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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome in on a Friday, Chris Brown, Steve

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Speaker 2: Taster with you. One Bills Live is your program of choice.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, as we'll be with you here

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Speaker 2: until three Eastern time this afternoon, six days away from

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Speaker 2: the draft, and we are ready to get this thing rolling.

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Speaker 2: My god, the misinformation flying around right now. Lying season

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Speaker 2: is well underway across the league.

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Speaker 3: It's so bad.

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Speaker 2: Well, we understand that. There's a measure of strategy to it.

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Speaker 2: I get that, totally understand it. Don't want to lay

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Speaker 2: your cards on the table, so to speak. So I

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Speaker 2: understand that and the reasons for it. People like us, though,

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Speaker 2: have to sift through all of it right and decide

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Speaker 2: what sounds legitimate, what makes sense, and what is just

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Speaker 2: outrights lying.

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Speaker 4: Here's the thing, No matter what teams tell you, it

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Speaker 4: all comes down to just a few factors. One, if

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Speaker 4: there's nothing on their board that is better than what

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Speaker 4: you can offer, they're not going to trade. Okay, they

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Speaker 4: have to want what you got more than they're going

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Speaker 4: to trade. And of course every pick, including the Chicago

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Speaker 4: Bears first pick, is up for sale. If you want

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Speaker 4: to go that high, but you may be paying five

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Speaker 4: ones or something. It's all up for grab. Don't let

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Speaker 4: them kid you. Everything is for sale. All you got

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Speaker 4: to do is make an offer. They can say no,

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Speaker 4: but that's what that's the way it is. And I'm

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Speaker 4: telling you right now, everybody wants to trade up. Everybody

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Speaker 4: would trade in the top ten if they could do

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Speaker 4: it for a bag of footballs.

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Speaker 2: But it's more expensive than that a little bit.

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Speaker 4: So there you have it. It's that simple. It's that simple.

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Speaker 4: Do you want what's on the board more than you

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Speaker 4: want what you can what.

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Speaker 3: They'll take for it. That's it.

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Speaker 2: Let's go among the rumors that are swirling, because I

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Speaker 2: think the top ten is going to be fascinating next

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Speaker 2: Thursday night, not only because of the quarterback needy teams

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Speaker 2: that are at least in the top ten or just

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Speaker 2: outside the top ten, but because of the receiver talent

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Speaker 2: at the top of the draft too. And there are

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Speaker 2: some who believe and this would probably be a first

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Speaker 2: case scenario for the Bills down at twenty eight. Worst

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Speaker 2: case scenario for the Bills Steve quarterback one two and three,

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Speaker 2: But then Arizona stays put, doesn't move out takes Marvin

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Speaker 2: Harrison Junior. The Chargers they don't move and they take

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Speaker 2: Malik Neighbors. The Giants. Okay, they take the fourth quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans either take an offensive tackle or do they

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Speaker 2: take Roma Donday because all they have a receiver is

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Speaker 2: Treylon Burks and DeAndre Hopkins, who's probably in his last year.

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Speaker 2: And now you get down to the Falcons, they're taking

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Speaker 2: a pass rusher. Bears at nine. Top three receivers are

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Speaker 2: off the board before you even get to pick nine.

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Speaker 2: So are they taking Brian Thomas Junior at nine? Right?

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Speaker 2: Or are the Jets at ten?

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Speaker 4: This top the top ten of this draft. It's usually

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Speaker 4: that's not unrealistic.

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Speaker 3: Right, it's not at all, not at all. And here's

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Speaker 3: the thing.

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Speaker 4: This draft should be really intriguing because of the amount

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Speaker 4: of quarterbacks at the top of it. Right now, you

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Speaker 4: can interchange two or three guys, you know, like JJ

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Speaker 4: McCarthy and Mike Pennix, you know, and all that all

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Speaker 4: that stuff in with Drake may and and Daniels and and.

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Speaker 3: Williams, Caleb Williams. You can interchange all those again.

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Speaker 4: But the fact that there's five of them up there,

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Speaker 4: you would think, man, this is gonna go crazy. Well

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Speaker 4: not really, because the draft worked out that all of

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Speaker 4: the teams at the top need those guys and one

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Speaker 4: of these it's not gonna be Remember when josh And

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Speaker 4: and josh And and Baker and you know, Sam Darnell

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Speaker 4: come out in eighteen. There's a little space up there.

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Speaker 4: So there was some shuffling going. It was really is

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Speaker 4: much more intriguing than this one is. And we were

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Speaker 4: kind of neck deep in it because we needed one of.

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Speaker 2: Them, and so that was better and our producers more

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Speaker 2: fultonac just reminded me that they did spend one hundred

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Speaker 2: million dollars on Calvin Ridley the Tennessee Titan, So maybe

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Speaker 2: they don't take a receiver at seven, but nine with

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Speaker 2: the Bears, yes, right, And so you're not even out

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Speaker 2: And what that does to me is it accelerates where

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Speaker 2: Brian Thomas goes off the board.

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Speaker 3: He might be a top.

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Speaker 4: Talent wise, he maybe should be in the fifteen to

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Speaker 3: Need Wise he's top ten.

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Speaker 2: So what you really if you're a Bills fan and

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Speaker 2: or perhaps even a d Mitchell if they're in your

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Speaker 2: aggressive and get up high and push those other teams

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Speaker 2: need Minnesota getting aggressive, and you need Denver or the

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Speaker 2: Raiders to potentially get a little aggressive. Maybe the Raiders

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Speaker 2: feel it necessary to hop over Denver. You know, division

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Speaker 2: opponent also needs a quarterback. You know, maybe you need

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Speaker 2: the Raiders to get aggressive and leapfrog them that.

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Speaker 4: It's really interesting eleven, twelve, and thirteenth picks of this draft. Minnesota, Denver,

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Speaker 4: Vegas all looking for a guy, but they're on the

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Speaker 4: outside looking in. They're not getting to the top three,

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Speaker 4: so they got to find one of those guys that

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Speaker 4: they like and who's fourth or fifth, and they got

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Speaker 4: to get ahead of each other to make sure they

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Speaker 4: get a Minnesota sitting there at eleven going ah, are

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Speaker 4: we really gonna get a got What happens if if

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Speaker 4: Denver at twelve trades with the Jets.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, leap frogs yeah?

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Speaker 4: Or Chicago or Atlanta, you know, one of those teams

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Speaker 4: just ahead of them, like the Bills did with Dallas

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Speaker 4: last year and got Dalton Kincaid. Sweet move for us, right,

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Speaker 4: But all of those teams, and Minnesota's got two first

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Speaker 4: round picks. They've got the twenty third pick too, So you've, man,

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Speaker 4: there's a lot in this This This first round is

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Speaker 4: scheduled to go from eight until eleven thirty something like that.

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Speaker 4: He got no shot, They got no shot at getting

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna say, if i'm the if I'm just

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Speaker 2: trying to crawl into the brain of Brandon Bean here,

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Speaker 2: I don't think there is a scenario where they try

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Speaker 3: That's no way.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he tries to make a move up

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Speaker 2: the board unless Brian Thomas gets past the Colts at fifteen.

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Speaker 2: If he gets past the Colts at fifteen, who could

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Speaker 2: take a receiver? Right, if he gets past the Colts

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Speaker 2: at fifteen, the battle at sixteen doesn't want a receiver.

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Speaker 2: Jacksonville probably not. Cincinnati's keeping t Higgins this year, probably

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Speaker 2: help Rams, probably not. You got Cooper cup Pooka Nako,

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Speaker 2: think if he gets past Indy at fifteen, I think

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Speaker 2: Brandon Bean's on the phone with the Seahawks, the Jags,

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Speaker 2: maybe not the Bengals because they're too stiff a competition

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Speaker 2: and maybe they don't want to help the Bills. So

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Speaker 2: maybe that's a waste of time. So maybe the Rams

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Speaker 2: at nineteen, you know, like Seattle at sixteen, Rams at nineteen, you're.

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Speaker 3: On the phone, right, that's right.

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Speaker 2: I think that's where it happens. Brian Thomas slips past

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Speaker 2: the Colts at fifteen. I think Brandon's on the phone.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know what you'd have to give to

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Speaker 3: get up there.

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Speaker 2: Well, we went through that, didn't Yeah, we've been the

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Speaker 2: picket twenty eight and next year's.

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Speaker 4: Two, next and one of next year's two, probably the

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Speaker 4: high one, probably maybe.

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Speaker 4: Maybe you're pick at twenty two, not the Minnesota pick

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Speaker 4: at twenty two. That would be plenty if depending on

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Speaker 4: what they you know, what they value would add. But

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Speaker 4: i'm they can make it happen. We thought we talked

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Speaker 4: about letting them, you know, having it happen, but.

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Speaker 3: It's a big jump.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't I don't think it gets past fifteen.

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Speaker 2: If those top three just get all jammed and crammed

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Speaker 2: between four and ten, right then, because then everybody's the

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Speaker 4: Everybody gets desperate to get a guy. Yeah, and it

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Speaker 4: becomes hard.

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Speaker 3: Hard.

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Speaker 4: It's hard to sit there in that draft room just

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Speaker 4: with your guys and all you've talked about and watch

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Speaker 4: other teams get to pick the guys you want.

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Speaker 2: So now I'm going to try to warm you up

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Speaker 2: to my alternate plant. Okay, Let's say that if I'm

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Speaker 2: ready for this, the unfortunate happens and the top three

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Speaker 2: wide outs go between four and nine, Brian Thomas is

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Speaker 2: off the board fifteen to the Colts, Okay, and A

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Speaker 2: d Mitchell might be the only other receiver you got

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Speaker 2: a first round great on, and let's just say he

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Speaker 2: goes off the board twenty three. Okay, and you're sitting

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Speaker 2: at twenty eight. What if I told you you could

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Speaker 2: move out of round one and go to round two,

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Speaker 2: pick up a third round pick in the process, and

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Speaker 2: in the second round you pick Xavier Legette and Ricky Piersall.

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Speaker 2: How would you feel if you moved back and did that?

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Speaker 4: That'd be great, except that Ricky Piersoll and the Xavier

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Speaker 4: Legett are gonna be up there too. They're never gonna

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Speaker 4: get there because of the run of the same guys

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Speaker 4: that left you hanging, eh, the same teams that are

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Speaker 4: those other guys that are taken already are gonna be

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Speaker 4: just as desperate, and they're gonna take those guys. They're

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Speaker 4: never gonna get to sixty and thirty something. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I get it now.

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 4: If they got exavierly get and Ricky Piersol, I'd be

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Speaker 4: writing piggyback with you, Yeah, because you could do a

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Speaker 4: last I'll be on your back, hitting you like.

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Speaker 3: A rented mule. Let's go.

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Speaker 2: They only do one laugh, right.

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Speaker 3: But that's yes. I would be yes.

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Speaker 4: I would be equally equally thrilled with that because I

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Speaker 4: think I like leget you know, I like lag and.

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Speaker 2: Ricky Pierson, but he's talented.

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Speaker 4: Ricky Piersol is a bigger lad Maconkie. Yes, he catches it.

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Speaker 4: He runs well, he's he's two hundreds of a second

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Speaker 4: fast slower in his forty He runs a four to

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Speaker 4: four to one and McConkie runs a four three nine.

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Speaker 4: Ricky Pearso can catch it. He's like, he's like a

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Speaker 4: wide receiver version of kincaid. I mean, you throw it.

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Speaker 4: He's a vacuum man. That guy's pulling it in. So

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Speaker 4: all of that stuff said, Yeah, I'm okay, I'm I'm

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Speaker 4: with that. I can I'm all about it, Brownie, I'm

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Speaker 4: all about it.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that can happen.

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Speaker 2: But I know there's a risk when you're move back.

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Speaker 2: But as long as you got enough guys that.

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Speaker 3: You like, Yeah, there's always guys you like.

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Speaker 2: I mean, well, let me ask you this, then, what

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Speaker 2: do you stack for me? The likelihood of these three

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Speaker 2: things happening okay or actually, yeah, these three things happen

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Speaker 2: all right, one, the likelihood of Brandon Bean trading up,

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Speaker 2: the likelihood of him staying right where he is at

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Speaker 2: twenty eight, and the likelihood of him trading back into

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Speaker 2: the second round. Stack those in likelihood of occurrence one, two,

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Speaker 3: In round one, that would be five of seven. Then

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Speaker 3: It took eight guys before the Bills.

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Speaker 3: Got to save the franchise. No, he can a safety.

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Speaker 2: What I'm saying is his versatility. He could be like

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right.

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Speaker 4: He is a very willing and physical tackler. He's very

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Speaker 2: I don't want to either. But if they it's stuck

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Speaker 4: They're gonna be Yeah, that's exactly the guy I wanted.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if there's like six wide outs off

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it.

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Speaker 4: But man o man, they're gonna trade up a couple spots.

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Speaker 2: And it's probably gotta be with an NFC team because

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Speaker 2: Who's helping them?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, nobody right.

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Speaker 2: Like Seattle at sixteen? And look, I wouldn't completely rule

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Speaker 4: Gonna be really interesting, and all these teams are gonna

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Speaker 4: The pick Chicago is gonna make is for a foregone

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Speaker 2: Some people believe that.

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Speaker 2: Does anybody really know besides Adam Peters their GM right,

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Speaker 2: I don't think so.

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Speaker 3: And then you've got New England, so I don't know.

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Speaker 4: There's gonna be some I just it feels like it's

444
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,439
Speaker 4: too common now not to have four different teams picking

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Speaker 4: different who are gonna pick in the top ten, not

446
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Speaker 4: picking the top ten because they can get so much

447
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Speaker 4: help for their roster if they trade out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, top ten is going to be fun. Speaking of fun,

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Speaker 2: Jason Kelcey was called an imbecile by his brother Travis

450
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Speaker 2: on the latest edition of their podcast because he lost

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Speaker 2: his Super Bowl fifty two ring in a pool of

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Speaker 2: Skyline chili. Don't worry, we'll explain. So essentially what happened

453
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Speaker 2: was Jason Kelsey was at a show called The Great

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Speaker 2: Lumbaby Games. It's a live show that they host and

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Speaker 2: teams compete in basically ridiculous games. One challenge saw participants

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Speaker 2: wading through pools of Skyline Chili, popular Cincinnati dish. These

457
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Speaker 2: two guys are from They went to University of Cincinnati

458
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Speaker 2: and they had to search for replica super rings tied

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Speaker 2: to socks in this vat of Skyline chili, which, for

460
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 2: those said, don't know, it's spaghetti with chili on top.

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00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 2: It's got to be the dumbest concept for a food

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Speaker 2: or a meal I've ever heard of. Here's the catch.

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Speaker 2: One of the rings tied to a sock in this

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Speaker 2: vat of Skyline chili was actually Kelsey's real Super Bowl ring,

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Speaker 2: which he won. As we know, when the Eagles beat

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Speaker 2: the Patriots in twenty eighteen, they get to the end

467
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Speaker 2: of the event and his ring has not been found.

468
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Speaker 2: They have yet to find it. Everything that was in

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Speaker 2: the vat of chili has been thrown away. So Kelsey

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Speaker 2: has assumed that his super Bowl ring is in a

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Speaker 2: landfill somewhere in the Cincinnati Tri state area.

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Speaker 3: And uh.

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Speaker 2: After relaying this full story on his podcast, his brother

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Speaker 2: Travis basically called him an imbecile, so basic. He said,

475
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Speaker 2: the ring is officially gone. We've put the insurance claim in.

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Speaker 2: He goes, but I think the insurance company might have

477
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Speaker 2: some things to say about whether they're going to cover that.

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Speaker 2: So Steve, pretend you're the insurance company and Jason Kelsey

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Speaker 2: calls you and says, yes, Uh, I'd like to put

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Speaker 2: a claim in. I've lost my super Bowl fifty two ring.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's terrible, mister Kelsey. How did that happen? Well,

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Speaker 2: we were running a game show and we had this

483
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Speaker 2: vat of skyline chill. You're familiar with that, and uh,

484
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 2: we put rings in there, tied to socks, but we

485
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Speaker 2: couldn't find it. So I'd like to file a claim

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Speaker 2: for a lost ring. There is no way any insurance

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Speaker 2: company is no. You deliberately hear it in a vat,

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Speaker 2: You can't.

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Speaker 3: It can't. It has to be lost.

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Speaker 4: Some policies are like, it has to be lost, can't

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Speaker 4: be stolen, because if it's stolen and it's got it'll

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Speaker 4: turn up someplace like like Joe Namis Hall of Fame

493
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 4: rings bounced around the country twenty times, you know, not

494
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Speaker 4: hall of Fame ring, super Bowl ring. If it's lost,

495
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 4: you gotta claim if it's stolen. Sometimes you don't, or

496
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 4: maybe it's backwards. That's just the way I understand it.

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Speaker 4: I think that's right.

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Speaker 3: You got to you gotta say it was lost.

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Speaker 2: Those rings are like a million bucks.

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Speaker 3: Now, they're not a million, but they're yeah, they're.

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Speaker 2: A thousands, several hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 4: Maybe several hundred. But yeah, they're expensive depending on what

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Speaker 4: they do.

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Speaker 2: Now, I mean the Patriots super Bowl fifty one ring,

505
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Speaker 2: Robert Kraft. You know he's got six steat he's got

506
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: six Super Bowl Lombardi trophies on it. He said his

507
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: was just over a million.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's or.

509
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Speaker 2: I take that back. It was auctioned off at just over.

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Speaker 3: A minute, right, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of diamonds on those things.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I mean you know, maybe, yeah, we're gonna

513
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 4: get tweeted at by some insurance people, which is fine.

514
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Speaker 3: Let me you can straighten me out.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait for that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you don't you have to know that the

517
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 4: only way that you're gonna you're not gonna damage it

518
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 4: because you're not gonna wear it like you know, lifting

519
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 4: weights or you know, chopping wood or something.

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00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 2: Right, right, because you're presumably not wearing it when you're

521
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: doing that stuff. I would like to think. But man,

522
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: talk about a bad decision.

523
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Speaker 3: Yeah that's yeah, Well.

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Speaker 4: Like we've seen out of your site, we've seen high

525
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Speaker 4: Mark Stadium, and we've seen in high Mark Stadium Jason

526
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Speaker 4: Kelsey's ability to make poor decisions.

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Speaker 2: That is true. So you're not wrong.

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Speaker 4: So his judgment was in question from the beginning. But yeah,

529
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Speaker 4: it's his ring. Let him do what he wants. And

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Speaker 4: I get it to you. If there's a bunch of you,

531
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Speaker 4: figure somebody's gonna be you know, somebody's can in charge

532
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 4: of it. Yeah right, sure, don't you do something to

533
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 4: make sure that didn't happen. Take some precaution, you would

534
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 4: like to think. First of all, you don't put your

535
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Speaker 4: ring in a vat of chili, but still a pool

536
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Speaker 4: of chili. Yeah, you're right, right, Well, there you go.

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Speaker 2: I think Travis was right. His brother is an aviant.

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Speaker 2: We have to take a break here because when we

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Speaker 2: come back. It is the final mock draft watch of

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Speaker 2: the pre draft campaign. With the draft next week. We

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Speaker 2: bring in Bill Seam reporter Maddy lab to break down

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Speaker 2: the final numbers on the mock draft watch, the most

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Speaker 2: popular positions, the most popular names, you name it, We've

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Speaker 2: got it all the data. Next here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: presented by Colt of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All

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Speaker 2: right back here on One Bill's Live Chris Brown Steve

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Speaker 2: to ask here in our Bill's Team reporter Maddy Glab

548
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Speaker 2: for the final mock Draft watch before twenty twenty four

549
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Speaker 2: NFL Draft next Thursday. All the tabulations have been made,

550
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: all the mock drafts have been tracked. What do we

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Speaker 2: have one hundred and twenty nine and all?

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Speaker 5: We have one twenty nine?

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Speaker 6: But Brownie, we have one more coming out on Tuesday,

554
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Speaker 6: I believe it is.

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Speaker 5: So we have one more to make it ten total. Okay,

556
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Speaker 5: So we've tracked.

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Speaker 6: Nine so far, or done nine mock draft watches so far.

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Speaker 6: That means we have tracked one hundred and thirty mock drafts.

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Speaker 5: That's a big number.

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Speaker 3: It is a big number. And that's season though.

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Speaker 2: And look, we've been down this path before, so we'll

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Speaker 2: just touch on it briefly, but overwhelmingly, it has been

563
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: receiver from the jump in terms of most popular position

564
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: mocked to the Bills. Then the digs trade happened and

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Speaker 2: it turned into a veritable landslide.

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Speaker 5: Yes, wide receiver, wide receiver.

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Speaker 6: Wide receiver is what we have seen since the Bills

568
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Speaker 6: traded Steph on digs and as of late, we've seen

569
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 6: the Bills trade up in mock drafts to go get

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Speaker 6: different wide receivers. The one that we've seen the most

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Speaker 6: is Brian Thomas Junior. He is starting to be a

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Speaker 6: favorite again mocked to the Bills. Right next to Brian

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Speaker 6: Thomas Junior, though, is ad Ni Mitchell from Texas.

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Speaker 5: These two wide receivers go.

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Speaker 6: Back to back to back to back when you're looking

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Speaker 6: at how people are mocking wide receivers to the Bills.

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Speaker 6: If you look in totality, out of the one hundred

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Speaker 6: and twenty nine that we have tracked, Brian Thomas Junior

579
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Speaker 6: has been mocked to the Bills thirty three times, Adani

580
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 6: Mitchell has been mocked to the Bills.

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Speaker 5: Thirty two times.

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Speaker 6: Ninety nine times a wide receiver has been mocked to

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Speaker 6: Buffalo that is more than seventy seven percent of the

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Speaker 6: mock drafts.

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Speaker 4: Three out of every four mock drafts put us with

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Speaker 4: a wide out more than that, and the other twenty

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Speaker 4: five percent of the people don't.

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00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 2: Know what they're doing well. Defensive lineman and defensive back. Right,

589
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: those are your other possibilities, which is what we were

590
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 2: just discussing here earlier.

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Speaker 4: It gets less and less likely. But here's the thing too,

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Speaker 4: I think and Brownie's I think Brownie's right. No, I

593
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 4: don't know whether this is pre draft angst on my

594
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Speaker 4: part that I think there's gonna be a ton of

595
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 4: white outs gone, and you're gonna.

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Speaker 3: Have to trade up to get ad Mitch.

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00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 4: You're again to trade up to get Brian Thomas junior,

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Speaker 4: Troy f Franklin. You may have to trade up to

599
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Speaker 4: get Troy Franklin or Xavier Worthy.

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Speaker 2: They make a lot ofy To have more people take

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Speaker 2: offensive tackles. I think we have to start calling some teams.

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00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 3: And tackle class is awesome this year.

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Speaker 2: You'd be crazy not to come out of the first

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Speaker 2: round with one.

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Speaker 6: I was on the phone with Cynthia Freeland yesterday preparing

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Speaker 6: for a draft story that we're going to have go

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Speaker 6: out next week. She said she would not be surprised

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Speaker 6: if she sees eight offensive tackles go off the board.

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Speaker 5: In the first round, that that would break a record.

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Speaker 6: The previous record was seven offensive tackles being drafted in

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Speaker 6: the first round. She believes that there are just so

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Speaker 6: many teams that have offensive tackle offensive lineman needs and

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Speaker 6: the talent in this year's draft class, specifically speaking about

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Speaker 6: offensive tackle is too good for a lot of teams

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Speaker 6: to pass up.

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Speaker 2: Well, that would be.

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Speaker 3: Great when you think about it.

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Speaker 4: Most teams, particularly in the AFC, have an established guy

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Speaker 4: that they're They're not one of these teams now, certainly

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Speaker 4: at the bottom, the Patriots, who else, Denver tackle? Yes,

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Speaker 4: but I'm talking about quarterbacks. All these teams have a

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Speaker 4: quarterback that most of them have, fourteen or fifteen of

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Speaker 4: the thirteen or fourteen of the AFC teams. How I

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Speaker 4: have quarterbacks. You got to protect the guy, yeah, and

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00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 4: they all need that. Now the Bills are set for

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Speaker 4: a minute, but that's they're.

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Speaker 2: Unique, and they just signed Lyle Collins, so they're unique.

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati needs one, Jacksonville could use some help. Miami, Cleveland, Houston,

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Speaker 4: Kansas City, yep so Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: That's good they all need.

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Speaker 6: Oh that might mean argue that jacks get pushed down

632
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Speaker 6: to Buffalo. If offensive tackles and quarterbacks go off the

633
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 6: board at a heavy amount in the first twenty picks,

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00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 6: you could see some wide receivers falling to Buffalo. Now

635
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Speaker 6: the name that I think of falling is Brian Thomas Junior.

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Speaker 6: I don't think Rome A Doonsay is going to be

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Speaker 6: available at number twenty four of the bills.

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Speaker 4: If those receivers start to slide, Maddie like Marvin Harrison Junior,

639
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 4: Eliite neighbors Roma duneesay. If those guys start to drop

640
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 4: like into the second ten instead of the top ten

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00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 4: doing it, it will be and.

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Speaker 3: You know it could happen.

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Speaker 4: I guess if teams do something I expected, particularly if

644
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 4: teams start jumping into the first round. If those teams,

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Speaker 4: like at number what we've been talking about, you know,

646
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,280
Speaker 4: the Minnesota's of the world of Denvers and Las Vegas

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Speaker 4: has tried to get up there to get one of

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Speaker 4: those quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that could push people down. I still don't know

650
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Speaker 2: if the receivers.

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Speaker 4: Are People are conjecturing that the New England Patriots have

652
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 4: such a depleted roster. They're going to trade back, can

653
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 4: accumulate picks and wait for a quarterback.

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00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: So you know, all our life's quarterback. Get the quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Figure the rest of it out later. Quarterbacks the hardest.

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Speaker 3: Thing to find, Believe me, bro I know, I was chuckling.

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Speaker 2: Over here when Maddie was talking, because the three of us,

658
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: like we should all be committed. We're trying to speak

659
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Speaker 2: this into existence, make it happy. I mean, this is

660
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: kind of sorry, Like this is where we are. We

661
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 2: are so desperate for receiver that we're trying to speak

662
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: the crazy scenarios that will.

663
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 6: Make drops to eleven and the bills somehow get up

664
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Speaker 6: to number eleven without happening having to trade away a

665
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 6: future pick.

666
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 4: Sorry, let's say this all so all of our hopes

667
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 4: and dreams are dashed and we're stuck at twenty eight

668
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 4: or whatever, and all those guys, all the guys are gone,

669
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 4: and the best edge rusher like Leatu Latu is there

670
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 4: from UCLA.

671
00:36:59,000 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be mad.

672
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 2: He's good, he's talented, he's got a pass rushing I

673
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 2: think the one thing that he has that a lot

674
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 2: of these other guys in the draft at his position

675
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 2: do not have is a very deep pass rush repertoire

676
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 2: like you have. A lot of these guys are just

677
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 2: uber talented physically, so they don't need to use a

678
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 2: lot of pass rush tools to win in college so

679
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: they don't, you know, like Job Robinson, who's ranked right

680
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 2: behind lat Too, he's kind of a one trick pony.

681
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 2: He wins with speed because he's faster than every offensive

682
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 2: tackle in football. That doesn't work football in college football, Yeah,

683
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 2: that doesn't work. In the NFL. Offensive tackles are too good,

684
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 2: and they know if you are a speed guy and

685
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 2: you don't have much else, they just set up and

686
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: adjust to make sure they take care of your speed

687
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: around the arc. Lot Too has a repertoire.

688
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 3: A lot too. Reminds me of Jalen Phillips from Dolphins.

689
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: Who also started his career.

690
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 4: You see a six ' five athlete who can he

691
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 4: just looks. I mean, he'd be a good athlete if

692
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 4: he was five nine, not sixty five. You know, he's

693
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 4: one of those dudes, and man, oh man, I like

694
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 4: what he looks like.

695
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 2: And those two guys have another thing in common. Both

696
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: medically retired from football. Jalen Phillips due to a series

697
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: of concussions. A lot Too due to a neck injury,

698
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 2: but then got medically cleared and returned to football. Same

699
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 2: thing with Phillips after taking a year off.

700
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 3: What do you know about a lot Too?

701
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, liot to Lotto. I think he is an all

702
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 6: around athlete. The finesse is there with the moves that

703
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 6: he puts on tape. He has creativity with the way

704
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 6: that he plays the position. He makes playing edge rusher

705
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 6: look easy. I love the way that he plays the

706
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 6: run in the pass. He's good at shedding blocks. He's

707
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 6: strong with the way that he can blow past offensive linemen.

708
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,919
Speaker 6: He led the nation and tackles for loss per game

709
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 6: with one point eight last season.

710
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 5: He also had thirteen sacks.

711
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 6: And twenty one and a half TFLs. I think this

712
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 6: is someone who could grow into a very talented player

713
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 6: at the next level. The question about law Too, though,

714
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 6: is the medical Do teams believe that he's truly okay?

715
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 6: He had to medically retire at Washington, but he was

716
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 6: great at UCLA. Are teams willing to take a chance

717
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 6: on him in the first round with what's on tape?

718
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 6: With what you think you can get out of that athlete.

719
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 2: Well, and that's the thing because if the medical, because

720
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 2: if the medical's not there, he's probably a top ten pick,

721
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 2: top fifteen at worst, totally right. But because of the medical,

722
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: you know, you're kind of dependent upon what your doctors say,

723
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 2: Like there might be some NFL doctors that say too

724
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,800
Speaker 2: big a risk. If you want to take him in

725
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 2: the third round, fine, but do not use the first

726
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 2: round pick on this guy. Or you might have another

727
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: doctor say this is a one contract guy after four years.

728
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 4: You know, if you're thinking about a guy with this time,

729
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 4: he's this talent and he would be a top ten

730
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 4: pick in most drafts without the medical. It's not just

731
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 4: one doctor. It's not you your doctor, it's their doctor,

732
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 4: that doctor, that and the best doctor and the other doctor.

733
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 4: And you're also calling the doctor that originally made him retire.

734
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 4: I mean, you're you've got fifty picking and you're listening

735
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 4: to all of them.

736
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 3: So you got to sort through that.

737
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 4: So if they if somebody does pick him, and somebody's

738
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 4: going to there's no question about it. He's going in

739
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 4: this draft. If somebody picks him, it's because they are

740
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 4: comfortable with the physicality and he and he's you know

741
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 4: he's stayed healthy at UCLA without a problem.

742
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: And Maddy mentioned his production which is well known. But

743
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 2: he was productive lining up on the left and the

744
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 2: right side. This is just like a right defensive end

745
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 2: or left. The guy played on both sides. They flipped

746
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 2: him around to get matchups and stuff, and he won

747
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 2: from both sides, which sometimes for a college player is

748
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 2: easier said than done.

749
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 6: I want to bring up one trade that we saw

750
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Speaker 6: in the mock draft. Watch the latest round that we

751
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 6: track from Chris Drapasso from CBS Sports, a good friend

752
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Speaker 6: of ours.

753
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Speaker 7: Show.

754
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 6: Yes, he has a trading number twenty eight, number sixty

755
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 6: and a twenty twenty five first round pick. That's all

756
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 6: go going to Atlanta for eight pick number eight and

757
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 6: pick number one oh nine in the fourth round. We're

758
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 6: trading up to get wide receiver Moleak Neighbors out of LSU.

759
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 6: This guy's six to ozho two hundred pounds. He's a

760
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 6: consensus All American first team All SEC last season. He

761
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 6: is scary with the ball in his hands. You can

762
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 6: lie him up anywhere and he will win the one

763
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 6: on one matchups. His strength shows with the way he

764
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 6: can make catches in traffic. He's a true separator and

765
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 6: an explosive receiver. Seventy eight percent of his catches went

766
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 6: for a first down or a touchdown. He had two

767
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 6: straight seasons with one thousand yards and had fourteen touchdowns

768
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 6: in twenty twenty three. Do you think it's worth trading

769
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 6: that to go up and get a receiver like maleak.

770
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 4: Neighbors twenty eight sixty and a twenty twenty five first

771
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 4: round pick.

772
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 5: Yes, twenty twenty five to one.

773
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 2: That's a lot.

774
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 6: That's our first round pick this year, our second round

775
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 6: pick this year, and a first round next year.

776
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 4: That's moving up twenty spots in the first round though too.

777
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 4: I mean he's going from twenty eight to.

778
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 2: I don't see us doing it. He hates giving up

779
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: future ones. We would hate.

780
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 4: We wouldn't be picking again until pick one to twenty.

781
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 2: You're done on day two. Yeah, you're done on day

782
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 2: two right now. With that trade, you would have three

783
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 2: fourth round picks and three fifth round picks what you

784
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: already have in your possession. So you have three fives

785
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 2: right now in two fours. This trade would give you

786
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 2: an additional four. So with three fours, you could easily

787
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 2: get back into the third round if you wanted to

788
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 2: and make a Day two pick. I don't know if

789
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 2: you're making two Day two picks though.

790
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 3: So you don't have any Day two picks now.

791
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 2: No, but I'm saying you can probably trade for one.

792
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're trading to get back in twice.

793
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 2: So you're you got a quiet day too, man, I

794
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 2: don't know.

795
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I'm kind of with you.

796
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 2: I I can't do it. I don't see Brandon giving

797
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 2: up a future one. He an't even do it for

798
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 2: Josh Allen. I can't see him doing it for a receiver.

799
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: I just can't.

800
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,359
Speaker 6: So you guys, right now where we sit, you would

801
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 6: rather remain at number twenty eight, move back, or maybe

802
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 6: move up into the teams to go get a guy,

803
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 6: rather than move up into the top ten to go

804
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 6: get one of the best three.

805
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 2: I said this earlier on the show today. I think

806
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 2: if Brian Thomas for some reason, I'm not saying it's

807
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 2: going to happen, but if for some reason he gets

808
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: past the Colts at fifteen, okay, I think Brandon's on

809
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: the phone.

810
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 4: Malik Neighbors is a great player, and he comes from

811
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 4: a school.

812
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: That toughest conference in football.

813
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 4: That adds some validity to expectations because there's been a

814
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 4: coming out. There's been guys coming out of this program

815
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 4: for the last half dozen years that are studs at

816
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 4: that position. So you think when you draft a guy

817
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:12,440
Speaker 4: out of there who has played as well as he

818
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 4: has in that system, against that conference and against that

819
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 4: in that schedule, that he's the real deal, right, And

820
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 4: you're giving up the chance to pick at twenty eight,

821
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 4: at sixty and next year at hopefully thirty two. If

822
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 4: you pick up at thirty two next year, nobody cares

823
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 4: what you.

824
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 3: Did this year.

825
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 6: What if? What if he is the missing piece to.

826
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 5: Having an amazing what?

827
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 4: I don't know, Guys, I don't play to it a

828
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 4: lot too, is a missing piece and you pass on

829
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 4: him and.

830
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 6: You could play this game anyway, you could play with

831
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 6: any position.

832
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:53,240
Speaker 5: It's so hard.

833
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 6: At this point, a week away from the NFL Draft,

834
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 6: I am down for whatever happens.

835
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,760
Speaker 5: I just want this team to be better in twenty

836
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 5: twenty four.

837
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 6: And if my leak Neighbors gets us there, yeah, and

838
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 6: he gets us to the Promised Land.

839
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the depth. I think the depth of

840
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 2: the receiver class I think it makes it doesn't make

841
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 2: a move like that an absolute necessity. Yes, Naghbors is

842
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 2: an outstanding player, there's no doubt about it. I think

843
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: the depth of the receiver class, which may be the

844
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 2: best we've ever seen in the last twenty five years,

845
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 2: I think that keeps him from Yeah.

846
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 4: There's a bunch of salt taken rows further down the

847
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 4: line for a wide receiver. And I'm not saying they're

848
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 4: not they're not. You know, they're not Jamar Chase and

849
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 4: Maleague Neighbors and Marvin Harrison juniors and that kind of thing.

850
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 4: But there's some really solid professional football players in this

851
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 4: draft at wide receiver.

852
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 5: I want to say one quick point on that.

853
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 6: There's a lot of with some of these wide receivers

854
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 6: who are in the second tier of talent, you're projecting

855
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 6: on what they can do at the next level.

856
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 5: But with a quarterback like Josh.

857
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 6: Allen, you may be able to get the best out

858
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 6: of that second tier.

859
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the two best quarterbacks in football. He

860
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 2: can elevate the players around him, which, again, it kind

861
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 2: of says, you know what, going all the way up

862
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 2: there and getting rid of all this draft capital that's

863
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 2: not an absolute necessity. You know, we could be we

864
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 2: can live with guy B, C, D or E and

865
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 2: he'll be fine. So, uh, great stuff all pre draft

866
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 2: season here Maddie and collecting all of this data for

867
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Speaker 2: the mock draft.

868
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Speaker 3: We appreciate it.

869
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Speaker 2: As Maddy said, one last time.

870
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Speaker 5: I do one more next week.

871
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Speaker 2: As we said, one last mock draft coming your way

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Speaker 2: out Bills dot Com next week, So keep an eye

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Speaker 2: out for that. Although I can't see much changing between

874
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 2: since the Digs trade. Uh, But that's Bill's team reporter

875
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Speaker 2: Matt he Glad with mock Draft Watch. We'll take a break,

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Speaker 2: be back with more in a moment on one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: live Chris Brown Steve Tasker after a spirited discussion on

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Speaker 1: mock drafts and what could unfold on draft night, and

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Speaker 1: number one it is Craig Cray.

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Speaker 2: And there's a multitude of things that could obviously happen,

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Speaker 2: largely to be predicated on the quarterbacks, we would assume,

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Speaker 2: but it could also largely be determined by when these

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Speaker 2: three top receivers come off the board as well. That's

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Speaker 2: if it gets accelerated, you know, because I just looked

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Speaker 2: at a mock on ESPN dot com and it went

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Speaker 2: Harrison four Neighbors five to the Chargers and then Adunze

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Speaker 2: six to the Giants four five six. That ain't good.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna happen like that somewhere.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, here's the thing. Even if that happens, those.

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Speaker 3: Three guys are coming off from the top ten.

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Speaker 2: Even if that happens, you just have to get Brian

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Speaker 2: Thomas past the Jets at ten, because if you do that,

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Speaker 2: then you have Minnesota at eleven, they have other interests,

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Speaker 2: Denver at twelve, and the Raiders at thirteen. I think

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Speaker 2: you're safe through that stretch. Saints at fourteen they need

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Speaker 2: line help on both sides. So now you get to

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Speaker 2: the Colts at fifteen. That's why I believe if you

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Speaker 2: can get Brian Thomas passed the Jets at ten, maybe

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Speaker 2: they take Bowers. In a perfect world, Bowers and Brian

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Speaker 2: Thomas are still on the board when you get to

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Speaker 2: the Colts, because then I think the Colts would take

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Speaker 2: Bowers because they just took maybe they just took Josh

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Speaker 2: Downs last year.

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Speaker 3: So well they've got he.

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Speaker 2: Gets past the Colts at fifteen, Brandon Beans on.

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Speaker 3: The phone, Max, I'm looking at Colin might go corner.

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Speaker 4: The Colts need some help on that side of the ball,

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Speaker 4: so they may not pay that's true receiver either. And

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Speaker 4: they've got You're right about Michael Pittman in over there

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Speaker 4: as well.

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Speaker 2: So I so that's why. And in even a better scenario,

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Speaker 2: you've got the quarterbacks in the second tier, you know,

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Speaker 2: getting jockeyed for at eleven, twelve, and thirteen, and they're

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Speaker 2: all consumed with quarterbacks. And if all those quarterbacks go,

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Speaker 2: now a team like Seattle at sixteen, which may consider quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I know they traded for Sam Howell Gino Smith in

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Speaker 2: the last year of his deal. But maybe you can

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Speaker 2: convince Seattle, you know, if let's just say Pennix is

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Speaker 2: off the board already and they're like, wow, there's no

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Speaker 2: point in staying here. Maybe you know, I mean, I

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Speaker 2: guess they could take an offensive tackle at sixteen if

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Speaker 2: they wanted, But maybe they're apt to move down and

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Speaker 2: you can get on the horn with them and do something.

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Speaker 2: It'll be interesting, for sure. We're gonna talk more about

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Speaker 2: the draft in hour number two with our good friend

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Speaker 2: Greg co Sels and you're producer from NFL Films as

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Speaker 2: we talk edge rushers with him. Next on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: presented by a Lot of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 3: This this One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 1: Here we are our number two on a Friday, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker One Bill's Live and joined once more prior

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Speaker 1: to the draft by a senior producer from NFL Films,

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Speaker 1: Greg Cosell, As we dive in to the edge rushing group,

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Speaker 1: knowing that, well, if the receiver value gets blown up

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Speaker 1: in round one for the Bills, edge rusher could be

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Speaker 1: a consideration, Greg, how we do it?

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Speaker 7: We're doing great. You know, I've started to actually think

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Speaker 7: I don't normally do this, Brownie. I started to think about,

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Speaker 7: you know, guys who are gonna go early, and how

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Speaker 7: the draft might play out. Normally, I just love the

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Speaker 7: process of watching players. You guys know, I don't do

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Speaker 7: mocks and I don't make lists. But I think it's

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Speaker 7: very possible that's seven of the first ten players are

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Speaker 7: going to be quarterbacks and wide receivers, don't you think.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's a big question.

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Speaker 4: It could It could be a record setting season for

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Speaker 4: wideouts in the first round. Quarterbacks in the first round.

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Speaker 7: All of that that's going to push people back, you know,

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Speaker 7: so it makes her I think after you get sort

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Speaker 7: of past the tenth pick, it gets really really.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the top ten is gonna have a lot to

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Speaker 2: say about what happens later in terms of position, runs

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Speaker 2: and everything else. But let's dive into some of these

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Speaker 2: edge prospects here. We'll begin with Jared Vers, the Florida

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Speaker 2: State kid, first team All ACC nine sacks season last year.

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Speaker 2: What would you call his strengths greg power.

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Speaker 7: He is a first step, explosive power edge player who's

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Speaker 7: better in a three point stance than he is standing up.

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Speaker 7: When he stands up, he has false steps and wasted

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Speaker 7: motion when his hands in the ground. He comes off

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Speaker 7: the ball, no false steps, and he's really explosive. He

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Speaker 7: attacks the edge. He's a speed to power guy. He's purposeful.

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Speaker 7: I think he has a plan because all he has

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Speaker 7: to do is get them out of phase, get an

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Speaker 7: offensive tackle out of phase just a little bit, get

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Speaker 7: them off balanced just enough, and then he executes that

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Speaker 7: speed to power. And he does not need a long

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Speaker 7: runway to generate power. He can do it, and it

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Speaker 7: can find amount of space and that's a really important

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Speaker 7: trait to have. But his game is built on power.

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Speaker 4: And so you think a power guy like that would

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Speaker 4: be just as good in the run as the pass rush.

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Speaker 7: I think there's there's a run element to his game

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Speaker 7: for sure, Steve. I mean, I think he's got the strength,

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Speaker 7: he's got the hand quickness to playoff contact in the

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Speaker 7: run game and make plays. He's quick in a short area.

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Speaker 7: But obviously the pass rush is what he is. And

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Speaker 7: you talk to offensive linemen and they will tell you

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Speaker 7: if they feel they can be beaten by speed to power,

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Speaker 7: it clearly changes the way they pass set.

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Speaker 2: And then just watching him a little bit myself, Greg

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Speaker 2: the one, there are a couple of moves that kind

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Speaker 2: of caught my eye. He's got a swim move that

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Speaker 2: seems to be effective for him, and he's also got

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Speaker 2: that stack and pull through move where he kind of

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Speaker 2: grabs the jersey of the tackle and he just pulls

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Speaker 2: himself through. Yeah, that seemed to be two of the

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Speaker 2: ones he likes to turn to the most. How varied

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Speaker 2: would you say his repertoire is.

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Speaker 7: I wouldn't say it's extremely varied, you know, And I

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Speaker 7: think you can always work on that, but I think

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Speaker 7: the power element as the starting point is a better

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Speaker 7: element to start with than the guys who are, you know,

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Speaker 7: just bendy and work off the edge. Because again, I

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Speaker 7: was fortunate enough last year to go to the O

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Speaker 7: Line Masterminds event and with Duke Mannyweather down in Texas

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Speaker 7: and you hear all these offensive tackles talk about how

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Speaker 7: they are more concerned about the speed to power guys

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Speaker 7: right off the bat because it just changes things for

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Speaker 7: them if they know they can be physically beaten. The

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Speaker 7: guys who are a little bit of the dancers, who

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Speaker 7: are the quicker guys, they always feel that that they

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Speaker 7: can handle, but the speed to power is harder.

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Speaker 4: So as you talk about the rest of these guys,

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Speaker 4: one of the more intriguing guys out there is a

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Speaker 4: highly talented guy out of UCLA Laatu Latu. He seems

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Speaker 4: to me, and I was saying this just in the

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Speaker 4: last segment when we had Maddie on, if he was

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Speaker 4: five to nine, he'd still be a really good looking athlete, right,

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, but he's got the neck injury. And once

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Speaker 4: you set aside the history of maybe what happened with

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Speaker 4: he retired once because of a neck injury. Now he's

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Speaker 4: back and he's played extremely well. How good can he

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Speaker 4: be on the upside?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I obviously can't speak to the medical, you know, being

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Speaker 7: a doctor, although I have spoken to some gms who

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Speaker 7: say that it's possible that he might not be on

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Speaker 7: twelve or fifteen draft boards because of the injury.

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Speaker 3: So we don't know that.

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Speaker 7: But let's just evaluate the player for me, and again

1023
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Speaker 7: not making a list, but I was most intrigued by him.

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Speaker 7: I think you're dealing with a guy that can bend.

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Speaker 7: I think he's got enough power, not as power powerful verse,

1026
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Speaker 7: but enough power. And I got to tell you, I

1027
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Speaker 7: thought that for a college pass rusher, he had a

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Speaker 7: lot of tools in the toolbox. He was the most

1029
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Speaker 7: refined in terms of his moves, his hand usage. He's

1030
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Speaker 7: relentlessly competitive. To me, he was the overall number one

1031
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Speaker 7: edge pass rusher. And I'm gonna say something now, and

1032
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Speaker 7: I want people to understand what I'm about to say.

1033
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Speaker 7: I'm going to compare him to someone who I'm comparing

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Speaker 7: him to when this player came out of college. Because

1035
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Speaker 7: the player I'm going to compare him to is arguably

1036
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Speaker 7: a top three pass rusher in the league. Some might

1037
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Speaker 7: think he's the best pass rusher in the league, but

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Speaker 7: he reminded me of TJ. Watt when Watt came out

1039
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Speaker 7: of Wisconsin and a lot too. They're about the same

1040
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Speaker 7: size in terms of, you know, dimensionally, and they're very

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Speaker 7: similar to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And the thing about him that you don't always

1043
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Speaker 2: see with pass rushers is he's an anticipatory player. Because

1044
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Speaker 2: there'll be times where he'll be on the rush and

1045
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Speaker 2: he'll see something in the backfield or he'll realize he's

1046
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Speaker 2: not gonna get there. He'll actually stop his rush, get

1047
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Speaker 2: into the passing lane and bad a pass down instead.

1048
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Speaker 2: I mean he had two interceptions last year too.

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Speaker 7: Yeah. No, he's he's a really good player. I mean

1050
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Speaker 7: he's got size, he's got length. You know, he's explosive.

1051
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Speaker 7: As I said, he's advanced and refined with his hand usage,

1052
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Speaker 7: multiple moves in his arsenal. They dropped him into coverage

1053
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Speaker 7: quite a bit. As you just said, Brownie, I mean,

1054
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Speaker 7: this guy's a really, really good athlete. To me, other

1055
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Speaker 7: than perhaps not being super powerful, I don't know if

1056
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Speaker 7: he had a defined weakness where he said, man, he

1057
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Speaker 7: just can't do this at all, you know, power. Like

1058
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Speaker 7: I said, he's certainly not the most powerful guy, but

1059
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Speaker 7: I wouldn't view that as a weakness.

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Speaker 4: So is he more comfortable and I know you compared

1061
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Speaker 4: him to different guys in the league. Is he more comfortable?

1062
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Speaker 4: Is hand off the ground or in a three point

1063
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Speaker 4: would it be okay in a four to three defensive end?

1064
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Speaker 3: Or is he needs a stand up guy more of

1065
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Speaker 3: a stand.

1066
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Speaker 7: Up guys his game more? Again, I'm not sure you

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Speaker 7: know with his hand on the ground how comfortable he is.

1068
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Speaker 7: I don't know the answer to that, but he stann

1069
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Speaker 7: He really stood up a lot at UCLA.

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Speaker 2: All right. Next guy on the list is probably the

1071
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Speaker 2: ferrari of the group, Chop Robinson, who pretty much blew

1072
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Speaker 2: up Lucas Oil Stadium with his workout. As anticipated. Guy's

1073
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Speaker 2: all about speed.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, he's currently the most sudden and explosive

1075
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Speaker 7: of all these guys at this point. That's his game.

1076
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Speaker 7: I don't know if he has a lot more to

1077
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Speaker 7: his game at this point. I made the point that

1078
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Speaker 7: he needs to develop a much wider array of moves

1079
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Speaker 7: encounters to become a higher level pass rusher at the

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Speaker 7: next level. But to me, and I don't know, if

1081
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Speaker 7: this fits the bills. He's a guy you'd want to

1082
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Speaker 7: move around. You know, obviously he's an edge player at

1083
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Speaker 7: his core, but you get to third down, you want

1084
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Speaker 7: to move him around. You want to make him a

1085
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Speaker 7: stand up joker. You want to give him a runway

1086
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Speaker 7: to use that speed in velocity. He's a guy to

1087
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Speaker 7: me that you know, that's what you'd want to do

1088
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Speaker 7: with him. He's nowhere near as powerful as Micah Parsons,

1089
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Speaker 7: but in a sense you'd want to use him like that,

1090
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Speaker 7: where you line him up in different places in those

1091
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 7: past rushing situations as opposed to just putting him on

1092
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 7: the edge with his hand in.

1093
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 2: The ground and just real quick Greg Because some people

1094
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 2: look at him and say, oh, well he's not very big.

1095
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 2: Is he a better fit as a three to four

1096
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 2: outside linebacker? But he's not really long enough to do

1097
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 2: that right.

1098
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 7: Well, I mean his arm length is not long. That's

1099
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 7: you know, people do look at arm length. I find

1100
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 7: that out more and more each year. I mean, he's

1101
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 7: six three, two fifty four. He's not a little guy,

1102
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 7: and obviously he's got tremendous athletic testing measurables, but no,

1103
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 7: his arm length isn't long. I don't know, you know

1104
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 7: that that's that'd be a really interesting question uestion for

1105
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 7: a you know, d line slash linebacker coach whether he

1106
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 7: could be a stand up linebacker. I mean, he's not

1107
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 7: an off the ball linebacker, if that's what you're asking.

1108
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 7: But he's not that for sure.

1109
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 4: And let's go on to a defensive end prospect, Darius

1110
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 4: Robinson out of Missouri. He was he was another first

1111
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 4: team All SEC had, you know, fourteen tackles for lost

1112
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 4: eight and a half sacks. What are your thoughts on

1113
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 4: on Darius Robinson?

1114
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, I really like this kid, Steve. You know, you

1115
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 7: played just a few years ago. Obviously, back in the

1116
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 7: day when think of the old school strongside dns in

1117
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 7: a four to three, you know that would line up

1118
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 7: over the tight end. This guy, if he was playing

1119
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 7: back then, this guy would be the poster child for that.

1120
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 7: This guy's game is he's got tremendous length and mass

1121
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 7: throughout his body. His game reflects those attributes. He's got

1122
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:55,760
Speaker 7: really strong hands, strong grip, arm extension, he locks out,

1123
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 7: he sets the edge. I think he'll develop more as

1124
01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 7: a pass rusher the more he plays. I really like

1125
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 7: Darius Robinson a lot. I mean, you don't see a

1126
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 7: lot of six five two eighty five d ns these days.

1127
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 7: Tremendous arm leanth really, you know, you wouldn't call a

1128
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 7: guy that big sudden, but he's a very good athlete

1129
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 7: for his size. I mean, those guys that big, you

1130
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 7: can always say they're a little stiff and tight, but

1131
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 7: it's just they're they're very big. You know, guys like

1132
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 7: that are not gonna look like and move like Chop Robinson.

1133
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 7: So you know this guy the more I watched him,

1134
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 7: and I think he's the kind of guy you have

1135
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 7: to keep watching because he's not gonna make those dynamic, spectacular,

1136
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 7: explosive plays where you go, oh my god, look at that.

1137
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 7: But you keep watching him and watching him and watching

1138
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 7: him and snap after snap after snap. He's just a

1139
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 7: really good player.

1140
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't know, like I body type wise,

1141
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 2: he looks like Jadavion Clowney.

1142
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 7: Well, he's bigger than Jadavion Clowney.

1143
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 3: Is he is?

1144
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 7: He Okay wow, but he's Bowney was two seventy. He's

1145
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 7: he's almost the exact same measurables as Cam Jordan when

1146
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 7: he came in a case Okay, Jordan might have been

1147
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 7: just a little quicker, naturally quicker. But Robinson's measurables are

1148
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 7: almost exactly the same as Cam Jordan's.

1149
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I would say, and maybe this is because

1150
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 2: he's not super explosive, being you know, two hundred and

1151
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 2: eighty something pounds. But I like how when he has

1152
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 2: the play, when the play's there to be made. You know,

1153
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 2: you see so many edge rushers blow by the quarterback

1154
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 2: or with or with on the ball carrier. I don't

1155
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 2: see that with him nearly as much as you do

1156
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 2: with some other players in this class.

1157
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's, like I said, I just think he's a

1158
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 7: really good player. I think he's solid, fishing, consistent. He

1159
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:50,880
Speaker 7: may not be the kind of guy, certainly early in

1160
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 7: his career that gets, you know, twelve or thirteen sacks.

1161
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 7: Could he develop into that, possibly, But I also think

1162
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 7: he'll be the kind of guy you could up year

1163
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 7: one and he'd play meaningful snaps and be good at

1164
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 7: what he's asked to do.

1165
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going down. Let's talk about edge prospect.

1166
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 4: Austin Booker out of Kansas Brownie likes this guy.

1167
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1168
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 7: I went back and forth on him as I kept

1169
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 7: watching him, I mean, the guy hasn't played a lot

1170
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 7: of football.

1171
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 3: That's the thing.

1172
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 7: He only played five hundred and five snaps in his

1173
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 7: entire career at Kansas. So so what you have to

1174
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 7: assess is not what he is now, but what you

1175
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 7: think he can become. So he is, he's a classic

1176
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,960
Speaker 7: projection that which is mostly what the draft is. But

1177
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 7: some guys, you know, they play a lot. He has

1178
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:41,919
Speaker 7: not played a lot of football. He's long, He's got

1179
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 7: plus athleticism and movement. He shows in flashes both as

1180
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 7: a run defender and pass rusher. It's in his body

1181
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 7: to become a quality edge pass rusher. It's not there yet.

1182
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 7: You know, right now he lacks play strength. Can he

1183
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 7: gain weight? It looks like when you watch him that

1184
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,919
Speaker 7: he has room in his body to gain some weight

1185
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,439
Speaker 7: and ideal he doesn't lose the quickness that he has.

1186
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 7: But right now he's not a strong player. I think

1187
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 7: he was two forty at the combine and that's you know,

1188
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 7: obviously he needs to get bigger than that because at

1189
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:17,439
Speaker 7: two forty he'd have to be a stand up guy,

1190
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 7: not a hand in the ground guy. I think that

1191
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 7: he showed enough flashes on tape where you believe that

1192
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 7: he could develop into a quality edge player at the

1193
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 7: next level. I wouldn't say that's a certainty though, So

1194
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:33,800
Speaker 7: I think he's a clear case of projecting what you

1195
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 7: think a player could become.

1196
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's got tools, but there's some development that

1197
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 2: has to happen there. So that probably puts him like

1198
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 2: late day two, early day three. That's probably where.

1199
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 7: I mean, what, Brownie, when was the last time there

1200
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 7: was a guy coming out that's being talked about that

1201
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:54,680
Speaker 7: played five hundred snaps in college?

1202
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 3: Right?

1203
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? But I mean Greg Russell was only a one

1204
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 2: year starter and he was a first round pick.

1205
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 7: Yeah. But the thing is is that Booker, he was

1206
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,920
Speaker 7: a one year s daughter, but he played football. Bookers

1207
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 7: only played five hundred snaps.

1208
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:15,000
Speaker 4: Rights, That is like a training camp back in the day.

1209
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 3: You know.

1210
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 7: That we'll say, hey, he's one of those guys. Maybe

1211
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 7: in three years we'll be saying he's a great player, Brownie.

1212
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 7: You know, that's the thing that's Those are the kinds

1213
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:29,120
Speaker 7: of decisions that people with much larger investment portfolios than

1214
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 7: me will have to make.

1215
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that the guys like Austin Booker, you're talking

1216
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 4: about maybe a fourth round or fifth rounder for him.

1217
01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 7: Right, Well, again, if you feel really confident based on

1218
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,800
Speaker 7: the kid, based on studying everything about him doing the

1219
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:45,959
Speaker 7: kind of due diligence Steve that I can't do because

1220
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 7: I don't work for a team, and you feel really

1221
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 7: really good, you could see him as a Day two

1222
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 7: pick for sure, because really really good might mean he

1223
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:57,959
Speaker 7: could become a really explosive pass rusher.

1224
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:01,360
Speaker 4: Like what kind of what kind of uh pro player

1225
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:04,960
Speaker 4: would he his game be similar to?

1226
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 7: Well, he's certainly not as bendy and as flexible as

1227
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 7: Brian Burns who just signed with the Giants, but in

1228
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 7: terms of just kind of the length, you know, And

1229
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 7: again that's not a direct apples to apples comparison. And

1230
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 7: I didn't know you were gonna answer me that, So

1231
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 7: I do want people to think, you know, that just

1232
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 7: popped into my head. But I think you're talking about

1233
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 7: a long, leaner guy that ideally can bend but also

1234
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 7: has some explosiveness in his body.

1235
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 2: Right, I know he wasn't on our list.

1236
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 3: Greg.

1237
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 2: Did you see Chris Braswell, the Alabama kid?

1238
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 1: Oh?

1239
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:38,640
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah?

1240
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 2: So what what do you what do you make of him?

1241
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 2: And how do you avoid falling into traps of you know,

1242
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 2: looking at his older tape and knowing he's on the

1243
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:50,560
Speaker 2: other side of a guy that was a top five

1244
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 2: pick and that kind of stuff. And then ultimately, where

1245
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 2: do you come down on him, knowing you know he

1246
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 2: had a he had a teammate in Dallas Turner on

1247
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 2: the other side, how do you kind of gauge his

1248
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:03,320
Speaker 2: productivity and ability?

1249
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 7: Ultimately, you know, Brownie not relevant to me. I'm looking

1250
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 7: at the player, but I think he's a lower case

1251
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 7: Jared Verse. I think his game is built on power.

1252
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:18,040
Speaker 7: I thought he got better as the year progressed. His

1253
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 7: speed to power conversion is really good. And he challenged

1254
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 7: the high side. He threatened the edge, and then he

1255
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 7: would drive right into o tackles with velocity, explosive power,

1256
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 7: explosive closing burst to the quarterback, set the edge. The

1257
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:37,959
Speaker 7: guy who in some ways he reminded me of it again.

1258
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 7: Now I'm going back a few years, but you know,

1259
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 7: I've been doing this a long time. The guy I'm

1260
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 7: about to mention, wait a little more. Coming out of college.

1261
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 7: He was a small school guy, but he's developed into

1262
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 7: one of the better pass rushers in the league. He

1263
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 7: reminded me of Matthew Judon coming out of Grand Valley State,

1264
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 7: who is a fifth round pick.

1265
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. To me, I feel like if he develops a

1266
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 2: pass rush arsenal, he could be a really productive player.

1267
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 2: I think that's I agree, that's the thing that's missing

1268
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 2: for him. He's got to get an arsenery.

1269
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,040
Speaker 7: And it's funny you say that because I said that

1270
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 7: he needs to develop a wide array of pass rush

1271
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 7: moves and counters to become a truly effective edge pass

1272
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,639
Speaker 7: rusher in the league. But again, you're starting with power,

1273
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 7: and the guy's improved every year. He was a fun

1274
01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:27,719
Speaker 7: guy to watch. I think he'll he'll play in the league.

1275
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,600
Speaker 7: The question is what will he become? Another guy you

1276
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 7: sort of have to project in your mind, you know,

1277
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 7: based on your your due diligence, what do you think

1278
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 7: he can become? But I liked his tape.

1279
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, so we're probably not gonna get a chance

1280
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 4: to talk to you because the draft is gonna happen

1281
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 4: on Thursday of this next week, and this will probably

1282
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,759
Speaker 4: be our last chance to touch base with you before

1283
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 4: that happens. So I'm just gonna ask you, So you've

1284
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 4: looked at a gazillion guys in this draft.

1285
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 3: Two things.

1286
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 4: One, give this draft class a grade at the top

1287
01:08:58,200 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 4: and pick your guy.

1288
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 7: Well, I think that it's a wide receiver and offensive

1289
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:09,880
Speaker 7: tackle draft in terms of probably the most depth. And

1290
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 7: then if I had to pick a guy that I

1291
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:15,439
Speaker 7: really really like, and again I don't know where he's

1292
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 7: gonna get drafted, I believe he'll be a first round pick.

1293
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,719
Speaker 7: But I really like Byron Murphy to dtackle from Texas.

1294
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 7: I just love this guy. To me, is just a

1295
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 7: really really good prospect. And that's just a name because Steve,

1296
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 7: I didn't know what you're gonna ask me, So I'm

1297
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 7: sure if I started looking at a list, but we

1298
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,439
Speaker 7: don't have that kind of time, there'd be plenty of

1299
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 7: others that stood out to me. But he's just a

1300
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 7: guy that I just think he's going to be a

1301
01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 7: really really good player. Like to me, he's a and

1302
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 7: not to say anything negative here about a Buffalo player,

1303
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 7: but he's just a better at Oliver, Like he's just

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01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 7: that kind of you know, he weighs a little more,

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Speaker 7: but he's that kind of player, you know, with the explosiveness,

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01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 7: you know, but I just think he's got better overall. Traits.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody that big shouldn't be that, but he is.

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Speaker 7: Oh my god, and so I mean you see him

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01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:05,680
Speaker 7: take on double teams, the way he just kind of

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01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 7: gets down on all fours and then still makes plays,

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01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 7: still makes the tackle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing. Greg. Thanks as always, we will catch

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Speaker 2: up with you. Appreciate all the insight on the players.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you probably gave yourself a to dualist for

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01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 2: about twenty more guys you want to get to before

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Speaker 2: the draft.

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Speaker 7: So oh, I'm grinding here, grinding.

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Speaker 2: Good luck getting through your lists.

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Speaker 7: All right, Thanks, guys, really appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: That's great. Co Sales, senior producer from NFL Films joining

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Speaker 2: us going through the edge rushing class. You know, there's

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01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 2: some names there. There is a steeper drop off based

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Speaker 2: on a lot of the draft gurus we've had on

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Speaker 2: the show. There may only be three or four guys

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Speaker 2: that go in round one, perhaps five if there's a

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Speaker 2: run late in the round, you know, maybe a lot too.

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Speaker 2: Robinson and Chop Robinson and Darius Robinson going the last

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01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 2: ten picks of the round, twelve picks in the round.

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Speaker 2: That could happen, you know, But Jared Versus and Dallas

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01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 2: Turner are probably the only guys that are going to

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01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:05,719
Speaker 2: see the top half of the round.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's there's always a spot for a pass rusher.

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Speaker 4: It's one of those money positions. But he's Greag's right.

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01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 4: Offensive tackles and wide receivers are going to dominate this

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01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 4: draft as guys who are going to be immediate guys.

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01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,559
Speaker 4: And quarterbacks they always take a minute, right at least

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01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 4: even this last year's draft.

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Speaker 3: I mean c J.

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Speaker 4: Stroud was an anomaly coming out and leading his team

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01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 4: to the playoffs as a rookie. So even though the

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01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 4: quarterbacks kind of headline it like they always do, this

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01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:37,639
Speaker 4: is an offensive This is a draft about offensive linemen

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01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 4: and wide outs. But if you if you're in a

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01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 4: spot with a team where you kind of set, you

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01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,520
Speaker 4: could get a guy that could make a difference defensively

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01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:47,679
Speaker 4: for you at the edge.

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Speaker 2: We are going to step aside here, but when we

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01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 2: come back, we're ready to take your phone calls. Any

1350
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:55,679
Speaker 2: questions you might have in the OBL Friday fan mail

1351
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 2: bag about the draft, about a prospect, about the Bills

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01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 2: pick total, what they might do with it, or about

1353
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:04,639
Speaker 2: the NFL at large, whatever's on your mind. Fire away

1354
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 2: or hit us up on the tweet sheet next year.

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Speaker 2: On one Bill's Live, presented by a Lot of Health,

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: All right back here, I want to go live, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, obl Friday fan mailbag is open as we

1359
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: are ready to take some of your questions, so we

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Speaker 1: go to the phones and leading us off today is

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Speaker 1: Ryan in Toronto.

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 9: Brand scheme?

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01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 10: I love this show? Well, I have a take. I

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01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,439
Speaker 10: want to hear your talks on it. I mean you

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01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:36,360
Speaker 10: may have liked it, but based on Benn and Bee's

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01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 10: history of drafting, he has not drafted a wide receiver

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Speaker 10: in the first two rounds. Ever, Secondly, moving up to

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Speaker 10: get a wide receiver, I think you may lose a

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Speaker 10: lot of capital. And thirdly, I think by sticking to

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Speaker 10: being at number twenty eight, I think you get more

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01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:56,040
Speaker 10: bang for the buck the defensive player instead of a

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Speaker 10: wide receiver. I would just want to hear talks on it.

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Speaker 4: You may be right, you may be exactly right, Ryan.

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01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 4: By the time it gets back to twenty eight, if

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01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 4: indeed the Bills are forced to stay at twenty eight,

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01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 4: the best player on the board might be the best

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01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 4: three players on the board may all be defenders. You're right,

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01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 4: and it is going to be expensive if they move up,

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Speaker 4: particularly the further they move up, the more outlandishly expensive

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Speaker 4: it's going to be.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be expensive.

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01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 4: I agree with you, and I will say this though

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01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 4: I don't really agree with you that it's a philosophical

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01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:31,479
Speaker 4: choice that he doesn't ever draft a wide receiver in

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01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:34,680
Speaker 4: the first or second round. I think that's more happenstance

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01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 4: since he's been here. They traded for Diggs, they had

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01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:44,600
Speaker 4: their guy, and everything that was around him was ancilliary,

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01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 4: so they didn't really need to throw a lot of

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01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 4: capital at the wide receiver position once they traded for

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Speaker 4: Steph Diggs, So for four years they've had a guy,

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Speaker 4: and they also drafted Gabe Davis, who they loved and

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01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 4: didn't want to lose, so they were more pat there

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Speaker 4: over the last three years, and in the first three

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Speaker 4: years of his tenure here, before he got Gabe Davis

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01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:05,400
Speaker 4: and Stephan those guys, they had multiple other needs that

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01:14:05,439 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 4: were way the way out stripped getting a first round

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01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 4: wide out. So while yes, you're right, it's gonna be

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01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 4: very expensive to move up. The only the only way

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Speaker 4: I think they'll do that is if there's a guy

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01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 4: they covet. I mean they they think he's a difference maker,

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01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:25,840
Speaker 4: and they're not gonna be able to sit at twenty

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01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:26,799
Speaker 4: eight and get him.

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01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 3: That's the only way I think they'll move.

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01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 2: I think he is right though, it's too costly to go.

1406
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 4: On, too costly to go to the top ten. Absolutely,

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01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 4: you're right, Ryan, and I would agree with you on

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01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 4: the second two points of it. There might be not

1409
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 4: just one the best defensive player on the board left

1410
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 4: when they get to twenty eight. If they're still there,

1411
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 4: it may be three defensive players, not just one by

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01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 4: that time.

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01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:56,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they're already talking about how this year's first

1414
01:14:56,320 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 2: round is expected to break the record. Nineteen is the

1415
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 2: highest number of offensive players ever taken in Round one

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01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:07,360
Speaker 2: of any NFL draft, and they are expecting this year's

1417
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,599
Speaker 2: class to shatter that due in part to the strong

1418
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 2: offensive tackle class, the strong receiver class, and the strong

1419
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:17,200
Speaker 2: quarterback class, all offensive players. And you have one of

1420
01:15:17,240 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 2: the best tight ends this year in Brock Bauers, who's

1421
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:22,599
Speaker 2: going to be a first round pick as well. That's

1422
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:27,320
Speaker 2: another offensive player. So yeah, it's gonna be a lot

1423
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 2: of offense early in this draft, and that may carry

1424
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 2: through into the twenties. So we'll have to wait and see.

1425
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:38,640
Speaker 2: We go to Andy and Tanawanda next. What's up Andy?

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Speaker 8: Hi, gentlemen, I have a question for Steve. Steve, if

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01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 8: we say it the twenty eighth pick, like you're saying

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01:15:50,080 --> 01:15:53,640
Speaker 8: some of the receivers there's a big run, would it

1429
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 8: be possible? What is your feelings on this middle linebacker Wilson.

1430
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 8: I believe his name is. They say, uh, they compare

1431
01:16:05,120 --> 01:16:11,799
Speaker 8: him to like a Keighley who was a ninth overall

1432
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:17,720
Speaker 8: pick for Carolina, And I just wondered if the only

1433
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:21,720
Speaker 8: thing is I guess he's hit some injuries already Wilson. Yeah, yes,

1434
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 8: sickly sure, but I'll hang up and listen.

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01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, Peyton Wilson if he's if he is the player

1436
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 4: that Luke Keickley was from the neck up, I don't

1437
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 4: care what his physicality is, that he'll be able to play.

1438
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:38,400
Speaker 4: Luke Keigley was above the board. Uh, not only physically,

1439
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 4: but mentally. That's that's where his real genius was, was

1440
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:43,759
Speaker 4: the fact that he knew what was coming.

1441
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 7: Uh.

1442
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:48,639
Speaker 4: Certainly, Peyton Wilson is a fast dude. He can scoot

1443
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 4: and he's that kind of player, and he may be

1444
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 4: he In fact, I'll tell you this, he will be

1445
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 4: on the board when the Bills pick at twenty eight.

1446
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:58,599
Speaker 3: I don't know what the Bills think about him.

1447
01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 4: I don't know that they're in the market that I

1448
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 4: think they're very happy with Terrell Bernard and Matt Mulano. Now,

1449
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 4: maybe they're a little skittish about Milano's return and maybe

1450
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 4: they do want to bolster that, but they also have

1451
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:12,759
Speaker 4: Dorian Williams, who is also a supreme athlete.

1452
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:15,759
Speaker 2: Now, I'll just say, as much as I love Edrian Cooper,

1453
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 2: who's the linebacker from Texas A and M, I love

1454
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 2: Peyton Wilson an eyelash less than him an eyelash because

1455
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 2: this guy is six ' four two thirty three, ran

1456
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:30,320
Speaker 2: a four to four three tested out of the gym

1457
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,680
Speaker 2: because I think his vertical was I think it might

1458
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 2: have been forty or something. I'll have to check. But

1459
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 2: he is a playmaker in every sense of the word.

1460
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:43,440
Speaker 2: The problem is the injury history. He had an ACL

1461
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 2: and he had a shoulder injury that required surgery, So

1462
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 2: there's a history there and he's missed time but this

1463
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:54,600
Speaker 2: is a guy who was a team captain. This is

1464
01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:58,639
Speaker 2: a guy who had unbelievable production last season in all

1465
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 2: twelve starts. In starts, he had one hundred and thirty

1466
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 2: eight tackles, seventeen and a half for loss at a

1467
01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 2: linebacker position, and nine pass breakups and three interceptions. I mean,

1468
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 2: he's all over the field. Wherever the ball is, he

1469
01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 2: is usually there, and he's got a little attitude to

1470
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 2: go with it. He drops people and then tells him

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Speaker 2: how much he owns them.

1472
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, he sees it. When it happens on the field,

1473
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 4: he sees it, and that's you know.

1474
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 2: But because of the injury history, a lot of people

1475
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 2: see him as a second round pick. I would expect

1476
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 2: him to be off the board top half second round.

1477
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 2: He's too physically gifted and has a big body of

1478
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 2: work that I don't think he lasts passed the middle

1479
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:42,040
Speaker 2: of round two. So let's go to Steve in Iowa next.

1480
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:42,679
Speaker 2: What's up Steve?

1481
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 11: My fellows love the show, Thanks for taking my call.

1482
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 11: Ryan kind of stole my thunder a little bit, so

1483
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:54,679
Speaker 11: I'll add level of tad. I think the most valuable

1484
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 11: thing that we have is the draft capital. So I'm

1485
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,679
Speaker 11: a little bit in favor of trading down and collecting

1486
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 11: his mind, which as we can in the second round

1487
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:05,599
Speaker 11: or maybe a lower first round. And I also think

1488
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 11: that it would be beneficial for the Bills to be

1489
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:13,160
Speaker 11: looking at defensive an offensive lineman or a defensive player

1490
01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 11: in general. And one of the reasons I say is

1491
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 11: because I'm playing off of Bean's comments the other day

1492
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 11: where he and I understand this could be a smoke screen,

1493
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 11: but he seemed to indicate they were set with the

1494
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:28,080
Speaker 11: receivers at least, you know, you wanted to give that impression.

1495
01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 11: So I don't know, I think you got to win

1496
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 11: with the big uglies.

1497
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:34,559
Speaker 2: What do you guys think, Yeah, they need a receiver.

1498
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Steve, I wasn't buying that for a second.

1499
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 2: I know what Brandon Bean's trying to do yesterday and

1500
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:44,440
Speaker 2: trying to make it sound like it's not an absolute

1501
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 2: that they have to get a receiver. If they don't

1502
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 2: get a receiver with one of their first two picks

1503
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:52,800
Speaker 2: they've got, they're shorthanded. I'm sorry, that's just the way

1504
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 2: I see it. I can't imagine they see it any differently.

1505
01:19:56,920 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 2: They just threw one hundred catch a year received or

1506
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 2: off the roster in a trade, and their number two

1507
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:08,759
Speaker 2: guy is in Jacksonville. The only guy that caught passes

1508
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 2: from Josh Allen who's on the roster right now at

1509
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 2: the receiver position is Khalil Shakir. That's it. They have

1510
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 2: to get a receiver. You can talk big uglies all

1511
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 2: you want. You don't have anybody to catch the football

1512
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 2: and make plays for you when you need one. You

1513
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:27,360
Speaker 2: got a problem. Now, Look, do they need defensive line help? Yes,

1514
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 2: they do. So you want to talk about the trenches there,

1515
01:20:29,439 --> 01:20:33,240
Speaker 2: I'll listen to that. I'll also listen to trading back

1516
01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 2: at twenty eight under this condition. We've been talking for

1517
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 2: most of the show today about receiver value getting blown

1518
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 2: up and blown up early. I mean the more the buzz.

1519
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 2: The latest buzz with less than a week to go

1520
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 2: before the draft is the top three receivers could be

1521
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 2: gone by pick eight or nine, which you know is far.

1522
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 2: It's totally realistic. I mean, we talked about those three

1523
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 2: guys going to the top ten anyway, so it doesn't

1524
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 2: matter where they go. But the fear is that that

1525
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 2: accelerates the value of Brian Thomas, who then goes earlier

1526
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 2: as well, presumably somewhere in the top fifteen, and now

1527
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 2: you're down to Ady Mitchell and you're still thirteen picks away.

1528
01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 2: So under that scenario where the receiver value has been

1529
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 2: blown to smithereens, I am all for trading back and

1530
01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 2: getting somebody in the next tier of receivers, and heck,

1531
01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 2: maybe taking a second swing at sixty at a receiver

1532
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 2: if you want to get a defensive lineman. Okay, I'll

1533
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 2: listen to that. But yeah, your receiver value it's blown

1534
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 2: to smithereens.

1535
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:40,040
Speaker 3: In round one.

1536
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:41,960
Speaker 2: I'm all for trading back in round one to round

1537
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 2: two and picking up a third. Now you got three

1538
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:45,200
Speaker 2: picks on day two.

1539
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 4: As much as we say we you know, we're okay

1540
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 4: with the best player on the board. But it's here's

1541
01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 4: the thing.

1542
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:51,000
Speaker 3: The Bills.

1543
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:53,120
Speaker 4: They've got guys on the roster, real question. They got

1544
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:57,879
Speaker 4: Curtis Samuel, they got mac Hollins, they got Khalis Shakir

1545
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 4: and of course Cook and Kinka. But you know, you're

1546
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:02,679
Speaker 4: talking about a team that had three hundred and eighty

1547
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 4: five of the three hundred and eighty five completions they

1548
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:10,760
Speaker 4: had last year, one hundred and ninety five of them

1549
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 4: are out the door with Gabe Davis, Stefan Diggs, Latavious Murray,

1550
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 4: Deontay Hardy, Transurefield, all these guys, they're all out the door.

1551
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 4: So it's hard to go into a season with. Like

1552
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:31,360
Speaker 4: Brownie said, that's the biggest glaring thing about it is that, Yeah,

1553
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 4: you've got some guys that have played Curtis Samuel, Sure,

1554
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:36,040
Speaker 4: matc Collins, Okay, but none of them have caught a

1555
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 4: ball for the Buffalo Bills. And the guys that you've

1556
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,679
Speaker 4: got in the house with, you know, Shorter and and

1557
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 4: you know the rest, you have the even they can't

1558
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 4: get on the field either. They have been able to

1559
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:54,840
Speaker 4: get on the field. So it's it gives you there's

1560
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 4: nothing to expect from that group, right, There's nothing you

1561
01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 4: can depend on. Certainly, they may answer all the questions

1562
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 4: to say, wow, we didn't know you guys knew something

1563
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 4: we didn't.

1564
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 3: Okay, doesn't look like.

1565
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 2: That, right, Yeah, it's different. There's no question it's different.

1566
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:13,400
Speaker 2: Let's go to Luke in Silver Creek next. Let me

1567
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 2: punch him up here. Hang on, what's up Luke?

1568
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 9: Hey, fellows that we doing good. So when thinking about

1569
01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 9: the receivers with this class that the Bills have to

1570
01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 9: potentially draft, you know, in the first round, in the

1571
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 9: second round. I've been trying to wrap my head around,

1572
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 9: like what type of guy or what qualities that the

1573
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 9: team is looking for, what Brandon Bean's looking for. I

1574
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:38,559
Speaker 9: think Josh Allen gave us some insight in his press

1575
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 9: conference yesterday when he said that last year he reached

1576
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 9: out to being during the draft and said Dalton in

1577
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:47,760
Speaker 9: Kaid and a thing that Dalton was known for coming

1578
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 9: out of Utah was just sure handed us, you know,

1579
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:53,559
Speaker 9: a very natural catcher of the football. So that being said,

1580
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 9: I wanted to get y'all thoughts on who of the

1581
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 9: guys that the Bills could potentially draft do you think

1582
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 9: have very good, sure natural catching abilities.

1583
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:07,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. I would say ad Mitchell falls into that category.

1584
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:12,839
Speaker 2: Had one drop last year. His catch rate is somewhere

1585
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 2: in the nineties last year and for his college career,

1586
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:21,800
Speaker 2: I think it's ninety three percent is his catch rate. Now,

1587
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 2: obviously the windows are smaller, there are more contested passes

1588
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:29,320
Speaker 2: in the NFL, so that would presumably go down, But

1589
01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:32,920
Speaker 2: they did prioritize that when they drafted Khalil Shakir late.

1590
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 2: He was one of the best catch rate players in

1591
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 2: the league last year. They prioritized that with Dalton kincaid.

1592
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:42,480
Speaker 2: It's about offensive efficiency. I mean, let's not kid ourselves.

1593
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:45,760
Speaker 2: Ad Mitchell falls into that category. I believe McConkey is

1594
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 2: in that category as well. And I know the Washington

1595
01:24:50,320 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 2: receiver Jalen Polk very sure handed. He's probably a second

1596
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 2: round pick, you know, if the Bills don't get a

1597
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 2: receiver in round one, that might be a guy to consider.

1598
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 4: A pitch sixty guy's down the line, like I was

1599
01:25:01,160 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 4: looking at Ricky Piersoll's and Piersol is a really sure

1600
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 4: handed but he's like the fifteenth receiver on the list, right,

1601
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 4: So you probably get a shot at him at sixty

1602
01:25:10,479 --> 01:25:14,280
Speaker 4: or maybe have a maybe. So yeah, there's some of

1603
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,840
Speaker 4: these guys in this draft class that are known for that,

1604
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 4: Ady Mitchell being one of the top ones, and Polk

1605
01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 4: is another one. So there you have it. That's and

1606
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 4: you're right. I agree with you. There's nothing more frustrating

1607
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 4: to have a guy running free and he stonehands it,

1608
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:29,760
Speaker 4: you know.

1609
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 2: So and Stefan Diggs catch rate went down precipitously last

1610
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:36,880
Speaker 2: year from where it had been the previous three years.

1611
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:40,880
Speaker 2: Maybe it was part of something that the Bills saw

1612
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 2: and they were able to stomach parting ways with him.

1613
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 2: We have to step aside here, but we'll have a

1614
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 2: chance for a call or two in our final segment

1615
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:53,240
Speaker 2: next here on an Obel Friday fan mail bag, answering

1616
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 2: your questions about the draft and the Bills picks and

1617
01:25:56,320 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 2: what might happen next here on One Bill's Life. All right,

1618
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 2: welcome back to One Bill's Live. One segment to go here.

1619
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 2: You're going to crack open the tweets sheet quickly to

1620
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 2: get some of the questions there. Alex asked, what would

1621
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 2: you like to see as a success What would you

1622
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 2: see as a successful draft for the Bills next week?

1623
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 2: What do you think, Steve.

1624
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 4: Uh Man, You gotta well come out with come out

1625
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:27,800
Speaker 4: with players at the right spot. I'd love to get

1626
01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 4: a quality defensive end or a couple of them, a

1627
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:39,799
Speaker 4: couple of wide receivers. INTERI your defensive lineman, defensive tackle.

1628
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:42,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I would say I'd be happy if they

1629
01:26:42,640 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 2: come out of the draft with two receivers, preferably one

1630
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 2: in their first two picks. And then you need defensive

1631
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:54,639
Speaker 2: line depth. You need safety depth, and you need corner depth.

1632
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 2: And then you want to get me a running back

1633
01:26:57,240 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 2: in the seventh round to be the third running back.

1634
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 2: Thank you very much much. That's a successful draft.

1635
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 4: Wide receiver, defensive tackle, edge rushers, as many of those

1636
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:06,680
Speaker 4: as you can get plus.

1637
01:27:08,040 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 3: A bonus pick.

1638
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you need depth on defense. You need linebacker depth,

1639
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 2: you need safety depth, you need corner depth, you need

1640
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:15,679
Speaker 2: d line depth. You need depth at all three levels

1641
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 2: of the defense. Don't kid yourself.

1642
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:20,960
Speaker 3: Two wide receivers, eight defenders. Let's go.

1643
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 2: Ed asks of all the Bills draft picks, how many

1644
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,320
Speaker 2: are going to be studs and how many might be questionable?

1645
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:30,880
Speaker 2: Jabbronis fifty fifty.

1646
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:32,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fifty to fifty.

1647
01:27:32,720 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 2: I mean they do their homework. They do their homework

1648
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:37,760
Speaker 2: to reduce that risk. But as we know, it's an

1649
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:41,400
Speaker 2: inexact science dominic asks. If Brandon Bean called you guys

1650
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 2: on draft day and said, hey, I'll let you choose

1651
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 2: move up, give our first round next year and grab

1652
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 2: a dunze, stay put, grab the best player available, or

1653
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:52,679
Speaker 2: move back, grab more draft picks and take the best

1654
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 2: player available. What would you choose? Well, you're asking us

1655
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:57,439
Speaker 2: to make that choice in a vacuum, and I don't

1656
01:27:57,439 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 2: think that's realistic. I'm not making that che dominic unless

1657
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 2: I know what's happened already in front of the bills,

1658
01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:06,720
Speaker 2: Like what happened in the first eight picks. Did the

1659
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 2: two of the top three receivers go already? Did only

1660
01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 2: one go? You know who moved up into the top ten.

1661
01:28:15,200 --> 01:28:16,599
Speaker 2: These decisions are not made.

1662
01:28:16,479 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 3: In all say this.

1663
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:20,320
Speaker 4: If it was, if it's like not giving up a

1664
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 4: future one, if it's only this one and next year's one,

1665
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 4: I would think about the adunesa thing. But I don't

1666
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 4: have a problem doing any of that's to staying put

1667
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:32,720
Speaker 4: in grabbing the best player either. And it depends on

1668
01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 4: how many more picks I gotta grab to move back.

1669
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 4: That's an unknown. So I'd be okay with any of

1670
01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:40,360
Speaker 4: this stuff. If and if you move back and grab

1671
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 4: more picks, it better be you know, I want a

1672
01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:43,880
Speaker 4: third rounder.

1673
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:45,720
Speaker 2: You got to know what the situation is before you

1674
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:47,600
Speaker 2: make a decision like that, and you got to the

1675
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:48,920
Speaker 2: specifics matter. Yeah.

1676
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:51,559
Speaker 4: The problem with this is that, as we all know,

1677
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 4: you're picking horses with consciousness conscience. You don't know how

1678
01:28:57,520 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 4: these guys are going to be when they get here.

1679
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:02,600
Speaker 4: They could they could look great, show up and be

1680
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 4: like you said, Jabroni's or you could they could just

1681
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:11,800
Speaker 4: be a throwaway pick and turn into you know, Troy Polamalu. Right,

1682
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 4: So it's hard to know because you pick these guys

1683
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:18,919
Speaker 4: and so much happens to these guys when they get drafted.

1684
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 3: It changes them.

1685
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:23,680
Speaker 2: Well yeah, and the money will change too. That's it

1686
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 2: for us this week. It's draft week. Next week we'll

1687
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 2: see it one on Monday.