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Speaker 1: Here we go. It's hour two. It is a Thursday.

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Speaker 1: It greats me back with you and we were talking

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Speaker 1: about your clast hour Jmat sports are cyclical. The best

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Speaker 1: college football team I've ever seen in my life was

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Speaker 1: Nebraska when they that the year they dismantled Florida. I

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Speaker 1: was actually there, the Steve Spurry or Florida team, Fiesta Bole,

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Speaker 1: Lawrence Phillips, Tommy Fraser, their second team. We would have

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Speaker 1: been a high end bowl team tom Osbourne and they've never, ever, ever,

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Speaker 1: for a lot of reasons, been able to reclaim that glory. Now,

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Speaker 1: I they're not. Matt Rule's done a nice job. They're not.

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Speaker 1: They're not the same. The sport outgrowing. It happens all

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Speaker 1: the time. When I grew up in the seventies, the

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Reds and the Pittsburgh Pirates and the Kansas City

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Speaker 1: Royals had the best rosters in baseball, the Pirates, where

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Speaker 1: I can go through the entire roster of the Reds.

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Speaker 1: Oh and I can go the Yankees, by the way.

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Speaker 1: We're the Yankees, by the way. We're terrible in the eighties.

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Speaker 1: But things changed with cable TV money, and now the

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Speaker 1: Royals and the Reds and the Pirates they don't have

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Speaker 1: any money. And I just saw this. According to a

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Speaker 1: recent poll featuring this is by on three, it's a

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Speaker 1: very very good company, very shrewd. If you follow college football,

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Speaker 1: they're excellent. According to a recent poll featuring nil collectives,

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Speaker 1: GMS agents and administrators, here's who spending money in college football.

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Speaker 1: And that's what you got to do to win. Texas

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Speaker 1: number one. Texas Tech has a billionaire donor. He went

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Speaker 1: big this year. Ohio State three, Oregon four A and

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Speaker 1: schools in the top ten. Nobama. So Nick Saban saw

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Speaker 1: this thing coming. Saban's like exit stage right. Two years

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Speaker 1: before he left, he was grumbling about what was happening

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Speaker 1: to college football, and I had a very good source

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Speaker 1: close to Saban saying he was like, we can't compete

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Speaker 1: with Texas. They got two billionaire donors. And remember it

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Speaker 1: was like two years before Saban left they played Texas.

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Speaker 1: Remember that game. I think it was in Tuscaloosa, and

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Speaker 1: you watched that game and you went, oh, snap, Texas

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Speaker 1: is way bigger upfront and faster. Texas had better players.

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Speaker 1: Saban was still the better coach, but Saban saw it,

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Speaker 1: he knew the problems, and so I don't buy that

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Speaker 1: Saban's coming back to Alabama. I don't think he's coming

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Speaker 1: back to college football. I do believe the NFL hires

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Speaker 1: seven new coaches a year, and I think he brings

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Speaker 1: instant credibility to anywhere he goes. Remember in Miami with

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Speaker 1: the Dolphins, if the team doctor allows Drew Brees to play,

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Speaker 1: he never takes that Bama job because he was getting

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Speaker 1: things going there in Miami. And with that Urban Meyer,

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Speaker 1: three time national champions now joining us live as we're

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Speaker 1: getting fired up for the college football season. So it's interesting.

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Speaker 1: But just about Nick. Nick is one of those guys

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Speaker 1: He's an innovator, and I do think Nick and Belichick

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Speaker 1: are tight. I do think, like Jim Harbaugh, there's that little,

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Speaker 1: that little scratch. Nick's never failed at anything right, He's

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Speaker 1: I do think Nick would take a call about an

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Speaker 3: You know I have not talked to him about this.

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Speaker 3: like you said, he's getting things going on Miami. I

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Speaker 3: don't think he'd go back to college. I don't see

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, let's talk Jim Harbor. Jim Harbaugh was

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Speaker 1: But I would argue in the NFL, they're all bad

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Speaker 3: having a great career. But that's so intriguing when you

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Speaker 3: I think he's going to take that call. I really do,

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Speaker 3: And I've not talked to him about that. He's got

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Speaker 1: So we've been talking about JJ McCarthy. Full disclosure, I

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Speaker 1: I watched him beat Justin Herbert as a freshman when

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Speaker 1: I was hit and miss on JJ McCarthy, and my

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Speaker 1: criticism was like an Alabama quarterback never trails, not asked

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Speaker 1: not a huge believer in JJ McCarthy because he hasn't

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Speaker 1: on JJ? I know you may have to be diplomatic,

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Speaker 3: No, I don't have to be diplomatic. I'd like JJ.

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Speaker 3: I covered him in quite a bit on Fox Big Noon.

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Speaker 3: how to distribute the ball. But he like you said

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Speaker 3: that last year, that Wolverine football team that he was

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Speaker 3: he struggled with that. So I think if they surround

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Speaker 3: that's like all quarterbacks. But there's a lot of question

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Speaker 3: Has he really had to bring the team from behind,

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Speaker 3: He has a skill set. The thing that I like

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Speaker 3: best about JJ McCarty he's a competitor and he's a

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Speaker 3: selfless player. There was times they won games where he

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I think the guy that two years ago

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Speaker 1: I watched him two years ago and I thought he

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Speaker 1: Penn State's gonna play for the national championship with Texas.

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Speaker 3: I think night and day, very concerned about you. Ally

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Speaker 3: But the question I have for Penn State. They have

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Speaker 1: You know, I was you know when And this happens

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Speaker 1: don't want to pay my players. That's not what college

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Speaker 1: football is about. Here's where the NIL helps coaches. Because

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Speaker 1: you spend so much time raising money to pay the players,

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Speaker 1: you can't buy out coaches anymore. Alabama can't paid Kaylin

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Speaker 1: they don't have the money. And so I do think coaches.

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Speaker 1: not going anywhere. There's no way. They just spent three

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Speaker 1: an eighty million dollar buyout. So I think NIL actually

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Speaker 1: two more than you used to. What say you?

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Speaker 3: Every time I come on your show, you come up

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Speaker 3: And this is one of those moments I think you're right,

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Speaker 3: You're absolutely I never thought of it that way. But

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Speaker 3: how about the Wolverine is one of the best brands,

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Speaker 3: and biggest brands are expected at twenty seven dollars twenty

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Speaker 3: seven million dollars shortfall, teams are going to start I'm

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Speaker 3: worried about this start dropping sports. Where is this money

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Speaker 3: coming from? And what you just said to go pay

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Speaker 3: off a coaching staff as the head coach has a buyout,

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Speaker 3: but then you also have to pay off all those

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer, three time national champion coach, is always you're

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Speaker 1: Hope you guys caught that Urban Meyer who knows Nick

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take middle aged old guys over young guys.

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Speaker 4: Four and in Congress? Why don't we have coaching age limits.

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Speaker 6: Let's get some new blood in there, some creative young

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Speaker 6: Colin Rashi Rice. Remember he was lost last season with

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Speaker 6: the knee injury back in the Week four. Pretty gruesome.

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Speaker 6: I believe it was against the Chargers here at so far. Well,

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Speaker 6: the report just came out that Rice, due to some

433
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Speaker 6: off field issues, has been sentenced to five years probation

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Speaker 6: that's significant and thirty days of jail time stemming from

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Speaker 6: his role in the multi car crash last offseason. The

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Speaker 6: report adds that with the sentencing, the NFL can now

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Speaker 6: expedite the disciplinary process, and Rice is likely, according to reports,

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Speaker 6: to receive a multiple game suspension this season. Obviously, the

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Speaker 6: Chiefs wide receiver group was garbage last year.

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Speaker 4: They need a healthy Hollywood Brown, they need a active

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Speaker 4: Rashi Rice.

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Speaker 6: And obviously Travis Kelcey to return the form, but Xavier

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Speaker 6: Worthy can't carry them with Rice out. They really need

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Speaker 6: this guy back on the field.

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Speaker 1: Con Yeah, he's more of a gadget guy. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it feels like a six game suspension to me. I mean,

447
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Speaker 1: you're running from a hit and run accident and that's done.

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Speaker 1: Nothing lower than that. I mean, there probably is something,

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Speaker 1: but that brutal. He really developed from his rookie year

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Speaker 1: to a second year. You were like, Wow, he's a

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Speaker 1: volume receiver. He's really good. He's really really talented. But

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Speaker 1: you know what, man, there is Kansas City's moved off

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Speaker 1: a lot of receivers and they keep winning. They'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: But that feels like a six game suspension minimum. Okay

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Speaker 1: to me? All right.

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Speaker 4: Let's move on to Jamar Chase Colin. Oh boy.

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Speaker 6: He had the Bengals first ever season where they won

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Speaker 6: the Triple Crown, leading the NFL in receptions, receiving yards,

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Speaker 6: and touchdowns. Now he's got his site set on another

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Speaker 6: record two thousand yards. Chase believes that we'll see one

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Speaker 6: very soon, saying in the next three years, somebody has

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Speaker 6: to do it, if not me, What do you think

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Speaker 6: of two thousand yards?

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Speaker 4: Is that reasonable?

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's what you want. I don't want

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Speaker 1: one receiver getting two thousand yards. First of all, if

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Speaker 1: you get to eighteen hundred, you're gonna be overcompensating as

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Speaker 1: a team trying to get him the ball. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: by the way, you look at a lot of these

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Speaker 1: guys that did it. Are there a lot of Super Bowls?

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Speaker 1: I guess Cooper caught?

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Speaker 3: You're what one?

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Speaker 6: Julio Jones went to one. Let's take Terry Rice out

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Speaker 6: of the equation. Antonio Brown is a goofball. I get

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Speaker 6: the angle for two thousand yards for chases. Their defense

476
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Speaker 6: is so bad they just hemorrhage points all games. So

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Speaker 6: they're chasing, and Burrow's got to be throwing, so Chase

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Speaker 6: is gonna be putting out massive numbers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean that's a really good point in today's

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Speaker 1: football if you have a receiver with two thousand yards,

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Speaker 1: because so many teams place zones, so many teams don't

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Speaker 1: allow you to throw stuff over the top. So to

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Speaker 1: get two thousand yards, you have to have one hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty catches, and they have T Higgins. So what

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Speaker 1: that tells you is they're trailing, they're in shootouts. I

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Speaker 1: don't want, you know, if I have two thousand yard receivers,

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Speaker 1: I would take that every day over a two thousand

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Speaker 1: yard receiver. I want a balanced offense. I mean again,

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Speaker 1: two thousand yards means you are getting into track meets.

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Speaker 1: Those teams don't win Super Bowls.

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Speaker 6: I mean the Bengals, I think scored like over thirty

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Speaker 6: points like six times and lost a bunch of those games.

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Speaker 6: Like that defense is just bad. By the way, we

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Speaker 6: should find out what's up with Hendrickson and their first

495
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Speaker 6: round pick. Cincinnati is just a mess. Let's go to

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Speaker 6: the NBA Colin final story. The Lakers are in the

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Speaker 6: news again, and it's not necessarily Lebron, but there are

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Speaker 6: reports today that say the one of the reasons the

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Speaker 6: Lakers haven't really done much this offseason is they are

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Speaker 6: saving their cap space to make a run at Nikola

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Speaker 6: Jokic or Jannis in the next.

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Speaker 4: Couple of seasons.

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Speaker 6: Obviously, Jokic and Luca are very close friends, and people

504
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Speaker 6: seem to think, hey, well, wait a second. Jokic did

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Speaker 6: not sign the extension this summer. He said, let's see

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Speaker 6: what Let's wait till next summer. Now, obviously he can

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Speaker 6: make more next summer, but it.

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Speaker 4: Might be two things.

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Speaker 6: It might be like, I can make more, sure, but

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Speaker 6: I don't want to see if for good they won

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Speaker 6: the title and then lost in the second round back

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Speaker 6: to back years.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so this will be I'm gonna push back. Luca

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Speaker 1: fits better with Yannis because Yannis is a great grim defender,

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Speaker 1: which isn't Jokic needs the ball, Yannis doesn't. So Jokic

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Speaker 1: is gonna take the ball out of Luca's hands and

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Speaker 1: doesn't protect him on the back end as a defender.

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Speaker 1: It sounds great. Yannis and Luca wins titles. They compliment

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00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: each other perfectly. One defends greatly, one doesn't. One needs

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Speaker 1: the ball, one doesn't. Yannis doesn't have an outside game.

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Speaker 1: So he's not gonna get he's not gonna take any shots.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna get Ali oops, He's gonna get shook stuff

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Speaker 1: close to He's gonna get stuff close to the basket.

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Speaker 1: Jokicch and Luca sounds better than it would be two now.

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Speaker 1: I think Jokic, because of size, is a better defender

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Speaker 1: than Luca. I don't think he's a terrible defender. Luka is,

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Speaker 1: but I I don't think that. I think that. I

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Speaker 1: mean again, they'd be good. But I think one of

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Speaker 1: the reasons Jokic works with like Gordon, Gordon doesn't need

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Speaker 1: the ball. Gordon's a great defender. Jokicch sometimes has to

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Speaker 1: be protected a little bit defensively. Luca has to be

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Speaker 1: protected defensively. Yannis and Luca is perfect to me.

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Speaker 4: You know, listen, this is not a bad take by you.

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Speaker 6: It's better than your old man football take from a

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Speaker 6: few minutes ago.

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Speaker 2: But I do think you're right.

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Speaker 4: Jiannis would be amazing. Like, listen, you want to try

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Speaker 4: to cut off Luca.

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Speaker 6: Drives, He's just gonna throw it up in the air

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Speaker 6: and Gianni will catch and dunk everything. But I just

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Speaker 6: also think Jokic and Luca the passing on that team

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Speaker 6: that would might be the highest IQ team in basketball history.

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Speaker 1: You don't what in the world would you have to

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00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: give me to get this story? Feels like such nonsense.

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Speaker 1: I would not give up Jokic. There is no package,

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Speaker 1: none that you could offer me in the NBA. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't really give me chat Holmgren an SGA not interested.

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Speaker 4: I take k Colin. It's different.

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Speaker 6: What if Yoki says I'm not signing an extension, trade.

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Speaker 4: Me, get me out of here. Denver would be.

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Speaker 6: Handcuffed and say, well, fine, we could just play it

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Speaker 6: out and then lose him for nothing, or we could

553
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Speaker 6: just trade him now and get whatever the hell we can.

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Speaker 1: Okay, why would he do that. He's an international player.

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Speaker 1: They don't demand trades.

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Speaker 4: They have not They have not demanded trades. Who's to

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Speaker 4: say that they're not going to start doing that? Giannis

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Speaker 4: Jo kicch let's.

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Speaker 1: That's not Jokic. Yokicic wants to hide. You can hide

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Speaker 1: in Denver if you're a basketball hide in LA. No,

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Speaker 1: you can't. Not with the Lakers. Now that that story

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00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: doesn't have any legs, he I mean these international guys.

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Speaker 1: One of the reasons. Yannis is loyal to Milwaukee because

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Speaker 1: the big city's south. On the train down to Chicago.

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Speaker 1: He can hide in Milwaukee. Jokicic can hide in Denver.

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Speaker 1: Sga can hide in Oklahoma City.

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Speaker 4: Hey you know who's hiding in La Sho?

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Speaker 6: Hey o Tani. I haven't seen him around lately. He's

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Speaker 6: hiding very well out here in Los Angeles town, so

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Speaker 6: it could be done. Yokich is seven feet talls like you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I actually ran into yokitch at at

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Speaker 1: a restaurant in La He's so if he wasn't that big,

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Speaker 1: you'd never know.

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Speaker 4: He has no risk in the show or.

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Speaker 1: No, No, he didn't mention you. No he didn't. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure he knew who I was, but somebody pushed

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Speaker 1: me toward him, and his brothers knew. He didn't.

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Speaker 4: I've heard the brothers are not to be trifled with.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I don't buy that. The idea that

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Speaker 1: everybody wants to play for the Lakers, No they don't.

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Speaker 1: They don't. Thirteen percent taxes, Lebron's gonna run the ecosystem.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of politics for the Lakers. They do

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Speaker 1: have new ownership, which is is. You know, here comes

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Speaker 1: some real competency. But I don't know the.

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Speaker 6: President was helping all the rich guys. Jokis doesn't have

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Speaker 6: to worry about the taxes. That's not an issue. And

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Speaker 6: by the way, I mean a flight to from LA

588
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Speaker 6: to Serbia in the offseason, that's a that's a that's

589
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Speaker 6: like a puddle jumper. That's no big deal. I think

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Speaker 6: LA makes a ton of sense.

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Speaker 1: Jmak with a news.

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Speaker 1: So Caitlin Clark announced that she won't participate in the

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Speaker 1: WNBA All Star festivities due to injury. And this is

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Speaker 1: once again the WNBA not having everything lined up, so

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Speaker 1: they put the All Star Game in Indiana because they

604
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Speaker 1: got so heavily criticized for butchering her first year and

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Speaker 1: then they didn't have their officiating right, and she's been

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Speaker 1: getting pushed around in clobber. It's very much Michael Jordan

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Speaker 1: who got hurt in year two. Jordan breaks into the

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Speaker 1: NBA and as a phenom, doesn't look like anybody else,

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Speaker 1: and they didn't figure out the officiating for years and

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Speaker 1: years you were tackling him, so she reinjures her groin.

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Speaker 1: The officiating is the low spot of the league. It

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Speaker 1: looks like they've got their travel and their marketing upgraded.

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Speaker 1: The players recently voted her as the face of the league.

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Speaker 1: So slowly they are kind of putting their arms around it,

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Speaker 1: coming to terms with the fact that they're their top

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Speaker 1: salesman and their top face is Caitlin Clark. That didn't

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Speaker 1: like it. They're acknowledging it, but they're not all lined up.

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Speaker 1: The officiating remains suboptimal, and she's making the right decision

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Speaker 1: in my take for her. Now she's getting to a

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Speaker 1: point where she should be play for the Fever, play

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Speaker 1: in the Olympics, and then you know they've just the

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Speaker 1: WNBA has gone through several stages. They the league wasn't

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Speaker 1: ready for should have been the Olympic movement with women's

624
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: basketball was petty, tribal, and clueless. The travel was second tier,

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00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: the marketing was bad, the players were petty. But it's

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Speaker 1: all kind of coming around. Everybody's kind of getting used

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Speaker 1: to it. WNBA players now I think a little more

628
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Speaker 1: than gotten criticized so broadly and so punitively that I

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Speaker 1: think they're coming to terms with girl can play. But

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Speaker 1: the officiating is bad. It is bad. We talked about

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Speaker 1: it yesterday. I don't know the specifics, but college officials

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Speaker 1: make more than WNBA officials. That is indisputable. That can't

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Speaker 1: be the case. So she's not going to participate. It's

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Speaker 1: in Indiana. It would have been perfect, but they're just

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Speaker 1: not quite lined up yet. The other thing, I think

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Speaker 1: we made some news today Urban Meyer. I believe Nick Saban,

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Speaker 1: not that he's unhappy broadcasting, but every time I watch

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Speaker 1: that show he's on, I want more of Nick Saban.

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Speaker 1: And he's an expert. I mean, he just walked out

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Speaker 1: as the greatest coach in college football history. I'd are

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Speaker 1: you Urban Myers too, and I think Saban has that

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Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh itch and I said the nil Bama is

643
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Speaker 1: not a top ten NIL team they're collective is not

644
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Speaker 1: close to Oregon, Michigan, USC, Ohio State, Texas, Texas Tech, Michigan.

645
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Speaker 1: It's not or Miami. So they're not going to buy

646
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Speaker 1: out Kaitlin the Boer and pay eighteen million a year

647
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: to players and pay Nick one hundred million for five years.

648
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Speaker 1: They're not going to do it. They're not in the

649
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Speaker 1: top ten according to an on three poll, which is

650
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Speaker 1: a great, great company. They're not Auburn's got more money

651
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Speaker 1: than they do, Okay, so they're not going to do that.

652
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Speaker 1: He's not going to Bama. I don't think he's going

653
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Speaker 1: to college football and urban Meyer discussed that thirty minutes ago.

654
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Speaker 3: I don't think he'd go back to college.

655
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Speaker 1: I don't see that fit.

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Speaker 3: I think you're you know, the whole idea that where

657
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Speaker 3: the heck is Alabama? Why are they not in the

658
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Speaker 3: top ten and spending I don't understand that one and

659
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Speaker 3: push the boar. I'd be asking some hard questions, say

660
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Speaker 3: what's the problem here? We can't compete, but we can't

661
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Speaker 3: pay our players. So I agree with you. I would

662
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 3: say very little to no chance you would get involved

663
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Speaker 3: in college. But I I think he would take phone

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Speaker 3: calls from the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I absolutely believe that is true, and it comes down

666
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Speaker 1: to basic math. I mean, an urban knows him well.

667
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Speaker 1: Is that the NIL now makes it almost impossible to

668
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Speaker 1: roll fire a coach with four years left on his

669
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Speaker 1: contract because these guys are all making ten million, now

670
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: forty million, and then you're gonna have to pay Nick

671
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: eighty to one hundred million. Nick's not coming back for

672
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 1: a year, even if he retires early. He wants a

673
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: five year no cut deal. And I would argue, probably

674
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Speaker 1: at eighteen to fifteen million bucks a year, so you're

675
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Speaker 1: paying sixty seventy for him or whatever or eighty. You're

676
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: not going to pay off a guy at thirty forty

677
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Speaker 1: to fifty million killing the board to get him out

678
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Speaker 1: of the room. It's not gonna happen. Those days are over.

679
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: So I mean there may be an exception, I doubt

680
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Speaker 1: it very seriously. NFL's totally different. He failed, although he

681
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: had it. There were a lot of sign that it

682
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: was going to work if Drew Brees signed with the Dolphins,

683
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: but the team doctor said no, can do so. And

684
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: the other thing that works in Saban's favor is this

685
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: coming draft. It would be a perfect time to leave.

686
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: This would have been a bad year. He'll have another

687
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: great year on television. So he's the best college coach ever.

688
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: He's a super star broadcaster. And it's a great quarterback draft.

689
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: And so he used to coach in Cleveland. Now I

690
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: like Stefanski a lot, But if he could get arch

691
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: Manning and you bring in Nick Saban, I mean, Jimmy

692
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 1: Haslam likes star power. He wanted to draft Baker Mayfield

693
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 1: and Johnny Manziel and he wanted Deshaun Watson. Jimmy Haslam,

694
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: who by the way, I think he's a Tennessee booster,

695
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: a Tennessee gret. He gets the power of Saban, Saban

696
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: arch Manning in Cleveland, it'd be the most talked about

697
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: team in the league. Wouldn't be the best, maybe be

698
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 1: the most talked about team in the league. Jimmy Haslam

699
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: sec guy, big money guy Tennessee. He knows the sec.

700
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Speaker 1: Keep your eye on Cleveland with Nick Saban and I

701
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: and I think he's a huge donor to Tennessee. And

702
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: I also think keep your eye on the Dallas Cowboys.

703
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: I think that Brian Schottenheimer thing is gonna be a mess.

704
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 1: And by the way in a right now they're saying

705
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: there's minimum four, possibly six first round quarterbacks, So you

706
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: don't have to be terrible to have a shot at

707
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Speaker 1: a quarterback. If you draft eighth, you could get the

708
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Speaker 1: third best quarterback. Because remember two years ago the quarterback class.

709
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,800
Speaker 1: Cam Ward's going to work in Tennessee. And if JJ

710
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: McCarthy can play, and Caleb Williams can play, and Michael

711
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: Pennix I think can play, you just solve six teams

712
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 1: quarterback dilemmas. You're getting to a saturation point. How many

713
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Speaker 1: teams next year?

714
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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: The Rams to get Stafford a backup, I think would

716
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Speaker 1: give up two ones to keep to move up to

717
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Speaker 1: get a quarterback Cleveland will I mean, there's obvious teams

718
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: that would, Indianapolis, the Colts would, but just keep your

719
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Speaker 1: eye on it. It's urban Meyer did not push back

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Speaker 1: on it. And when I intimated, when I said, do

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Speaker 1: you think Nick has a little itch, just a little

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Speaker 1: itch about the NFL? Urban said, it's more than a

723
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: little itch. So there's a couple of people that know

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban really well, Urban Meyer and Bill Belichick. I mean,

725
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Speaker 1: if Belichick goes to college, Saban wouldn't revisit the NFL,

726
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: and again, like Pete Carroll, he may be old, he

727
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: doesn't act old. He didn't coach old. He doesn't think old. Belichick,

728
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: Trump and Saban successful motivated. They're not going to sit

729
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Speaker 1: back in retirement and go hang out on a lake.

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Speaker 1: Some guys just need to work. They need to be challenged.

731
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Speaker 1: And I don't think Saturdays on Television challenges Saban enough.

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Speaker 4: I don't let me hit you with one.

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Speaker 6: Okay, all this hot take happy hours started early, folks. Okay,

734
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Speaker 6: Mahomes and the Chiefs backslide just a little. Andy Reid says,

735
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Speaker 6: you know, I'm late sixties, I'm walking away. I got

736
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Speaker 6: enough winning gun. That's a job Nick Saban has taken

737
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Speaker 6: in a heartbeat. Now, the Chiefs will have their pick

738
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Speaker 6: of anybody.

739
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Speaker 4: But if you could.

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Speaker 6: Coach Patrick Mahomes or like I said earlier, Josh Allen,

741
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Speaker 6: I think those are the jobs Saban would go for it.

742
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Speaker 6: Do you really think a seventy three year old he's

743
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Speaker 6: gonna want to take on a Cowboys situation with an

744
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Speaker 6: older owner no quarterback, or even the Browns with a

745
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Speaker 6: young guy. I know you said there's six quarterbacks. He's

746
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Speaker 6: not going back to the NFL to coach Drew Hour.

747
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Speaker 6: I'm sorry that's not happening. I think Saban would only

748
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Speaker 6: take elite and the best of the best, which is

749
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Speaker 6: what he should do.

750
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Speaker 4: He's got a lot of better money.

751
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, Zach Taylor doesn't make the playoffs again,

752
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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 6: Sean McDermott, Now, Cincinnati's interesting because that ownership is so cheap. Right,

754
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Speaker 6: we've articulated that. Hushbinzada has been on.

755
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Speaker 4: Here talking about it. I think you'd have to be

756
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Speaker 4: careful going there, but right.

757
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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott gets bounced first round.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, buff Buffalo is it would be the perfect spot

759
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 6: Kansas City if Reid walks away, I don't think Shanahan's

760
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Speaker 6: on the hot seat.

761
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Speaker 4: But does he want to go back for brock Purty.

762
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Speaker 1: He wouldn't go West.

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Speaker 4: I had to get a rock perty with me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm not leaving. I'm not leaving Saturday sitting

765
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Speaker 1: down making ten million for brock Purty. I can say

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Speaker 1: that Power three Nat