaker 9: Is not going to be Otani having pitched last night,

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00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 9: and you're not going to fire Glass now?

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Speaker 1: Who you need for game seven?

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Speaker 3: Agreed? Agreed?

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Speaker 4: All right, here's here. Here's I have two questions for you. One,

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00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 4: you got a bobblehead and I didn't get one? How

1215
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 4: many did Rick get? Did Rick get like twenty five bbbleheads?

1216
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Speaker 4: Of yourself?

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Speaker 9: I have?

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Speaker 3: Actually Rick is the stats guy, Joe statsk They have.

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00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 9: Their own get over here that over there is boxes

1220
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 9: of them. So I bet we can get you one.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 4: If only I knew a guy that could send me one,

1223
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 4: we would put it on I think I can make

1224
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 4: that happen. Yes, that would be. It'd be right here

1225
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Speaker 4: on my desk. Okay, but that dude, Yes, right next

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Speaker 4: to Hawk and DJ. But here here's my question for you,

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Speaker 4: oral last night throughout the first pitch, did you see it?

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Speaker 4: And how much grief is he gonna get? Because he

1229
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,240
Speaker 4: wasn't even close? I mean it was it was almost

1230
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Speaker 4: in the grass. I know he has a pitch for

1231
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 4: a while, but I mean I'm thinking, like if we

1232
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,240
Speaker 4: sent Sandy Kofax out there at eighty nine, he probably

1233
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 4: would be able to still get it there.

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00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm worried about him. I figured he'd be fresh.

1235
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 9: We we were back to the field getting ready to

1236
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 9: do the open and I happen to peek over my

1237
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 9: shoulder right before so I could see it. And Rick,

1238
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 9: you mentioned my stats guy up there. We both watched

1239
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 9: it and just lost it, laughing like we're never gonna

1240
00:55:58,320 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 9: let him live it down.

1241
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it was so good.

1242
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 1: I have the ultimate content.

1243
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 4: Well, who would be better, because you know you and

1244
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,399
Speaker 4: Rick both played sports, would if you had to throw

1245
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 4: out the first pitch?

1246
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 3: And Rick, who I love?

1247
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 4: Rick is again the stats guy for Joe and he

1248
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 4: also does a great job for me. So who would

1249
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 4: be better at a first pitch if you both had

1250
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 4: to do it, Who's who's going to give you the

1251
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 4: better toss?

1252
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 9: For sure, Rick, because I would yip out, Dude, that'd

1253
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 9: be like, oh my, I would make Oral look like.

1254
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 2: Oral broadcasters. He can call a world series. But first pitch.

1255
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 2: I don't do first pitch. I know a lot of broadcasters.

1256
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 2: They're like, no, because all you're doing is giving Ammo.

1257
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,440
Speaker 9: Right bablehead night on my Bobblehead Night, they said, do

1258
00:56:43,440 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 9: you want to throw it out?

1259
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 5: Hell?

1260
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: No, my kids are throwing it out.

1261
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 9: I'm not going out on that limb.

1262
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 2: I could not agree more. There's nothing to lose or

1263
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 2: nothing to gain and everything to lose. Right if you

1264
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 2: throw it, well, it's.

1265
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 4: Like okay, unless unless you're Bob Costas. Bob Costas did

1266
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 4: it and he threw it and it was so bad,

1267
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 4: and he always every time he comes on he brings

1268
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 4: it up. He threw it so bad. It was for

1269
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,719
Speaker 4: commercial for Saint Louis. He did it again, and he

1270
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 4: threw a strike and nobody booed nobody. He literally threw

1271
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 4: it ten feet to my right and he goes, hey,

1272
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 4: I need you to catch my first pitch. He I

1273
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 4: dove for it to try to make it look good.

1274
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 4: Wasn't even close. He's just like, give me the ball.

1275
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 4: They rolled him a different ball boom strike, and then

1276
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 4: I was the one they used on.

1277
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 3: The Saint Louis commercial.

1278
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: There you go.

1279
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't know.

1280
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 9: I'm gonna avoid that whole thing.

1281
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: Yeah I would. I would say, like.

1282
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 4: You avoid eating after five o'clock and the chuck eplayed it.

1283
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:37,439
Speaker 1: But Joe, this was great.

1284
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 2: Thanks for hopping on with us, really appreciating it for

1285
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 2: our crowd. Obviously you'll catch Joe tonight for Game five

1286
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 2: and enjoy it.

1287
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 4: Manhappy Wait, hold up, no, before he goes, I have

1288
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 4: to ask him one more question because I'm sorry, I

1289
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 4: know one more they get mad of me. Joe, when

1290
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 4: did you guys start the Smoltz slide? Because he used

1291
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 4: you know what you know? Do you see like this

1292
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 4: on the on the open camera?

1293
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 3: Now you have.

1294
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 4: The the old Smoltz is off the camera and then

1295
00:57:59,240 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 4: you're like.

1296
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, in here John and you just boom right, you practice,

1297
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 9: we get ready like he'll he'll practice and make sure

1298
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 9: it's hips are loose.

1299
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 4: And definitely did just have hip surgery, just I think

1300
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 4: your replacement did.

1301
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 9: And he is really proud of those hips.

1302
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 3: So he's like, watch my slid slide into this show.

1303
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: Topic, all right, so we'll look for it. Joe, thanks man,

1304
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: have fun, all right, boys, take care you too, appreciate

1305
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: it all right. That's Joe Davis.

1306
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 2: Obviously you can catch him tonight on Fox and on

1307
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 2: the Fox one at Thanks to Fox one for hooking

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Speaker 2: us up with great guests.

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Speaker 1: That's the show. That's it. You can roll the music

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