WEBVTT - How Buildering Works 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:04.880 Attention celebrity listeners. I hope they got your attention. Hey everyone, 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:07.320 this is Chuck And as some of you have heard, 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:09.840 I have announced that I have a new solo podcast 0:00:09.880 --> 0:00:14.560 coming out in November called Movie Crush. UH. The show 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:17.920 where I interview your favorite people about their favorite movie. 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:20.360 And that's along and short of it's really cool. I've 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:23.520 had a bunch of guests in the studio uh and 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:26.639 just had a nice chat about movie fandom in general 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:29.120 and what their favorite movie is and why. And I 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:34.920 need more guests. 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Just send me an 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:16.200 email to movie Crush at how stuff Works dot com 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:20.320 and put in the subject line movie Crush guest and 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:23.560 I'll know it's you and I appreciate it. It's a 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:27.399 lot of fun, trust me and um here's two recording 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:33.800 podcast together. Thanks. Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:42.920 how Stuff Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:47.120 I'm Josh Clark with Charles W. Chuck Bryant and Jerry 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:52.320 Roland and this is Stuff you Should Know trying on 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:57.280 some new stuff. The two least extreme guys covering yet 0:01:57.320 --> 0:02:03.560 another extreme sports topic. I'm extreme in my easy goingness, 0:02:03.600 --> 0:02:07.600 extremely easy going, extremely laid back. Yeah, I always feel 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:10.720 weird when we do uh, what do we do? Base 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:17.040 jumping and parkoury and uh, I just feel wholly unqualified. 0:02:17.120 --> 0:02:18.640 It's a great way to start out a shop, right 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:21.400 share It is like, don't listen to a word we say. 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:24.760 But now, these things always have like the coolest backstories, 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:27.560 and there's always like a handful of people who like 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:30.919 just take it to the next level, and there's always 0:02:30.919 --> 0:02:33.600 like underground like up stars. It's it's like all of 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:36.480 those things, So I find these pretty pretty interesting. I 0:02:36.480 --> 0:02:40.760 wouldn't want to just focus on these entirely. Yeah, you know, 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:43.600 I think we'd both be dissatisfied with our work, but 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:48.400 ex cast with Josh and Chuck. Yeah, oh actually yeah, 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:51.680 I see. No, I'm disregarding it stuff, but I like 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:54.320 them still. Yeah. I think the history for sure of 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:56.840 this is super interesting. Yeah, and if you're if you 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:01.240 aren't familiar, we didn't misspell the title of this episode. 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:06.520 Buildering is actually a combination of buildings, like you walk into, 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:11.600 maybe eat luncheon, possibly do some work, um, you know, 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:14.920 go on to Facebook in sure, Yeah, you can do 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:18.160 those in some buildings, um, get chased out of the 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:20.480 basement via ghost. There's a lot of things that can 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:22.760 happen with a building, so everybody knows what a building is. 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:27.799 Then there's also something called bouldering, which is um climbing 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:31.400 huge enormous rocks. Basically, it's like um, like rock climbing, 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:33.799 but but it's like a rather than a mountain or 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.400 a cliff face or something like that, it's an actual boulder, 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:39.360 like a huge giant boulder, And um, I think it's 0:03:39.400 --> 0:03:42.280 it's harder than than rock climber. It can be depending 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:44.640 on the boulder, I'm sure. Um. But if you put 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:47.520 those two things together, you get this new term, this 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:52.520 relatively new term called buildering, and it is basically climbing 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:55.920 those buildings that we mentioned before. Yeah. I didn't know 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:58.320 this was a term either. Honestly, I didn't need because 0:03:58.360 --> 0:04:03.160 when I saw it, I went, huh did you? And 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:05.839 then it sucks you into the article and you said, 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.080 I've got to learn more about this. Well yeah, and 0:04:08.080 --> 0:04:09.840 then when I clicked on and I said, oh, these 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:13.640 are just those those wackos who uh climb you know, 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:18.880 tall towers illegally, mostly illegally. You got all that right. 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:23.640 It's illegal almost across the board. The buildings they usually 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:26.480 climb are tall, especially the ones they get pressed. And 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:29.760 every single person who does this is a wacko. Yeah, 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:31.440 and we'll go over this, but they a lot of 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:34.720 times we'll get arrested and stuff. Um. The same as 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:39.760 uh as as the tight rope walker that that wacky 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:45.000 French guy what was his name? Ha ha ha ha, Yeah, 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:47.719 the guy who walks between the World Trade Center towers 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:50.880 and Man on Wire. I think we've gone over this 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:54.800 Man on Wire, great documentary very bad movie, was it? 0:04:56.000 --> 0:04:58.680 I just don't know what they did to uh to 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:04.400 Ron John's eyes? Ron John what's his name? Not Ron John, 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:10.360 Don John Don John Don John. Yeah. Remember he made 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:12.280 a movie about a guy who was addicted to internet 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:18.559 porn but started dating Scarlett Johnson. What yeah? Wait wait yes, 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:22.719 Don John Don Juan. Wasn't it? No? I think it 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:25.880 was John. Okay, you're thinking of Don Juan DeMarco, which 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:28.720 was a great movie. But you're talking about j g L. 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:30.880 That's I didn't know. You're talking about a character that's 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.520 like the guy's not called any of those things, you know, 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:36.080 but he like he wrote that movie that was like 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:38.880 his movie, His baby, that was pretty good. They said, 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:40.800 what do you want to do? You can do anything 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:42.840 you want, and he's like, well, I have this one idea. 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:45.120 I want to make out with Scarlett Joe answer all right. 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:48.520 I liked him in Third Rock from the Sun. I 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:52.919 never saw that. It was a surprisingly good sitcom actually, 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:57.400 and it was pretty well written and well acted, stellar cast. Well, yeah, 0:05:57.440 --> 0:06:02.880 anything with what's his face? Syndum super into. Yeah, everybody 0:06:02.920 --> 0:06:05.240 loves what's his face? I know who you're talking about. 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:08.600 What's his face? I'm blanking everything. You know, we should 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:11.560 tell people were recording in the morning. That's why. Oh 0:06:11.640 --> 0:06:14.440 my brain is so foggy. I hadn't really thought about that. 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:17.599 But yeah, it's gonna make a substantial difference. It's gonna 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:19.800 really drag this one down. I think we haven't done 0:06:19.800 --> 0:06:22.160 that in a long time. No, for good reason. It's 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:25.039 John Lithgow that you're thinking. That's right. But I'm also drunk, 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:28.600 so hopefully it'll from the night before, from last night 0:06:28.600 --> 0:06:32.839 I thought you stunk. Um, I think so yet. No, 0:06:33.120 --> 0:06:40.719 I didn't actually drink a thing last night. For the record, 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:44.520 I did not either. Oh good, we're both teetotally last night. 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:48.320 So um, yes, bad movie. The only good thing about 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:51.800 the Man on Wire movie was, um, some of the 0:06:51.839 --> 0:06:56.360 shots of the actual walk itself. Most of that looked 0:06:56.480 --> 0:07:01.719 really astounding. But um man, it was so bad. Well, 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:05.479 you know, I think that there's an overreliance on special 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:09.720 effects these days to really move a movie along, rather 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:13.800 than good old fashioned plot and and writing and dialogue. 0:07:14.160 --> 0:07:16.240 They're just like, oh no, no, we're gonna have these 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:18.800 great shots. Are these great effects? Or this thing's gonna 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.200 blow up. I mean that's long been a problem. I 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:23.640 mean it's like what action movies are made of, right, 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:26.560 but it seems to have crept its way into movies 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:29.320 all over the spectrum. Yeah, and it sounds like what 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:31.640 you're talking about, and this is well and he did this, 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:34.640 he did this. Uh, he broke the third wall and 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:36.320 did a lot of talking to the audience in this 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:41.640 ridiculous from accent, and um did he really? Yeah? Man, 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:43.600 it was. It was all just weird, a lot of 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:45.760 weird choices. And I think it's also a case of 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:51.360 a documentary that's so good just stop there. Yeah, you 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:53.160 don't need to see it played out fictionally, you know. 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:57.160 I mean that's like one of the pinnacles of documentary filmmaker. 0:07:57.760 --> 0:07:59.960 Al Right, well we killed some time. Yeah, that was great. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:04.120 Check we can So we're talking about the the guy 0:08:04.160 --> 0:08:06.080 you're talking about. I can't believe neither one of us 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:10.360 can remember the actual man's name. Um. He he walked 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:13.200 on a tight rope between the World Trade Center towers. 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:17.000 That's not buildering. Um, there are people. There's a guy 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:20.160 named Shipwreck Kelly who used to um go up on 0:08:20.320 --> 0:08:23.520 like the top of like a construction site and like 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:26.960 stack chairs and sit on top of them. That's an 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:32.800 absolutely insane not building. Buildering is strictly climbing up scaling 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:37.720 a building on the outside to preferably get to the top, right, 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:39.840 And there's all different ways you can do it, like 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:44.040 you can do it um free climbing, which is absolutely 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:48.880 totally and completely insane. And also I want to go 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:53.120 on record here about this as well. Do not do this. 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:56.120 Do not. I don't care if you're one of the 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:59.160 people were talking about. I'm I'm begging with you to 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:03.199 stop doing what you're doing. It's one of the most 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:06.640 dangerous things in person can do. You're climbing a building, 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:08.880 and a lot of buildings are not made to be climbed. 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:10.880 Some of them are like, well, yeah, I mean that's 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:13.000 an obvious building to climb. Others are like how are 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:15.720 you doing this, especially if you're free climbing. But there's 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:18.520 a lot of other implements people people can use that 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:21.400 will go over as well. But that that is building. 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:24.079 It's not like Philippe Petite who walked on a wire 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:26.880 right right, that's sorry, I had to look up that name. 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:30.439 I'm glad you did to stop people from screaming in 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:33.920 their car. Yeah. Should we talk about the history, Yeah, 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.400 let's because this was to me the most interesting thing 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:39.040 about all of this is when I think of buildering 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:43.160 or climbing buildings, I think, well, this has been going 0:09:43.200 --> 0:09:47.120 on for probably thirty forty years max, maybe about the 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:51.520 time that Mountain Dew really turned extreme. That's right, Uh, 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:54.400 not true at all. And I was genuinely shocked to 0:09:54.440 --> 0:10:00.400 know that people have been climbing buildings and in an 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:03.040 extreme sports way. They just didn't call it that. Then, 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:07.760 since there have been tall buildings right like in nineteen 0:10:07.880 --> 0:10:11.280 hundred is when this started, which is about the time 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:14.760 people started building like genuinely tall buildings. Yeah, it's crazy. 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:19.000 There's a guy called the father of modern urban climbing, uh, 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:24.640 Jeoffrey Winthrop Young, And he wrote a book, small book 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:27.840 called a guide book, if you will, called The Roof 0:10:27.880 --> 0:10:33.440 Climbers Guide to Trinity about Trinity College buildings in Cambridge, England. 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:37.280 And basically it was like, here's how you do it, mates, 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:41.880 here's what you should climb on campus, and here's the 0:10:41.920 --> 0:10:44.079 best way to go about it. Yeah, and like there 0:10:44.080 --> 0:10:47.760 were even little diagrams that was like that would show 0:10:47.760 --> 0:10:50.240 you which way to climb. He would reference like this 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:53.040 one window sill or there's a ledge next to this 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:55.679 one drain pipe or the actual drain pipe work. Like 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:58.960 he really kind of spelled out how you could make 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:01.960 your way up to each olding and it was kind 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:05.760 of like this cool underground thing to do on Trinity 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:09.400 College's campus. That's right, And I can't still it's hard 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:10.719 to believe to me that this is going on a 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:16.959 uh yeah yeah, I mean college didn't have always been 0:11:17.000 --> 0:11:21.280 college students, So don't you think that's true? You know? So? Um, 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:24.520 Jeoffrey Winthrop Young his name really is kind of fun 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:28.160 to say, isn't it. Um, he published this is kind 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:30.760 of like a little underground smash. From what I understand, 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:35.520 the the deans of the college were not happy about 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:40.400 this to suppress it, right. Um. But then almost forty 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:45.160 years later, another pamphlet or mini book came out and 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:48.880 it was written student pseudonymously by someone named Whipple Snaith 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:54.640 turned out to be Noel Symington. Another great game, and 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:57.920 he he published something called The Night Climbers of Cambridge, 0:11:58.120 --> 0:12:02.559 another university in Cambridge, and um basically did the same thing. 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:04.559 It was you could even call it a follow up, 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:08.440 and he actually I think coined that term night climbing, 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:12.400 which is still used around that town today to denote 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:14.600 climbing up buildings at night. And the whole reason you 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:16.000 do it at night it is because you don't want 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:19.040 to get caught. Yeah, it's crazy that Cambridge was the 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:23.520 was the birth of modern you know, extreme climbing. Yeah. Uh. 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:26.840 And here in the United States, however, when it really 0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:30.920 started happening was when we started building skyscrapers, that is 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:35.520 to say, the the first like years of the twentieth century. Uh, 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.720 and there were it's weird there. It seems like there's 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:42.160 been a lot of Spiderman and human flies and think 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:45.000 they maybe he should just be a little more original 0:12:45.120 --> 0:12:49.000 rather than just say I'm the new Spider Man, right. Uh. 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:51.040 And for God's sake, that they should stop wearing Spider 0:12:51.080 --> 0:12:52.840 Man outfits when they do this, because that just looks 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.720 kind of silly. And while we're on it, they should 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:58.920 stop making Spider Man movies over and over again. Oh 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:00.640 the new one is so good though, is it? I 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:04.720 haven't seen it. Yeah, And I'm totally against the whole 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:06.839 thing where it's like and there's a new guy, but 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:10.560 this new one really like kind of captured the comic 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:13.080 book thing. Okay, I'll give it a shot. Yeah, I was. 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:16.880 I was pretty taken with it. Okay. So, yeah, we 0:13:16.920 --> 0:13:20.319 started building skyscrapers here in the US and almost out 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:21.960 of the gate, people are like, I want to climb that, 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:24.319 and some people didn't, like you were saying. There was 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:28.160 one guy who's the Human Fly, the original human Fly, 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:32.600 I think, and supposedly he got that nickname from Grover Cleveland, 0:13:32.960 --> 0:13:36.080 president at the time. But this guy's name was Harry H. 0:13:36.240 --> 0:13:39.600 Gardner and he was quite a character. Actually, yeah, did 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.600 you look up pictures of this dude. It's crazy. He 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.119 looks like, uh, I mean, I don't know what I expected, 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:48.440 maybe that he would just look a little different from 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:51.600 his peers of the day, but he literally looks like 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:54.960 he walked out of an accounting office in New York 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:59.880 City and started climbing buildings. Yeah, that's basically it's basically 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:02.920 what he did. And he got really good at it too. Yeah, 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:05.120 he got the slick back hair and the glasses. And 0:14:05.520 --> 0:14:08.679 there's one great picture of him. He would usually wear 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:12.360 this kind of look like a weird white jumpsuit was 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:16.160 his outfit as the Human Fly. But um, there's this 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:17.760 one that one great picture I hope you saw it 0:14:17.760 --> 0:14:21.680 where he's hanging off of a building ledge and a 0:14:21.720 --> 0:14:24.600 full three piece suit like doffing his cap. I did 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:27.280 see that. Pretty neat, Yeah he had he had a 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:29.880 little bit of pinoche. You could say, yes, yeah, is 0:14:29.880 --> 0:14:33.400 there anything Okay, No, there is something more unsettling. But something, 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:38.640 something very unsettling, is old timey athletic wear, you know. 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:41.880 And the other thing I thought of that's even more 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:47.360 unsettling his old timey wheelchairs. The weaker ones. They look 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:51.120 neither comfortable nor safe. No, and they're they're clearly haunted 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:55.840 by their past occupants. Yeah, for sure, the haunted wheelchair. 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:57.840 That's a good short story. I think so too. Man 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:01.720 um so Gardner are one of his first big moves 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:06.000 as he climbed Detroit News is twelve story uh Ad 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:09.600 building in nineteen sixteen. And as you'll see, with most 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:12.400 of these folks, they don't I mean they call it 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:15.120 night climbing. But aside from the early days, they kind 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:16.880 of said, you know what, that's kind of for the birds. 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:19.240 Day climbing is where it's at because we kind of 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:22.040 want people to see us. Yeah, because I mean, at 0:15:22.080 --> 0:15:25.800 the time, people didn't have a lot to do. You know, 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:28.000 it's a big thing, like you could sit around and 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:32.280 and read and that's great, but people were looking for 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:35.040 stuff to do during the day too. So yeah, like 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:38.080 you you could see Daredevil's doing crazy stuff in the 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:41.160 cities around this time. And one of them was that 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:44.040 climb of the Detroit News building. Did you say it 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:47.000 was twelve stories? Yeah, twelve stories and you know he 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:49.880 hit it right at noon when people could leave their 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:54.000 offices at lunch leave their martinis on the table. Um. 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:56.440 And the Detroit News actually covered it, and all the 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:59.040 newspapers were always knocked out by these, you know, feats 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:02.640 of daring do uh And they said they dared not cheer. 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:06.680 Men stood and stared with bulging eyes. Women hugged their 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:11.280 babies to their breasts and held their breath. Yeah it's 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:14.400 a lot. It reads easier than it than it speaks 0:16:14.800 --> 0:16:18.960 that line. Yes, you're right, but um, so this was 0:16:19.000 --> 0:16:23.400 like a huge deal in Detroit, and so Gardner was like, well, 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:25.520 I'll just do it again. It was pretty easy this time. 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.840 I lived. Let's let me press my luck another time, 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:31.720 let me cheat death again. So we scheduled another one 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:34.360 just a couple of days later. But um, Apparently the 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:37.360 crowds that turned out were so massive and throwing the 0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:40.760 area and just disrupted everything around there that they're like, 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:43.240 we we can't do this, you can't climb, so they 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:47.680 canceled it. Yeah, it's kind of a bummer, but he 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:49.600 would not be deterred. He would go on to climb 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:54.280 many buildings, including the sixteen story Empire Building in Birmingham, Alabama, 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:58.200 which I didn't know Birmingham had. I know, this is 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:00.920 like back in the time when any city had a 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:03.960 shot at being a great American city. You know. Oh 0:17:04.000 --> 0:17:05.920 he had to do is get a little investment, maybe 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:09.359 has some cattle or timber or something, and then build 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:12.280 some skyscrapers. That's right in Birmingham is one of the 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:16.080 great American cities, by the way. Uh. And then in Vancouver, 0:17:16.240 --> 0:17:18.639 and it seems like a lot of this has happened 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:23.440 over the years. In Vancouver, Um, the coup, the seventeen 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:28.720 story World Building. Uh, there he climbed as well. Yes, yeah, 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:32.879 so he's like traveling North America climbing these buildings is 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:37.000 like a public spectacle. The President calls him the human fly. Um, 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:39.920 he's feeling pretty great and then all of a sudden, 0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:43.240 he just drops out of public view and thence he 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:45.359 drops off the side of the building. No, he didn't. 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:47.600 No one knows what happened to him. They don't know 0:17:47.640 --> 0:17:49.600 how he died, where he went, or anything like that. 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:53.480 But supposedly the best guess is that he was found 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:58.040 he was murdered in Paris at the Eiffel Tower, because 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:02.040 there was an unidentified body that apparently matched his description 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:04.000 that was found beaten to death at the base of 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:08.600 the Eiffel Tower in I think six or something like that. Yeah, 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:10.640 imagine a lot of people didn't get beaten to death 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:15.119 in Paris either back then. No, they were taking a 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:18.960 break after the rain of tear. They're like, that really 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:20.840 got out of hand. Let's all just be peaceful for 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:24.640 a while. Shall we take a break? Yeah, alright, we'll 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:57.760 go chalk up and uh scale Jerry's desk over there. Hey, Chuck, 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:02.280 So we're back and all of this is m reminded 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:06.119 me of the going over the Niagara Falls in a 0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:09.320 Barrel episode. Oh that's right, that was another one. Um. 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:12.400 I feel like we should do an episode on like 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:14.800 Daredevils in general. You know, we did that two part 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:19.080 around Evil Kinevil, we did one of Daredevils? Um did 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:21.880 we on Daredevil's I knew we did Stuntman and Canniball run. 0:19:22.080 --> 0:19:25.000 I think we did Daredevils. Huh, I I think I 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:27.800 think this closes the book. Oh, I was gonna say, 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:29.439 I think we need to reduce some of this stuff. 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:31.960 All right, but do you remember the one guy who 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:35.560 went over the falls and um over, yeah, over Niagara 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:38.800 Falls in a barrel and lived and then died I 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:42.199 think slipping on an orange peel like years later in 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:45.000 the Three Students episode. That's like the greatest worst thing 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:48.240 I've ever heard. It's pretty good. So so who else 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:52.440 Gardner leads the way? Apparently he was known for saying, um, 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:56.359 like a hundred something men have tried to do what 0:19:56.440 --> 0:20:00.760 I do and died trying, which is a lie. Probably 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:04.440 there's probably some people who did you know, died emulating 0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:07.920 him or imitating him. But there were other successful ones too, 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:12.680 successful human Flies, early Spider Man, if you will. Yeah, 0:20:12.840 --> 0:20:15.359 going back again to the nineties, this is a little 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:18.159 out of order sequentially, but a dude named Henry Roland 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:22.840 broke his hip felt only about thirty five ft in Iowa, 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:27.439 climbing the Davis County Courthouse and this was kind of 0:20:27.480 --> 0:20:29.159 took him out of commission for a while, but he 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:31.520 would not be deterred as well. That's the kind of 0:20:31.600 --> 0:20:36.040 the rolling narrative here with these dudes, as you can't 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:40.040 keep him down. Eight years later he returned climbed that 0:20:40.119 --> 0:20:43.280 same courthouse and only twelve minutes, which is pretty impressive, 0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:46.199 and then put his hat on the head of the 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:49.320 blind Justice statue. I know. That's the thing, like, this 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:51.720 is a time when not wearing a hat was so 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:55.359 scandalous that human flies would wear a hat out of 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:59.520 doors while they were climbing, you know, I just love that. 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:02.200 And then there was a dude that died too, right, Yeah, 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:03.840 I think there are a lot of guys that died, 0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:07.520 but this one was I think fairly well known and died. HF. 0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:11.800 Young died in nineteen three. He fell off the Hotel 0:21:11.880 --> 0:21:15.600 martinique Um which was a nine story drop for him. 0:21:15.720 --> 0:21:18.879 Which will do it? That will? That will kill you? 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:23.280 Although I was on Mosaic Science magazine site and they 0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:27.040 had um I think it was called how to Survive 0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:29.159 a Fall or something like that, and it was basically 0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:33.000 about like on your way down what to do? Yeah, um, 0:21:33.960 --> 0:21:35.800 but not just like what to do. It wasn't just 0:21:35.840 --> 0:21:39.720 an instructional thing it was. It was also like a 0:21:39.800 --> 0:21:42.960 look at the study of falling and how we fall, 0:21:43.040 --> 0:21:44.879 which is kind of an understudied thing, but there are 0:21:44.920 --> 0:21:46.760 some people who are really like taking a hard look 0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:50.600 at it, and um, I don't remember the exact gist 0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:52.320 of it, but they do kind of tell you exactly 0:21:53.000 --> 0:21:55.320 the best way to improve your chances from a huge 0:21:55.320 --> 0:21:58.080 fall and you don't know that now, No, I forgot, 0:21:58.359 --> 0:22:01.119 so I'm I'm dead meat if I fall. That's probably 0:22:01.119 --> 0:22:03.800 the one key takeaway. Well, I think the key takeaway 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:07.440 is everybody should go read this article. It's from Mosaic 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:11.000 Science magazine and it's called I think like how to 0:22:11.040 --> 0:22:13.920 Survive a fall. Jeez. Yeah, it's a good one. That's 0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:16.760 a good reading. So HF young dies very sad, and 0:22:16.800 --> 0:22:19.160 then the couple of more folks died the next year. 0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:22.120 And then that's when cities started to say, all right, 0:22:23.160 --> 0:22:25.520 we're not calling it buildering yet because we're not in 0:22:25.560 --> 0:22:29.600 a time machine, but these crazy dudes need to knock 0:22:29.640 --> 0:22:33.639 it off. Yeah, They're like, this is wildly irresponsible for 0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:36.040 us to allow this and not only allow it, but 0:22:36.400 --> 0:22:40.280 like assemble the citizens at lunchtime to come watch this thing, 0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:43.719 you know for sure, So they did, they started an 0:22:43.720 --> 0:22:46.600 outlaw and it kind of fell to the wayside. And 0:22:46.760 --> 0:22:49.680 um some of these early guys, like you said, building 0:22:49.760 --> 0:22:53.840 is not a term yet, so there called urban climbers, 0:22:54.040 --> 0:22:56.480 at least they are now. But there's a there's actually 0:22:56.520 --> 0:23:00.720 a pretty big distinction between urban climbing and builder, although 0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:04.040 they can very frequently overlap, and some people do both. 0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:08.440 Um But urban climbing is like that would include climbing 0:23:08.480 --> 0:23:10.760 up a ladder on a construction crane, on the top 0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:14.320 of a skyscraper, as some people do. Oh yeah, I 0:23:14.320 --> 0:23:17.000 can't see those videos. I know. It's it's just too 0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:20.280