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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 2: Welcome in Monday edition, Clay Travis buck Sexton Show Hoop.

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Speaker 2: All of you had fabulous weekends. We are here to

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Speaker 2: help make your Monday a little bit better than it

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Speaker 2: Otherwise might have been loads of stories to dive into

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Speaker 2: Trump's big win in South Carolina, as we anticipated, he

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Speaker 2: wins by twenty plus. Nicky Haley even seems to admit

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Speaker 2: that she is done. There will be a primary tomorrow

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Speaker 2: in Michigan as the beatdowns are likely to continue rolling

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Speaker 2: into Super Tuesday, eight days from now, when Trump effectively

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Speaker 2: will nearly officially take over as the Republican nominee for

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. We'll talk about Nicki Haley's strategy and

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Speaker 2: why she's being governed and it seems in many cases

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Speaker 2: advised by imbeciles.

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Speaker 3: All that still to come.

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Speaker 2: Also, Hunter Biden now is the hero of an axio

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Speaker 2: story as he fights to not snort cocaine or smoke crack.

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Speaker 2: That is the new pathway of Hunter Biden's redemption story.

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Speaker 2: But we began with what is an awful story from

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Speaker 2: Georgia and one that I think is crystallizing the issues

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Speaker 2: on the border to such an extent that Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: is now traveling to the border for just the second time,

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Speaker 2: I believe, of his presidency. On Thursday, there will be

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Speaker 2: dueling presidential twenty twenty four primary campaign rallies, effectively events.

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump is going to be down at the border

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Speaker 2: and Joe Biden is going to be down at the border,

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Speaker 2: both in Texas. And I just want to share some

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Speaker 2: of the backstory here for those of you who may

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Speaker 2: not have been paying a lot of attention over the

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Speaker 2: weekend or the past few days. Lake and Riley and

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Speaker 2: there by the way is a fabulous story up at

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Speaker 2: OutKick by Mary Catherine Ham who was a University of

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Speaker 2: Georgia undergrad who used to run along this lake off campus.

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Speaker 2: And there probably are a lot of you who are

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Speaker 2: former University of Georgia undergrads that are listening to us

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Speaker 2: all over the country who also used to run around

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Speaker 2: in that area near where the intramural fields are at

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Speaker 2: the University of Georgia. Twenty two year old student who

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Speaker 2: was soon to become a nurse, and she was brutally

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Speaker 2: murdered allegedly by an illegal immigrant who had already been

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Speaker 2: twice arrested in this country, even over and above his

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Speaker 2: initial arrest that occurred when he illegally entered the country Venezuelan.

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Speaker 2: I believe he is twenty six years old Buck. But

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Speaker 2: for many people out there, this story of what appears

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Speaker 2: to be a completely random act of violence with Lake

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Speaker 2: and Riley as the victim. Her Instagram profile page Buck

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Speaker 2: is still public, or at least it was yesterday afternoon.

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Speaker 2: I went and looked at some of the pictures just

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Speaker 2: to familiarize myself in some way with her. She was

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Speaker 2: a huge University of Georgia Bulldogs fan, as many undergrads

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Speaker 2: at the University of Georgia are. If you look at

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Speaker 2: this girl's picture, she could have been any one of

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Speaker 2: the tens of thousands of recent students at the University

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Speaker 2: of Georgia. It is, I think, a crystallizing moment of

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Speaker 2: tragedy that is hard for anyone who believes that our

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Speaker 2: this is Joe Biden, this is Alvin Bragg who previously

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Speaker 2: there was an arrest in New York City. This is

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Speaker 2: everything we've been saying is happening, crystallized into one story.

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Speaker 4: I have the ICE record on this individual. So on

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Speaker 4: the fourteenth of September twenty twenty three, he was arrested

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Speaker 4: by the NYPD charged with acting in a manner to

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Speaker 4: injure a child less than seventeen and motor vehicle license violation.

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Speaker 4: He was released by the NYPD before a detainer could

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Speaker 4: be issued. Now, I want everyone to understand that this

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Speaker 4: is sanctuary jurisdiction policy, that they let them out as

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Speaker 4: quickly as they can, and they will not coordinate with ICE.

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Speaker 4: They could say, hey, ICE, we have somebody, do you

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Speaker 3: But they don't do that.

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Speaker 4: Instead, you have to play catch up all the time

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Speaker 4: if you're actually trying to run federal Immigration enforcement because

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Speaker 4: NYP I mean New York rather in the NYPD that

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Speaker 4: operates in at are sanctuary jurisdictions. On February twenty third,

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, in Atlanta, he was pursued by University

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Speaker 4: of Georgia police, charged with murder and other crimes, and

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Speaker 4: then a was lodged. Once he was charged with murder,

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Speaker 4: There's also some reporting out there Clay that there was

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Speaker 4: another crime that he had been arrested for. But nonetheless,

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Speaker 4: this is somebody who shouldn't be in the country at all,

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Speaker 4: has broken our laws in addition to being in the country.

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Speaker 4: You know how many of you listen to this have

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Speaker 4: been arrested for endangering a child under seventeen. Right, This

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Speaker 4: is not like he got a parking ticket. And this

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Speaker 4: is policy. The policy is they don't want to help

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Speaker 4: get rid of criminal, illegal aliens, and that means that

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Speaker 4: it means that terrible things happen that should not happen

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Speaker 4: because our government refuses to enforce the law. And this

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Speaker 4: is a decision that is made by Democrats. They think

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Speaker 4: it is more important to placate the far left open

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Speaker 4: border's base than it is to keep people safe, and

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Speaker 4: they want you to obey all the laws. I mean,

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Speaker 4: think about the Clay the absurd, really farcical world we

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Speaker 4: live in now where Trump is facing a four hundred

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Speaker 4: million dollar fine effectively and a combined I don't even

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Speaker 4: know ninety something years in prison over four different criminal cases.

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Speaker 4: And we're supposed to take the justice system seriously. But

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Speaker 4: when someone's in the country illegally and then breaks the

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Speaker 4: And then finally when he murders somebody, then we're told

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Speaker 4: actually deport him. You know, this is it's enraging. And

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Speaker 4: then you see how the you see how some of

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Speaker 4: the legacy media was covering this Clay. You see this

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Speaker 4: one from the Associated Press. Yeah, this is an AP headline. Okay,

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Speaker 4: this is exactly the case that Clay was just laying

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Speaker 4: out talking about the killing of a nursing student out

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Speaker 4: for a run. Highlights the fears of solo female athletes.

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Speaker 4: That's how the Associated Press wants you to think about this.

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Speaker 4: This does show you that illegals who are criminals aren't

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Speaker 4: being deported because Democrats want to change the demographics of

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Speaker 4: America so they can have an authoritarian, one party state. No,

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Speaker 4: this is about women having anxiety from jogging. That's the

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Speaker 4: story they want to tell.

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Speaker 2: Atlanta Journal Constitution, building on that buck, the paper that

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Speaker 2: primarily covers that region, said that the murderer was an

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Speaker 2: Athens resident. They didn't define him in their reporting as

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Speaker 2: an illegal immigrant.

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Speaker 3: They said he was an Athens resident.

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Speaker 2: And let me say this, Athens is a sanctuary city

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Speaker 2: and so for everybody out there who has kids at

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Speaker 2: the University of Georgia dreaming of going to the University

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Speaker 2: of Georgia. It's a fabulous state university. And as many

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Speaker 2: I think that Donald Trump should go to Athens, Georgia.

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Speaker 2: We know that Atlanta is a is a battleground and

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Speaker 2: they're trying to put him in prison. And you have

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Speaker 2: the Fanny Wade Fanny Willis Nathan Wade ridiculousness that's.

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Speaker 3: Going on there.

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Speaker 2: Look at what Georgia has focused on. They're not focused

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Speaker 2: trying to manufacture crimes against Donald Trump. I would advise

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Speaker 2: the Trump campaign, to the extent that they are listening

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Speaker 2: right now, go to Athens, go to the State of Georgia.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what Lake and Riley's family. I know

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Speaker 2: they issued a statement. I saw it on a Fox News.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that they are politically engaged at all,

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Speaker 2: but I can only I hate to even have to

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Speaker 2: have these conversations Buck, because it's so hard, I know,

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Speaker 2: for parents out there to even think about your child

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Speaker 2: violence from someone who should have never been on American streets.

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Speaker 2: And we see this happen not only with illegal immigrants,

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Speaker 2: The average arrested murder has been arrested eleven times before

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Speaker 2: they're arrested for a murder eleven times. I bet there

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Speaker 2: isn't buck a single person listening to this program right

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Speaker 2: I've seen a lot of people tweeting about this, and

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Speaker 2: I don't It's obviously a different situation. But the fact

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Speaker 2: the left in media won't even cover Lake and Riley

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Speaker 2: is I think a perfect distillation of how narrative Trump's

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Speaker 4: Well, just as the Israel Hamas issue after October seventh,

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Speaker 4: the bloodthirsty Hamas psychopaths, because, even though we've discussed many

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Speaker 4: essentially a race issue. Now, what complicates that in a

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Speaker 4: It really is just about people not coming here who

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Speaker 4: Sweden is allowed to show up. Ye, it's not the argument.

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Speaker 4: The argument is no one should be able to come

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Speaker 4: view it as white supremacy. To argue in favor of

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Speaker 4: a truly secure border and rule of law and immigration,

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Speaker 4: and that's why with issues like this, and this is

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Speaker 4: why bring it into this killing of this young woman

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Speaker 4: in Georgia, they do everything they can to cover the

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Speaker 4: perfunctory a manner as possible to say things like Athens

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Speaker 3: That's what happened.

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Speaker 2: And they'll also Buck try to say, oh, immediately they're

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Speaker 2: We've been talking about South Carolina primary results from Saturday,

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that some more, but we began the

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Speaker 3: She also writes that OutKick she's kind of everywhere.

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Speaker 2: She has a really I think powerful piece up at

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Speaker 5: A more emotional for me because I look at her.

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Speaker 5: That does not mean every immigrant is likely to commit

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Speaker 2: Mary Catherine, I think you have four kids. If I'm

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Speaker 5: come on down and work. How is that of your situation?

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Speaker 5: And it puts all these students in a dangerous position

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Speaker 5: who parents have trusted, by the way, paying a lot

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Speaker 5: of money for it. Yeah, into this university community. So like, yes,

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Speaker 5: you have a right to worry about criminal negligence on

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Speaker 5: the part of these people who seem to not care

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Speaker 5: at all about Americans versus another class of non citizens.

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Speaker 5: That is a real thing. You see it in action

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Speaker 5: all the time, and you're right to be mad about it,

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Speaker 5: and to be worried about your kids, like I've worried

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Speaker 5: about a lot of threats to them, right, I want

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Speaker 5: to be rational all about it. But the thing about

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Speaker 5: the immigration crisis and the crisis on the border is

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Speaker 5: that the volume has become so great the sheer numbers,

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Speaker 5: that the likelihood of bad things happen naturally goes up, right, Like,

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Speaker 5: you just can't let in unvetted millions and millions and millions,

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Speaker 5: ten thousand per day at some times and think that

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Speaker 5: you're not bringing in some folks who will commit these

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Speaker 5: types of crimes, and to be worried about that, that

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Speaker 5: is the right thing to do, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, Mary Catherine, No other developed country has these same

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Speaker 4: kinds of policies everyone else, at least at some level.

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Speaker 4: I know Europe has waves of migration to and illegal

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Speaker 4: migration going on, but that cities would be thwarting the

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Speaker 4: will of the federal government, federal law enforcement as a

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Speaker 4: part of this mean I think that the whole sanctuary

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Speaker 4: jurisdiction mess. It's lawless. For one thing. I mean, you

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Speaker 4: wouldn't have this if people were doing drug trafficking, but

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Speaker 4: what is effectively a form of human trafficking. Local law

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Speaker 4: enforcement isn't able to get involved because you're dealing with illegals.

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Speaker 4: We saw this in New York City. The NYPD had

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Speaker 4: this guy and they released him before the detained request

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Speaker 4: could come in. And this is not a bug, this

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Speaker 4: is a feature. They do this intentionally. They let them

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Speaker 4: out as quickly as they can so that ice can't

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Speaker 4: get there in time to try to begin a procedure

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Speaker 4: to remove them from the country. So, I mean it's crazy, right.

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Speaker 4: It's not just people say, oh, the system is failing. No,

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Speaker 4: people are actively being told they should subvert the system.

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Speaker 4: I mean Americans are subverting this law enforcement subverting the system.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 5: No, we have incentivized lawlessness. And in the places where

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Speaker 5: you incentivize lawlessness, New York is one of them, ATMs

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Speaker 5: Clark County is one of them, you end up with

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Speaker 5: more lawlessness because the people who are interested in breaking

482
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Speaker 5: the law are very aware that they don't get prosecuted.

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Speaker 5: They're very aware that they'll be let go right, so

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Speaker 5: they understand the game and they're happy to take advantage

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Speaker 5: of it. Meanwhile, law abiding citizens are the ones who

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Speaker 5: often pay the price. Is it's so shameful, it's so irresponsible.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I'm cynical about government in general, but

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Speaker 5: protecting your citizens is the number one thing you're supposed

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Speaker 5: to do, and they're just taking a pass on it

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Speaker 5: completely and in fact making it harder.

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Speaker 3: To the last in your city. Last question for you,

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Speaker 3: Mary Catherine.

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Speaker 2: Some people would say, okay, violence can happen anywhere to anybody.

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Speaker 2: Why is this a story? Why is this being turned

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Speaker 2: into a political, uh politically connected story?

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Speaker 3: How would you respond?

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Speaker 2: And I'm just kind of curious that building on that,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you're on a lot of text chains with

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Speaker 2: Georgia grads and Georgia connected people, that is the University

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Speaker 2: of Georgia. What is the general consensus among the bulldog

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Speaker 2: nation at this point?

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Speaker 5: You know, I think people react emotionally to stories, to

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Speaker 5: human stories. So I think, look, sometimes things do become

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Speaker 5: lightning rise and it becomes a political story and you

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Speaker 5: go like, okay, well why it's so much emphasis on

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Speaker 5: this one story? Sometimes it's media complicity. In this case,

507
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Speaker 5: it's not because they don't really want to talk about this.

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Speaker 5: This one is responding to the fact that people are

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Speaker 5: emotional about this. Among Georgia Graves, I would say that

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Speaker 5: even people who are not right of center, left of center,

511
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Speaker 5: central center right folks have been posting about it, of

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Speaker 5: course texting me about it, so I think it has

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Speaker 5: more reach. A guy on Twitter, I guess the troll

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Speaker 5: the other day said to me, Hey, a lot of

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Speaker 5: citizens kill people too, so are you scared of them?

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Speaker 5: And I was like, well, I'm generally scared of all murders, yes,

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Speaker 5: But also here's the point, Like, the question is, at

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Speaker 5: what point is violent crime preventable? And with every violent

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Speaker 5: crime perpetrated by somebody who's in the country illegally, it

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Speaker 5: could have been prevented if the law had been enforced

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Speaker 5: at that first point, it could have been prevented the

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Speaker 5: second time they were arrested, the third time they were arrested. Right,

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Speaker 5: those things matter, and we should actually be trying to

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Speaker 5: prevent these random crimes from happening.

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Speaker 3: Outstanding stuff.

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Speaker 2: As always, Mary Catherine Ham's got a great story up

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Speaker 2: at out Kick. You can check it out thanks for

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Speaker 2: the good work and I'm sure we'll talk to you

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Speaker 2: again soon.

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Speaker 3: Mary Kathryn, thank you very much.

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Speaker 2: Guys, she is I mean that piece I think will

532
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Speaker 2: connect with a lot of moms and dads out there.

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Speaker 2: And you know, just the reason I think Lincoln Riley

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Speaker 2: is connecting with so many people is because you can

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Speaker 2: go look at her Instagram page.

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Speaker 3: It's still public buck.

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Speaker 2: And she is as close to what I would say

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Speaker 2: is the average girl who is attending an SEC school

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Speaker 2: as can exist. And I'm saying that in a very

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Speaker 2: positive way. This could have been your granddaughter, This could

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Speaker 2: have been your daughter. This has to be rectified. And

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Speaker 2: Biden's going to the border on Thursday. It's amazing how

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Speaker 2: often he comments on stories that are out there that

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Speaker 2: they want to make into a narrative and set any

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Speaker 2: thing about this at all.

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Speaker 3: In my opinion, he's got blood on his hands. IRS.

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Speaker 2: Scams on the rise. This is the time of year

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Speaker 2: when it happened. Cyber thieves the file online tax returns

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Speaker 2: get the tax refund that's in your name, leaving you

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Speaker 2: to contend with the IRS. Some scammers go to a

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Speaker 2: They'll claim there with the IRS, just need an information

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Speaker 2: I think we also have I didn't even realize we

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Speaker 4: Absolutely. Now let's turn our attention here to the brazenness

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Speaker 4: with which Gavin Newsom, who is Clay, is saying he's

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Speaker 4: this was amazing. He's out there doing his thing, telling

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Speaker 4: everybody that Biden has a quote extraordinary.

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Speaker 3: Record as president. Play it.

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Speaker 7: I think he's doing everything he needs to do. I mean,

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Speaker 7: he's got an extraordinary record. He's doing everything he needs

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Speaker 7: to do on Ukraine at the moment, he's doing everything

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Speaker 7: he needs to do to reconcile and wrestle some common

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Speaker 7: sense as it relates to a bipartisan approach to address

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Speaker 7: the issue of the border, where the Republicans couldn't.

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Speaker 3: Take yes for an answer. He is leading, but here's

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Speaker 3: my point.

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Speaker 7: It's because of his age that he's been so successful.

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Speaker 7: So the opportunity to express that for four more years,

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Speaker 7: what a gift it is for the American people. And

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Speaker 7: as a Democrat, what did a gift for me to

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Speaker 3: Clay, you almost have to respect it. Everyone knows.

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Speaker 4: Everyone knows Biden is too old and is in decline,

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Speaker 4: and there's probably some dementia there.

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Speaker 3: Who knows what stage it's in.

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Speaker 4: Everybody knows this, and Gavin Newsom is out there saying

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Speaker 4: Biden's a great president with an extraordinary record because of

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Speaker 4: his age, this he gets the prize. I mean, I

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Speaker 4: don't know what to say. The gas lighting has reached

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Speaker 4: the level that is truly astonishing, and you almost have.

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Speaker 3: To respect it, Joe.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Gavin Newsom Buck could see a eight hundred

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Speaker 3: So amazing in it.

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Speaker 2: That's basically the equivalent of what Gavin Newsom is arguing

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Speaker 2: right now. You can say, and look, I disagree with

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Speaker 2: the argument, but you can say Trump is going to

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Speaker 2: be such an awful president that even Joe Biden in

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Speaker 2: his diminished state is a better option than Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: Again, I disagree with that argument.

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Speaker 2: That would be a somewhat fair version of why a

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Speaker 2: Democrat should argue for Joe Biden to be selected. Joe Biden,

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Speaker 2: because of his age, has an intellectual capacity that is

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Speaker 2: unlike the other candidates, and therefore is undiminished in any

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Speaker 2: way and has to be the nominee.

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Speaker 3: Is an embarrassing.

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Speaker 2: Absurdity, much like the argument that an eight hundred pound

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Speaker 2: woman in a bikini looks amazing because of her weight.

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Speaker 2: On some level, this is Joe Scarborough. I don't even

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Speaker 2: have a gag reflex esque that you just will argue

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Speaker 2: anything to the point of just puking out absurdity.

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Speaker 4: I'm just here to tell everybody that this is going

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Speaker 4: to be what the Democrats are doing.

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Speaker 3: This is actually the plan. I know that we all

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Speaker 3: sit here and.

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Speaker 4: Go, oh my gosh. So they're going to tell you

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Speaker 4: that he's great. Here's the governor of Pennsylvania. This is

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Speaker 4: cut three. Josh Shapiro. He's out there saying Biden is

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Speaker 4: the nominee and it's great to be able to support

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Speaker 4: such a strong nominee.

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Speaker 8: Play three, Well, Joe Biden's going to be our nominee,

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Speaker 8: and I'm proud to support him. I'm proud to get

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Speaker 8: out there and talk about his record of achievement and

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Speaker 8: make sure I prosecute the case against Donald Trump and

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Speaker 8: share the clear contrast between the kind of chaos Donald

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Speaker 8: Trump would bring and the way President Biden is there

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Speaker 8: to protect our freedom and expand it. When folks come

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Speaker 8: over to me and say nice things, look, I'm just

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Speaker 8: glad they're paying attention to our work in Pennsylvania. The

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Speaker 8: way we've cut taxes and at the same time invested

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Speaker 8: historic ammounts in public education and in public safety, the

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Speaker 8: way we're growing our economy. I'm glad folks are taking

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Speaker 8: note of what we're doing in Pennsylvania. And I'm proud

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Speaker 8: to be out there supporting Joe.

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Speaker 4: Biden, Pennsylvania Governor. Proud to support Joe Biden, the great

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Speaker 4: nominee for the party. We're going to have to take

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Speaker 4: a lot of showers when we listen to this stuff

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Speaker 4: between now and election day, Clay, but it's already starting.

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Speaker 4: They are just going to lean in to the most

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Speaker 4: absurd lies because I think it'll work.

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Speaker 2: At least that one is, Hey, he's on my team

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Speaker 2: and I'm going to defend him. It's not quite as

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Speaker 2: obsequious as what we just saw from Gavin.

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Speaker 4: New Gavin Newsom said he's basically a superstar because he's

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Speaker 4: so old and has dimensions.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's insane.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And this is also I would say, in general,

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Speaker 2: why so many people hate politicians, right, I mean because

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Speaker 2: if you were just an honest Democrat. I just saw

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Speaker 2: where there's a video that's just now starting to circulate.

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Speaker 2: They're having a competitive primary in Maryland to see whether

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Speaker 2: or not see who's going to be the nominee for

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Speaker 2: the Democrat Party. They're going to run against Larry Hogan,

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Speaker 2: the former very popular Republican governor of Maryland, and one

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Speaker 2: of those Democrat candidates was caught on tape saying I

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Speaker 2: wish Joe Biden was ten years younger. That's a very

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Speaker 2: legitimate perspective to have if you're a Democrat. If Gavin

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Speaker 2: Newsom came out and said I'm going to vote for

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden because I think he's a better option than Trump,

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Speaker 2: but I really wish he was ten years younger, I

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Speaker 2: would say, you know what, I don't agree with Gavin

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Speaker 2: Newsom's perspective, but.

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Speaker 3: That's at least somewhat honest.

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Speaker 2: I think most Americans will accept difference of opinion.

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Speaker 3: When they see you go.

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Speaker 2: Over the top and there is no logical connection to

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Speaker 2: it at all, is when I think they rebel. And

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Speaker 2: this is why I think Buck. I think there's just

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Speaker 2: a great deal of distrust after COVID I saw the data.

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Speaker 2: The younger you are, the more likely you are to

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Speaker 2: be unaffil unaffiliated with either political party. And I think

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Speaker 2: it's because there's just that I would say the number

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Speaker 2: one characterization in America right now, regardless of political party,

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Speaker 2: is a lack of trust in institutions and people in

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Speaker 2: positions of power. And I think that leads to Trump

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Speaker 2: being popular with a lot of people out there that

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Speaker 2: are not engaged on a day to day basis on

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Speaker 2: the political process, but they just feel like everybody is

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Speaker 2: so corrupt and at least Donald Trump is a rich

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Speaker 2: enough guy that he's not trying to sell out to

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Speaker 2: make more money. We've talked about on this show. I

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Speaker 2: think it's important Trump's the only person to run for

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Speaker 2: president in our lives who's ended up with less money

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Speaker 2: than he had before he ran for president.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Bloomberg spent so much that he probably will

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Speaker 4: less money, but he wasn't.

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Speaker 2: Right like to end up in a position where you

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Speaker 2: are the president like Clinton is filthy rich now, Barack

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Speaker 2: Obama's filthy rich right now. I think George W. Bush

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Speaker 2: is doing pretty well for himself or is really rich.

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Speaker 2: Never president, but we.

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Speaker 4: Should be ashamed of that one just as a country,

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Speaker 4: as a culture, al.

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Speaker 3: Gore Al Gore is super filthy rich.

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Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton certainly has turned on the money spigot again.

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Speaker 2: Trump is the only person I can think of who

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Speaker 2: will have been a letted president and made the less

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Speaker 2: money than he would have if he had never run

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Speaker 2: for political office at all.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Nancy Pelosi is really rich, but you know,

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Speaker 4: she's a.

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Speaker 2: Impeccable time she's She's just like the Warren Buffett of

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Speaker 2: really good I mean, who knew all this time, Nancy

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Speaker 2: Pelosi was better than pretty much every major hedge fund

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Speaker 2: manager in the country who graduated, you know, from the

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Speaker 2: top of their class at Wharton and worked on Wall

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Speaker 2: Street for twenty years.

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Speaker 4: Nancy Pelosi more insightful with her stock picking than them.

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Speaker 4: It's remarkable Nancy had this superpower tucked away all those

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Speaker 4: Nancy just.

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Speaker 2: Make off Nvidia, which obviously has been on a tear

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Speaker 2: with AI. I think some staff looked this up. They

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Speaker 2: they shared her her. If you look at Nancy Pelosi's

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Speaker 2: historical stock picking profile and you compare it with the

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Speaker 2: most astute investors in all of America, Nancy Pelosi beats him.

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Speaker 4: It definitely would have been a smart move. I'm kind

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Speaker 4: of well, I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I wish she would tell me she was going to

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Speaker 3: trade in advance. I'll just this should be.

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Speaker 4: You know, there is something called the for Jim Kramer.

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Speaker 4: You all know Jim Kramer from CNBC. There's a reverse

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Speaker 4: Kramer fund or index or whatever, yeah, index where you

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Speaker 4: go opposite whatever Jim Kramer says, buy, you sell whatever

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Speaker 4: he says, sell you buy effectively. I don't think it's

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Speaker 4: actually done that well in recent years, to be fair

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Speaker 4: to Kramer, but there is one I would I would mirror.

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Speaker 3: Nancy Pelosi's rates.

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Speaker 4: If I were somebody who was, you know, out there

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Speaker 4: and able to do it, I would want to know

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Speaker 4: what Nancy's going heavy on. I would be I'd go

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Speaker 4: heavy on it. Too, because you know, somehow she went

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Speaker 4: from I know her husband is in business or something,

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Speaker 4: and I wonder if he ever gets any interesting information

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Speaker 4: from her. But she's worth hundreds of millions of dollars

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Speaker 4: now she's in the like one hundred hundred and fifty

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Speaker 4: million plus category at this point, which is uh yeah,

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Speaker 4: Nancy Pelosi, everybody, Oh Clay, I did want to throw

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Speaker 4: this in the mix before we move along here. Gavin

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Speaker 4: Newsom when asked, this is cut too, when asked about

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Speaker 4: jumping into the presidential race.

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Speaker 3: He's like, I just, I just you know, to side show.

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Speaker 3: He's not into it, folks, he's not into it. Play too.

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Speaker 3: Have you gotten any calls Governor?

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Speaker 7: It's all idle chat out, it's all around you know what.

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Speaker 3: That's a sideshow.

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Speaker 7: I think what Democrats need to do is worry less,

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Speaker 7: do more, continue to overperform as we have, continue to win.

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Speaker 3: Make the case.

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Speaker 7: Don't be shamed of four point one percent GDP over

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Speaker 7: the last two quarters. Don't be ashamed about the alliance

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Speaker 7: management of the Biden Harris administration. Don't be timid about

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Speaker 7: making the case for the record of this administration.

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Speaker 3: You're ruling it out one hundred percent. I wouldn't.

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Speaker 7: It's not even an interesting conversation.

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Speaker 3: Not even an interesting conversation, he says. Play hmmm, I'll

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Speaker 3: tell you my theory on this when we come back.

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Speaker 3: That's called the tease.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Nancy Pelosi's husband has made over one

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Speaker 2: point twenty five million in in Vidia stock in the

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Speaker 2: last three months with a I believe you bought options

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Speaker 2: in Nvidia and has made one point twenty five million

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Speaker 2: the last three months.

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Speaker 3: That sounds nice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a how many of you made one fort

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Speaker 2: a bad gig, Not a bad gig.

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Speaker 2: Welcome Back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Okay, Buck,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna hit you with some polling data that has

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Speaker 2: come out today.

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Speaker 3: We talked earlier about the fact that.

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Speaker 2: In general, the polling in Iowa, New Hampshire, and South

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Speaker 2: Carolina as a totality has been fairly accurate. And that's

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Speaker 2: even buck with the challenges of knowing that a lot

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Speaker 2: of Democrats and intos were potentially going to be crossing

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Speaker 2: over and voting for Nicky Hayley. So the real Clear

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Speaker 2: politics had Trump winning by twenty three nearly identical vote

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Speaker 2: share to what actually ends up happening.

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Speaker 3: That's the poll average.

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Speaker 2: There's a new poll out today, A couple of different

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Speaker 2: polls that I think are fascinating for a variety of levels,

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Speaker 2: and let me get your take on them. One the

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Speaker 2: Harvard Harris Pole, and I don't think anybody out there is, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, who really loves Donald Trump?

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Speaker 3: Harvard. The Harvard Harris poll.

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Speaker 2: Has Trump up six head to head on Joe Biden

875
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: seven or eight when third party candidates are included. Also

876
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 2: a poll out today from Maine, and I don't know

877
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: how many is it Mayners? I think it's Mayners. I

878
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: don't know how many Manors are out there listening to

879
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 2: us right now. I hope a lot of you, but

880
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: main breaks up. It's four electoral votes. Two go my

881
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 2: understanding is based on my research, to the winner of

882
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 2: the state, and then one goes to the winner of

883
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 2: each congressional district the state. Right now, according to this

884
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 2: poll that is out, Trump is up six the congressional districts.

885
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 2: One of them, Trump is up twenty twenty points according

886
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 2: to this poll, which would at minimum give Trump one

887
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 2: electoral vote from Maine. That's pretty significant, maybe given how

888
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 2: close to these things could end up being, so just

889
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 2: kind of.

890
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 3: Put that away.

891
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 2: But the thing that really stood out to me, Buck

892
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 2: is we talked about this earlier. The Biden team seems

893
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 2: to be building much of their argument for Joe Biden

894
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 2: on well, we're going to get a conviction before all

895
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 2: is said and done of Trump in one of these cases.

896
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 2: And there's been some conflicting polling on this. What I

897
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 2: thought was interesting is in this Harvard Harris poll, Trump

898
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 2: either maintained or grows in his lead now if he

899
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 2: were convicted of a felony that is now starting to

900
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 2: be one the possibility that Trump is benefiting from this

901
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 2: lawfair shenanigans from Democrats. But two, and what I think

902
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,400
Speaker 2: is more likely, and we've had this debate for a

903
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,839
Speaker 2: while discussion as there's been data coming out. I think

904
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 2: it's all kind of baked in because I think people

905
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 2: now understand Democrats hate Trump, they want to get him,

906
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 2: and it's not really going to move that much. But

907
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 2: the data from this Harvard Harris poll is now saying, yeah,

908
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 2: the whole lawfair business, even with convictions, isn't going to

909
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 2: move the opinions that much.

910
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 3: I at that.

911
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 4: Point you start to think that the Democrats have got

912
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 4: to be thinking there's something of something else up the sleeve,

913
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 4: or there's some other I'm not sure what it would

914
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:58,479
Speaker 4: be quite yet.

915
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 3: Maybe perception would shift on that over time. I do

916
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 3: think that there's so much noise.

917
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 4: You know, you saw it was about a week ago,

918
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 4: and I forget where it was, Axios, New York Times.

919
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 4: All that stuff's the same, the same people writing for

920
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 4: the same audience, but not at BuzzFeed or Vice quite

921
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:16,479
Speaker 4: as much.

922
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 3: Womp womp. But anyway, you.

923
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 4: Know, all the other places, the same audience for the

924
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 4: same uh you know, or same writers for the same

925
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 4: audience basically, And here's what I what I think is

926
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 4: the challenge for them. They wrote a piece about fatigue

927
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 4: of the resistance. Yeah, the fatigue of the resistance. It

928
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 4: is possible at some point that the mass hysteria around

929
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 4: Trump reaches that phase where all the lunatics who have

930
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 4: been shrieking their voices become hoarse and they're tired, and

931
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 4: it's time to go home to mommy, Like they can't

932
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 4: actually keep doing it the same at the same fever

933
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 4: pitch that they have.

934
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's really occurring, but.

935
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 4: I do think that they've thrown so much shit Trump

936
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,240
Speaker 4: at this point that it does start to feel like noise.

937
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 4: You know, if you're gonna think of it like a

938
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 4: court context, if you're going to if you charge someone

939
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 4: with murder, you're saying they're a murderer. If you charge

940
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 4: someone with thirty different statutes and none of them really

941
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 4: sound all that intimidating or serious, it sounds like you're

942
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 4: just running games and trying to destroy somebody, right, because

943
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 4: it all just gets mixed in together, and and I

944
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 4: think that the noise blocks out the signal and there

945
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 4: may be some effect with that. But again, the entrench

946
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 4: sides here, you know, we have the kind of political

947
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 4: equivalent of the Russia Ukraine War, Like it's not moving,

948
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 4: it's just two sides going at it and not really

949
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 4: very much change in territory or for those of your

950
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 4: first First World War buffs, it's a bit like trench

951
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 4: warfare in the original sense. We're not nothing. Seems to

952
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 4: be moving the needle very much right now, although the

953
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 4: needle has turned against Biden to be fair, in the

954
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 4: last year.

955
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 3: Buck think about this analogy. Tell me if you buy it.

956
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 2: Most people with COVID at some point they had a

957
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 2: breaking point, and for you and me, our breaking point

958
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 2: was like May of tril.

959
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 3: Like we were.

960
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 2: We were early breakers on the COVID universe. I had

961
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 2: this guy on my radio show. I was like, who

962
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 2: is this, Clay Travis who also hates the masks.

963
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 3: He is a sportsman fan. Let us talk.

964
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 2: So you and I were early on that. A lot

965
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 2: of you out there either were even some of you

966
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 2: were earlier than us. But gradually, I would say a

967
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: lot of you came around on masking two year olds

968
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:50,800
Speaker 2: made no sense, and you heard constantly those arguments being made,

969
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,760
Speaker 2: and what's happened. There's still those arguments being made. Rolling

970
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 2: Stone buck over the Freaking Weekend had a full article

971
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 2: about what in ninety five mask was the best one

972
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 2: for you to be wearing. I don't know if you

973
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 2: saw Taylor Rins with the Washington Post set down with

974
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 2: our friend from Libs of TikTok, and she wore a

975
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 2: mask outdoors to conduct the interview.

976
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 3: It's do we have the audio from the sit down

977
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 3: with her?

978
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 2: It's incredibly that maybe we could have Maybe we can

979
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 2: do that tomorrow on maybe we get high.

980
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 3: Oh no, we have it, we have it.

981
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,560
Speaker 4: You we have the audience's played, So we hire from

982
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 4: Libs of TikTok as a friend of ours. She's done

983
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 4: amazing work, and the ferocity with which the left and

984
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 4: the and the live media hates her is a testament

985
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,240
Speaker 4: to her efficacy. Like she manages to make the case

986
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 4: just by showing you what they say. Tila the Renz

987
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 4: has a big old and ninety five sitting outside. She

988
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 4: couldn't even get Fauci to say this makes sense, it

989
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 4: makes no sense.

990
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 6: We have We'll play that audience because I'm curious, what

991
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 6: are your thoughts on that cool ideology?

992
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 9: There were some mines over the past three years that

993
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 9: there were more illegals coming into our border than children

994
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 9: being born in the US. Does that not look like

995
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 9: they're trying to replace us.

996
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:11,439
Speaker 6: I guess I'm sort of imagination as a population melting pot.

997
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 6: Isn't that sort of what America was found out?

998
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 9: But they're they're actually bringing in more people than are

999
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 9: actually being more.

1000
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 6: So I guess if you it sounds like you sort

1001
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 6: of do ascribe to this theory of the great replacement?

1002
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 6: How did that?

1003
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 9: I just look at the thoughts and the numbers.

1004
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 6: Well, so, I mean, just let's give a corollary, right,

1005
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 6: A lot of Jewish people fled, you know, Europe came

1006
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 6: over here also as immigrants, and there's a lot of

1007
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 6: criticism towards Jewish people in those movements, in those far

1008
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 6: right movements. So I'm just wondering, as a Jewish woman,

1009
00:53:38,200 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 6: sort of how you feel about that and your role

1010
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,239
Speaker 6: in cultivating the fanbase that might think of you as

1011
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 6: an as a minority, an outsider.

1012
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 9: Not all cultures are equal.

1013
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 3: That's but so this is a conversation that's going on.

1014
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 2: We should get high on at some point, maybe this week,

1015
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 2: to talk about it, because my point on the analogy

1016
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,399
Speaker 2: I'm making here blocked ext Now let's do it.

1017
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 3: At some point.

1018
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 2: We got to a situation where even if they wouldn't

1019
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:11,280
Speaker 2: acknowledge it. Only five percent of American parents, I believe

1020
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 2: is the current number, have continued to get their kids.

1021
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 3: The latest booster.

1022
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 2: Ninety five percent of Americans nineteen out of twenty parents said,

1023
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 2: you know what, my kids are good. I don't need

1024
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,439
Speaker 2: to get them a COVID shot. Only forty percent ever

1025
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 2: got the COVID dition. I think it was forty percent

1026
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 2: ever got the COVID shot in the first place. So

1027
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 2: substantial majorities of parents who care about their kids more

1028
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 2: than anything said I don't think this is necessary. Because

1029
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 2: all of the COVID doom eventually became noise, and people

1030
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 2: went to Florida and they went to an amusement park

1031
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 2: and they thought, wait a minute, you know, like, what

1032
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,240
Speaker 2: am I doing in my life right now? I wonder

1033
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 2: whether Buck, the Trump is Hitler, the Trump is evil,

1034
00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 2: the Trump is going to destroy American democracy. Whether what

1035
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 2: they're really saying is it's not motivating or moving the

1036
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 2: numbers and you're seeing it, Buck, it's not happening on

1037
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 2: cn N or MSNBC's ratings. The overall news traffic has

1038
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 2: collapsed surrounding Trump. I think people are inured to it.

1039
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 4: You know, in psychotherapy psychology, they have something called immersion

1040
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 4: therapy as a way to get beyond your fears right

1041
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 4: fears and trauma traumatic experience. So you know, if you're

1042
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 4: terribly afraid of spiders, maybe you know, look, don't do

1043
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 4: this like this. You know, have a trained professional who

1044
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 4: is you're in a psychoanalyst. But I'm just saying it's

1045
00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 4: something like you're afraid of spiders. You start getting introduced

1046
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 4: to spiders a little bit, and eventually you got a big,

1047
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 4: you know, furry tarantula crawling up your arm like some

1048
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 4: of our audience who actually likes these things as pets,

1049
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 4: and you're not scared of you know, irrachnophobia disappears right

1050
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 4: or or it's lesson. It's not disappeared, but it's lessened.

1051
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 4: Maybe there's something of immersion therapy going on with some

1052
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 4: people here with If you call Trump hitler enough for

1053
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 4: so many years and really he just says funny thing

1054
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 4: shows up, you know, plays a lot of golf and

1055
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 4: like wants a booming economy and a secure border like it.

1056
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 3: You know, maybe after a while you realize he's not

1057
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 3: actually Hitler.

1058
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 4: You know, you've you've you've you've created the environment where

1059
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 4: people can no longer maintain that level of anxiety, so

1060
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 4: it naturally declines a little bit. But then again, maybe

1061
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 4: it's February of twenty twenty four, O Clay, and they're

1062
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 4: gonna turn the dial spinal tap style up to eleven.

1063
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 2: In about six months, I think they're gonna turn a

1064
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 2: dial up. I think a lot of people are tuned out,

1065
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 2: and that is my theory going in. And if that

1066
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 2: is true, I think by Memorial Day you're gonna see

1067
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 2: a Democrat panic, like when the Titanic hit the iceberg

1068
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 2: and everybody's trying to get on the lifeboat.

1069
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 3: I love you.

1070
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 4: I love your optimism and enthusiasm. I cannot share it

1071
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 4: because I just think that the world is a cruel

1072
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 4: and unforgiving place and the left is monstrous.

1073
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,399
Speaker 3: So I you know, but this is good.

1074
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 4: You're gonna have Clay telling you that the forces of

1075
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 4: good are going to triumph over evil. That you know,

1076
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 4: in the in the Battle of the Five Armies, Gandalf

1077
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 4: is gonna show up just in time with the Eagles

1078
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,799
Speaker 4: or whatever. And I'm here like no Soron always wins

1079
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 4: in the end, So it'll be okay, we'll figure it out.

1080
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 4: I just mixed my books. But you know it doesn't.

1081
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 4: I it's very very good analogy. And I'm laughing a

1082
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 4: little bit because over the weekend in my nerd out world,

1083
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 4: in addition to watching college basketball, which I'm gonna get

1084
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 4: to in a sect, Buck, did you watch extended version?

1085
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 4: I am obsessed now with the English royal family history

1086
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 4: I i am. I went on and I bought like

1087
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 4: five different Henry the Eighth books, like I am going

1088
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 4: all in on watching the extended Lord of the Rings version,

1089
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 4: which is available on Max now, which is it's like

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Speaker 4: a whole it's a whole new movie. It's another hour

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Speaker 4: and a half of content like per movie. It's crazy

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Speaker 4: how long these things.

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Speaker 2: I watched the movie called American Fiction, which is one

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Speaker 2: of the most interesting movies I've seen in some time.

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Speaker 4: I do have breaking news, and since we are a

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Speaker 4: new show, can I tell you what the breaking news

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Speaker 4: is and then we can handle weekme back? Yeah, what's

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Speaker 4: that news? In the Trump criminal case in Manhattan, Bragg

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Speaker 4: is asking for a gag order on Trump before the trial. Well,

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Speaker 4: of course he is just just came down. They can't

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Speaker 4: talk about it. Can prosecute can't talk about it. We'll

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Speaker 4: discuss Uh, that's gonna be interesting.

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Speaker 3: In the meantime. I just mentioned.

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Speaker 2: I watched college basketball over the weekend. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: gave you three picks on Saturday. If you happen to

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Speaker 2: be on Twitter, I said, Kentucky is going to run Alabama.

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Speaker 3: They did a lot of points are going to be scored.

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Speaker 2: And I said Tennessee was going to take care of Texas,

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Speaker 2: saying them I went three and oh on those picks.

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Speaker 2: This week, as we get closer to March Madness, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to give you some picks on Prize Picks, and

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