1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Football is about the Jimmies and Joe's and x's and o's. 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: Guys, writing numbers, three jets, Spielberg, I'm one all right, 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:14,239 Speaker 2: Nast big Fly, Turbo, Zelda fourteen, Diablo, whim out a bunch, right, 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: Robert de Niro. 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 3: It's time to get out the chotboard and diagram. Some 6 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 3: plays make sure you get enough dep like twelve yard 7 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 3: fourteen yards break on everything. 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 2: This is Inside Football with former Colts and NFL coach 9 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: Rick Venturie. Well, that third week of Colts training camp 10 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: is here and we are back at and breaking it 11 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: all down on Inside Football with Rick Venturrey. Welcome back 12 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 2: to the podcast, everybody, Thanks for joining in. I'm Matt 13 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 2: Taylor on the road today, coming to you from Baltimore, Maryland. 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:44,519 Speaker 1: This week, the. 15 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 2: Colts held a joint practice with the Ravens on Tuesday 16 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: ahead of their preseason game with the Ravens coming up 17 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 2: tomorrow night. 18 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 1: Thursday night. 19 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: We're taping this on Wednesday, telling you what's going on 20 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: with the Colts here at the present time. And Rick, 21 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: I am in the Land of Crabcakes, your old stopping 22 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: grand before the Colts moved back in nineteen eighty four, 23 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: how are things for you back in the Hoosier State 24 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:05,199 Speaker 2: right now? 25 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 3: Well, it's kind of a letdown not being there with you. 26 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 3: I didn't know how that was gonna work minute. You know, 27 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 3: it is a little bit of a leadown. And I 28 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 3: find it ironic that our first joint practices is at 29 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 3: Owings Mills, you know where obviously I got my start, 30 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 3: I mean my first two years of professional football right 31 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,199 Speaker 3: at Owings Mills. You know what, I had to laugh 32 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,399 Speaker 3: to myself. I said, the last time the Colts are 33 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 3: at Owings Mills, they were on the Nave Flowers heading west. 34 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 2: And it's really cool, and I mean it was, you know, 35 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 2: going along with that, it was surreal yesterday. I mean 36 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 2: the Ravens, like you said, they have their training facility 37 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: and the same town where the Colts were before they 38 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: moved to Indianapolis. And I was talking with with Colts 39 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: COO Pete Ward last night and he said that the 40 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 2: Colts facility was just a handful of miles in a 41 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: handful of minutes down the road from where the Ravens 42 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: facility it's currently located. And hearing that gave me some 43 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: really good historical goosebumps. 44 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. 45 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 2: I thought that was pretty cool and certainly yourself and Pete, 46 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 2: you guys live that entire deal. 47 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 3: Well, there's only three of us really left after you know, 48 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 3: Jim's passing. There's Pete, there's myself, and there's John Scott, 49 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 3: you know, who's still essentially work with the Colts. I mean, 50 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 3: that's it, and you know that we're there that faithful night. 51 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 3: So yeah, it would have meant a lot to me. 52 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 3: I wish, I wish I could have made that one 53 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 3: because that like I said that, that, like you said, 54 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 3: I got a little goosebumps myself. 55 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was cool to see the horseshoe logo, 56 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: the brand, the Colors, you know, in that town. I 57 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: talked with Jerry Sandusky there radio play by play guy, 58 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 2: and he said the same thing, first time in forty 59 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: one years, the culture back in Owings Mills, and cool 60 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 2: to see the Colts in that setting at least for 61 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: an afternoon, right with all the history that that's gone 62 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: on between the two franchises and certainly the two you know, and. 63 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 3: It's you know, it's a good day, you know, as 64 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 3: a real solid day for the Colts. I mean, I 65 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 3: love now that we're really into significant things. I did 66 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 3: think that the night practice last week in Westfield ended 67 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 3: up being one of that. I added that to my 68 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 3: significant six six occasions, right, you know, the three preseason 69 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 3: games and the two joint practices, And I have to 70 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 3: say I have to give Stike and credit on that 71 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 3: when that ended up being a very significant practice that 72 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 3: Thursday night. But you know, I you know, to go 73 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 3: to Baltimore in you know, to work against an elite 74 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 3: team and hold your own here in the first week, 75 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:41,279 Speaker 3: that's really important. I mean, that's I'm being optimistic there. Yeah. 76 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 3: You know, Baltimore is a number one team on offense, 77 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 3: number one team rushing. You know, Lamars has the best 78 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 3: quarterback rating of anybody in the league. You know, they 79 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 3: were number eight on defense, number one in sacks, a 80 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 3: really good secondary. They got three front guys with thirty 81 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 3: three sacks combined. So you know, when you go in 82 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 3: there and you hold your own on opening day, I mean, 83 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: that's that's a really good thing, you know, And I've 84 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 3: talked to you off air, you know, one of the 85 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: really important things of the first week, and this just 86 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 3: adds a bonus to it. With the first preseason games, 87 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: this is this is a bonus because you get a 88 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 3: composite rating here on players. Is that I always felt 89 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 3: like that the one thing you really wanted to come 90 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 3: out of the first week was to find your baselines, 91 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 3: you know, where you know good and bad, you know, 92 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 3: but primarily you know, where do we really have to 93 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 3: fix that? Where you know, where are we? You know, 94 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,239 Speaker 3: we had a couple you know, pre snap penalties on offense, 95 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 3: you know, but better to get them, you know, over 96 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 3: with now, you know. But that's jitters and stuff like that, 97 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 3: you know, I mean that kind of stuff. But I 98 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 3: think it's it's really important to find those baselines and 99 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 3: having this pre practice and then the game it's you know, 100 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 3: and we're still at that stage where there's enough juice 101 00:04:58,600 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 3: to come out and play the game hard. 102 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 2: So Shane Stike in after practice on Tuesday reveals that 103 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson will start at quarterback coming up Thursday night. 104 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: The plan is for him to play about a quarter 105 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 2: and a half and then Daniel Jones will play the 106 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 2: rest of the half, and then Jones would start the 107 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 2: second preseason game next Saturday against the Packers, with the 108 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 2: quarterbacks flipping that playing time. Same strategy, just different games 109 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 2: if you will. So are you good with that playing? 110 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: Rick? 111 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 3: Is that? 112 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: Is that enough of a good look for those two 113 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: guys at this point? 114 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 3: Well, I think it's a start, you know. I mean, 115 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 3: I think the only difference I would probably do, I 116 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 3: would probably let Ar take the whole half and then 117 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 3: let you know, and let Jonesy take it the second game, 118 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 3: and strictly because I think once you get into the rhythm, 119 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 3: let him play, and if you get a too good 120 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 3: two minute drill there at the end, you will evaluate 121 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 3: them both. And I like to just let the guy 122 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 3: have the rhythm and let them play it. But I 123 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 3: can understand. I think Shane has really been careful. I mean, 124 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 3: he has been so careful. You know, we've seen it 125 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: every day. I mean, he has really made it an 126 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,679 Speaker 3: open competition in terms of reps. I mean, there's nobody. 127 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm really kind of amazed at how well 128 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 3: that's gone, you know, and there's really not a lot. 129 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 3: There's not a substantial separation, which is probably a good 130 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 3: thing for Richardson because you know, even yesterday he had 131 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 3: a much higher percentage of completions. You know, maybe not 132 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 3: the big plays, but you know, the thing with Richardson 133 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 3: is completion average. That's what is the area that's got 134 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 3: to go up, and other than the one day last Saturday, Yeah, 135 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 3: you know, he's been much better there. And you know, 136 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 3: if you know, and I've always said, if there's not 137 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 3: a lot of separation, it's like when we were kids 138 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 3: playing baseball, Ty goes to the runner, and in this case, 139 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: they're both pretty good runners. But Richardson is a tremendous 140 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 3: explosive runner. So you know, as long as his percentage 141 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 3: is up, you know you're gonna you're gonna give him 142 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 3: a little bit of an edge because of the explosiveness 143 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 3: and explosive plays that he can create, both of his 144 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 3: legs and the deep ball. So you know, yeah, I think, 145 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 3: like I said, I has really done a terrific job 146 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 3: of splitting that down the middle in a very intelligent 147 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 3: but competitive way. 148 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: What about you know, the players around them? 149 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: Though, in these preseason games, does it need to be 150 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 2: apples to apples comparison, I mean to the same skill, 151 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: same skill players need to play around both guys so 152 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: you get a clear evaluation. 153 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, yes, I mean, I think and I 154 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 3: think particularly in the offensive line. Okay, you know, I 155 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 3: think with your skill players. If you know, if if 156 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 3: Goual's playing a snap or Mitchell, the way he's playing 157 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 3: is you know, get snaps. You know, you know, the 158 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 3: tight ends can roll a little bit. I think the 159 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 3: most important thing, as far as apples to apples is 160 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 3: keep that offensive line as intact as you can, because 161 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 3: you know, I think there's a big drop off there, 162 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 3: and you know, I don't. You know, I don't necessarily 163 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 3: I don't necessarily want to see that backup line against 164 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 3: that Raven front. 165 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: I don't know what the Ravens are going to do. 166 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 2: I don't know what the Packers are going to do. 167 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 2: I got a hunch that the Ravens aren't going to 168 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: play their front line guys, especially in the fight seven 169 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 2: on defense. So what about I mean, if one goes 170 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: up against a starting defense the other one doesn't. What 171 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 2: if one has a two minute drive at the end 172 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 2: of a half the other one doesn't. How do you 173 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 2: how do you evaluate those things? I mean, just thinking 174 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 2: about that makes my head spin. 175 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 3: Well, you're going to do the best you can, That's 176 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 3: what I said. I would probably give them a full 177 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 3: half this weekend next week and not worry about a 178 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 3: quarter and a half and more than anything else, you know, 179 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 3: you really can't control what the other guy is going 180 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 3: to do. Yeah, and so what you might have to 181 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 3: do is the third preseason game may be a significant 182 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 3: tiebreaker if there are inequities as you're talking about, which 183 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 3: they're very well might be an experienced you know, top 184 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 3: tier team like the Ravens are probably going to play less, 185 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 3: you know in that regard. You know, I don't know 186 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:05,200 Speaker 3: so much about the Packers yet, but you know that 187 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 3: could happen. There's no doubt. I would like each guy 188 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 3: to get a realistic two minute drill that he's already 189 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 3: warm in, not that he not that he's just come 190 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 3: off the bench and he's going to do it. But 191 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: you know that's why I like the half ers of 192 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 3: the half. But that's a small deal. But you know, 193 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 3: you still have the third game, and you know, to me, 194 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 3: to me, you know, we've had so much trouble with openers, 195 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 3: I'm not going to hold back on that if there's 196 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 3: any decision to be made or we're just not quite 197 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 3: ready to you know, go to Cincinnati and you don't 198 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 3: play that out too. So you know, we got we 199 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 3: got time. But you know, I don't. I don't know 200 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 3: that there's any answer to that question. And you're you're 201 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 3: certainly right to bring it up, because it can happen, 202 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 3: you know, at the end of the day, at the 203 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 3: end of the day, these guys, you know, these guys 204 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 3: have kind of showed who they are to me, particularly 205 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 3: Daniel Daniels, exactly the guy expected. AR five has improved 206 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 3: definitely a conscious improvement on the intermediate game and decision making. 207 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 3: So you know, if it you know, it may just 208 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 3: play out very close like this. And I said from 209 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 3: day one that because you can't really you can't really 210 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 3: evaluate a quarterback really until after Labor Day in regular 211 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 3: season games. 212 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: We found that out. 213 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we found that out all the way. 214 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 3: I mean, guys can tease you and then everything changes 215 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 3: on day one in September. So it you know, no 216 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: matter what we say, there will be an amount of 217 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 3: just gut decision here. I mean, they'll be you know, 218 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: it can never be totally objective in this game. There's 219 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 3: gonna be you know, you're gonna at the end of 220 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 3: the day say, you know, I just I look into 221 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 3: I look into Anthony's eyes, and I think he's ready, 222 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 3: you know, I mean, the biggest thing. I put two 223 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 3: sentences to two little phrases that I just keep looking at. 224 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 3: Can I trust Anthony Richardson and can Dan play like 225 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 3: he did in twenty two? I mean, those are the 226 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 3: two things I'm looking for every day out there. 227 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 2: Well, let's take both of those. With Anthony Richardson. We've 228 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 2: talked about this off the air. I mean, he's not 229 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 2: perfect by any means. He can still get better in 230 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: all facets of the passing game. But the reality is 231 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 2: Rick he is improved. He is completing more intermediate passes 232 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 2: and generally looks more poised in the passing game now 233 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 2: than he did at the end of last season. In 234 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 2: your opinion, how far has he come based on what 235 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 2: you've seen and could the Colts could they go out 236 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 2: and win a game based on how he looks to 237 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 2: you so far in training camp? 238 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 3: Well, you know, you know, it's much better. I mean, 239 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 3: it's much better than he left. I actually thought he 240 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 3: struggled in training camp last year. I didn't think he 241 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 3: looked as good last year in training camp as he 242 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 3: did as a rookie. There's definitely been a conscious effort 243 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 3: by the coaching staff and Anthony himself. I like the 244 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 3: fact that he's lighter. I just think he looks better lighter. 245 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 3: But I think there's been a big conscious effort to 246 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 3: be much more decisive. And when I say decisive early 247 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 3: in the day, you know, get a better get a 248 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 3: better pre snap look, get a better first step look, 249 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 3: and get rid of that ball quick. And don't think 250 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 3: you're going to hit a home run every time, you know, 251 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 3: get a five yard game, get it. And so every 252 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 3: time that he makes a decisive throw on time between 253 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 3: the numbers, I do jumping jacks because that is the 254 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 3: part of his game that is better. Now, you know, 255 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 3: in terms of does he have a totally We're not sure. 256 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 3: Thursday night last week he was terrific. I mean, it's 257 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 3: as good as I've ever seen him, both intermediate deep, 258 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 3: and then Saturday he was as bad as I've ever 259 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 3: seen him. Saturday morning he was horrendous, let's face it. 260 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 3: And so there's still an area of trust that he's 261 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 3: got to get through with me. But there's no question 262 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 3: that the area that I'm concerned with is there is improvement, 263 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 3: at least in practice. 264 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: What about Daniel Jones, What is going to make Thursday 265 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 2: night a good one for him has to win this job. 266 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: How can he separate himself? And the reason why I 267 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: asked that it just seems like whenever Anthony has. 268 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: A good day at camp, so does Jones. 269 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 2: And when Richardson is maybe a little bit off, Daniel 270 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 2: Jones is as well. To a certain degree, they've been 271 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 2: kind of mirroring each other to this point on practice 272 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 2: a little bit. 273 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think what really it is is Daniel 274 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 3: is going to be Daniel day in day out. The 275 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 3: word is steady. He's going to have high percentages. He's 276 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 3: not going to knock you out or wow you with 277 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 3: fantastic plays. He can make athletic plays. He's much more athletic, 278 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 3: but everything he does from personality wise to play is 279 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 3: never going to just excite you. But at the end 280 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 3: of the day, he has screw up much, very very accurate. 281 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 3: I mean, if Daniel Jones is the quarterback, I'm not 282 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 3: gonna panic, you know. And the difference in him is 283 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 3: I think there's a a more flat line, and I 284 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 3: don't mean that negative, a straight line, I should say, 285 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 3: in his performance day in and day out, where with 286 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 3: Anthony it's still jagged. But now it's been a lot better, 287 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 3: but there's still some things that you look in say Anthony, 288 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 3: oh my god, how did you do that? So you know, 289 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 3: I don't think you're gonna see much difference in Daniel. 290 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 3: You know, no matter what I mean, he's going to 291 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 3: be between sixty four sixty seven completions. He's gonna make 292 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 3: some play with his legs, not gonna make a lot 293 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 3: of explosive plays, but he's gonna wear you out underneath. 294 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 3: And I just think that's who he is, you know. Now, 295 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 3: you know, hopefully the coaching staff have you know, really 296 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 3: worked on his ego. You know, when you get beat 297 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 3: up like he did in New York after a great 298 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 3: start and you get beat up and you you know 299 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 3: you have failure, then you know it's an ego. It's 300 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 3: an ego problem. Like Sam Darnold now Minnesota was able 301 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 3: to you know, rework him and regroup him and O 302 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 3: become that And you know that's the big thing with Daniel. 303 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 3: Now you haven't seen any of that negativity in practice. 304 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 3: He's been consistent, day in day out. I mean, I 305 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 3: think he's a legitimate guy you can play with. Now 306 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 3: you will be a little bit more dependent on the 307 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 3: surrounding cast as he's the quarterback, you know, which I 308 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 3: think you know, we'll get into Mitchell in a minute. 309 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 3: Which I think the supporting cast is developing into a 310 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 3: pretty good looking group. 311 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's go right there. Ad Mitchell, his arrow 312 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: is pointing up. It is staying up. After a rocky 313 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 2: start to training camp, multiple drops in a couple of 314 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 2: practices early on in camp, he's bounced back in a 315 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: nice way. 316 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: And it's really kind of corresponded. 317 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 2: Since the full pads came on, since the physicality of 318 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: camp Rose, Mitchell has shine. He's making contested catches, he's 319 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 2: getting open. The route running is on full display, becoming 320 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 2: more reliable, hauling in passes. Yesterday against the Ravens and 321 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 2: that joint practice, Rick I thought he was the star 322 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 2: of the show, not backing down from elite players in 323 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: their secondary to Toby a woozy a. He had some 324 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 2: words for Marlin Humphrey beating him a couple of times 325 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 2: in some one on ones in some eleven on eleven periods. 326 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: How do you think Mitchell can put it all together? 327 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 2: That's the big question for him. I mean, he only 328 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: caught just over forty percent of his targets last season. 329 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 2: What are you expecting out of him from his sophomore 330 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: campaign in terms of a smoother year and just more 331 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 2: consistency is what it all boils down to for Ady Mitchell. 332 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that. That was a good day, a 333 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 3: big day for him yesterday. As you said, as you 334 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 3: aptly pointed out, that is a that is a real 335 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 3: top tear secondary that's full of top guys, even though 336 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 3: Hamilton wasn't there, but particularly at the corner, that's a 337 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 3: bunch of top tier experienced guys. So to have that 338 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 3: kind of day, you know, he could just to me, 339 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 3: let's look at the positive side. If he gets it right, 340 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 3: if he makes layups, if he catches the ball, just 341 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 3: make that catch us make the routine catches, you know, 342 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 3: particularly coming back inside, you know, he could elevate us 343 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 3: to a whole nother level. Because with Pearce, who is 344 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 3: a game breaker on the other side, if he comes through, 345 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 3: he is he has it all. I mean, he has 346 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,959 Speaker 3: speed to blow by you. He is the best separator. 347 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 3: You know. People can blow back on me downs as close, 348 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 3: but there's no separator on the outside. Uh like Mitchell, 349 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 3: you can't. You've seen him against Ward, You've seen him 350 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 3: against the Baltimore guys. He's very hard to cover off 351 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 3: the break because of that speed, and he comes off 352 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 3: that break and he snaps it. So you've got another 353 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 3: guy that is a game changer outside the numbers. If 354 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 3: he can continue to do it, I think, you know, 355 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 3: the only thing that we're you know, we're just you know, 356 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 3: in the back of my mind, I'm saying, just don't 357 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,239 Speaker 3: tease us. Make sure this is the improvement. But the 358 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 3: only time we're going to find out is when there's 359 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 3: live bullets, and we're going to find out in games. 360 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 3: I think more than anything when he's coming to the inside, 361 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,920 Speaker 3: when he's running a dig. The first time they throw 362 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 3: a dig and that linebacker's breathing down on him and 363 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 3: have safety's coming top down and he catches and secures 364 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 3: that ball, then you're going to see this old man 365 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 3: do a bunch of jumpings ass because that is the area. 366 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 3: That is the area where he broke down when the 367 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 3: you know, when the regular season started, when the fight 368 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,679 Speaker 3: was really there. You know, I think he can get it. 369 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 3: I liked him from the beginning. I liked him when 370 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 3: we drafted him, and then you know, there was those disappointments, 371 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:36,719 Speaker 3: and you know, people immediately begin to brand him as 372 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 3: a guy that doesn't like contact. I'm not sure of that. 373 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,479 Speaker 3: I'm really not so right now, you just love what 374 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 3: you see. And like I said, if he could come 375 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 3: along and play to that potential, he and Pierce on 376 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 3: the outside. Piers has become a you know, number one 377 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,719 Speaker 3: deep threat in the league. And now you got Warn 378 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 3: and Downs and Pittman and you got the running running game. 379 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 3: I mean, you're gonna but you do need that extra 380 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 3: guy on the outside. That is a game changer. Like 381 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 3: I use the analogy all the time. The Eagles got 382 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 3: really good. They got great on offense, you know when 383 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 3: they traded for aj Brown and got him and Smith 384 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 3: on the outside. So that now, like if you're playing 385 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 3: against Taylor and Warren and Downs, you're gonna pack that inside, okay. 386 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 3: And what do you do when you pack the inside, 387 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 3: You strip the outside to one on one. I mean, 388 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 3: I'm oversimplifying, but that's what happens. And so when you 389 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 3: can win out there. You saw what pe of the 390 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 3: difference Pierce made. If we get two of them, one 391 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 3: on each side. Lookout, all right. 392 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 2: Well, let's go over to the defensive side of the ball, 393 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 2: and I want to talk about the guys up front first, 394 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: and I thought they had another nice solid day against. 395 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: The Ravens and that was really good to see yesterday. 396 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 2: And specifically one of the standouts there lately has been 397 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 2: Latu Latu. He's been against the Colts anyways, speeding past 398 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 2: Brayden Smith a couple of times in practice, getting some 399 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: consistent pressure there. It's been talking about outwardly working on 400 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 2: that power game to add to his speed rushes, and 401 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 2: that allowed him to put up a fairly decent rookie 402 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 2: season thirty six pressures for sacks. How have you seen 403 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 2: him progress so far in training camp and what are 404 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: your mild expectations for him trying to grow as a 405 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 2: sophomore as well. 406 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, well he's been the Mitchell of the defense and 407 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 3: he could have that kind of impact. You know, I 408 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 3: think we're very I think we have a solid front. 409 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 3: I think our two starting tackles are just really really outstanding. 410 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 3: I mean Buckner and Grover. I mean, you know you're 411 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 3: gonna you can't find two better players than those guys inside, 412 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 3: So you know that isn't a worry. The depth. I'm 413 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 3: still concerned. You know, I'll tell you after we play 414 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 3: a game interior wise, and then you know, we have 415 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 3: a lot of solid edge guys, and you know, with 416 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 3: some diversity. I think Tim Milo is going to have 417 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 3: some diversity. I know Lewis Lewis, you know he can 418 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 3: come in and play a Dingbo's role, being an outside 419 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 3: gun first down, inside on third down. Quity seems to 420 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 3: be pretty much settled at eight to ten guys solid. 421 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 3: What we need is the impact guy, that guy that 422 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 3: when you know, I call him the ambient guy. We 423 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 3: need a guy to become the ambient guy. Where you know, 424 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 3: on Tuesday night, if I'm an offensive coordinator, I'm looking 425 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 3: at this team and I say, listen, that guy that 426 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 3: ninety seven over there or at fifty two, We've got 427 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 3: to turn the protection every time we throw it. We 428 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 3: have to tip him every time we throw it intermediate 429 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 3: because this guy can ruin our game. This guy is 430 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 3: a game changer. You know, I call a guy an 431 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 3: ambient when I feel like it. I need a schematic 432 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 3: approach to him, not just one on one technique was 433 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 3: I need a schematic real and that's why we really 434 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 3: need a lot too to do that. Although It's good 435 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 3: to see Ebu Khan back and I think he does 436 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 3: bring you know, speed to the edge on the table. 437 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 3: But a lot two is the guy that you drafted 438 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 3: to be that guy. Lou likes him. I think he 439 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 3: sees some qualities of Hendrickson there. He's had a really 440 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 3: good camp. I mean, you know, he will rush that passer. 441 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 3: He's got a terrific get off, and he has that 442 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 3: really good hand placement, you know with a you know, 443 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 3: if he's up and then he can make that he 444 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 3: can flash across your face. And the biggest key, and 445 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 3: you mentioned it in the question, is when tackle sits 446 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 3: soft on him and close the inside and run him 447 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 3: by the quarterback in those situations, can he learn how 448 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 3: to try, you know, change what we call speed to 449 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 3: power and when you see a guy sets off, you know, 450 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 3: rather than run around him, you just take him right 451 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 3: down the sternam and walk him right back to the quarterback. 452 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 3: And if he can accomplish that, you know, I think 453 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 3: Mathis did that really well when he who was here. 454 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 3: Freeney was more of a speed spin guy. But you know, 455 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 3: Ansets could turn that into into power and I think 456 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 3: that's that will be the key but you know, he's 457 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 3: done a really good job. He looks good and uh, 458 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 3: you know again, but I think that's a necessity. I 459 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,239 Speaker 3: you know, I don't think we can just have a 460 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 3: solid defensive line. I think you have to have that 461 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 3: impact edge rusher, you know, that can make the difference. 462 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you me, how badly do the 463 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 2: Colts need someone to turn into a stud? Just a 464 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 2: badass that makes the play when the game's on the line. 465 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 3: Great way to put it. And that's what you gotta have, 466 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 3: you know, you you know, in two minutes or the 467 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,479 Speaker 3: key third down, you know, in the game, and in 468 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 3: two minutes when you're not blitzing a lot, you got 469 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,120 Speaker 3: to have that guy that makes the difference, that can 470 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 3: make that play in that moment. We yes, stud, you 471 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 3: call it. That's exactly right. Impact guy. And the other 472 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 3: thing is once you have an impact guy, let's say 473 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 3: it's a Miles Garrett, you know, or or you know 474 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 3: somebody like that Parsons. What happens also is they get 475 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 3: so much attention that everybody else now is one on one. 476 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 3: Everybody else gets ideal matchups, and if you bring the 477 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 3: fifth guy into it to the equation, you know, you 478 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 3: got a chance to really get a bad matchup on 479 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 3: a back or something like that. So yeah, I you know, 480 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,199 Speaker 3: and there's no there's not gonna be an excuse for 481 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 3: not doing it because this secondary is long. You know, 482 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 3: hopefully we get Wally back and hopefully we can stay 483 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 3: healthy because this is a much better secondary, which a 484 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 3: much better scheme, which will you know, force the quarterback 485 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 3: to hold it a little bit longer. You know, there's 486 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 3: not there's not gonna be any excuses for not getting 487 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 3: to the quarterback. And again, Lato's probably got to be 488 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 3: the guy. I'm I'm gonna be interested when we play 489 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 3: live with Timlowe because I see some things in him 490 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 3: that I really like. And he hasn't you know, it 491 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 3: hasn't you know, been you know, great yet, but I've 492 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 3: seen him in some of those one on ones. He 493 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 3: is a powerful He's kind of the opposite of Latto. 494 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 3: He's a power guy with enough cutting ability, So you know, 495 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 3: I'll be interested to see him the more we play 496 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:09,719 Speaker 3: in games. 497 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 2: I want to talk about linebacker for just a second 498 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 2: because that first depth chart was released before the preseason 499 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 2: game and Cameron mcgroen's name was listed as the starting 500 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 2: linebacker at the will spot over Jalen Carlis and mcgron. 501 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 2: For those that don't know, local kid from Lawrence Central 502 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 2: went to Michigan. He's heading into his third full season 503 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,719 Speaker 2: with the Colts. He was picked up off the New 504 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 2: England practice squad late in twenty twenty two, but last 505 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 2: season played nine games but just one snap on defense, 506 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 2: and for his career, he's played in just eight snaps 507 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 2: on defense in the regular season. But he's making the 508 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 2: most of his chants this year in camp. Sire Franklin's 509 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 2: been banged up, but again he's playing that other position 510 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 2: right now at linebacker over Jalen Carlis. Carl Lies dealing 511 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 2: with a little bit of an injury this week as well. 512 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 2: I'm not sure if he's going to play on Thursday 513 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 2: against the Ravens, but he is earning this opportunity and 514 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 2: he is out playing some other linebackers at that position. 515 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 2: What what do you know about Cameron mcgroon in terms 516 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 2: of his playing style and and how viable is he 517 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 2: to have a big role within this defense. 518 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, I think he's taken advantage of 519 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 3: a totally new scheme, a new set of coaches. You know, 520 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 3: Lou has mentioned in press conferences there are no sacred cows. 521 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 3: You know, we're going to coach all of them hard 522 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 3: than whoever the best guys are and who produces are 523 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 3: going to play in. I don't think it's any disrespect 524 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 3: to Aluvi or Carlisles because we saw flashes with those guys. 525 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 3: Both of them tended to be ball magnets when they 526 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 3: were in there. But they're only snapshots. That's that's all. 527 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 3: There's no way that you could say and label you 528 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 3: know these guys have These guys are proven NFL guys, 529 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 3: so you know there are there's a lot of competition. 530 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 3: And the two guys to me that have really stood 531 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 3: out in practice in playmaking is mcgrone obviously and Bacci. Now. 532 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 3: Mcgrone is a very very good athlete, you know who 533 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 3: we know as a special teams guy. You know, he's 534 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 3: he's looked good in space. Uh you know, he's knockball down, 535 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 3: he's tip balls, he's got interceptions. Bachi has some advantages 536 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 3: because he really knows the system. He's played significant snaps 537 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 3: for Lou at Cincinnati. Also outstanding a special teams guy. 538 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 3: So I think what's happened. Is it's just you know, 539 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 3: based this is based on now performance, it's you know, 540 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 3: based on now. Jaki is another guy that's had some 541 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 3: pretty good snaps in there. So but mcgrone and and 542 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 3: and and Boci have really stepped up, you know in 543 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 3: terms of when you just evaluate performance day in and 544 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 3: day out. They're ahead. That doesn't mean they'll stay ahead 545 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 3: because you know, I think a louvi in Carlis have 546 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 3: a lot to offer. But you know, this is I 547 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 3: think this is really a tight competition all the way. 548 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 2: I want to talk about the secondary before we break here, Nick, 549 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 2: I mean, you look at it now, the depth here, 550 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 2: Brent's Jalen Jones. They're still dealing with hamstring injuries. Charvarius 551 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 2: Ward has dealt with tightness and his legs recently, although 552 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 2: he did practice on Tuesday. But all of that combined 553 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 2: has forced the Colts to make a couple of roster 554 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 2: moves at that position. Trey Herndon was signed, Duke Shelley 555 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 2: is here, Chris Lamons was brought in. He was with 556 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 2: the Colts last year as well. All of those moves 557 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 2: in the last couple of days, and then Justin Waally 558 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 2: banged up his knee a little bit yesterday in practice. 559 00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 2: I'm not sure if he's going to play against the Ravens. 560 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 2: That would be really unfortunate just because he's a rookie. 561 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 2: You want to see what he can do on a 562 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: game field, albeit a preseason game field. But how are 563 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 2: those injuries impacting this race at corner so far? And 564 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 2: is it becoming more and more clear that justin Wally 565 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 2: when fully right, he's got a really good track at 566 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 2: starting at corner this season as a rookie. 567 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 3: Oh my god, you know I liked him. I liked him, 568 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:10,719 Speaker 3: Chris liked him. They invested the third round pick. People 569 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 3: you know, said it was a controversial pick. All he's 570 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 3: done is come in here and validated that tick. I 571 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 3: mean he he has been outstanding from day one, from 572 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 3: rookie Mini Caamp to miniicamp. You know, he's been in 573 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 3: that starting lineup every day. I was really I hope 574 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 3: that that injury is not going to set him back 575 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 3: because as a rookie you still want to have every 576 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 3: snap you can get to get ready. I mean that 577 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 3: secondary with him, you know, as really the fifth guy 578 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 3: really looks improved to me. I mean, you've got Ward 579 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 3: bydam who are top tier players in the league wards, 580 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 3: you know, right in the elite level, Kenny is a 581 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 3: top tier nickel Cross is becoming a top tier safety. 582 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 3: So you've got four guys right there, you know, the 583 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 3: talent wise a top tier and then if you get 584 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,719 Speaker 3: Wally and they're playing like he can play, that is 585 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 3: really a good unit. And the sad thing for me 586 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,479 Speaker 3: is the guy that was really balling it was Jalen Jones. 587 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 3: I thought Jones was off to a great start and 588 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 3: if he was going to be the fourth corner when 589 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 3: they go dime, you know, I was going to live 590 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 3: with that. And so you know what it does is 591 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 3: it brings just a tough guy who played pretty well 592 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 3: till the very end last year, and that's Womack. I mean, 593 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 3: you know, if you have to play a game this afternoon, 594 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 3: Womack comes back as your third starter, was you know, 595 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 3: as your third corner, which is not the end of 596 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 3: the world, because he was kind of the least of 597 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 3: our worries last year, to be honest with you, until 598 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 3: the very end when he had some slip pups. But again, 599 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 3: it's really important to get those all those guys healthy. 600 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 3: You can never have enough corners. It's just it's amazing 601 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,239 Speaker 3: how when you get injuries you seem to get them 602 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 3: all in the same spot, no doubt, and it's really amazing. 603 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 3: It's just depleted the corner position. But again, you know, 604 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,479 Speaker 3: the big key to I think there's Wally Hopefully, whatever 605 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 3: it is with Wally, it's something that he can get 606 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 3: too Quickie. I mean, Saturday night is not a big issue, 607 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 3: but you know you certainly don't want him to miss 608 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 3: much time. 609 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 2: All right, save these for your memory bank because we'll 610 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 2: get into them next week as training camp progresses and 611 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 2: we'll have a preseason game under our belt as well. 612 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 2: We're also going to preview what we're going to see 613 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 2: in a joint practice setting with the Green Bay Packers 614 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 2: coming up next Thursday. But I do want to talk 615 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 2: to you about the kicking battle next week. You know, 616 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 2: second year kicker Spencer Schrader, undrafted rookie Mannix Trahillo are 617 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 2: battling it out. Also want to talk to you about 618 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 2: undrafted rookies, you know, some of those young guys you 619 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 2: have that crop who's catching your eyes so far there. 620 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 2: But as we wrap up here right here, right now, Rick, 621 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 2: what's gonna make Thursday night a successful one for the Colts. 622 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 2: Preseason game number one, What do you want to see 623 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 2: from the team? What do you want to see from 624 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 2: the starters? You have a specific grating system for the preseason, 625 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 2: so go ahead and lay that out for us and 626 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 2: dictate what's going to make it a successful night of 627 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 2: the Colts regardless of the score. 628 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've always coached like two games within the game. Okay, 629 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 3: when you play a preseason game, the first game obviously 630 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 3: is the most important game. You know, that's when your 631 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 3: starters and key top guys, key first guys in are 632 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 3: in the ballgame. And in that sense, you know, what 633 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 3: I want to see in the opener is I want 634 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 3: to see clean game. You know, you know I want 635 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 3: to see don't turn it over. I was really happy 636 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 3: yesterday we didn't have a lot of big players on offense, 637 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 3: but we didn't turn it over as well. Obviously this 638 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 3: year we want to see quarterback efficiency, defense, eliminate those 639 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 3: big plays and show us that you're going to be 640 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 3: a better tackling team. That's what That's what I'm looking for. 641 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 3: And with my starters, with my first groups, and like 642 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 3: I say, that first guy in type of situation. I 643 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 3: want to win that part of it. I you know, 644 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 3: you've gotten all the reps regardless of who you play 645 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 3: in that first quarter. Hopefully we do play the Ravens. 646 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 3: I always wanted to play them at their best. Is 647 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 3: that you want to go out and you're going to 648 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 3: win that. Now they're not going to play Lamar, but 649 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 3: they still have a really good team around them. So 650 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 3: you know, I expect to win from my top guys, 651 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 3: and I always put pressure on them. This is you know, 652 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 3: don't don't look at this as preseason. You go out 653 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 3: and win your part because you know, in about a 654 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 3: month we're playing for real. And then what my second game. 655 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 3: I always wanted my young kids like, keep it simple, 656 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 3: let them play. And what I always wanted to see 657 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 3: was and I would tell them to show us why 658 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 3: you're here. Okay, you were drafted or we brought you 659 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 3: in as a free agent or as an undrafted free 660 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 3: agent because you have certain skill sets that we really 661 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 3: like and we feel like you could fit. And so 662 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 3: what I want to see is I want you to 663 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 3: flash that talent, you know, you know, if it's getting 664 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 3: I want to see him kick and run, you know, 665 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 3: you know, a roller flasted yesterday with interceptions. You know, 666 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 3: it's the new guys. You want to see them flash, 667 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 3: you know, you know, you know, make a play. I 668 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 3: don't expect them to be perfect. They're gonna make mistakes, 669 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 3: you know. And I'm not concerned with the scoreboard. And 670 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 3: as you said, you know, I'm glad you alluded to 671 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 3: it because I started this when I was a coach. 672 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 3: I always wanted to say, how can I really evaluate 673 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 3: a preseason game because the scores are meaningless. I mean, 674 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 3: nobody will ever remember them. If you win because you 675 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 3: came from behind with you know, third stringers that aren't 676 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 3: going to be in the game, and you had a 677 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 3: great fourth quarter, you know you can you can put 678 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 3: that the refs because it's not going to matter. And 679 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 3: so what I've always done has had came up with 680 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 3: a little scoring system that I think is pretty accurate, 681 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 3: and I call it the realistic score, you know, the 682 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 3: real score in terms of evaluating your team. And what 683 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 3: I do is I give you points per quarter. The 684 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 3: old World Hockey League used to do this. I give 685 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 3: you seven points if you win the first quarter. If 686 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 3: it's tied, then it's seven to seven, then I give 687 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 3: you three points for who wins the second quarter, and 688 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 3: then two points for the third quarter, in one point 689 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 3: for the fourth quarter. And so what you're doing there 690 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,479 Speaker 3: is you're weighing what your team really is good versus good, 691 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 3: and so if you don't win the first quarter, you 692 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 3: can't really win the game if you follow what I'm saying. 693 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 3: And that's why it's seven three, two one in the 694 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 3: in the in the bottom three quarters only adds up 695 00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 3: to six. So Corre, you know, it puts a real premium. 696 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 3: But I think if you follow that through the preseason, 697 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 3: you're gonna have a much better view of what your 698 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 3: team really is. 699 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 1: Well said right there. 700 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,760 Speaker 2: We will follow that formula coming up tomorrow night against 701 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens. See what the realistic score from Rick 702 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 2: van Turry, what that ends up being, that is Rick 703 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 2: vent Turry rights there, and that's going to do it 704 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 2: for this week's edition here of Inside Football, recapping training 705 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 2: camp to this point, the joint practice with the Ravens. 706 00:35:58,320 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: Rick, we miss you. 707 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 2: Here on the road, There's no doubt about it, man, 708 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 2: but it's great to talk to you as always, no 709 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:03,480 Speaker 2: matter the setting. 710 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 3: Here. 711 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 2: Have a great rest of your week and we'll talk 712 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 2: to you over the weekend and recap what we see 713 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 2: on Thursday night here in this preseason opener. 714 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and you and I, You and I are going 715 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 3: to have a great season analyzing this team and talking 716 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 3: about this team both in games and during the weekend. 717 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 3: So I'm really excited about that. 718 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,959 Speaker 1: No doubt about that. The train keeps on rolling. 719 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 3: Man. 720 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 2: We're going to tap into that brain of yours each 721 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 2: and every Wednesday here on the podcast that is the 722 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 2: great Rick Van Turrey. And reminder, in terms of programming 723 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 2: for game day, Thursday's game starts at seven. You can 724 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 2: watch it locally television wise in Indianapolis, Fox fifty nine 725 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 2: and the NFL Network has it as well. And then 726 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 2: on radio, our coverage is going to start at four 727 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 2: o'clock Eastern time the Colts pregame huddle on our flagship 728 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 2: station ninety three five one oh seven five the Fan. 729 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 2: Then at six pm we bring you countdown to kickoff 730 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 2: on the fan also ninety seven to one Hank FM 731 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 2: and Indy and all over the Colts Radio networked and 732 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 2: at seven pm it's Colts and Ravens preseason opener for 733 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,440 Speaker 2: both teams. Looking for a good showing there, especially in 734 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 2: the first quarter. Like Rick Ventury laid out, hope you 735 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 2: can watch, Hope you can listen on Thursday night. If not, 736 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 2: we'll have a full recap of everything you missed right 737 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 2: here on colts dot com and the Colts podcast channel. 738 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:18,920 Speaker 1: I'm Matt Taylor for Rick Ventury. 739 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to Inside Football everybody, and we will 740 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 2: talk to you next week. 741 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: You're on the podcast. So long