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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan and

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Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing and we are gonna get you

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Speaker 1: ready for the Ravens game against the Minnesota Vikings Sunday

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Speaker 1: afternoon at US Banks Stadium. The Ravens and are riding

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Speaker 1: a two game winning streak and then they sit at

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Speaker 1: three and five right now. The Vikings coming at four

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Speaker 1: and four and are coming off a big win against

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Speaker 1: their rival, the Detroit Lions.

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Speaker 2: That was a big win for them.

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Speaker 1: So this is gonna be a key game for the

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Speaker 1: Ravens on the road, tough environment against a good team

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Speaker 1: to kind of see if they can keep this momentum rolling.

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Speaker 3: Oh, it's really important. You look at it, and I

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Speaker 3: think in a lot of ways, this is a game

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Speaker 3: that as the Ravens are turning things around, they've won

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Speaker 3: two straight games, you look at where you can go

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Speaker 3: from here. If you get this win, at least on paper,

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Speaker 3: I think you feel really good about being able to

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Speaker 3: rattle off a bunch of them.

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Speaker 1: And it's kind of like the is this the streak starter?

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Speaker 3: It kind of feels like it could be a lynch

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Speaker 3: pin type game. It has that potential. Again, this is

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Speaker 3: on paper and you have to go out and play

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Speaker 3: the games. And so we'll be having different conversations in

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Speaker 3: the weeks moving forward. But I just feel like, if

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Speaker 3: you're able to win this game and you get three

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Speaker 3: out of the early season hole. Still more work to do,

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Speaker 3: but you're not staring up quite as high anymore if

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Speaker 3: you're able to win this game. And like the Vikings

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Speaker 3: on their side of things, they're sitting there kind of

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Speaker 3: having a similar conversation, feeling like, Okay, their division still

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Speaker 3: within reach. They can they come back from playing a

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Speaker 3: bunch of games without their starting quarterback and climb back

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Speaker 3: into their division race and still make the playoffs. Like

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Speaker 3: those are all conversations on the Vikings podcast this week.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure they're having the same talk. And so that's

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Speaker 3: what makes this game really interesting for both teams. It's

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Speaker 3: kind of a guy to have a game for both groups,

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Speaker 3: and it's going to be really important for the Ravens

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Speaker 3: and there's a lot of things that they're going to

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Speaker 3: need to do well in order to win this game.

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Speaker 1: Well. The big news of the week was the trade

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Speaker 1: deadline on Tuesday, and the Ravens made an addition ahead

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Speaker 1: of that deadline, trading for Draymont Jones. As we already

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Speaker 1: talked about the outside linebacker, and he got on the

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Speaker 1: field immediately Wednesday. John Harball was also very clear in saying, Yep,

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Speaker 1: he's going to be worked with the game plan and

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Speaker 1: he's going to play Sunday in Minnesota. We just got

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Speaker 1: to play exactly so you know, the Ravens were thinned

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Speaker 1: outside linebacker. Here's Draymont Jones who now leads the team

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Speaker 1: in sacks and they need his past rush ability to

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Speaker 1: get after JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 3: I liked what I heard from him. He just felt

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Speaker 3: like a veteran player who has the right mindset. I

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Speaker 3: think that he's when you look at him and the

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Speaker 3: type of player that he's been over the course of

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Speaker 3: his career, I really think that he fits a lot

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Speaker 3: of what the Ravens were looking for. He's a physical presence.

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Speaker 3: He's firstatile, can play either outside linebacker spot, has played

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Speaker 3: defensive line, like go back to Ohio State. You know

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Speaker 3: me watch these Ohio State games, like defensive tackle. Earlier

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Speaker 3: in his career, and so he can play all along

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Speaker 3: that defensive front. And I know we talked about it

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Speaker 3: scenarios where they put him and Kyle van Noy and

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Speaker 3: possibility exists. I think we may see some pass rush

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Speaker 3: situations where all those guys around the field and trying

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Speaker 3: to apply pressure on the quarterback. So I like him

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Speaker 3: and I like that, like he's a he's a tough dude.

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Speaker 3: And you got that sense in talking to him.

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Speaker 1: You said you liked what you heard from Let's go

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Speaker 1: Let's run the clip when he was asked what he's

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Speaker 1: gonna bring to Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: Uh, somebody who physicals.

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Speaker 3: Hell, we're going to attack every play like he said

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Speaker 3: So obviously a fiery guy and he has he has

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Speaker 1: And I think versatility is key and you talked about

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Speaker 1: of what he allowed Kyle Hamilton to do. He delivered

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Speaker 1: versatility for somebody else primarily Yeah, he like he unlocked

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Speaker 1: Mike Green I talked to in the locker room this

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Speaker 2: And tools in his bag.

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Speaker 1: And I think that it could kind of unlock the

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Speaker 1: And it's going to be a similar challenge for Draymond

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Speaker 1: Jones and Eloi Goman had and getting up to speed

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Speaker 1: not an impossible task, especially for an edge rusher.

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Speaker 2: Go get the quarterback, go by pressure. Yeah, he's done this.

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Speaker 1: He also has the advantage of he played in similar

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Speaker 1: schemes in Tennessee. Dinard Wilson, who was a defensive backs

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Speaker 1: that there's a lot of crossover. There's a lot of crossover.

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Speaker 3: I think, honestly, that's one thing that I didn't really

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Speaker 3: He's basically been those teams run set and the Titans

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Speaker 3: they run the Ravens defense. Like we have seen this

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Speaker 3: permeate throughout the NFL. Mike McDonald out in Seattle, it's

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Speaker 3: virtually the same system that he ran here. And Dinard

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Speaker 3: so as more teams will running this Ravens defense that

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Speaker 3: has been highly successful, that helps the transition process similar

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Speaker 3: to a Lohi Gillman, same system overall that they're running

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Speaker 1: Jaymont Jones is also going to keep everybody fresher. Mike

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Speaker 3: When you're at this point of the season and you're

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Speaker 3: But for this moment in time to be as healthy

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Speaker 1: Yeah, going into Week ten, it's extremely rare. And the

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Speaker 1: Ravens obviously were massive beneficiaries of the bye, and then

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Speaker 1: The health of a team makes a massive difference. And

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Speaker 1: very different story. Running Back Aaron Jones Junior this time

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Speaker 1: Josh Oliver, former Ravens tight end. He's really good blocking

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Speaker 1: It's a tale of two different stories with these two

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's provided a spark.

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Speaker 1: anytime you go against a rookie, he's not a rookie.

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Speaker 1: You want to pressure him, all those different things. The

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Speaker 1: want to replicate. But John Harball, when asked about JJ McCarthy,

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Speaker 1: John Harball spent a fair amount of time around that

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Speaker 3: He was a quarterback under Jim Harball when Michigan won

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Speaker 1: Well, they're gonna have to deal with the Vikings blitz

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Speaker 1: Yep, I'll pay you five bucks right now, Okay if

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Speaker 2: Yallo horn, Well that's the Yalla horn.

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Speaker 1: we have to be elite at the at the operational

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Speaker 1: side of our offense, the pre snap adjustments, all of that.

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Speaker 1: This is the game where it gets put to the test.

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Speaker 3: Totally agree. Now, on the defensive side, a guy who

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Speaker 3: I've got starred as a huge player in this game

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Speaker 3: is second year cornerback Nate Wiggins, and I don't know

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Speaker 3: if he's going to travel with Justin Jefferson as he's

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Speaker 3: done in some recent games, But whether he travels or not,

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Speaker 3: I think he's going to be matched up against Justin

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Speaker 3: Jefferson plenty of times in this game, and Jefferson might

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Speaker 3: be the best receiver in football. If you don't keep

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Speaker 3: a lid on him, then it's going to be a

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Speaker 3: long day. And Nate Wiggins is going to have that

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Speaker 3: assignment plenty of times on Sunday. And I think there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of pressure on his shoulders. I think he's come.

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Speaker 3: He's made a big jump in year two. And the

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Speaker 3: thing that I really like about him is that he

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Speaker 3: wants that assignment, like he wants the pressure.

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't surprise me if he asked the coaches for that

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Speaker 1: assignment this week.

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Speaker 2: We don't know, but wouldn't surprise me.

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Speaker 3: Would not surprise me. He's done that over the course

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Speaker 3: of his of his time. He did it in college

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Speaker 3: and then he's done it here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Chuck Bacano talked about at the bye like Nate Wiggins

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Speaker 3: went to the coaches basically earlier this season. It was like,

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Speaker 3: give me the number one guy, Like I'm ready, I'm

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Speaker 3: this is why you drafted me?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so like, no bigger number one guy justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 3: So like, I won't be surprised at all if he's

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Speaker 3: covering him from the majority of the game and following

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Speaker 3: him all around the field, and that's going to be

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Speaker 3: a test for Nate and I like, I think he's

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Speaker 3: playing great football and I think he's up to the challenge.

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Speaker 3: But that's no easy assignment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely agree. I think it goes beyond Justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 1: Jordan Addison is another really good wide receiver for them.

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Speaker 2: They have some t J.

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Speaker 1: Hockinson at tight end. They have some weapons on that

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Speaker 1: offense that you have to contend with. Their head coach

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Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell was complimentary of the Ravens secondary, saying it's

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Speaker 1: one of the best cornerback groups in the league. And

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Speaker 1: then you add on top of that Kyle Hamilton and

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Speaker 1: a Loe Gilmot at safety and Malachi Starks, and you

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Speaker 1: know they feel like they have their hands full with

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Speaker 1: the Ravens secondary too. So certainly this is a good

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Speaker 1: battle of skill skill position players wideouts versus secondary and

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Speaker 1: this is the game why where you see why the

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Speaker 1: Ravens invest so much in their secondary when you look

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Speaker 1: at their salary cap.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, an interesting thing of Jordan Addison, he came

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Speaker 3: out in the same draft class as say Flowers, so

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Speaker 3: they're always going to be connected a little bit. Vikings

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Speaker 3: took him right before the Ravens ended up taking save flowers.

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Speaker 3: But those two guys are always going to be connected

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Speaker 3: just because they were both first round picks and selected

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Speaker 3: just a few spots apart from each other. So it's

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Speaker 3: not like they're matching up against each other or anything

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Speaker 3: like that. But an interesting little note in this game

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Speaker 3: with those two guys.

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Speaker 2: Yep. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens also have an interesting note in terms of

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Speaker 1: tight end Mark Andrews, who is on the precipice of

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Speaker 1: becoming the franchise leader in receiving yards. He needs eighteen

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Speaker 1: yards in this game to take the title away from

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Speaker 1: Derek Mason for most receiving yards in Ravens history. Gonna

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Mark Andrews gets that done.

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Speaker 3: You think it happens this week?

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Speaker 1: He also eighteen yards I think he's got He might

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Speaker 1: get that on the first series.

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Speaker 3: This one catch could do that. He also is only

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Speaker 3: ten catches away from breaking the record for all time

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Speaker 3: receptions leaders, so Mark already has the touchmost receiving touchdowns

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Speaker 3: in franchise history. He's now eighteen yards away from the

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Speaker 3: most receiving yards in franchise history, and he's ten catches

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Speaker 3: away from the most catches, no.

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Speaker 2: Ten catches history a lot that would be.

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Speaker 3: A lot may not happen in this week, but in

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Speaker 3: the next couple of games, I think that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 3: And Mark, he talked this week about it. He made

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Speaker 3: the point that like, look, this is a testament to

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Speaker 3: playing with the god of great players and give credit

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Speaker 3: around and talked about kind of the pride that he

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Speaker 3: has and in the longevity and the consistency and being

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Speaker 3: here and being a valued member of the organization. Also

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Speaker 3: made the point that it's it's not like the focus.

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Speaker 3: He's such a locked in guy that wants He even said, like,

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Speaker 3: I hope this isn't the biggest record that I said,

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Speaker 3: the biggest accomplishment that I have. He wants, he wants

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Speaker 3: a championship here, but I just I'm happy for Mark

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Speaker 3: to be able to get to this point. I think

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Speaker 3: that there's been far too much conversation, in my mind,

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Speaker 3: especially over the last year, of do the Ravens trademark

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Speaker 3: Andrews and move on and all this stuff, and players

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Speaker 3: have consistently said, leading with Lamar Jackson, like let's stop

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Speaker 3: that chatter right in its tracks. And I think that

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Speaker 3: there's probably not even enough appreciation for how good of

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Speaker 3: a player Mark Andrews is currently and how he has

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Speaker 3: been over the course of his entire career here like

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Speaker 3: he's been he has been the marked man on this

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Speaker 3: Ravens passing a game. Yeah hold on, yeah, I didn't

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Speaker 3: even plan for that, but he's been. He's been the

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Speaker 3: marked man for this Ravens passing attack really since twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 3: and he's had a lot of eyes on him and

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Speaker 3: just consistently he goes out there and puts up production

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Speaker 3: and makes tough catches and shows up in big moments.

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Speaker 3: And these records that he's on the precipice of breaking

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Speaker 3: are just a further indication of that. And I just

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Speaker 3: think he's he's an all time great raven and.

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Speaker 1: He might go down is the greatest Ravens pass catcher ever.

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Speaker 3: Well, he's gonna have basically all's gonna have.

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Speaker 2: You got the trifecta of records, you got the title.

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Speaker 3: Because it he's gonna be there.

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Speaker 1: And it's so funny that it's a tight end, you know.

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Speaker 1: Todd Heap was kind of held that for I mean,

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Speaker 1: Mason had a great run or whatever, but like he

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Speaker 1: wasn't a career, Raven wasn't drafted by the Ravens, Like

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Speaker 1: wasn't a homegrown Raven great player, awesome, but it was

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Speaker 1: a little bit different from homegrown guys. And Todd Heap

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Speaker 1: was that dude. And now Mark Andrews is going to

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Speaker 1: become that and so that's that's pretty cool. And the

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Speaker 1: thing about Mark that I respect the most is that

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Speaker 1: this dude is just as professional as you could ever

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Speaker 1: ask for the way he and he talked about it,

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Speaker 1: I asked him about what did he envision for his

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Speaker 1: career when he first was drafted by the Ravens in

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Speaker 1: the third round in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 2: What did he see coming?

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Speaker 1: And he was like, man, I just knew I was

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Speaker 1: always going to be hungry, Like I was just going

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Speaker 1: to be hungry, hungry, hungry, And that's never changed, that hunger.

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Speaker 1: And that's what that's honestly what you see. Nobody's ever

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Speaker 1: more diut in than Mark Andrews. And you know, even

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Speaker 1: through the turmoil that he had in the playoffs last

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Speaker 1: year to come back the way he has this year,

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Speaker 1: been the same exact.

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Speaker 2: Guy, no difference in Mark Andrews.

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Speaker 1: And also I thought Charlie Kohler made a good point

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Speaker 1: on this podcast that he's had to deal a little

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Speaker 1: bit with his an evolving role. You know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he used to be the guy.

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Speaker 1: He was the guy five years ago, and now he's

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Speaker 1: not the guy in this ravings pass catching group.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of guys.

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Speaker 1: This Hay Flowers Bateman, you know, even in his own

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Speaker 1: room isaa likely. So you know, he's had to adjust

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Speaker 1: to that to a degree, which can be tough for

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Speaker 1: a player who's going to be your franchise leader all time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and he has without batting an eye and that's just

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Speaker 1: speaks to Mark. He's a pro who's about the team,

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Speaker 1: the team, the team, and he just wants to win.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And he's done a lot of winning in his career.

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Speaker 3: And I really do think that these records that he's

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Speaker 3: about to break, I think that he it's nice. I

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Speaker 3: think that he's he totally understands the history of it.

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Speaker 3: But I think that he is far more focused right

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Speaker 3: now and in the game on Sunday, on helping this

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Speaker 3: team try to get back to the playoffs and make

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Speaker 3: a and that's really where his mind is in and end.

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Speaker 3: But we will give him credit, We'll give him his

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Speaker 3: flowers and props because they are well deserved.

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Speaker 1: I think Mark Andrews getting that record on Sunday is

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Speaker 1: more likely than you pronouncing the horn.

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Speaker 3: Probably fair, that's correct, not you either, You didn't do

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Speaker 3: any better.

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Speaker 2: Hey, hey, I got closed and give it. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: ask why Norwegian relatives how close it was?

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Speaker 3: All right, we'll see, we'll see. So as always, you

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Speaker 3: can email us at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL

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Speaker 3: dot net. Kickoff Sunday is one o'clock, so we can't

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Speaker 3: wait for that game. We'll be back with you after

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Speaker 3: the game of breaking it all down for you. So

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Speaker 3: thank you so much for listening, and we'll be back

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Speaker 3: with you again on Sunday